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>>112857453it's purple
its pink
Lia joined Phase Connect on March 26, 2021
ion believe hershe helped recruit Hime and Eimi, also she helped with Lumi and Yuri.
its pink and puffy
>>112857550I thought she helped make joke questions for Hime with Sakana?
>>112857589she did. notice how she was very careful how she worded and answered the question>I have never gone to Sakana and said "this is my friend. hire them"
deku voice is now evolving into lia's disassociative anti identity
I THINK LIA SUCKS
i trust the oldfags with lia knowledge better than lia unironically. she has cte.
>>112857666she's mostly been saying stuff she's said before desu
Did the wu flu really break people that badly?
Sometimes when Lia gets real it's a bit heavy.
>>112857687Some people just couldn't handle the shut off
>>112857687I guess? I was a shut-in before, during, and after so nothing really changed for me.
>Holding back Lia's hair as she barfs in the toilet
cute
>>112857687In states that actually enforce the lockdown(Like Cali), yeah, it fucked with people really badly.
Gays out!
>>112857687i feel like i got robbed 4 years of my lifeim 21 but havent felt like ive madured to my age i feel like a mentally retarded 16-17 yo stillthat shit hit me too hardlost a bunch of friend and basically became a neet
>>112857687only if you needed to be around people to function/distract you from thinking
>>112857799this but i'm a year older and the lock down year rocked. free government money, no job, no worries, school ended months early. being paid to be a neet for a year fucked me up. how can you wage when neeting is so fun?
>>112857687In the sense of agoraphobia? Yeah, I could understand it too. I was a nurse so unfortunately I had to work in-person while others were doing work remotely but there were a few cases of pediatric psych cases where kids, we're talking one case even younger than 10, were getting suicidal or already making attempts because>no friends>don't want to do anything but be online>ignored online classwork and flunkedLia was pretty young when getting into vtubing, but I'm pretty sure she at least got to graduate high school normally before the coof ruined that for all the zoomers. She would probably fit into the second category where she just didn't want to interact with anyone and the social anxiety feelings got worse the longer she was isolated.
eimi...
This woman is a leaky bucket.
Eimi is crying and pissing and shitting and cumming right now
>>112857687nah i was already fucked before the flu it literally changed nothing in my life
Lia and Uruka have kissed eachother, just as friends tho.
>Lia goes into a shut in phase, becomes a successful Vtuber>I go into one, all I do is finally go to college and maintain a good GPAI feel like a loser desu
I once had a dream that Lia got more than cancelled. it was in the future and phase was bigger than hololive, Lia got arrested for killing 3 teenage cosplay girls and carving LIA into their foreheads
>>112858010The Notorious LIA Serial Killer
>>112858009>shut in phase>collegelarper
cute introspective gassy brat lia....
despite what xitter and the catalog say phase connect has a pretty solid reputation. I like the way things are going and I like phase connect
>>112858062
>>112858036>LarperI dropped out of highschool the week it was legal for me to do so and did nothing for 8 years, it took a lot to go outside and then finally go to college. And I still don't really do anything with people, it is just wake up, gym, go to class, come back, sleep, wake up, ect. I wish I did but making friends is hard.
Uruka was watching Lia before starting stream
>>112858036online college, grandpa
Blurredhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ilqYQbudjA
I think Lia really understands what it is to be an idol. Is she the only western chuuba to understand this?
>>112858100Lia just named dropped her
>>112858097oh someone already did it for me, my incredible editing skills have gone to waste...I should not have brought it up back there that was a mistake
Lia says Sakana was in a heated rivalry relationship with another CEO of a vtuber agency
>>112858184it was the idol corp CEO. forbidden chinese jewish romance....
>>112858206That was a good read
ANYC will be my forever number 1. a Teen Idol Sensation was born
>she doesnt remember Uruka was in the ANYC concertshe has alzheimers in her mid 20s genuinely concerned
sad bear emoji
I like how this model gives her a slight kitty :3 sometimes
that's the same trip Pippa got her drunk and sat on her face give her a break man
>>112857666 (me)bump
>>112858361it's super bouncy, I like it
I love her teef sm
It's ok, Lia. I remember everything about your career so you don't have to.
organized gens are soulless gens
I love how she can look cute and smug, and also like a dork, at the same time
>>112858466they lack the character development arc
>>112858466Hyperorganization does tend to suck the natural emergence out of things but saga is pretty good. They definitely feel very different than origins though.
>>112858538Saga came is as polished products (save for Anya who I have not really been impressed with). Most of them have been vtubing for 4+ years
she really wanted to be a vtuber huh
>>112858588since Lia was a little Lia, she wished to be an anime girl
Lia HATES Phase Weekly
it just shows how privileged new fans are "why do you hate phase weekly it is just reacting to clips?"nigga there were no phase clippers for a long time so the talents had to clip each othernow you just say "sakana" and 10 clips appear
Lia was unfit to uphold the mantle of mammaries
Lia is too bratty to have boobs desu
>>112858671Lia's autoandrophilia really got Ashelia good.
Lia says omega strikers is one of her favorite collabs ever
Lia says her most fun Phase collabs she has done is Omega Strikers with Airi and Remi
I thought Yuri also played Omega Strikers with Lia
>>112858720Lia played another round with Hime and Yuri.
proud Rinmama
>>112858737Rinmama treats her Lia pretty well
teen idol sensation is no longer a teen
>>112858709But Wemi, that is your target audiance?
>>112858762Lia is the eternal youth of Phase Connect
>>112858767there was unironically 1 angry guy in pcg at that rant while everybody else was laughing
why does she think you can't be a fujo with big tits i don't get it
>>112858785Lia doesn't have big boob girl energy, cmon
>>112858793I don't know what that means
>>112858785She just doesnt feel like her personality matched with the sexiness of Ashelia, that's it
Q T
>>112858801i'm afraid this sort of thing requires esoteric knowledge it seems you do not possess
Liatnam...
yeah...
It's ogey Lia
>>112858571Sinon is pretty green, and it's no coincidence that she happens to be the only interesting one. The other ones could have been any gen from any small corpo ever.
Newfag here, what moment is she talking about?
erm! moving on!
Yeah...it's okay Lia we get it. The fact she views it that way means a lot, desu
>>112858862>The other ones could have been any gen from any small corpo ever.anon....
>>112858876Yes I know, and that's kind of my point.
>>112858875I missed it, what did she say about it?
>>112858903rewind
>>112858915nta but rewind has been disabled since she started a new vod
>>112858915This stream doesn't have rewind
Is she actually smart and reasonable?
>>112858915>rewind disabledwhat the scallop!?
Did she really think she was getting groomed or did the fear of losing hundreds of viewers fuck her memory of what happened
>>112858875bro, i still remember her tweet, the only good thing that came out of that was this thread
>>112858939she's just a lil paranoid rn
gen2 went through it just like gen1i'm sorry for all my half ironic shitting on hime way back in the day I didn't mean it
>>112858903She said it's her biggest regret by far and if she could she would go back in time and bludgeon herself
>>112858947This thread didn't come out of Lietnam.
>Phaseworld amusement park not happening anytime soon
>>112858864It doesn't matter. It's way in the past.>>112858942At that time, she was still inexperienced and didn't consider optics. For better or worse, she learned from it, and now look at how far she has come.
>>112858962Oh I can see why she see's it like that, it was one of the dumbest things she has done for sure. >>112858942I don't know what groom even means anymore but there definitely was someone using influence to try to get what they wanted.
Muumi was like a star that supernovas. they burn bright and fast. she saved the company then 4 managers took on her workload
>>112858942I have always thought it was just a stupid and autistic moment from her and not malicious like so many paint it to be. Not speaking as some simp or even just as her fan, but I do think it was Lia being Lia and not realizing the situation.
>>112858956they had their own struggles and not to devalue. but they have never known a day of Phase without Muumi and managers. nothing compares.
>>112858968wait what, im fucking larping?, i thought this came out for the level of anti in the mother land from that incident
>>112859038Lietnam was in January. This thread started in July, after the Pippa-Coomalot incident and the constant cuckposting from that.
>>112859038no pcg in general anti'd all the girls and it sucked for everybody
>>112859017You are correct. People making it out to be anything worse or more malicious are either anti-ing or delusional.
Divegrass is kino, the likers were right agane
>>112859017of course it wasn't malicious, she just didn't think things through it happens
>>112859106divegrass mogs real soccer desu
>>112859038this thread was LITERALLY created for divegrass.t. the original original baker who wanted Lia to have a divegrass team and hoped someone would step up and caretake and give the players box heads (thank you manesan for stepping up and being the best)
>>112859017Lia wasn't being malicious, the other "person" was
she also paid like 15 dollars a month for 3 years for a game she didn't play
>>112859102>>112859109I'm just relieved people feel the same because it feels like everywhere I go people think she was being malicious to her fans.
>>112859132this guy gets it
>>112859038>>112859086>>112859132thank you guys, what i clearly remember from that day was that false flag post saying that this thread was created by a woman and everyone was saying we were a bunch of femanon
I LOVE LIA
>>112859187yes someone did make that post and it nearly stopped this thread from taking off
>>112859157don't bother with the opinions of retards who twist things to stir shit I never actually watched that donothon my knowledge comes from browsing the archive and it's pretty easy to tell what was hapening
>Lia has friendsWhere do these type of people even meet?
>>112859222conventions probably, maybe school
the ff14 cycle of violence is brutalhow could the japanese do this
>>112859243>maybe schoolBut like how? Aren't classes and such just RNG who you are near? Maybe clubs?
>>112859222danganronpa rp on tumblr
She had so many opportunities to avoid her video game version of a drug addiction...
>>112859145i remember said person was about to debut too, i dont know if he got to, but im glad Lia dropped the GFE bullshit completly cuz of it
>>112859243>>112859259the girl Lia says friend in most old stories and half current one refers to one girl she's know forever since like middle school >>112859267 . she's not an internet personality so she keeps her details vauge because she's a good friend.
>>112859259well maybe she lucked out I had 2 crazy fujos with big tits in class at high school who did cosplay and we kinda hit it off, and through cosplay and cons they met more of their kindit's possible
this is the EXACT moment I knew XIV was a massive problem
>>112859316she can control herself now but it was very dire
>>112859316how much worse could that be
>what's the next step for phase connect to grow>not talking about final fantasykek
it's sad that we'll never see her live reactions to the story probably not possible anyway considering she just binged through it anyway, it would have been worse than 100line arc
>>112859423Did she actually stream her 100 line reactions blind? Did she do all of the endings?
>>112859441well not all of the endings but it was blind yes
>>112859423Yeah...I really wish we could get it. Even with the EC MSQ coming she said she won't stream it. However, IIRC, she did mention she had an idea for us to experience her reactions to it a past FF stream. I'm curious what that means.
>>112859441not all the endings, but we had a couple of weeks with daily 10 hourish streams
Phase Wars confirmed
>>112859501but except Lia and Eimi Isami wrestling is a giant pool of pudding
>>112859441yes she did, just look at her channel
>>112859423Too much shit would've been spoiled
>>112859530Two streams unwatched? Are you even a real Liker?
>>112859545the redline doesn't show up sometimes youtube forgets i'm not a fraud i swear
>>112859463well... we could ask her I guess hildi streams were fun I don't see why going through the main story wouldn't
Ambitious Lia.
>>112859580her and origins have been on a generational run as people who started out in the small corpo slums
>>112859545i can testify for that anon that the fuck ass youtube red line does not show sometimes even if you watched it already
>>112859597Lias membership stream chat for digital circus watchalong moved faster than early ashelia chats. they are playing on completely different fields. it's beautiful
this is getting sappy I'm starting to think and reflect and now there's rain in my room
Lia thinks miss Pipkin Pippa deserves 1 million youtube subs
SING BITCH, SING!!!!!
>woman hating yaoithat's my favorite genre
as things stand she is bound to make a ffxiv song cover at one point and it's probably going to be bee my honey
smug brat Lia is best Lia
Fun fact>Lia has been in 11 3D concerts in 2 years>she has released 5 covers on her channel in 5 years
RATE THE A CUP ANGELRATE THE OOPSRATE THE QUESTIONSRATE THE STREAM
did she say she's killing the archive of this one as well sry I kinda zoned out
>>112859768I prefer when she's the physical embodiment of "erm"
>>112859803my little sister has memory problems/10i love her so much and am so proud of her!
No gift cards, Lia scammed us
>>112859846I think she said they will be handed out on the discord
>>112859803good lore stream for newfriends like me though I already knew a bunch of stuff just by keeping up with her for like 8 months
>>112859810the second stream is there, but the first part is deleted, i dont think the first part should be archive if she doesn´t want to, even if nothing was shown
>>112859803i hope she does a part 2 she was just scratching the surface. she knows where the bodies are burried
>>112859803Lia/10newfags freaking it/10it felt like she answered the same question 3 times but she solidified a lot of stories she's told in small bits and pieces over the years. to hear a lot of that stuff you'd have to do lots of reps so it's pretty good newfag education I suppose/10it was a nice stream, Lia has a lot to be proud of looking back on because she's a good girl/10
>>112859846wtf you're right I completely forgot about that
this means she will have to do another one to hand out the gift cards
>>112859884xanto already uploaded it blurred so that ship has sailed she could just cut out the last 2 minutes or so it's no biggie
Lia menhera status?
>>112859812it is a very good expression that fits her so well. she like almost had this face before, but this one changes it just a little and it's dimes
>>112859862the discord regulars will snatch them all up then anyway
new outfit feels like she has had it forever. perfect.
>>112859935the PCD has like 100k members that place is rough I wouldn't get your hopes up for the mr beast gift card give away
>>112859935fine by make sure they go to people who will buy lia merch and not be whores
>>112859959I wasn't going to anyway I don't even write in chat because I'm scared of being perceived by Lia
People who hate her new outfit are just wrong, I'm sorry. Spending this whole stream with it, it's actually really cute and solid! I think because we only got 30min with it, it didn't get to fully set in. But now, I love it a lot.
they should not do a Phase Con 2 until at least 2028, if they ever even do it again.Can always do what the big indies are doing: concerts ay a venue for a night. That has to be 10x cheaper than running a convention.
I think this is the first time she's refers to Liatnam, but i kinda remember she saying something about almost actually killing herself about it some time ago
>>112859998She and a few other talents said every two years, so yeah.
>>112859987I don't really like the outfit but I do like the face
>>112859987I didn't really see it getting hate, just some doubt. I was kinda doubting it'd have staying power until today. I couldn't picture Lia wanting to run around in her panties, but from her normal angles it's super nice and not lewd at all
>>112859987>People who hate her new outfit are just wrongwho tf hates her outfit? literal gay men? It's great.+ the expressions are perfect
>>112860028>>112860027I probably just saw some anti posts, but I saw a weird amount of people complaining about it just being bad or not fitting her at all.
>>112859987I think it has too much stuff going on, but when it's just a big Lia face like that then it's great
>>112859779Lia is built different, in a good way.
>>112859987the only thing remotely like hate is the people that said she is ripping off shiina
new outfit already clears the tenshi outfit.>>112860079>too much stuffi disagree. any of the "stuff" us just accessory that can be toggled off. the outfit itself is minimal clothing it is sex
guysGUYSimagine a bulge in Lias panties
>>112860098that's just what I'm saying, when it's all toggled off then it's great
>>112860106dios santo, im drooling
>>112858097>BLURREDfuck you ngger w all know how she looks like and our farms friends got it already
>>112859623
>>112860098Tenshi might be my least fav
SHES NOT GOING TO FUCK U WHITE KNIGHT YOURE LIKE THE URUKAFAG
Lia ended the stream and started anting herself again....
>>112860106How big is she
>>112860162same, but its not bad it has grown on me it took a few months. think a reason why i like the gothic jellfyfish and the sins outfit is probably because she softened the look away from energy pink to baby blue already, so then going grey and purple next was not as big of a jumpshe has 4 good outfits.this sin outfit took all of 3 minutes and it's so lia
Do people like Lia actually go to college anime clubs and the like? How does meeting someone at a convention even work?
>>112860192futa experts are torn between a tiny pathetic little cock that leaks a lot and a fair sturdy average cock that she acts like is 12 inchs long
>>112860192bigger than 5.5
>>112860192https://files.catbox.moe/5pcgvo.jpg
>>112860210>Do people like Lia actually go to college anime clubs and the like?Yes. When I used to run my college anime club there were plenty of girls like Lia there. It's a mixed bag but you're very likely to find likeminded people in this space.Although, this was like a decade ago, don't know how different the modern era is.
>>112860210there are no clubs in school silly people just go homeyou stand in line for a panel and talk to the person in front/behind you I am speaking from experience btw yesterday I was on a con in Poznań and I met a Geralt cosplayer in a line and we spent the next 7 hours together and we drank some beers and had a good time
>>112860239Mine has a Discord I am thinking of trying to get a feel for them, I guess what's the worst that could happen?
>>112860236Perfect
>>112860277Can't hurt to try. Just don't be too weird and you'll be alright. Most people just want to find friends with similar interests that they can chat with.
>>112860191Where is this?
>>112860272based polebro
>>112860304pre chat
SCAMMED
https://x.com/rinkouashelia/status/2068584219845284157
DO NOT REEDEEM THE GIFT CARD SAAR
>>112860177?
>>112860347>>112860340Silly vtuber
>>112860277>>112860294you can be weird too if your weird looks like the Lia kind of weird and not a chud who brings up FBI crime statisticspeople like that
>>112860160>our farms friendsyeah, no, like hell no
>>112860379Yeah, but you can't start off like that usually. You have to ease your way into it. Otherwise you risk scaring them away, especially now with how many normal people are into anime and games.
>>112860385just ignore the bait brodon't think xantho even comes here so who tf is he even talking to
step by step social interaction tutorial brought to you by Lia from Phase Connect (the thread)
are we being raided?
>>112860420written by a guy who hasn't had a real friend in 5 years and has no social media or discord presence no lessthe best kind of advice
I think if Lia accidentally brapped on stream itd be her biggest controversy cuz a couple Likers would off themselves from shock of finding out she farts with that ass or jealousy of her gaming chair
Sorry, I might be a chud in this thread but outside of vtuber watching I have friends that I love and care for and am genuinely outgoing. I've only been pretending to be a chud.
>>112860503this minus the outgoing part my friends drag me places and im actually a chud
>>112860308also umm he eventually brought his own friends and they were all women and we played board games together and you know how women do the thing where they hug the person they like as a goodbye?I hugged 5 women that day...
>>112859803I want a part 2 it was just getting good she was saying good stuff
>>112860503>>112860517fakecels sm h
I am profoundly mentally ill.
at the end of the day I think we all agree that Eimi Isami and Lia should wrestle in a big tub of banana pudding while Pippa commentates like Joe Rogan
>if Sakana let the money win and sold, I am quitting on the spot. I'm not working for anybody in Phase that is himChat: what if a talent bought it? like Dizyy>Nope. I don't think any of the talents are qualified to run an agency like this. I has to be the set up it is currently at anything else and it's over.
>>112860272My school has active clubs for some niche stuff, but it is a state university so it might just have more stuff. >>112860294>>112860379>>112860401I am able to act normal and I do have friends but they have been my friends for a very long time. I have trouble making NEW friends. I can get along with people fine but that milestone from acquaintance to friend is pretty hard for me.
>>112860544I bet you had a good time with that stream mr
>>112860518I hope you did so with disdain
i would not be able to fake being outgoing I am geniuenly that socially inept that I consider taking with someone for longer than 5 minutes as a good workout of my social skills
>>112860602I like talking to people but it does get very draining fast
I can larp as a regular person for like 5 hours as long as I dont drink. if I drink it's over im a chud
>>112860578go to where your friends go and you will meet more friends it's simpleyou're only fucked if you no longer have any friends left like me, then it's over
>>112860646I go to school in a different city than where my friends live.
I feel like I am owed a proper anniversary stream with a scrapbook and giftcards and woman tears and sex and eimi ismai sitting on my face after she eats egg salad
>>112860592it reminded me of high school, girls would greet everyone with hugs... they were warm...
one of my friends jerked me off in highschool at a sleep over it was pretty cool. we never spoke about it again tho. it was a heat of the moment thing. id have jerked him off if he asked
>>112860673tsfmt especially the last part
>>112860693sounds gay
what if she started a handcam one day and she forgets to clear her piss bottles off the desk
do you think she uses a funnel or is she skilled enough to fill them without
>>112860781She's an MMO raider, she has to have the skill to do stuff like that
based on fps games I dont trust girls to aim
she probably makes a mess on her chair and under her desk every time
>>112860822let me clean it up PLEASE let me be your piss rag miss Lia im begging
>>112860579I have a complex relationship with a lot of the topics she addressed. I'll leave it at I'm happy she persevered and made it to the position she is in. Her agoraphobia arc during the pre-Liatnam days was a very intense period of Lia history and having her recap the entirety of it was satisfying to hear. I'm not going to let my negative thought loops dominate this moment of total Lia victory.
this is your proof that there is more than one piss guy here okay iam not schizophrenic and I am not talking to myself
>>112860856>this moment of total Lia victory.it is, her attitude recapping stuff that was wonderful. proud of her
melatonin is kicking in nini
I wish Lia would play 999
nini
I cant believe she browses green reddit! this bitch is crazy?
Lia baby