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The commentator said "Fuck new jersey" or something like that
>>112858759Debi
A story in 1 picture
>>112858676suddenly we dont care about him after we leeched on him during the dodgers collab.
>>112858815Compile all the deleteds from the replies
>>112858454>Nijigirls are better at games than Hologirlssweet Jesas no wonder holos HAVE to do the idol stuff as well
Lazy baker.
>>112858843They get raped more easily, too (thanks to Riku and the Nijistaff for helping Mr. Yab)
kronii likes white guys
ain't no way this >>112857826 is true, someone fact check this shit.
>>112858920You're not a kronie
>>112858841I was mainly laughing at the hilarity of a schizo laughing at another anon getting deleted just as he gets deleted
>>112858820that dodgers collab brought in more holoantis
>>112858928>blah blah my small dog phasetroon big after vwhorejo niji diedits all so tiresome
>>112858928>>112533687
3-0DORRRYAAAAAAAAA
what did saba do for her birthday
Is Pekora drinking from a sippycup?
>>112858759GOOOOOALLLLLL
>>112859044Lose to the Netherlands
>>112859044beep...beep...beep...
>>112859044She wasn't in a very celebratory mood, so she just did the usual.
>>112859044>>112859088>>112859082samefag
>>112858920The only guy she ever fucked was Korean
>>112859117*samekofag
boomers say shut the fuck up
>Schizo gets banned>thread is usable againit really was all one guy
>Sad none of their other group mates share in their enthusiasm.How about you go fuck yourself or swing from a bridge with the duboyz.
>>112859148I want to buy a tablet to watch vtubers on but they’re all terrible or iPads. Maybe an old iPad mini would work but I bet Neal has jeeted YouTube up to the point it won’t run on one.
I'm such a piece of shit. Otsuka that single mom VTuber was doing a father's day karaoke and my first thought wasn't>That's sweetBut >Wait, what father?
>>112859173they're still here though. they're just busy watching divegrass to shitpost >>112859044
>>112859179Baetyan…
>>112859179They come up with every possible and imaginable excuse not to watch a stream and buy merch
>>112859212Geg
>>112859212You let the larp consume you.
>>112859216thats a different schizo from the one that was samefagging for the past 6 hours
>>112859216Anon... Everybody makes fun of Saba.
>If Kiara does get to make a watchalong it will be against Argentina and the power of friendship (for Messi)
>>112859173we're still its just Hololive is so dead right now there ain't shit to talk about
>>112859286I mean, Mori is still live
>>112859277if kiara doesnt get 60k like pekora then we can bully her
Another beautiful goal
What a header by Ueda wtf. Pekovivi celebrating
so uhhh peko gold when its not even peak JST hours?
there's no pride in beating a shit team
>>112859357niji has an upcoming 3d stream
>>112859313
>>112859212>Otsuka raided Mori and Mori wished her happy Father's dayI blame you manifesting this kek
>ham making new twitch emotes rrats?
>>112859469Grems?
>>112859469its over
>>112859212qrd?
>>112859424>Honma HimawariWHOOOOOOOOOO
>>112859469Nothingburger. I'll worry if she suddenly resumes streaming as Ham
>>112859313Trans flag
Please tell me you're not graduationbegging fucking GIGI.
>>112859469https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2wkGUlldQAshe made the emotes for this dude
>>112859495The girl I always confuse for the bully panda.
>>112859452ERB is 0/10 unicorn the others are 10/10
>>112859469>rrats?No, she's a hamster
>>112859531>>112859537bot replies
>>112859495luna bully!
Zeta called Vivi?
Nippon are too strong
Start watching football fags if you want to fuck hot japanese vtubers.
Vivi will never fuck you
>Mori streaming >Not a single pip about it
Vivi will fuck me
>>112859469nothingburger, gigi is going nowhere
>>112859596>Start watching football fags if you want to fuck hot japanese vtubers.They're just bandwagoners who don't care outside of the context of the WC tho....
Vivi will fuck Pekora
Miko will fuck Pekora
>>112859634Expecting liveposting on the anti thread
>>112859205jailbreak it
>pekora and vivi lusting over japanese playersAre we being cucked...
>>112859634There’s no liveposting here
>>112859663Vivi isn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvzAVIg5Vp0&t=1174s>says she's ripping off Hololive>starts quoting Mori's song>spider lillies in hair is a visual element from Off With Their Heads MV Mori>calls herself a envious, seething femanon (the outfit rally had some sin theme to it, I think?)
>>112859715Only you
>>112859722>>112859688>the only way to post about a stream is liveposting
>>112859500>me if male collab LoL happens
>>112859747the less a stream is posted about here the better, if you want posts about streams you know where to go
>>112859728She looks like Moris kid sister
>>112859747Oh then you're just blind
Riona caught a bit of funnel
>3 niji girls> 1 game character>bibooUh oh
>>112859634I think the deadbeat only posts on here's global
>>112859469Maybe she'll do what Dottovu did a while ago
>>112859804nice
>>112859843Do something boaring?
>>112859823huh no way moa will defect to nijisanji
>>112859823One day this married Japanese woman will suddenly show up at Biboo's house and just kidnap her
>>112859715Pekora is just another comedian for me
>>112859715don't care they deserved it
>>112859823People then say hololive has absolute grip of JP market
>>112859823Bijou loses her only female audience to jp livers pottery
WE support Austria too, right?
>Mori sees a woman talking about wanting to receive tributes>starts laughing uncontrollably
>>112859823wait are dugurls of nijisanji popular in japan?
I don’t like sports and am dismayed to see sports fandom in hololive
>>112859930>gets turned into a horse shortly after
EMPEROR GOLD DORRYAAAAAA
>>112859930Do you think Mori has ever seen that one screen cap of that guy sending Towa a cum tribute and asking him to delete it?
>>112859974more likely that she saw her fair share on the DDK DMs
>>112859728I'm not watching your phaseshitter.
>be Holochuuba>be selected among thousands and thousands of applications>be elevated from poverty level to "I-can-buy-expensive-random-shit/go-to-any-holiday-I-want" >gets tonnes of loyal fans, whom would spend thousands of dollars for you>have lots of friends in your company that strives for the same goal, never lonely>STILL keep your previous identity and sowing (even if miniscule) doubt in your new fanbase on your longevity I will never understand. Some aren't even double dipping. Just doing it for the love for the game.
>>112860107Showing loyalty to your OG fans
>>112860107>be holo>get more talent freedom than niji, phase and lig.Ftfy
>>112860107ah yes, bet your life on the fate of your company
>>112859148I like how no one knows what the leader of a gen is or what it means.
>>112860107sounds like true talent freedom
>>112860170It means...the person who goes on the middle of the promo art at debut. That's about it
randon stole saturday from nimi
>>112860135Should've pushed them to the other side in one go, and not fence sit in the first place >>112860157The company that has given you everything? Not to advocate being subservient to the company, but signaling your backup plan right from the start?
>>112860153Are only holos allowed to do that?
boooooo RM timeloop sucks boooooo
>>112860182I think cover uses it to train up a less experience member(bae ririka) or to give someone with experience to help the others(Shiori Riona)
>>112860253member with the least experience in council was sana though?
>>112860271Sana was Omega trying to make Ina 2.
>>112860290Omega was the blue homo nigga
im thinking she won
Kiara watchalong doko?
>>112860107grifting ain't easy
i am thinking nimi sucks
>>112860107Why would you delete your RM, like, why woukd you delete your personal account under any jobThe only one in Holo who has done it is Bae for...reasons. It's awfully performative.
>>112860107>>112860153>>112860157>>112860204I feel like most of the EN girls ramped up their own RM stuff is because the EN managment actually doesnt know how to tap-in into the market so their only option is to collab with outside creators to keep up with information needed but they cant just take a hololive girl and make them collab with someone like shylily or shondo and not get into trouble later so they are letting the girls figure it out so that they can later do their own checks and gather more intel
>>112860593Yep. If only they let EN members collab with indies frequently. EN would be in much better place
>>112860614Not collab with indies but get to know more how the streaming environment is currently and what they can do to further increase their reach
Haven't been here since half the jp niggers graduating. Any THD news since then?
>>112860403what did she win
>>112860651randon cock
>>112860614That ship sailed after the embarrassing meltdown that was the 2024 VTuber AwardsBe glad the Holo girls are on SPEAKING TERMS with two or three liggers.
>>112860107It's never a bad idea to have a backup plan no matter how much /#/ and the old left behind culture of /hlgg/ say about it. If it was you, you would all do the same and don't even try to front about it and say some MUH LOYALTY TO MUH COVER bullshit about how it wouldn't be you doing that too. It's amazing how these retarded stupud fucking borderline braindead internet WOMEN with their woman moments understand perfectly well that the hololive gig is NOT a guaranteed forever thing more than you bunch of fucking niggers that act high and mighty. No one is more loyal to Cover than YOU fucking retards blindly worshipping them just because they give you ammo to shit on every other vtuber you don't like. The real world is not /vt/, it's not /#/ either. A backup plan is perfectly fine to have for everyone else but not if you're in hololive? suck my ballsack you fucking moron.
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>>112860573Biboo also deleted hers iirc
>>112860614after ironleech threw everyone under the bus to score some normies point? lol
>>112860107who?
>>112860666S.....
>>112860675nah its still there
>>112860204>The company that has given you everythinglmao funny
>>112860675biboo only gives a shit about hololive, she cares more about her JP senpai than some nobody outside the holobox
>>112860675You can still search her on YouTube and Twitter.No one deletes their RM because there is no reason to, if one day you wanna shove a dildo on your pussy and upload a pic, there is your RM (love you Matsuri)
>>112860593>>112860614You're hijacking my post, retard. Outside of two people (who have VERY differing circumstances to each other, let alone to the others), the others don't even use their RM to do anything; no promoting shit or no side hustle, nada. It's just basically a subaccount with the added annoyance of doubt for first timers, that's all. Which again I will never understand
>>112860730>For first timersFirst timers don't even know what RM is, the only way you can get "worried" is if you're a retard who fell for graduationbegging
stop baiting donie
>>112860730I mean the one that spurred the current RM posting hasnt even used her account
>>112860730Mori Kiara Kronii Raora Nerissa ERB have active RMThese people have shown activity in last 30 days or so
Shorter stream. Looking forward to longer streams soon. Maybe some Biboo ARMA III stream or somethingFinal Verdict: NATTY!
>>112860763Ina?
>>112860699W......
>>112860614nice try leech fantome when your idol group is a total flop
>>112860675She literally created it to join hololive
>>112860727>YouTubeI did, all there is are clips or archive videos uploaded by other people. I didn't bother checking Twitch though
>>112860783No clue about her RM but she does commission and stuff This is based on twitter post that i have seen.
>>112860763And outside of 3 maybe 4 all of them don't run a side hustle hence my annoyance on that fag who thought "they are using their RMs to increase their popularity" or whatever ligger bullshit their spewing. Most of them are just tweeting pleasantries or random shit which is not different to their mains , which again begs the question; why? If I have to guess, it's basically women nature.
>>112860814Grem...
>>112860824Mori - involved with indiesKiara - Involved with indiesKronii - involved with sana? thats all i know about herNerissa - pfftERB - pfft part 2Raora - only through art but involved with indies
>>112860814>ERB>GFEohhh boy we really had no idea what was about to hit us back then huh
>>112860829>None>0That doesn't look like a grem
>>112860849What's your point exactly?
>>112860864that looks exactly like a grem.............................
>>112860866my point is them doing rm stuff is just to keep in touch with people outside of hololive to gather information thats all. They arent going to leave holoEN and go all in on indie shit like how others did they are just trying to figure out shit because EN managment is dogshit
>>112860880>>112859452
nutted on
How did Vivi do it?
>>112860909everyone is a grem................
>>112859863Buying modded ROMs is hilarious.
>>112860912i was scrolled through and was confused why there was no vtubers on screeni guess they are hosting the tournament on ther channel and doing a watch along at the same time
>>112860912NATTY
>>112860573I'm willing to bet you wouldn't even be able to name the roommates of Pekora, Miko, Marine, Suisei etc. Meanwhile every ENshart with a 6k ccv average spends their days thinking of how to leverage their holo clout to boost their rm activities.
>>112860912will emperor able to hold his gold against the luna bully?
>>11286061480% of indies are trash. Why would you want them to pollute the garden even more?
Not bad Hal-san
anyone know how much cover has spent on ads, raora has over 28k subs this month and still gaining
>>112860990idk 300 400 dollarsits not a video ad but a side bar ad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxo5jkuT4ps
>>112860950Suisei RM is SuiseiHop eat this Nijicuck
Football chads can't stop winning.
>>112860814who is your oshi?
>>112861011that seems really cheap for that many subs, why don't they use it on more members
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azxyUy7t_gwregloss in london?
Mori and Shiori knew each other before Advent. I don't know if it was through Ame with Myth, if Mori was fan of her rm before that, or if it was something else even, but they knew each other.
>>112860829>>112860880>>112860926Idiota.
>>112861048Lol cover supporting the girls with subs and shit. Are you nuts?
>>112861047Ina.Mumei when she was in Holo.
>>112859313Actually didnt complete mine before, huh
>>112860857>we
>>112861091yes, WE
Jimmy killing billions!
>>112861055what REGLOSS IN RANDON? YABADABADOOOOOO
>>112860885>They arent going to leave holoEN and go all in on indie shit>them doing rm stuff is just to keep in touch with people outside of hololive to gather information thats allThe only reason there wasn't a bigger exodus since Faumei graduated is because the indie meta died after Vshojo's Vtuber Retirement Home caught fire and Nimi kicked off the trend of vtubers declaring their secret husbands and mostly because the vtuber formerly known as Senzawa was their ace and she's on extended tummy hort R&R now with no signs of returning like the avatar in their time of need. Promyth is the most affected by this because they're trapped in holoEN with no way to incline and only a downgrade by going full indie. It's almost identical to and even related to, the programmer job market circa 2022 to now.>all the corpos are drooling to snatch people up with no clear path to profitability or business plan>money is being thrown at metaverse shite because we're hot off COVID and actually everything in paper shuffling work is different now>yeah, fuck the office nobody has to come in. Go ahead and work from the Bahamas we don't care as long as you do your workNow there's a recession on and Cover doesn't have interest free loans to burn on new ideas in dead markets. No new vtubing corpos are cropping up because the market is fucking a dead end.Streamers and egirls can make a decent living just by being slightly appealing but nobody is seeking out idol-pilled vtubers out of nowhere and there's a lot more competition once you go full fleshtuber. Doing roommate shit keeps their backup plan options open and cuts out the middleman from their profits in the near term because this is all a heartless business at the end of the day.
>>112859452>>112860814>>112861087ERB and Raora are held back by weird rigging imho. Raora has the same head problem Nerissa has, where she turns her head you realize how weird it is. ERB is just stiffly rigged, and it's even worse in her Yukata. She should be full on 3d.
I shitposted so much here and in /sp/ a mere hour before the match under 23°C and I fell asleep, not even hearing the 9 alarms I had prepared to wake up at 05:25. I want to kms so hard you have no idea.
>>112860978They are not trash though. Kiara have friends that she can collab that are hololive like.
ok, nice, let's click it
SASUGA PEKO VIVI
>>112861104Hot damn!I didn't know Hajime had that sexy dawg in her.
>>112861117Stop thinking about his dick
>>112861142ERB is also held back by being a homo collaborator. Raora is held back by her ESL accent.
>>112859469They're not twitch emotes, they're discord emotes
>>112861202I don't give a damn about Kiara or who her RM collabs with. Just don't bring that crap to Holo.
if she aint purple she trash
>>112861261Wrong on both. ERB is held back because although she's supposed to be a "main" singer she doesn't even release originals or covers for months. Streamer/entertainer wise she's plain bad. As for Raora she messed up hard with time zones. She built her fanbase during JP hours and then when she realized that this wasn't good enough she was all over the place trying to catch a bigger audience and especially NA fans. That backfired and she went back to the OG slot while having lost a portion of her viewers. Also she didn't play to her strengths completely and was fomoing with random games instead of focusing more on drawing streams and other stuff she's good at.
Mira LLD today
Made this work with Twitch so it's more fair to ERB
>>112861300Fucking finally they started to set up frames in advance.
>>112861214https://x.com/i/status/2068577307636507107HOLY CUTE!!
>>112861261>Raora is held back by her ESL accent.That's actually a buff. People love her accent.
>>112861267 (me) I took a look at the server, which is basically for emotes only, and my guess is she got extra emote slots (the server has 9 boosts, you need 7 for the next upgrade so it might have been recent) and decided to make some moreAlso funnily enough that was the first time since she graduated that she talked in that server
>>112861299I wouldn't have watched ERB even if she released orisong/covers or was a good entertainer.
>>112861261Raora is held back by her voice, its a love it or hate it sort of deal
>>112861354So it's not for her twitch then?
is it true that kanata is now freeloading at kson place?
>>112861368>>112861087do children post here this handwriting is awful
>>112861487brother try writing with your mouse, Im not fixing my shit
>>112861299>>112861261ERB had found a good niche by being the one singer who did karaoke of western songs, often rebroadcasting them.But desu I don't fully blame her for the music situation (I still blame her) because it's clear something is wrong in holoen about this. Not a phase being stuck until Mumei called her friends, Full Color being lost, Nerissa's Rabbit Hole was 100% supposed to be released last year and Oyomeholic was this year's valentine song, ERB's Yona Yona dance too was clearly stalled considered it came almost a year after Ao left.Gen songs seem to be a schedule so they come out regularly, otherwise there are a lot of misses.
>>112861502atleast post it you frog faggot
>>112861329cheering for a black guy btw
>>112861543HOLY TIGHT PUSSY
>>112861502Smh just a photo
>>112861214disgusting whores
>>112860990huh, If they decided to buy ads for Biboo she might reach 1m before holloween
>>112861214Lord please let a. Raora be in holo in 2030 b. Italy qualify for the world cup in 2030 c. Me still be alive in 2030
>>112859313Mid gen.
>>112861607hatred for the gen so strong you somehow think raora is the best one
>>112861620Raora is the best one unless you are a twitter lesbian.
>>112860107Let’s look at the people who “showed their commitment” by shuttering their old accounts completely when they got in>GuraUhhhhhhhhhh>AmeUhhhhhhhhhhh>Mumei Uhhhhhhhhhhh>FaunaUhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhMeanwhile Le evil Mori is looking like the rock upon the eternal shore
>>112861642Raora is the best one if you dont watch streams
>>112861214I'm so tired of this forced ahh ship. This is AoMarine all over again.
>>112861691every ship has to be forced with pekora, if you don't force her to hangout with you she'll never agree
>>112861499ERB's constant Rebroadcasts were another factor that alienated her audience.
>>112861691Is it a ship if they're thirsting after soccer players
>>112861642>>112861607>Raora is the best one
>>112861737cheering on good players in a game doesn't mean you're thirsting over them
>>112861708Do your reps ENshart, she never felt embarrassed near ASSKi, skill issue simple as that.
>>112861824she's not embarrassed with vivi either but they both have to be forceful to get her to do anything
>>112861754correct, the fact that you're insecure enough to reply means you know it's true
>>112861754Of course grems like (You) would disagree.
I love this girl more than anything in the world...
>>112861762average autofisterfag ranking
https://x.com/todoroki_hajime/status/2068609484797435908Hajimecucks...
>>112861895See, nothingburger, Gigi is going nowhere
>>112861607>Nigga put the best merch seller after fuwamoco and Ina as 1/10 and 4/10.
>>112861949do you like people based on how much merch they sell?and mori is the best merch seller after those two
Aki crying
>>112861949Their merch numbers mean nothing to me if I don't like their content.
>>112861895I'm a Ruffian and this is cute
>>112861824AZKi is basically the only competent adult woman in the entire company desu, it's not fair to compare her to the rest.
>>112861965Qrd?
>>112861949Autofister is distinct from both cc and gg
Hololive japan audience/fanbase is rapidly declining according to Gem partners marketing research.Went from #10 September last year all the way to #22. Meanwhile Nijisanji is having their best time with #8.
>>112861937Potential nijiyab incoming
>>112861937The hell is she doing? Collabing with some random K-pop male idol?
>>112861824>skill issueShe is skilled enough to harass the others, though
>>112862019Tears of frustration
>>112861058It's fairly simple actually, Shiori before Hololive watched Mori the most (confirmed by her) and Mori (as well as anyone that knows any vtubing history at all) most likely knew of Shiori's role in early EN vtubing, combine that mutual respect/admiration and you get the current Last Writes.Also Ame does sorta play a role there too since Ame and Shiori did in fact know each other form way back (They learned pretty much all of their 3D related knowledge from the same person around the same time)
>>112859823>>112862039I mean hololive JP is one bad yab from total Selen situation. Almost every single social media user hates hololive for some reason while nobody shits on niji
>>112862055Looks like a JP indie yab to me
>>112862069Proof next thread, 53cucky?
>>112862077She's getting her rear handed in Street Fighter, isn't she?
>>112862055
>>112862087sister still mad over her black screen stream dead branch lol
>>112862087holy retard the post you replied to has a girl who basically dropped those nijis after the holos debut
>>112862039But why? Is it because of the 2025 graduations?
>>112861937Once was one thing, but it looks like they’re gonna be a permanent fixture in her contentKanade is truly the only one in that gen that matters, the rest are just awful
>>112862039you can tell this is nijiseethe because if it was true, then it would be all over the catalogue
>>112862165I feel like Cover (mainly yagoo) just WANTS males to be involved at all costs even if they have to outsource it to koreagooks in the hopes of also tapping into some faggy kpop shit. And of course some of the girls are ok with this, using the "music" and the "dancing" thing as an excuse.
>>112862142xister are way too lazy to open a xitter profile to check, please understand
nijiEN trying that minecraft RP again?
>>112862220>still getting mogged by melocowhy didn't they start learning japanese?
>>112862142Lol you say that but she still has their acrylic stand. Soon she will drop biboo
>>112861937you will never be a plave dude and get to deep dive in hajime...
>>112862172Holohttps://www.gem-standard.com/eb/70552569C54C087CB2BCADB05D247393Nijihttps://www.gem-standard.com/eb/3214E8EB6307B1E3C979477764149781
>>112862209Alright okabe purity nigger. You didn't even watch the short thing. That nigga is full on gay
>>112862235you should have just not said anything now you sound even more retarded
Tbh I wouldn't be taking word from this thread since half of them barely give a fuck about dev_is units. Raden litreally does male collab with niji people all the time
>>112862053>>112862074>>112862092I genuinely hope Vivi gets to lick Pekora's pussy
>>112862243That's what all gays say, faggotlover.
>>112862260Wait for her to drop biboo KEKAROOOO
>>112862277Wait for something that won't happen? This is just another form of graduation begging lmao
>>112862241https://www.gem-standard.com/ranking/1397Hololive last ranked on September 2025 at #10 with 4300 points.They're now at 2700 points while Nijisanji shot up to 5300 points.
>>112862262nobody wants to lick that fat ugly pig skank prostitute pussy
>>112861937Poor collab choice.
>>112862260See >>112862241It's basically over for holo, it's a dead and tainted brand because of Cover's fuckups.
>>112862039what the hell is gem? it sounds like a women thing
Matomenigger
Funny lad, le retard de Hervé Renard.
>>112862165How ironic it is that the gook of the gen is the only one who matters while others do not.
Kiara watchalong when?
>>112862261Huh? I thought she had better standards than that.
>>112862241>equation includes expenditure amountthey forgot to include the 2 billion yen in unsold merch
Soonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK4Uv5yy6IYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK4Uv5yy6IYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK4Uv5yy6IY
>>112862307i dunno sister, you still sound really mad despite the "success" of nijiJPis it because of your tainted and dead branch? nobody takes your side over the mint visa drama?
>>112862392Confirmed guests?
>>112862241>>112862313no idea, but it looks like to be a monthly ranking based on survey results and says Nijisanji has more fans than One Piece or Youtube (?).This shit is like Glassdoor for fan bases
>>112862356>holoen ever getting recognized by fifaLmao they'll never join the big leagues
>>112862413All I remember about GEM is people used to shit on niji using those numbers since hololive had better score previously
>>112862241>is actually real
>>112862413Does anyone know how to explain why Nijisanji beats Hololive in 10 or more ranks for both number of fans and fans committed to spending in the GEM surveys, but the actual revenue gap is much smaller than that would imply?
>>112862413>Nijisanji has more fans than One Piece or YoutubeKEK i never heard of this shit even at infamous nip vtuber anti site where they shit on chuuba all day, someone is desperate
>>112862466Carried by gacha ticket is my guess since the rank seems to be based on merch
>>112862466Female fans vs male fans
>>112862513>paying fans vs neets
>>112862527uhhhh so nijisisters are bunch of neets?
>>112857658there is no such thing as what you're claiming in that threadA shitpost is something like: Hololive wonYou are a cuckposter
>>112860666>>112860699>>112860784
>>112862466The top of the rankings this month seem to be Pokemon, Chiikawa, Horse Racing, and 3 male idol groupsSo either female fans spending more on average and/or more survey responses compared to males
>>112862466>surveyyou are a retard
>>112862466The research focuses on Japanese only whereas the revenues on the financial reports combines both overseas and domestic sales.Around 30% of Cover's revenue came from overseas which would be in line with the market report.
Any survey gets the result it wants, are you guys 12 years old
uuuhhhhh, Cucklings?
>>112862637randon won.
https://x.com/i/status/2068597039026553135https://x.com/i/status/2068574849552023557Sakura Aoi, formerly a niji organ whose name I can't recall, announced her small corpo's first graduation.
>>112862637JP hours cuckposter
>>112862591You're not getting stuff like>エンタメブランドへの気持ち>エンタメブランドへのイメージ 「親しみがやすい」「時代に合っている」「わくわくする」など29項目>ファン心理 「今後もずっと応援するつもりだ」「このコンテンツは持続的にお金を今後も使いたい」など6項目>ファンステージ 「信者/人生の一部」「大ファン」「ファン」「ファンとは言えないが好き」「気になる程度」except through a survey
>>112862613The survey correctly predicted Cover's failure to reach their revenue target by billions of yen.
>>112862658I don't care about fake irrelevant nonsense
>>112862413>Nijisanji has more fans than One Piece or Youtube
>>112862392>Less than 200 viewers waiting Grim. At least Hajime is there. I also see the anal-loving Nijisanji woman.
>>112862647>rebon>rebornis this the niji avengers?
>>112862392we will be watching
>>112861937>Korean male idol collab shortGross.
https://x.com/i/status/2068631739883569502King loses his Vsai run.
>>112862647I can only remember her because she leeched la+ for a while in FPS training/tourney
>>112862685There's Miko and Hajime and maybe Mori there.
>>112862647I remembered her, she said nijisanji is a black corpo that take her credit on her personal lawsuit, despite doing nothing against her antis for years.
I foresee a Japan in final with Pekora having a 350k viewers pov, inviting plenty of Holomembers she's close with.
>>112862799(me)Dubs of truth.
>>112862799>Japan >FinalThey're gonna be beaten by Brazil first thing in the knockout stages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8wGfKHTIsE>pekovivi openly cheering for males
One day top 10 streams will all be soccer even for vtuber...
>>112862828Issou.
Mori if she was a cringe white woman
>>112862799and she will invite miko and they will finally mend their relationship after years
>>112862828
>>112862866eww
Not a fan
why do asians do that squarish haircut that makes their face seem even more round
>>112862902
Cool
>>112862829Schizo retard.
Koyori...
my twitter tl is filled with the japanese celebrating in shibuya
>>112862962It's just that his country's national sport is cricket, a.k.a. the most boring sport in history (even curling is more interesting).
>>112858759VIVI!!!!
>>112860912>6k likes
>>112863019Where was this energy when japan won WBC in 2023??
>>112862866blue leech filth
>towas team was doing well on that rigged vtuber cup>suddenly towa gets hit by a car
So when will kiara get her world cup watchalong perms?
>>112862799nah they got too cucked in the deathmatches, its like Brazil, then Germany, then England, and so on
>>112862685https://x.com/i/status/2068528084387758130It's just the guests announcement, the actual event will be on the 30th next week
>>112863156none of those teams are whiteI'd worry if Brazil slips
Germany will win this year
>>112863142>doing well She lost 6 matches out of 7 on the first day anon, and that's before she broke down and cried on stream.Her team is basically last place.
I like fat grems
>>112863193haven't towa and aki been in a bunch of tournaments already why did they get upset at this one
>>112863233i like fat germs
Suddenly she feels better, as if she had absorbed Gunrun's soul
So... Remember when someone asked Gura before her graduation if she would have a birthday last year and she said no? I guess no one expected her to never have another birthday celebration again.
>>112863270thats until someone says something bad about her again, then shell suddenly go back to almost dying :(
thread so fucking dead without schizo pumping us up that niggas just nostalgia posting with the report card
https://x.com/yuki_sakuna/status/2068643864693686686My onyon wants to join the bandwagon
>>112863291I wonder if it'll work again, the normies are ready to shit on her again
>>112863276next year for sure
>>112863298>sees big noombas, now interested fucking fake fans man
>>112863305Numbers are so cringe man
>>112863298She should do a sisters watchalong, pekobibi has been a bit too much lately.
>>112860912slipkora kek
>>112863316roru. rumao even. Anyway, will she reach a full 6-month hiatus before streaming again?
>>112863325>she should leech this person more because she's been leeching another person a lot lately
Wait Miko is in?
>>112863364yes there's literally her silhouette there
>>112863364Looks like hajime will also participate. Who's running AI channel now anyways? I thought her soul have already moved on another venture.
>24kdamn without botting and leeching, rabbit leech truly is nothing
NNNNNNNNVIVI!
>>112863298She's no longer your onionShe's a whoreUltra whore
>>112863505ya my whore
>>112862039>>112862087Sadly this is pretty much true in JP. Hololive is winning pretty handily overseas, but in the much more important JP market Hololive has been losing ground due to successive controversies worsening its image. Its to the point where a general netizen opinion of Cover and Hololive is "Just go backrupt already!" And well, you can see that reflected in the financial data. It does have a big audience there, but its a shrinking audience of long time viewers, and one without a future really while its image deters new viewers. Most of the controversies aren't exactly major things, but Cover's handling, no statements fighting anti narratives, and not much of a public commitment to fighting those narratives has caused the damage to stick. It doesn't help that the market in general isn't in a very good situation with the economic turmoil globally, so both Anycolor and Cover are under worse financial pressures, but doubly so because its fanbase is calcified with little new intake, and its much more vulnerable to global turmoil with the logistics of merch. This difference is most visible in Nijisanji overtaking Hololive in views and merch sales gap widening. basically Nijisanji is winning the war of funneling new viewers and public perception.
>Irys sub2kwhat happened???
>>112863590It's a JP only collab, it's the 50th time they've streamed Splatoon, and she didn't put a frame up until right before it started.
>>112863559repeating something over and over to convince others is a sign that you don't actually believe in what you're saying
>>112862670
>>112863559woops, not backrupt, bankrup! The general JP netizen opinion is 'Cover go bankrupt already!'.General netizens hate the ip they like collabing with Hololive and fear it happening to them, so general negative sentiment is fierce any time it looks like its happening, so Cover is treated as a nuisance, whereas nijisanji collabs are usually as background characters on the side in unobtrusive formats, so criticism is generally muted, if there is any at all, and there often isn't, so their public image looks better.To be clear this outrage isn't necessarily justified, they usually aren't, but Cover's handling of the attacks is just so bad. Just staying quiet and relying on quiet legal action does eventually take care of the more vicious ones, but in the mean time they've caused alot of shit to stick that won't come off just by their absence, and more come to take their place because the public perception worsens.
holy esl babble
>>112863626/IRySnumberthread
>>112863639I mean, the other guy already linked you the evidence, and I'm just saying the general observation for JP netizens. I can understand you don't want to accept it since its kinda the opposite situation overseas where nijisanji's image is shit and Hololive's is good, but it is what it is, and the JP market is much more important overall for their existence than overseas, which is kinda an afterthought in terms of relative importance for many reasons.
>>112863400OG Ai is backhttps://x.com/shiorinovella/status/1894755455047504365
>>112863722go ahead and reply to yourself for a 5th time maybe then I'll believe you
>>112863677Sounds like when some no name spergs start whining on twitter that Hololive took over some anime con and its just all about Hololive for a weekend and none of their who gives a shit media gets represented.
>>112862155Yagoo was shitted a lot in twitter around Kanata'sgraduation. People were losing a lot of trust on him and spirilazing after Aqua left.
>>112863746well yea, its no name spergs, except its many no noname spergs, and they're all japanese, and the general Japanese population is much more twitter oriented so the general population is exposed to those in a casual fashion which sets negative uninformed opinions about Hololive in the public consciousness, which lowers the amount of new fans coming in.Its not anything deliberate on the general public's part, its hearing bad opinions in passing and so in passing very casually being less willing to pay attention to Hololive stuff, or feeling just a bit more yucked out if there's a collab with Hololive in an IP they like. There;s possibly an element of successful psyop campaigns from extreeme tribalist nijistans too, but regardless the difference in public image is notable, and is having real effects.
>>112863792This isn't even english, what are you even trying to say
>>112863816>is having real effectYeah whatever.
Only Irys-tan has an EN translator in chat, but only 1.7k niggas watching, holy moronshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g6NnXverlU
Holy leech, is it gonna be all holos?
>>112863846>leader of Hololive JP>leader of Hololive EN>leader of Hololive DEV_ISKino.
>Total Channel Subscribers Exceed 13 Million! Nine Star-Studded Guests Announced!!! Live Surprise Appearances!!! [Kizuna Ai]Great numberfagging from Kizuna AI, I berry naisu!
>>112863846I wouldn't mind taking Ai to holo, only her 2018 pewdiepie version
>>112863859leader of ID...
>>112863846Well one is that peanut thing, so not exactly I guess.
Today I learned that Nijisanji has more fans than One Piece and Youtube
https://youtu.be/DuFXgTndsugIs there any restream, or do I have to wait for nyaa again?
>>112863842Stop killing your average, Irys…
>>112863846I wish it was Shiori as well but it's never happening
>>112863871Ollie...
>>112863882holy shit riku sama! our belo jogo finally did it!
>>112863840its whatever to you, you are an overseas fan so you aren't inundated in it, but the JP talents have to face that casual malice, and Cover does a pretty poor job of removing the roots of it. and in the numbers thread, its effecting Hololive's ability to compete with Nijisanji, obviously. That might not matter to you, but it IS the numbers thread after all, so its worth cataloguing Cover's decline in the numbers here and thee reasons for it. Its pretty clear that Nijisanji has supplanted Hololive as the top Vtuber corporation, regaining the position it previously held, but its a question of whether Cover will even stay competitive, or become a solid 2nd place with quite some distance from 1st.
>>112863859You wish 53cucky.
>>112863913I thought Portugal was in Europe...
>>112861134It's ironic because the thing cover DOES give is interest free loans kek
>>112863842anon what are you doing
>>112863917I just see niji botting to shit on the daily, you can keep posting these paragraphs of fanfiction if you want, reality will continue to exist.
>>112863922noufaggot melty
Queen is back to 5 view gang
>>112863859The leader of EN is Kiara though.
>>112863930Got a fun way to see who’s on both Towa and here at the same time, kek
Hololive will die and she will still be around. Imagine the pottery.
>>112863983weird way to spell Calliope Mori
>>112863930>posted on towa firstholy kek
>>112863677Curiously, said netizens always seem to turn out to be nijibutas Strange!Maybe they should learn to not fucking do it on main
>>112863991>Hololive will die
>>112863941Well, we agree reality will continue to exist, you are just denying it and screaming bots, but that doesn't stop it. Bots don't buy merch, and its much harder to bot views than it is live ccv, both of which Nijisanji is winning in, while also winning in the arena of pulbic opinion and public image.Nijisanji is a better company, with livers that are seen as morally preferrable to Hololive talents, and so preferable to Japanese audiences.
>>112863983Emperor and Empress
>>112863917Source: your ass?
>>112864014K, have fun out there.
giga chad is here
>>112863846>>112863859>is it gonna be all holos?Holy absolute retards
>>112862039>>112862413>Hololive japan audience/fanbase is rapidly declining according to Gem partners marketing research.>what the hell is gem?>no idea, but it looks like to be a monthly ranking based on survey results and says Nijisanji has more fans than One Piece or YoutubeImagine arguing over this.Some of you have way too much free time and also not watching streams
>>112864005Sure, there is an element of tribalism, though it will always be denied and they will be treated as individuals disguising themselves as nijifans to carry out anti activities. cutting off the lizards tail like that works too in the public consciousness since Cover fans don't really push that hard back. Cover antis are better able to exploit internal fan schisms than what happens on the nijisanji side. That is one of the reason's Cover is falling behind.
Aogiri High School! An actual, friendly company focused on unicorns!
>>112864074That one fag is getting trolled so hard kek
>>112864074Holofag in denial, exhibit A
>>112864089all hails the glorious ppm rate
>>112864089Holofag in denial, exhibit B
>>112864074It seems you are new to the numbers thread lol>>112864026someone already posted the fanbase decline source, go look it up. Keyword is gem. Rest is vstats watchtime report and JP twittersphere and Cover and Anycolor financial reports.
>>112863983TRVKE
>>112864079>disguising themselvesThey always have years of nijilith history kekIt's so fucking bad and happens so often its actually becoming a running joke among everyone else that vtuber antis attacking holo are always just nijilith now, and it's almost always true
>>112864089So is this what it's like to be sucked by a time vampire or something?
Towa drops out of day 2 of Vsai.Meanwhile Astel wins LTK.Two sides of Cover's esports reps.
>>112864107The same anycolor financial reports that catered its fucking stock? And has had its stock crater after every report this year?From 5k to 2k and STILL FALLING is obscene
>>112864113just classic baiting, really
>splatoon 3 salmon run in big 2026so who’s the one in the group chat initiating the random stream
Miko started! Nyahallo~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7bx_vbW9vE
THERE SHE IS
>>112864107>GemYou meant the survey that just added a bunch of new factors this year and one put Niji ahead of freaking One Piece?Yeah, very credible.Come back when their average CCV beat Holo
>>112864089kek reminds me of this
>>112864192>new factorsNo they didnt. Their metrics has always been 3>Number of people who reported they're a fan of brand X>The amount of money they spent on brand X>The amount of time they spent in contact of brand X
>>112864103That you think this is about us defending Holo, you're either a retarded ESL or the one who is baiting
>>112864192Watch hours is king. No one cares about average outside of this shithole. That’s why all official reports from data sites focus on total watch hours
so why was pekora able to do a world cup watchalong, but not Kiara?
Oh by the way, Miko subs went up, the 40k subs that Yamashita Masaki put his life on the line to decrease are recovering....
>>112864089kek, yeah, niji would never bot in an attempt to statpad their shit results and stop their stocks freefall>・In response to a question about the recovery in viewing time for NijisanjiEN during the Q&A session, Tagami replied that "streaming projects such as Minecraft, festivals, etc. were the cause" (in reality, this was due to the influence of bots and was not accurate data).>after exactly a year of that, they pulled out all the bots from nijien, to focus solely on botboosting nijijp streams instead
>>112864240Austrian broadcasting rights
>>112864240peko vivi watching via abema so they got perms easily kiara is dealing with the austrian broadcasting agency
>>112864192Funny how he keeps ignoring the "put Niji ahead of One Piece" part
>>112864256They were 50k nousagi who were still subscribed since the pekomiko era.
>>112864264Doesn’t matter. Botting clearly help now that we have hard proof that Niji is notably ahead of Holo in Japan.As this thread used to say, numbers beget numbers. Fake numbers are numbers, too, which is why all big streamers use bots
>>112864272>>112864274Abema should sponsor Kiara. Is cover dumb? EN market is so much bigger than JP and making Kiara react to world cup will give massive numbers.
pekoschizo...
>>112864240Kiara managed to get Austria perms actually which is good because it’s for the one fixture that matters with Argentina
>>112864274>Long, declining manga series that just went through one of the worst arc (Wano) in his history, plus the big bad reveal has been received poorly>The manga / anime scene as a whole has been in a decline in Japan over last 2 yearsGeez, wonder why people aren’t surprised that Niji can beat current One Piece
>>112864281your bait is way too lazy
>>112864313Feel free to point out where I was wrong
>>112864275I uhh don't believe that actually, but regardless yamashita masaki is gonna go to jail and the damage he caused will eventually become nothing. A good end!
>>112864322id rather watch paint dry that continue to engage a conversation with you lol
do you ever feel like you are in a time loop?
>>112864192>>112862413I checked and the survey never said that Nijisanji have more fans than one piece. Quite the opposing even, they reported One piece has 1.06M fans while Nijisanji has 660k.The market research did put Nijisanji to have a slightly better brand value than One piece because their respective respondents reported they spend more time in contact with Nijisanji than One piece despite one piece having more fans.
>>112864311holy fuck, just go ahead and post niji fans are bigger than one piece on JP twitter in Japanese, you will get torn a new asshole.
Retards Justifying bots are the same as Intelfags justifying not patching Spectre and Meltdown for performance.
>>112864345See >>112864337
bro why the fuck are we talking about some nip survey shit when even holoanti matome schizo wasn't using this as an ammo?this nijinigger is trying way too hard to make this inrelevant survey a thing
>>112864337this + goldman scams makes it smell an awful lot like the vshojo retarded paid propaganda articles lol
>>112864359yea it disproves you, one piece fanbase much bigger than nijisanji. god what a retarded statement to say nijisanji is bigger than one piece.
>>112864365it isn't an article, it's a monthly consumer report anon.If you go back to September there's even holo at #10. September is the last month holo ranked in this report.
Miko botted af chart
>>112864410crying nijinounigger
>14k>8k>7kThese are insane collab numbers for flowglow
Miko (natty) is mogging pighoera hard lol
>>112864394>Oshi Entertainment Brand Scopethats a fucking ai slop blackbox algo that keeps making more and more shit as it goes lol
>>112864361Pretty sure this is just the uniquemem schizo approachthread is slow nowadays so he just samefag to hell and back to fabricate an idea to people who are just lurking that their retardation matters, meanwhile he's just holding a "discussion" entirely by himself.
>>112864431https://www.gem-standard.com/columns/749They've been doing this since 3-4 years ago anon
>>112864421Minecraft is a buff gameMore news at 11
>>112864443so has stream hatchet lol
Chihaya makes some cute noises huh
>>112864421FG has been inclining like crazy the last few months
>>112864443wrong, Stream Hatchet has been scamming people for fucking 11 years kek, and the lazy & incompetent marketing staffs keep coming to buy more slop just so they can have anything to show to their clueless directors
>>112864426desu it was kinda disgusting that pekora forced the watchalong to be on her channel instead of Vivi's. Vivi is the soccer fan, not her, she couldn't give less fucks. Shows she doesn't care about vivi, she cares about numbers on her channel.
>>112864530is this a spambot or are you just retarded
>>112864536It's both
Well even if Hololive is losing by the numbers, it will always win in my heartThis song capture's Hololive's soul.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7C5Hb4Lp8I
Total /jp/cuck death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK4Uv5yy6IYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK4Uv5yy6IYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK4Uv5yy6IYKARI CHAN KAKKOI
>>112864574that's right, hololive's soul... cute girls and no homos!
>>112864594male peanut collab for miko...
>>112864614PEanut is a peanut
randon deez nuts
>>112864503>Stream hatchet What is that? Qrd pls
>>112864614retard
>>112864574> Well even if X is losing by the numbers, it will always win in my heartThat’s the same cope homosisters have been using
So I was right about hololive having bad PR and people moving away from the JP fanbase plus current jp fanbase saying nijisanji looks way better than hololive.Yagoo really needs to hire a good PR staff but that nigga is too busy doing who knows what.
>>112864611THD
Vivi screaming right into my ears
>>112864394>SeptemberNow I remember what happened in the beginning of October.Haachama killed the holobox lmao
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mcmrkVsbWfMgraduation announcement in 5 minutes
>>112864361>bro why the fuck are we talking about some nip survey shit when even holoanti matome schizo wasn't using this as an ammo?Reason being shit like this used to be the ammo people in this thread used to use to shit on nijisanji but the tables have turned
>>112864731Only ammo people ever needed to shit on niji is stream numbers. Still is.
>pick holos as a teammate>loses the tourneyLmaooo
>>112864677rather than pr staff, it probably needs to hire a 3rd party to curate its social media image for a time. that means a 3rd party that can use bots to mass report slander, use bots to exaggerate niji controversies and to spread bad rumors about it, like nijifans are doing to hololive. The 3rd party is so there is an area of plausible deniability. But the only way Hololive can combat it is tearining niji down worse since the waters are already muddy.
>>112864768I don't think the water is muddy on the JP side
>>112864653and? what's your point?
>>112864775I mean muddy for Hololive, and yea it is. Best option is to get that mud on niji too.
>>112864731>retarded corpo blowjobbery NOT nijisanji's forteWhy are you trying this angle
>>112864775EN's waters seems clear af compared to JP unironically thanks to western vtubers who's basically radioactive.
>>112864731glad to know this thread is living rent free in your head lol
When was the last time we heard a major yab happening in niji JP. I think the Kanae shit was pretty big but every month there is a new hololive shit festival on X
Konmira!
>>112864799Nigga what kind of retarded statement is that?
>>112864801nippleman AV piracy is the one I really remember, how the fuck did that end so easily.
Just imagine how dead this place would be without nimi
>>112864801The biggest shit corpo wise recently was Hayato being a nazi and woman abuser.>laplusmostly pretend outrage like most holoJP yabs
>>112864801That's how you know no one real watches niji.
>>112864821Isn’t the most recent one is niji merch plagiarism
>>112864821no the laplus yab is pretty damn real among the jp gakumas community. Likely puts the kibbosh on any future collabs.
Kakkoii
>>112864835Yeah but nothing ever came out of this. The Laplus shit was big considering it made to en side as well. The only thing close to it was kanae stuff
>>112864727>it's nothing
>>112864801You might as well ask that on the JP side, Hololive already won overseas, niji is basically unknown here, and no one really wants to know, its mostly just shitposters using it. This is why nijisanji supposedly trying again is hilarious, their overseas outreach is pretty much dead, they burned it all on that black screen stream and their equally poor followup.
>>112864830No, it's because they behave and are well managed unlike the gaped whores in holo JP
>>112864837>it's pretty damn realthanks for making it easy for us nijisis, literally 0 effort shitposts.
>>112864837>>112864845PFFFF HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>112864845what? It made it to the EN side? I never saw that, if anything I saw a pretty obvious jp retard trying to post about it on the gakumas reddit and got told to gtfo and deleted.
Okay, what happened to have the sisters get this uppity? who got raped this time?
>>112864727Indies don't graduate unless they're joining a corpo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ8Nmr5F4J4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ8Nmr5F4J4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ8Nmr5F4J4
>mira sub 3kIt's over for hololive
150k watching hololive (and mekpark)
>>112864874JPcucks seething because they realized their holowhores are run through, they're pretty mad
>>112864872 I am pretty sure I saw some retards talking about the gakuma on en side of twitter and there was post about it on leddit. Even the en dramafags covered it.
>>112864845>bandai and laplus have an agreement to use characters How is it a yab?
>>112864874nijisanji is winning, hololive is losing. With Evidence. Hololive looks like shit in Japan, Nijisanji looks clean. Pretty much that.
>>112864921>even the dramafags covered itYou mean the dramafags who cover>10 likes 100 viewstweets when they're out of content?
>>112864921>>112864872Non JP players doesnt have any issue with the collab because they're not as obsessed as to harass someone because they don't like a performance.
>>112864927Oh, was there finally some evidence for this that hololive couldn't bot?Everyone knew that already though
>>112864766>kuzuha trying to stack his team to win>6th place kwab
>>112864927>>112864949HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHoly shit dude it's too early in the morning to be this comedic
>>112864830It's no one on en sphere watches niji.Their comiket shit had like 7000 circles participating. Nijifes was downgraded but still had good participation. Their JP concerts are sold out and they have good enough revenue to compete with hololive even though most people here know livers get like 2% of it.The GEM shit I don't know how they get people for survey but I feel like this shit might be pushed around by sisters on twitter later.Also just noticed their new? Nijiforums thing is starting to show activity with few people posting over there
why does miko's graph look like your average niji 3d
>>112864857Niji COULD have recovered by slashing a couple literal who department leads and managers and putting out an insincere apology saying it was awful what happenedBuuuut they didn't, and so they keep their brand of shame forever nowWhether that's riku, whatever literal jeet ex-talents were in charge of en, or elira's fault who knows Probably all of them
>>112864962Sorry, I was a bit too harsh on nijifags, let me correct myself. No one cares enough to hatewatch niji to amplify any yabs unlike their obsessed sisters hovering over hololive.
>>112864949no its more about the casual fanbase, holo still puts up a good fight with dedicated fans which viewers are, but its facing bottlenecks on new fans entering and casual fans following due to poor pr and successive controversies.and the inability to reform its image in the netizen space so that the general net opinion is 'go bankrupt already!'Basically its losing around the edges right now and is unable to stop the fraying.
>>112864993This doesn’t work when both companies release their financials publicly
this retard going for record number of own posts in a # thread I guess.
>>112864962Their revenue is barely competing with hololive DESPITE them only giving their talents 2% is the problem They're keeping 98% of all earnings and yet somehow they're still lagging behind a company that approaches fucking 50% on certain products and salesThat's absurd
>>112864973? Looks very smooth to me.
>>112864980Because they (correctly) guessed that why bother wasting money on insincere apologies and actually doing better when you can just keep flooding the market with cheap garbage and extract until the last cent of those poor thingsThey have debuted almost 30 people since the Selen Shock, all of them doing like absolute shit but you bet your ass they have profited off them. Niji is the first and best example of VTuber slavery. Remember back when the King Engine still existed all of those bullshit 8 hour "work streams"? You think the organs wanted to do those? Fuck no.
>>112864960>stalling at 40k>suddenly hatbotted lol lmao, that's for proving my point cuckie niji won gaped holowhores lost
>>112865030i meant spiking to 90% of it's peak in 5 minutes
>>112865032But their revenue from NijiEn has been dropping constantly. Accelerate hasn’t worked for NijiEN they’re making less money with more organs
>>112865032Problem is they HAVEN'T really profited off them.. the fucking literal mountains of written off merch that just tanked their stock being proof of that
>>112864973She's been botted every stream for the past 3 years, why even comment on it
>>112864980yup, overseas that's true, but their image is pretty much the opposite in JP, the difference is honestly rather funny, surprised there isn't a video about the pretty much 100% opposite views.
https://youtube.com/shorts/54ul4QBH8zM
>>112865007Yes, which niji comfortably won
>>112865056Their public image has been worsening in recent days thanks to the repeated exposure of nijibuta being behind v-anti accounts and raiding platforms
>>112865056There isn't a video about that because not even dramatubers are as desperate as you.
>>112864993you need to leave your trooncord echo chamber sister, majority of people doesn't care about all this online dramanijiEN drama was so bad it reached the normies sphere even moist and asmon was talking about it all this nijiJP vs holoJP yab in your head doesn't really have huge impact like you believedthe only true yab is the selen drama because it effectively killed a branch
>>112865056Nigga, who are you trying to fool.The yab with Johnny's showed that your average normie thinks of Niji as these weird little freaks who love to plagiarize actual idols and act like psychopaths whenever pressed.
>>112864825Why does this nobody have like 1k
>>112865038I mean its basically a zatsudan anon without a special announcement, this is core fanbase material, not something that's gonna see alot of fluctuation.
>>112865021Revenue is sales before any cuts or costs anon. You're confusing revenue with profits.
>>112864895literally not hololive
So can we add Gemtranny to Gokischizos repertoire now?
>>112865007NTA I have an alt twitter account I have noticed that even a small shit like fubuki saying one of the arknight girl looks like her little sister gets ultra boosted by antis to the point vtuber hating otakus start bitching about the girls Meanwhile kuzuha horse shit or the Kanae rape thing just died out consider those were career ending yabs
>>112865056You're talking to a bunch of EOPs that can't even understand the key jangling holowhores they watch, you're wasting your time explaining how much niji clears in mindchair in JP
>>112865056There is no video precisely because nobody knows shit about NijiJP and their who botted organs.
>>112865021They have better profits.compared to hololive. Revenue is almost the same for a company branch that this thread has zero idea about
>>112865112Nigga you don't know japanese
>>112865102they dont include talent-funded merch rev into their rev, just their cuts, on this case
>>112865082its too bad, I find the contrast rather interesting myself, it really shows the different internet cultures.
>>112865131>t. seething EOP cuck immediate melty, nice
>>112865021But you admit they mog hololive, funny
Mira my beloved
Considering nijisanji has decided to do overseas expansion soon we will see en side getting shat on and things like that the same attack pattern as jp
>>112865161English isn't your forte, is it.
Its really good that miko is shilling holoplus like this. This is how you keep people checking. Other talents should do the same.
>>112865143>Brown little dick nijinig calling anyone a cuckYour women flock to me little nig
>>112865175So you admit they mog, despite all the cope deflection cuckie?
>>112865170That's the cute thing, they can't.The whole disguising yourself as a disgruntled fan and trying to shill Niji on the side doesn't work on NijiEN because NijiEN has the reputation of cancer, of AIDS. You try to sell NijiEN to any VTuber fan and it would be like trying to ask them to get cancer.
>>112865170as the other anon said, that simply won't work, niji is too toxic on the EN side and Holo too clean.
>>112865170theyve been already trying it the whole time, via using the homostars as a wepaon
>>112865186>the EOP is actually seething LMAO how embarrassing
>>112865110The deal with twitter is that 70% of all activities on jp twitter is from middle aged women who are basically 90% of nijisanji's fanbase.Twitter is a losing battle for JP holofans due to the number alone.JP females are also tribalistic as fuck so they'll boost anti sentiments to anyone that they believe is in the way of their oshi and dogpiles anyone who dares shit on theirs.Vtuber antis have basically said they tried flaming niji and holo, but for some reason only anti sentiments against holos grows in numbers (boosted by jp nijisisters).It's an unfortunate situation but there's not much that can be done in that end.
I think mekpark should play minecraft
>>112865196They destroyed all their chances, all their momentum to grow on the EN side of vtubing the day they unleashed the Black Stream. Despite what the nijisisters claim, the Selen Shock undoubtedly killed Nijisanji in the west. It was over for them the moment Elira and her goons did that infamous Stream.
>>112865229>admits niji wins>concedes niji have superior mindchair Oh no no no holokeks we got too cocky
>>112865229The Green Channel shit was the single biggest harassment campaign ever done for a VTuber and it did jackshit to stop Miko.The only thing JP Nijiniggers are doing is outing themselves as caricature villains
>>112865233They can't play anything, they are forced to do zatsu until they graduate
>>112865122that's part of the culture gap unfortunately. But I still think it would be an interesting video.
>>112859212The viewer is the adoptive father, retard.
>>112865243Yeah, they really ruined themselves and its a bit hard to recover, I do think EN market general is actually wide open for competition if you just make content people like enough, after all lot of holo EN is simply way too inactive when it comes to streaming, they will just keep bleeding fans endlessly as thing stand.
>>112865243kek i honestly can`t believe that video is still up
>>112865257Remove her 3 years of bots and you could make that claim
>>112865296Do you think AIDS will ever have a good reputation? Do you think people will ever want to get AIDS?
>>112865257Its simply wrong to say it did jackshit, miko lost 40k subs. that aint 0. She's recovering now thankfully and will with time make it all back, but it did happen, and the main fucker behind it is now facing the american court system and afterwards will face the Japanese court system since they have is real info, the dumb fucker ojisan who lives with his parents, Yamashita Masaki.
>>112865196Anon have you been sleeping on this thread.They don't disguise people as disgruntled fans they make engagement bait account go viral .Let me simplify it for you.>Let say nerissa is getting to sing the opening of some new anime>Some retarded vtuber hating nigga says " I hate when vtubers sings anime opening" >These marketing fags will boost the ever living shit out that post with bots>Next second you get hordes of engagement hungry accounts who stay in normie side >They will all start pushing hololive is bad repertoire because it gives them easy money>Rinse and repeat it for a few months now every single normal fag hates hololiveThis is what they have been doing on X. They take some random ass baseball guy shitting on koyori engagement boost it and then Koyori now has a bunch of retarded baseball idiots calling her whore on twitter which forces her into hiatus Same thing happened with Miko Lui Riona fubuki towa and even Aki They will just repeat this technique in west as well and cover cant do anything because even if they take down the said "retard going monkey" the main culprit wont be caught
Post semen demons.
Nattiest botted stream, 53cuckies.
>>112865296Phase is the future of EN vtubing
Larptubers when?
>>112865296>its a "bit" hard to recoverlmao thats some heavy duty copium right there sis
>>112865317>losing subswowprobably the least important number of all time
>>112865366Im Mr.Fluffy
>>112865344All JPwhores are botted
>>112865395Seethe ENshart your tears are delicious.
This thread is the most I interact with woman in all of my lifeI could never imagine woman being this active online before finding #
>>112865329anon, that just won't work on the EN side. I get what you're saying but there's too many holofans, not enough real antis, and the anime audience is still pretty adjacent to the vtuber audience. Even Anime is still kinda niche in the West, it isn't truly 'general audience'.
>>112865378NTA but a few 35p got harassed too. It's all because of overseas35p movement Miko didn't end up facing trouble. Cover basically says that the talent is responsible for their own image on social media. They consider themselves more like a IP leasing company than a talent agency for Hololive and hololive en. Dev_is is the only branch that gets active pr support and marketing push
>>112865329>Next second you get hordes of engagement hungry accounts who stay in normie side This won't happen in anywhere that's not Japan. Especially so in western anitwt which overlaps significantly with right wing pro-loli pro free speech twitter that leans to non-conforming opinions.
>>112865403They're botted too, cuckie Are you a newfag?
>>112865346Phase definitely has way better chance than Niji.
>>112865329Slidemark engagement farm hololive en
>>112865378its still not nothing anon. saying nothing happened is a lie. And subs are still important, they are still goals. Don't tell me they aren't happy when they hit those million sub milestones.
>>112865430>cuckieOh you are that schizo. Yeah keep seething.
Miko doing powerpro from tomorrow
>>112864614She's used to leech off m*les.
>>112865416>>112865426Idk these fuckers are too slimey. We know the general twitch / anime audience hate vtubers and considers people who watch them corny. They don't need to push nijisanji they just need to make hololive look bad.
>roa sounds more adult nowi think she's being skinwalked!
>>112865448Nerissa slept through hers, and Biboo is pretty much there and never gave a shit. They might have been somewhat important/prestigious some years ago, not now.
>>112865467>all nijiniggers look the sameI thought this was chinman
>>112864272It can't be that easy I remember 4 Years ago Pekora said she couldn't get permissions to do watch alongs. In the end is up to management I guess
>>112865448A lot of them genuinely doesn't care about sub numbers, so no. At most it was the 1 mil for the wish, and even there, a good amount of them don't actually engage in subs farming even when they're close. So no, you're wrong.
>>112865257>biggest harassment campaignYou weren't even there when the cocochammers shenanigans happened, 53pagpag, stop LARPing.
>>112865471HoloEN also has the shield of ENVTubers whose toxic rep makes any holo looks like the most professional saints in the internet.
>>112865457As expected from gomisanji.
>>112865329>repeat this technique in westfrankly its impossible, we have way too many holochads out here, to the point they are able to host and run their own site, and now /vt/ is so much slower than before thats how huge they aremeanwhile just one word from mint everybody is shitting niji again, they are the lolcow of EN chuuba industryhololive runs everything outside japan
>>112865515Oh yeah there is that as well
>>112865507that was when the entire vtubing were still united against a single enemy. nijiniggers are still too afraid to anti Coco and Haachama because that would brand them as siding with chinks, who the japs already hate. the Miko thing was more successful because there's no common enemy to associate them as. the holos are on their own so they're more vulnerable.
>>112865507VTubers were still too niche for anyone outside of the fanbase to give a shit in 2020-2021.Most of the harassment came exclusively from chinks which anyone can easily dismiss.The scale now is different in 2026 that any holo recent drama however small requires weeks of discussions and opinions from clout chasing youtubers giving their 2 cents.
Even though I agree with the sentiment that Holo live has bad PR on twitter and shit but based on what the anon who compiled the events tally with 320,000 participants this year compared to nijisanji 250,00 I think riku deciding to slow down acceleration of events only mean that anycolor is burning away money without any returns
Back from work, watching Okayu
>>112865515>Hire good honest people WINit really is that easy
>miko ends>Pekora inclined by 20%PKMK BROSSSSSSS
How did Yuy do it? How did she sell 1000 plushies?
I cant believe I missed the Saba bday live
>>112865630You didnt.
>>112865625Funded by India
>>112865500>>112865480If you think most of them feel nothing when subs drop without knowing where the end is, or when sub milestones are hit, you are coping. Also just because nerissa has no motivation or ambition doesn't mean others dont.
>>112865640w-what?
>>112861478Ksonfags feed Kson and Kanata now... I sould sent more than usual....
>>112865649You're the only one coping here. Literally making shit up to pretend that Miko is "hurting" from this nothingburger.
>>112865649And your coping by implying they care that deeply about them.
>>112863912Ollie isn't leader of shit after THAT incident.
>>112865606There's not much that can be done on JP twitter as long as elon keep pushing controversial posts and jp females (majority of jp twitter activities) is pushing niji at the expense of holo.
when will Miko go back to doing horse betting streams again?
>>112865453>melty nice
>>112865606>riku deciding to slow down acceleration of eventsThe catch is that their model depends on scarcity. They use a lottery system and a limited ticket supply to create intense competition for tickets, which supports higher prices. If they increase supply enough that tickets are no longer scarce, the lottery loses its appeal, prices come down, and overall revenue could actually decrease despite selling more tickets.
>>112865596uhh no, that schizo is a fucker, but it is true to say the harassment during the taiwan crisis was much MUCH worse. its not even a question, if you're questioning it, you simply weren't there to see the chats become unusable or the gore+doxposts + death threats. It was before Cover had real mod teams or Youtube had good anti spam systems too.
>Nerissaschizo has been larping as pekomikoschizocringe
>>112861478Any Holo girl who has been in the company for more than 5 years is set for life if they're not retarded
>>112865630Unarchived too, such a bummer.
>>112865596oh and also you playing up 'weeks of discussion' just proves you weren't there, that shit went on for 1 year plus in some form or another.
>>112865689WTF! I actually likes Nerissa anon in /JP/ ! are you kidding?
>>112865689>Actually believing they're not the same moneyCome on Scott
>>112865420Nta but the issue with that is that there is no meat behind the "hololive bad" narrative, the opposite is true even, just in the same way that no matter how many times someone says "woke games are good for you" no one but a handful of retards buy them. If e-celebs for some reason decide it's a good idea to drink the niji cool aid and talk shit about holo they will just tank their rep so it makes no sense for them to do it, maybe they could be paid by anykara but it's not worth it, literally whos could try it but again nobody knows them so they don't matter.At most they could be annoying but not a real threat.
>>112863983Not anymore.
>>112865515especially after the recent deme drama... yeah...
>Got a 24 and a box of doritos.I'm ready for Gigi.
>>112865681>mindbrokennice
>>112865683The degrees of actual harassment were higher back then but everyone were in agreement that chinks were subhuman for doing those. Things aren't so simple recently because bad actors boosts opinions that holos were all criminals and evil for "not enough consideration" and they deserves every hate they receives and should quit or be disbanded.
>miko slander for a whole -40k subs didn't work? back to brotherposting I guessyawn
>>112865715I don't believe anything, I know everything. You should know this by now.
>>112865467but enough about rabbit leech always leeching off of males lol
>>112865683still remember the chinks using bunch of bot script spamming chats and shit, holoCN mem going rogueit was absolutely insane, now that was real drama, all this laplus doesn't mean shit compare to that
>>112865606>anycolor is burning away money without any returnsI'm just gonna say that someone has to pay for the bots and the gift cards for the trolls.
>>112865492it's a known fact that noupagpag actually watches nijihomos of course it would know which one is which lol nousanji not beating the allegations
>>112865702There were no discussion, just months of harassments.Anyone talking about it just went like this>Why is this happening?>She said Taiwan is a country or something and chinks didn't like that>oh ok
>>112865820I almost miss the raw hatred and murderous intent from chinks. Sisters just attempt to rile up normalfags over nothing.
>>112865750Think shes going to stick to one drink? I want her to argue asexual after babbling on about how often she goons to fujoslop. could be funny
Reminder the chinkyab made it clear that the only asians that matter are the Japanese who are basically white
>>112865873This and the Japanese have made it clear that they want Cover to die.
>>112865838>Anycolor reported billions of yen of losses from "unsold stocks">most of their merchs are probably preorders>they weren't writing off inventory, they were actually spending billions on botsOH SHIT I THINK I GOT IT
