good morning guys

>>112891721
Good morning. What’s on the menu today

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Am I allowed to lewd? Am I allowed to rape? Am I allowed to anal?

>>112891789
No
Yes
No

I think I’m falling in love with a girl I commissioned to draw pillow. I’m thinking of excuses to talk to her more. It’s over

>>112891933
You're just a client to her. Trust me I have experience

>>112891990
She called me a sweetheart though… talking to girls feels really nice. Why must they play with my emotions like this?
>spoiler
You make me curious. You can share if you’d like.

>>112892251
Piwwo she wasn't playing with your emotions she was being nice, did you expect her to say "What up faggot? Got a commission for me?"

>>112892285
I think women should consider that it may be a sensitive young man that they are speaking to, and not use such endearing language so flippantly.

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If previous baker has gone MIA I can go back to baking next thread. Thread rules BTW:

>>112892384
Next time tell her your interspecies sex and do not identify as "sweetheart"

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>>112892251
>sweetheart
Might be a regional thing but all across the USA I've been called that along with stuff like "baby", "boo", and "love." That's just being nice for women.
>You can share if you’d like
This was before I was a piwwo. I needed assets for my nsfw game. She would say shit like "I like hearing how you find my art sexy" and "hope you enjoy this later ;)" and other flirtatious sexual statements and she sometimes sent faceless selfies. We'd talk about all kinds of intimate stuff, but she was e-dating someone the whole time. She was just freaky.

>>112892693
That sounds more than just being nice

Has she retweeted any tranny Jax art yet?

>>112893539
It's a tranny show piwwo

>>112893539
I haven't checked twitter in over a week.

>>112893562
Yeah but there’s a ton of art depicting Jax as a girl on X and it’s interesting if she hasn’t reposted any of it is all

>>112893738
Maybe she's scared of upsetting some retard

https://www.youtube.com/live/BT6r1uLlKS4
No-talking Splatoon stream now

>>112893905
Great.

Why is this board so fast wtf

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pill has some insane friends desu
https://x.com/i/status/2068885554322944342

>>112895021
Prime shitposting in the catalog

>>112893562
it's TUMBLR sexymen show there's a difference

>>112893905
I would Splatoon all over her if you catch my drift

>>112895745
It's made by one is what I mean

Pillow is still going but with a new stream now
https://www.youtube.com/live/WJev0C6umRw

>>112895724
The griftiest grifter to ever grift.
That being said, I would buy pregnant Pillow merch in a heartbeat..

>>112895818
Another member stream I get to miss fucking sweet.

>>112895896
She's not even talking you're not missing much

>>112895896
you're not missing much but she is playing with piwwos now

>>112895855
But Piwwo, she’s only in middle school

>>112895855
How is it different to any other VTuber selling weird embarrassing merch

>>112895855
I think it's fun and doesn't hurt anyone, but I admit preggo milf pill art would be cute...

>>112895924
nta but I should just quit my job and be unemployed so I don’t always miss these fuck this.

>>112895997
Just work from home

>>112895951
>>112895979
I don’t mind the concept but do your reps on Alias. I don’t wanna get into it too much here but her shit is the fakest gfe I’ve ever seen. Hell, just take a look at the prices of her Patreon tiers.

>>112895925
that's the best part! TuT

>>112895997
it hurts especially when she insinuates she misses piwwo who wandered away
like FUCK I'M AM TRYING TO SURVIVE

>>112896047
really can't be worse than any other gfetubers

>>112896047
>her shit is the fakest gfe I’ve ever seen
What do you think GFE is you retard

>>112896023
not everyone can work from home you know

>>112896140
Yeah I was being flippant

>>112896135
I’m familiar with the concept fag.
I suppose ‘forced’ would be a better term. Most girls do gfe because it’s fun roleplay that both parties enjoy and that the girl benefits financially from. For Alias, it’s literally like clocking into work for her. I can’t really put it into words but I’m sure you’d get the same vibe if you’ve seen as much of her stuff as I have.

>>112896209
>For Alias, it’s literally like clocking into work for her
sounds like Nene for past two years

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we are not getting VR chat with actual piwwos any time soon right

>>112896209
Are you saying that she's a grifter because she doesn't enjoy her job? I don't enjoy my job. Most people don't.

>>112896234
I’m not an avid fan of hers but Nene clearly enjoys and is passionate about vtubing judging by how much she’s invested into it since going indie.

>>112896264
I don't care for them. I just wanna talk to her again.

>>112896264
I'm more hopeful, now that she's debuted her 3D model I would think she'd want to do stuff with it.

>>112896264
If it’s on stream, she’ll have to hire staff for it again like she did last time. Pillow doesn’t let her mods be in charge of on stream events like that anymore. She mentioned wanting to do something off stream, so that would likely happen through discord. Though, if that happens, I doubt it would be an official event rather than just a random, unplanned urge to play VRChat with Piwwos

>>112896272
I’d say the bigger sign of her being a grifter is the constant merch drops and the paywalling of 50% of her content behind egregious Patreon tiers.

>>112896370
I don't see what's dishonest about that

>>112896345
>likely happen through discord
you lost me here

>>112896401
More for me then

>>112896370
>constant merch drops
not that different from nene
>egregious Patreon tiers
it's 20 dollars for most stuff

>>112896428
don't be smug about your dcord kitty status

>>112896463
Discord's an awful platform and the piwwo servers are embarrassing but I'm not above using it to interact with Pillow

There’s a ton about Alias that lets you know she doesn’t care about GFE and she’s only in it for the money. I remember looking up “dicks” in her account using Twitter’s search function and she has countless mentions about sucking and fucking random guys. She used to be a sexpest for male VTubers, always replying to them unprompted with sexual remarks. She’s also a huge fan of NTR, so she’s probably still fucking random guys in her real life while getting off the feeling of cucking her fans. She has 3 different accounts as far as I know (Alias Anono, Hani Hanwoo, and Haewon The Heartstring) and all of them have exclusive content and merch. She has no issue whatsoever making her paypigs pay thrice for her merch and content so she can maximize profit. There’s no way an actual slut like her actually believes in GFE in the slightest, she’s the most open grifter out there

>>112896505
>getting your computer infected by glowie spyware
nothing to gloat about it, pill avoids is using it as well

>>112896399
>>112896440
Again I don’t wanna get too into it, but if you want some more context you can look up Haewon in the archives, her pl.
I won’t keep trying to convince you. I doubt you’re planning on becoming booquets anytime soon and I trust my own judgement so there’s no point.

>>112896520
Why would Pillow be friends with a woman like this?

>>112896520(me)
>>112896545
There’s a reason why her nickname is Whorewon

>>112896542
How do you think Pillow communicates with all of her vtuber friends daily?

>>112896520
she's a whore and I'm aware, she doesn't really hide her slut tendencies, her Patreon has NTR streams as well, but anyone listening to her average stream should understand as much, so there really isn't much of a surprise.

In general I don't think any women can compare to Pillowdear when it comes to integrity and purity if that's what you're implying.

>>112896571
twitter DMs and telepathy

>>112896520
Her personal life aside unless she actually swindled people out of their money I don't care about any of this and the "grifter" accusation is retarded
>believes in GFE
lol

>>112896520
you probably can say nearly the same word for word for all rplay/onlyfans pill friends
we know pill doesn't discriminate, I could redpill you on how zenya is actually massive grifter as well, but I doubt anyone would care

>>112896520
None of this is wrong.
Even my oshi is unfortunately good friends with Alias despite my oshi being really cute and pure. And I'm just a guest here, not a piwwo.

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>>112896616
at least we can agree that pillow is unique girl in her field

>>112896616
Nigga we’re gossiping in a 4chan thread. If we actually convinced you that she was a grifter would you do something about? Obviously not, so why quibble?

>>112896715
Because this is a discussion board and I'm discussing something that was brought up

>>112896658
>I could redpill you on how zenya is actually massive grifter as well, but I doubt anyone would care
redpill me I'm curious

>>112896728
There’s better things to discuss than semantics.

>>112896785
That's great I'm gonna use that whenever someone disagrees with something I say

Would you consider making a Discord account for the potential to maybe have a meet and greet with Pillow

>>112896968
If I didn't already have an account yes of course
It's so precious to be able to speak with her one-to-one like that

>>112896968
doesn't she announce her con appearances on twitter? wdym

>>112896074
This is what really cuts me deep, she could do member streams in the evening occasionally to see more piwwos.

>>112896940
You don’t even understand what I’m referring to do you?

>>112896968
probably not because I'm old chud that gets too embarrassed, idk what I could even say to her besides of platitudes

>>112897017
That I'm discussing the use of the word "grifter"
Bored now

>>112897005
She used to do meet and greets in her Discord server, she’s done three since 2024. Now that the server is unofficial and she’s not the owner anymore, it’s not clear what’ll happen to the meet and greets

olive should join her in Splatoon would be fun

>>112897031
Get some confidence and just tell her what you think man, she'll appreciate it. I just told her how much I admired her for how far she's come and how hard she works to make us happy. If you get the opportunity you'll regret not taking it. You don't need to have your camera on.

>>112897012
She knows most people aren't going to be able to catch them live, that's why she specifies that she won't be talking/reading chat. She wants to minimize fomo.

>>112897050
I don't think they are happening if she doesn't post on server anymore

>>112897113
I guess she's trying but damn it still sucks ass when she does these streams and actually talks and stuff.

>>112896658
>zenya
>massive grifter
qrd? i wanted to donate to her donothon because i respect vtubers who don't do top 10 ranking FOMO and the rewards are nice. i've seen her fans say she lowered the prices compared to her previous donothon too which is the opposite of what everyone does. i won't dono if you're convincing

>>112897012
Well nobody tells that they would like some membas streams in the evening.

>>112897358
NTA but I don't respect anyone who's ever done a donothon if they aren't for charities.

>>112897416
Yeah I get that but unless there was enough piwwos it would be a waste of time.

>>112897358
Zenya fills the void that Pillow leaves so she's good in my book IDK what other fags have against her

Going back to the pregnancy thing, I just came across this artist with a nice style who's done a bunch of pregnancy commissions.
https://x.com/pochamastudios/status/1943382079397335315
Cute stuff, maybe you guys would like something similar for Pillow.

fake personality, fake voice, and her old model literally sounded like a discount fat tranny. shamelessly panders to lolicons for cash and doesn't even try to hide it, it's genuinely embarrassing to watch. her r-play content is mid at best and way overpriced for what you actually get, not even close to worth it. and then the recent IRL pics come out and she's packing on weight again. who is actually paying for any of this is beyond me.

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>>112897574
>she's packing on weight again.

>>112897504
somehow preggo pill sounds more degenerate than that cunny pill commission kek
also wouldn't that be a bit insensitive? considering pill medical condition and all...

>>112897574
>Shamelessly panders to lolicons for cash
You clearly just don't like her because she's trying to appeal to her audience but it's laughable to think that you make more money by appealing to a niche fetish instead of having massive tits.

>>112897504
Do it.

>>112897609
i'm a bit autistic but how is it insensitive?

Everything I’ve seen about Zenya has been really positive so far so I’m not sure where the shitting on her is coming from. She’s dedicated to her Pengoons, stays drama free, has no yabs, and also doesn’t have a PL. I think she’s comparable to Pillow in a couple of ways except that Zenya just engages in lewd content for her fans and is somehow a bigger crybaby than Pillow. I haven’t seen anything from her that’s actually bad

>>112897609
>preggo pill sounds sexier than that cunny pill commission
I agree!

>>112897609
what about preggo cunny pill before i end it all

>>112897609
>also wouldn't that be a bit insensitive? considering pill medical condition and all...
That's my worry, not just because of her health issues but also that she said she doesn't want kids.

>>112896599
I could tell how fake and gay she was from just casual ASMR perusal, I feel really bad for any guy who legitimately gets swindled by her. Pillow used to chastise Piwwos for requesting triggers with supas, Alias frequently demands money from her paypigs.

>>112897236
unfortunately there's always someone who will miss it, she can't be live 24/7...

>>112897629
Lots of guys on this site hate cunny chuubas for no reason. Of course they're "fake", it's kayfabe.

>>112896686
True!

>>112897672
>I feel really bad for any guy who legitimately gets swindled by her
I don't feel bad for any adult who chooses to give his money to GFE VTubers, Pillow included. They know the deal.

>>112896968
Is it possible to do meet and greets some other way?

>>112897728
Pillow loves Piwwos with all of her heart and deserves infinite money. Alias is a whore.

>>112897616
>instead of having massive tits
ironic considering she's pushing her garbage fat tit model as well recently

>>112897749
I mean, there are conventions. You just have to hope she’s at one close to you or that you can afford to attend. Discord was the most convenient way up until recently though

>>112897749
She's probably not doing Discord M&Gs anymore, she mentioned that it'd be complicated since she wouldn't do it on the Piwwocord. She'll probably stick to silly VR hangouts like her last VR M&G.

>>112897672
i'm not speaking for everyone here but i know some people feel good just by giving because it satisfies their desire to provide.

>>112897667
we are her kids we you place piwwo in baby position it could be perceived as cute and comedic

>>112897695
Yeah I know still sucks regardless.

>>112897780
>>112897784
Sorry I meant some other way that doesn't require you to physically be there. VR hangouts would make the most sense.

>>112897822
I don’t recall all the details about how the last VR hangout was made, but I’m sure you didn’t need a discord account, just a VRChat account. The problem with this is that Pillow hires staff for these hangouts rather than letting her mods be in charge so she’ll some funding

>>112897759
maybe pill should stop associating with fansly lewduber whores in general? but I see majority of piwwo /here/ are cheating whores themselves

Unfortunately she's too big to do anything too personal since she would feel bad about making it paid or something, but things like her fishing stream will be common, opportunities to hang out with her online and interact a bit.

I did the last VRChat thing but won't bother again if it's another streamed one with piwwo mics off. I'll consider it if we can talk but even then I don't think I want to interact with other piwwos like that lol

>>112897859
It's gross to think that Pillow should be expected to patrol who she is friends with like that. There are lots of whore vtubers, and that's their business. She is not one of them.

>>112897859
when the horse is out of the stable it's time for some hay and it's pillow's fault for not providing the hay when the horses get hungry

>>112897856(me)
She had the staff handle everything while she was streaming. Once staff was done with their work, Pillow was still hanging out with Piwwos after stream. I’m guessing Pillow might be open to the idea of doing off stream events like that, but I’m not sure how she’d go about organizing and announcing it. Twitter announcement could bring in randoms, and Discord would exclude several Piwwos

>>112897869
if I hear a guy talk I'm muting a stream
you can say it's unicorn autism, but it just ruins illusion of piwwo being cute mascot and I'm forced to confront the reality that takes me out of my pill gachi fantasies

>>112897894
pill has never provided and will never provide "hay"

>>112897865
>have too many fans, limits your options
>don't want to make it paid to lower the numbers
i feel for her, it's such a delicate thing to balance. especially since some people are probably eager to criticize her if it comes off bad when the only realistic thing to do here is just having a paywall if you don't want her spending all her time on things like this.

>>112897886
Yes, Pillow's a grown woman who can decide for herself who she associates with. It's worth remembering that she knows Alias better than any of us do.

>>112897902
>Pillow was still hanging out with Piwwos after stream
Did piwwos keep their mics off until she left?

>>112897925
I wouldn't mind if the other piwwos were cool or my friends but most of them aren't lol

>>112897947
then it's out of her hands when piwwos venture off looking

>>112896234
>>112896312
Do not insult my oshi. Nene's GFE isn't like most, where it's over performative and blatant. It's more subtle and implied. Few stay as dedicated to vtubing and their fans like Nene, especially in EN indies. tl;dr I'm sorry she's not waving flags and titling everything "girlfriend x" and "grilfriend that". Because you lack any ability to discern nuance and subtlety.

>>112897963
Yes, Piwwos kept their mic off the entire time Pillow was present. Once she felt, several turned their mics on

>>112897963
>most of them aren't lol
exactly, it's either kids, trannies, autists or real pedo freaks

>>112897985
cope, she goes through the triggers like it's a list and keeps rehashing old content
without new eechi model debuts every month she would have long descended into irrelevancy, not even her chud game reviewer arc seemed genuine

>>112897859
>>112897886
I love how when I come to this thread it's you assholes calling her friends whores and other just untrue and deroagtive remarks about their character. How the fuck do you assholes even know this stuff? You faggots are a bunch of cheaters.

>>112897986
I imagine it's also for safety don't want any piwwo to randomly should slurs on livestream

>>112898056
Yeah imagine Pillow seeing piwwos talk about her friends like this lol

>>112898069
He's talking about after the stream ended, piwwos stayed muted out of respect for Pillow

>>112898037
You're talking out your ass then. Nene does rotate out her triggers and mics she's using. Sure she could RP more, but she already said, for her ASMR is about the audio quality and triggers. Also, her game review arc was genuine, she'd try a game until she beat it or quit and would write a review if she felt she had anything worth saying. That's perfectly fine you funless cunt. Why are you Piwwos such assholes, actually. And it's been this way, I've yelled at you guys before for being total dicks, you do this shit for fun thinking you're proping up your oshi. Is Pillow even your oshi or just a cudgel to bash other vtubers with???

>>112898069
That's why she never streams anything with any form of chat function, you can tell she even got nervous turning on chat on the fishing server. She gets a lot of anxiety about that sort of thing ever happening to her.

For me the big titty Tenshi is a ok

>>112898118
I was defending your oshi bro

>>112898128
and because of her caution she had no yabs 3 years straight
that's impressive

>>112898136
coomer

>>112898118
no one can live up to Pillow Christ kek

>>112898172
Given how you guys act, you're probably why she doesn't.

>>112898193
Yes and?

I'm gonna fap to Nene and her huge angel tits and no one can stop me!

Can we stop talking about other VTubers now

>>112898339
You let the thread I baked die so no fuck you

>>112898339
You don't deserve better cause you're all assholes. Why not focus on Pillow instead of dragging her friends? Simple idea really

>>112898427
I’m having Déjà vu
You’re not real cloudtomo

>>112898398
I was asleep

>>112898427
Hey don't lump me in with them

>>112898446
He's obviously that retard that starts fight for no reason

>>112898427
melty much? don't be so sensitive over harmless banter

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>>112896686
I still need pillow feetsies on my face

>>112898630
There's a lot of Skeb artists I want to request at some point, I'll try to make it happen piwwo

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>>112898710
thank you

>>112898882
Still can't get over this, who knew she had it in her

Pillow still hasn’t announced any of her events at Offkai besides Surge. It’s only a month away.

>>112899138
She won't have much stuff since she's not an official guest this year, unfortunately.

>>112899214
>since she's not an official guest this year
is there a reason for this?

>>112899262
Nobody can be an official guest 2 years in a row. So she can be official guest next year, but not this year since she was an official guest last year

>>112899214
The only two events that she got from being an official guest last year were the panel and the 1 min M&G, which were the least remarkable of her appearances.
I assume she’ll be doing some stuff with kawa, but she hasn’t even hinted at anything she’ll be doing there. Not even any mention of robot time. I’m wondering if it’s because she can’t afford renting out a slot, in which case she should tell us because that’s something piwwos would be more than okay with paying for.

>>112899303
If it's money issue she will not bring it up unprompted

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Pillow pantyhose

>>112899800
uoh

>>112899800
The pantyhose is very hot so I requested something on Skeb that I think you'll like

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>>112899800
My daughter wife shouldn't be exposing her pantihose like that

puppydear doko

>>112900676
All in due time piwwo

I should take a bunch of screenshots from the recent streams and post them eventually

Thinking about Pillow’s pretty and pink little toes

Pillow should stream while she’s taking a bath

I want to hear Pillow undress during an ASMR stream one day

>>112899138
https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/2069219399723032589
interdasting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v5VwTf9yA4&t=1s

I want to bury my face in Pillow’s armpit. What do you think she smells like, both washed and unwashed?

>>112906483
Like rancid garlic when she's unwashed during a hot, american summer day(s)
We need to innocently ask about her regular soap/body wash to get a better sense of she clean pit smell

>>112906483
I wanna imagine she puts on deodorant

>>112912841
I do too but that would also ruin the taste

>>112913529
Then lick her after the shower lol

Putting chemicals in her water to make her boobs bigger

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>>112914034
Piwwo...she's immune to breast growth

Stream elements is anonymous right? Like Pillow won't know who sent her a funny donation message?

>>112914794
Technically she can go look at the receipt to see the paypal account name

>>112914818
Fug ok there goes my cheeky plan

>>112914870
I donated to her and only was informed about it after
a bit embarrassing

>>112915054
My condolences piwwo

>>112915054
Why

I think she deserves so much love from us

>>112915655
I better do something because she probably thinks I've left her.

>>112915655
She deserves more than that

Oh boy here we go

I think I deserve so much love from her

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Is this Jax-Pomni ship art?

>>112916965
kys tranny

>>112917019
What the fuck are you talking about you retard
I'm asking about something that Pillow reposted

>>112916166
I feel I get a decent amount of love and wanting more would be excessive in my case

All I need is more cuddling.

>>112915655
I’m trying to turn my life around for her and hopefully I’ll be in a position where I can properly support her in the future. I was just fine being bottom of the barrel garbage and barely making enough money to even feed myself, but I’m trying to change that because of her

>>112897869
Pretty much what >>112897925 said.
I dont want to hear a hank hill ass sounding piwwo

>>112917417
You wanna hear the tranny ones instead right?

>>112917494
just pill is enough

Elbow dropping Pillow into a bed of rusty nails

lovingly making out with pillow in a comfy bed

Please God just a tiny peak of Pillow tummy I beg you

>>112919520
Find it hard to imagine she'll put anything other than her hands on camera again

I just want another peek at her thin thighs in short shorts

I just wanna taste of her natural garlicky lemonade

>>112919937
Tummy IRL is a pipe dream... I'm just asking for tummy on an alt outfit on her model.

Is she gonna kill the ender dragon today?

>>112920563
Maybe?

>>112921585
Do you even care?

>>112921980
I'm not watching for her elite MC skills, sorry Olive.

>>112921980
Not really no, her stream starts before I leave work and honestly I have more important things to attend to after work.

pil

I love her

Guys? Are we enjoying the stream?

>>112925350
I slept for the first 20 mins or so, but it's fun. Playing MC alongside her.

>>112925350
I'll watch the VOD
it's pain being an euro

>>112925350
Finally might be able to sit and watch

Pillow is bringing new life into the world right now

>>112925896
pillow is too young for that!

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>>112923593
swimsuit + randoseru is undefeated

Pretty chill stream it's nice to have her yapping in the background when I play games

How do you guys watch Pillow without thinking about touching her constantly.

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World Cup USA Pillow doodle heavily inspired off Chida Junsei's drawings on Twitter. Was planning on doing Billow and Willow for Canada and Mexico, respectively.

>>112928408
Who says I’m not constantly thinking about touching her?

>>112928542
There’s a USA bikini trend that’s been going around for the World Cup and 4th of July is coming up if you want to go for it

>>112928542
Hyper bimbo Canadian Billow and Big Ass Latina Willow
I'm liking this canon

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Getting your dick stuck in Pillows pillows

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>>112929218
Imagine if Pillow went all out and had tits that big on her next model

>>112928560
I haven't seen that. Not to keen on judt jumping on trends to jump on them. If I do them, I want to be able to have a fun spin on them (or if they're hot). I'll keep it in mind.
>>112928841
Lol thank you. Forgot to ask, any other Pillowverse characters I should draw (with country)?

>>112929419
israeli olive

I don't play minecraft but do you normally just enter the boss arena without spatial awareness? She didn't look around at all.

>>112930014
no, most people immediately rush to get off the obsidian platform because this is a known thing that can happen

>>112930014
in fairness I dont think anyone told her that the dragon can just fly through the map in 1.0

>>112930092
Everyone who has played as long as she has would know and even assume it for the latest updates. She just got unlucky and didn't play it that well to be honest

>>112929315
DFC and stacked Pillow both feel right. Anything in-between is wrong.

I want Pillow to spit in my mouth

>>112932293
That skirt twirl makes me want to do things to her.

Gonna get some soundcore sleep buds and enjoy piwwow in bed!

>>112934405
What the fuck is a piwwow?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v5VwTf9yA4&t=1s

>>112926565
Holy sex

>>112934423
I know you're ESL so this will be hard to explain but at the 'wow' in 'piwwow' isn't meant to be read as a hard W sound. It's just a sharper "oh" like you would say in "woah", the phonetics are exactly the same.

>>112936468
Shut up, Piller

>>112936468
Her name is "Pillow" and her fans are called "piwwos". She has never spelled either as "piwwow".

>>112936666
>spelled
You don't watch streams, she literally says "piwwow" verbatim all the time when slurring her words.

>>112936759
https://x.com/search?q=(piwwow%20OR%20piwwows)%20(from%3ApillowdearASMR%20OR%20from%3APillowHoney)&f=live&src=typed_query

>>112936759
YOU don’t watch streams, she’s literally seen people spelling it as Piwwow in chat and corrected them, several times.

>>112936468
wowschizo...

>>112936862
maybe she should stop pretending to speak like mentally challenged child then

>>112937684
Don't take shots at Pillow just because you're embarrassed about being completely wrong lol

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>>112937684
Gave up just like that, huh

Her recent 3D streams have me feeling a little lovesick this week

>>112939216
I feel that she's a bit too worried about losing piwwos so she's trying extra hard to try and keep the ones on the cusp of leaving

>>112939343
She must've known that doubling down on self-infantilisation was going to lose a few people

>>112939450
Yeah that didn't help, but I'm sure they'll come back if she gets a different model

I enjoy Pillow being a baby so long as she doesn't shy away from being lovey dovey towards us due to it.

>>112939756
I dunno the voice and baby talk is starting to really bother me

>>112939821
idk I already enjoyed loli so it wasn't an issue to me. Only real issue that I can see is if it leads her to be more emotionally superficial

>>112939756
I genuinely think she tried shying away with her "friend" asmrs only to realize that piwwos would just go watch actual gfe girls instead of her

>>112937684
You folded so easily

>>112940010
It’s possible that she feels a bit uncomfortable with the wife/girlfriend bit, but realized that if she ever wants to get away from it that it would need to be a big official decision instead of a gradual thing

>>112940050
I don't really understand why she would be uncomfortable now since her yandere days were more intimate and lovey dovey, although maybe being a literal child now I can see that since it made me super uncomfortable in the beginning too

>>112940010
I don't really think so she was still saying that she loved piwwos in the streams prior to that ASMR. I think she just felt she needed to do a themed ASMR that in line with 'schoolgirl pillow' for the first ASMR after debut and so that's what she landed on.

>>112940010
I don't know if that's true, but it would probably suck for her if she thought that piwwos were watching her not because she works hard and is good at her job but just because she's a way for them to stave off loneliness

>>112940166
she started out doing ASMR, she knows this is a big chunk of her audience.

>>112940166
>good at her job
What exactly do you think her job is? Being a minecraft streamer? People do this shit with every GFE streamer where they act like enjoying them for their most appealing trait makes you a bad fan or something and it's fucking retarded.

>>112940166
I originally only watched because I wanted to date her, but now I’m chilling out on that and just really enjoy hanging out with her. She’s fun to spend time with.

>>112940272
There’s quite a few vtuber girls that make it very clear they have no interest in their audience. She could transition to that if she wanted to, though I don’t think she does

>>112940106
You must also keep in mind she is a mentally ill woman. What she believed or felt even 2 hours ago isn't what she believes now.

>>112940200
>>112940272
It would be easy for her to phone it in. She could just do the same GFE ASMR stream every night with a few handcams here and there and I think most piwwos would be satisfied, but she doesn't do that. She goes out of her way to do stuff that's different and fun and can bring in new fans. I think it would be sad if she thought that all of that effort ultimately amounted to nothing and she could've just been a slop factory for lonely unappreciative faggots.

>>112940142
Ah that makes more sense
>>112940166
I'm pretty sure she is well aware that many piwwos are watching her that reason

Yeesh that bait is bad

>>112940648
This is how a gay man posts

This faggot is mad his bait attempt failed lol

>>112940718
Yes when you have no argument just call it bait

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>>112940718
Which post is bait but failed? All I see is bait that was successfully bitten.

>>112940823
Something about saying our oshi and her accomplishments are meaningless because piwwos only allegedly enjoy asmr slop

>>112940852
So you didn't even read it or understand the point I was making

GFE isn't either or. It's something that enhances everything, because loving someone makes everything they do more appealing.

>>112940871
I read it and my understanding is you dislike the asmr and you hate the fact that piwwos enjoy it because they're all lonely unappreciative faggots

>>112940878
It doesn't just enhance though. Many piwwos by their own admission would completely lose interest in her if she stopped doing it.

>>112940907
Then you're retarded because I didn't say either of those things.

>>112940917
Ok retard your post is still here >>112940501
Feel free to re-read it anytime

>>112940935
Please quote the parts where I say that I dislike the ASMR and I hate the fact that piwwos enjoy it.

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>Streamer is a streamer
>They stop streaming
>Fans leave
>Oh my god why did they leave???
Hmmm it's a mystery alright.

>>112940980
You don't really understand what we're talking about do you

>>112940917
>Many piwwos by their own admission would completely lose interest in her if she stopped doing it.
No shit. Even putting the theoretical entertainment potential of a GFE-less Pillow aside, it would be torture to continue hanging out with someone that broke up with you.

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>edition 102742 of drama that started because one side can't or doesn't want to read posts correctly

>>112941038
Sure, but that's the sad part. How many piwwos only like watching her because they see her that way? How successful would she be by her talent and hard work alone?

>>112941026
Ok let me reiterate so your dumbass can comprehend.
>GFE vtuber does GFE content
>Fans enjoy said content
>vtuber stop doing GFE content
>Fans leave
>Why are my fans leaving???
Hmmm maybe because they signed up for GFE content and it's being put aside for content they didn't sign up for.

>>112941092
What's your point? Everybody understands this; it's what we're discussing. What do you think you're adding to the conversation?

>>112941062
Yes I’m sure she’d be successful utilizing any one of her unique talents such as…. um….. uh…….
Guys, help me out here.

>>112941142
She can sing song covers really poorly... or wait she can play pretend and act like a child! No other woman can do that.

>>112941142
She's cute and charming but those are things that you pair with being parasocial.

>>112941142
Who said "unique"? She's good at a bunch of stuff, most notably drawing but also doing voices and improvisational acting.

>>112941142
Well drawing is one her talents so there's that
>>112941167
>No other woman can do that.
Sadly that seems all to common nowadays

>>112941167
She can make killer macaroni art. Don’t forget that.

It feels really mean spirited to point at pillow and laugh and say she has nothing going for her

>>112941415
You wanted to go down this road

So yes as was my original point some piwwos think she's not good at anything and she probably wouldn't feel good if she knew that.

>>112941415
They think it's okay because they "love" her (they say). If you love someone you find value in everything they do.

>>112941415
She has drawing and slight improv. And neither is particularly that crazy amazing (she's good but not "this is my career" good). It's just light ribbing. Don't take it too seriously.

>>112941415
For me, the only thing that’s hard carried by GFE is her ASMR. The quality isn’t the best which is a shame since it’s what she’s been doing since the start of her channel. Other than that, I can say that she’s talented at several other things and hard working. Singing isn’t her strong point, but she has a coach for a while and she’s constantly practicing and putting herself out there in concerts. She’s trying to become a skilled singer. Pillow’s also drew all of her own models, so she’s good enough to draw models in her own art style. She dislikes doing detailed renders, but she could definitely do them if she took the time to try. She’s a skilled entertainer, there’s hardly any times during streams where there’s dead silence since she’s always engaging with her chat. There’s also her voice acting potential, she has enough control of her voice to make her sound like a completely different person. She has the improv skills to make up a storyline for an hour or longer based on an idea that she thought up but didn’t script anything for. Pillow has so much more going on for her than GFE, but it feels like anons here are just dog piling on her now

>>112941167
>wait she can play pretend and act like a child
that's good enough for me TuT

>>112941415
I love my special needs girlfriend (affectionate)

>>112941557
>For me, the only thing that’s hard carried by GFE is her ASMR. The quality isn’t the best which is a shame since it’s what she’s been doing since the start of her channel.
When she does something creative and different instead of the usual GFE stuff, it often is good, as someone who's listened to a lot of ASMR.

>>112941557
>singing coach
Didn't she stop seeing him because she couldn't keep paying? Or was that /piwwo/ fake news?
>dog piling
I don't know but the skills you mentioned are all things anyone with >90 IQ can do, except for drawing. Her voice acting isn't all the impressive either. It is just pitch shifting, but the actual performance isn't anything to write home about. Anyone can do a deep or high voice, but playing a character is more than that.

>>112941441
>If you love someone you find value in everything they do.
Another ridiculous assertion you could only believe if you’ve never been in a relationship.

>>112941674
Maybe but it sounds romantic doesn't it lol

>>112941693
Not really. NTA but it isn't romantic at all to love everything about someone and make everything about them a positive. As an example, see Pillow's reply guys on any of her posts. It's pathetic and doesn't respect her as a woman.

>>112941746
Well I don't mean like that. You can find positives in things while acknowledging their flaws.