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>mori doompostingholofags? your cope?
>AnimeNYC 3D concert flopping>Mori already suspecting EN won't get another full concertimagine how grim 2026 looks compared to 2025, anons would have called you a shitposting nijifag back then
>>112905708Qrd? I didn't see any post about it
>>112905796towa has liveposting of her dooming out of her mind
ENRECO S1 - 2.2 MILLION VIEWS (Bot mania)ENRECO S2 - 8 MILLION VIEWS (King engine era)ENRECO S3 - 3.9 MILLION VIEWS
BAU BAU
>>112905708where?
>>112905796She's mostly talking about the concept of change, and of what girls want to do.
>>112905773Given the CCV, I'm not the only one who doesn't watch this shit
>>112905815grim.....
>>112905795Nice crying dipshit now watch as Kiara rapes the entire Nijiphasebox several times over
>>112905820Oh wow, pretty high numbers for FWMC after not streaming for awhile. Good on them.
>>112905820idk what you expected this is a terrible timeslot for JP
>>112905829You missing out. The dudes talked about gangbanging one of the girls
>>112905820Uhhh ruffians???
>>112905690That sounds like cope. HoloEN just 2 years ago would've been able to sell out the same concert in matter of hours
>"I don't think they want anyone to go"
>Mori is open to the idea of UMJ buying her IP and leaving Hololivegrim
>>112905854>>112905882
No one post mori members number?
>>112905795Can you tell me why I as business owner would ever plan to set up a concert in burgerland while the orange retard is still in chair?Every single thing is sky high costly, flights are costly because of the stupid war with Iran, there is always a possibility that your visa might get rejected, lower security than actual third world country, fucking shit ton of tax on stupid things I would rather have en concert in Japan or fucking Taiwan until that turd is in power
>>112905821https://youtu.be/6mNg_sjtnHk
>>112905882You can't be American, Europeans are already asleep, so I know what you are
Mori is doing something with Liz.
Oh my fucking God these people are just trying to guess what Mori's saying off the posts in Tower and /morig/It's Chinese whispers off Chinese whispers
>>112905866Im sure someone will clip it or something.
>cover really wants mori to stay>she realized she has more power than she thought >plans to use her power for good to hopefully change some things behind the scenes
>>112905890We are making up things now >Mori is saying she will have sex with me this week fuck you all
When are we going to get the next real face of EN?
>>112905677https://pawchive.st/fanbox/user/848240/post/11578025https://pawchive.st/fanbox/user/848240/post/11578025https://pawchive.st/fanbox/user/848240/post/11578025
>newfags thinks its ok to slander her when she carried the fuck out of the branch back then and basically the reason why en is even popular and has an audience now. Without her en would probably be around niji en levels of viewership
>>112905916>expecting anyone to pay for a m*ri membership
>>112905854>>112905936
>>112905708I can't take Mori doomposting seriously since she gets so many opportunities compared to the other girls. Like bitch what could possibly be happening behind the scenes that effects you?
>>112905933Nice English Riona
>>112905913I have been hearing about these secret massive ERB projects for 2 fucking years now WHAT is she doing
>>112905866Oh, is that why Sisters started this thread?
>>112905936I was told FWMC are the face of EN though
>>112905820grim
>>112905957Mori and Kiara genuinely believe that if Serendipity doesn't sell out 100% then there will be no more EN concerts ever which is so genuinely retarded I wonder who ever told them that
Mori spent several minutes schlicking over Ina’s chest being flat
>>112905943>I cant stream>I cant stream>I cant stream>*Flatlines*
>>112905912>Resorted to ad hominemAnd that's how people know you are desperate
>>112905957the thing is Mori just said she has wondered if Universal is interested in buying her rights and that it would be cool if they did
>>112905962Even Mori didn't specify anything. Said she's doing something with Liz (no timeframe given), then changed topic to "where do they find these girls?"
>>112905957Nigga she ain't doomposting
>>112905996Based
>>112905994Clearly they know something you don't, maybe be realistic about the writing on the wall.
>>112905962Nothing, ERB is doing nothing. Not even helping dubai. She joined for the easy money and that's it.>Gigi 2 original songs>Raora 2 original songs>Cecilia 1 original song>CCGG 1 original song>ERB 0 original songs
>>112906023Just Mori and KiaraNot the other 12 which are more than happy with the state of affairs, not even Ina who is also a member of Myth, just Mori and Kiara
>>112906009Liz has basically fauna syndrome. She knows cover will take half of her money. She knows whatever she makes will stay as a hololive brand instead whatever RM name she has. She knows she can't stay in hololive for long. So what can she do? Stay as long as possible while doing the minimum and fuck off with the money because you can passively farm using merch and others hard work while doing the bare minimum
>>112906044Not no Millie
>face of EN>no one here watches herwhat the fuck
>mori and ina still planning to visit kiara in austria
>>112906068Biboo is live and people are watching her tho?
>>112905994Would it really surprise you?Cover is in cost cutting mode, if EN isn't graph only go up, there's no point in botheringLike they said in the report, invest in high-tier talent only like 1st armyThe rest can drown or do their own thing, who cares
>>112906055Technically GG has 3 orisongs, 3 if you want to count CCGG madness
there is no point in time in EN's history they could ever have sold out a July 4th concert management is just retarded for picking a top 3 most debuffed day
>>112906061But she doesn't know how to save holostars...
>>112906008>This faggot is trying to throw his lie in even though just Mori's doompost was already grim enough
>>112905943dead whore kekaroooo
>>112906075grim, they're all planning to join the indie avengers huh
I'm coming to realize that nothing of value has ever been posted in this thread since it's inception
ENs were told at some point "you're probably not going to be able to react to the World Cup"They have to ask for specific days.Their permissions are void if they're not in JapanShe plans to watch at least 1 game before leaving for America.
>>112906078>people are watching her >5kKEK
>mori planning to at least do one world cup watchalong >need to request perms to do a watchalong 5 business days in advance >no perms to do watchalongs while in the usa
>>112906080>Cover is in cost cutting modeYour fucking parasites were not costs as much as they were downright expenses
>>112906111That's literally people watching her, yes
>>112905820AIEEEEEEEEE DELETE THIS
>>112906111>More viewers than NijiRecoRUAMOVox is losing all his fans btw
>>112906111More than the entire nijiEN and phase put together btw
>>112906092I don't think she could have budge that needle even if she did try
>mori is a "its called soccer" girl
>>112906120They LITERALLY said they were focusing on investing in high performing talent instead of spreading shit around now on the report1st army is going to get all the resources (and mori because her music sells), and that's how it should beDon't like it? Don't be a runt shitter
>>112906082You are delusional if you think Holo fans are so patriotic that that matters>B-but the raised priceWould've affected the week around July 4th (i.e 2nd to 7th) the same
>>112905928she's going to try and save the homos isn't she?
I got Algeria 2 - 0 JordanGoals by Gouiri, Aouar>>112906119So what will she watch? A Jap game?
>>112906159>Mori is Americanwhoa!!!!
>>112905815conclusions to be drawn from this?
>>112906159She is correct
>>112906142
>>112906173She could watch USA games while on JapanFive business days means she could ask for Round of 32, which would get her INSANE numbers.
>>112906119>no perms to do watchalongs while in themakes sense xqc just got banned on twitch for watching the world cup
>>112906075during Kiara's hiatus?
>Phase's morale is higher than ever after their successful convention in the US >Holos keep doomposting left, right and center, especially OGs like Kiara and MoriGrim..
>>112906192grim
>>112905820>>112906192what happened to all their members
>>112906166there are few holidays every household celebrates it isn't a matter of patriotism but that everyone does something on that day
>>112906166It's just Holofans themselves dumbass, anything their family does, they'll probably prioritise that. And what other day do families do shit together than 4th of July? Combined with the insane traffic situation and rising hotel prices due to the demand, you it's like one of the worst days to do a concert
>>112906192OOF not looking good deadcucks
>>112906191Re-streaming it? Well no shit, I get that faggot is retarded but that retarded?
>>112906082I think management just wants a reason so they can finally merge the branch to jp. The girls not already living in japan is at risk
>>112906167No. Anything she talks about issues is always about the girls. She might try to save ID either on purpose or accidentally
>>112905854>>112906200
>>112905795EN shouldn't have an annual concert because it reduces FOMO. The resources spent on it would be better used to expand JP's reach abroad.
spoilers
>>112906188Oh so that would probably US Ecuador then, unless Curacao performs a miracle against Ivory Coast
>>112906173Mahrez...
>>112906164Anon we just watched Kiara’s duolive not that long ago. Things look bright for ID. It’s literally JUST holostars because the ONLY people who care about them are virtue signalers and twittards and they finally ran out of other people’s money.
>>112906200surely this time phase will finally become relevant and people will watch them
>>112905943Move on Donie. She's dead.
>>112906221Ina and Kronii visit every month they're fine
>Ami Ami sponsorship backgraduationbeggars in shambles
>>112906221>>112906232HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>112906200>successful conventionnice jork
That was a great movie
>>112906218nah he was watching highlight while france game was on break
>>112906249GG and CC also at this point. Meanwhike you could say that Raora also visits Europe every month
>>112906221ina basically lives in japan at this point she spends like 10/12 months of the year there
>>112906242DUOLIVE being the key wordThey're not giving anyone shit unless it gives them guaranteed money, and they had to smash together Kiara with a decent CCV member to even think about itNot a charity anymoreGet numbers, or get out
>Fwmc raid Biboo>Biboo: HEY FWMC DO YOU WANT TO WATCH DIGITAL CIRCUS?What is this trap?
>>112906255Ina literally never stopped working for AmiAmi, her ambassadorship ran out and EVEN THEN they let her be an ambassador for a solid month after.That angle was always so fucking retarded, it was the peak of a lack of literacy
>>112906111You lost Bibooschizo
Dogs railed Rock
>>112906262I miss the real Fubuki.
>>1129062402 assists
>>112906244Well, they are 2nd EN VTuber group now going by watch hours despite all NijiEN's botting. They are also the first group to successfully carry out their own convention in the West. Several iconic Holofans have been watching Phase like the Viking guy posted last thread.Sound relevant enough
>>112905824>She's mostly talking about the concept of change, and of what girls want to do.Well after several EN graduations it's a little ominous that a year later Mori is still doomposting. Cover will completely torch their reputation if they somehow manage to cause another graduation wave.
>>112905854>>112906277God this image is pure fucking goldLearn your place
>>112906277That is how it has always been retardchama. The only sololive to ever be given away was to make sure Kiara didn't graduate. It has always had to be earned
>>112906284>tranny showyuck
>>112906272Gigi and Cece only has gone to Japan like twice in 6 months. Barely every month. I don't think they'll have any other more trips unless any of them wants to record their 3D birthdays, and between them only CC is probably interested in doing so.
Mori stressing over her thumbnail for [something] because it's in Google Slides.
>>112906262>>112906262I liked it too. It’s based on a Korean original called “save the green planet” that I haven’t seen but looks cool as well
>>112906308Right, meanwhile in reality >>112905854
>>112906159don't bother with the watchalong
>>112906308You can just look at their daily ccv, there is no change for years now.
>>112906236Wait... nevermind. That's the 8th placed 3rd spot
>>112906159Yes she’s from one of the 2 correct countries
>>112906308>They are also the first group to successfully carry out their own convention in the WestWRONG HAHAHAHAHAH that was VShojoGuess where VShojo is now. ALSO>5view streams achieved by the rotten corpse of NijiEN in June: 2>5view streams achieved by Phase Connect throughout their entire history: 2 (Phase Saga debuts)
>>112906333>yuckPhasebro...https://streamable.com/qkmc2e
>>112906308>they are 2nd EN VTuber groupThat Densetsu group?
>>112906159First world countries (USA, Japan) call it soccer
>>112906334gigi said she still has two trips to japan this year one of them will be a long one
SECOND EN VTUBER GROUP BY THE WAY
>>112906159>"its called soccer"Only in two countriesThe first has never won a World Cup, but that's to be expected, it's not its favorite sportThe second hasn't won a World Cup since 1966
>>112906335Oh, the thumbnail was for this.https://youtube.com/watch?v=1nvsguYs3UQ
>>112906376Densetsu has way lower watch hours than Phase
>>112906392Holy mother of GRIM
>mori wants to work with terriblejoes team one day
>>112906396A ton of worthless information to say she is correct
>>112906399TITS
>>112906392The entire Phase Music channel all throughout 3 years of history has 1/3rd the views of Snake Eyes
>>112906392Grim
>>112906330>give it to kanata>make her do literally everything herself and she leaves angry after
>>112906257It's not just Hololive. Any VTuber company that overextends itself with concerts in the West risks running into financial trouble. The market isn't big enough to justify those expectations.
>>112906424He's the Advent guy
>>112906099Almost all info about vtuber pass through this thread regardless which ever spilt it gets posted because this is the unofficial drama thread of this board which is why it is the fastest
>>112906434Just Rock In is beating it...
>>112906426What I'm trying to say is that football doesn't belong to the Bong anymore, now it's called “football and not “sucker.”
>>112906437Why are this whores even covering Kpop they should be singing le epic white nationalism hymn to go with their larp
it is a very concerning sign for the vtuber industry that not a single summer vtuber concert from fantastic reality, oshispark or holo has sold out yet
13M DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LEc7es4_rEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LEc7es4_rEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LEc7es4_rE
I'm going to hell
>>112906464Sorry bro, but its soccer.
>mori wishes she could be a completely 3D vtuber and would do so if she could get all her outfits made into 3D
>>112906440This is why Cover us going to pull backThe returns aren't there, and like Mori said they can just send popular members on a world tour for better results
>>112906478my brother in Christ we are in one worst financial crisis of the decade no one can afford to do anything
If she had the opportunity, Mori would want to be fully 3D over 2D, as long as she can have all of her outfits. She thinks jt fits better with her.
>>112906330>spreading that fake narrative debunked by Kiara in the same stream she talked about itdumb or an anti?
>>112905854>>112906440
>>112906480TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI TEAM TOMODACHI
>>112906491Nu Uh it's football
>>112906503ya she going kson route if she leaves holo
>>112906082I’m shooting off fireworks with the family, I don’t have time for a fucking concert.
>>112906507The live2D shit is niji's fault. Without them, everyone would be in 3D and that would filter out a ton of indies and shit corps from existing
>>112906181The project without bots and 2 missing talents was still able to get more viewership compared to s1 where all talents took part in it
>>112906480Golden Gen
>>112906392great views for homostars
>>112906480TEAMU TOMODACHITEAMU TOMODACHITEAMU TOMODACHI
>>112906525??? Nigga what the fuck does that have to do with wanting to be purely 3D like Miko?
>>112906525Retarded or retarded?
>>112906424She can just ask, its not like Advent has total monopoly over Terrible Joe's team
>>112906503Reminder that IRyS is the only Vsinger in Hololive to not be given 3D on debut and she ended up having to wait 2 years for it
>>112906505Didn't stop Phase con from getting packed
damn why does Mori hate black people so much anyway?
>went from holos and mori saying they're excited and people are gonna get more opportunities at the start of the year>to Cover's report coming out, saying they're only going to give things to high performers, and hinting that they're canning the en concert to send them overseas insteadFucking HILARIOUS
>>112906575Suisei was a vsinger in INNK ans she didn't get a 3D model for good amount of time
>>112906578Brother you’re comparing 10k to 2k bruh
>>112906396america invented english and you are using english thus it's called soccer
>>112906584>to Cover's report coming out, saying they're only going to give things to high performersthey said that last year... where have you been
>>112906584>report says Cover is only going to give things to high performers>Lui's sololive is announced after the report comes outNahone~
>>112906584Maybe if EN stream and show a little effort they would get things
Mori calls herself a clumsy dork, the real gap moe.
>>112906584>canning the en concert to send them overseas insteadwhat
>>112906578>packed
>>112906599You didn't even invent hamburgers
>>112906616Lui is a relatively high performer. Granted, she gets an order of magnitude more support than most girls do but nevertheless
>>112906616wasn't lui a former owl lady at a black company before holo? she knows how climb the latter to get what she wants
>>112906504The last thing they should do is become predictable. The signs that their tickets were no longer in the highest demand were already there last year, and they should have taken a break, especially when there was nothing new in their lineup.
>>112906630Bunch of subhumans
>>112906616That shows how CCV is a meaningless metric
Mori should have known management would sabotage EN. They did it with her sololive, putting her the week before FES on a random fucking Wednesday
>>112906641>climb the latterrumao
>>112906377https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/k3ear1/countries_who_call_it_football_vs_who_call_it/>mostly europe and browns call it “football”>>112906396No need to out yourself as brown like that.
so downsizing of EN is pretty much confirmed now at leaast from 2027 onwards? Dayum, kinda sucks but we had a good run, Vshojo to the moon.
>>112906662Her music does shit numbers as well.
>>112906620>Maybe if EN stream and show a little effort they would get thingsBiboo has the highest watch hours and guess what she streams and what her average CCV is.Thread is full of stream more monkeys who don't understand management wants Miko level numbers from en
>>112906668That was her label
>>112906641She was a good trooper that obeyed her nijifag manager to burn her fans for fucking ren zotto, so she was rewardedMeanwhile koyori was too reluctant and took too long to burn them with baseball with nijimales, so she has to wait longer
>>112906616Lui got 1M subs and her watch hours are constantly within top 15-20. That's high enough.
Mori knows that the tournaments are too important for Holo, so if Towa ends up not doing [what I assume is the Mario Kart tournament], Mori is thinking to try and pick it up.
>>112906662Touristchama, nobody has ever called CCV a relevant metric for sololives. The #1 thing that matters is how well you sell your albums and EPs, #2 is how much music you have put outCCV is as meaningful as Youtube MV views or Spotify streams. It's cute and something they can bring up, but doesn't come anywhere close to earning a sololive
>>112906681>management wants Miko level numbersWhat does management even do?
>>112906584Catch this dipshit
>>112906681key word here is biboo the rest aren't putting in enough effort and shiori doesn't care about music or idol stuff
>>112906708Something which was proven wrong by the fact management threw a rager over the Pekora karaoke collab
>>112906681>Mikoretard even Miko couldn't get a sololive with her numbers until she released heart connect
>>112906464“Look at me everybody, I probably live in South America or Mexico.”
>>112906628Mori said earlier in the membership stream that she sees the writing on the wall and that they might be doing a world tour thing with 15 or so members from every branch insteadSo no more en concert, only 1st army and their protégé instead
>there will be a certain big mori announcement made a certain upcoming AX panel >mori was drawing for whatever it is
>HoloEN is at risk of bebing merged into HoloJPThis is the dumbest schizo rrat so far
>>112906706She should team up with a JP, and maybe an ID, to do the tournament. Subaru, Miko and Mio are great at planning those types of events
An announcement will be made at a certain panel. Mori can't even say what panel, so as to not spoil. It's not Holo-related, because seeing her there is a surprise. It's not Studio Trigger.
grimmi won
>>112906679Like the other anon said, her subs count and watch hours are good. Those are two metrics among the few Cover put high focus on and sponsors care about
Why can't EN monkeys accept that their branch is a failure and will be thrown under the bus soon? Unlike IDs where the cost to maintain them is low, ENs have way higher cost while getting 3rd stringer numbers when compared to JP
>>112906711god damn look at Lamy's tits compared to everyone else's in that art
>>112906732You are terminally ESL. I said CCV is irrelevant for sololives. Not irrelevant as a whole.
>>112906763melty
>>112906750Maybe Persona
>>112905770>Enreco 3>saw cullso we wonI still need my autofister forma de enreco though
>>112906768they should be 3-4 cups larger
Mori would like a Sonic collab.
>>112906732That has nothing to do with getting a solo live
Are the nendoroids unlimited preorders or is there limited stock?
>>112906745It really is. Keep the trash away from JP
>>112906796Why are you lying faggot?
>>112906318EN was a mistake
>>112906750Oh shit, .hack has a panel in AX
>>112906804Effectively unlimited. They only stop pre orders if production capacity can't handle it and that is only for the most popular series generally.
>>112906645If they stop, they're never doing it againBecause they'll wait a year, someone will say "ah, should we do an en event this year" and it'll go in circles cuz nobody wants to be responsible for it failing like this yearJust safely invest in pekora's 2nd live or another one for miko
By the way, with Kiara's stream, HoloEN reaches sixteen 5view streams, equalling May's markAssuming everything goes like it's supposed to (Justice's 2nd Anniversary Live, Kiara's World Cup games at the minimum), HoloEN would reach 20, their second best mark in 2026 (April had 31)
Mori might never do an Adam Sandler watchalong again.
>>112906763Donie the donkey strikes again
>>112906763why can't you provide any proof of your claims anytime you post any of these retarded fanfics?
>>112906575Suisei seethed for a whole year because she didn't get a 3D model during the early years of Hololive
>>112906784Numbers indicate it did well
>>112906850I wanted an 8 crazy nights with Autofister or FWMC...
>>112906681This thread has some of the most retarded rrats and made what Mori said sounded 10 times grimmer than what she actually meant
>>112906849>>112906860Only buying Fuwawa
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like it
>>112906810trying too hard
>>112906784>ENRECO 1 - 2.2MILLION views (bot mania)>ENRECO 3 - 3.9 MILLION viesantis in fucking shambles but at the same time HOW?
>>112906857You can see the decline with your own eyes. Sales down, CCV down, Motivation down, Sponsor down.
Mori is not excited for Shrek 5. Doesn't like the children.
>>112906318>>112906820it’s not cover’s fault white women are so mentally unstable
>>112906893I should just go to towa for news
>mori doomposting about a thing that MIGHT happen, as in worst case scenario>retards: IT IS HAPPENINGCool
>>112906910enreco 3 had the current en cullthe socialmedia was active as fuck even though the grems were dead with college it was enjoyable even with the fuck up in the end and gonathon having cramps problems not being able to be wealthy this time
>>112906895
>>112906911>Gigi is some 100 units away from selling out her second merch run in one month>HoloEN is raping it's competition so hard they're trying to jumpstart the King Engine and failing miserably at it>I thought HoloEN did a lot of sponsorslop wasn't that something you were bitching about just days ago
ever since the nerissa shit the strat to boost ppm is to say shit about streams and tell the thread a talent said them since no soul is actually watching said stream
>>112906914I mean, wtf happened?
>>112906893That's what holofags have been doing to other corpos and indies. You are just now at the receiving end due to Holo's decline
kronies melty
I think content creators should be accountable for their own content instead of putting the blame on the CEO. Grow up and own up to your content's results.
If Cover actually wanted big numbers from EN they wouldn’t have sharted out a homo branch and then doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on it. If they wanted EN to grow they’d get rid of the homo tumor that pumps antis and negativity into the holofandom’s bloodstream. The fact that homoEN wasn’t cut is proof that management is happy with numbers staying where they are.
ever since the nerissa shit the strat to boost ppm is to say shit about streams and tell the thread a talent said them since no soul is actually watching said stream and then when you ask for proof niggas will say>Well you just HAD BE THERE
>>112906968If anything we were really far off from the full extent of the Selen Shock.
>>112906980vaguepost more, sis
>>112906965>Zoomer haircut
>>112906968Lol all your shit is dead, HoloEN mogs everything daily, no matter whatever debuff shit they play.
>>112906960>Selling out merch is considered an achievement nowBack in the day that would be the default state with most girls selling out their premiums in minutes or hours at most
>>112906914its woke girl boss man bad garbage
>>112906968NIJISEETHE
>>112906739that might happen and not because "muh they're getting canned" but because some holos might as well want their own sololives, which is honestly something i could trade off.i would rather have a few sololives through the year instead of a EN concert that doenst offer anything new
>>112906996Why is their morale low all over, then? Why is Mori, the leader of holoEN, doomposting?
SPWN has chatrooms huh?
>But think of the content creators that have no money to fight legal battlesI don't care they should have thought about it before starting to create content.
>>112906997And E3 has been dead since 2020And the Steam Machien was suppposed to cost $750Your point?
>>112907014Because you keep posting fanfics of something not happening like a seething brown sub-human that you are.
>>112907022Yeah, you never posted in them?
>>112906911i can see it with my own eyes if you dont post any proof you fucking retard
>>112906837So are they supposed to keep taking losses forever?I don't see them being able to keep doing this after this year's decision. The reality is that demand for idol concerts in the US just isn't that high, and sacrificing the entire branch's streaming time twice a year isn't worth it.They could probably sell a similar number of tickets with almost any mid-tier JP's concert while only taking one person away from streaming instead of disrupting the whole branch.
>>112907006Holo "world tours" aren't solo lives. They are HoloMeet concerts kind
>>112907022holy tourist
At least the content on X is owned by the user that posted it so I can sue that user.
>>112906745Not merged, just broomcloseted except for non-runts
>>112907014Vtubing industry is dying. People are tired of livestreams. Not many people have time for such boring activity in the first place.
>>112906997well, thats not the case anymore, but baring a few talents most are still selling out, even if it takes them a while
>>112906911>Literally last week>THERE ARE TOO MANY SPONSORED STREAMS>Today>Sponsor down
>>112907014Mori doomposts about literally everything
>>112907070Then get the fuck out nijitroon.
>>112906985>Cover actually wanted big numbers from EN they wouldn’t have sharted out a homo branch and then doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on it.En branch is covers testing ground since they don't have any competition here.
>>112907070Phase's morale is at all time high after their massively successful convention
>>112906910has it occurred to you that someone posting numbers without any data or a table or anything might just be lying?
>>112907060>>112906940
>>112906262now watch la solitudine dei numeri primi
>>112906616all of haachama's projects got canceled to the point her mental health was ruined because of it. Suisei outgrew Cover so much they let her make her own agency just to placate her. that's the kind of inequality that's happening in Hololive right now!
>>112907070>People are tired of livestreams.This is actually true.
>>112907087stop
>>112906911>Sponsor downHaven't people been bitching about there being too many sponsored streams lately?
>>112907090>massively successful convention
>>112907044No, the demand is still there, they just scheduled it the worst way possible but they will NEVER admit that management was at faultSo instead they're deflecting to the girls and chiding their numbers instead of admitting fault, better to just can their project and redirect funds back to JP than take it on the chin and be honest about their fuck upThis way they can ensure they have enough money for management projects that will get them promotions instead of worthless en events that just serve to make the girls happy
In other news, Saba who has yet to update her fans has filed to extend her trademark
>>112906392They are going to surprise you in 2027
>>112907073Big sponsors like Dodgers, not random game #32767
>>112906849>>112906860They won.
>>112906962Meanwhile the nerissa shit was someone saying she mentioned a homo and NOBODY believing them, declaring they were lying, and basically showing nobody watched her streams kek
>>112907114Greedy bitch knows her priorities
Some of Mori's Japanese friends saw the blueprints to the house Mori's building and said that is the biggest house they ever saw.
>>112906914i finally get what the critics said about it after seeing the pictures of the children. they look more like niggers than actual ogres.
>>112906980You mean like how all of EN told them having their concert on July 4 was a stupid idea but management refused to listen?
>>112907114Wtf??
>>112906489This but me instead since I found a way to piss everyone and their mother now
>>112907114Seriously what is her deal?
>>112907070>Vtubing industry is dying. People are tired of livestreams.Livestreaming is thriving in fleshier world because they are able to host huge events like streamer university or their tournament stuff or the speed world tour thing / his new fifa thing. Meanwhile in vtubing it's the same formula do some gaming streams then do the same 3d concert at some venue keep spamming it over and over Obviously people are going to get bored and stop buying tickets
>>112907047i think i mixed your post with something else but my point was that what might actually happen is more ENs getting sololives/duolives as a trade for full EN concerts (unless we get EN5). Especially with how well Drawn to dawn did
>>112906745>merged into HoloJPIf anything, the schizo rrat of HoloEN getting canned is growing more legs with each passing day
>>112907114Is she coming back or not? I'm confused.Just release some cover songs dude, each of them will get a mil easy.
>>112907114>trademarks >LLC>management team saba as an indie feels even more soulless than a corpo
>>112906985Homos were a manager's vanity project, which is how they got easy funding EN concert is for the girls, so every manager is desperate to find a way to cut it out so they have more resources for their own pet projects like enreco and pekora hosted karaokes
>>112906207people are fucking broke, anon
>>112907159Mostly contempt, a little bit of inferioty complex.
https://x.com/i/status/2069254121685671990
>>112907114So she has time and energy to renew her trademark but no show no stream no update, eh.
>>112907103People are sick of livestreams of gameplay. Video games are boring content. Minecraft blew up because it created the actual content everyone wants to watch: cute girls doing cute things together. If I was Yagoo I would ban holomen from playing single-player games. If they wanted to solo stream it would have to be handcams or karaoke or vibrator endurance.
Bakkabros won btw
>>112907159She's learning
>>112907186Trvke
>mori's new house is a suburb outside of the city >mori plans to buy a car and get japan license to travel into the city
>>112907167>>112907182
>>112907162This basically
NikkaGods won btw
>>112907111Blaming scheduling is dumb because you can never get an "ideal" schedule as it's highly depends on the venues' availabilities and other events' schedules.A strong group would've sold out their concerts regardless. HoloEN during their golden age (pre-cull Myth or shortly after Advent debut) would've sold out the same concert, July 4th or not
>>112907114Nice so what's the cope? Is this going to break the containment?
Waaaaait a minute that nigga keeps deflecting to pekora and miko, this is a pekomikoschizo timeloop trap
Mori plans to buy a car. Probably secondhand, due to the payment of the house. Maybe a G-wagon. Maybe an electric car.
>>112907209you can take the girl out of America...
>>112907114Yeah, whatever she had was deadly and everyone close to her is just waiting for the opportunity to drop the news on us
>mori is doomposting really hard guys>meanwhile mori >>112907209
>>112907185She's not the one renewing her trademark and if you think she is you obviously never realized how much of a girlfailure she is
>>112906850>outgrew shrek>now adam sandlerwtf is happening with mori
i wished Saba dropped her trademark so we can steal it and make a Sameko Saba to our own image>what does a /#/-approved Saba looks like, visually and personality wise?
>>112907185Tells you what her real priorities are
>>112905820it is mind boggling to me fuwamoco have the lowest member streams in advent now.
>>112907171The truth about her is that she's always been soulless and ruthless. Just puts on a mask to string people along. That twitter bio RM stunt made it abundantly clear to me
>>112907224They literally only had this one where they did because some manager said "every fan will be going to ax, it's an anime convention!" not understanding america isn't japan and you can't catch a 20 dollar train ticket to events
>>112907231>every question unrelated to the current discussion ina nutshell
>>112907242Doesn't matter they are still the merch kings
>>112907224all they have to do is not schedule it on>January 1>July 4>whatever date Thanksgiving is for that year>December 25>December 31this shit ain't rock science. you got 365 days in a year, pick one that isn't retarded
>>112907171Grow up. Your favorite YouTuber/content creator is behind a LLC. It is the objectively right thing to do if you want to avoid lawsuits and shit.
this was mori's first ever car
>>112906860Mococo is getting my hot glue
>>112907166>my point was that what might actually happen is more ENs getting sololives/duolives as a trade for full EN concertsNo, didn't because that wasn't what Mori said. She said she fears they would send the most popular members on world tours instead of doing EN concerts as "punishment".Again, Hololive's world tours aren't solo lives / concerts like DtD. They are HoloMeet concerts
>>112907266Ew there's still a kanikek around after all of this
>>112907266this is why we hate it. we cant shit on her while getting away with it if she keeps renewing her copyright
>>112907259yeah this is true. no matter how low all their other numbers go be it ccv, members, sc, music views, they will still be merch gods. which is really the only metric that matters in the end
>>112907186Your boy disagrees. All of Gura’s single-player game streams were 5views.
>>112907114good to know that whatever she has is so deadly she cant make another community post or a tweet but not deadly enough that she cant can file for her trademarks
>>112907232>Probably secondhandBitch, you are rich. Just buy one from an official retailer under a fake name.
>>112907269Yeah I can her white big ass driving that car while hot topic and a fitted
>>112907114>>112907135>>112907234>>112907171her lawyers team did it, retards
>>112906997You do know she has lots expensive merch runs and other trinkets from the very first month of this year? And all of them have sold out/sold very good? The other corpo and indie girls can barely sell anything above 100 units even for cheap shit compared to 200 dollars + shipping shit her fanbase keep buying. If there are, list themThe other corpos can't even begin to compare
>>112907224nta but there's a difference into "ideal schedule doesn't exist" and "lets make our concert in the worst time/location possible!"
>>112907293Community posts benefit her fans and not her. Her trademark benefits her. She's a Jew
>>112907266Where is Nimi's LLC?
>>112907293You genuinely think its her posting any of that lol?
>>112907239I don't want to share her brand with 4chan
>>112907239Like Shiro from NGNL
>>112907292No they weren'tMetroid is one I can think oh
>>112907237That's not the point, its that she did this first BEFORE updating her fans which she promised she would, WEEKS ago.
>>112907331Ask Randon, he is the one in charge of it
>>112907334if she has a team that can file her trademarks, she could have someone running her twitter anon
>>112907209>>112907234>buying a car in country with the best public transport system
>>112907329Quite literally one even
>>112907324Why doesn't her lawyer team make tweets too? She's rich. Just hire a content creator in her place
>>112907292Gura is dead. The past is irrelevant.
>>112907269Ew
>>112907357yes..thats what I implied
>>112907237>girlfailurewe gotta stop babysitting women they’re grown adults
>>112907342>That's not the pointThat is exactly the point. She doesn't even have to have any input in it, if it's someone else doing the work for her>Hey I'm going to renew your IP>Yeah okay sure *goes back to sleep*And that's assuming she doesn't have some automatic process behind it to begin with where people don't even need to contact her at all, who knows really.
>>112907260It's not that simple. They still have to fly members over (and for up to a month even, not just a few days, according to Kiara) so months with important recordings for Holo events are no-no, too.
>>112907185It’s just so sad. I guess she was never meant to be the top vtuber in the world. What a waste of potential
>>112907364Her social media team is on break
>>112907325the bandage bridage ultimate $600 pack selling 80+ units is fucking crazy to me
>mori needs another big hit to collab with creepy nuts again>that's just how the industry works even if they wanted to they couldn't right now >same goes for mori wanting to work with artists smaller than her
>>112907379No, babysitting girls is cute and I will always stand behind it
>>112907381That makes it even worse. It implies she really doesn't give a fuck about her remaining fans who are waiting for her.
>>112907399They're still learning
>>112907334hehe :3
>>112906940If things were going well than Mori wouldn't even be doomposting. After the 2025 graduations nothing would really shock me but it's getting really curious that Advent are getting nendos while it's clear there has been zero work done on the Kronii nendo. Stuff like that creates rumors since that is really curious for a Japanese corporation.>>112907089Cover investors were more willing to let Yagoo test out HoloPro unity with the EN branch which is why Tempus was treated like EN3. Yagoo is making one more attempt with the Holostars concert in 2027 and unicorns didn't understand that Omega only stayed the EN project despite talents constantly fighting with him because he was helping Yagoo with unity.>>112907114Saba is such a mystery and did she really wait until the last day to file a trademark extension?
>>112907279i know what she said anon i dont give a fuck she's being a retard. I'm saying what actually sounds plausible, using DtD as an example
>>112907413I mean yeah, I agree with you on that part.
>>112907420Hey Saba's social media intern, please post a tweet
>>112907424reassess what you're doing you type like fuckin outfitschizo
>>112907364She wants full creative control. It's why she became indie in the first place. "No more hands upon my words".>>112907424>did she really wait until the last day to file a trademark extensionThe lawyer did, and (apparently) they always do for every trademark they manage always on the last day
>>112907424>did she really wait until the last day to file a trademark extension?Her own genmates couldn't contact her, she is not doing anything.
>>112907424Kill yourself outfitschizo
>>112907337she already exists, but we dont watch vtubers here, so meh.
>>112907331herehttps://x.com/niminightmare/status/1947497473544753172
>>112907424>If things were going well than Mori wouldn't even be doompostingyou dont watch mori dont you? hell i'm not even ad deadbeat and i know this is not true
>>112907424Outfitschizo you fucking subhuman cockroach
>>112907413She tweeted about her health issues 3-4 times. She talked about it on stream saying she has to take breaks often. Her last update said it's worse than ever. Give her a break.
>>112907457>She wants full creative control >Doesn't do anything ...
>>112907403Omocot sold out, the Chirofish stuff being remarked to have sold very well, don't why they even bother. The other trinkets like Serendipity and ENReco selling out is just icing on the cake. Phasekeks, Nijiniggers and indieshitters are delusional if they think Gigi is struggling
>>112907463>thick loliYES
>>112907474>Give her a breakThat's literally all she's taking
>>112902588I can't believe I fell asleep mere seconds before watching this kino live...
Mori could potentially be her oen worst enemy in doing music for Persona. Because she speaks fluent English; she thinks that would affect the music. She thinks fans (including herself) would go "this doesn't sound like the Persona I know"She thinks it'd be better for her to do only one track (though she'd accept any deal).
>>112907463JP or EN?
>>112906075>sudden myth collab>sudden roku wawa collab>myth visiting kiara during hiatusYeah, kiara's gone, no wonder she fuckign overlapped a EN concert with no remorse.
>>112907457>No more hands upon my wordswhat words she can't even make a fucking tweet
>>112907474>Give her a breakWe gave her that pretty much her Entire career both as Gura and Saba.Eventually a line has to be drawn.
>>112907424mori has been doomposting for 5 years
>>112907474if she's so crippled and unhealthy that she can only stream once every 6 months she shouldn't have bothered to redebut
>>112907457So where’s her tweet? She promised to make a public announcement
>>112907532She was healthy and streamed almost every 3 days and even posted random tweets.
Which is the better outcome?>IRyS sololive succeeds but Japanese viewers get all the credit and all subsequent EN sololives are in JapanOR>IRyS sololive flops and only Mori and maybe Bae gets EN sololives but they get them overseas
>>112907474If your health is that bad, then don't fucking redebut? Go recover and get treatment instead of adding a new persona to manage
>>112907516Niggas haven't figured out that she just doesn't pretend everything is 100% perfect all the time and says when bad shit happens.
>>112907548>IRyS sololive succeedsThe best outcome, honestly.
>>112907405she's late to the party then she's kinda aging out the industry if she didn't make a hit during the last five years it's only gonna get harder for her
>>112907474Still no public announcement about her hiatus
>>1129075501) She was healthy at the time2) She had deals to fulfill with Omonah. Just like she had the Roa popup shop when she came back for a couple streams and was clearly out of it.
>>112906985nahthey are just delusional retards
>>112907231I'd say other first army members, but have you seen koyori's numbers lately?And I don't think shuba is aiming for big stuff atm
>>112907457>"No more hands upon my words"That was about you faggot antis who kept twisting her words, unless you think Cover management were telling her to "tear it down, burn it down" for some weird reasons
>>112907548>Asking for any Holo to flopBlatant Nijinigger
>>112907543>>112907573Her member became public in less than a minute
Mori (whether jokingly or not) thinks a Hololive musou game is a great idea (but the higher ups wouldn't allow it).She wants a Berserk soulslike, but knows it wouldn't happen.
Congratulations retards you just got farm for a new parrot video
>>112907114lmao at antis melting down because the sameko saba problem is not going away anytime soon
>>112907575>She was healthy at the timeThen explain all those times she went MIA as Gura. If she's telling the truth, this health issue is a known recurring one
>>112906736Well, football is the most popular sport in the world I can be from Mexico or NorwayOnly bong and Pakis call this "soccer"
>>112907548IRyS succeeds, i dont think ppl would mind going to japan hell i think is even better than going to fucking LA
>>112907413This
>>112907596Yeah, the problem of no streams.
>>112907593his videos don't take materials from generals.
Mori has so many achievements, but anime fans don’t really acknowledge her. It feels like only the OG vtuber fans do.
>>112907548I would prefer going to Japan over US
>>112906849Wonnered
>>112907599Do you know how illnesses work? I pray you never find out. Every time it goes away you hope it's the last time and you are finally ready to live your life and then it comes crashing down.
>>112907550sweet delicious melty
>>112907593Cool, I hope he actually used my posts this time
>>112907548all sololives succeeds and we get an advent live in japan in 2027 and an autofister duolive in NY in 2028
>>112907624Someone with an actual illness, wouldn't be doing this silly dance of quitting/not quitting, hiatus, Im totally back guys!!
>>112907548yes sololives in japan, flying and staying in japan is cheaper than flying and staying in LA/NYand I don't have to deal with LA/NY people
Mori keeps forgetting to turn off SCs for member streams.
>>112907624Any smart and sane person who's dealing with such a predicament will never opt to redebut as a vtuber. That was her mistake
>>112907624If she has an illness that comes back every now and then that takes her out of commission for months, she needs more time to recover and monitor the situation if it's really gone
>>112907616 the parrotfag himself or one his discord cocksucker
>>112907643Not that I'm agreeing with you, but what is she doing then? If she was a greedy grifted why did she turn off memberships? Where's the merch?
>>112907505JP
>>112907592Wait what? I was just planning a Holo action game where that have elements of musou but also Sekiro/ZZZ esque boss battles between members, are there any restrictions to that?
>>112907596>the sameko saba problemWhat problem? Her health problem?
>>112907643she has to pay for the bills, what else do you expect a sick person to do for a job
>>112907674The Donie Darko problem
>>112907671Are you gonna include the Holostars in your game? It will be super unhinged HoloPro fans would love it
>>112907616He takes material for future videos from this thread in addition to the catalog threads, just fact check one of his videos with the archive.
>>112907506>Kiara won so hard that anon can only list positive things in xer doompost
>>112907671She said the people in charge of HoloIndie wouldn't be okay with a musou game.
>>112907691i can't believe this retarded shit made me laugh ig im really sleepy good night anon god bless your soul
>>112907624Saba just needs to be honest and actually fucking tell people what's up instead of disappearingLiterally all people ever asked for
>>112907689>Saba saw his profile and decided to go on a hiatus
>>112907657Don't remind her then
>>112907687She's richer than nearly all the other HoloENs except Mori, Ina, Raora, she can handle bills just fine
>>112907663>>112907687Ill give her turning off members, but any sane person would make a quick 1-2m video explaining their situation instead of whatever she is doing. Would probably have gotten the IM treatment x1000 even.
Visit /vt/ for the first time in years:>still seething about Mori>still seething about GuraThings haven't changed.
>>112907643Hospital bills are expensive
I really think cover should stop investing in US and shift concert to other countries because it's way too damn costly to buy flight and hotel tickets. The damn serenskibbidy shit cost 120$ flight another 1.5k hotel price is around 300$ per night plus the additional barrier of visa. Only to watch 14 3d models dance and sing on a stage for 3 hours for 2 days.Idk it's basically speed running bankruptcy
>>112907669wack
>>112907735Sure bro
>>112907735bonebros!
>>112907735I literally replied to your post yesterday anon come on,
>>112907735We love Mori actually
>>112907689I refuse to believe that picture is real
>>112907691Hell ni>>112907712What the hell, why? Lots of other Holo indie games have the members beat up enemies and even other Holos, what does musou games do differently
>>112907509>2022god kanikeks have been doing this for half a decade
>>112907658https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxF4azG8Nds&t=2h49m50s
>>112907689Why are you not following him?
>>112907716THIS. Just tell the fucking truth and reveal everything.
>>112907762Probably they think is a dead genre outside of Japan
>>112907762probably because they are too "directly violent" if I had to guess
nerissa lives in japan permanently?
>>112907593glad to be a part of Parrot's part 2 video about Saba uwu
>>112907762Anon she's talking from her perspective of common sense.
Justchads how does it feel to know that you guys won't be getting justice nendroid because of Elizabeth rose bloodflame
>>112907726did you factor in the medical treatments
>>112907760>location: atlantis, south africa>the shitposting must go onI don't know, what's far-fetched about it?
>>112907728She's not sane. She's very private and keeps her personal life and virtual persona distinct.
This guy has to be doing a bit too get (you)s no one is that pathetic
>>112907795like mori she has yellow fever
>>112907781I'm not black enough for him
>>112907782>reveal everythingIf that happens there would be a mass collective suicide from kaniki around the globe...
>>112907804you don't need to do work for a nendroid so it shouldn't be a problem
>>112907722KEK>>112907760Its real anon. And the funny thing is, shortly after someone posted it here back then, Donie suddenly reverted his pfp back lmaooo
>>112907795yeah shes got 2 cats in Japan
>>112907735we love Mori here anonas for saba, im sorry, but you need to grow some thicker skin if youre still her fan in 2026just tank the jokes and move in
>>112907842they hate europe that much?
>>112907814Well then there should be no surprise she gets these speculations about her.
>>112907744It’s ridiculous that they never do a full concert in nearby strongholds like South Korea and Taiwan, while the US gets multiple concerts every year.
>>112907806Yes. Like I said she's fucking rich.>>112907842Better to rip off the fucking bandaid than continue with this miserable existence
>>112907760why wouldnt you believe it Donie is a faggot
>>112907795Are FWMC's replies always this performative or am I just imagining things because of lack of jerking off sessions?
>>112907804we don't even get fucking casual outfits, so meh.
>>112907782>>112907716I'm the #1 Kaniki, and if you're reading this, Saba, don't tell your audience anything. Don't be like Nimi, nobody actually wants to know your personal life. Just come back and stream regularly again.
>>112907842Her fans are willing to throw her money for not doing anything. You think they'll leave for any reason?
>>112907804Liz will be the first one to get one actually
>>112907887Get lost larper
>kronii started streaming 45 minutes ago no liveposts>biboo streaming for hours with zero liveposts >mori members stream getting regular liveposts???
I love when Mori says big ups
>>112907887>nobody actually wants to know your personal lifeIs that why people are looking up her trademarks and shit?
>>112907887>Just come back and stream regularly again.Fake #1 kaniki. A real kaniki doesn't need streams
>>112907920We love Mori so much here
>>112907920It's just two people.
>>112907920Ina is live too bros…
>>112907920>kronies live in Towa>pebbles use their thread>deadbeats use the brown thread what about it?
>>112907873Ofc Donie is a fucking Homostarsfag as well
>>112907887>don't tell your audience anythingthe absolute state of kanikis..... imagine not wanting to hear from your oshi. You guys are a parody
mori tits
>>112907879>performativeNigga they're autistic (affectionate)
>>112907716If it's something related to her vagina or butt, she won't talk about it.
Mori always goes for the mean ones in otome games, because earning their affection is like winning a prize. Same goes for cats.
>>112907920We're talking about Saba's lawyers doing their job. Please understand that's more relevant than anything else going right now.
>>112907920Tell Biboo and Kronii to start doomposting if they want "regular liveposts" ITT
Why does Waabyuu follow Powdur on twitter? Suspicious
>>112907887People wouldn’t care if she regularly streams just like in 2020-2022. No streams means low fan engagement and its the ripe environment for schizos and rrats to fester
>>112907994>talking about Saba's lawyers doing their jobSaba could learn a thing or two from them KEK
>>112907990>Mori is one those "I can fix him girls"ya that explains a lot
>>112907976I care about ironman, not Robert Downey jr
>>112907966Kronies are here anon they're the ones fighting against the Cuckling "UniqueUsermem" retard who hates Kronii, and the Gymbro cuckposter
>>112907970he watches phase likes the homos and is into shitted garbageso hes just like most phasecucks>also he doesnt even own Gura/Saba merch and just larps as a chumbie to anti hololive
>>112907924yeah? This >>112907114 is an anti. Tower /same/ hasn't posted about it yet.
It might be a while until Mori streams again, but she does say to keep an eye out for the Persona karaoke, Gitaroo Man, and World Cup watchalong.
>>112908022If someone puts on a voice changer and pilots her model, you're cool with it?
>>112908013Its more like saying shes sick or whatever and continuing to string fans along. A normal person would just make a video explaining whats going on with them if it was something real.
>>112908024Wasn't that Scott? He's is a Kronie?
I wish Mori talked to me the same way she talks to her cat.
>>112908037they're too busy asking each other how their days are
extremely rare official mori ass
>>112908022>Saying this No one cared about Iron Man before RDJ
More holos should take ADHD meds
>>112908033Yikes
>>112907879Don't worry I just need to rape the Fluffy one (it's Fuwawa LARPing as Mococo)
>>112908073Very true...
YAB ON MORI'S STREAM
>>112908073The Jetix series was pretty cool
>>112908024Actually the guy that opposed the Uniqmemnum shit was EN Tallyanon, a fucking Ruffian.
>>112908062didnt she do that for some SC in a stream after they asked her>i might be getting her confused with another EN girl with cats though
>>112907847You need to participate in meetings and stuff
>>112908050Retard, Gawr Gura Sameko Saba is inseparable from the person behind it
no one cares about mori
>>112908096Tell me if she get the signed card
>>112908110She did it for donations for the last charity stream
>>112908101Why would he fight that Cuckling? The retard was shitting against Kronii everytime with his meme metric, not against FWMC
have we forgiven her yet?
>>112907920I am not watching biboo today because I hate the whole pantheon shit. She should have streamed black mesa today
>>112908122Correct. So you care about the person behind the characters
>>112908134it mightve been thator it mightve been Kronii who did some pet talk because shes that into petplay
>>112908146This but Star Citizen instead, Biboo please play Star Citizen its good I swear
>>112908136Guy hates Nimi.
>>112908138Maybe after the second paizuri
>those kronies>that cucklingStop talking to yourself about yourself. It is unsightly.
>>112908162Pffft NMS won
Ina has been a productive Human and is finishing her stream
>>112908173Go fuck yourself
purple on purple raid
The Goldmansachs report really made short sellers panic
>>112908165KEK
You can tell who rolled in from Twitter by their insistence that only a Named Anon could make posts
Ina raided her Rock wife
>>112908165He also said GG was from NijiEN >>112814885
>>112908138no
>>112908151Only when she's acting as Saba
>>112908001i am not opening xitter to check this
>>112908199Niji hit their record low as well
>>112908199Can it be considered as sabotage? They basically told people to sell Cover stocks and buy Anykara's instead
>>112908138i dont see why, nothing has changed from her in the last year
>>112908037>>112908067They posted about it a minute after this post btw.
>>112908213The point still stands
>>112908209which he promptly fixed
>>112907920>liveposting>in the funposting threadgo to towa retard
>>112908226Nah they will just say it's based on their statistics and call it a day
>>112908138Shiori, move to Japan now so you can undergo full Feminization therapy under the guidance of Fuwawa
>>112908199we need morepanic like that one and maybe cover will be free from the listing
>>112908236after he was exposed, yes
>>112908248Nah, I want her to be more like Mococo.
I’m glad that Yagoo’s shares are worth less because his leadership has been dogshit fucking awful
Nimi reached that point of no return where her karaokes job to zatsusLooking forward to her collab with the Sloppy Sisters where she is somehow the least watched POV
>>112908138We will forgive her when she gets a loli live2D and does a sexy stream with it
>>112908275KRONII WON! KRONII DEFEATED THE EVIL GREEN WHORE!
>>112908199>The Goldmansachs reportqrd?
>>112908232>Kanikis are /here/Are they the ones shitting up the place?
>>112908248flayon is there too.
>>112907920Deadbeats run this thread
I miss Mumei.
>>112908271funny number
>>112908069Hot
>>112908275>Looking forward to her collab with the Sloppy Sistersit's a saba collab retard
>>112908299>he doesn't know Not for long hehehe
>>112908138She's arguably worse than in 2025 and that's saying a lot, probably the only member in the entire company that still gives a shit about the Homos.
https://youtube.com/shorts/o2FPFGroPQQ?si=-r8SS6U8yhBUOexthttps://youtube.com/shorts/o2FPFGroPQQ?si=-r8SS6U8yhBUOexthttps://youtube.com/shorts/o2FPFGroPQQ?si=-r8SS6U8yhBUOext
yoho
>playing El Sonidito
>>112908323brrat…
>>112908316Anon please, this cope isn't healthy..
>>112908323She's just a saviorfag, it'll run out
>>112908323she only cares about flayjeet for some reason
>>112908316and dooby
>>112908338UN>DOSTRES>CUATROPI PI PI PI PI PI PI PI
>>112908375>>112908351
>>112908275NIMI MOGGED>NIMI MOGGEDNIMI MOGGED>NIMI MOGGEDNIMI MOGGED>NIMI MOGGED
>>112908296Goldmansachs has been trying to prop up nijisanji and bring down hololive since 2023 and after the most recent financial reports they put out another article about how Coverstock is overvalued
>>112908275>4kCope Tally Nimi kek
>The truth is, whichever broker that Saba partnered with is taking her IP hostage, hence the renewal. >the only way out is for Gura to return.
>>112908403why the HECK is globohomo trying to shill one flavor of anime girls?
>>112908398>Sana>in promise>Ao with that many>flowglow with that littlewhat hellhole is this from?
>>112908416The dead can't come back to life if the spirit isn't willing.
>>112908138nah
>>112908341NTA and not a brrat but I unironically think what she did for Rio was nice and I’m glad he got to see the studio staff and hear their encouragement in person before leaving.
>COVER stock got fucked again>Saba's trademark got extended KEK
was rewatching countdown livelast year sucked compare to 2024... the camerawork is absolutely horrendous, what the fuck happened?
>Anycolor hits their lowest stock of all timeKEK
she still mindbreaks schizos to this day
>>112908403>We see minimal impact on companywide earnings from terminating the contract of one Tuber,NEGLIGIBLEEGLIGIBLE
>>112908466power.
Watching stocktards /here/ is like watching people cope about how Intel is still bigger than AMD.5 Ryzen Gens later, and they're still coping. Just like these Nijiniggers are.
>>112908138No, waste of a perfectly good model AGAIN. We get a proper gothy looking girl and its given to this NTR-obsessed cunt. Cover fucking sucks at hiring girls now. HUUURRR DUURRR TRUST THE COVER LE SCOUTS BROOOOO THEY'RE SO GOOD. Fucking awful. And the worst part is that she's fucking boring and doesn't even do anything with her model's design or gimmick, she's the furthest away form a goth girl there is. Literally EN Iofi.
>>112908466They can't reply to this with that weak ass Rent Paid shit because she deactivated memberships and did absolutely nothing for her birthday.
Lol the kanikek is Samefagging
>>112908323Maybe after another clean slate
>>112908496so she's not paying rent anymore?
>>112908492>EN Iofihey atleast she doesn't suck dinohomo cock
>>112908308This one's funnier.
>>112908492It’s such a good model.
>>112908520pretty sure she could retire by now
>>112908496>>112908520
>>112908508 (me)fuck, meant for>>112908138
>>112908275Nice Kronii Gold. Eat shit napcucks
>>112908275>rare and buff content>Nimi only manages 4k stillHer new average being 3k shortly?
Good morning bros, I love this girl!
>>112908536Ok this is funny lol
>>112908554
>>112908528>2042Wait, wait holy shit this is the LOWEST point their stocks ever dropped, even lower than during the Selen Shock
This whole Hype issue for EN is simply solved by debutting an all-loli Gen.
>>112908496Saba is rent free in their heads. AI jpegs can't change that.
the Kanikek is still trying lmao
>>112908572And nijiniggers will tell you their last report was the best thing ever!
>>112908496>and did absolutely nothing for her birthday.BIG WIN SABABROS we did it
Jimmy killing billions.
>>112908615Kek
>>112908615Where's the merch?
>>112908496>did absolutely nothing for her birthdayWe won sababros. We owned the chuds!
Our response?
>>112904591>Pekora has a box project to be revealed this week Nousagis can't stop winning.
>>112908574>debuting 4 lolis to a western fanbasekek that would do the opposite
>>112908641>okbhOh this anon is a cuck
>>112908574The most popular and successful vtubers in all metrics aren't lolis, bad idea.
>>112908623she forgot to reply to her emails
>>112908138no, why would weshes quite literally THE homowhore, she cares more about the homos than yagoo at this point, she makes ERB look tame
>>112908574based. we need a whole gen of su
>mfw my oshi doesnt do member streams, normal streams or birthday celebrations because this means antis lost and I won
>>112908647This wasn't a problem with Gura and Ina, Mococo and Biboo...The real problem is when you use overt sexual tones in how they act. Like >>112908616(I like Jimmy, but that might be too much for the westoids)
>>112908623She's still learning how to release them
Oof >>112906738
>>112908680Ina and Mococo are not lolis.
>>112906746Why is Mogogo's mouth bigger than fuwawa?
https://x.com/RimaEvenstar/status/2069079309302497605>filian and saba spotted in shibuya
>>112908736To the westoids, they are. Just look at the current outrage about Evie.
>>112908757>current outrage about EvieQRD?
>>112908680go on twitter and you can still see trannys seething at gura and biboo just because they're lolis
https://youtu.be/do8EmK-XoAg?si=V-qN0R-q08Hik2bkhttps://youtu.be/do8EmK-XoAg?si=V-qN0R-q08Hik2bkhttps://youtu.be/do8EmK-XoAg?si=V-qN0R-q08Hik2bk10 MILLION DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>112908755Are her fans still doing that ARG? Does she even know about it?
>>112908757You know that despite people raging about lolis they are still the most popular characters in the west right?
>>112908755where is Saba there?
>>112908777Who cares? Trannies and the alphabet crew are on their way out anyway
>>112908793Pretty much. The real point is that as long as you're not giving them overtly skimpy outfits or mannerisms, they'd be fine.
>>112908777I don't see that when I go on twitter
>>112908777they don't even know biboo exists
>>112908803according to who, are they going to be sent to an island?
My new cope is that saba doesn't own saba completely and partnered up with someone who took the IP hostage.The only way for anyone to hear her voice again is if she returns as Gura.
>Grand Piano farewell concertOh? Maybe 2D live and solo channels coming soon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0kvUXckWw
>>112908809That despite needs to be replaced with especially if
https://youtube.com/shorts/1nvsguYs3UQ?si=oZWOa1FweWWjfUEahttps://youtube.com/shorts/1nvsguYs3UQ?si=oZWOa1FweWWjfUEahttps://youtube.com/shorts/1nvsguYs3UQ?si=oZWOa1FweWWjfUEa
>>112908829there are hundreds of them in the hololive fanbase
>>112908836Has the archraora unit debuted yet?
>>112908833Dude just give up this is just pitiful.
>>112908866Those have some cope like she's a small woman or something
>>112908890Friday.
>>112908901They better be good.They better be fucking good.
https://x.com/Linkcat42/status/2069193389195878445Did something happen to this guy? selling of his holo stuff, going to phase and other indies events
>>112908947Probably got paid off to be a Phase shill.
>>112908832Haha no, a camp
>>112908947he has been orbiting two views for a while as far as I know, my guess is that got one to pay attention to him
>>112908947The homos getting killed, no joke
>>112908947
>>112908947>got a lot of attention >became an attention whore>hololive doesn't give him enough attention anymore>look for a fix somewhere elsetale as old as time, attention whores are whores at the end of the day
>>112908914The point of the whole thing is that they are not good, did you not pay attention?
>>112908947by killing off the homos nobody watched lol
>>112908836NOOOOOOO. BIG BRIDGIEhttps://www.youtube.com/live/nBPlJL6kydA?t=3878
>>112908947>holo stuffMore like just his figures. Looks like a natural transition from collector to eventer, been selling some of my extras for plane fare recently too
Mori said making holo en event is hard and doesn't benefit her at all
>>112908836>Maybe 2D live and solo channels coming soon?DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>112906965Fucking grim
>>112908947look at his tweetsdude noticed small indies and corpo actually pay attention to him but holo doesn't anymoredude found the next clout to farm
>>112908836This does make it sound that that mekpark and holoAN thing is a new/different version of the Live2D system they been using
>>112909019
>>112909030That sounds about right. Kiara only does it for the fans because she knows we love seeing them all together.
You know what Hololive needs?A high quality Plamo Collab, 30MS x Hololive. (The RGs/MGs from the Gundam collab are too expensive, they need plamo that are inexpensive but high quality like High Grades so that it is accessible to many!)
>>112909047Maybe it’s something that lets them interact more somehow? Some kind of holoearth tech? Since neither of them do solo streams?
Is Kronii not talking about anything? Im watching Biboo, kind of surprised literally zero posts about her.
>>112908466this is quite literally how kanikeks livealways crying and seething about a girl who doesnt like em
I wanna deep dive in Jimmy.
>>112909101Talking about anime
>>112909045that's how it usually goes with these types
>>112909091HoloANs don't really need to interact with people. The holoEarth tech would boost the entity limit 3D lives have and maybe better physics.
>>112909107Ah, k.
>>112908866>hundredsLiterally negligible
>>112909071Have you seen the prices of the current 30MS girls its more expensive than current HG and some RG
>>112909089Hot
Gyarulive
another big yab
>>112909030ya half the branch is lazy and doesn't even want to stream, I can't imagine how hard it is to get all of them to show up on a date
>>112909162Yeah, that's why COVER needs to lock in with that oppurtunity. It could help them spread knowledge about the Holos, especially if you use the correct ones that could have weapon sets.
>>112909219It's crazy how anytime I see anything non-holo related my eyes instantly glaze over and I disregard it completely
>>112909101we only live post here if we can spin what they're saying into drama
>>112909233Just schedule 10 Tombstone collabs and be done with it.
>Sally mentionWAITERRRRRR. ONE YOPBTL PLEASE!!!
>>112909219should’ve taken the celtics package
>>112909259not again please, I though we were past that
>>112909161hundreds or thousands, my point was that every western fanbase is filled with them
>>112909252well then you wouldn't call that an EN event
HoloEN is just in an absolutely abysmal state. Gura carried the fuck out of the entire branch, despite barely streaming, and losing Ame/Fauna/Mumei also hit hard. There is just 0 cohesion/unity/excitement/etc anything that keeps interest in the branch. If Serendipity does not sell out, that shows Cover that interest has in fact gone down for the EN branch, and that Justice was not able to make-up for the loss of talents. So they will either try merging the branch into JP, or emergency debuting gen 5 as a last resort before doing anything drastic. Why else do people think that the girls are increasingly becoming more active on their rm accounts, because they obviously see the writing on the wall and of course actually have an insight into what goes on behind the scenes.
>>112909293>(90% of EN streams isn't EN)Well...
Maybe if certain girls didn't insist on forcing EN events to be scheduled around them instead of the majority of the branch as well as almost all of the EN fans, it would be easier to schedule events
>>112909305>en concert with gura etc.>sold 6k tickets>en concert without gura etc.>sold 10k tickets
>>112909305Sure, BVTM. Go mourn Clara more.
>>112909245Posting non-Holos here is the equivalent of some deranged parents going to a career fare for university students and starting to talk about how their little baby just recently got a B in 3rd grade elementary school mathematics.
>>112909305keep crying nijinigger it isn't going to help your shitters' merger kek
>>112909316What a retarded point you keep making, nothing is preventing anyone from making an event
>>112909310read nigger en EVENTit would just be a normal stream with 2 people
>>112909305Autofister fags seriously think that they and CC/GG can carry the entire branch now, they are so fucking delusional lmao
Right now Mori, IRyS and Biboo are carrying HoloEN if we are being honest for a second here.The rest barely stream or have poor numbers and engagement relatively speaking.
>>112909259>DON'T>CRY>I AM JUST A FREAKhttps://files.catbox.moe/yoptbl.webm
>>112909305Yeah this all tracks if you just replace Holo with Niji. Dookie and Mintleech killed their branch to the point of phase whores being above whoever is left.
>>112909259ALMOST LIKE A SISTER BY THE WAYhttps://files.catbox.moe/yoptbl.webm
>>112909407irys is in the bottom half for stream hours kiara shiori and gg are above her
>>112909407I mean Biboo and Mori I guess, but I wouldn't really put Irys there cause she's always kind of been in the middle in terms of popularity.relevancy
>>112905854>>112909305
>>112909416Cool, still doesn't detract from the fact that HoloEN has been on a decline the past 2 years
>>112909305Gura cant even carry herself retardo
>>112909426if 3 people are above her +biboo and mori, the only way she is in bottom half is if EN suddenly became a 10 person branchdid I just wake up from a coma?
>>112909243i willl kitbash Flare with Liber Archer and she cant do anything about it.
>>112909437>>112909440
>>112909407Irys barely streams and her CCV is nothing impressive, what is she carrying
>>112909440They can be on the decline for the next 20 years and it still wouldn't matter.
>>112909407IRyS gets good numbers but she generally doesn't stream a whole lot either. When she streams she streams for a long time, but then she won't go live again for a week at times.
>>112909305are you the homosexual guy from yesterday?
>>112909444Doesn't matter, she still gets the best numbers in EN even barely showing up. She'll easily get at least 50k on her return stream when she comes back
>>112909219>first soccer posts>now bball posts/#/ is literal browntown
>>112909462her fat ass
Biboo spicy karaoke TOMORROW
>>112909460Keep telling yourself that, whatever helps you cope. Meanwhile Mori and Kiara will continue to doompost about how fucked their branch is if Serendipity does not sell out. Your hope is not shared by the talents
>>112909462Irys has always helped maintain the idol image of EN, plus is a bridge between them and JP. Without her, EN would be much different and for the worst
>>112909504As we are speaking FWMC are throwing a party over their nendosHow about you learn your fucking place?
>>112909495God almighty
>>112909533what the fuck does that have to do with anything
>>112909305writing on the wallwritten in the sanddie is cast fat lady is warming upthe tea leaves have spokenblack guy didn't change the smoke alarm batteriesthe rats are updating their resumesfinger is approaching the anus
this thread always makes me wonder whether its getting overran by bots or actual literal mentally inept people
So that's...16 5view streams for HoloEN in June 2026, averaging almost one 5view stream PER DAY.There was one day in which HoloEN had one 5view stream...and Nijisanji JAPAN didn't. Nevermind Nijisanji English. And that's the entire gist of it, how can you be so pathetic, so weak, so useless, as to lose to the sister branch? Your best is not only losing to their best, but their second best too, nevermind Advent, Justice has mogged Kuzuha so many times it's hilarious.Why are you still here? Why do you still insist? Don't you realize you backed the wrong horse? Hololive English, just the English branch, has already done better in 20 days than whatever whore you shill has done in their entire worthless existence.
>>112909555both
>>112909555I gave up on this thread once the kronie went on that 6 hour rant about women hating homosexual acts.
>>112909555a little of column Aa little of column B
>>112909555Look in the mirror for your answer
[sad news] even vtuber content are more accessible than actual jpop now
Saba gonna come back as close to Serendipity to announce something that'll end up overlapping it, fucking based
>>112909485ah so youre just a shitposter, ok
>>112909597theres a reason why most of holos songs that are jpop or idolslop do terrible
Hololive EN will never loseIt will keep reaching new heights every year
>>112909607Nothing what I said is false, every Saba stream on average btfo's even the top performing HoloEN whore
>>112909485Saba's last solo stream jobbed to FWMC in what's probably the last good night in this fucking board
Is it Donie doing this retarded sabafag larp
>>112909658Probably, hes the only one thats a saba fag and a holoanti at the same time as far as Im aware.
why the fuck is the anyagg collab still going on
4 hours of anyagg...
>>112909628Saba couldnt even do 30k on her wildest dreams
>>112909672The only actual kanikeks left are retards that blogpost or ritual post in their splits so yeah it must be him or some other schizo farming replies
>>112909672Donie isnt a chumbie hes just another homoloving phasefag
>>112909658She's bleeding the raid for once
>>112908492What should a goth girl vtuber do?
>>112909690She averages like 15k, nobody in HoloEN even comes close to that. You can even take the top 5 members of HoloEN, and they still would only barely beat her out combined
>>112909679>>112909686You guys are racist for not watching it because it's on Anya's channelt.ollie
>>112909407Call me when Mori does 15k solo like Kiara just did.She's lucky if she can do 3k solo.
>>112909718Anya is based
>>112909718but Anya is JP
>>112909717Her average over the past four months has been 0
>>112909729>Kiara gets a numberbuff for literally the biggest global event in the worldWow, let's see her regular ccv
>>112909709Nobody kept track of him that much before she quit, he only started this bipolar/begging for attention after. Primarily with the bibot shit and then posting anti shit against saba as well.
>>112909709>documenting makes you an antiI guess all journalists are pro-war then
>>112909749Doesn't matter, her numbers when she does show up are still insane and that's all that matters. Stream frequency doesn't mean shit, otherwise Kiara would be the top EN talent.
>>112909756>
>>112909718yes and? no EN in channel name no watch
>>112909555more people are leaving so the retards stand out more and it'll continue to get worse as time goes by
>>112909763Saba has lost more Golds than she has won
>>112909770If only retards remain, then what does that make you
>>112909686They were cute, I love how crude the game gets and Gigi displays abit more relaxed tone with Anya
>>112909756not an anti btw
>>112909775Nobody cares about your autistic olympic medal shit
>>112909768BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYSED
>>112908138She's making up for some of her follies by calling the homos rapists
>Anya not even at 2kWhy aren't grems showing up
>SABA WOULD TOTALLY GET GOLD>WOULDAnd if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle.
>>112909787Not defending him but pretty sure he just steals shit from here to post. Kind of like a less popular bvtm
>>112909780*cums on you*
>>112909805theres no gigi in the title so they probably dont know about it
>>112909805Grems are racist, according to Ollie
NTR now means Not The Run, please use it correctly from here on out.
>>112908947https://x.com/Linkcat42/status/2040104869747687928>”You're on your own.">I have to wonder if this is the kind of company that Yagoo wanted to create.Imagine getting rid of thousands of dollars in merch just because they’re getting rid of some useless faggots that you didn’t even watch. How fucking retarded are you?
>>112909834Are they blind?
>>112909756I mean...
>>112909821ya a serial shitposter is the same as an anti
>>112909837everyone knows it stands for NARITA TOP ROAD
KEKAROOOOOO
>>112909879if a JP or EN is on I'm not watching an ID who will randomly start speaking in tongues
>>112909879SEA does not appeal to me
>>112909718>>112909835QRD?
>>112909879because gigi's there
>>112908947>>112909846You guys told me white guys with beards were to be trusted
>>112909846I mean it's not too surprising, his saioshi was Towa who is a known male collaber
https://youtu.be/K73XyXgbWAMMay monthly TCG sales ranking for Cardon15th: HololiveThis was the store that got robbed of hololive cardshttps://youtu.be/5nDMAgDXY2shttps://x.com/TomoharuSaito/status/2061803522392564018
>>112909922Ollie said people don't watch id because they are racist
>>112909879Why did this not get deleted but this >>112909905 did
>>112909949>not even 1 million yenSo is this why Cover is so desperately shilling the upcoming mobile game, because revenue from the tcg is drying up
>>112909805I tried watching it but all they were doing was just reading dialogue so I went back to watching Biboo. GG isn’t really doing anything funny or interesting.
>>112909879Not meant to be taken to seriously, but I dont think ID serves any purpose. They are just there I guess. Expansion should have always been to just EN and there should have been at least close to as many EN girls as there are JP.
>>112909953Mods aren't gay
>>112909949They all dyed their hair.
>>112909970Anya is perhaps the worst Holo member unironically, the only thing I know about her is that she's multilingual
>>112909953mods like the cock being visible
>>112909952But ID only activates my colonizer instincts
>>112909973I never understood why both Niji and Holo expanded to ID before EN, like yeah its a closer market to JP but its also a much smaller and poorer market
>>112909717maybe her peaks, her average is closer to 10k, and getting one 10k stream every 2 months is not very impressive
>>112909805grems are asleep
>>112909990Nah Iofi or Ollie are far worse
>>112909949they were higher last time no?
>>112910012Her average is absolutely not 10k lmao, its 15k
>>112910007The bilingual shit I guess, made the most sense in the suits minds. Basically nobody speaks JP outside of particular spots.
>>112910033For this thread but Anya has no appeal or talent at all whatsoever
>>112910033Lofi at least has being an "artist" as a niche and is multilingual, while Ollie despite being annoying at least is able to stand out more than Anya and is also multilingual which i guess isin't even much of a standout when most of ID is aside from like who Kaela and Moona pretty much
>>112909952Clip?
>>112909973Unironically, Cover’s refusal to be aggressive with the EN market has cost them early against NijiEN and now against Phase. No one is suggesting they add a new gen every 6 months like they did with the early JP gens but a new group every year would’ve been beneficial. At the very least they might not have multiple day-long dry spells of no streams during primetime NA hours.
>>112910061Ollie had some good fes performances
>>112910048Pretty funny how she and Dooby dropped Nimi for whoever that green chick is
>>112910048
>>112909952No, she said it's racist if the reason you don't watch them is because of the language, because they apparently mostly speak English anyway. Still retarded, but you don't need to make shit up
>>112910073>And now against PhaseKhhhhh HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>112910061>artistI still find it funny that being an artist is like half of Iofi's character gimmick and then Cover proceeded to debut multiple proper artists who turbomog her.
>Phase shill still trying.
>>112910053I guess, plus their salary would be very low considering how poor ID is. Probably just another example of how retarded JP is regarding foreign stuff tho, and just never really being able to properly understand the markets outside JP
>>112910073>Against Phase and NijiENLmaooooOk then, tell me 1 (UNO) piece of music that got either of them even near to Snake Eyes. Share to me 1 (UNO) stream that is close to Gigi's paint drying stream. I'll wait.
Why do Phasefags insist on themselves? Is it Napoleon syndrome?
>>112910092Do they still switch to full Jabbaspeak during ID-only collabs?
>>112910073>and now against Phase>and now against Phase>and now against PhasePhase can't even get NEAR holoIDs avarage. And that's WITH Clio bots massively boosting their avarage. Let alone get anywhere near Shiori's ccv.Who let's these retards enter the numbers thread.
>>112910088You're showing 4 streams compared to the 10 I showed where she had 12k at the lowest
>>112910126Napoleon Complex*
>>112910034>>111932321Holo gets into the top 10 during booster release months. stays in the top 20 otherwise for this shopDec 2025 3rd 7.17M yen (Booster release: https://hololive-official-cardgame.com/products/post/ayakashi-vermilion/)https://youtu.be/95WyOtQrYFsJan 2026 11th 1.37M yenhttps://youtu.be/0XJGMO0GXNwFeb 2026 12th 1.11M yenhttps://youtu.be/JmBxNgqkWvIMar 2026 8th 3.65M yen (Booster release: https://hololive-official-cardgame.com/products/post/diva-fever/)(Shop sold out)https://youtu.be/Q52ltpOsngwApr 2026 11th 1.47M yenhttps://youtu.be/1rOhm-mQQCw
>>112907250yup that combined with super short goodbye period she was literally rushing to push her indie temu Gura redebut, it felt like she's parting with Cover on poor terms. Honestly that whole thing made no sense starting with the angsty song telling fuck you to people mad how she doesn't stream but for the first few months she had a mostly regular schedule full of generic Gura-type shit so what was even the point? I have a feeling it actually supposed to be a diss at Cover but after 2 years of shitty behavior nobody seen it that way.
nerissa is the best
>>112910140>I showed a bunch of streams where she had her usual comeback buff
Phase is this shitholes boogeyman. Fucking loosers.
>>112910144We can safely expect next month to go crazy because FWMC has a SEC in the set that released last week.
>>112910092Ollie either doesn't realize or is in denial about the fact that went someone tells people they don't watch HoloID because of the language or the culture, they're saying they don't watch HoloID because they homocollab way too fucking much.They're being nice, Ollie, don't push them to call you a homoshill.
>>112910092ID is just a fucking ugly language, and even if they do mostly speak EN it doesn't matter because all of the ID talents are boring. The only redeemable one is Kaela because she actually streams, but even then it's not like she's super entertaining or anything and doesn't do gfe either
>>112910127Yes
>>112910157Felt called out, BVTM? Why don't you grieve Clara more.
wow pebbles rly love NTR...
>>112910146She was one of the two EN with Mumei that didn't put out a statement disagreeing with Fauna too
>>112910103Even back when she debuted, she got mogged by JP talents not even counting Marine/Suisei who could actually draw well but even some of the mediocre artists in JP too lol. Ina and even Sana coming in just absolutely btfoing her, will always be fucking hilarious and I think it was something she seethed hard at that she was no longer the "artist' character in Hololive
>>112910178kys
>>112910099Had HoloEN had 20-30 girls, I doubt there would be any 1k+ phase chicks, to be honest. Cover really shouldn’t have been so passive with their EN expansion. It’s allowed other groups to slime their way in. Other groups have sadly found success because Cover’s refusal to expand faster. There’s no reason there should be a 3 year fucking gap between generations.
>>112910197>Fauna the poacher.I'm glad Mumei stayed on her lane.
>>112910156>moving the goalpost
>>112910167Kaela is a boring bitch too. Zeta is the underrated gem
>>112906480GLORIOUS ADVENT DOMINATION
>>112908947>Holo declined>Their iconic fans started moving somewhere elseUnderstandable and natural course of eventThe Jimmy royal police guy is only one yab (especially if it involves Aki) from moving away too
>>112910167>and doesn't do gfe eitherWhy is that a problem?
>>112906480Beat holotori song Kiara lostered
>>112910208>SuccessYou're fucking adorable. How many Phaseniggers does it take to beat Kiara? Dunno, none of them have ever got 15k on a stream.
>>112910197Well makes sense considering that all of them had disagreements with management, idk why they never even allude to the issues they had its not like any of the ex-niji streamers shy away from talking about their experiences
>>112909106Would.Deep and Raw
>/#/ shitting on HoloID>/#/ glazing phase >HoloID runs laps around ohase's numbersWhy does /#/ live in an alternate dimension where HoloID doesn't absolutely destroy phase?
>Phase's most Tolerable talent Shiina>is most infamous for outing herself.KEK.
>>112910233Please lie to my fucking face about how will this help Phase incline and don't mind my laugh
>>112907224How many people here even remember the first EN concert was literally in LA the same weekend? When they only had a little under two branches worth of talent to use.
>>112910225Zeta forever fucked herself by being a homobeggar, especially lusting after Axel
>>112910258That's how you know CCV and /#/'s horse race is meaningless
>>112910253They're retarded nothingburgers is why. Even Mori was able to voice her reasons so if these cowards that ran away can't then they must be shit reasons
>>112910258Protip: You're talking to Phase shills.
>>112910092This is stupid, they don't watch Ollie and Iofi because of her their image.
>>112910272better than biboo
>>112910278If kronii can be forgiven so can zeta
>>112910273Well, IDK how it will help Phase to incline but I know that Phase members have been happy as clams since the conventions, while HoloEN's morale are down in the gutter with Mori and Kiara taking turn to doompost about various different matters
>>112909305>carried the fuck out of the entire branch>was fucking MIA for the greater part of 2023-2025 until her graduation
>>112910292>unironic CookieGet the fuck out.
>>112910241Because she goes to the effort of not collabing with homos like most of her branch does, even tho she does do collabs with males but those are usually during event stuff. So she might as well go gfe route because it would boost her, due to already having the purest image in her branch
>>112910292nigger you don't even know what you're replying to
>>112910258
>>112910297Pippa got her ass drunk and cried about being an antisocial reject mere hours after the cons
>>112910258You could have made this exact same post, with a different ID mem instead of Iofi
>>112910251Why are you acting like I’m a Phase faggot? It bothers the shit out of me that Cover wasted years and resources debuting 12 fucking faggots no one wanted that can’t even average over 500 views when they could’ve debuted 12 girls who’d easily average at least 2k each. Cover flubbed hard with that genius business move. Can’t even use the 3D excuse when they’re still giving those faggots another 3D live. It’s a goddamn travesty.
>>112910258I will NEVER watch ID
>>112910279Name a metric HoloID doesn't destroy Phase in.I'm waiting.
>>112910293idk she would really have to go full gfe, maybe even a few asmr streams for her to have a slim chance
>>112909571based>>112909714Mindbroken as always, Donie lmao
>>112910298Imagine a gura that actually gave a fuck about the rest of EN and used her fans to boost everyone up instead of the selfish cunt she was
>>112910253> idk why they never even allude to the issues they hadWell, it's hard to do so when none of those issue came from management's malice, unlike ex-Niji streamers'. "My issue is that they kept wanting me to come to JP even though I was going to get married" just doesn't have the same kick
>>112910253Because Niji legitimately had problems like not paying their talents and fucking them on taxes. The "disagreements" that HoloEN members likely had were "stream more, come to Japan frequently, do more recordings."
>>112910334Chumbuds only watch gura so that doesn't matter anyway
>>112910225ccv say otherwise
>>112910316She cried due to her impostor syndrome that made her thought she didn't deserve to be one of the faces of EN VTubing scene, and because she believed that Phase made her "human". That came from happiness, not dissatisfactions.
>>112910281Well Mori is used to corpo Jap autism, every EN member who left was not I think was the main issue. Gura herself said she was checked out for years, and I think Ame leaving pretty much opened the floodgates as "well someone finally did it so now we can start leaving" for Mumei/Fauna/Gura
>>112910293Problem is Zeta surrounds herself with other ID homobeggars while Kronii has mostly remained in the CGDCT group.
>>112910353Because she trained them that way
>>112910334>what if waabyuu was Gura instead of Senzawa.The time-space continuum would rip itself apart.
>>112910293Meh Kronii is way more sex than Zeta, plus Kronii has fully redeemed herself after the Holosalt garbage
bro stop talking shit about phase, plappa is the next gawr gura
>>112910355Do you know what underrated means
>>112910364Everyone that left was just lazy.
>>112910321gay
>>112910298Doesn't matter, she still was a massive number buff when she actually appeared and that's all that matters
>>112910357>One of the faces of EN VTubing...pfff, get the fuck out of this thread.
>>112910322>Being the first group to organize the biggest group-centric VTubing convention in their market without having to rely on backing of another bigger market>Amount of Western fans
>>112910374Imagine all the watch hours
Yabaihttps://x.com/tanigox/status/2069312983642284169
>>112910357Damn, what a grifter, she probably laugh at phasefag in her discord with parrot and rima.
>>112910391I only repeated what she said, anon. Tell that to her if you disagree
>>112910394>Source: dude trust me
>>112910357In what world is Pippa one of the faces of the EN vtubing scene, even the lowest runt of HoloEN beats her out lmao
>>112910390>d-doesn't matte-Cope.
>>112910394>That would be VShojo and they're fucking dead now>Pffff, no
>>112910379>my opinionobjectively she's not better
>>112910322Watch hours, the most important metric for streamers
>>112910253>25% of holoen has left>17% of homoen has leftThis legitimately pisses me off.
>>112910378I wonder what kind of shit are these Phasefags smoking because goddamn that level of delusion is wild
Phase feels like Nothing (the phone brand) Overhyped with no actual substance. Their CEO is also shit just like Carl Pei is a shit.
https://x.com/SIROyoutuber/status/2069260385895780372>So excited! Let's think about the future with legendary VTubers!
>>112910374In that timeline, Gura performed Ride on Time horribly, had no ‘a’ meme, and a grating voice that rivaled Kiara’s. Hololive Myth would have failed its debut and ended up on the same level as ID.
>>112910420VShojo didn't have any VShojoCon. They funded one or two conventions, but those weren't VShojo-exclusive
oh nice, Biboo Gold. Its been quite a whileFinal Verdict: NATTY!
>>112910380Pretty much can be extended to the JP's who left too, obviously not all the same concerns but the JPs who left were lazy fucks more than anything. EN's who left were lazy too, mainly Gura, but their issues probably stemmed more from having to go to Japan so frequently with Gura being in Sweden, Fauna being in the US in a relationship, and Mumei being in college in the US and also being in a relationship
>>112910433>no nijiBASED
>>112910440I don't think they'd care because Mori and Gura in that timeline would have a positive feedback loop that it rubs off everyone else.
>>112910416>even the lowest runt of HoloEN beats her out lmaoin terms of mindshare she probably is moe famous, more people are definitely aware of her existence than say shiori or raora they may not watch her but they know her
>>112910418Literally doesn't matter you retard, why else do you think Cover kept her on for so long? Because despite barely streaming, she still brought in massive numbers that no other EN member could hope to pull and even mogged most of the JP branch as well
>>112910441This reminds me a lot about how Production Kawaii broke their wrist jerking themselves off about having the first EN concert ever ever ever...yeah...I mean, good on you for imitating VShojo and Production Kawaii, famously alive companies
>phase beats holoID in these non quantifiable metrics I just made upPhasetroons are fucking hilarious.
>>112910433Its pretty funny how all the pioneers of vtubing are runts
>>112910451umm anon
>>112910452A part of me wonders if Cover would’ve benefited from having a branch that only streamed instead of doing idol activities. Or maybe let girls choose to do them one year and sit out another.
>>112910485wasn't that yesterday or am I missing something
>>112910451Kiara got gold
>>112910459Mori only got popular because Gura was popular. RIP was ultra cringe, but Gura’s momentum was so huge that everyone latched onto Mori, who at the time was the only one with an original song.
>>112910462I wouldn't say so, whether its someone who barely knows anything about vtubing or someone who is decently knowledgeable about the sphere they would probably be able to name at least 10 Holo EN members before they could name 5 Phase members including Pippa. Sure she's the face of Phase, but she's not more recognizable than any Holomember that's not ID
>>112910452oh wait he said the S-word aaaIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEe
>>112910506Just stop, Donie. Just stop.
>>112910485>Holo won againI'm tired of holo winning, when it's my corpo phase cocknet turn?
>>112910451kiara got 15k retard
>>112910465>why else do you think Cover kept her on for so longNTA, but Cover is nice enough that they would've given the same treatment to any Holo member who is lazy enough to pull another Gura (after their first year, ofc, they have streaming quota to fulfill in their first year).After they decided to keep Haachama, I'm quite sure the only way for Cover to get rid of any girl would be them very blatantly and / or even maliciously violate their rules. Not streaming is neither
>>112910506Try thinking about this for a moment, and you might realize how stupid this sounds
>>112910517>>112910485>>112910502Oh I thought Kiara's was yesterday, ok then
>Myth only got popular because of Gura...Do Kanikeks really
i only like talents that like rap
>>112910378KEEEEEK
>>112910462ironmouse mogs your /pol/ pinkwhore lol
>>112910473Well, unlike PK, Phase members have confirmed that their convention was a massive success
>>112910527Anon that's Donie Darkek you're replying to. He's the only faggot who would glaze and glorify Saba/Gura to the heavens while shitting hard on every Holomem as much as possible, especially Mori and Biboo
>>112910495That's what people originally thought EN was going to be, especially since they were being shafted by the company during their first 2 years due to lockdowns and shit. So they only really could stream, but even today EN is still in a weird position of not really being known as streamers or even for doing idol stuff because most of them have such little frequency for showing up to anything
>>112910541>confirmedKek
>>112910433Are you even familiar with the Christmas miracle? And don’t act like Idolbu’s untimely demise didn’t greatly benefit Hololive at the time. Man it’s hard to believe I used to watch Idolbu more than Hololive in the early days.
>>112910541Holy shit, really? I thought Phase members would say they fucking suck!
Kronii rrat?
>>112910539Ironmouse contributes nothing to the market but herself, not too different from Holo.Pippa and Phase actually provide a different angle to VTubing culture
>>112910570what is it this time? it better not be another gymbro bullshit
>>112910541vshojo said everything is a success too before they imploded
>>112910519Sure but Gura being as big as she was, certainly gave her more room and privileges compared to other members. Like not even going to Japan during fes
>>112910570Like what she's talking about rn? It's just a regular timebro being a piece of shit story
>>112910581is this faggot for real
>>112910575>Pippa and Phase actually provide a different angle to VTubing culture>Poltuber and BBCtuberI see that uruka girl got a lot of attention from the black community, kek.
>>112910506Gura was popular in part because HoloJP was already popular. The level of support that new debuts receive reflects the actual performance and influence of the previous generation. The fact that both Hope and Council underperformed at the beginning suggests that Myth did not meet the expectations some people claim it did.
>>112910541well it was more successful than holoens convention at least ...seriously I cannot believe cover allowed some small corpo beat them to hosting a convention in the states
>>112910581Did Gura really skip out on Japan during fes? I know she was usually absent from stories about meetups from other members, but that's still insane if she actually skipped out on going in person
>>112910541Proof? Where's the financial report?
>>112909555the usual schizo posts (the nimi abuse pic for example) are possibly botted due to how consistent it is
>>112910567They didn't have to say anything if they thought it wasn't successful. Did you see any HoloEN member said that serenskibidi is successful? Or did you see Mori being all doom and gloom, said that she feared the writing was on the wall and they might switch holoEN's future concerts with world tours from each branch's popular members as "punishment"?
>>112910575the small dog is barking again!
>>112910597>>112910578nvm false alarm just me being retarded
>>112910605nigga, tell me who's the first holo to get 1m sub?first one to have 100k karaoke?
>>112910605Myth barely had any expectations, people thought they were gonna be dub tier voices and be cringe or push western political shit. Even JP 5 admits that their debuts were overshadowed by Myth, and of course they also had to deal with Aloe bailing during the 1st month
>>112910606Post your phase membership then, no membership no proof.
>>112910627>The level of support that new debuts receive reflects the actual performance and influence of the previous generation.
>>112910495holoen arguably has a much higher workload in terms of idol obligations than JP since not only are they required to participate in fes they also have the yearly EN concert, they really don't have many periods of downtime
>>112910627gura 200k stream doko?
>>112910627you seriously bragging about this when her Graduation Stream, the most special and most important stream for a Vtuber aside from her Debut, was fucking MOGGED multiple times over? Really?
>>112910603Don't know about black but she at least enticed one of the rare white fans of Hololive...
>>112910637KEK
>>112910607gura was also speculated to have been skinwalked for breaking dimensions
>>112910646>graduation streamfuck off, dramafaggot, go lick dookiebird's manko or something
>>112910620>Have to rely on JPKEKMeanwhile Phase has reached 1/3 of HoloEN watch hours, something no one would've expected just 2 years ago
>>112910630People expected them to be like what they saw in JP clips. What they didn't understand is that those memorable moments came from countless hours of content creation and interaction, not from a few isolated highlights.
>>112910655it really is all about getting attention from the girls to these people huh?
>>112910605To this day I swear that Cover should’ve went on 6mo debut timeframe when Myth turned out to be a huge success. They refused to emulate what allowed their JP branch to succeed. By the time they debuted Irys and Council, the hype was gone. Cover was too conservative with EN. Sadly they’ve become even more conservative with EN by having 2 year gaps between generations.
>>112910451retard lol
>>112910485who? I thought she was busy with her ligger friends
>>112910690Can't blame him, with how hololive image has been declining in the West, you know
>>112910655He more of this fan though, not phase.
>>112910673I do not remember this expectation at all about people thinking that EN would be like JP, JP had already established itself after several years and had several gens at that point. EN was just starting up, so people had no idea what to expect
>>112910672mythic talent is not JP, mr.phasebrown
>>112910655>rare white fanBro was a bigger homobeggar than the flips and indos.
>>112910692>2 year gaps between generationsmore like 3 years and counting now its looking like we wont even get a new gen this year
>>112910692If you are applying 2026 EN management standards to 2020, you are sorely mistaken.
>>112910690Didn't Towa acknowledge him tho during his initial reveal which blew him up? Dude got something that 99% of fans will never experience, and still bailed for the less popular whores because they'll provide attention to any grifter lol. At least that seafag Jimmy stayed loyal to Aki
>>112910706>i’m gonna shop around for a new vtuber group because they got rid of dubaisHow lame.
>>112910712Do you forget how translated clips and Reddit exploded before HoloEN's debut? That was the expectation.
>>112910563Koyori is the odd one here
>>112910762>>112910563https://x.com/hakuikoyori/status/2069274075726553134forgot the tweet
>>112910717The point is that those total watch hours and Holo / Niji watch hours greatly depended on JP marketMythic is a fraud because they counted their fleshies, too
>>112910765you know how people would get to know them? IF THEY FUCKING STREAMED
>>112910784they just did, not their fault you're too poor to afford $5
>>112910692It was just another example of JP autism, even after the explosion of Myth they still did not believe in the branch. Myth has talked about this so many times, how they were basically left on their own to figure shit out during their first few years. Management had no confidence in EN, and when they finally decided to have a 2nd gen it was just way too late. They also never should've created a EN stars branch, probably Omega troon's idea to try incorporating a mixed-gender sphere within EN which never would have worked out because only Mori and kind of Ame were ok with male collabs
>>112910692They learned from this so when it was time to debut HOLOSTARS they had a second gen ready to go before the second one even debuted and immediately started scouting for more talent once they were out (while EN stagnated lol)
>>112910664I accept your concession, Donie.
>>112910749He blew up when Cover initially decided to "feature" him as the Western fan of HoloFes (they did the same with another fan the year before).His opinion of Cover / Hololive has soured since then due to all the graduations with "disagreements with management" and the homo defunding
>>1129106921 year was fine the real fuck up was stopping for the homos
>>112910758Yes, but nobody was like "oh boy can't wait for EN to have their own Matsuri and Fubuki" or whatever
>>112910758NTA but I remember my expectations were tremendously low and I was fully prepared to get a bunch of ironic weebs in EN. Most circles I was in weren't particularly hype for EN. Maybe it's different for normalfags?
>>112910797Did they? They basically had free viewers lining up for them no matter what they did, with zero competition.
>>112910815I can understand not liking Cover as much anymore with all the graduations, but if my oshi is still in the company then I would still be supportive at least of her. Also I never really saw him promoting homo stuff, idk why that was something that was apparently his final straw to sell all his holo-related merch
>>112910851>Zero competitionWhy are you lying?
At the end of the day, Hololive still won. No one can dethrone it. Noeh one can challenge it on equal terms.That's all that matters
How do Pebbles function in daily life after filling their brains with 8 hours of streams every day?
>>112910876You lost fucktard. >>112910451
>>112910876its sad that without the raid Biboo is just a 5k shitter now
>>112910851I mean there was some competition in the indie sphere, but yeah one of the reasons why Myth was so popular is because they were the only real corpo en vtubers at the time. Which is always funny to look back at when Niji EN was coming afterwards, and some people thinking that they would be legitimate competition to HoloEN
Biboo asks>Kiara loves Raora and Raora loves Kiara>if they had a kid, would it be Wawowa?I feel like an answer would require several follow up questions
>>112910876Not a coincidence that she has dropped from 9-10K average CCV to 5-6K now
>>112910876rent free
Remember, Phase had to pay off Janitors here and pressure the Holo fanbase to move elsewhere, so that they could pretend to be #1
>>112910890And that all answers the question: why are they lazy? Why do their contents never improve? Because they had things very easy from the beginning. No matter how much they say it has been difficult.Take a look at Miko or Subaru in 2020, they were nowhere near as sharp as they are today. Then take a look at Saba, has she even improved compared to the day she debuted?There is a difference between struggling with “I need to think so hard” and struggling with “I need to afford my next meal.”
>>112910908Nice cope holocuck, the reality is more like that most fans left willingly to better vtubers who aren't just lazy whores
>>112910890Vshojo defined “western vtubing” before Myth got a chance to and fucking Nyanners ruined everything forever
>>112910815I dunno why you lying when he literally go to AFO germany days after THD. He's certainly doesn't care about dabois more than a meme. He more of a con-goer when you browsing his post.
>>112910908congrats to them, now the board is slow and dead afturns out holochads runs everything
>>112910886I'm truly curious. 8 hours of slop. Daily. Does it affect your brain function or something? Maybe it discards other memories to make space for the streams?
>>112908296>>112908403No retards there was a new report
>>112910655This dude, Jimmy and a couple others are literally homobeggar primes
>>112910876Why is this monkey so obsessed with Biboo? What did she do to him to become like this
>>112910897yeah, shes pretty much the face of HoloEN's recline
i think cover should really make EN concerts a bi yearly thin specially if they are doing solo concerts now.i feel like HoloEn concert is just putting such a strain on the branch that has to do it every year, has solo concerts now, and also participates in Holofest and other 3d lives.
kek the absolute state of /#/
>>112910802Having 10 girls and 8 faggots really lives rent free in my head. I can’t understand it. The girls were averaging at least 4-5k at the time while the homos struggled to hit 1k. Just utter retardation. Imagine if they debuted another group of EN faggots before EN5. It’d be 15 girls and 14 homos.
>>112910945biboocute, makes schizo mad
TO THIS DAY, all non-hololive western vtubers can be categorized into>Veibae>Ironmouse>NyannersArchetypes
>>112910945he thinks Biboo chased Gura out of HoloEN.
>>112906860If fuwamoco really cared about hololive and staying true to the Japanese way of living, they would give their nendroid spot to Iofi. She is their senpai and they must know how big of a deal getting a nendroid is to her.They are basically denying her dream for their own selfish gain. And showing little solidarity costs them nothing with how much they are always getting. Greedy bitches
>>112910862He didn't sell Holo merch directly because homos got defunded. He started expanding his interest towards other groups (Phase, indies) and attending events outside of Holo ones.He clearly need a lot of money seeing that he has been to 4-5 different conventions in both US and EU over just last 2 months and he still plan to visit more. That plus being less interested in Holo means selling their merch is a good way for him to make money to fund his travels
>>112910925Post your membership phasecuck or are you still waiting for your giftcard from fishman.
>>112910939Must be bewildering to you that we have someone who actually streams huh, Donie.
>>112910888sub 5k. it saved her
>>112910925>aren't lazy whores
>>112910962>Whores>Grifters>Bitches
>>112910922Well again, EN was kind of thrown to the sharks early on and left to figure everything out on their own. Yes they started big, but not having support sucks. JP did start small, but every step of the way they at least had company support helping them
>>112910977You didn't even look at the graph
>>112910945he is brown and lives in an indonesian slum, he was already ngmi
>>112910981Phasecuck, your graduation response?
>>112910962also Nimis
qrd on the Mori "doomposting"? Without the phasetroon spergouts preferably
>>112910976KEK
>>112910926Vshojo debuted barely 1 month before Myth, and they had 0 impact compared to Myth despite having someone from a similar background to Gura with Nyanners who was a failed Holo applicant btw
>>112910890I remember when an early group of HoloEN fans jumped on the NijiEN bandwagon before they had the carpet pulled out from under them with Luxiem. Kinda wonder what happened to them? Jumped back on the Holo bandwagon? Moved to another company or quit vtubing altogether? Considering how much homoEN’s debut tested my fandom in 2022, I wouldn’t blame if they quit watching vtubers altogether. Having a CGDCT fest turn into a high school drama sounds devastating. But they only have themselves to blame, ignoring that Nijisanji always needed to have faggots in everything.
>>112910991Do they really figure things out?They still make simple mistakes, such as stretching a multi-part video game playthrough over several months without a clear schedule. That does not seem consistent with careful planning or consideration.
>>112910962Aren't Veibae and Nyanners basically the same tho, openly have bfs and both have their "anime dub uwu" voice
The real, real problem is that Chumbuds never gave Gura any form of accountability. They never scolded her over not being able to make content.Hell, they scolded her for making connections to people they didn't approve of.
>>112910974Seems retarded to be traveling that much to the point of needing to sell what is supposedly your most important group merch
>>112910945he is jealous.biboo works harder, streams more and is beloved more than his whoreshi
>>112910981Qrd, why is she lazy and why phasetrannie never mention her?
>>112911047Considering Saba/Gura burned so many bridges... it's fitting.
>>112911008She knows she is losing the GGb owl but won't give up yet
>>112911040Its all about control. I'm not kidding when I say many of them deep down wanted to groom Gura but obviously it won't work
>>112911044B-but they were mean to dubais.
>>112910771Amatsuka Lilye is one of the vtubing oldfags. no wonder she has connections with Kizuna Ai's clique
Imagine making up stuff just because the Holo you hate was streaming for her members.
>>112910233https://x.com/i/status/2069319910183067789speaking of jimmy, he's even cancelling his serendipity plans due to recent events lmaooooHololive is so fucking over
>>112911031Well this kind of unprofessionalism, does reinforce that yeah they were left to handle things on their own and never really got proper guidance
>>112910991When most of the JP talents were debuting the company as a whole had like 5 employees lol. Early JP gens absolutely did not get more support, they just wanted it more.
>>112910992you coping with "max" viewers? that bitch was trending to go under half way during the stream. that boost saved her avg too
>>112910957They listened to Reddit and Twitter and went all in on “streamers not idols”. The Nijification plan was fully in motion by the time Council was being recruited and I’m quite sure that they always intended to have equal numbers of hololive/stars members.
>>112911050no idea but it's funny they go crazy about saba when this chick way outmatches her longest hiatus
>>112911040Not even just a chumkek problem, but so much of the EN sphere is just filled with bootlickers
>>112911081why are phasefags so obsessed with Twitter literal whos?
>>112911082It happens because they have never been in a position where they risk losing viewership.
>>112911088Go fuck yourself Bibooschizo
Mori doomposting about serendipity possible being the final EN concert, the writing is on the wall according to her https://files.catbox.moe/ljc2gv.mp4
>>112910974real oshikatsu doesn't sell their merch like that, you stick with your oshi expect nothing in return because you love themdude just move to whatever seems giving him fame atm
>>112911081>due to disagreement at work with the commanding and management officeeven fans are having disagreements with management Honestly surprised this retard has been in his position for that long, figured there would've been a tight order to not be as active on social media given what he works in but who knows its a fucking sea shit hole so they probably don't care
>>112911088Too bad Nimi's karaoke couldn't even get UP to 5k, huh
>>112911081who the fuck is this guy and why is he announcing like he was performing?
>>112911063>Its all about control>some chumbuds are hardcore lolicons who wanted their own "loliwife" and they project that desire to GuraThat reminds me of that one chumbud who once posted that he will "find Gura" and that "she won't get away from me"
>>112911087They absolutely did get support, it wasn't much, but they still usually always had a manager or a handful of staff members who were helping them
>>112911112Yea complete nothingburger honestly, if anything this is a good sign
>>112911108They seem to be in that exact position now, as HoloEN has been having some of its lowest numbers the past 2 years. Sure they are still the dominate EN corpo, but the go back to being an indie move is more appealing than ever at this moment
>>112911081trying to be politically neutral while working on a government agency that's genociding Cambodians will surely put him in hot water. he should be thankful he wasnt jailed for treason.
>checks out Mori's latest yt short also featuring Shiori>erotic as fuck>checks comments>roughly half of them are Japanese comments lusting over ShioriWhat the heck? I didn't know japs like her that much
>bibitch aka gura at home is NOT a sub 5k shitter>...>she on the edge, piece of shitKEEEEEEEEEEK
>>112911035A Veibae is a shameless whore, an onlyfans peddler, she’s selling sex in a way a Nyanners isn’t.A Nyanners is, regrettably, /ourgirl/, she’s /here/, she gets it, she’s in on the joke… until she smells a bigger audience and suddenly she always hated (you) and the jokes she was forced to tell.
>>112911159Yea they can take one quick look at Fauna going from 3rd strongest in the branch to fighting her heart out to beat Shiori and KiaraNo one's thinking about being an indie
>>112911112yea it probably is and deserves to be. EN doesn't deserve anything with how whiny the fanbase is about location. Let the last one be in LA and they can fuck off.
>>112911171>>112911110
>>112911112whats notable about this? seems like the average mori member stream
mori has an insane bulge
>>112911112>Mori, literally the face of HoloEN, saying that there will probably not be a EN 5 concert and that the "writing is on the wall">It will instead be merged into a total event with JPHolo cucks will still somehow cope about this
>>112911081honestly im shocked he could even keep traveling with his job
Honestly as long as EN can get sololives and gen lives too it not having anymore EN concerts is just fine, they all show up for holofes these days anyway, having a separate concert has been favoritism if anything, JP and EN don't get that.
https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/2069317550958383138who triggered the dogs
>>112911112ticket status?
kronster raided rock
>>112911174For example Nimi is a Veibae and Dooby is a Nyanners
>>112911209woops, mean ID not EN. JP and ID don't get separate dedicated concerts Yearly.
>>112911176Nimi is still popular as an indie, obviously she's not as big as she was in Holo but now she doesn't have that massive paycut and can do things at her own pace while still streaming and doing event stuff.
>>112911140So did holoEN obviously, and the things they complained about not getting help with were not even thought of as a possibility when the first JP girls were debuting. When Fubuki debuted Cover had THREE employees in total, the entire company had THREE people, and more talents than EN had until Council debuted. They had just as little support, realistically they had less.
>>112907119Dodgers was not a sponsor, holy shit. How clueless are you?
>it's fine holoen lost their world tour>it's fine holoen lost their dodgers collab>it's fine holoen lost their annual concert
>>112911159The EN scene as a whole is declining because it has not been able to establish an identity beyond relying on viral moments.
>>112911225still no1 vtubing company baby!
>>112911225>it's fine your mother lost her battle with cancer
>>112911112Hearing this directly from a member, about how grim the ticket sales and hype for Serendipity is even internally, is so fucking satisfying after hearing the constant cope from Holofags about how Serendipity is apparently going to be a success and whatever
>>112911210Fuwawa typed this tweet to calm down Mococo after she had a particularly bad 'tism fit while egosearching.
>>112911212>kronster raided rockWait this is a rare raid
>>112911225nigger is shitposting about his fantasies
>>112911225the fact they are still at the top truly shows the absolute state of EN vtubing
>>112911219Hololive is like One Piece. A lot of people genuinely like it for the characters and stories, but a huge chunk of the fanbase is there simply because it’s popular. They want to be part of the phenomenon, not because the product is dramatically better than everything else. No longer the case for EN branch though.
>>112911225>>112911233>>112911225Keep up the raid, BVTM. Still too slow, maybe this time, Clara takes less cocks
Wait I just opened this threadYou retards are taking a mere theory that Mori put out as literal fact?
>>112911209Retard
>>112911221let’s pretend you’re right that the early gens got zero help unless you haven’t passed third grade math, which is a greater number, a negative amount of help or zero help? stop being obtuse /hlg/ retard
>>112911112Jesus just how bad are the sales
>>112911225No competition means no worries
>>112911253please understand shitposters are desperate
>>112911209>EN getting solo livesnice joke
>>112911225My oshi is in JP so yeah Im fine with it, you ENslop deserve the leftovers.Even though I say that, serendipity will still blow anything else in the EN space out of the water because the EN space is just that grim, fucking tiny shit phase is its closest competitor like 5 rungs down lol.
>>112911253>retards
>>112911256>negative amount of helpNow you're just going full retard
>>112911221Ok but there is a world of difference between when JP were literal nobodies but still getting at least some help, and when Myth debuted to massive numbers and not getting any help
>>112911112and yup my worst fears are realized I just knew that managmeent would take zero responsibilities for their blunder of hosting this years concert in the worst possible date and in the worst possible city imaginable and instead blame the girls for the concert underperforming, not to mention their absolutely braindead decision to not debut a new gen in 2 full fucking years
>>112911265Saying this means that you revoke the right to criticize Mori when she gets her third
Maybe I’ll email Cover and tell them that the main reason I didn’t buy a ticket was because part of the money goes to Jurard’s paycheck
>>112911265IRyS literally has one
>>112907119Hololive WAS the sponsor for Dodgers, not the other way around, dumbass
>>112911247to be fair the product holokeks offers is certainly billion times better than your inrelevant phasewhores
>>112911225>its fine holoen continues to lose talents>its fine holoen barely streamsWhat's the cope gonna be when there's nothing left of the branch lmao
Did something happen to Phase? These raids happen when something flops in Phase... like the low views on their songs
>>112911270do the math. prove you’ve passed third grade
>>112911112She goes more into it being an issue with the economy and 4th of july a minute after your clip.And I think that is true on that, America is becoming TOO expensive to travel, and the current administration is not doing anything to combat it.i think irys concert being in japan is the letter on the wall. I believe En concert in Japan could work but it seems to defeat the purpose.Also, she talks about how she likes being here in holo and is grateful for what she can do and has done after that.
>>112911225>it's fine holoen lost their dodgers collabCover decided not to pay to collab with the Dodgers. Seriously. you think Cover got paid to show up on the screen?
>>112911288They can't convince people their small get-together was successful.
>>112911284They both produce boring livestreams and mid-songs, idk what you're talking about
>>112911253>mere theory that Mori put out as literal fact?mori is the face of holoen she is the most important member of the branch internally, would she not know better than anyone?
>>112911233Also there is massive burnout because of all the drama and other shit that the EN sphere has experienced, HoloEN has largely avoided a lot of that but still was heavily affected by the wave of graduations. Plus HoloEN has always had problems like barely any unity/sense of actually being friends in the same way that JP mostly feels.
>>112911288It also happens when Nijisanji fucks up so just keep your eyes peeled for twitter screenshots on the catalog I guess
>>112911275There is a world of difference in how retarded it makes the company look for sure but in practical terms as far as the talents' activities go if they got the same amount of help they got the same amount of help
>>112911276I don't think there is gonna be a good date.With the hormuz straight still closet america is up for another gas shock next month.
>>112911296So... the clip was cut to remove context?Who would do that!? I mean nobody would try to peddle a narrative, right? RIGHT?
>>112911112Good. EN is no longer in a position where "concerts" are exciting anyway and it hasn't been for a long time. The economy is fucking shit, the places they pick for them are shit, it's all shit. All we need is holofes once a year and that's it. You can't do merch, more merch, even more merch, fucking concerts, more merch and then expect people to also have memberships on top of paying their bills AND also pay for holofes once a year. It's too much for how things are nowadays. Regular merch and EN being part of fes is just fine for the EN side of things. Mori will still get her fat ass fed regardless because she has a record label backing her fat ass up anyway so I dunno why she's vibrating her tits about anything when she has her own shit going on and doing just fine. I'm sure the rest of the ENs won't give a flying fuck about no more concerts, most of them aren't even music-focused anyway. We need EN5 with actual good people in it before anything good can start happening to EN.
>>112911247Plus there's just not really much else in terms of competition, add into the Niji EN refugee crisis and we are now at the state of what HoloEN is
>>112911257Around 10K / sub 10K over 12.6K capacity. And sponsors usually care a lot about percentage of seats filled over total seats sold
>it's fine holoen lost their annual concertHoly shit, faggots are actually pretending likethis is 100% happening
>>112911288Yes, Mori's friends in Phase were so worried they got her to spend 5 minutes in her membership stream talking about how she thinks there might not be another big holoEN concert next year
>>112911276you whiny bitches deserve nothing lol
>>112911253Mori herself is literally fucking saying that there might not be a EN 5 concert and that the "writing is on the wall" and explains how it is likely just going to be merged with the main branch instead. How can you possibly cope at this stage
>>112911112>tfw you live long enough to see the unicorns castle falling at lastKek
>>112911296>an issue with the economy and 4th of julyHow would doing a concert with 15 members from all branches instead of a big holoEN concert affect any of that
>day by day I feel like the hololive that I kinda like remember and came up with is the days are gone you know nothing lasts forever mori...
>>112911323cover is hitting the button, trust the plan.
>>112911253She sounded really sure so either she is extremely retarded with her fear or she knows more than "just a theory"
Here come the SEA and yuroposters to explain why scheduling a concert on the third most important holiday in the US isn’t a problem
>>112911257Literally only 30% of the seats are sold right now. It's gonna look like a dead town in a few weeks
>>112911169Some of her earliest supporters that are still around from her blue times are Japanese and she has a surprisingly dedicated JP fanbase that has been working on clipping as much as possible with JP subs.
>hololive is deadmeanwhile
>>112911323Outrageous
>>112911278The one member who is also in a contract with a major music label gets solo lives, wow>>112911280Yeah she's finally getting 1 lol, nobody else in EN has. Kiara and Ina were forced to do a duo live, no one else in EN will ever even get that chance even for a CC/GG duolive
>>112911356>oly 30%Holy shit, it's that fucking bad?The fuck did EN do to make their fans leave en masse like this?
>>112911350anyone secret oshi got in?
Latest Holoyabhttps://x.com/nakiriayame/status/2069280214535021054
>>112911347world tours are downsized.And across the world.That being said, that is a mori assumption, i thin cover would just do another in a smaller venue.But also depends on how expensive America gets in the coming months.
>>112911374>moving goalpostsYou really love humiliation, don't you?
>>112911326>And sponsors usually care a lot about percentage of seats filled over total seats solddo they even have any sponsors besides amiami this year?
>>112911296Might be wise to have the concert in Canada. An American concert is a “Hololive fan gets deported to the Congo by ICE” away from really bad press for Cover. Might as well have the concert in North Korea at this point.
>>112911356>Literally only 30%It's so fucking over, kek. Merge time soon
>>112911296whats there to say? The current admin is largely to blame for prices becoming prohibitive, and there is no easy fix so even if a new admin comes in, conditions will largely stay the same. MAGA voters are dumb fucks who voted in a dumb fuck. I'll be fine though since i'm rich.
>>11291134715 most popular members from all branches > 15 EN (most of which would be mid-tier at best)Surely you don't think - just for example - replacing bottom 3 of EN with 3 first army or close to first army members wouldn't help selling tickets faster
>>112911356>Literally only 30% of the seats are sold wasn't that nimi concert?
JP viewers having a crazy time in Biboo's chat right now
https://x.com/cover_corp/status/2069319910183067789Jimmy Suspended>"suspended me indefinitely or Until further investigation" >due to disagreement at work with the commanding and management office.
>>112911356>went from sold out to 30% full in a single yearI told you retardsNo Gura no buyGet fucked, kek
>>112911362>almost 2k for a niji homoBotted?
>>112911375is 10k out 12 sold
>>112911341She said she *scared*. And that it *might*. She even said that she hopes that she is wrong. In other words, nothing conclusive.
>nijiENricoGEZAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>112911356Goddamn, EN is so cooked
>>112911375It’s actually only 15%.
>>112911400Kek good one
Where are these people getting their percentages?
>>112911362not the cliobots again
Kronii is a whore
>>112911374Why is this an issue for you? No one else in EN has the numbers that IRyS does, and she is already an ant compared to Morin Whether or not anyone else in EN can’t have sololives is not true but either way a moot point because they couldn’t without the numbers regardless of the company policy
>>112911112>less japan arcs>less idolshitgood.
>>112911407
>>112911356>Literally only 30% of the seats are sold right nowdead branch at last
>>112911356>>112911375>>112911391>>112911403Sorry, wrong concert. That was Skyline Serenade.Serenade, Sereskibidi, both have Sere-; It's easy to get them mixed up, you know?
In Hololive EN, the day always ends with everyone raiding Biboo or IRyS
>>112911389if you're so focused on the safety of people traveling from all over the world, you might as well just have it in Japan. It will be cheaper than Canada for Cover and the travel will be about the same.
>>112911408I mean 10k is not bad, but considering its a branchwide event, them not selling out the venue is a bad look for sponsors/future organizers
>>112911356>30% soldThe writing is on the wall, indeed
>>112911392I made $20K doing absolutely nothing this year because of the orange retard’s economy so who’s to say if it’s good or bad
>>112911414She has no say on any of that, the fact that she's even openly doomposting obviously means that it was in discussion at some point after seeing the abysmal ticket sales for the upcoming concert
>>112911436Of course.
>>112911434World tour would require *more* JP arc and idolshit unless your oshi is one of the bottom tier members, retard. Instead of one big EN concert you'll have 4-5 smaller concerts
>>112911442you did that on purpose, didn't you
>>112911356>Can't even sell half of the ticketsyears from now, the rise and fall of HoloEN will be studied
>>112911432Because only 1 member historically having a sololive, which will now be 2 with Irys, is not a good look for people arguing that "oh well now EN will be able to actually do sololives if they don't have the EN concerts in the future."
>5 years annivesary mogged by fvcking mori and RirikaGRIM!!!!!!!!!
>>112911356>Literally only 30% of the seats are sold right nowHumiliation ritual
>>112911394All botted boring 3view blm homo whores kek
doki,mint concert sold out already??!
>>112911459ah so less streams from holoEN nothing new then
>>112911455Not the first time Mori or Kiara have doomposted something that was entirely in their imagination.When the more positive members (i.e: Biboo) started doomposting about it, I will be worried
>Holokeks having to pivot to Phase and Niji about their failed branch because they can't cope anymore now that their fat pink whore couldn't absolve their fears and reinforce their cope about serenkekity
>>112911356
>>112911475>Only 3K ccvWho said Pippa is the titan of the EN vtubing scene?
you know there's not a single holofan here right now or they would've corrected that
>>112911490>>112911442
>>112911471Aqua, Watame, and Towa would not have gotten sololives in current year, and as you dismiss Mori we can dismiss Sora and AZKi. It took just as long for JP to get strong enough to meet the standards Mori and IRyS do
30% sold out vs cancel concert 2times
>>112911475phasefags explain I thought you guys were number 1 in the west
>>112911501we went from not sold out shitpost to 30% bullshitting with nobody bother fact checking it lol, this board is dead
>>112911459>He said this when we already barely have any EN stream todayAnd no, Biboo "pandering to the JP" stream didn't count
>>112911497Well Biboo never has and never will doompost, the only members that have and will are Kiara/Cali/Kronii.
>>112911501see>>112911422>>112911408
