Mori talking about how Serendipity might be the last full EN concert if things don't sell well>I really hope we get a 5th one though. I dunno deadbeats. I don't wanna make any assumptions but I get kinda scared that the writing's on the wall. This might be the last one>I really wanna be wrong I really wanna be wrong I wanna be wrong so bad I really really want to. I really want to but....I dunno. No dooming. There are just some things, some writing on the wall things that have me going I don't know if we're going to do another - I hope so.>What I feel like - what I'm nervous it might be - what I really don't want it to be but I think it might end up being is like a world tour situation where they choose like 15 people from all of holo and send them to America for a concert instead of all of EN. That's just what I think it's going to end up being like>So just enjoy Serendipity. We gave it our best.https://files.catbox.moe/ljc2gv.mp4
Thank god. If we can demonstrate that there's no longer demand for concertslop, then Cover can shift the focus back to streaming, and the girls won't have to sacrifice their health practicing rigorous dance routines every day.
>>112936060shut up spoiled bitch you're going to keep getting stuff handed to you
>>112936060Has she considered management might want to shake things up because if the 5th concert is just EN only again, it's the same cast for three years in a row?
>>112936107>practicing 3 months for a pre recorded 3 min dance that they could just splice together from good takes why are they like this? at least idols do shit live repeatedly
>>112936150Because motion capture still isn't perfect. Live capture is a risk for anyone, and having someone's model start to spazz out in the middle of a performance would ruin the entire thing.
>>112936192I'm not telling them to do it live retard
>>112936060>>What I feel like - what I'm nervous it might be - what I really don't want it to be but I think it might end up being is like a world tour situation where they choose like 15 people from all of holo and send them to America for a concert instead of all of EN. That's just what I think it's going to end up being likeThat would be a RETARDED miscalculation/overcorrection on Cover's part tbhdesuJust run it in a smaller venue and fire the retarded event planner who decided to have the concert be on a Holiday lol
>>112936060these bitches want endless support from their fans. buy merch, supas, memberships, concert tickets etc. meanwhile these whores can’t even stream consistently
>>112936060>EN concert didn't sell wellBut all the tickets sold out within minutes of them going up? How much more could you expect? Sell all the tickets within minutes and also sell tickets that don't exist?
>>112936396No, the current concert is not sold out. You're thinking about last year's concert which sold out pretty quickly
>>112936060She's still mindbroken and no smarter?Again, being a company working worldwide is absolutely fucked and retarded right now and on top of that Cover packed bunch of cash into projects that all imploded spectacularly.Obviously stepping back and focusing on Japanese market is a smart thing to do from business perspective and EN/ID girls should be happy that they still have job, even if they are left on backburner till things will get better.Also crying for pity views is usually getting reverse effect...
>>112936405Huh, if I were to guess i'd say having the concert be in one of the most expensive cities during one of the busiest seasons while both 4th of July and Fifa are happening WHILE ALSO the cost of living is going up globally probably wasn't the smartest call.Not only that but a lot of the hardcore fans who also go to these events still have a financial dent from HoloFes happening 3 months ago
>>112936426> being a company working worldwide is absolutely fucked and retarded right nowThis clip here cuts off the important part where Mori is attributing it to the Geopolitical situation dragging the economy down.>Also crying for pity viewsYou're retarded nigga, this shit is from a memgen lol
>>112936466Trying to blame timing or location is dumb. It's in the same city and during the same time as Anime Expo, which most of its audience is also probably attending. Same as every other time.
>>112936060Shit sold out 10k tickets though???
>>112936631Fifa couldn't even fill the stadiumpeople are broke.
It would have sold out if they'd put it in literally any other city, they were retarded to put it in one of the worst cities in the country, on one of the busiest weekends of the year, in the middle of the world cup when all the prices are jacked up
>>112936712August would have also been better since it was further away from other events.
I'm not watching the clip, but just based on the green text, this seems like it's potentially a misinterpretation of what she's saying. It might not be because EN is doing badly but because Cover is moving in a new unification direction post-homo failure...which means EN losing its identity, which Mori is probably not happy about.Yeah, it could just be "EN sucks" but if, for example, the plan is to include ID girls in this "world tour", that would make no sense.In any case, nothing in the green text suggests that whether or not something happens is based on the concert's success.
>>112936107concert fags deserve the rope, they are the reason we are in this mess
>>112936192Sora's done 11 paid Lives over the past decade, all actually live, with minimal hiccups. And some of those early ones used older, janker tech than what they have available now. Risk of "spazzing out" or whatever is not a legitimate excuse and never has been in relevant recent memory.
>>112937122Concerts and idolslop are the only reasons hololive still exists because it's the niche it chose and ran with. Without it you'd have less differentiation with niji's generic virtual avatar streamer shit and it'd be rife with homocollabing and other cancer. This niche means that only girls who want to do this kind of stuff will apply and get in, acting as filter, albeit an imperfect one, to keep out the tourist twitch ethot trash and the like.They need a better balance perhaps because the idolslop that kept them a cohesive thing might be the thing that kills them by taking down their talents one by one kekIronic
>>112936060>what I really don't want it to be but I think it might end up being is like a world tour situation where they choose like 15 people from all of holo and send them to America for a concert instead of all of ENOh no, the japanese corpo with a lot of great japanese talents might mean in future world tours are a perdominantly EN group with a best-of-the-best offering of performances from the jp and id branches, how awful! As a denizen of the world from outside america who likes hololive in general this sounds absolutely awful! Just imagining a concert where I have baelz, bijou, ect, with a chance of also seeing korone or marine or risu or moona leaves me heartbroken!/sarcasm if it wasn't obvious.
>>112936060Good then maybe I can come back once the girls actually stream consistently again
Half of EN barely streamsEN rarely does anything together beyond 1 on 1 collabs Has to be forced to do ENReco If people are losing interest or don't see EN unity it is on the people in it. Yes, I'm sure management is shit.Yes, there are timezone challenges that doesn't really affect other branches but tough (especially when so many EN live in Japan now)
>>112936060>Serendipity might be the last full EN concertInshallah.
>>112936651Fifa is asking thousands for tickets holy false equivalence
>>112936060Blame the event manager. Kinda set them up for failure with such a whirlwind combination of bad choices in this event planning. >>112936107>>112937122>>112936273>>112938528>>112939031It's really impossible to take posts like these seriously.
>>112937332If holo was as good as you niggas claimed then they could just stream and stand out
>>112936107That would be nice. I've never been interesting in chuubas singing anyway
>>112936060If they don't get another free yearly concert that's actually good because they need to get their fucking shit together and start focusing in streaming, interesting streaming projects and collabs and to get back all the viewers who left. More hype, more interesting personalities and so on, less selfiish personal projects. I still remember the dogshit that was TAN because there was no one telling them what is funny and what is a waste of time.
Like Cecilia said, "if you don't like it then leave" and that's exactly what most people have done due to several factors, some as the lack of streams, the lack of variety, no new talents, almost null cultural growth, the stagnation is oh so very much real and then there's the corpo idiocy and the homocollabers. Hololive has sabotaged itself for years. Hell Serendipity didn't even get a MV lol.
>>112936466maybe it was meant to be sent out to die to kill EN
>>112937332What idolfags have to yell themselves when that's just pre 2024 holo and they were on top
Why can't she just keep shit like this to herself? Nobody watches streams to see their oshi be a doomer, all it does is make them feel like shit for not being able to help
>>112936060Mori being the face of EN is a bad thing. Who could've guessed?
>>112936405Last year didn't sell out either.
>>112936107>the girls won't have to sacrifice their health practicing rigorous dance routines every day.The malicious compliance in the EN branch started in 2022 and never had any connection to dancing at the 3D studio. There are several JP talents who frequently show up in 3D lives and they stream over a 1,000 hours a year. EN talents have been fighting with management and it got extremely heated in the months after Sana's graduation. Ina, Sana, and Kronii asking for model redesigns would explain that far more than dancing. Cover did give a redesign to IRyS and Vesper so we already have evidence that was a recurring issue with the EN branch.>>112936273When management is constantly fighting with employees shouldn't you blame management? If Cover had competent management they would have found a reasonable compromise years ago.>>112942435The fan enthusiasm for Hololive EN concerts declined after the 2025 graduations so Cover has made a lot of big mistakes.
>>112936273This.
>>112936060>Mori talking about how Serendipity might be the last full EN concert if things don't sell wellGood.
>>112936060I don't know why Cover hasn't been able to adapt EN according to what actually works for the talent and their audiences. I know they're dedicated to maintaining the virtual idol allure, but forcing everyone to be both individual and unit performers when it doesn't play to their strengths and separates them from the core fanbase for long lengths of time is clearly seeing diminishing returns.
>>112942435>Last year didn't sell out either.This is kind of a false equivalency, AFO had like a 95~% capacity then TicketMaster randomly dumped a bunch extra tickets on the week concert without telling anybody
>>112943003>model redesign model redesign model redesign Shut up
I feel sorry for the wigger but most of the cool people have already left holoEN, so it's hard to get excited about events like this.ENReco 3 was also miserable.
What does this mean for the Hololive Card Game?
>>112947620This is correct, when I purchased my ticket nearly everything was sold out except for a few seats on the side, which is what I bought.
