HoloEN concert status? How well is this doing?
>>113064990I don't know, I don't watch Hololive
>>113064990did they even sell out?
only 80% full on both daysMori pretty much confirmed this will probably be the last EN concert for a minute because reception has been lukewarm
>>113065074Grim
>>113065074Good, there's too many. Maybe they could have something later in the year only for talents who feel like joining instead of a branch-wide thing or something, but the two part combo with fes just a few months ago is way too much.
why are holoCHADS not buying tickets?
>>113065074I think it's obvious that Mori has been dooming and shilling this concert so fucking hard because she's the one that's actually in charge of it and she's so desperate for it to succeed not because it will make or break HoloEN but because it will make or break her own career.Other holos have been stressed about preparations and dance practice but nobody other than Mori has had such a professional obsession with the concert and its prospects.
>>113065074>Mori pretty much confirmed this will probably be the last EN concert for a minute because reception has been lukewarmSource: My Ass™
>>113064990Don't really care either way, I'll watch it online. Not gonna go to LA hellhole especially in summer during world cup and july 4th shitFUCK that
>>113065225No stream no buy
>>113065374Whoever planned that is a retard.
>>113065343Not him but is it really that surprising that major events hosted in the US are becoming untenable?>Tariffs and exchange rates inflate expenses for the company>venues and legal considerations already difficult coordinate because of timezone differences and language barriers>open political unrest and police crackdowns erupting unpredictably across the country>record low tourism rates means fewer people willing to travel to attend>global economic downturn and travel prices reduce travel and luxury spending on top of that.These are expensive and risky prestige events that Cover can point to in order to say "look at our western market penetration" but with costs and risks rising, attendance stooping and Cover's global growth stalled by political and economic circumstances beyond their control there just isn't really much point in keeping it yearly.
>>113065343Do reps, she spoke about it in a members stream. Clips and transcripts were posted.
>>113065336>why is the holo that loves live performing the most the one most worried about continued opportunities to performsome of you are so stupid you probably need a YT short to remember how to tie your shoelaces
>>113065074>this will probably be the last EN concertONE TIME IN A LIFETIME
>>113065476Ultra retarded. But they planned it for that time because some anime convention is on at the same time I think. One of the US en's should've fuckign fought for them to NOT hold it during the 250th july 4 + world cup etc., etc.
>>113065507>>113065897Big combo of these. Plus I don't even know why they want to do it during AX when the convention basically hates them anyway due to all their schizoid clauses and non-compete things. They don't even have a booth, just advertising shit like a maid cafe and merch partners. Somebody in their management team just loves sucking off California.
>>113065074>only
>>113065897It's a double edged sword. They probably figured that if people are going to be there anyway for various reasons, they will be more likely to also go for the concert. A lot of euros and people from all over the world in general came for the world cup, some of them are holo fans who will use the opportunity to see the concert as well.Yeah, it means that the hotel prices will be higher, but I'm not so sure whether the attendace is higher or lower because of all the events.
>>113065074Good, let's see if holoEN survives another year outside Japan.
>>113064990Shrine Auditorium has a 6.3k capacity.About 1200 seats are still available.Meaning only about 5000 HoloEN fans are willing to go to HoloEN's once-a-year 3D concert.
>>113066382>about 5000 HoloEN fans are willing to go to California
>>113065037No.
>>113064990i jerked off to the song, idk about the concert
>>113065074Thank fucking god, maybe the girls can actually relax and focus on streaming instead of breaking their bodies for this shit
>>113065225still waiting for a stream
>>113065074yeah but this has nothing to do with the concert itself but the fucking location again. I dont wanna spend half of my fortune for a 3-4 day vacation in Niggerland where the 3 days staying at a hotel costs me more than 3 months of rent here. And getting mugged or shot by some trannies isnt on my wishlist either so they can suck my ass.
>>113065037>>113065074Kwab
HoloEN is a failure.
>>113070374more like this vtubing fad is fading10 years or so has been a good run
>>113066182Don't forget the retarded jew war doubling airfare in an oil shock because pissrael wants to be the comically evil caricature they accused Germany of being
>>113065863I have those sproingy laces so I don't have to waste time tying them, nice try though.
>>113065074Just don't make concerts in that shithole of America ever again.
It is a massive FLOP>nobody buys concerts tickets>nobody watches MV>nobody will buy live streaming ticketsIts over really for hololive english.
>>113071370>80% full>A MASSIVE FLOPtrying so hard to doompost
>>113071486clueless
>>113068463Fuck you I want the idolshit. If I wanted streams Id watch an indie instead
>>113071486It's a flop to the investors and management.
>>11307148680% each night is disappointing.2024 Breaking Dimensions was 100% both nights with 0% total unsold2025 AFO was probably about 90% so that means 20% went unsold.2026 is looking like 40% of the total tickets going unsold.based on projections and history, 2027 EN concert if they have one will be 60% unsold
>>113072511>2025 AFO was probably about 90% so that means 20% went unsold.yeah this seems about right for /vt/
>>113072511>2025 AFO was probably about 90% so that means 20% went unsold.Smartest /VT/ poster here.
>>11307256090% each night. that is 10% unsold each night, so 20% total.you are not the smartest, are you?
>>113071247this desu. have all the concerts in japan and people will happily travel there to see it
>>113072511da maffs checks out
>>113072973I hope you're only pretending to be retarded
I really hope this means no more EN concerts. Please god.
>>113065507>Los Angeles debuff>Fuel prices still haven't adjusted to pre Iran Invasion numbers>4th of JulyThe only way this location could have been worse was if any of the World Cup matches were played in LA during that weekend.
>>113073206>Fuel prices still haven't adjustedThey have, but you're not ready to accept that yet.
>>113072511it's a far larger venue these numbers aren't directly comparable, and we don't know what the numbers are for streaming tickets which financially matter way more
>>113072973>you are not the smartest are you? Retard if 10% is unsold each night = total of 20% that also goes to 180% ticket is sold in total.
>>113072973Let each night have 100 tickets each.There are two nights, so 200 tickets total.90% of each night sold is 90 + 90 = 180 tickets.180/200 = 90%Please go back to school.
>>113072511>Connect the world 1 day event 5,600 approx seat capacity>Breaking dimension 2 day event 3,000 seat>All for one 2 day event 6,000 seat>Serendipitt 2 day event 6,300 seatIf they made the venue only 1,000 seat for 2 days in 2027 concert they will sold out instantly and its huge success for hololive en yaaay im so smart
This shit flopped
>>113064990the only buzz i have seen about this concert is people wondering why it is not close to selling outdensetsu, dokidoki, phasecon all had more positive buzz
>>113064990I decided not to go and put my tickets on sale but even at steep discont they won't sell
>>11306507480%? More like 60%
>>113074102that's because the other events have sovl, and the holo event is sovlless.
HoloEN is dogshit now. Of course this shit ain't selling.
>>113064990Don't care, this concert is SOULLESS The song for this is trash too
Based Camilo cocksucker farming reaction for his favorite brown dramatuber
>>113064990Can someone share the seat map for both days because I don't believe a hololive event still has 2k unsold seats
>>113074102they cant be as hype as densetsu or the cinema phase is producing
>>113074670They're going to preform at trump's 250 party right? All the actual talented people bailed and phase is pandering to the same group, sounds like a win-win.
>>113074856That would unironically be based as fuck.
>>113074342>>113074413>>113074455The Phasefag board rears its ugly, non-white head again.
>>113074856fun fact: Phase Origins 5th anniversary concert was on Trump's Birthday hows about that for some serendipity
>>113064990
>>113073263Yeah, months after people would've made plansPeople have jobs and have to request pto ahead of time you know
>>113074475he achieved more in his life that you probably, tranny.
>>113064990Idk, I only watch indies
>>113072511What kind of weird math is this? If it's 80% each night, then 20% didn't sell. Why are you doubling the percentage as if you were talking about the number of unsold seats?
>>113065074HoloEN is a failure
>>113072511Dam, if they only sell 70% next time then that's 60% not sold which means the majority of seats were not sold unlike what the numbers would suggest
>>113074887thanks for telling us you've tied your company's image to the ultimate zog puppet
>>113065225I bought
Whoever organized the concert dates and location is half the reason. The other half is EVERYONE IS FUCKING BROKE.
>>113079795Holocope
>Gura quits>EN dieslolIrys can join a JP gen
I feel like I saw this tread last year
>>113064990HoloEN doesn't have much of a future unless they debut a new gen with some real talent. Last year's graduations killed all momentum, and idol groups don't survive without momentum.
>>113079946*thread
>>113065074Good ending: They skip next year so EN chuubas can reorganize and have some proper hype built for the next one in 2028Bad ending: They skip next year, BUT replace it with World Tour bc Cover execs think the concert flopped due to idol fatigue instead of their awful planning.
I kinda hope it fails just enough to shake things up, When nerrisa sperged out a few minutes ago I decided I'm not even buying a stream ticket, I'll keep an eye on the yt feed for interesting one off streams but I'm probably going step back from this shit for a while, see if it blows over or not, I've just found myself getting annoyed by the direction of a bunch of stuff lately and being annoyed at what a bunch of anime puppets do isn't worth my time and attention.
>>113080250>When nerrisa sperged out a few minutes agoqrd?
>>113080850At the end of the collab when they were shilling the show nerrisa blurted about blood-raven which probably means that this middle-school-theater-class tier shipper slop is being promoted and I'm just not paying to watch that shit and don't want to encourage other Tallents to go down that path.
>>113081403I gave up on Nerissa when she embraced that ship
>>113081403>which probably means that this middle-school-theater-class tier shipper slop is being promotedThe suits are so obviously trying to replicate the money printer that is FWMC by pushing all these pairings for the concert.
>>113082073They are pushing forced units because they are running back the same concert talent as last year there are no new things to be excited for. EN is stale everybody knows it.
>>113072511Better than canceling them am I right , Sister ?
>>113082123Bro can't even comprehend the concept of a band performing two concerts.
>>113082303You gonna see every concert like a Deadhead?
>>113082123I can't believe they didn't replace all of holoEN like AKB48. What a ripoff!
The girls would never say it out loud but I bet most of them are tired of the endless recording & dance sessions because of this yearly concert. Fauna didn't even go in 2024. Mandatory shit like this is probably a big reason why she left.Let it rest in 2027, but introduce EN5 in the meantime. A good group will invigorate the branch & then they can try again in 2028 (in NEW YORK)
>>113072321Something it's a flop only when your investment didn't have any revenue you retard.
>>113082744Cope
>>113074670TENMA GREMLIN
>>113082785No u
>>113082661I think that depends on how many of them are idol pilled/song-grifters like Suisei and Mori
>>113082661>people still think it's all mandatoryNo, it's all optional.They are not forced because they're not employeed with Cover.Both Shiori and Fauna said the same thing.The problem is about perspective and how you're going to be seen by your public and staff if you refuse such event, like it's going to be something you'd be missing out, an opportunity.
>>113083052Reddit
>>113079857En Concert peaked last year which had no Gura, Mumei, Ame, or Fauna
Having more events in the west as opposed to the nth event in Japan is cool and all. But goddamn has there been way too many large scale concerts or events. It has completely eaten up streaming time and just general downtime for the talents. I've seen many tweets and heard many woes about how they're all on an extreme time crunch and jam packed with strict deadlines to really have any moment to breathe. And this is coming from someone who loves seeing them thrive in these big events and seeing all their hard work pay off. Hololive has strayed too far from their original purpose of providing entertaining streams for their viewers that it's burning out both avid watchers and the talents themselves.
>>113084860I mean it's really really really hard to surpass that Alice&U performance
>>113082661>using Fauna as the canary in the coal mine good joke, she never wanted to be an active idol who travels to japan to dance and sing
If you 60% is then 20% so 50% yes and 20% plus which means 10% profit on day 1 and 50% day 2 sale on stream
>>113065336She's not in charge of it, she was talking about trying to give some pointers to the people in charge of it. But she's dooming to guilt people into buying tickets, and she probably realizes that if all of EN struggles to sell out just two (2) concerts, Cover will never give Mori that concert tour she wanted.
>>113085572>If you 60% is then 20% so 50% yes and 20% plus which means 10% profit
>>113081403sucks to be you i guess
>>113079857It's worst than that. Hololive ended up destroying everyone connected to their largest vtuber talent for an entire year before they eventually got to her(her oshi, her best friend, her closet vtuber friend, half of a vtuber group she was a part of; another half of another vtuber group she created; even the support who helped act as a bridge between EN and JP.Gura was one of the few vtubers in Hololive who actually brought Hololive merch behind the scenes as a fan and they broke her.
>>113084860last years was the worst of the EN concerts so far and no one in my friend group I went with liked it. Crowd was super low energy compared to the previous ones. If i were to guess where the start of the current woes for EN began, it would be with that one.
>>113086186>last years was the worst of the EN concerts
>>113083293>They are not forced because they're not employed with Cover.>Both Shiori and Fauna said the same thing.No one has said that all the concerts are optional and some of them would skip Holofes and the main EN concert if they could. Even stuff like Holosummer (and Valentine's Day merch) was mandatory in the early years or they wouldn't have been able to get every single talent to join. Cover has recently started letting talents have more control over what they can join but even in 2026 they still forced talents to join the first and last day of ENreco. The constant merch shilling and sponsorships have increased in Hololive. Most talents are okay with that but talents working as contractors doesn't mean that management doesn't have expectations for how much revenue they should bring into the company.>>113084860The 2025 concert was the first EN concert that had 10% of their tickets available on the last day while the 2026 concert will have 20% of their tickets available. The graduations did hurt the EN branch and there is a good chance they will reduce the venue size for 2027.
>>113086705>some of them would skip HolofesTo date, 3 girls have skipped Holofes and 2 of them are still in Hololive
>>113086705>The 2025 concert was the first EN concert that had 10% of their tickets available on the last dayIt was also the biggest, with 6k seats x2 days. Both the other ones had 6k seats once, and 3k seats 2x. They were also rather expensive, but the show still sold well and turnout was good. >The graduations did hurt the EN branchThe graduations happened last year. Being in a meme city during a holiday with high flight costs and a weak yen hurt it for everybody, domestic and foreign. If graduations were more than 10% of the missing ticket sales, you'd have seen it last year.
>>113084819Yeah, that's (you)
>>113086705>i actually give source about Shiori saying it's all optional>NOOOOO SHE NEVER SAID IT!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drAHQYDVuxg>"it's all optional"Now, since you're gonna say "but she's talking only about voice packs!!", show me proof about how they're forced to go to concert.
>>113080250unironically if this flops it could mean that the girls can stop pretending to be idols and go back to streaming minecraft, you know, the thing people like them for
>>113087440>streaming Minecraft Sorry, the adults are talking here.
>>113087447did you not see the suit im wearing, im clearly a big boy
>>113086135She had health problems
shocking to see holodrones admit that hololive is not a brand that can be a draw in the biggest city in america on a big anime weekend when 500,000 anime fans are in attendance
> has strayed too far from their original purpose of providing entertaining streams for their viewers that it's burning out both avid watchers and the talents themselves.No its original purpose is being a virtual idol company.
>>113086135This is the most deluded chumshitter cope I've ever seen. Gura made it exceptionally clear she was the only one in EN's history that gave no shit about hololive outside of her faggy clique.
>>113087604>he still thinks people love americaOn the contrary, i'm proving that your country it's a shithole and better make the concert fail rather than go there.
>>113087604the hololive name has never meant less in the west than it has right now
>>113068463Yeah this totally explains why the girls who weren't given a chance to have their own concert ended up quitting.
>>113065137Part of this is true. They refuse to acknowledge the financial situation the world is in and are heaping the blame on the girls. Not fair, not true.
>doki concert did better than expected>densetsu concert did better than expected>phasecon did better than expected>holo concert is well below expectationsfunny how the circumstances didnt really hurt other events
>>113088673What were the expectations for these other events and who was setting them?
>>113065074>this will probably be the last EN concertPlease god let this be true.
>>113088831>What were the expectations for these other events to reach capacity>who was setting them?the people who booked the venues.
>>113086705>The 2025 concert was the first EN concert that had 10% of their tickets available on the last dayBecause they started selling those tickets like a week before the concert date.
I wonder if kobo figured out how much food money to bring, surely this small indie company can cater for the “poor” indonesians?
>>113064990>sloppy seconds - the concerthope it doesnt sell even one ticket
>>113088673>funny how the circumastances didn't really hurt those cheaper eventsI'm starting to nooooootice
>>113065939California has the largest number of Japanese-Americans.
>>113090281phasecon was 2x more expensive than the holoen concert
>>113090758And had, like, 1/5th or 1/6th of HoloEN concert's daily capacity
>>1130910812k vs 5k
>we ran a bigger venue>that means we are doing greatholo cope
>>113088673>>113088890Funny that Niji isn't mentioned at all in this post.
>>113087920>Unsolicited poverty thirdie post>>113090724Japanese Americans aren't real.
>>113090758>Phasecon>Single Day Badge: $45 ($40 if purchased before May 1st)>Full Weekend Badge: $75 ($70 if purchased before May 1st)>Phase Community Badge: $105 ($100 if purchased before May 1st)>Holoconcert>Front Orchestra & Loge: $225 (includes exclusive T-shirt bonus)>Middle Orchestra / Front Balcony: $175>Side Orchestra & Balcony: $150>Rear Orchestra / Middle Balcony: $135>Rear Balcony 1: $110>Rear Balcony 2: $952x more expensive right?
>>113087604Don't care. Only JP matters
