Pink flamingo Edition>What is /lig/?/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.>Why /lig/?Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.>Wait isn't that one a corpo?/lig/ is a thread for chuubas of a decent size who aren't defined by their corporate branding, either due to the small size of the corporation or the independence and lack of oversight granted to the talents>/lig/ Numbershttps://lignumbers.neocities.org/>Twitch Clips Guidehttps://pastelink.net/34vd5>VOD Archival Guidehttps://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide>/lig/ VOD Archivehttps://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig_>Koikatsu cardshttps://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA>/lig/ Wheel of Nameshttps://wheelofnames.com/5jh-93j>Tiermakerhttps://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg>Upcoming BirthdaysJuly 10th - CamilaJuly 11th - YenkoesJuly 12th - PeepeeheadJuly 20th - Callie CalicoJuly 23rd - ShondoJuly 24th - ShxtouJuly 28th - Eros ValentyneAugust 5th - ShylilyAugust 6th - TobAugust 11th - Delutaya & ViennaAugust 12th - Silvervale & Yanderae>OC material for the OPhttps://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw>/lig/booruhttps://ligbooru.moe/>Duckshttps://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed)Other useful threads:>>>/vt//big/>>>/vt//corpo/>>>/vt//choc/>>>/vt//flip/>>>/vt//haha/>>>/vt//indie/>>>/vt//mint/>>>/vt//swarm/>>>/vt//vrt/>>>/vt//xvsj+/Previous Thread: >>113359284
I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
I love my wife
uuu
>>113361858Olivia monroe drone strike my penis with her laser precision pussy send post
In 12 Days it'll be Shondo's birthday, show your appreciation by making a tile for her birthday card! Standard card rules apply: Submissions must be SFW and have dimensions that are a multiple of 200 (i.e. 200x200, 400x400, 200x400). On top of that:>Her neck and wrists must be obscured at all times, either by her ribbons or by something else (for lore reasons that are very important to her)>Shondo is flat as a board, don't give her any kind of cleavage>No AI artSome things she likes for inspiration:>Her friends (non-inclusive): The Barbies, Moriko, Alice Sawyer, Lucy Pyre, Anny, Saruei, Filian>Her cat and manager Otis>(You) (me)>Movies: Horror, Disney, Barbie>Breaking Bad>Serial killers>Games: Sims, Bloons, Outer Wilds, Half-Life series, Blue Archive (especially Hina), Saya no UtaModel references and cat pictures:https://mega.nz/folder/Nvc1XaJJ#aiDk1B0YsESNZ8FXPaBdDwhttps://x.com/managerotisThe deadline for the card is July 23rd at midnight EST. That's 5am BST and 9pm July 22nd for PST. Make sure you get your tiles in before then
ligger for this feel
>>113361898>>113361886>>113361877These are someone's fat gay hairy balding sons.
>>113361914yeah memy oshi is bat btw
>>113361537Only fucked up thing is the cookie AND shake AND mcflurry, that's too much sugar, I'd swap the shake for another burger like the fillet o' fish
Barbie love!
>>113361858Old Oli eyes would fit more
I hope Layna dies of cringe after her low testosterone suitor didn't ask her doctor about Testoviron
>>113361858When's the next bar mitzvah?
Thanks for this "list" Ikumi jannies very nice and totally not retarded
In 9 days it'll be Callie Calico's birthday, show your appreciation by making a tile for her birthday card! Standard card rules apply: Submissions must be SFW and have dimensions that are a multiple of 200 (i.e. 200x200, 400x400, 200x400)Some things she likes for inspiration:>Her friends (non-inclusive): 3AM, Southside, Yoroyoyo, Charlotte Bear>Games: Resident Evil, MegaMan, LISA The Painful, Silent Hill, Clinical Trial>David Cage (She's very passionate about how poorly written his games are)>Anime: Space Dandy, Panty & Stocking, Higurashi, Full Metal Alchemist, Avatar TLA>Manga: Higurashi, Dungeon Meshi>Cartoons: Venture Bros., Metalocalypse, King of the Hill, South Park>Evil Dead>Cats>Chococat>Wrestling (her favorite wrestler is Mick Foley)>Big, Hairy, Capable/Goofy Men (very non-inclusive): Chris Redfield, Dick Gumshoe, Laios Touden, Henchman 21, Bigby Wolf, Gaston, Disney's PeteModel references and cat pictures:https://mega.nz/folder/8u1EADaC#rxn-t2zL2UgKCWRZXwlcvwhttps://catbox.moe/c/k941wr
>>113361902meat
>>113361924The Fillet o' Fish isn't a burger, it's a sandwich.
>>113361858Imagine getting your dick sucked by an intercontinental ballistic missile
>>113361858Is this that discord streamer with the cult following?
>>113361961That's a cruise missile but I see the vision
>>113361961that's clearly not an ICBM you fucking caveman
>the mpreg has hit the ikumi streamoh no
>>113361996You won't know the difference when it's sucking you dry
okay but sex with meat
>>113362003cirmea status?
>>113362024pretty decent i think
https://www.twitch.tv/elara
i hate ikumi
>>113361858Olivia Mondrone haha get it
>go to bed>michi streaming>wake up>michi streaming>go do groceries>michi streaming>come back home>michi streaming>take nap>michi streaming>wake up>michi streaming>go make lunch>michi streaming>eat lunch>michi streaming>go jerk off>michi streaming>clean up>mich istreamingwhats her problem
Milky!https://www.twitch.tv/milky
okay but mex with seat
>>113362053whoa boobies
>>113362078nothing to do besides earn money playing games
bon
>>113362003tzd
Fish
>>113362101*cums*
quick michi stream
I love my dog
>https://www.twitch.tv/tobsEarly Tob time
>>113362125this is giving me a seizure
slutkumi is saying yes to everything
>>113361792She didn't know what free use was
>>113362137How's Niko doing?
Ikumi put rapeplay in top tier
She put rape at the top
>rape
>>113362104want to peel luli's shorts off
>>113362167>>113362176>>113362180the most generic female take
>>113362176>BDSM plus videogames?
are inis nitya and grape good at nightreign now?
I will never want to stop raping ikumi after this stream
>>113362176Ikumi my totally regular honestly bland and not-outstanding foidwife...
>>113362143
>>113362180>>113362176>>113362162Isn’t this the “Dark Elves” loverThis is not very surprising then lmao
>>113362176>>113362167>>113362180They all say this but then get traumatized when you try to rape them
BDSMatvideogames
>>113362211Are you lost faggot?
tomboy liggers like this?
>>113362162Still skinny as far as I'm aware
>>113362220Bat has weird fetishes
[Grape news] No one cums inside without her permission
>>113362217Why did you put Dark Elves in quotations?
>>113362229Blame the jew that made the OP pic.
Can't wait for her to get to the blacked tag
>>113362024she's a lesbian
>>113362231Jets
>>113362229Speed
>>113362231jets
>>113362272I guess it's rape then
what the fuck is this tag list ikumi is doing
simon moment
>>113362176>>113362180I always see vtubers put rape / CNC / coercion / etc at the top, but then they put things like femdom or role reversal high as well. I don't believe they're actually kinky enough to want to be dominant and instead are just pandering to lonely viewers. I always wonder to myself just how honest they're being when they make their hentai tags tier listI do think the rankings for coercion are probably authentic, though
simon trying not to be retarded challenge (impossible)
How do I make her my girlfriend
>>113362251[Tanya news] You can clap her cheeks if you want
>>113362256Because she used it when she (for some reason) talked about only fucking black guys since she moved to the city
>>113362326I will imagine my oshi raping me either way
>>113362104fish(?)
>Fujo Friday confirmedHaha, yay
>>113362338usually one needs to confess to the girl
>>113362256https://files.catbox.moe/n8yppk.mp4
>>113362338Come to BinlandI'll give you few tutorial quests first in order to make you ready to date her
>>113362354slugwife
fuuuuuck
Margo schedule
>>113362364ew nigga
>>113362256He's upset she's not a racist chud
>>113362364why are her tits so big
>>113362297Skipped the first but I'm definitely getting this one
https://x.com/AI_EmeraldApple/status/2076008301331173653Luddcucks ruining vtubing...
>>113362364Why the fuck would you say this lmaoActual disgusting woman I hope she gets AIDS
>>113362382
>>113362364She's for the streets
>>113362378I'm planning on going to Finland during August (for the weather)Do give me some tips. No, I'm not looking for a Finnish gf
me and my sister pippa
>>113362378If I go to Binland I want alice
>>113362364dunmer do not claim this one
bat
>>113362393>No unbanning RES, and formal apology stream I sleep.
>>113362379I want to fuck this mollusk
>>113362404play the first one
New loli kaiju, Para was very excited to see her in the watchalonghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4fKq9elwZ4
>she doesn't like pissdropped
>>113362440Where is the rest.
Nitya is spawning the pling plongs
miioids spamming their cuck fetishes on cooldown we hate you
>>113362417
>>113362338https://youtu.be/vnVFZIByQHYDo you really want a girlfriend? Wouldn't you prefer a extension of yourself to love?
>>113362401Difference between not being racist and openly being a non-black, black supremacist like that’s just really weird lmao
>>113362470https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdqCY_DBbs0
>>113362432Go to a lake
>>113362508rare miimii
>>113362483what about desparation/denial
>>113362508she was cuter like that
>>113362515It's also not what she says in the video so idk what you're on about
>>113362463Go away
>>113362382>>113362417>>113362508yoooooo is that the vtuber with the world cup curse
[Inis news] Her butt hurts
[Meat news]He sat on his nutsack
>>113362576lmao
>>113362530>>113362540precious memoriesbeen too busy upping my finance game to watch regularly but the channel sure has grown since 2021
[Gaspar news] He can't stop masturbating
got my tob hello :)
>lucy watching hikki video>seems to be taking it personallyI wonder why?
https://x.com/LichVtuber/status/2076035676810653930Can she beat bonnie?
>>113362529lake a at do even you do what
>>113362393 since when is margo playing FF14?? is she just starting or is she joining one of the collabs?
>>113362646Because it's profitable to appear that way to lonely losers
>>113362666Iunno
>>113362603
>>113362541LmaoYeah man a race fetishist girl who only fucks blacks deeeefinitely wouldn’t be a black supremacist you’re so right Like continue watching her if you want idc but quit being obtuse for the sake of it
rin coal
>>113362662>lake a at do even you do what
>>113362432https://www.visitfinland.com/en/articles/finnish-everyman-rights-the-right-to-roam/
>>113362688actual mental illness
>>113362176>free use peakbased
Layna's stream makes me wish I was dying instead of watching this crap
>>113362672If lucy has sex with me and is my gf I'll give her my whole bank account so thats way more profitable
im ikuming
>>113362688Did she say only?
>>113362741No it isn't, she would lose the rest of chat
>>113362326You're overthinking it. Everybody loves rape, it's a classic for a reason.
>>113362688Will you shut the fuck up this is not vtubers or vtubing discussion, go away
>>113362364I don't get why anon is replying to this so much she didn't say anything controversial
Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support
>>113362737She's not even live...
>>113362789nimi still has her chat
https://www.twitch.tv/ninoegyn
Fighting the desire to not be that one first time chatter who explains what the differences in fetishes actually are because the other chatters are too ignorant or embarrassed
>>113362821thank god
>>113362764No she didn't, but good luck reasoning with people like that
>>113362837hmm true true
why is lyra scared of collabing with other vtubers on stream
anal queen ikumi
>oh you want to fuck drow?>karaboga oogabooga
buttslut
>>113362845be yourself
>>113362314Juniper's diet situation is dire...She's gone full paleo/keto. Cottage cheese, meat sticks, and even fish straight out of the tin.
>>113362845This except the bartering system in fallout New Vegas.
Remember how Laynaschizo said he got professional help? What happened to that? >>110892362
>>113362364>>113362344Absolutely N'wah
>>113362875retard
hopefuly Ikumi drawanon is taking notes
>>113362880>>113362889>top tierEH??
>>113362914we have an ikumi drawanon?
>>113362900>Cottage cheese, meat sticks, and even fish straight out of the tin.Those are all delicious though?
>>113362904Hopefully he got off that mind rotting big pharma garbage
>>113362815
>>113362595Sex with that thing
what time is ingerland playing
>>113362900HOLY BBBBBBBASED
>>113362815kill yourself
>>113362953ten bongs
>>113362953I stream live every morning parasi. You know this.
I really need a peamjob from alice
Something tells me Iku likes sex
>>113362900>>113362966Just ate a whole bag of Buffalo Jerky for lunch today, was pretty awesome.
>>113362904I was just method acting so they'd let me out of the institution and you took it at face value
>>11336295340 mins innit
>>113362930yeah he has a lot of good work
Bloom celebrating and gaming https://www.twitch.tv/profbloomvtuber
>>113362918Vienna should be my wife
Need liggers as TF2 mercenaries
>>113362953In 40 bings
>>113363005
I have fantasized about Meat and Coqui being in an abusive relationship, Meat as the abuser.
>>113362989Loves choking but thinks that breathplay is EW?
farming every hello redeem just to feel an ounce of human interaction
>>113363049Why we got (You)s broMuch more potent
>>113363042Very cool Sigrid
she's collabing with all the souls youtubers
I have fantasized about parasi watching my gameplay.
>>113363049hi anon
>>113363009It's a bit funny in a positive way knowing what some of them look like because I happened to find them prior to vtubing. Ah, those ancient LoL streams, good times.
Just ate over 1000 calories of french fries in 3 minutes
>>113363043You're supposed to squeeze the neck arteries, not crush their windpipe, anon-chama
>>113362219Ugh women and their mixed messages
BUG IS LIVE!!
>>113363088why's she using her classic model?
got my beri hello :)
>>113362989>SomnophilaOne of those I just don't get. What's even the point.
Nino lovely
>there's a vtuber named omegaverse?Isn't that pretty close to the manager for the holos that people rrated about so much
>>113363103She has posted pictures of herself plenty of times as well and goes to cons physically so it's not really a secret anon..>>113363088This model was great, back when rain was still entertaining
parasi breathplay but its just how long I can withstand her breathing in my face
>>113363178The omegaverse is something far more worse than some faggot manager at Hololive.
>>113363162That's because you don't get the defilement women craveShe wants to wake up knowing she was used without him giving a fuck about her pleasure
Parasi gameplay, but it's just her watching my gameplay footage.
Callie is livehttps://www.twitch.tv/calliecalico
ouu essie channel... so popular now
got my para hello :)
>>113363162The idea of using a girl's body while she sleeps (or conversely getting sucked and fucked by a girl while you sleep) isn't appealing at all?
>>113363252
>>113363199kek
>>113363252She's a global menace
>>113363265nta but no
>>113363189It's just funny to know how much things have changed since first finding someone's channel. So many on the other hand are gone now.
>>113363261she isnt live >:(
>>113363252happy for the sheep
>>113363282which soundpost?
callie the calico is once again showing her hams on the camshttps://www.twitch.tv/calliecalico
>>113363278cuute
>>113363246She actually banned me, so I can't watch.
ehehe it tob
>>113363344ehehehee i liek tob
>>113363340No one fucking asked you dumbass
>>113363344I wanna cum in Tob
>>113363252She should open a rplay and do intense loving ball draining ASMR to celebrate
>>113363344
>>113362989somnophilia with alice while she sleepmumbles
>>113363252>gaining an average of 420 followers/hour
>>113363265Where's the fun in that?
>>113363368I posted disco snail for you
>>113363344I really like that little group all got matching models from that guy
>>113363378That would never happen... right?
>>113363376I wrote this post.
>>113363396Nice
I just want to hear Ikumi talk about paizuri I don't really care about anything else
>>113363409yippee!
>>113363425>I just want to hear Ikumi talkwhy
I don't care for somnophilia but intox is hot
>>113363405Ask ikumi she put it in top tier
The only way to have me root for Argentina to win the world cup is if momotexx offers to sell IRL bikini pics.
Ikumi's chat seems to be riddled with submissive men who would take it up the ass while watching her
When will a chuuba be brave enough to put snuff/gore/ryona/necro into S tier?
>>113363422This image is confusing because I don’t think Grimmi and Tob have interacted in at least a year if not longer
>>113363331>no flat earther has invested significantly in order to observe matters themselveskinda surprising really
>>113363441lol just kidding my ligga I fucking hate vtubers *does the secret anti handshake*
>>113363476>submissive men who would take it up the ass while watching herThis is /lig/.
I cummy
>>113363492Why would that be brave?
im addicted to futa vtuber ai slop of krek's artstyle. that shit is too good and i cant resist im sorry
>>113363492
>>113363378
>>113363531examples? I'm a visual learner
>>113363493That image is at least a year old
I'm addicted to my VODs being viewed by Parasi.
How much money have you guys made betting against Essie's team picks
>>113363494wdym plenty have
>>113363531No brain activity detected.
>>113363575Miia shattered her mojo. There's nothing worth wagering.
>>113363537AFAIK she never did a tier list but I could be forgetting
>>113363575None but wanting to support some of the ones who have major medical issues has played into me successfully investing lol
>>113363541>into spanking and torture but hates caningthe female mind is a mystery
ugly bastards are a nogo
>>113363541hehe the saars who aren't watching the stream will be pranked so hard
What did Essie mean by this?
>>113363645She loves you!
Lucy needs to be a free-use paizuri slave in a repurposed In-n-Out storefront somewhere with a big lit up sign that says BEST PAIZURI --> and theres a line of cars at the drive-thru every day
>>113363601like all the way to space and around the earth (whatever shape it really is)?
>>113363645that we must destroy all fujos
>>113363645Haaland is actually the 6'5 gigabottom Baoposter
>>113363645I think she meant to farm engagement.
>>113363546https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=16876893&tags=madamweaver+vtuber+>>113363608i am /here/ after all
>>113363634Spanking and torture are more intimate than caning. Caning is what you do to slaves
>>113363005Good game choice.
>>113363629okay but the point of the tier list is "these are the things she's into". if she's already showing it and talking about it openly what's the point of the list?
>I'm gonna lock your pants so you never use the toilet ha ha haNINA CHASTITY AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>113363645Looks like we're gonna have to shear her
>>113363662Thankfully my oshi is reformed
ikumi is adding oyakodon to her stream tags
>>113363645Time for her to collab with Beri
I'd be happy to watch Naiyo mutilate some other guy.
>>113363679Cause it'd be fun
>>113363683why is nina turning the shibes into pissbaby diaperboys
>>113363671kill yourself
>>113363656High altitude balloons and ship voyages and stuff yeahEither they end up changing their mind or double down on some new explanation like the atmosphere refracting
chiwa gone...
>>113363723its too early to have a melty. come back later
>>113361858Why did Oli turn into a vibrator?
>>113363655Lucy doesn't like paizuri anon she's flat and wants to be raped by tentacles
>>113363476Submissives taking it up the ass, you say?
>>113363494Some have like that guy that went to Antarctica to disprove the 24 hour day and prove flat earth, but he of course experienced the opposite and renounced flat earth after getting shook to his core.
God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)
>>113363755>Lucy doesn't like paizuriDo I look like I care?
>>113363671>AI patreon
BIG /LIG/ NEWSCallie is moist right now
>>113363796yes, some people are that retarded to join an ai patreon
>>113363808She also currently has me banned.
>>113363476I haven't seen them defending futaslop yet
domiki milky handcum
>>113363827Nobody cares, please kill yourself
>>113363673she has master/slave as "peak" though
>>113363741i am still sexualising her in my heart
>>113363847erm
>>113363864A different kind of slave
thinking about beribug's big bug butt
>>113363412I like the shine on bimbo Mint’s boobs
>>113362219Ur uglyThey want to be raped by gigachad rich celebrity man or a werewolf
>>113363655female coded post
>>113362944
>>113363882
>>113363847spoke too soon
>>113363921>Captura_de_tela
Watching the sheep with actual sex appeal
>>113363691so true
>>113363910trans coded post
>>113363986thanks that's what I meant
W I D E
>>113362364Genuinely disgusting Would rather she fucked dogs or something
not really anything going on here, but i dont want to get banned by a jannie in a bad dayhttps://files.catbox.moe/xdsiuh.pnghttps://x.com/jnstudi/status/2076029981868573028
>>113363964>futanari low tierfutafags btfo
>>113363908*gigachad rich celebrity werewolf
>>113363655This but also Milky and Mint Castella
>>113364001oh ok happy for you girl
>>113364031How many times does lig need to be told that most women don't like futa that's more of a gay man in denial thing
>virgin comes up>voice changes>instantly starts struggling>idc butshes a whore....
>>113362646She a neet
>>113364028giwtwm
Snuffy status?
>>113364086The worst thing you can be to a woman is an awkward, shy virgin...
>>113364086That whore I love..
>>113364134fat and lazy
>>113364086what?
>>113363278omg
>>113364136piwwo...
Fallen Shadow (England) vs Nina (Norway) just kicked off who you got
>>113362364hi meat
>>113364174Retard lmao.
>>113364174Lmao
>>113364174Are you retarded
>>113364086Falling in love with a whore (female vtuber) is a cannon male event.
>>113364174Nina is from Netherlands. Not Norway. Also they both banned me.
>>113364201hi zuma
>Nina (Norway)
cam on ingerland
Imagine getting banned by Norway.
>>113364174Looking forward to the recreation to the Sacking of Lindisfarne.
batzilians OUT
ZUM SQUAD ROLL CALL
>>113364174>Nina (Norway)
>>113364225>>113364228retards
thoughts on the /spvt/ content we've been seeing lately?
>>113364256WC match stickies are fun
>>113362688I hope youre having a nice weekend olivia
Bino is from Norway.
NORWAY
>>113364201Zum kinda stresses me out desu
>>113364242Bringing up the rear
>>113364201Zuma can I fuck your thighs and cum on your tummy
>>113364086Shes used goods...
List all the Norwegian liggers NOW
the indo-canadian batposter (singular)
Bino hasn't banned me, and she's from Norway.
>>113364174Norway will win!
>putting medium and small tits in s tier so the 2 female viewers dont feel alienatedIt's like when Lucy put yuri and yaoi in top tier because she's an ally
we don't fw norway
>>113364312ZumaBino
What's miia got to say?
https://www.twitch.tv/ruruhttps://www.twitch.tv/namocouple live
til that leaflit is pro generative ai, how many people cut ties with her because of that?
ligger facesitting
>>113363189simpler times
>>113364328She asked earlier if she had to rate small cock and medium cock since she rated huge cock already, but then she got distractedI doubt she has the guts to put small, medium, and huge cocks on different levels
ikumi is at videogames
>>113364315Want bonnie naked need English win
>>113364350Literally everybody outside of chudtubers dropped her over a year ago. The AI thing is just going to further alienate her
https://x.com/fuzukimiki/status/2075993424893726759
It's weird how many girls like that Haaland guy when he looks like a NeanderthalI've said my piece so call me brown all you want
>>113364346
https://x.com/shepgirl_/status/2075968473021485360
>>113364386You are so fucking retarded
>>113364406He is a tranny after all.
>>113364392Famous tall strong athletic energetic rich? White etc
>>113364399blessie or mufa-chan?
>>113364392some women just want to be clubbed and dragged back to a cave
>>113364419I don’t think Rebel is a transgender?
>>113364350All she does is ragebait these days. Anyone who still chooses to associate with her knows what they are in for at this point.
>>113364386>>113364406>>113364419RES stop samefagging your posts
https://youtu.be/CAVtxO96ESY
>>113364434Leaflit is a good girl
>>113364454What the fuck are you talking about, she burned all her bridges for chud money. Nice people don’t do that.
>>113364434wtf shonbaker is a chud?
But how can BDSM be at video games?
>>113363724>or double downwhat kind of footage would they need to be convinced? a personal trip all the way around?
>>113364385the president of indies
I think Kanna the blonde with golden eyes and little pointy ears and a big forehead is from Norway and she’s pretty cool
>>113363772woah
>>113364493tie them up with controllers
I'm at a wedding have I missed any liggings today?
>>113364524She could be. I know bino is of Norwegian heritage, but currently resides in Scotland. Bino told a story one time about how her grandfather would survive the winter in Norway with just a wood stove to see the northern lights.
>>113364493there's a reason it's in the idk what that is category
we know you aren't a virgin Ikumi
>>113364548missing out on eira being obsessed with pals right now
>>113364500Most flat earthers can't be convinced because they believe a round earth violates God's covenant with Man. That's all I'll really say on the matter.
>>113364548Parasi watched a RES VOD.
>>113364548I hope you're not that type of fag that goes alone tona wedding
>rates switch as top tier>rates service topping as top tier>rates power imbalance as top tier>rates bottom / top as peak tier>rates role reversal as high tier>rates femdom as slop tierDoes this woman know what the word "switch" means, or is she just saying things to say them?
>>113364350>>113364381Not very many people dropped her over the AI thing, she was already ostracized for being openly not liberal. It's part of why she's doing this AI model stuff in the first place, to give people an alternative when they're being strong-armed out of the VTubing medium for social or political reasons
>>113364648Are you taking a performative stream seriously?
>>113363005>>113363024Big Bloom dub
>>113364648Sex and romance is all vibe-based, and the words you use affect the vibes a lot
>>113364648What's inconsistent here?
>>113364649>what are vroids>what are booth models>what are customizeable models>what's pngtubingthe AI slop isn't needed nnor wanted
If a vtuber doesn't have their government name as their channel name then don't take them seriously. It's that simple.
>>113364524Too powerful for the liggy
>>113364649According to who? You have no idea why she's doing it, you've taken two things (that she was ostracized and that she's using AI) and constructed a motive that conveniently fits your worldviewPlus "being strong-armed out of the VTubing medium" is an interesting way of describing people choosing not to associate with someone because of their politicsDo tell what exactly is stopping these people from commissioning artists and riggers who agree with them? Why does the existence of social consequences suddenly mean they're being pushed out of the medium altogether?
>>113364682I think it's just a fluff post.
>>113364649Lmao come on this is so embarrassing isn’t it? Do you really think this?
>>113364694those feet look fat as fuck
cardfag and rin about to fight again
>>113364687Post yours.
>>113364743Why would you think I'd want to do that?
>hairy in ewikumi consistently being a disappointment with every new tag
>>113364694Harlot
>>113364694feetyum
>>113364695not to mention they could get a 'based' Japanese artist that give no fucks about western politics
>>113364632Glad it was mentioned because she will never talk about lewd stuff like this again
>>113364686All things that still leave you subject to the whims of the people who make them. Did you miss when Powdur went viral for being a chud while using a pre-made model and the creator of that model contacted her to enforce his copyright because he didn't like Powdur's opinions being associated with his model?>>113364695She retweeted this>>113364716Which part is embarrassing and why?
>>113364785Honey, have you seen my pussy shaped geode?
>>113364136It's weaknessWomen want strength (in all its forms) and there's nothing wrong with thatYou can be good and strong or you can be bad and strong but you cannot be weak
>>113364807Lowers the barrier to entry and you can literally be a vtuber with a 2 frame png that has a mouth open-mouth closed state.
>>113364807Simon tier retardation
>>113364807>woke western artists can revoke your PAID licence if you don't follow their will and demandsFuck artists.
>>113364802Japanese artists infamously will not work with indies in any capacity. They're so corpo-brained that you have to trick them by starting a fake company that you commission them through. This was a hot topic in /lig/ during its early years
>>113364811jesus christ marie, they're vaginerals
>>113364694Beautiful
I do not care for Ikumi.
>>113364682A top is the penetratorA bottom is the recipientA vers(atile) is the penetrator or recipientA dominant is the one that takes controlA submissive is the one that relinquishes controlA switch can take or relinquish controlFor example, she has service topping in top tier. A service top is basically a submissive top. But she rated femdom as slop tier, so that means she doesn't like someone service topping her, because she doesn't want to be dominant. So, naturally, she would be the service top. But she also just rated pegging in the bottom tier, so she can't be a service top, because she finds acting as the top gross. So she can neither be the service top nor bottom for the service top, but she has service topping as top tier. It's contradictory
>>113364807> Powdur went viral for being a chud while using a pre-made model and the creator of that model contacted her to enforce his copyright because he didn't like Powdur's opinions being associated with his modelGood it was likely a violation of the tos she didn’t read anyway when she decided she wanted to do rightoid grifting instead of her usual leftoid grifting. Politics vtubers deserve so much worse.
I will say there is something funny about the people who hate Leaflit the most for her free slop models are also the people who have 0 viewers and half of them don't even have active channels
>>113364874
>>113364884All the actual vtubers hate it but don’t want to get involved in petty drama over it with the chud audience. Why even bother when you can just continue to ignore Leaflit? She already burned her bridges with normal streamers anyway.
>>113364833And now you can have a fully animated 2D model>>113364840How so?>>113364882If they want to have their ToS be like that, that's their choice, but it's also people's choice to go somewhere else when those rules become a detriment. And Leaflit is offering an alternative
>>113364807>All things that still leave you subject to the whims of the people who make them.And AI models don't? Unless Leaflit personally trained every dataset, wrote every line of code, and owns every dependency involved, you're still relying on other people's work and other people's terms. You've just shifted where that dependence exists>Did you miss when Powdur went viralNo, I saw an example of a creator enforcing the license attached to their own workHow does one public dispute prove that VTubers are broadly being "strong-armed out of the medium"?>It was never about equitable voices in the VTuber space.Again, according to whom? You're taking a tweet that aligns with your politics and treating it as proof that every artist, rigger, and VTuber critic secretly shares the same motive>No more drama with artists who refuse to work with "right-wing" creatoHow many artists actually refuse? Enough to make VTubing impossible, or just enough to inconvenience a subset of people?>Anyone can do it nowPeople could already do it, vroid existed, pngtubing existed, premade models existed, free assets existed. Your argument has quietly shifted from "people are prevented from entering the medium" to "people don't want to deal with social consequences or other people's terms of service", and those aren't the same thing>Which part is embarrassing and why?Probably the part where you've gone from "Leaflit likes AI" to constructing an entire narrative in which AI is heroically liberating persecuted creators from an industry-wide ideological conspiracy. That's a much larger claim than the evidence you've provided
dramazzzzzboring
>>113364866Do you think she insist upon herself?
>>113364884I just think she's sort of spam. I see her posted here a lot, but there's not much appealing to her channel. That, and she flaunts meet up hotel parties. Not what I'm interested in supporting.
Leaflit's voice is horrible so I don't watch her
>>113364913It's true I'm in a secret discord with all the liggers and everyone hates Leaflit secretly
>>113364930>Lowers the barrier to entry and you can literally be a vtuber with a 2 frame pngRight, so the barrier to entry was already low. Your argument has again changed from "people are being pushed out of the medium" to "AI gives them nicer assets.">And now you can have a fully animated 2D modelSure, and that's an argument for convenience, not liberation>How so?Probably because you're framing "artists enforcing the terms under which they distribute their work" as some uniquely oppressive phenomenon that people need to be saved from>If they want to have their ToS be like that, that's their choice, but it's also people's choice to go somewhere else when those rules become a detriment.No shit, people are free to use AI models. Artists are free to attach conditions to their work. Viewers are free to dislike AI and stop watchingWhat exactly is the problem? Because so far you've described a market in which different people have different preferences and then reinterpreted that as evidence of ideological gatekeeping
gaping nino's cute little ass send post
Leaflift should colab with olivia
>>113364807It's really fucking cringe that humans are so tribal and America so polarized that AI being hated by the left means the right needs to like it
Ikumi's taste is kinda trash ngl
>walls of text
>>113364988Nobody likes politics streamers. It’s also why Coqui has been mostly ejected from the mainstream
>>113365011nino probably has a hairy anus and shes embarrassed by it
>>113364637I didn't get a plus 1 but the sister of the groom looked at me briefly for 1 second so I think I'm in
>>113364975Are you me?I clicked on her once years ago and immediately left after hearing her
>>113364949Most of those quotes aren't even from me. You asked for evidence behind Leaflit's motives and I gave it to you. None of this needs to be discussed in any more depth, it can all be extrapolated from Leaflit's words and actions>>113365000>What exactly is the problem?I have no problem. Other people have a problem with what Leaflit is doing and I'm explaining how her actions may be more reasonable than they believe
NORWAYY!!!!!
>>113364874https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc9_mxvP1K0
I guess essie's curse is broken
>>113365058Thank fuck
>>113365017Pinker futafag spotted
>>113364807I don't really care about the pro/anti ai argument, but I think the insistence that artist built the vtubing community is a bit nonsensical. In the sense that they literally did the work? Sure, but so many of them had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do it. Even now every week you see some new controversy about how an artist or rigger left a client on read for months and months while they took on more and more commission work. That's before even considering the artist streamers that flip on their own fans and accuse them of tracing. The level of unprofessionalism among online artist, including many of those invovled in vtubing, is so high it's insane.
>>113365017Dark elves
>>113365022
>>113365017You are a fruity gay homo man. Your opinion is dogturds.
>>113365049>You asked for evidence behind Leaflit's motives and I gave it to youYou gave me a retweet and then a much broader interpretation of what that retweet supposedly means. "Leaflit supports AI as an alternative to artists with restrictive terms" is a very different claim from "Leaflit is trying to save politically ostracized creators from ideological gatekeeping.The former follows pretty naturally from what you've posted. The latter is still your extrapolation> I have no problem.Then we're arguing past each other. You spent several replies describing artists, riggers, and social pressure as though they were significant obstacles to entering the medium, and now you're saying you're simply explaining why Leaflit's actions are reasonable. "Leaflit has reasons for doing this" and "VTubers are being strong-armed out of the medium" are still two separate arguments
Zumaaaa!!!
I will marry leaflit and fix her.
SHUT UP
>>113365083I agree. It's not universal behavior but it's common enough that it's a real problem in VTubing and if VTubers can't get the work they paid for and artists and riggers can't be held accountable then people are just going to start going somewhere else, and for some people that somewhere will be Leaflit's new tool
>>113365123No
>>113365108Rodentpsyop
>>113365153Hackerlingus.
>>113359415when I'm editing cards for divegrass I use this program called ghost-it! to overlay their model or ref sheet on top of the koikatsu window and take the camera way back and zoom it way in to get closer to an orthographic view, works pretty well. Now that I'm thinking about it I could probably use OBS and project the output onto a second monitor as well which would allow me to work while seeing it with and without the overlay...
>4chan schizos are seething over former league of legends dev, now vtuber, who understands that AI is not going anywhere and its better to find a good use for it rather than be a autistically screeching luddite
>>113365142I don't really give a shit about AI one way or another but I hate vtuber artists and riggers they are entitled pieces of shit and I wish them all the suffering and bad in the world
>>113365017Based
Didn't someone already make a png to vtuber tool a few years ago?
>>113365142>It's not universal behavior but it's common enough that it's a real problemHow is it common enough?"Some people have had bad experiences" and "this is a widespread enough problem that it will drive people away from artists" are two different claims>artists and riggers can't be held accountableWhy can't they? People can leave bad reviews, warn others, request refunds, use contracts, or stop commissioning themFeel free to explain why the existence of bad actors means the entire system is failing.
>>113365016To me it's more like the left needs to hate all AI 100% of the time no matter what, whereas the right can see useful and practical applications for it. Though I do agree that some, especially older people, can get a little too carried away with AI, like the videos Leaflit does or Doug TenNapel lording Grok Imagine as this revolutionary tool. That can get pretty cringe. But this VTuber model thing seems fine so far
I'm gonna multikumi
>>113365185Embarrassing post as usual
>>113365185>good use for it>shitting out sloptubers and making the signal to noise ratio on the internet even worsebrainlet
>>113365213>To me it's more like the left needs to hate all slavery 100% of the time no matter what, whereas the right can see useful and practical applications for it. Though I do agree that some, especially older people, can get a little too carried away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSuwv8Q0TyI
Coqui's Native American name is Ballsackagawea
>>113365239How is AI the same as slavery?
>>113365243I miss Beriboobs
>>113365213>the left needs to hate all AI 100% of the time no matter whatDoes it? There are plenty of people who criticize specific uses of AI while being fine with others. The disagreement is usually about things like training data, labor, or replacing human work, not just "AI bad">this VTuber model thing seems fine so farFine according to what standard? If the argument is that it lowers barriers and gives people another option, that's a fair argument. But that doesn't automatically address the reasons people criticize AI tools in the first placeThe conversation tends to get stuck because both sides turn "I support this use case" into "therefore all criticism is irrational" or "therefore all AI is unacceptable"
>>113365213Nobody is going to watch a vtuber with an AI gen model. They’ll get the chud bucks for a week and never grow
>>113365186The most frustrating part is that they're all poor and/or third-world so there's no recourse for when they do fuck someone over. Can't sue them and no way to get your money back, so the most you can do is warn other people about their behavior, which a lot of chuubas won't do because they hate conflict
>>113365233posting that without replying to anybody is so pathetic
>>113365239What point are you trying to make?
>>113365289>>113365289>>113365289
>>113365256It isn't. It's not comparing AI to slavery, it's comparing the logic of "one side rejects something entirely, therefore the other side can embrace it"You understood the analogy. You just don't like it.
>>113365213There is absolutely a cult following forming not just practical applicationshttps://youtu.be/-Rzl7nUdEs4Look at the comments
>>113365263AI stuff is simply just indicative of being for the lowest common denominator, like the magazines at a supermarket. All it shows is that you’re too dumb to appreciate what makes art art and also too cheap to even try to get a real person to do the work. Just pathetic trash all around.
>>113364807>EmeraldAppleWasn't that some unironic jeet?
>>113365185>former league of legends devThat literally means fuck and all
>>113365263Do you not remember how viral those AI generated TV shows went? Did you forget that the most popular VTuber in the world right now is a peanut?
IT'S COMING HOME!!
>>113365301It's logic that's been true so far from my experience. Just look at Coqui freaking out and getting angry and apologizing whenever she starts to enjoy a YouTube video that she later finds out has AI in it
>>113365083>artist streamers that flip on their own fans and accuse them of tracingperhaps saru and dya aren't so different...
>>113365334fuck off disgusting brit
>>113365360One person having a reaction you dislike doesn't prove the entire group thinks that wayIf Coqui has a personal issue with AI content, that's her choice. The question is whether that represents a broader pattern or whether you're taking the loudest examples and treating them as universal
I am ready for the World Cup to be over
>>113365395I don't need to prove it, people just live it
>>113365401Wake me up when WW3 kicks off.
>>113365303I don't know, seems pretty reasonable to me
>>113365417Then why bring up Coqui as an example?If it's something "people just live" there should be no issue pointing to actual examples beyond one person having a strong reaction. You're making a claim about a group while only providing an anecdote
>>113365395This line of argument goes nowhere because you're ultimately just saying the burden of proof to make generalizations is insurmountable. Just state that you disagree with the generalization directly.
>>113365469Because it's an on-topic example shared by a decent amount of people here due to Coqui being so well-known in the thread
>>113365494A relevant example of one person is still just an example of one persnoThe question was whether this is a broader pattern, not whether Coqui had a reaction that people noticed. If the argument is "a lot of people relate to this" then what exactly are we measuring?
>>113365469What do you actually want, full polling data?
>>113365514This is all just observations of social media trends. If you want to say it's impossible to make commentary on social media trends without some kind of hard data to back it up, then you're in the wrong place to expect that sort of rigor.
>>113365514A question about emerging trends from political parties is not one to be explored in depth on the VTuber board. There are relevant examples among VTubing and if people need more than that then the information is out there
>>113365587Then why make the broader claim in the first place?Nobody is asking you to write a political essay. The point is that if you're using an example to support a conclusion, the connection between the two has to exist>People can find the information elsewhereisn't an argument. It's just avoiding having to explain your own claim
>>113365617Because someone brought it up as part of the conversation
>>113365635And that's fine. BUt participating in a conversation doesn't make every conclusion you draw from it self-evidentYou brought up Coqui as an example of a broader trend. I'm asking why that example proves the trend exists, because those are separate things
>>113365666You just answered your question in your own post
>>113365726No, I didn't. I acknowledged that Coqui is an example. I didn't agree that one example proves the broader claimYou're again conflating "this is an example of the thing" with "this proves how common the thing is"
>>113365758>I acknowledged that Coqui is an exampleAn example of what?
>>113365236>brainletbut enough about yourself
>>113365234your post absolutely is embarrassing, yes
