>nyana already raising money for a new modelIs Phase really that bad?
Maybe she's trying to pull a grimmi??
>>113424326>Is Phase really that bad?seething holocuck
>>113424326Didn't she have 3x higher numbers as Nyana? I would quit too.
>>113424326What was wrong with the last one?
>>113424440>don't stream>don't get viewersHuh. How does that work?
>>113424326What site is this and what is the target amount for the goal?
Bet it's someone else trying to run a scam
She's jealous of croc being the big hit of her gen when she was convinced it was going to be her so is quitting over a hissy fit.
>>113424326if god was real it would stay at 0% but he isn't
>debut late>dont streamWHERE ARE MY NUMBERS??????
>>113424475Stealth suspension by fishman
>>113424440She didn't
It's kinda dumb how people are paying for someone's work equipment
>>113424326Didn't jelly start opening comms or something on her PL? I wonder if Phasecon made fishman realize he can't keep blowing money like this all willy nilly. His crypto money could've lasted a long time but he's just burning through all of it in just a few years.
>>113425065Moon Jelly was always separate from the phase connect invader Jelly.
>>113424326Wasn't this the one that was spamming discord about demons? I won't assume any choices she makes have real justification.
>>113425103yes, the delayed debut was probably due to a mental breakdown associated with debuting in a company? i don't know why phase still wanted her in the roster after that fiasco
>>113424576It's not real, as usual it's insufferable faggots making up shit because they've got nothing better to do in their lives, not even watch vtubers.
>>113424326Yes
corpocucks stay losing
>>113424682see>>113425356
>>113424576>>113425356Nah it's real, it's on some crowd funding website called Ko-fi. It was linked on some dramafag's twitter account that reported on this finding. It's currently on 1% of the goal reached, so it's unlikely that she'll get what she wants anytime soon. The site doesn't show the goal target or anything substantial which is a fucking dumb omission. Unless you need your own account to see it, which I'm not bothering to check.
>>113425181Sad girl company
>>113425448Thank you, someone finally useful here.
>>113424326Can always just pull an attempted s and get out. Works everytime.
>>113424378Vshojo is coming back with Gunrun 2.0?
>>113425448oh kek this fag of coursehttps://x.com/TheDarkEnjoyer/status/2076708745401290983
this is the only job where you beg people to pay for your work equipment
>>113424440she streamed to about 90 people when she wasn't relying on big collabs to carry her
>>113425676Oh it's one of brownvtm's dickriders. no wonder
>>113424326GRIM
>>113424326Yeah she's gone
>>113425676Is that the guy who spammed shit on that Hololive app once, or am I confusing him with someone else?
KURO CONNECT
>>113426262One of them, yeah. He's the retard that got caught and had most of his accounts banned from hololive-related groups.
>>113426329Sounds like some chud whining
>>113426329"pure" ? didn't the first gen just got sex outfits ?I can get behind schizo theories but stay coherent
>>113426329>Sakuna
>>113426262He was in the discord (he's mahdeensky in this screenshot, the main doxx spammer was Caroline)
when you have 40 people in your company, some are going to leave.sorry it seemingly isn't working out for her. life goes on for everyone.it is not too late her for her to turn it around if she still wants to be there, either.since debut it felt like anya maybe didn't want to be there and she hasn't done anything to try and fit in. even girls who she collab begged before she was ever in phase, she has not interacted with them at all since she got in. odd behavior
>>113424682makes sense
>>113425589no needif she wants to leave, phase isn't gonna stop her at all.they have been very accommodating from the start with her it seems. how many corpos have allowed a talent to skip debut because the talent wasn't ready?so long as she keeps it clean with no hard feelings, i would even go so far as to say that phase will let girls collab with her pl with no issue.
>>113425676>>113426427It's amazing how it only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch. Seriously, if these people stopped today nothing bad would come out of it. Do they feel some twisted sense of pride knowing their best contribution would be no longer being present so out of spite they remain?
it is real, her kofi has her begging for money for the new model and it's still sitting at 1%
>>113426329>pretends to have intel but gets 3 of 4 names wrong>SakunaAqua bought phase?
>Yuri was endorsed by Pippa>Clara's only friend in Phase was Pippa>Anya was hard nepo hired by Pippa>Hina was always weirdly close to Pippa, being her first offcollab and went on a trip with hernoticing a pattern here
>>113426329> Sakuna> Anyna> Naynna> vague post about something someone allegedly said on streamThis nigga is trolling concerned phasefags!It's like how these scam emails have weird typos to filter out anyone with above monkey intelligence
>>113424427>seeting holocuckimagine if a holo PL ask kofi monies for new L2Dimagine phasecuck+nijinig reactionstop acting like you better than them
Anya's run in Phase Connect so far>starts by vagueposting on discord and twitter pre debut>missed her debut (possibly for medical reasons; no fault of her own if so)>missed out on bonding with her genmates>missed PhaseCon entirely so she could go on vacation>missed out on bonding with her senpais>skipped the company anniversary cover>on stream, has not tried to fit in with her corpo>doesn't stream all that much, especially for someone who is new>starts a ko-fi for a new indie model
>>113424427Phasecucks really thought they could shit on hololive and nobody would shit on them back
>>113424326You all said Nyana in Phase was going to be good...what the fuck happened? You know Fishman will just go back to safer ex-corpo hires now.
>>113427261Aside from her debut, it just feels like programed graduation. Involving her as little as possible with the rest of the company since she's going to leave and be barely a thought after that.
Whatever the reasons behind the delay in her debut, which we’ll probably never fully know and which may not have been entirely her fault, it was pretty clear that starting out this way, especially three months behind the rest of her gen, would most likely result in a trainwreck. I wonder why they didn’t just cancel the debut. It would have been a PR blunder, but it’s going to be one anyway, and probably a worse one
>>113427510>it’s going to be one anyway, and probably a worse onehow so?people leave corpos when their contracts expire every year and go do their own thing. it's not a big deal.a girl having her debut canceled and never debuting is a scandal. something like that has never happened and would have produced loads of smoke
>>113427356the lack of involvement is likely anya's decisionas we have seen with hina, phase literally does not care if you dont stream for a year they will still include you in projects if you want to be in them
blackjack
Whatever is going on, it's not too late for her to correct course. She joined Phase and became weird, even to people who are in Phase who she collabed with before she was even in it. Something changed and became weird.Quit acting like a stranger and have some fun. Or maybe it's not what she thought it would be and wants to be back indie that is fine too, but it feels like she never gave corpo a honest try. It feels like Saya.
what she mean by this??!https://x.com/moonjelly0/status/2076973702097555638?s=20
Tenma is never wrong.
>>113425676Why phasefag love this guys anyway? He will exposed and magnify anything as long as he get click.
>>113427792>Why phasefag love this guys anyway?well this guys shitting on hololive thats why
>>113427792>phasefagsLooking at the interactions, looks more like jelly fags
>>113427510>I wonder why they didn’t just cancel the debut.There was already a lot of effort and finances put into the model, gen promotional art/advertisement, debut merch, song covers, etc. Calling it off not only would put all of that to waste, but it also affects the other debuts from that gen as it shrouds everything in more controversy. A talent debuting late is a whole lot better than a talent that doesn't debut at all. And I know there's say about finding a quick replacement to use the model and IP, but too much pre-debut prep goes into the setup. Like months before they even debut. Finding a last minute replacement is not smooth sailing and it's very risky. There's also the possibility of her replacement leaking out from Nyana herself, any of her PL friends, or hell even someone from Phase themselves. Better to let the contract run its course and she can leave to not many people's surprises.
>>113427792I think some like him but others hate him, look here>>113425860/pcg/ doesn't like him for containment breakingTVA (phasefag forum) banned him for reasons I can't find (don't have an account)Also I suspect this guy is an annoying shitposter on /vt/
They should have fired her pre-debut and recast her with someone who has talent.
>>113427945impossible because they allowed her to basically leak being anya in her original graduation. they let things get too fucking cute for their own good, at the cost of flexibility.
>>113427828I understand what you're saying, and I don't entirely disagree, but at the same time I wonder if all of that really limited the damage. I doubt they've recouped much of their initial investment at this point, and the delay in her debut has probably made them waste even more money, for example on remixing the gen song without her vocal track. And in any case, the delay itself was a specter that hung over her entire generation for months. It may not have been the equivalent of a huge controversy, but I feel that it still had a somewhat negative effect on the overall mood (for fans and talents alike)
>>113427743Jerry is parasocial for her fans (me)
>>113424326trouble in paradise, phaseGODs?
>>113425181She got nerve damage from some bad acupuncture and the pain made her go crazy
She's an opportunistic parasite who stole one of Pippa's fictional vtubers to debut as and immediately began leeching. She had no business ever being in Phase. She probably felt insane impostor syndrome, and for good reason.
>>113424682Croc was bigger as an indie too and works harder why is it a surprise?
>>113428692>opportunistic parasitewe call that business savvy in the real world, hikineetchama
>>113428745>business savvy is when you crash your own career
>>113424615Her own Twitter account says she's coming back soonhttps://x.com/Nyanabanyana
>>113428984Kana and Nana were bad choices
>>113424326>she decides to get acupuncture>gets brain damage from infectionstay away from chink "medicine"it fucked up her debut and streaming
>>113424326Nyana>75K on YT>29K on Twitch>34K on TwitterAnya>27K on YT>8K on Twitch>21K on TwitterImagine going corpo, giving away your freedom and part of your revenue, and receiving LESS success than you had as an indie.
>>113430415maybe dont kneecap yourself by not streaming and missing your debut buff
>>113430415She barely even streamed, basically pulled a saba with a clone of her model, you cannot make this shit up lmao
>>113427110>imagine if a holo PL ask kofi moniessaar, your grammar...
>>113430415>Imagine going corpo, giving away your freedom and part of your revenue, and receiving LESS success than you had as an indieNobody forced her at gunpoint to do so, she chose it herself
>>113426369you're goddamn right they did
>>113430544thats not first gen
>>113426262Yeah, he was also a r/virtualvtubers mod.
>>113431473>Insufferable faggot was also a reddit modShocking.
>>113424326probably, they need to work on coffee plantation overtime too
>>113428015The transition during debut from 'she is finally back' to 'who the fuck is this?' would have been pure gold if they actually had the balls to replace her.
>>113424326I'm willing to bet its going to be for a PL profile and not for after graduation
>>113424326
>>113432171Doesn't she have a vtuber model, why does she need another?
>>113433517Because this one's gonna be free, from YOUR pocket.
>>113433601>from YOUR pocket.anon that's literally all vtubers and media in general
>>113433714There's a difference between donation during a stream made for entertainment and donation to finance a magic number she made up, not even disclosing it, for a new model she barely needs.
>>113433860No, there really isn't. In both cases you shove your money into the void for no tangible return in the hopes that the streamer uses it in some way.
funding models are a scam simps fall forShiki and Mozzu held donothons for their 3D stuff each, and neither of them ever delivered on it because they used the money to upgrade housing irl.
>>113424326Phase isn't bad. She just didn't do shit.
>>113433920If you don't see the difference, I can't say it more clearly.I'm not going to throw money at someone because they don't stream.Even if my donation goes to the cocaine she's sniffing, I've donated because I had fun during a stream and I was willing to send her something back.
>>113434020>I have no self control so it's only ok if you donate money on impulse. Any other time is BADgot it
>>113424427KEK if a Holo did this all the generals would get pushed off the board because all the phasefag dramatroons would come pouring in and spamming the entire catalog with bait threads.One single thread and you pussies have a melty.
>>113434104If you think that the act of donating comes from an impulsion, you're beyond retarded.
>>113427798In what way? Trying to view this guy's history but he's online sooo much there is just a lot of post and replies.
>>113434108There was another thread made about this and it was deleted in 5 minutes.When it comes to phase, jannies suddenly make an effort at moderating this board. Good for them, but I'm nooticing.
>>113434108Saba gets witch hunted for existing by the dramatroons. Nothing surprises me about this place anymore.
>>113434478Existing is all her channel does these days.
>>113424326phase keks
>>113424326>hire a schizophrenic woman>schizo woman does schizo things >fucks off because mental illness wow, well played fishman. congrats on hiring this hidden gem
She said on stream if even one of her fans wanted to see her at a meet and greet she'd show up so she said she'd be at Phase Con then cancelled last minute lmao she's worthless.
>>113430415it worked for clio though
Lia just confirmed on stream mass graduations are still happening
>>113430415Imagine going corpo, having a menhera melty and delaying your debut, then not even trying when you do
>>113426329Justice for Clara, this is the message of the mass graduations
>>113424326Phasebros your response?
Sakana called me personally to say that mass graduation is still happening, don't trust anyone else but me
>>113424326>>113430415>>>opportunity of a lifetime
>>113430415The only other case I can think of is NijiEN with Kunai
>>113430415>>113448519There was also Kani Kanizawa/globie's Rhubarb N. Kustard:>Kani29.5k on YT40.4k on Twitter>Rhubarb16.4k on YT3.6k on Twitter
Just like Saya anyone with a fucking brain knows this was a terrible idea. She literally has a giant schizo moment that delayed her debut. It's really quite astonishing she's only going to be Phase's second graduation and both you could predict happening from the debut.
>>113425099but when clara does it suddenly theyre the same person as the irl onefucking double standards
>>113450018i think the concept of nyana/anya in phase was a good idea. she was a hustler and great social ladder climber. also she lost several rungs of her social ladder by filian disapearing. filian pretty much made her into a low 3view and got her in contact with liggers who otherwise would have never given her the time of day.but she has not worked out at all for whatever reason. it's not too late it's never too late, but she needs a mentality change it is up to her.i don't know her exact situation and health stuff, but she would not be the first girl to join phase and struggle but rebound to become a player. she ought to look to lia and rie they are great examples. or she could be a yuri/saya/clara and just not fight to survive. the choice is hers.
>>113451122>she has not worked out at all for whatever reasonThe reason is clear: the delay in her debut (the exact cause of which we’ll probably never fully know) meant she was absent at the most critical moment for both attracting fans and bonding with her genmates. Besides, she’s neither the first nor the last VTuber to face problems around the time of her debut (case in point: Pomu), and as you said, with enough effort, it’s not impossible to bounce back. The problem is that, from the outside, it seems she hasn’t put in much effort so far. And this goal on her PL's Ko-Fi makes me wonder whether or not she’s already thrown in the towel
>>113451308I want to think she has fully given up but she has not advertise her ko-fi on her twitter account, it's weird. Worst case scenario she just threw a random ko-fi to see how much people want to see her come back as her old persona, if that's not enough she'll stay and maybe try to fit in Phase. Who knows where the money is going though.
The problem with anya/nyana is that whatever happened to her between being and indie and a phaser changed her brain for the worse on a physical level. Shes legit retarded and boring now. Its sad but its just true.
>>113434108Phasenigs really thought they would shit on hololive and nobody would shit on them back
>>113434548KEK
>>113451825i am unfamiliar with this, but if true that sucks but maybe there are medications that can help.i think it would be foolish for her to give up on this opportunity unless the situation is truly untenable for her, in which case she has to do what is best for her.again, i have seen girls come into phase and struggle to find their footing, but they stuck with it and became somebody. i have seen lia go from k-angel level yabai to be rehabbed into a real dancing idol. anything can happen
>>113452902>The holotroon from numbers cries out as he strikes you.
>>113451308missing debut was not that big of a deal to me desu.you can make an impact at anytime if your content and consistency is good enough.create new memories and experiences to bond over. her skipping over phasecon made me raise my eyebrow i think she kinda fucked up with that one, but thats just me.also her gen saga has been described by the literal daisenpias as "the most professional and planned out gen they have ever seen. everybody is on the same schedule they are very organized." I dont know if that is a good or bad thing for anya, tho. maybe she would feel more comfortable being in a more loose gen, but maybe not beause as nyana one of her calling cards was being the great organizer of indie events
>>113445315I don't think there is a single Phase fan that actively likes Anya enough to care. Her fans are almost entirely past life holdovers. Anya's entire tenure has been beyond phoned in and half of the Phase fanbase dropped her mid debut because of how little effort she put in and it's unlikely she'll ever put in the work to earn them back.She doesn't try at all so there's nothing worth getting invested in which is made even more obvious with how the rest of her gen try their hardest at every opportunity
>>113455775>I don't think there is a single Phase fan that actively likes Anya enough to care.Which is weird considering they loved her before she joined and were always begging for her.
>her entire vtbuing career has been based on social hustling and collabs with people bigger than her>does it so well she gets a job in her dream corpo>show up late>name drop Pippa and Tenma in her lore>think it will be enough to endear herself to the rest of the company>it doesn't>she no longer has punch-above-her-weight collabs to carry her>her content is mid and she is kinda boringcautionary tale >>113457249phasefags were never begging for nyana. she was a phase fangirl who became a flavr girl, and phasefags deeply hated flavrfags
>>113457389She's looking for a way out, asking her old fanbase to finance a new model. Things will work out this time right ??
>>113457475i think that would be lame and she needs to pull herself up and be more involved with her company. she can still turn her ship around.if she thought she was just gonna show up, say "pippa" and people were gonna flock to her, she had another thing coming. the company doesnt need another pippa adjacent. i don't know what nyana offers that can make her stand out, but she should dig deep and find it.
>>113457529I want to be optimistic but seeing that she's accepting donations for a new model kinda killed it for me.
>>113457529>i don't know what nyana offers that can make her stand out, but she should dig deep and find it.Wasn't she the one who kept organizing big events for smaller vtubers?
>>113457844other vtubers filled that role to the point where it is completely over saturated i would imagine the point of joining a corpo would be you have support and a roster full of company mates to fill out your event
>>113458636also to add to this: phase connect girls are pretty well gardened away from the small corpo scene of mass events save for hime/runie/eimi who do stuff from time to time.so that means they have not been bastardized out and it is somewhat rare. not everyday you see tenma, lia, uruka, shiina, panko, lumi, mari etc do vtuber events so it is at least somewhat fresh than the token girls who always show up to organized events. anya has that at her disposal if she wants it
>>113424326uhoh
Her late debut has drawn a lot of eyes on her still. It just was not great, and she sounded already fed up at that point.
>>113430415oof
>>113462087fed up with what?