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I'll only watch that bitch Kiara if she learned not to speak out loud the spoilers that she reads in chat.
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>>113434517
What went wrong?
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>kiara doesn't know about the minute of silence for the ayatollah
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>>113434432
>>113434453
>By that logic her own gen leader Ririka is a bigger failure of a vtuber than she is
You said it, not me

>>113434470
>Raden's arthoe antics have brought Cover absurd amounts of money,
How? The biggest source of money for Cover is merch sales and the second, events (concerts). Raden is not excelling in either

>>113434516
>This is like judging Suisei based entirely on the fact that she's a mid tier jap holomem in terms of ccv
Suisei is the one girl that brought the biggest revenue for Cover in 2025 because of her sololives (and merch sales)

There is ZERO metrics where Raden is excelling, be it live audience, revenue or anything else.
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>>113434589
Grim. And CC has both her orisong and cover at just about 1m already. Meanwhile, Nimi....
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>>113434597
Based?
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>>113434669
You said Raden is beyond saving as a vtuber and brought up metrics to prove it. I never said any of the girls was a failure in the first place
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>4am Vivi vs PRIMETIME GIGABUFF Kiara
>Vivi still wins
How?
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>>113434483
that person in particular is acquaintances with both Silvi and Waabyuu
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>>113434669
It's not only about the directly attributable money. Raden brings in very little on her own, but she indirectly helps by being a brand icon for a small niche of people.
She's probably in the top half of Hololive in value to the company, close to the average, but even average is good when compared to DEV_IS as a branch
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>>113434517
We forgive Shiori, Bae, ERB and Nerissa because they yuribait btw
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>>113434669
>There is ZERO metrics where Raden is excelling
subs
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>>113434706
gee its almost like vtubing is exponentially more popular in japan compared to the rest of the world
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>>113434742
>Nerissa
Why does Ina not get all the shit Nerissa does in this thread despite the fact that she actually homocollabed while Nerissa didn't?
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Why isn't essie streaming?
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>>113434760
It's 4am on a wednesday morning in Japan.
Also the match is two teams from EUROPE.
No more excuses.
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>>113434768
Jannies, blackjack is ban evading again.
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>>113434765
Because Nerissa has completely lost it. She became lazy and inconsistent in 2025. Also Nerissa got defensive over the Holostars
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>>113434765
Ina was forgiven by staying clean for more than 2 years
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>>113434789
wasn't she bad already in 2024?
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>>113434706
5.5k * 2 is larger than 7k though?
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>>113434795
What about all the IDs whose last homocollab predate Ina's like Moona and Reine? They still get hate for it.
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>>113434765
Ina is barely relevant. she wasn't in any LA stories of the girls I watched
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>>113434669
raden has been the most important new member hololive has had in the last few years. the exposure she brings to a new audience is more valuable than anything else. she gives them cultural relevancy that is important to have
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>>113434809
2024 was her best year
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>>113434782
She's on vacations
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>>113434819
She was with Gigi. She also was with CC
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>>113434823
the year she collabed with NijiEN and Zentranny?
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>>113434765
he also sells her merch out in two minutes
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>>113434819
Ina was with IRyS, Bae, and Biboo
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The Dutch J-pop groups are pretty good
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>>113434818
ngl anon I have never seen anyone post about Moona in this thread in years and Reine was forgiven too, during her tomodachi arc she was being live posted in this thread with no problem at all
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>>113434829
>gets an opportunity of a lifetime to break out
>goes on vacation
I'm not getting sad if she returns to irrelevance.
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>>113434888
people don't even hate on kaela who just homo collabed a couple weeks ago
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>>113434846
She made over 600 stream hours that year, released an EP, had weekly schedules, did plenty of karaokes and sold out all her merch
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>>113434870
weird how neither IRyS, Bae or Biboo mentioned her
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>>113434901
She was never going to keep all those tourists anyway dude she's an anime girl who does GFE ASMR
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>>113427494
there's no correlation between for/against and selfishness/selflessness.
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>>113434735
>Raden brings in very little on her own, but she indirectly helps
yeah, that's what I meant by "alternative metrics".
>>113434749
>subs
Only in the most permissive interpretation of the word "excelling" given that's she's #39 out of 75 barely ahead of Hajime, ahead of her by 30k subs
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>>113434901
>if
it's wild that you're in the numbers thread and you don't understand that her numbers will return to normal and would have returned to normal either way
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>>113434901
She had vacation plans even before all this happened.
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Fucking retard holy shit
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>>113434622
>Spamming something from 4 years ago
Really obsessed
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>>113434820
>raden has been the most important new member hololive has had in the last few years.
See >>113434936 and >>113434669 again, if she is, it is by some unmeasurable "alternative metric" because every public metric of her has her trailing most of the Holo ensemble by a GIANT margin
>exposure she brings to a new audience I
A new audience that doesn't sub, watch streams, watch videos or live streams.
What is that audience even doing anyway then?
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Penalty for Spain lol
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>>113434919
>>113434944
It's still an opportunity to get more viewers.
>>113434956
Then cancel your plans and stream your best content.
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>>113434820
she isn't even in the top 3 of most important new members that debuted in 2023 anon...
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>>113434992
>your best content
go away normie
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>normie
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>>113434986
SPAIN SCORES!
>France BTFO?
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Essie won
Mbappe lost
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Mbappebros....
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VAMOS ESPAÑITAAA!!
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>>113434706
She's Vivi what else do I have to say
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>>113434992
>It's still an opportunity to get more viewers.
no it's not. it's an ephemeral meme that is about her, not for her. the only way she can convert it into anything at all is by going full lolcow
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>>113434992
Maybe she's more realistic than you and knows that they're just tourists and that it doesn't really matter.
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>>113434975
Exposure is good because it gets people talking about about hololive with an audience that would never know what it is. The more mainstream it is the more you grow an audience over time. If you limit yourself to people who only watch vtubers then theres not really any real room for long term growth.

Long term its Cover's job to figure out how to turn these people into customers but if you don't take steps to grow and limit yourself to the existing audience then you're kind of doomed. I feel like you're already seeing that with EN, there just isn't any untapped fans left to target with their current approach
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>>113434669
>merch and events
did you miss her National Gallery collab, retard?
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>>113434706
Vivi is better than Kiara in every single way measurable and unmeasurable
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>>113435070
well, how about "anime fans who only watch CGDCT and won't watch hololive because of holostars"?
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>Spain my actually win stacked French super-team
Jesas
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>shiori likes asmongold
>kiara likes ishowspeed
>gigi likes hasan
well, make your choice /#/
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>>113435072
>did you miss her National Gallery collab, retard?
>>113435070
>Exposure is good because it gets people talking about about hololive with an audience that would never know what it is. The more mainstream it is the more you grow an audience over time. If you limit yourself to
Again, that's only "alternative metrics" coep. Unless this mythical audience is subbing (they're not) watching streams (they're not) or generating revenue by buying merch or donating (they're definitely not) it is absolutely useless and WORSE, impossible to measure in their existence.
Maybe they exist but they're cloaked under seventeen layers of obfuscation and misdirection
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>>113434765
Because most of the time you forget Ina actually exists
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>>113435152
Can I choose actually good girls like FWMC or Biboo or IRyS or CC
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>>113435152
>all dogshit
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>>113435157
>generating revenue by buying merch or donating (they're definitely not)
How do you know they're not? Did she fail to sell out?
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>>113435095
doesn't sound real. most cgdct isn't that strict about having some kind of male presence and there's not enough of the ones that are for someone who only watches those to call himself an anime fan
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>>113435175
Biboo is in 12 hours
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>>113435152
Shiori hasn't mentioned asmongold in years? she talks about horror game streamers since thats what she usually watches.
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>>113435130
france has been doing this same shit the entire tournament, they are going to curb stomp them in the second half
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>>113435152
Asmon is just a retard
The other two are actively harmful to society
Shiori wins
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>>113435030
France relaxed since she's on vacation
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>>113435200
crime scene cleaner stream, less than a year ago. explicit mention + "I can fix him" -type jokes
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>>113435182
>cuckposters real
>cgdct fans not real
Your world sounds grim
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>>113435152
kronii likes markiplier
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>>113435152
Proof of Gigi?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksJmpZB7X1I
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>>113435242
I made it up for dramatic effect and to keep the thread going.
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>>113435182
>most cgdct isn't that strict about having some kind of male presence
????
>and there's not enough of the ones that are for someone who only watches those to call himself an anime fan
?????????
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>>113435152
>Calli likes MoistCr1tikal

>>113435200
No real person likes Assmold, it's just Mossad bots and retards dumb enough to eat the slop his masters tell him to throw out.
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>'person I like' likes 'person I don't like'
Dropped instantly
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>kiara knows yamalo is a fraud
she has a good instinct in the absence of knowledge
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>>113435152
When fid Gigi mention Hasan? I will go full Coco chink anti on her if this is true.
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>>113435276
This but every other 3d streamer, especially those who hate asmon
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>>113435314
Gays have a gaydar, Kiara has a runtdar
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>>113435260
>Mrs. Nimi Malone
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If she solo streams more than she collabs she's not real cgdct
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>>113435261
based.
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>>113435085
Kiara's outfit is better and sexier than Vivi's, even the model if we're being objective
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NO ERA
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>>113435387
yeah nah
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>>113435315
When her mom leaked her presidency campaign everyone assumed Hasan would be her running mate but she just recently announced it's going to be Teen Wolf actor Tyler Hoechlin
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The French team reminds me that I hate nigs
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>>113435387
Objectively and subjectively, you are wrong
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>>113435387
It’s not
But even if this was true, Vivi’s would still be better because it’s not being worn by a disgusting whore
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>>113434974
>IT WAS F-FOUR Y-YEARS AGO!
Kek
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>>113435429
The one good thing about Vivi's model is her ass and Kiara still wins in that department.
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>>113435406
it also reminds me that I hate the French
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Halftime predictions
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>>113434818
well you see my dear shitposter ina has never streamed with a homo despite what your imaginary demons are telling you unlike moona you went as far as to shill homos on an all girls collab
i dont think people give shit to reine these days at least not about homo collabing
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>>113435152
who the fuck is hasan
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>>113435448
Rudy should have fucked her too ngl
She even wanted him to, but he chose to have a conscience at the worst moment
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https://x.com/hujinon/status/1622526191176663042/
opinions?
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>>113435448
Roxy won.
Sylphie lost.
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There are about 8k votes in the poll vs 7k viewers. I wonder how culled Kiara's stream is
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>>113435485
Some terrorist raised by The Young Turks
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>>113435406
this but scizronie
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>>113435507
Anon it’s nearly an hour long poll
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>>113435512
How old is he????
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Shit half so far, France needs to play football.
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>>113434742
I rather have she has a bf than yuribait, I fucking hate yuribait like no tomorrow. Worse part of vtubing. You guys think it's cute it's not. It's hot when it's a girl you don't care about, I'll have a threesome with two girls I don't have feelings for but when it's a vtuber you start caring about its fucking horrible and nasty. I used to like this one girl, like in the sense that I started caring for her and wanted to ask her out. We went out to a club with group and I was getting a rum and coke when I saw her booty dancing with another girl grinding her, all attraction gone in a second, started slowly cutting contact with her after that, that shit is nasty. If Bae can get a bf, good for her , best would be gfe of course but who knows if she wants to go down that route, most EN girls dont. Instead of that nasty ass yurishit, whole reason I don't watch Kiara, any chuuba that does yuribait past casual jokes I will unsub. Imagine you watch a chuuba, you care for her, you donate then she starts going "uwu isn't that girl so cute, I wanna kiss her" it's like a pit in your stomach, it's not nice. Fuck yuri. Lesbians are still hot tho, when it's just random girls.
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>>113435542
Trying too hard dude
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>>113435481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFTSE4h4SSs
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>Kiara thinking about Bulls again.
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>>113435532
his commitment to holocaust denial keeps him young and vigorous, like a lich that refuses to die
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>>113435567
i know you're incapable of parsing even moderately long sentences but this is embarrassing...
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>>113435152
Kiara and ignore the nig
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>>113435581
umm based
i wanna be a fucking genocide lich
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>>113434742
This but unironically
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>>113435152
why are my options so shit all the time...
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>>113435591
>Uuuuh my oshi collabing with Axel was based actually
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>>113435565
I think that's pasta, I remember the "girl dancing at the club" story
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>>113435734
You just take your time, Liz, I don't wanna see you stream, who knows what you have in mind.
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>>113435734
*roll eyes*
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>>113435750
kek
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>>113435734
>Only Gigi is consistently streaming in Justice

Grim.
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isnt this horrible for northernlion's wife? does this thread keep track of her?
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>>113435734
Its so dumb having this grandma larp as an idol, she should be in bed by 6 pm.
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>>113435734
No. Now the only one streaming from Justice is Gigi, the one who bring politics up out of nowhere now
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These days "HoloEN" for me is basically just watching biboo every now and then. Western vtubing fell the fuck off and I'd even go as far as to say the JP side of vtubing is on the way down too since they are also plagued by the 2.5D half flesh half vtubing bullshit since they have a LOT more whores than the west does, believe it or not. It will only stagnate if it's just hololive and niji but you niggers are not ready for any of these conversations since you're too busy jerking each other off with your little 4chan vtuber console war bullshit. You can even see the decline here too. Most of you talk more about these named schizos and thread celebrities than you do the vtubers.
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>>113435795
BASED
Grems won. Otomotroons lost
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>>113435799
I can't hear you I'm too busy sucking Scott's cock
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>>113435799
>crying about tribalism
Kill yourself tranny larper
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>>113435779
She mainly streams on Twitch.
It's still a terrible showing after years of leeching off of her 5view husband.
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>>113435874
Is that a notgigi reference?
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>>113435157
you still haven't answered this, by the way: >>113435178
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>>113434517
I see youu
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>>113435874
Oh shit Ina posting Gigi RM??????
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>>113434517
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>>113435888
>>113435916
what are you trying to do?
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>>113435916
based
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>>113435931
Is that not gg?
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>>113435734
>British
>ya'll
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>>113435734
worst fucking hire
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I've been watching Kiara this past month because of the world cup watchalongs and I can't believe I'm saying this but somehow the more I watch her the more she's losing me.
If JP autists knows English, she'll have the most persistent jp schizos by far.
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>>113434517
Ew
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>Kiara is analyzing tactics
It's over...
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>>113435928
Oh, did Flayjeet finally got himself a yume?
>Looks inside
>Mexican
>Transgender flag
...pff...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>113435949
that's a fucking chiikawa you retard
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>>113435973
Kiara for Austria's next WC coach
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>>113435734
WORK FUCKING BITCH! DO SOME FUCKING WORK!!
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>>113434706
Vivi is more likable than Kiara, is that what you wanted to hear?
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Cuck cord melty
No one cares losers
Life is good if you're a holochad
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>>113435977
I see edition
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>>113435874
Henya the Leechous
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>>113435978
Idk what that is
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>>113435960
>I can't believe I'm saying this but somehow the more I watch her the more she's losing me.
Are you retarded? Did you think she has been the runt of EN since she debuted because she just got unlucky?
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>>113435619
yeah, we know you do.
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>>113435315
never, bur she is woke and mentioned the nyc mudslime so the math says she likes hasan according to that anon
>>113435610
we are all zionists here
https://files.catbox.moe/gmfzj3.mp4
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>>113435960
I gave her a month after the collabs she did with Gigi this year and just couldn't do it
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>>113435956
CC is worse she's on indefinite hiatus right now and streams less than ERB now
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>>113435977
It's a meme now to try and get shiori to reply to you on twitter
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>>113436006
>the math says she likes hasan
The ThunderGod?
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>>113435572
>choosing to lust for black soccer player live on stream before, when main paying audience is white/asian.
I fid it funny that the main culprits of dumbfuck central being her, mori and kronii are complaining about behind the scenes shit with hololive management. It has gotten to the point that bad news from their management to just piss them off is considered good news for me.
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>>113435095
Literally do not exist, and anyone that was that extreme in thinking already hates vtubers for being e-thots and ruining cons/anime/etc.
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>>113435734
>Last stream two weeks ago (EN Meccha Chameleon collab)
>No original song
>Last cover recorded before Ao's graduation
Yagoo only gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers.

>>113435760
>>113435795
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>wake up
>sadcast trio doomposting yet again
please I just wanna watch cute girls stream and make funny noises...
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>>113436024
Cecilia is the best hire in Justice.
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>just making shit up

Schizos are embarassing.
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>>113436062
Best at hating her fans and indefinite hoatuses. What is she in holo for? Collabspam and vacations
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RIP France
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FRANCE IS COOKED
FRANCE IS COOKED
FRANCE IS COOKED
FRANCE IS COOKED
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Lfggggg, Ngubus out!!!!
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Mbappe is washed lmao
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Boom fuck france
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>AHHHHHH SAVE ME MY STACKED SUPER-TEAM!!!
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>>113435779
Get that HARLOT away from my manly
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AHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU MBAPPE!!
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frogfags on suicide watch
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>>113436062
Yeah no. Raora > ERB > Gigi (pre politics) > Cecilia > Gigi (politics)
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AIIIIEEEE OFFSIDE

I have lots of money on France but I don't mind them losing
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>>113436134
...fuck this made me laugh, it's so ridiculous

Gigi (forma de politics)
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Why do you guys know so much about twitch streamers?
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>performs ONCE
>offside
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>>113436069
>>113436134
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>letting someone from a spurs team that almost got relegated score on you
france deserves to lose just for this i'm sorry
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HOWEVER
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>>113435993
>tourists already panicking
france is going to score 4 goals in the last 20 minutes and I'm going to win some free money
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>>113436154
When's CCs next solo stream otomo? Her next project without leeching off gigi and autofister? Never? Thought so.
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>>113436175
This might actually happen these bullshit comebacks seem to happen every 2nd game now
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Her plans are measured in centuries.
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this thread is my toilet
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>>113436209
All according to keikaku
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>every tenth chat in kiaras chat is someone spamming ESSIE XD
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>>113436057
wtf is a sadcast
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>>113436243
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>doki switched teams the moment spain scored and is now making fun of mbappe
I see why people hate her
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>>113436257
>>113436243
>>113436209
Dumb samefag
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Jesus...
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>>113436287
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>>113434517
Nice pits
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>>113436272
Her voice filtered me. I can't even watch her content
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>>113436272
Meh I did the same lol
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>>113434517
disgusting
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>>113435572
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>This thread
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>>113436245
the doomposting trio -mori/kiara/kronii
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>>113435734
What a sweet woman.
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>>113435572
>>113436325
Kronie PLEASE
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>>113436180
very soon after her hiatus, I assume. she had a lot of them in the weeks before it.
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The French expert says the French team seems to be afraid of the Spanish players
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>>113436370
What? That's literally what happened.
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Holy fuck Kiara makes me want to blow my brains out, I always think this time it'll be different but... why do I even try?
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Spain vs England finals
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>>113436398
Kiara is a sweetheart. Just give her a chance
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>these pacey ngubus need more distinguishable features
KIARA WTF
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>>113436056
Ew, can't she follow in Liz's footsteps and take some time off?
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>>113436387
>youtube starting charge me 7.49 for memberships
it's over for me bros
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>all these niggers look the same
t. kiara
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>>113436405
I can't believe wawa is a /sp/ user
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>>113434517
are we back to hating kiara?
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Kiara is the TRUE GFE
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>>113436431
TRVTH
She needs correction sometimes though
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>>113436381
You should know that she lied about doing members streams and guerrillas.
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>>113436398
I don't know, I had a harder time trying to listen to GG; at least Kiara says something that makes sense every once in a while.
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Ffs take this mystery meat yamal faggot off.
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>>113436431
Kiara is the boyfriend experience of talking about football when you just want to play pokemon
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>>113436405
>>113436418
FUCKING BASED
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>>113436453
God do I dislike her
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>>113435572
>>113436046
Kill yourself, Blackjack
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>>113436418
>>113436405
LMAO Kiara
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>>113436024
I don't give a fuck about your retarded opinion stupid schizo
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>>113436453
cute!
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>>113436501
Maybe you should care about CC giving her fans false hope for streams she knows won't happen. Why say maybe when she means no
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>>113436453
She's so feminized now bros
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What the fuck was that
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>>113436535
more like he's too feminized lol
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>>113436534
why care about someone who hates you?
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>>113436540
He chocked
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>>113436453
Nevermind unicorns

How the fuck do sisters stand her
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>>113436540
His best try
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Kiara would let mbappe crack
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>>113436453
Every so often I am tempted to try again with Shiori and then shit like this hits
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>everybody looks like Mbappe to me
SHE LITERALLY JUST SAID THIS
LITERALLY
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>>113436588
>Every so often I am tempted to try again with Shiori
but why?
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>>113436597
Kiara is being incredibly redpilled today
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>>113436552
So you do admit she hates her fans
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Ngubappe chimpin out
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>yellow for Mbrappe because he literally just elbows the goalie while he's trying to pick up the ball
WTF LOL
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>>113436453
can they please banishment room the EN homos harder to get them to quit already
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MBAPPE IS SO MAD AHHAHAHAHA!
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Vivi is unimaginably cute
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>>113434765
>Why does Ina not get all the shit Nerissa does in this thread despite the fact that she actually homocollabed while Nerissa didn't?
Unicorns freak out more when Hololive EN collabs with Holostars EN. They might not like the Holostars JP collabs but many unicorns don't even remember most of their collabs and sponsorships. The length of interaction also makes a difference and 3 minute HoloPro song will get less backlash than a 3 hour game collab.
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Kiara is so unintentionally racist it's funny especially when she tries so hard to be antiracist
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>>113436646
She so dumb I love her.
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>>113436646
>she tries so hard to be antiracist
Says who
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>>113436630
>while he's trying to pick up the ball
You mean wasting time you retard, you don't know anything about football. Simon was being a cunt.
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>>113436646
she is European. not as racist as Asians, but they're some of the most racist
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>>113436665
At this point everyone on planet earth is just racist
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>>113436674
It's because being racist is normal.
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>>113436674
that goes without saying
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>>113435152
cancer
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french niggas actually losing, what a beautiful day this is.
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>>113434870
IRyS and biboo were spending time with their families since they never get to see them in person
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>>113436720
I'm disappointed but I guess I'll root for Spain to win now. England and Argentina both have cancer fanbases so I'll stomach my dislike for Yamal
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>>113436588
i mean just skip the homocollabs, she is not making monthly collabs with him like Mori/Kronii used to do with dumb and dumber
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>>113436750
She's tainted and ruined by hanging out with them and that affects even her other streams by staining her
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>>113436453
Shiori cute
Flaygot fucking obnoxious
Please accelerate THD by 1 month in return for France having to play the losers match
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If France loses we will forgive Shiori
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2 minutes and it's over
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>>113435734
I haven't watched a single erb stream and I won't start now.
I noped out of her debut and haven't touched her dumb ass since
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>>113436597
thats why she's wearing the french jersey in the thumbnail
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>>113436746
Yamal didn't even do anything this cup, it's all the other players that brought them to the finals
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>>113436750
>I know this girl only does meth once a week but you can still be with her and like her the other 6 days you know?
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>>113436746
What do people have against that guy anyway
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>>113436801
He's an annoying tiktok zoomer focused on his social media brand
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>>113436750
she has literally had a collab with him in february, march, april, june and now 2 in july
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>>113436801
Just kind of a flop while the media gassing him up as the next messi.
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MBAPPE WHO?!!
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Save us Messi, we cannot allow this fraud Yamal to leech a WC win from this Spanish super-team
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The better team won
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>>113436611
sex model and cute voice
>>113436750
shes kinda bitchy and I hate being among her chat
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It sounds like Vivi was rooting for France.
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>>113436795
>you can still be with her
??
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I really really don't want uppity Brits but I also don't want Yamal, Rodri and Cuckurella to win so...
I hate to say it but James please, make sure it's coming home

(also either over aRIGentina)
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Fun fact: Spain has only conceded 1 (ONE) goal this whole world cup
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>>113436869
>Save us 'Arry
Ftfy
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Kiara and Mori have been such dumbfucks before and currently now that I consider whatever hololive decided that made them both upset at the same time behind the scenes to just "piss them off" is considered good enough news for me.

Sadly I know for a fact those two would never quit because they need hololive badly like if yagoo decided to personally fire them they would personally suck his dick or take it in their ass just to change his mind from firing them because of.

1. They prioritize their music/idol career over working in hololive as a vtuber. They wouldn't get much recognition going solo.

2. Cover wont protect their ass from any content creators from all their lolcow shit on streams
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>>113436894
It's a comparison to make you understand. Why would I support someone who does sometimes every so often that I absolutely despise?
I could instead just support one of the many girls who don't do that
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>>113436869
Better start singing
>it's coming home
Then
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>>113436923
>wordwordswordswords
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>>113436923
Kiara is a sweetheart so be quiet. Also Mori will be just fine. She would never betray Hololive like Fauna did
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>>113436923
Holy word slop
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>>113436923
chumkek melty
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>>113436720
kek /sp/ mods hate france, only losing sticky i've seen
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Kiara shitting on France
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>>113436769
Based take.
We, yes >We will never shit on Holos and will instead pray for the accelerated demise of the homos so that homocollabers have no choice but to go full CGDCT
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I sure would love to be yagoo just to fuck their fat asses.
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>>113436974
Out of all the things you could say about Kiara calling her a sweetheart sure is a choice given her personality
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https://x.com/SunsetSkyline1/status/2077108799832457412
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>>113436989
Well, they were supposed to be finalists with Argentina.
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>>113436795
every single girl has streams I don't want to watch. Shiori isn't special in that regard, I just skip the streams I don't want to watch.
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>>113436642
Except it was holostars EN
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>>113437036
Playing a boring game is just playing a boring game.
Collabing with awful shitters like Jurard or Flayon actively makes her unsupportable.
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>>113437026
why did this guy start an NTR-focused alt just to draw 2 pics and then never again
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>>113436904
>James please
my boy is getting injured in the first 10 mins
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>>113437026
garbage
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It's funny the team that struggle the head against Cabo Verde, did a training arc and is playing more as a unit with less monopolizing super-stars (i'm not counting yamal doing shit other than being a magnet to defenders) is the one getting to the finals.
Shake my head weebs cheering for Japan when the true power of friendship anime team is Spain.
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Thank god the watchable orange came on, I swear to god if that chicken whore doesn't raid her...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWrwM8Kbx8
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Kiara gone....
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>>113437118
I don't think i have anything against England (until they get to the finals), but the whole It's coming home, 60 years of pain curse is too funny as a running gag.
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>>113437139
DELET!
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>>113437139
tbf Cabo Verde didn't lose a single match in regular time
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sorry kiara i'm not watching gigi
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>>113437026
Wonderful pic ngl, I love nipples peaking.
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Gigi raided
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https://x.com/Anime_ABEMA/status/2077000162556403749
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>>113437118
Who is their player figure? Kane? old dude. There is nothing interesting about england.
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>>113437139
Cabo Verde was unironically great.
They even almost beat Argentina despite the rigging. For example, a clear foul against Cabo Verde near the end wasn't called by the ref.
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Oh yeah it's time
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>>113437214
Kane looks like a mongrel so it's supposed to be Bellingham
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>no streams
bye /#/
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After supporting a communist politician, Gigi Murin now brings out anti-American rhethoric regarding football.
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He posts here?
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>>113437139
Cape Verde would have destroyed france
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>>113437139
Cabo Verde was incredibly good; the game against Argentina was the best of the entire World Cup
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>>113437253
oh come on look at all this kino
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>french kronie get banned
>France loses
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>>113437208
That's a lot of holostar
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>Gigi talking about murdering children for YT views
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GG just told the grems to shit on IRyS again for using AI
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>>113437388
>>113437368
I think I love GG now.
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Gigi just said CC has no rights.
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GIGI JUST RAPED MY DOG
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>>113436209
Now I can use this pic again lol
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>>113437388
Holy based
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>>113437388
She didn't have to tell me that
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>>113436884
i see, i always felt something off with her and im not talking about her homocollabing. But honestly i've never watched her that much
not that there's any novelite anyway
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https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/2077141668575269338
BBC or no BBC?
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>>113437208
the title
>Movin' On
really was intended to tell fans that it was the last concert, huh
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>>113436974
Mori has already betrayed hololive before what's stopping her from doing it again?
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>gigi said all sports are inherently gay (homo)
is she right?
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>>113437501
All things are inherently homo
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>>113437501
I’d say it’s more on fujos having the inherent ability to to make something out of anything
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>>113437487
Remember when Kiara was gay? lol good times.
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>>113437501
>Peak male form glistening in the sun and engaging in pitched man-on-man contests of skill and strength before retiring, dirty and sweaty, to the showers for a big communal game of grab-ass
nah
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>ShioFlay will be the only stream going when Gigi ends
Uh oh Gremtomos…
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>>113437501
soccer is pretty gay but it has nothing on american football where most plays start with one mans hands directly underneath another mans ass
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>>113437591
that's an uh oh for everyone no streams to watch
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menhera time?
https://x.com/7216_2nd/status/2077056646510268600
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>>113437487
?
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>>113437578
So never? that tracks I guess.
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>>113437501
That sounds like something a fat person would say.
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>>113437591
I'm supposed to hate Shiori when shes one of the only people who actually streams?
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>>113435152
graduate all of them
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>>113437487
idk what you're talking about he's the whitest of white men
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>>113437609
What is it about?
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>>113435300
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Gigi has definitely seen the haaland x bellinghan posts on twitter
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>>113437666
>My Little Pony Song
I fucking love Nerissa.
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>>113437684
that ass slap...
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>>113437666
>uncensored!
did she cut off something or what?
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>>113437609
>>113437649
https://x.com/fubuchandayo/status/2076980492256395268
Not menhera it's about some holomem still in a VC channel and hasn't noticed and left
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>>113437609
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>>113437738 (me)
oh never mind, im a retard
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>>113437723
yeah.. its honestly weird she hasn't talked about it yet
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oz4XC5oM3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oz4XC5oM3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oz4XC5oM3c
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>>113437086
Bad numbers
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>>113437578
She's a hag, and she's aware of her eggs drying up
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Someone is bumping this nijisanji app thread shit is 2 day old now
>>113406465
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>38,922: Pekora (Hololive)
>31,974: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>25,674: Miko (Hololive)
>24,753: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>23,183: Hinano (VSPO)
>22,687: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>20,395: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>18,290: Patra (Indie)
>17,812: Honma (Nijisanji)
>16,099: Lulu (Nijisanji)
>14,034: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,001: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,781: Watame (Hololive)
>12,679: Toru (Nijisanji)
>12,642: Bijou (Hololive)
>12,191: Sakyo (Nijisanji)
>11,795: Mio (Hololive)
>11,122: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)
>10,665: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>10,358: Kanato (Nijisanji)
>10,249: IRyS (Hololive)

Gold for Pekora, once again besting Koshien with Maimoto getting silver with the Koshien recap and Miko, bronze
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Anyone want a CC membership join her free chat
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>>113437904
and get doxxed?
lmao nice try I am neither a poor fag nor retarded
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>>113437894
Global, imagine this! Niji is getting absolutely thrashed on Koshien month, even with the King Engine pumping them the fuck up.

What do you think?
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>beggars expecting holo x homo art
>reality
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>>113437945
who the fuck ties their yt account to anything irl
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>>113437968
can't be too paranoid these days
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>>113434669
>The biggest source of money for Cover is merch sales and the second, events (concerts). Raden is not excelling in either
Anon.... That girl is collabing with London national museum, she did a collaboration with those super famous Taiwanese puppet guys, her merch gets sold out instantly, she had her own Nintendo switch game, she is the ambassador at multiple museums. These things are insane level of achievement for someone who debutted 3 years ago. She is built different. She is doing all of this while still being an idol. She sung all of her own songs without pre recording live during her birthday.
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>>113437870
wtf is that their own "nijiplus"?
KEK did we talk about that here?
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>>113437997
Fair enough, they go out into the wild.
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>>113435779
she's always been a shitter permastuck in low 3view territory on twitch, most of NL's audience fucking hates her (so do i, she's insanely unaware of how annoying she can be) but they will tolerate her as long as she's not on stream too often
like she overstep recently by dragging NL into way too many chuuba collabs and the subreddit threw a fit about her
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>>113438055
one question, of all times why now?
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>>113438035
No one here really cares about niji
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grems hope you're ready to get raided into this later
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>>113437904
Don't waste your money
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>>113438081
I just want to support my oshi and after YT cut cover and euro to cad conversion, it's probably like 40 bucks which she can then get herself a nice meal for one day.
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>>113438134
She had atleast 100k on her bank account doing basically nothing and the shareholders she sucks off to get all her projects give her some pocket change too
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QRD?
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>>113438165
ewww
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>>113438155
I'll keep supporting CC and you can keep seething here nigger
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>>113437307
Rare cute Niji
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while I'm at it ill drop a 10 on gig as well
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why did they made Major a quiky chungus girl failure lesbian in the new GiTS
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>>113438183
You're wasting your money on someone who hates you and doesn't care about you at all.
What are you supporting? Collabspam, indefinite hiatuses? Her fan hating behavior? Her constant lies?
She's worse than gura. Bur well there's some chumbuds who held o until the very end. You can look to them to see your future too
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>>113437666
As usual the anti den has leaks
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birgit do you really camp this thread 24/7? don't you have something else better to do?
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>>113438035
>>113438083
More like no one really knows what's going on with niji since technically this thread is a bubble
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brother we watch vtubers i dont think anyone here has anything actually important to do
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>>113438253
Not a single person on that Twitter is human
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>>113438250
CC apparently has so many better things to do than think about her fans even once. What's funny is that now we know that she gives a rats ass about fan art and her manager is retreating those, since she has no obligation to look at it now so she won't and doesn't care.
I pity all the talented people wasting thier effort on her
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>>113438204
to punish you for watching anything made after 2012
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>>113438163
chick as in uncooked chicken nugget
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>>113438204
Science saru is globohomo propaganda
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>>113438253
i mean this thread used to make fun of shit like this
just tell how much they fell off that nobody here cares anymore
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>>113438294
>>113438316
the lesbian sex scene was great though
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>>113438286
Check the repost anon. None of the sister comment under the post they repost it
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gg is chinese
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>>113438025
>These things are insane level of achievement for someone who debutted 3 years ago.
If that doesn't reflect into any actionable numbers in the metrics that matter
>live audience
>sales
>video views
>subscriptions
it is as hollow as interviewing the grwatHolloywood movie *Mobiius* lead actor. It might feign to be remarkable but, in reality, meaning fuck all
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I genuinely find the CC schizo funny. You can tell they are literally on the verge of tears with every post. Post more, here Ill help. CC is good, hope your ready for streams when she comes back Aug 5th otomos!
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>>113438318
Watch hour wise a lot but mindshare wise they are pretty much doing way better because they have started putting out events and stuff also they have cultivated a big fujo fanbase who buys shit ton of merch. Plus any color is now producing their own mv's instead of relying on outside production group like how Hololive does to save money
https://youtu.be/AFaWBGveFOM someone shared this a couple of thread and if being non-biased the song is actually good.
They do bot the ever living shit out livers but so does everyone in the industry take the kpop people for instance the entirety of BTS growth has been through botting their views
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>>113438204
The Major has always had lesbian sex since the original manga, she's bisexual and transhuman, doesn't really care who she fucks. She's also a lot more slapstick and there are a lot more sex jokes in the original manga. I think she didn't become the super serious hyper-competent character Americans know until the movies and SAC.
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>>113438418
>Watch hour wise not a lot
>>
>>>/sp/156761718
why are americans like this
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>>113438385
She will either come back to a sponsorship, collab or will extend her hiatus.
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>>113438286
Every post in popular jp accounts ends up like this
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>>113438460
I hope so
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>>113438360
>>live audience
This has gone up
>>sales
She has multiple solo merch being sold out at physical venues like in art galleries and museums
>>video views
She went viral for her shorts and is one of the girls who has 10+ million views shorts, she has done multiple collaborations with indie vtubers and corpo
>>subscriptions
She is the most subbed girl in regloss even above hajime who has put out banger after banger songs
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>>113438460
for someone who supposedly likes cc you sure to want her to fail
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>that lig op image is still up
lol jannies don't exist here anymore lmao
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>>113438442
It's fucking Simon cuckjack using his VPN shit
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>>113438521
The what now?
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Qrd?
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>>113438204
Didn't read the manga award
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>>113438511
I just know her bullshit. She's not even going to tweet in those 3 weeks and the only time she's saying something is to announce that she has surprise surprise more deadlines and more projects you will never see
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>>113438548
aew
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>>113438546
Ernoul is being retarded again
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>>113438521
>green nipples
ewww
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Brigit is actively making my Brain skip long ass paragraph seethe if it has cc in it.
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>>113438565
didn't we got to see a bunch of those projects already? especially the one you said you would take carbon monoxide poisoning for?
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>>113438546
Sounds like a recap of their last stream, someone here posted something like that word for word, he either stole it or also watched the stream.
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>>113438546
>shiori is killing the homos with her mere presence
KINO
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>>113438415
What?
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>>113438589
>ccgg slop
>acrylic stand
>another collapsong
Wow huge stuff for her fans there. Really worth the indefinite hiatus CC thanks. I'm sure your sharehol- I mean fans are happy about another round of autofister merch to buy to go with thr ccgg comedy hour.
I know her project is some trash either gigi but why is only CC taking an indefinite hiatus for it
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>>113438546
Did he watch the collab?
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>>113438509
>This has gone up
Again, she's 42nd out of 61 active Holos
>She has multiple solo merch being sold out at physical venues like in art galleries and museums
In numbers comparable to Nene and other middle of the table Holo girls
>She went viral for her shorts
This is the one thing I can give you (and her): she got absolutely viral doing the OPPOSITE of her claim to fame: by doing an animesque voice and having the CUTEST animation coupled to her image she got really viral on TikTok and YouTube shorts.
>She is the most subbed girl in regloss
Thanks to the above mentioned shorts and 30k ahead of Hajime
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>>113438418
no way you actually think this song is good, it's the worst type of jpop slop that you would hear in some ultra shit isekai
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>gyaru yuri
??????????????
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>>113438614
ccgg are getting married this weekend
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yeah just ignore the elephant named lagtrain in the room. That's all the (you) you'll get outta me dude, your hilarious
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>>113438546
homo fans are having a hard time jerking it to the collabs cause shiori makes fun of the homo
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>>113438546
Shiori constantly humiliates and degrades him on stream.
Most of the time he seems "okay" with it but every now and then you can really tell that it's actually kinda hurting him but he doesn't know what to say or do about it since he simply doesn't have the balls to say anything when she slaps the collar png on his L2D, makes fun of how small he is, and starts excitedly giggling about how much she'd love to see some ingame monster pump him full of seed again.

Like it's really easy to see that Shiori has zero respect for the guy, I'm not sure she even likes him really.
She definitely gets off on having power over someone like that in a highly public setting like a stream.
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>>113438640
It's good enough for the sisters to listen. Look at its views it's already at 100k in 10 hours
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>>113438656
You mean the song CC hates so mich She's on indefinite hiatus because it's successful events ought she doesn't want it to be?
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>>113438649
unicorn horn growers of JP
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why are most vtuber models whitewashed?
arent most of them asian
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gigi be like
>if only...
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>>113438696
https://files.catbox.moe/iicjxe.mp4
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>>113438546
>>113438671
I can't imagine who the Shiori-Flayon stuff appeals to. I don't mean that as a hyperbolic way of saying "I think it's shit", I mean I literally cannot conceive of what sort of human would find that watchable. I'm really glad it's not my problem on any level.

Shiori is such a weird case, when she sang Haachama's song at Serendipity it made me think of how sweet she is, but then her day-to-day content is stuff like this. I just choose not to perceive or engage with it
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>>113438671
Is this your way of justifying her homocollabs?
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>>113438696
anime girls are inherently Asian
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>>113438679
>Look at its views it's already at 100k in 10 hours
That's fucking awful. man.
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>>113438709
COOKIE IS THIS CUTE?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
>SHE TRULY IS THE MISSING LAMY!
TANIGO, HIRE HER! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!
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>>113438653
How is that a work trip?
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>>113438660
I mean have to seen the chat logs when the homo didn't download his game on time? kek. It's just genuine bullying and his fans don't like it
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will gigi raid shiori?
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>>113438638
>Again, she's 42nd out of 61 active Holos
You can only quantify this because you only have sub data can you explain why a dev_is girl was able to get her own Nintendo switch game developed outside of Holo indie? She even appeared on national television morning talk show because how insanely viral her meme song was.
You are just being obtuse about her for no good reason or you just hate her because she able to collab with men and still be successful
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>>113438713
shiori wants the nimi audience
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>>113438715
No? I fucking hate them and wish she'd stop.
I just think the only reason Shiori does it is because she has some twisted fetish and actually gets off on it, not because she's some ERB tier saviorfag
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>>113438713
I see it this way.

>Shiori was mentally affected by Ame and Fauna's graduations, which pushed her to homocollab
>Then the downsizing for the Homos came and, to her, it's Fauna and Ame all over again
>So she tried to help, a lot
>But no one liked it, and she only ended up ruining his already piss poor numbers
>So she became bitter and angry

She's homocollabing out of spite, to make Machitroons (and Novellites) angry, since they let the Homos die. Flayjeet isn't stopping her because Shiori is the only remaining connection they have to Hololive proper.
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>>113438715
sounds to me that her homocollabs serves no purpose for anyone except for her urges to humiliate that fag
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>>113438718
It ain't because by your viewpoint all hololive songs are doing bad then.....
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>>113438743
shes had that for the past year
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>>113438713
>Anon finding out IRL people are multidimensional characters
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>>113434789
She did not, she excommunicated an idiot who sperged out, caused a dramawhore to get a free lunch off drama, and called that dramawhore cancer. She then ignored when a troll spammed her with money about doing a song with the boys as a falseflag. You can be mad about some inconsistencies, but she is one of the most supportive Hololive members bar none. Ready to help with music, lyrics, attend lives, cook when you're sick, come over to clean, the whole nine yards. She is also ever-present with the fandom, while some more prominent past people who got a free pass for not showing a peep for months until its was okay to then shit on them too. Fuck off with your bullshit.
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>>113438731
her vtuber career is dead but she's still a multimillionaire and has no reason to join Hololive
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>>113438671
It's funny to see because YOU KNOW his audience wants to seethe openly on twitter but they'll just get their faces carved in like last time
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someone post the shiori clip where she out of complete nowhere tells flayon how much she wants to choke and rape him while he's playing in a street fighter tournament match and it breaks his concentration and he gets fucked up and eliminated
i thought that was really funny
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>>113438771
IRyS had the same numbers without KPop tactics
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>Dream husbando is 9S
>Thirsts for shotas and femboys
>Latest thumbnail is homo as a crossdressing femboy
>But the homos are just like her siblings right?
Oh no no no Novelcucks ...

>>113438713
It's called farming goodwill, she knows the homo collabing hurts her, but she loves it too much to call it quits. That's why she overcompensates by doing shit like ShioRaven and Zeta Yuri bait slop.
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>>113438755
Flayjeet isn't stopping her because he doesnt have the balls to do anything for himself in the same way he doesnt have the balls to stand up against her mockery
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>>113438801
>without KPop tactics
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>>113438742
>You can only quantify this because you only have sub data can you explain why
It is you and not me conflating being talked about by whoever is talking about her and having any impact outside whatever niche you are pigeonholing her in.
Chris Chan is one of the most talked about persons in the western world and I doubt anyone would call him successful out of it.
There are some very simple public metrics to compare vtubers and in most of them if not in all of them Raden really comes up short in relation to the rest of the Holo girls
She's undoubtedly ahead of the rest of the Regloss girls but, yeah, that's as remarkable as Moona being ahead of the ID1 girls
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>>113438806
Something which DINOFAG DID

DINOFAG, JURARD T PAGPAG TOLD SHIORI TO FUCK OFF, AND THIS NIGGA COULDN'T.
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>>113438797
...lay off the porn for a while eh anon?
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>>113438801
Irys song is 3 days old
The niji men song is 10 hour old
Wait till the end of the week because songs need atleast few days to decide if it takes off or not
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Why did CC give her fans false hope of ever coming back?
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>>113438442
kfp...
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>>113438821
>JURARD T PAGPAG TOLD SHIORI TO FUCK OFF
really? dang
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>>113438786
SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!
>THE MISSING LAMY WILL BE ACQUIRED!
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>>113438802
I'm going to be honest with you: there isn't a single Shiori fan in here, they've all moved over to Tower. What you see here are falseflaggers.
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This novelcuck cope about how Shiori's homo collabs are good actually is so embarrassing, no one is forcing you to stop watching her but why do you feel like you have to come explain to your cool friends in /#/ that actually she's epically destroying the homos by bantering with them
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bros ngl, I fell in love with Shiori more than all holo ens
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>>113438786
>multimillionaire
huh?
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>>113438834
Back when Shiori got heat for calling Flayjeet a rapist, some people tried to run defense for her by saying
>Oh but what about Dinopagpag joking like this and that
And Dinofag shut that shit off.
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>>113438822
no that's a real clip it was posted here weeks ago from twitter but i cant find it in my history anymore sadly i just remember flayon sounded really weirded out because of how serious shioris voice was and then got really depressed that he lost like that but didnt say anything about her costing him the match like that lmao
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>>113438820
How are you basing her 42 out 61 then subs right?? So are you telling Raden has less mindshare than someone like moona who is 25th on the list. Aren't you being too biased here?
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>>113438847
kek
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>>113438821
When? Because the only thing I remember was him throwing Shiori under the bus to twitterfags and in his subsequent post threw a subtle implication that Shiori is immature if she doesn't apologize. One twitterfag called him performative and dinofag replied without addressing the argument the twiiterfag made
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>>113438842
But no one is saying they're good, have some nuance once in your fucking life, we're talking about the effects of Shiori homocollabing like a maniac and how it's ultimately negative for the Homos
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>>113438842
No one is really watching her, anon. And she killing them was unintentional, but welcomed. I know you hate her, but chill out.
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>>113438671
it would be funny if all the hetship fanart between them is the reason she's doing extra hard with humiliating him lol
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>>113438878
As negative as it might be for the homos, it's worse for hololive
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>>113438842
Are these novelcucks in the thread with us right now anon...?
I don't see a single person saying they are good.
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>>113438891
Probably, if you notice out of all the art she does end up retweeting that involves the two of them, she avoids every single one that could be seen as shipping and only retweets the ones that are either full on memes or straight up humiliation.
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>>113438869
I am not being biased and I agree with you that Raden in her niche and Moona in her niche have about the same "mindchair".
It is not me saying Raden is "one of the most succesful holos out there", it is anon at >>113434292. What I am saying is that
>no she's not
and that she's up there with Aki and Moona in her level of success
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>>113438899
Not really, for Hololive is a fork found in kitchen situation, whatever Novellite is still watcing, he ain't going to drop Shiori now

However, in the case of the Homos, Shiori is being an active headache for whatever project they have. Flayjeet had to choose between his gachis and Shiori and he chose WRONG
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Shiori can do whatever she wants, I don't really care. I just wish Zeta and Nerissa grew a spine and stopped playing along with her antics. Being used as a shield constantly as a collab partner is gross
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>>113438842
I don't watch Shiori. It's just funny watching an audience who were seething at "holoincels" slowly act like femicorns every time Shiori collabs with the homo. You can look at the superchats that he got from the collab and compare it to his other streams
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>Shiori is killing the homos from the inside
so we forgive her?
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>>113438946
Not until the job is done
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>>113438944
you can even compare collab to collab with that 4th stream
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>>113438942
Nerissa did, ShioRaven collabs all but died ever since Shiori became a homocollaber. She loves Shiori and every interaction they have is really sweet but Nerissa hasn't had any interest to collab with Shiori since then save for wrapping up a few games.

And to play psychologist, Zeta probably sees a repetition of the situation that happened to her and Dingo but with Shiori, and she tries to help so Shiori doesn't get reduce to one character trope.
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>>113438920
She keeps those for the goon folder she uses before each stream with him.
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>>113438920
Has any homo collaber retweeted ship art
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>>113438923
But she is successful but not the most successful and that in itself is a pretty big deal
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I don't get how people can get into femdom stuffs. I thought it is for women only but even in mostly male spaces, there are fags who will just eat them up for breakfast
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>>113438546
Shiori asked what SA in Street Fighter means and joked about how she "doesn't think it's the thing that Flayon does all the time" - Sexual Assault, she was basically calling him a rapist.
It made a lot of people very mad
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>>113439006
Ollie.

Ollie has a sickening relationship with Dinofag that's just...incredibly weird
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You know Shiori is watching this thread, right?
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>>113438944
>It's just funny watching an audience who were seething at "holoincels" slowly act like femicorns every time Shiori collabs with the homo
Homobeggars and the few actual homo gachis are different audiences. The beggars are loving the Shiori homo collabs as can be seen by the spam on twitter.
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kronii raora gigi cece in LA
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>>113439006
Ollie
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>>113439032
>kronii raora gigi cece
You can just say Justice
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Shiori must have the hottest god tier design ever because I don't remember you faggots crying about Kronii this much.
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>>113439025
Hi Shiori I'm white and in shape please have sex with me
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>>113438649
lilika playing dangerous games
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>>113439049
the sad part is that she genuinely does have the best design
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>>113439025
I really don't think any hololive girl comes here anymore anon most of them gauge holotower for reactions I think. (Since that's were the merch buying people reside)
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>>113439049
The situation with Kronii was completely different and much more aggressive, we couldn't have conversations like these with SALT since those were 5view streams.
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>>113439015
I only like soft femdom, because shit gets weirder the harder it goes, but for me are 2 sides that I like about it. One is the fact that I can just give the control to someone else obey and get rewarded for it. And the other one is more of a pampering one, where the lady knows how you like it and is going to force it out of you, kinda like a rape but not quite.
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>>113439077
Kronii had the same antagonistic banter dynamic with Vespiss though
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>>113439049
The big difference is how things played out.
She didn't acknowledge dramafags or containment breakers and she didn't give beggars the hetshipping fantasy they expected.
She managed to anger the two biggest and opposing groups of retards while also getting everyone that isn't severely mentally ill to not care about it in the first place by, once again, not acknowledging it.
So what you end up with is a bunch of brown retards on /vt/ angry they didn't get their way.
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>>113439090
Kronii literally never went even 10% as far as Shiori does.
Like literally, I don't believe you've watched a single one of those streams if you think it's at all comparable.
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>>113439083
the mind really is an enigma huh?
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>>113439025
What's she gonna do? stop homocollabing to be contrarian? lol
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>>113439090
Two key differences, whatever...Vespertomo (I dunno) there was, either didn't mind or liked it, Machitroons fucking hate it.

And again, the difference in numbers is clear. Most of Dumb and Dumber's best streams were those homocollabs, opposite to Shiori's homocollabs which have been nothing but number poison for both the man and the woman.
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>>113439113
>I don't believe you've watched a single one of those streams
Yea no shit nigger I don't watch homo collabs. She still told him to cut his dick off or whatever.
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>>113439049
You're pretty much completely wrong, Kronii was massive (she was the second most popular EN at her peak) and her whole saga was confusing, controversial, and had a lot of fallout on her career. It was a much more meaningful episode in Hololive EN history.
Shiori was a niche talent, is still a niche talent, and the weird stuff she does might be fun for anons to discuss (if they're into that) but has zero reverberations or cultural influence on the rest of the community or branch. Shiori, while popular among the other girls on a personal level and has RM cred in vtubing history, is one of the least important ENs ever in practical terms.
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>>113439162
>Shiori was a niche talent, is still a niche talent, and the weird stuff she does might be fun for anons to discuss (if they're into that) but has zero reverberations or cultural influence on the rest of the community or branch
You can say this exact statement statement for all of advent and justice sans fuwamoco
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Kronii doesn't care for Fauna's husband. She prefers gymbro
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>>113439140
Shiori literally talks about how submissive and breedable Flayon looks and how it's making her wants to breed his boy pussy.
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>>113439162
mmm Kronii's massive milkers
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>>113439032
>>113439046
>Blue Justice is peak
Would greatly improve the gen if they replaced that lazy hag with Kronii.
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>>113439197
I think Biboo is pretty good too
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>>113439138
The Shiori collabs are a buff for the homo too, they get better numbers than any of his other streams except for short lived raid peaks
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>>113439197
Biboo and Nerissa homocollabing would be a far bigger disaster than Shiori.
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>>113439162
Well, that's not fair. Advent being unicorn-friendly was a sign from Cover that they were finally getting the fucking message. Shiori reneging on that, along with the appearance of the scarlet rot, signaled the opposite.
>Actually, Advent was NEVER unicorn friendly, chud, and she warned you at debut.
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Is Shiori nastier than Pero?
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>>113439200
>and how it's making her wants to breed his boy pussy.
I'm pretty sure she doesn't actually
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>>113439230
Just Biboo. No one cares for Nerissa
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>>113439243
She does actually.
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>>113439236
>Advent being unicorn-friendly was a sign from Cover that they were finally getting the fucking message
Them not shutting down Holostars already should have been the smoking gun that was never the case.
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>>113439230
nobody would care that much

fuwamoco doing it would have people getting killed
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>>113439049
>I don't remember you faggots crying about Kronii this much.
No one got as much backlash /here/ as Kronii because we were the most invested in her out of the homo collabing girls.
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>>113439049
Since she's been taking meds for her autism Kronii's craziness has calmed down; now Shiori is the only one left to cause drama.
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>>113439306
shiori will be on meds in about a week
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>>113439270
well, yeah, but Dimitry said that they knew everyone wanted CGDCT and then Advent didn't homocollab. The homos were shuffled off to their disgusting little corner and EN finally looked like it was back on the right track.
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>>113439273
retarded biboo schizo
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>>113439306
I think Kronii feels burned by whatever Magni and Vesper did, and she's a grudge-holder. She took away the lesson to never work with holostars or trust them.
Pretty smart lesson honestly
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>>113439315
Shiori basically announced in her debut stream that she was going to do homo collabs and then novelcucks spent a year coping until the brick
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>>113439315
and all it took was justice to tear it down burn it down
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>>113439315
being CGDCT and homocollabing are not mutually exclusive.
Being unicorn friendly anc homocllabing are.
If your content is 90% Hololive only and 10% homocollabs, you're still mostly a CGDCT holo.
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>>113439049
What the fuck are you talking about, have you forgotten the three years of SNO - T shitposting that only stopped after fauna did her LLD?
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>>113439315
EN is still on the right track in that regard. Dimitri's plan was successful. Shiori isn't influential enough to derail the course of history, and in fact she did not. That was my entire point with this post. >>113439162

Kronii hurt more because Kronii was a very popular, important, and influential talent. Shiori has never and will never really be any of those things.
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>>113439356
>being CGDCT and homocollabing are not mutually exclusive.
yes they are, fuck off, not reading any more of your garbage
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>>113439334
That's also very likely.
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>>113439356
>being CGDCT and homocollabing are not mutually exclusive
lol nothing means anything anymore
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>2 hours of schizo cuckorn's cope
The fuck are you doing?
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>>113438983
Yeah, but that's because she replaced it with bloodraven which isn't an upgrade
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>>113439230
Not much. If fwmc did ruffians might unironically kill that nigga
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>>113439400
>>113439331
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>>113439360
No
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>>113439263
Nta but based on the type of vibe she give around flaygod she treats him like an pet instead of potential male to breed
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>>113439400
>>113439273
The fact that a FWMC homocollab would end in people dying on the streets doesn't mean that the other two wouldn't end poorly.
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>biboo x hakka
>shiori x flayon
>erb x jurard
>nerissa x octavio
Who's next?
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>>113439420
you know what white women do with their pets right?
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>>113439331
You okay anon!?
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Shiori doesn't do homocolab because she enjoys spending time with Holostar members; it's because NTR and cuckolding are her fetishes.
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>>113439380
What do you want the topic to be? Gigi Mamdani discussion? Going back over that Biboo <2k response poll? Plenty of circles you can very easily start if bored of the unicorn chatter lol
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>>113439015
i like when biboo bullies me
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Reminder that cuckposters are the most cucked out of any shitposters.
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>>113439432
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>>113439440
But she is not cucking anyone, at most she is pissing off people but if there is anyone feeling emasculated, it's the fucking Homo
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>>113439434
kill yourself, donie.
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>>113439421
It would be based on the history of homocollabers I think they would be fine. Bae and Mori still gets good song views kronii basically doing well,ERB and shiori are recent so can't say much, people have memory holed Ina homocollab pretty much
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>>113439356
In this thread, cgdct is used as a synonym for unicorn friendly, primarily to distance themselves from shitposting nijinigs pretending to get offended when yagoo shows up on stream
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>>113439049
Delusional. Kronii caused way more shitposting.
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>>113439468
Alright no wonder retards larp as donie.
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>She's collabing to make fun of them
>Ummm actually her collabs are accelerating THD
>She's a niche runt so it doesn't matter if she homo collabs
>If you analyze their speaking patterns and body language from their models you will see she actually despises homo collabing and only does it frequently cause she hates them. Actually this is all her secret plan to degrade him by turning him into her pet.
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>>113439486
She still gets shitposted ITT to this day
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Have any of you guys considered that shiori homo collabs because they are her friends and she doesn't want them to get fired? She did do that "how can we get the homos more fans" members post, remember?
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>>113439497
We're having a decent conversation for the first time in weeks, it's anthropologic in a strange way

Why are you trying to derail it with cuckpost shit instead of talking about fucking numbers
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>>113439483
do you think homos are cute girls? if not, do you think collabs with homos are cute girls doing cute things? explain your answer.
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>>113439520
You're not allowed to have rational thoughts here
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>>113439520
>>113438755
Yes, that was the initial part of the conversation, but if she's doing it for numberfagging sake SURELY someone would tell her she is actually doing the opposite and ruining his numbers
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Huh people are starting to notice songs not getting views nowadays
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>>113439520
>She did do that "how can we get the homos more fans" members post, remember?
Oh yeah, what happened to that anyways? people said it was for a future stream with them
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>>113439049
Yeah bro it's not like napcucks still post that vesper underwear tweet in the thread
Oh wait
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Will unicorns ever recover from losing Fauna?
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>>113439580
Who?
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>>113439483
CGDCT, in modern times, is used to describe that girl that doesn't collab with Homos but it's also not the stereotype of a pro-unicorn girl, so basically the equivalent of a 8/10
>Gigi
>Nerissa
>Kiara
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>>113439580
No Simon they won't just like how your dad left
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>>113439520
it doesn't matter what she wants
I want them to get fired
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>>113439563
It was before the dinotard threw her under the bus so take a guess
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>>113439520
Right, right, totally trying to help them.
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>>113439356
These terms are vague. CGDCT is a genre convention/trope, unicorn-friendly is "appeals to a certain subsection of the fanbase", etc.

In general, most holos are "unicorn friendly" and CGDCT if they keep male collabs on a professional level (producers, interviews with male fleshie singers/actors, yagoo on stream, unicorn oji-san, etc) and they're unicorn-unfriendly if it becomes part of routine normal stream content that feels too personal (collabs with male vtubers, playing games with male streamers, etc.)
Each individual "unicorn" has their own threshold for what's acceptable which is why it's impossible to define rules, it's know-it-when-you-see-it. This frustrates shitposters because they'd love to have a criteria by which to force the evil unicorns to excommunicate holos via rules lawyering, and they don't.
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>>113439615
kek
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>>113439563
Literally days after that membership post, six Homos announced graduation and Dinofag cried on stream, so I assume Shiori cancelled it since it would be (correctly) in very bad taste.
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>>113439554
hot limit cover has over 2 million views which is pretty good these days. its actually been picking up some traction this week thanks to it going viral
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>>113439580
A thousand Faunas are not worth even a single Mumei.
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>>113439551
I don't think she's doing it for numberfagging.
It has been mentioned before but she said a while back that the reason she started collabing more in general is because she realized she didn't get to collab much with Ame, Fauna and Mumei before they graduated (and note, the homocollabs started right after she found out about Mumei's graduation)
She has a couple of friends in Holostars, so she's collabing with them to get some streams in just in case they get shut down or graduate.
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https://x.com/jeanwanwan/status/2077138875273695262/
damn bitch got fat
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next numbers thread
>>113439627
>>113439627
>>113439627
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>>113439551
Eh...
Shiori - Flayon collabs are definitely getting him higher numbers than he would be getting otherwise. There's an argument to be made about him not getting as many superchats during the collab but it's not like it permanently chases away hardcore gachis, they're still there the next time he does a solo stream
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>>113439602
>>113439636
Oh...
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Solo streams aren't cgdct
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>>113439662
It kinda does, neither him nor Bettel have even close to their 2025 SCs.

Femicorns are a very real thing and they can't stand her "top bottom" bullshit.
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>>113439654
you might be gay if you think the left side looks better
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>>113439595
Yeah, like it said it's basically used a s a stand in for unicorn friendly when using unicorn friendly would make nijinigs start larping as unicorna
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>>113439551
>she is actually doing the opposite and ruining his numbers
Source?



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