>>113482593
fuck you OP, I hope your oshi gets accepted into Holo next

kys selenfag

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She used to be so good. I guess she was in a much worse place at the time but she unironically seems more menhera and arrogant now, like she deserves everything she gets when she's simply a lazy fuck and tries to make up for it with gimmicks and events her fans don't really care for. All they want is some 1on1 time with their oshi. A zatsu is enough but she'd rather fuck around with her friends instead. I don't even want her to come back because she's changed for the worse but she's clearly not a good fit for Hololive either. It's sad to see her end up in this state.

>>113482593
As seen before green woman are the problem

>>113482729
The irony of complaint after complaint and then still calling someone oshi.
Like a dude who hates his girlfriend, except for the 5 minutes of fucking her, he's miserable otherwise.

Imagine being this obsessed about some random woman

>>113482846
What? I watched Soya a lot. Didn't have an oshi at the time but I excitedly followed her into Hololive and was happy before the Japan arc, then it went downhill fast. It's sad and she's just not a nice person anymore and way more snappy towards her fans. She's very nice to her vtuber friends so you hear good things but as a viewer there's a maaaaaaaaassive distance between you and CC and you're constantly feeling like you're wasting her time.

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>vores a perfect indie oshi
>takes a shit on the floor
>places a blue dorito on it
Eat it up, holofag.

This thread gives off a strong "Share the mountain hololive" vibe for some reason. Also no Simon they aren't going to graduate and open fansly

>>113482846
You clearly don't understand how a married relationship works, because it's exactly like that.

>>113482593
That’s why it’s dying down, and the indie scene is no exception. Those who just want fame and use 2D characters will eventually find the 2D aspect gets in their way. It always ends up like that.

>>113482593
proof of streaming almost everyday?

>>113482896
I'm just saying man, I couldn't put up with a dismissive girl like that. Especially one who's basically a dyke.

>>113483147
Yes, I do.

i assume traveling plus the singing and dancing got to her in the end. Big surprise.

>>113483293
NTA, but she streamed 608 times in under 4 years
So about once every 2 days

I'll never understand why you people won't just watch someone else once you lose interest in your oshi. Instead of obsessing over the past just move on and find someone better. I guess some people just love being miserable.

>>113482593
Phase Anya Nyabyss deflection thread

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>>113483528
i didn't lose interest in my oshi
my oshi lost interest in me

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Was this thread made by that pathetic cc anti always leaving negative comments? Dude, fuck off already

>>113483701
nope actually, I don't need to be a schizo to point out the obvious

>>113482593
You will never get in 2view poltard roastie

>>113485392
>everyone I don't like is "Roli"
You're the real schizo here you absolute retard

holy fucking shit fuck off, we get it, she banned you from chat and you're angry about it

>>113482593
They had it so good back then and they didn't even realize it. I would never wish for someone's oshi to join Hololive, not even upon my biggest enemy.

>>113482729
This is CC!?

>>113482846
That's actually a valid criticism though

imagine not having autism and being able to tell which posts are jokes and which aren't

>>113485846
That amazing model wasn't the only thing that was lost...

>>113485392
And what did he have exactly? If CC is unwilling to change, if she doesn't even see anything wrong with how she has been behaving and treating her fans, then he is better off without her.

>>113486393
CC's numbers will never recover again, and then she'll complain and be upset that the people she told to leave if they weren't satisfied, actually left. Like a true woman moment waiting to happen.

>>113482593
I don't know what CC did to you but you really need to let it go man

>>113485772
lmao janny confirmed you're a spamming faggot who got banned from CC's chat

>>113482636
a fate worse than death

>>113482729
SHIORI COUNCIL?

>>113482593
She want to be the leader, not the british hag

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>>113483293
NTA, but I decided to look up the actual stats. The yellow squares represent a day she streamed, and she streamed an average of 3.7 hours per stream. I have no idea how this compares to how she streams as CC.

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Roli, Kraya, and Birgit were right.

>>113482729
Crazy how this rigging is better than every hololive model too. Corpos are so soulless.

>>113482593
Damn that's genuinely sad

Elusive goatse

I'm too lazy to find it but imagine the shachi anf nimi models from that 1 flop ligger concert are posted with this reply
>the indie pill

>>113482846
Your oshi is a grown woman she doesn't need you to always white knight her.

>>113489699
Best post on the board.

>>113483528
>waaaaaah waaaaaaah don't criticise my ewhore

>>113482593
Eeh, you're being a bit disingenuous.
She fit streams around her work schedule and she never really finished that many games, and she still took breaks.

But hanging out with and watching movies her was cool I guess.

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>mmmmmm

>>113487962
kek if she ever goes Indie again it would be hilarious watching her and shondo fight over each other who is the alpha female of the group

>>113489664
Deflection, the liggers got the best of CC and now you're stuck with an used goods washed up whore who doesn't stream

>>113482593
I wouldn't know, I only watch Hololive.

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It was the curse of Shondo

>>113491033
Damn you only watch a hand full of sponsored streams every two weeks?

this thread is Roli / Birgit 80% samefagging. The rest is people that still havent learn to not respond to Schizos.

>>113489820
>She fit streams around her work schedule
the same workschedule she seems to fill up to the brim because that's what her managers and shareholders like. And pleasing her shareholders and suits is her top priority right now.

>>113491121
whatever make you sleep at night

>>113491116
That's how people with a job watching stream, unless you're unemployed and only complains, kek.

>>113491395
>y-you don't matter t-to me!! But I still come to every thread to let you know!! A-And I bbet you cry yourself to sleep tonight, like I do, NO YOU DOOO!!!!
okay holocuck, enjoy your empty shell that was once a person

nice roleplay gaylord. Still hasnt said im wrong tho.

>>113491391
Holy ESL king, yeah no wonder you only watch Hololive, kek.

>>113491497
>now I will vaguepost to make it seem like I wasn't totally blown out the water and my blatant projection wasn't called out

>>113482593
This thread is full of holodrones who don't even have a counterargument and just say "fuck you, hololive good" like robots.

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>lose track of her when she went corpo but felt happy for her even though I hated the bridge burning that came with it
>fast forward to now
>someone keeps making daily catalog bait threads about her specifically
>constant namedropping of some schizos like I'm supposed to know who they are
what kind of hellish existence is this

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AIEEEEEE HOLODRONES ARE STALKING ME

>>113491635
it's called going corpo

>>113491567
The counter-argument is that there are a handful of EN talents who don't fuck over their fans constantly while simultaniously begging for more money constantly. Just do better and pick better and you'll be fine.

It's not just Cecilia, you can tell all the girls hate what it's become. Not saying it's not a cozy, privileged gig but they are clearly taken advantage of by soulless nips on the regular

>>113491814
It's a job. You can't act like it's a job when you're an indie because it'll turn off most people.

>>113491838
as an indie CC streamed because she enjoyed it, now she does it when she needs money.

>>113491854
There's a bit of passion there for sure, but it turns into a job when you add 300 pounds of corporate bullshit that makes them the money. If people go into Holo looking for a '9 to 5', i.e. 40-45 hours of work a week, stream times are going to plumit with all the bullshit work on the back end that fans barely get anything out of. I don't think she hates streaming now, I just think she budgets her time with that in mind, like 50-60% of EN.

>>113491890
she hates solo streaming because she's been ((influenced)) by hololive to see her fans as disposable bags of money.
Collabs are just fine for her but she can't spend more than 3 hours with her fans because she doesn't respect them.
Something more important is calling you see, a discord call with her coworkers, some quality time with her managers, anything really.

>>113491924
You act like this is any different than that 50-60% of EN that I mentioned. I know you really want her to hate you, but it's purely because she treats it like a job. If you have less meetings and recordings in your 45 hour week job, you'll have more time to stream. As an indie she had way more time to actually give to streaming during her 'work week'.

>>113491567
Why should I give a fuck? No one's going to change anyone's mind on this board, ever. You'll just make another thread bitching about how she hates you now and muh ebil corpos
you "people" don't deserve an argument

>>113491973
>You act like this is any different than that 50-60% of EN that I mentioned
it is, CC has the most collabs out of any EN with the lest solo streams.
> I know you really want her to hate you,
if above isn't proof of that I don't know what is, maybe letting her manager talk to her fans by proxy.
> As an indie she had way more time to actually give to streaming during her 'work week'.
she had a full time job holocucks bring up to shit on her since it hurt her hands permanently.

imagine this board without schizos

>>113482729
I wish I was there during her Barbie girl days, I got into vtubers very late.

>>113492228
it's like hololive with active streams, a pipedream.

Having dyke sex is more important to a lot of women than anything else. Based.

the world would be better if all yuritrannies instantly died

>>113487962
yeah shes a control freak

>>113491567
there is no argument to be had, you are using a health scare in her family to seethe about the busier more eventful vtuber path that she chose
>>113485922
>>113489767
>le criticism
shitting on her and making shit up isn't criticism

>>113492518
>sacrifice your time you have with your parents to chase a once a year concert and sponsorship deals!
very cool holobros!

>>113491567
are you pretending this thread not started by some /lig/tard
move on roliturd

What did CC even do to get such a dedicated schizo?

the world would be better if all yuri haters instantly died

>>113491507
For the record, that wasn't me who answered you. And the sponsored streams, well, I avoid them. But with JP, there's always 5 streams ongoing, so it's not like I'll be forced on one. (I watch 90% JP only).
It's a bit the same as avoiding male collabs if you don't like them. /vt/ could never understand.

>>113493640
stage 3: bargaining

>>113493484
It's a ligger who made the thread, which is honestly fair because CC unknowingly became prime ligger propaganda by having this much contrast on corpo behavior compared to her indie behavior

>>113493839
>holofags are now blaming CC for betrayal
sheesh not even your own are safe from the purity spiral huh. Anything to defend the brand

>>113493484
Mostly lying and overall be a disappointment, stuff like otocranks not getting shit, not finishing games, playing boring games, low amount of streams, repeat shit she did as an indie, etc etc. Not to mention she also has been quite antagonistic to her own viewers basically giving them the middle finger, which is never, never a good thing to do let alone in the entertainment business, no matter how much some fans deserve it that's just something you just don't do.

All in all, out of all the anti posters or whatever, this has been one of the most valid ones purely because there's plenty of evidence to support their claims.

>>113493484
Become too big to be groomed by OP.

>>113493917
it's so much better that middle aged japanese men in suits groom her instead right holobro?

>>113493906
Deserved, I'm honestly surprised there aren't more schizos, considering she was the one rising star every holofan here was looking forward to. Funny how that turned out

>>113493936
ya because that man is me

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>>113493484
Probably this

>>113493986
he got utterly mindbroken and quintupled down

>>113493986
he left her behind and is now just a convinent scape goat for cover interns to divert blame onto

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What went wrong?

>>113493986
>it all started because of this one comment
>she could've just ignored him
It all comes tumbling tumbling down

>>113494042
it was more like the straw that broke the camel's back really, just like the assassination of that useless prince that sparked WW1

>>113493986
On one hand it was completely 100% deserved on the other hand letting the mask slip is never good

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>>113494040
for comparison when she streamed part time

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>>113482593
>>113482729
People change, anon. People change.

What exactly does Holo make their talents do that makes it impossible for them to stream? Are they seriously doing singing/dancing lessons for 6+ hours a day to the point they're too exhausted for even a short 2 hour stream? I don't get it.

>>113494016
yes, I never got the vibe that roli was a schizo necessarily.
he was incredibly aggressive in public and probably has aspergers considering the tone of every criticism he sent
but I think he had still had enough intelligence to direct that where CC can C and not just shit up a papuan moonwalking forum
arguably the anti isn't here to shit on CC, he's here to shit on CC's fans

>>113494164
Same shit as always. Their 'work time' gets eaten up by a bunch of horseshit and they don't want to fully kill their personal life for their job. Something's got to give after they build that foundation.

>>113493975
That's fine because Hololive likes to hire them. See lyger

>>113494197
I was under the impression that the named anits (roli and the other one) fucked off after CC banned/bitchslapped them

>>113494182
No, because JP does it just fine. People will bitch that the talents who seem to opt out the most and have cut back the most are the ones who live outside Japan, but that's bullshit too. There's just more people outside of Japan who don't want to spend every waking moment working, and they see all of it, streaming included, as work.

>>113494241
There is a reason why EN members pretty much either move to Japan or graduate and become an indie

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>>113494286
But even the ones who go to Japan fuck over their streaming. We've got a 50/50 on the ones who went there cutting back heavily on streaming after the move.

>>113494282
That doesn't answer my question. I'm asking what work Holo is making them do, and why it causes so much burnout. I watch multiple indies who've streamed consistently for 5+ years while working full-time jobs, including one in Japan, it just doesn't make sense to me why so many Holo members stop streaming after they join.

>>113494352
I think some of them want to do idol shit so they don't mind cutting back on streaming for lessons/practice although there are exceptions like Biboo who seems to want to do both

>>113494182
Obviously not, they use those as excuses, and those excuses do nothing but make Hololive look bad, but it's better than those bitches blaming themselves, because women would never dare do such a thing

>>113492559
who are you quoting

>>113494367
If they're in any sort of collab with a company, that's a handful of meetings at least
If they have merch coming out, that's a handful of meetings
If there's an event being planned (which have increase ten-fold in the last few years), there's meetings
If you want to do something special, there's meetings
If you want to make a cover or orisong, there's a ton of meetings
It's not just singing and dance practice and the actual performing, there's a bunch of other horseshit that comes along with it and you'd know that if you watched streams of anyone who occasionally bitches about it.

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btw if you're in this thread even to try to pushback against the rrats, cc would hate you (she hates me anyway so it's ok)

>>113494555
I'm just a tourist who is impressed she managed to get such dedicated schizos

>>113494450
That just makes it weirder because it makes it sound like Holo is disproportionately hiring lazy whores. There's tons of indies who stream 30-40 hours a week, and tons more than stream 20 hours while also having jobs/schoot/etc.

>>113494555
I'm an otomo so CC already hates me.

>>113494241
that's why they should only hire losers with no social life, all the normalfags are the ones graduating

Name three HoloENs who genuinely like their fanbase and would miss them if away for 1 week. I don't mean pickme pretend 'miss them', I mean actually parasocial can't wait to chat with her fans again and make them happy.

>>113494524
If it's actually the meetings Holo is just super inefficient and poorly managed because there's tons of indies that do everything you mentioned and don't have to cut streams to a trickle to go to meetings. Yeah they'll sometimes say "sorry I have to run, there's a meeting for a project" but still do 4, 6, 8 hour streams multiple times a week. It's not something that seriously impacts streaming volume, just a minor annoyance. Are Holomems really spending hours a day, every single day, going to meeting for something as simple as a cover song?

>>113494753
>Are Holomems really spending hours a day, every single day, going to meeting for something as simple as a cover song?
Welcome to JP corpo autism and Cover is supposed to be one of the better ones

>>113494695
Raora, Biboo and Kronii

To be honest, I just think it is the effect that a 5k ccv chat is not as enjoyable to talk to as a 3view chat

>>113494753
>Super inefficiant
You're talking about a large corporation employing 100's of worthless workers who's only job it is is to make up things to do and stamp their names on forms. Of course everything is 3x as hard as it would have been 6 years ago.

>>113482593
Furthermore, she personally ensured that OP turned gay. She broadcast "hyper-gay rays" through her streams without a second thought for the consequences. She had already hatched this plan back when she was a teenager, scraping by with odd jobs for shady used-car dealers. During those difficult years, her heart turned into a black mass of resentment.

>>113482729
Ok Better rigging than I would have expected.

>>113494862
>kronii
bro thought he was slick

>>113495089
this is true she talked about this in great detail

>>113483528
Well, that’s a fair point of criticism. If you followed her before Holo and now see a change for the worse, I can understand that.

>>113495232
I knew someone would point that out.
But just remember how she dedicate entire streams on reading superchats, how many zatsu she makes, and that cute moment was clipped of her doing reharsals pre-stream and forgot to mute.

>>113483528
You want people to be invested enough to spend money on them and push them up any possible way but the second viewers aren't happy with the development they should just silently move away. Suuure, not going to happen.

>>113483147
Murricans really got psyoped against marriage? I thought it was just a meme

>>113495232
Nta but she literally stalks her fans in conventions and knows the irl faces of some of her members.

>>113494902
This
3-views are able to have a conversation with a smaller group of people they know things about
Mid 4-views and above can only really comment on something and pick out random one liners from a sea of messages flying by

>>113495454
There is no speculating about it she already said in one of her early creativity streams that she doesn't mind the lower CCV as it helps to read the chat

>>113494555
I already know she hates me because I make a brap post every month and it's still better /vt/ content than OP

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>>113482729
NINA
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS LICK THE DAMN MATTRESS, NINA

>>113496468
I've never heard Ceci make a voice that cutesy before
She must really like Nina

>>113496601
she puts on that voice when she needs money from her fans all the time

>>113493961
GG's fans and the few otomos left are basically running interference for the schizos, but grems only see CC as GG's fuckbuddy accessory and literally nothing else.

>>113495426
That's just being a menhera Korean. Kanade likely does the same thing.

>>113496840
Tbf even Sora does that.

>>113496840
Even ERB does that.

>>113482593
This isn't exclusive to CC though. Corporate vtubing comes with serious negatives to go with the opportunity of doing expensive shit.

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>>113495227

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>assblasted /lig/gers: the thread

>>113487962
I could see that.
Got a chuckle out of me when they were playing that gnome game, and Liz came up to CC about some item they had to grab only to get brushed off by her. If Liz was any less dense that probably would've hurt a little.

>>113494352
What's the list of EN's that moved to Japan these days? I only recent ones I know are Biboo and Raora.

>>113498816
>Bae
>Biboo
>FWMC
>Nerissa
already in Japan:
>Raora
>Mori
>IRyS
used to live in Japan:
>Kiara
going to move to Japan:
>CC
>GG

>>113498955
CC and GG too? Man, so much for "EN".

>>113498955
Doesn't Ina spend large amounts of time in Japan?

>>113499246
its highly theorized she has moved there full time and just rents out her house. but she just says she goes back and forth to keep opsec

Uh oh another otomo melty

>>113498597
>top
slop
>bottom
also slop (but low quality)
if you have polished shit it's still shit

Birgit melty

Would you support Ceci even after she graduates? She may not be the same blue woman tho, she's changed, hag even

>>113498955
All EN members should move to Japan asap.

>>113499889
All EN members should move to Brazil asap rocky

>>113499939
Why would any vtuber move to Brazil of all places?

>>113499867
she won't graduate because she's sold her soul to holo already. It's in the fine print, if she graduates after having her cancerous autofister duo live she'll go back to normie life with all the money she got from scammning retarded simps

>>113498816

Myth
Mori, Ina in Japan
Kiara kicked out of Japan
Gura, Ame graduated to not move to Japan

CouncilRyS
IRyS, Bae in Japan
Kronii depressed
Sana, Fauna, Mumei graduated to not move to Japan

Advent
FWMC, Biboo, Nerissa in Japan
Shiori avoiding Eilene

Justice
Raora in Japan
CC, GG, ERB TBD

>>113500278
nice "EN" gen

>>113500278
>graduated to not move to Japan
KWAB

>>113491567
We long time ago gave up on trying to argue with monkeys like you

>Join Hololive
>Find out you don't actually have to try at all to be a successful streamer or even stream.
>Gets lazy and stops bothering.
Its all the lazy cunts she works with fault.

>>113501095
Not only that you can be sure they try to manipulate her. Advent also told Biboo it's okey to stream less

I won't be surprised if the whole leaning mostly on collabs thing is thanks to management thinking she gets better clips/metrics/engagement in a collab rather than solo

>>113501359
She started to hate otomos and doesn't want to interact with them. She can ignore chat in collabs.

>>113482593
What OP here doesn't realize is Indies can moderate their interactions with their viewers. Corpo are FORCED to deal with you faggots and insufferable unicorns that they all openly hate. It makes perfect sense why once someone goes corpo, especially Holo, they get disinterested.

I miss söya

>>113482593
EN was a mistake

pressing go live on OBS is too hard please be patient guys

>>113493961
>One rising star every Holofans here was looking for

What

>>113496468
Disgustingly cute

>>113502951
exactly what he said, when she debuted and for a time after she debuted she was universally praised here as the holoen with the most potential

>>113503529
Only for blind numberfags and also liggers bandwagoning like it's their upbringing that made CC into who she is. Most Holofans are happy with everyone in Justice, you got something for everyone, even the homosisters.

>>113503593
>Most Holofans are happy with everyone in Justice
You can't be this delusional, half of the gen doesn't stream and the only one with an acceptable fanbase and content is GG, the only ones happy with this would be braindead corpo cattle that just consume anything that's in front of them

>>113503923
>the only ones happy with this would be braindead corpo cattle that just consume anything that's in front of them
So... Most holofans then, kek.

>>113492078
>>if above isn't proof of that I don't know what is
Well, we can agree on something.
You don't know what proof is.

>>113494016
>he left her behind
He's still making these threads. He absolutely has not left her behind.

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>>113482593
Yes, I like to recieve variety of high quality content such as covers, concerts, voiceovers etc. with the streams on top of that (I mostly watch JP, but it applies to EN too), while your whore-indies feed you with generic react slop and gaming (and that's literally it)
Yes, I would rather watch my virtual idols in Holo then some generic streamer with anime avatar

>>113504587
Jesus, no wonder they don't stream, people like this defend their laziness.

>>113482593
>streams almost every day
>lots of full game playthroughs
>interacts with and likes fans
>no hiatuses
She does these things because she needs to and not because she likes it. Being an indie means she needs to work harder.

>>113506952
Downside?

>>113499246
Ina has basically been living in Japan since August 2024
The reason she hasn’t made the full move official is because she still owns a house in Canada. Keeping the utilities running and pretending she still lives there is cheaper than paying the huge vacant property tax

>>113482729
women are like that
you support them when they're down and help them get better, then they ditch you because they're better now and think they deserve someone better. they do not understand loyalty and gratitude, they get bitchy and arrogant when they're not suffering

>>113508469
>they do not understand loyalty
there are "men" who drop a chuuba if they breathe the same air as another man

>>113506584
Works hard every day at dance lessons and recordings
>>laziness
Sits home every day doing nothing, but playing games or watching videos
>>hardwork
You're insane

>>113509369
Nobody cares about their dance lessons, they're not content and you can't watch them. Streams are content.

>>113508605
>YOU OWE ME FREE UNLIMITED SUPPORT
>I OWE YOU NOTHING
>INCEL

>>113510705
signing thousands of cards isn't content either but it makes money.

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>>113510705
>they're not content and you can't watch them
This is why indie will never be as good as holo.
Being an all-around talent means many thing, it's not just about learning how to dance, is about how to apply the things you learn and you get in everything you put.
You keep your mind and body in constant training for developing skills for your fans. It's not just about streaming, it's about being healthy and feed your mind with creative stuff.

All the arguments against CC is how she "doesn't not stream". While being an hololive talent isn't just this.
Doing all the side stuff you do in Holo might be pretty tiring, especially for your voice.

>>113510771
>HOW DARE YOU TELL ME TO NOT WATCH THINGS I DON'T LIKE?
lol

>>113510771
No one ever said that you owe them "free unlimited support"
Stop being this schizo.

>>113492239
it wasn't that great and she was always one of the weakest members with the one of the worst voices aside from that literal who barbie girl.

>>113493484
>a dedicated schizo
It's her entire Soya fanbase, Ninafags, and Shoncucks that hasn't fucking moved on yet. And that number is a least in the 20s.

>>113511214
KEK. Most obvious ChatGPT generated reply, very sad you had to resort this low to defend your corpo.

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>>113499991
Because OP is Brazilian and he wants them all to start an OnlyFans

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>>113511762
>no argument against

>>113510705
Why are Holofags like this? We've told you time and time again since 2020 that it's more than just streaming in Hololive. Why are they all so ungrateful for the work they do every year?

>>113488835
>better than every hololive model
That's a big, fat lie.

>>113511818
>Sees a random clip on YT
>Joins a stream on YT and likes the content
>Streamer stops streaming for a long period
Don't complain you knew what you were getting into!

>>113511214
>You keep your mind and body in constant training for developing skills for your fans.
more like skills for your managers and shareholders since it helps the corporate IP LARPing as a talent to sell worthless plastic at 200% uptick to retarded holocattle while they defend thier shitty skinnerbox online

>>113491814
Yet they're far more professional than CC. Why's that?

Lignig thread.
No matter how much you (claim to) want it, she is never jumping back Into your crab bucket

>>113511913
>everyone is a clipfag like me o algo
>>113511956
>buying merch is bad and le cucked o algo

>>113512095
It's some self-hating Holofags here though like>>113511956

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>>113511956
I watch holo
And i didn't buy any merch
I didn't buy any member subscription

I still enjoy holo, more than any indie

What's your point then?
Do you really think it's all about "muh money" and being a "holocattle"?

>>113482593
KEKYPOOO

>>113512321
Unfathomably based free entertainment Chad

>>113512321
You're a poorfag leech and your oshi probably hates you for not providing any support, nothing to do be proud of here, you're just ousting yourself as a fake fan and claiming that as a "win"

>>113512095
we don't want her back, you can keep your used goods 1 stream per week washed up whore jej

>>113482593
This drama is so stupid. If you have enough time to watch every stream of even a single streamer then you should find a fucking job instead of whining about it. I've discovered cc a few months back and have been watching her on-and-off since, and I still have a shitton of part streams to catch up on.

Indies are just straight up better than corpos

>>113491924
None of them respect their fans. Not just Hololive. Not just vtubers. Content creators in general. They're an endless mass of shrieking monsters that would rip her heart from her chest and eat it if given the opportunity, how could she possibly respect them? There is no more loathesome creature that walks, flies, or swims on this earth, and it's difficult to appreciate how utterly despicable fans are from a distance.

>>113490851
Enjoy your garbage 3d models and LLDs while I enjoy the finest of vtubing and 3d models combined from hololive.

>>113513220
Most female streamers end up treating their fans like "children", because they have the mindset of overgrown babies

>>113494753
Welcome to the entertainment industry. Art scares the shit out of moneymen, they literally fundamentally do not understand it at best, and actively loathe it at worst. I do video editing, and do you know what one of the biggest tips for getting your work accepted after review without dragging shit out endlessly? Fuck it up. Deliberately. In an extremely obvious way. Then, when the dipshit who needs to justify his paycheck despite not having had a creative thought since the 20th fucking century has a look at it, he can go "Hey stupid editor monkey! You used comic sans for the subtitles! Change it!" Instead of trying to use his fucking pea brain to interfere with something important that you will actually have to fight for so he doesn't ruin the godamn video trying to pick at shit because he needs to pretend his opinions are worth a fucking thing.

>>113513387
Hello Ceci

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>>113512900
You changed your same point, or the point that were going on.
You just shifted from "oooh they do it for the money!!" to "what, do you have no money?? poorfag, she hates you!"
You just showed to everyone how you have no proper argument.

>>113512321
>I still enjoy holo
wow those sponsored streams and skinwaled and autotune hologram vod concerts sure are awesome. I look forward to which brand you brand me as and try to deflect to

>>113513504
I wasn't the quoted post you absolute mongoloid, I simply left my reply here to make fun of (You)r retarded and frankly embarrassing comment

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>>113513542
>I look forward to which brand you brand me as and try to deflect to
never did that.

>>113513557
>I wasn't the quoted post you absolute mongoloid
That's why i said: "or the point that were going on."
Maybe next time try to stay on point, rather than pick anything else.

>>113513557
you lost napcuck

>>113482593
>does it feel good to eat up the rusting scraps of what once was great?
it's the opposite actually. You see, when someone "graduates" from hololive and continues vtubing, its because they didn't reach hololive standards and were fired. Hope that helps! Enjoy your ligger slop.

>>113514022
nice deflection, nobody is talking about anyone that graduated from hololive retard

>>113513989
There was no point, I am just making fun of you because you dropped a retarded comment.

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>>113514059
>there was no point
So you admit you had no point
And yet, you did
You're just embarassing yourself even more.

>>113482593
Blue dorito makes it worth it.

Otomos getting EXTREMELY rapebaity with no streams

>>113514042
seems like the cover intern didn't read the briefing

>>113514083
kek I don't need to have a point to make fun of someone whenever they post some retarded shit like you just did, also why do you speak in reddit spacing? you need to go back holotranny

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>>113514386
You're saying that making fun of me was pointless, so there is no meaning in calling it "some retarded shit", since you had no point to assume that.

>>113514450
>wahh wahhh y-you insulted me without giving your point... please respect the reddiquette wahhhh
Gonna cry about it? Wanna see me do it again?

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>>113514499
>reddit again out of nowhere
>"gonna cry" argument
>still no point for what he is doing

>>113492078
Any explanation for her hands hurting or it’s just speculation ?

>>113514596
alright I'll give out my point... my point is.. I think you're a faggot and you should go back

>>113514607
she said it was due to an work accident, but nobody knows what's wrong with it and even the best doctors holo money can buy didn't figure shit out either.

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>>113514628
>i don't have a point
>alright i'll give out my point
>it's different from what we were discussing about
I'm nyooooticing

>>113514003
are you lost? /#/ is two blocks down

>>113514667
the point is CC hates her fans and streaming and you really can't say anything other then
>this is le good actually
which is pathetic. holofags have no shame though, they oshi corporate IPs masquerading as vtubers afterall

this is the most boring erp session i've ever read

>>113514629
She's had a LOT of jobs, it definitely wasn't her last job before holo.
But she's worked in just about everything from care industry to retail and warehouse.

She fell in with a bad crowd, left school without qualifications, etc so ended up working a bunch of shit jobs.

>>113514667
oh no, what are you going to do about it? cry some more? try to report me to your leddit mods?

>>113514629
Keep in mind that women over exaggerate everything, so I doubt this whole things is as true as she's saying, she's probably pity baiting

>>113508469
my GF supported me through my darkest years, and now that I'm a lot better, I'm able to help her as she got worse (cause unrelated)
I know we're the exception in many ways, but fuck it, I love the woman

Fuck off haters, I still believe in her.

>>113492228
Like a rainforest without any animals.

>>113514841
I used to aswell. But it's been years with no good news or improvements

>>113514841
I stopped believing, and honest I'm really happy with my choice in hindsight

>>113503923
I'm glad Gigi exists. If it wasn't for her, I think I would have stopped watching Holo/vtubers altogether after FWMC crushed their streaming hours and variety so much, even if I still kinda like one of the Myth members left too. At least FWMC did one thing for me, they killed my interest in hardcore supporting anyone ever again, something I wasn't stupud enough to do until 2021 when I started watching vtubers to begin with.

>>113512284
Nobody is joining in on this shit because of the singing and dancing. The whole selling point is the streams.

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>>113514684
>can't say anything other then "this is le good actually"
If all you can do is "nooo she hates her fan and streaming!!" without understanding the context and how she's living her life, then you cannot provide any real evidence to prove your point.

>>113514733
>he is repeating himself
Good

Yet another Birgit thread

>>113515119
She's not going to fuck you bro, she doesn't even stream for you in the first place

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>>113515163
>she's not going to fuck you
You just end up going with this argument then?
I see anon. So this is all you can do to go against CC.

>>113515190
You have Stockholm syndrome, that much is clear, I feel nothing but pity for you

Why do holofans cheer for and support less streams? I don't understand.

>>113515311
Because the 5 minute apperances in someone else's live or big event and the 40 extra shill streams are totally worth all the normal content lost. The Holo fans wonnered bigly.
To be fair, it really does suck if someone you like is struggling to make it work because they don't get enough support from either their fans or the company they're working with at the time. I was sad when FWMC graduated from their old gig, I really liked all the VN streams and they were fun to watch. Their first year-ish in Holo was amazing too.

>>113515119
>If all you can do is "nooo she hates her fan and streaming!!" without understanding the context and how she's living her life
that very context is proof as to why she hates her fans and streaming.

>>113515311
They don't "cheer" for less streams. They understand that the talents are busy with all sorts of responsibilities and that they sometimes need some personal time away from streaming as well.

why doesn't he just move on and watch someone else instead of spamming 4chan?

>>113515506
Mental illness

>>113515626
you really should have saged

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IndieGODs are morally superior to corpo peasants.

>>113515410
Streaming as an indie was her personal time. She enjoyed it so much that she would use it as a break from work.
For her to take a break from even that? Hololive streaming must be making her miserable.

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>>113515209
Projecting

>>113515396
>no further explanation
Are you reducing to this? I see.

>>113482593
this whole thing just makes me KEKAROOOO

Oh? it's just birgit birgitting, nothing of value here.

>Birgit this, birgit that! Everyone I disagree with is birgit!
Someone sounds obsessed.

>didn't deny it
Hi Birgit

>>113514814
Do your best to keep her, anon. Happy for you.

>>113515715
>projecting
How? My oshi streams around 5 days per week and also has time to do idol content, it's your oshi that is washed and lazy, never forget that.

>>113517576
who's your oshi? I'm curious.

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>>113517576
>how
>my oshi does this, this and this!
See? You're projecting
You're projecting how you view and what you pretend for your oshi, to me.
I don't pretend certain things. That's why there is no "Stockholm syndrome".

Remind that if she was indie she'd have to stream through a difficult period of her life instead of working for someone like hololive who's gracious to allow her leave.
She's probably incredibly grateful to Hololive for being such a beneficial employer unlike lignig fans who are demanding like the false flaggers in this thread.

>>113519319
ok birgit

>>113482593
>>113491567
What? My oshi can go on vacation and see her family?
Im going insane!

>>113519319
Only an amerimutt wouldn't have 3 months of spare money saved.

>>113519258
That wasn't projection though, I just stated two facts

>>113519659
Yurosharts don't make any financial contributions to this hobby. You call buying merch and sending SCs cuck behavior. Sit down and shut up, you're the thirdies of this fanbase.

>>113482729
>>113482593
I hope you end your life soon Rolli
We know you hate anything and everything idol

>>113520576
>We know you hate anything and everything idol
Let's be real almost everyone here does. Roli is just an extension of the terminal 4chud that uses this place as his outlet for everyday life.

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>>113520259
>it-t's not a projection
You facts are based only on your insecurities, not really on me. You don't know what i like or what i don't outside of what i've said. Why would you think that i would suffer of "Stockholm Syndrome" if i don't see the talents in the same way you do?
Hope this will help you understand why you're projecting, and avoid to do it in future.

>>113520671
>Let's be real almost everyone here does
Stick to speaking for yourself

>>113520789
I meant that to mock Roli, hope you realize that. There are no idol fans here. You'll find them elsewhere on the Internet when they're not called "tranny" or "goycattle" everywhere.

>>113520710
Facts don't care about your feelings

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>>113521192
>facts don't care about your feelings
Pointing out that i have "Stockholm Syndrome" is purely based on your feelings.
There is literally nothing else you could base on for implying such thing.

>>113517576
>>113518234
I'm waiting, anon. Or are you full of shit?

>>113521288
Read >>113517576 again, those are the facts I'm talking about dumbass

Soya was more of a "comforting" experience rather than "entertaining" and i like her better

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>>113521392
>those are the facts i'm talking
And? Those are just said because you wanted to defend yourself from the accusation of "projecting".
Which they actually do confirm my statement.
i already explained here, mind you: >>113519258 >>113520710

If you think that i'm suffering from such thing, and your "facts" are just what your oshi does, then you're just projecting, you're not basing on me, you're basing on yourself and the things you watch.

>>113521192
You don't have any facts, only schizo anti speculations.

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Why don't you guys just drop her and watch someone else. It's that simple.

>>113523976
They just want to win arguments with those lesser than them
Barbiefags are just bullies, just like Shondo raised them to be

>>113523976
One of the best things about Hololive is that many holofans like several of the girls. So if their favourite chuuba doesn't happen to be streaming during any given week they can watch some other holomem instead.

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>it's birgit!
>it's liggers!
>It's phase!
>it's shondo!

>>113524414
birgit is all that combined, so yeah

>>113524037
This is what i do indeed, i follow a good amount of Holomem and i have my day full most of the time.

>>113524037
>>113524614
It's so sad that Indie fans are so emotionally manipulated they only ever watch one vtuber who sees them as nothing more than walking wallets...

>>113522154
Your projecting statement doesn't make sense though, because my oshi streams and cares about her fans, unlike yours

>>113524037
damn I feel bad for them having to settle for that low, imagine having to watch shiori and kiara because everyone else doesn't stream

>>113482593

>>113482593
Phase black corpo deflection thread