>struggling so bad in her 6 month run that she already has to teases graduation for a boost
grim

A 20 hour waiting room for that is just dumb

>>113508079
I hate phase but even I have to recognize that she's just a broken retard that should have never gone corpo in the first place

it's so over Nyamigos

>>113508103
Its looking like she is actually quitting

>>113508079
pippa nepohires, not even once

she aint graduating. this is not how phase handles them. they handle it via press release first.

also there is big company stuff coming up and they wont want her putting a dark cloud over it.

>>113508079
It's for the best. Whatever fucked her up in the first place made her a completely different person from banana cat. I wish her the best but I don't see her indie career going well either.

>>113508079
she's tired of pandering to chuds so she's going back to her pl to pander to christcucks

>>113508392
>>113507719

>>113508079
Lia and Uruka have been poached for the next Hololive gen. Lia graduating first then Uruka.

>>113508392
coping really hard here, buddy.

>>113508607
its just not how phase does business.
>yuri was with written notice first
>saya was with written notice first
>memory was with written notice first
>clara was with written notice first

also offkai is this week where is supposed to appear, there are several lives, birthdays and events coming up. her contract doesnt even expire until december/january presumably

>>113508675
What will be your cope when it is graduation?

>>113508377
t. Phasetroons

>>113508392
You actually make a good point with the press release

>>113508721
what will be your cope when you have to deal with 2 more weeks

>>113508675
This is gonna be a 'mental health' break that will let her gracefully slip away. Although the graceful part is a bit pointless given her public fundraising.

>>113508103
>teasing
Anon-sama………

Good riddance.

>>113508079
cunny model was better anyway

she is gonna go indefinite health hiatus after offkai. may even expect her to stream again as nyana until she figures out exactly what she wants to do.

streaming on your alt is not a no-no in phase, it is just nobody does it anymore.

>>113509027
lmao she'll be back to streaming on nyana the next day or probably the same day just to try and make more money.

Honestly now I wonder if she and Cyana had a conversation when she was in Puerto Rico. I hope she's okay and wish well for her whatever she decides to do.

Not a surprise whatsoever. Knew this was gunna happen ASAP just like Saya.

>>113508079

Gonna be honest, I haven't followed Nyana's account closely. Did her twitter profile always say "coming back soon"?

>Phase hires a diehard Phase Fan
>Phase fans are mentally unwell
>she crashes out in record time
dont hire fans.

>>113509110
Would be kind of sabotage-y of Cyana if that is the case. There is literally zero downside to her being in Phase, and it isn't like her brain is going to be un-fucked if she goes back to Nyana.

Counterpoint: Cyana told her that she should do one of her concerts again (with corpo assistance) and she is going to do that.

>>113509155
That's a load of bullshit. The majority of the talents after gen 1 were Phase fans, that's often why they applied.

>>113508854
>Although the graceful part is a bit pointless given her public fundraising
not that big of a deal.
a certain gen1, while on hiatus, was on her alt putting it out there about holding a fundraiser to get a new indie ip going and was set up to stream on it for a moment before the waiting room went down and she never revisited it again. likely was never gonna actually stream on it and was just a smart tactic to be heard by management and things got resolved.

another certain gen1 used to stream on her alt all the time. even missed some company collabs because she was busy streaming on said alt.

>>113509240
there is a difference between "i watched some phase vtubers" and "my nearly entire existence as a vtuber and knowledge of vtubing is mostly from phase connect"
nyana/anya was a phase fan girl in the truest sense

>>113508593
>PhaseCon was a company wide graduation present.

>>113509316
>my nearly entire existence as a vtuber and knowledge of vtubing is mostly from phase connect
What a load. She liked Phase for sure but she was a ligger through and through.

Regardless, Sleepy was (still is) a huge Phase fan and she's one of the best hires they've ever had, IMO.
I believe most of Saga were fans as well.

>>113509403
the truth doesnt change just because you dont believe it.
fangirls should not be invited into the company. the marks should not be in the ring.

>>113509145
Yes

>>113509403
>sleepy
>one of the best hires they've ever had
she hasnt done anything. like, at all. her claim to fame is being pippa's best friend.

>>113509511
Hey, not true. She also has fuckable fat tits courtesy of Ayamy.

>>113508079
Should have recast the model when they were given the opportunity and no one would have blamed them for it

>>113509486

In that case, assuming it is still bad news, this seems like more of a hiatus type announcement than a graduation thing, given the evidence others have posted regarding official statements etc.

>>113509511
>she hasnt done anything. like, at all.
What the fuck does that even mean?
She streams, the streams are good, she is very consistent, has a pretty loyal fanbase, and gets along with literally everyone in the company. Great hire along with the rest of her gen.

Anyas top 3 Phase moments so far
>missing debut
>missing phasecon
>graduation (bait?) waiting room

>>113509637
>>missing debut
Wait wtf? How is that even possible?

>>113509637
Hey hey hey, she had a pretty good donothon too

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>>113508079
fine martyrs whom the devil tricked into mystifications to a damned death *sadistic laughter*

>>113508079
no but anya is a black cat

>>113509679
why the hell was she doing a donothon?
what did she need funded she hasn't even started her career yet

>>113508079
I like Anya's design but not the model itself. Her and Saba's model have this stupid look that I can only describe as "child beauty pageant contestant"

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ok, who was it, i know is /here/

I feel like I failed her.

>>113508392
>she aint graduating. this is not how phase handles them. they handle it via press release first.
The stream isn't happening until tomorrow, they'll put out a post before it goes live

>>113509637
>just watching anime on stream

>>113509966
Anime reactions are based she should have just done those like Sora Anime does or something

Or honestly she should have gone full-bore into the Christ-tuber angle. It's a niche, but at least it's something she is actually passionate about.

>>113508675
>also offkai is this week where is supposed to appear
wasn't she supposed to appear at Phasecon too?, if she is leaving now, then gg, gl next time, if she is gonna drag this for a hiatus, then what a massive waste of everyone time, Tenma was right, flavr, not even once, let that bad joke die with anya

she is gonna be in for a rude awakening when she goes back to indie and realizes she can no longer collab with Phase, no longer collab with Filian, Bao's name is worthless

>>113510062
if this is legitimately due to a spine/brain infection, i would hope fishman would take pity on her. it's maybe not exactly her fault if she can't keep up with corporate obligations and stuff

>>113508675
>her contract doesnt even expire
you seem to be forgetting that women are retarded and dont care about those kinds of things

>>113510062
so long as she is leaving on good terms, i seriously doubt phase would block any collabs with her.
if she wants out, that means phase has agreed to let her out of her contract early which means they are also probably relieved to end the relationship.

Sakana fights very hard to retain girls he believes in.

>>113509576
He's a retarded dramafag who has Pippa as his baseline for a "good" vtuber, so anybody who isn't constantly showing up on his Twitter timeline or in /pcg/ for mouthing off about dumb shit all the time is boring to him.

She would have had a contract so I wonder if Phase decided to end it first or she negotiated to graduate earlier than her contract length

>>113510389
I think she could be affiliate material IF the anya character had any meaning at all. i think she genuinely had more phase connect moments as nyana than she did as anya.

>>113509906

I wonder if we'll get some info during Phase Weekly. Give us some good news or at least ease our worries Dizzy, please...

the whole thing with her has been iffy from the start. It's like Sakana knew he shouldnt have hired her, but he kept getting talked into it.

like they flat out removed her ass from the gen debut song and most of the gen debut merch likely because they didnt know if she was ever coming back. then she decides to go on vacation over the biggest event. now we are here.

>>113510389
its been a year since her gen debuted

>>113510469
Well she was completely MIA during her gen's debut

I genuinely think she would have been a decent talent if she didn't get the brain damage but that kind of ruined her desu. Kind of breaks my heart.

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>>113509689
sad to hear that Phase lost their best talent

>>113508079
Phasebros I can't believe we're the other kind of black company now too

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>>113509891

>>113510417
You'll get your 10 minutes of merch shilling and 20 minutes of terrible clips like every week

>>113508079
Her situation is kind of weird. Like half her subs didn't follow her over. She'd probably get a big bump from a colab with Pippa, her audience would probably recognize her voice, but I'm not sure if they have? (Apart from playing palworld together literally today, but I'd of tried to do it like day 1?) Big bummer Filian's still on hiatus or retired or whatever, too.

>>113510469
I remember she was oddly difficult when she graduated as Nyana. Like she kept streaming for 2 months on members streams eventhough Phase wanted her not to so she could focus on debut but she did what she wanted anyway

>>113510489
Not quite a year yet, it's been 8 months. However it has been EXACTLY 6 months since Anya debuted (Jan 17, 2026) which is very strange coincidence for today's "announcement" and makes me think she was under some sort of probationary period where she had to make a decision at the end of.

>>113510669
>Like half her subs didn't follow her over
dead subs. most vtubers subs are 90% dead subs. its life.
>She'd probably get a big bump from a colab with Pippa
phase is already full of "pippa adjacents"
phase needs girls who can be their own thing with their own talents. they would rather have a 200 ccv fresh energy than a 1000 ccv talent who is just a dumping ground for pippa fans when she is off

the thing is anya maybe doesn't have anything fresh to offer

>>113510160
>corporate obligations
there are no fucking corporate obligations in phase, she can afk her channel for literally infinite duration, hina is already doing this. anya is just a retard

>>113510417
Phase weekly has been shit since dizzy took it over.

>>113510718
or the announcement itself could be "6 month anniversary" bait and switch to a good thing

>>113510752
people who say this type of shit have never watched her

>>113510746
>there are no fucking corporate obligations in phase
there are if you have ambition
nyana had ambition back then. anya? none. what is the going rate for a new girl who has the most expensive model mama of her gen, who misses debut, and skips the biggest company event ever because she needs to go on vacation?

she has proven to be unreliable and a flake. it says a lot about where anya stands in phase that she asked to go on vacation and she had such little importance to the event that they said "have fun"

>>113510826
>skips the biggest company event ever because she needs to go on vacation?
Really? That's kind of fucked up.
I feel like that may have been the deciding point where they realized she doesn't give a shit about Phase.

>>113508079
I enjoy dunking on phase connect's flaws and shortcomings and I think their fanbase is an absolute cancer fostered and encouraged by multiple of their girls, but from what I've seen, all of this situation was mostly on Anya

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>>113510748
Dizzy is what makes Phase Weekly great. It's an additional Dizzy stream

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>>113510669
>collab with Pippa
That happened earlier today.

>>113510669
>Like half her subs didn't follow her over
any never had more than 2 views on her own, people only watched her when she was leeching off of others.

>>113509905
She failed you

>>113510962
Sometimes even the best support systems can't stop a schizo from surrendering to their demons

>>113508079
Posts you will never see on BVTM's profile

>>113508079
>>113511094
bitch looks like saba. adios.

>>113510903
They had to cancel her meet and greet. I don't know if they even tried to brainstorm a way for her to still do it while on vacation but it was cancelled 3 weeks before

>>113511796
>She looks like Saba

Well no shit Sherlock she literally has the same artist. Some of ya'll can't do basic as fuck research and it shows.

>ya'll

>>113510718
This is the same company that has had a talent on hiatus for 2 years, with only a few appearances in that period and with no update about WTF is going on with her, or if shes coming back.

Sakana doesn't give a shit, they don't have some probationary period bullshit.

Ok Europoor.

>>113511925
i only do research on girls that i care about

>>113512006
Then why the fuck are you here, opining on something you know fuck all about nigger?

>>113508675
You can always graduate before your contract ends, there might be some financial penalties but most companies just waive them except shithouses like WACTOR and V&U

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>>113508079
Common Nyana L.

>>113508079
will her announcement get a pinned thread?

>>113509659
Didn't debut along with her gen, according to members of her past life (soon to be current again), discord server she was vagueposting weird shit while she was in limbo between lives. Then debuted months later but by then i wasn't paying attention to developments. You can probably get a better picture looking up on youtube.

>>113508079
I do not like the model but which is similar to her last nyana model which I also did not like.

>>113512324
>discord server she was vagueposting weird shit
btw none of her old groomers claims have 0 proof. people are saying some wild shit about her but somehow there's no proof for any of it.

>>113510752
>"hello~nya my nyabyssians, we finally hit 6-months of being together, onto meowre amazing adventures"
Absolutely sounds like her

>>113512594
>none have 0 proof
kek

>>113512669
yeah its crazy, i think her groomers are posting that shit just to pity bait for her, idk

>>113508079
Nyana is a grifting retarded whore who should have never been in Phase.

>>113512757
but enough about clara

>>113513468
Clara was many things but not a grifter

>>113508593
>Larp so bad that anon chose the one girl that literally said (in the past 2 months) "would I graduate now? Fuck NO no fucking way" *laughs*

>>113511975
the problem with your fake concern is that all of her old fans know why she had to stop and can understand the choice themselves. That is unless you have a sheltered life.

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trouble in phase?

>>113512349
try again in English

>>113508079
Genuinely what the fuck was her problem anyway?
Why did she have some random mental breakdown for no reason that delayed her debut?
Why did she debut only to KWAB out after a few months anyway?

>>113508079
Is her rigger the same as Saba too? If it is, then the 1-2 combo or Saba artist + rigger probably cost Phase a decent chunk of money.

>>113514418
The rigger is different, only the artist is the same.

>>113514418
No. Saba's rigger is Cillia (Laimu, Doki, Mint, Lucy Pyre and others), Anya's is Spiral_hero

>>113514467
>>113514477
I see, thx.

>>113511094
Huh, Phase has a temu Polka?

>>113510748
The good clippers left.

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Please giv moni for my new debut.
thanks.

>>113514601
It's surely been fully funded by now, right?

>>113514595
They didn't "left", most of the good clippers were officially hired as editors.

>>113514616
it will be one she graduates

>>113514616
Imagine if she advertised her ko-fi during her graduation announcement

>>113514695
I'd find it very funny, but it would probably do her way more harm than good and I don't think she's that stupid to try and pull such a stunt

>>113514624
What does "officially" mean in this context? Are there unofficial Phase video editors?

>>113508079
When exactly did she put this up? Do you think she could be overreacting to complaints about her not interacting enough in the collab?

>>113514837
Fanmade clips aren't official, but if Phase will pay for editing they are.

>>113514342
What is this guy referring to?

>>113514935
Lia's birthday or something

>>113514935
Gumi thinking the world revolves around a whore

>>113514342
Lumi's 5 years anniversary. Also I think she's releasing an album

>>113514578
Cowgirl and the light blue girl aren't Phase talents they are indies.

>>113514935
It's Lumi's 5 year anniversary, she's gonna release some album and debut a new model or outfit.
It's all gonna get overshadowed by the graduation announcement.

>>113514935
Two talents are having some big announcements Kaneko Lumi is releasing an completely new album and (Ashe)Lia(Rinkou) is having a single and, I think???, a concert named "World of Lia".

>>113508079
There's no need to make such a long waiting room for a graduation announcement everyone knows is coming

>>113514941
>>113514958
>>113514967
>>113514991
>>113515011
So how is that Anya's fault? She would've had to plan this stream with staff to coincide with them making an announcement on Twitter, which means they're the ones who greenlit it happening today despite everything else going on.

>>113515062
She betrayed the phase family and therefore the phasefags turned on her

>>113515062
lol, I wonder if management actually planned it this way intentionally, to overshadow Anya's announcement with other good events.

>>113514991
>overshadowed
How? For the majority, the mexican banana never really arrived at Phase. I doubt you can find 15 people that actually care about her hiatus/graduation/sololive with with Hasan Piker on the guitar/world cup prediction market announcement tomorrow

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>shows up late
>does nothing
>leaves
>this is somehow supposed to be a big shock or a big deal

>>113508079
Might be that Anya just baiting. It has happened before with Bae and Remiu after the other graduations. If not it's the Gura killer curse coming around again. The curse is a jealous fucker that doesn't like people that remind it of the Fish.

>>113515334
if it was the gura killer curse it'd hit nitya first

>>113514467
They gave her the saba artist?! They spoiled her!

>>113515334
>Might be that Anya just baiting
That's funny, when Nyana posted the announcement for her (indie) graduation stream last year, some people thought that she was just baiting

>>113515350
She set up to be the "superstar" of the gen, which makes her backstabbing and early quit all the more funny

>>113515329
SHE HAS TARNISHED THE PHASE CONNECT BRAND AND NEEDS TO BE BEHEADED IN THE STREET NOW!!!!!

>>113514342
>biggest days of her career
nigga nobody cares about shitty space outfit #8 and another karaoke album
get over yourself

>>113508079
this girl sabotaging her own career with her own antic
black corpo or not phase has no fault in this

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>>113515846
>this girl sabotaging her own career with her own antic

>>113515846
Could be both. She was always a diva and got nepo hired in without all the usual trials.

if she's baiting that's actually kind of funny, maybe i will give her a chance

>>113515846
phaseethe

I hope Lumi graduates because Anya sabotaged her by graduating over her album release.

>>113514968
>light blue
That's green

is this the demon hort girl??

>>113514342
Why are Gumis so soft? This is very poor form. as if Lumi has not always just streamed right over huge company events all the fucking time and made other peoples moments all about her by being obnoxiously over the top.
There are 40 talents in the company there is always gonna be stuff going on get over it.

>>113515972
Yes

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seems like people are jumping the gun here and being nasty for no reason. if other anons are correct there are health issues at play. I hope she ok and things work out.
If it is bait, that's whatever t is a common play from the vtuber playbook. I remember Dizzy doing it at about 6 months in and the announcement was she got her braces removed iirc. I remember Kiara doing the same thing years down the road but it was her 1000th channel stream. Lumi f has done it with April Fools graduation bait. etc.

If it is real, just hope whatever is troubling her gets better and she can land on her feet back as Nyana. am sorry it didn't work out for her in Phase she could have been a standout (still can be it's not too late. there have been a few girls in Phase who started out wrong and figured it out to become success stories).

>>113516137
>seems like people are jumping the gun here and being nasty for no reason
Welcome to the Phase fanbase

>>113516137
i agree, she hasn't really done anything deserving of total hatred yet, so i hope she figures things out for herself

>>113516221
that's not the phase fanbase. that's a bunch of dramaniggers and discord troons stirring shit for no actual reason

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>>113508079
You're mentally ill if you get heated about this. People change their minds, and that's okay. Hopefully she finds the right path for herself whether that's staying, or leaving.

>>113516221
I see this in # all the time too. It's just standard brownoid behavior in their war for izzat.

>>113516328
You cant call people browns while admitting you are a # enjoyer

>>113508079
>is allowed to leave
>black company
IQ like a football fan

>>113516379
I'm not. I rarely poke my head in there to see why other threads are so shit, and usually there's a correlation.

>>113512324
It wasn't particularly vague, she was pretty explicit that she was being chased by literal demons and asked people to pray for her.

>>113516277
>that's not the phase fanbase.
>that's a bunch of dramaniggers and discord troons stirring shit for no actual reason
Who's gonna tell him?

>>113516277
Thats exactly a Phasenegros behaviour

>>113516319
It doesn't say graduation it says announcement

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Biggest phaseshill is mad

>>113516562
If she's baiting it's honestly way worse

>>113516562
The fact that BVTM shits on her means shes out

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>>113515977
you now remember the time lumi streamed over the biggest concert phase ever had with mint in nyc, then ended exactly when it ended and afterwards tweeted
>we did it!
taking credit for it

>>113516643
KWAB

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>>113516643
based evil woman

Christfags: not even once

I hope she will be fine.
Things do not always work out, and there is nothing wrong with admiting defeat and stepping out.
Hopefully the rumors about her unfixable brain damage are just that.

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>>113516574
>nepohired
does he even know what company he is talking about?

>>113516643
Nobody likes mint

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>>113516277
>that's not the phase fanbase. that's a bunch of dramaniggers and discord troons

>>113516797
mint is delicious wtf

imagine brushing your teeth with unflavored arm n hammer toothpaste instead of mint

>>113510729
>phase needs girls who can be their own thing with their own talents
saga was a really good gen for this outside of anya tbf
so was euphoria but saga is definitely more marketable, any corpo would be lucky to have nitty or mina

>>113516403
>is allowed to leave
>black company
>IQ like a football fan
Damn nigga I didn't know the threshold for being a black company was engaging in slavery. Guess vshojo and nijisanji did nothing wrong.

>>113516760
>Runie
>fomer NexStage
wow, do you even put that on your resume?

If she is leaving, no wonder why sakana only feels comfortable with origins and alias. he knows they are gonna be there and are not gonna let his company down.
every gen that came after them has some spoiled girls who came in with silver spoons shoved up their butts, all the advantages in the world, and took it all for granted.

>>113517985
Origins, aside from the JPs who were constantly sidelined until very recently, is one of the most spoiled gens in vtubing. Even Pippa is self-aware enough to admit that she doesn't deserve the benefits the company keeps showering her with considering the total lack of effort she puts in.

>>113514968
Lulu is not far from phasing in, Cyana is anya friend.

Puerto Rican Catholicism broke this girl. Now her teeth are haunted and she needs to pull them all out and get an exorcism

>>113518259
>is one of the most spoiled gens in vtubing
>had no built in fanbase
>had no managers
>had no staff to help them
>had barebones debuts
>the last gen to get an original song
>members of that gen still dont have even 1 original song
>built a foundation so strong that 30+ other vtubers could join it with a nice safety net
it's called they get what is coming to them because they had nothing to start

warped world where vtubers who debuted to 400 people, started with 40 regular viewers and had to scrape for everything are spoiled. meanwhile every girl who came in after them debuted to anywhere between 1500-5000, some of them have never known a day with less than 200 regular viewers, fully animated original songs/covers on debut, state of the art rigging and some of the most expensive mamas in vtubing

>pippa
what she means is that she doesnt feel like she needs to be doing 3d stuff because she does not like it and should go to someone who likes that stuff. and phase has listened she is pretty much only in gen related stuff or company mandated 3d stuff.

>>113508079
Not hating here, but she has been extremely demotivated.

If I had to speculate, she must have expected big numbers from the start, and got depressed once she saw that she couldn't make it past 300 on a regular basis, which is kind of funny when half the talents in Phase who aren't Pippa, average no more than 500 ppl on stream.

Not being able to set up a concert where she could invite a bunch of indies without permission from the Corp could also be a huge factor.

That last collab was a disaster.

She was quiet most of the time, and was getting out done by a clipper who's only posted 3 videos in a year. Didn't even bother to respond to super chats.

The boost she got before retiring as an indie must have given her the wrong impression, but what annoys me the most is that she got an opportunity and made the person who recommended her look bad by not even giving 50% of the effort she put as an indie by working there.

Like, imagine signing a contract without reading it, being shocked that you can't collab with anyone you want without getting approval, having part of your check being cut to the Corp, being told that you have to stream within specifics time slots to allow other talents their own time, and pretending like you're getting raped by demons to try and get out of the contractual obligations.

I might actually become a hater now.

how much of the frame chat is known phase fans vs tourists? it's kind of breahtaking how shameless they are being

>>113518741
>If I had to speculate, she must have expected big numbers from the start, and got depressed once she saw that she couldn't make it past 300 on a regular basis, which is kind of funny when half the talents in Phase who aren't Pippa, average no more than 500 ppl on stream.
and my answer to that would 2 words:
>so what?
the point of being in an established corpo is that your "size" is not really the be all end all. i would imagine that is a part of the appeal that you can do your own thing and not really have to feel the pressure because their are over 30 talents contributing
built in raid box if you want it
you get guaranteed merch for every holiday, anniversary and birthday.
things are not really gatekept by numbers in phase anymore. if you want new outfits? you can get them regardless of your size.
you want music support? you can get it.
you want sponsor outreach? hell they got remi who is small linked up with blue archive.

be more than a number.

>>113518814
The guy saying that's important to support her "no matter what" and then he's a grey cracked me up

>>113508203
Not hate, but she needs to be heavily medicated. She was always to fragile for this world.

>>113518836
Plenty of big corpo tubers still whine about numbers all the time regardless, even in Holo. They literally have milestones and targets for sub growth. No idea how Sakana manages to get his under-performing talents sponsorships, but usually size always matters.

>>113518741
>Not being able to set up a concert where she could invite a bunch of indies without permission from the Corp could also be a huge factor.
you are aware this year alone tenma and rie have organized mass vtuber events that even included nijien (the alleged most toxic brand, and the event went fine), right? they have let their girls play in sponsored indie events (lumi, lia and ember doing dokibirds apex; remi & saya her wrestling event) and even invited indies to be in their own corpo sponsorship last month with shonod, onigiri etc joining
>being shocked that you can't collab with anyone you want without getting approval
who is she being kept from collabing? phase doesn't care so long as it is not kibawoo, and even then enough time has passed that they probably would not care
>being told that you have to stream within specifics time slots to allow other talents their own time
this is not a thing, phase does not give a shit. doesn't she stream in peak overlap hours with the most competition as it is?

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>>113518741
>If I had to speculate, she must have expected big numbers from the start, and got depressed once she saw that she couldn't make it past 300 on a regular basis, which is kind of funny when half the talents in Phase who aren't Pippa, average no more than 500 ppl on stream.
It's fucking hilarious. Some retards actually believe the shit that gets posted here that Phase can now match hololive. Meanwhile in reality they're average is significantly lower than HoloID. They don't get anywhere near holoEN. Their top member pippa even gets completely destroyed by Kaela.
And now some people might have joined phase based on some bullshit lies phasefags post on here and twitter.

>>113518400
>had no built in fanbase
Technically true, but Phase debuted in a small corpo scene that was very close knit and was basically one big fanbase, so they benefited massively from the existing fanbases of other corpos like Tsunderia and Prism who came before them.
>had no managers
>had no staff to help them
Phase had a large number of staff for a small corpo at the time.
>had barebones debuts
Normal debuts back then.
>the last gen to get an original song
>members of that gen still don't have even 1 original song
The gen isn't very musically inclined at all compared to later ones, at least not in ways that are conducive to vocal songs.
>built a foundation so strong that 30+ other vtubers could join it with a nice safety net
The foundation was unstable as fuck until Alias arrived and the company finally started finding its footing a bit. The fact is that Origins didn't actually do much of anything except be there on day one, and most of the actual work was put in by talents who came later, and if it had only been Origin (plus Invaders) for much longer than it was the company probably wouldn't have made it.
>it's called they get what is coming to them because they had nothing to start
By the standards of the time they had plenty of advantages, certainly more than many other small corpos, not least of which being Sakana actually having a ton of money, business experience and pre-existing connections instead of being a clueless newbie. The idea that they were ever impoverished underdogs is absurd.

>>113515977
Because Lumi had always had atrocious number of views. Her chill relaxing streams are some the best the Phase can offer, and much of it is actually because she has so few viewers, allowing her to properly connect with those watching her streams and interact. But regardless of have comfy her streams are, Lumi probably just manages to barely break even.

>>113519001
That's hololive. Phase is different and works with talents if they have goals. The key to make it and be successful in that corpo is to figure out what you want out of Phase Connect.
some girls want the most numbers, and they can go right ahead and feast & stress about them all they want. Be a slave to them all they want.
other girls want music or to be 3d idols, and that is their focus
some want the most money, and they can do what they can to get that.
some want collabs and projects and sponsors and cons, so they can do those until they are fulfilled.
some just want to stream and play vidya all day.

All I am saying is you do not have to have pure giga numbers in Phase if you want to have nice things. They will work with you to make it happen.

again: be more than a number.

>>113519059
I like that she reads and replies mostly to verified chat celebs

>>113514601
>Only at 3%
Grim

>>113513951
The problem with your fake concern about me, is that you think I really care whats going on with her, and its more a point that Phase Connect is extremely lenient about hiatuses, and its highly unlikely he gave a fuck about her late debut, or infrequent streaming.

>>113519026
Ok, no one cares faggot, and no one here is saying that. Go back to your blacked or horsefucking Mori porn.

>>113518741
>She was quiet most of the time
Just like all of her streams, it's like watching a zombie.

>>113518741
>If I had to speculate, she must have expected big numbers from the start, and got depressed once she saw that she couldn't make it past 300 on a regular basis
Joining any growing corpo seems to give a bad impression to certain people, it just makes them think that they're entitled to free success and that's just not the case. Even if you don't have big viewers you can still have plenty of whales, but you still need to put in plenty of effort.
Also it's probably not a good idea for her to make Twitch her main platform when she's part of a Youtube-first platform. Especially with how dogshit Twitch is for archiving VODs.

Did anyone actually expect a latinx hire to have work ethic instead of asking for gibs eternally?

>>113519104
>Phase is different
This is the company that infamously tried to lock 3D behind 100k subs (except for Uruka who "mysteriously" jumped the queue), as stated by multiple talents. Phase is just as number-focused as any other corpo and there's precedent for them incentivizing hitting targets by intentionally withholding support, including sponsorships.

>>113519462
>This is the company that infamously tried to lock 3D behind 100k subs
old news. it's not 2024 anymore.

remi, erina, airi, jelly, dizzy, ember, runie all got full 3d models before 100k.
im not saying they don't care about numbers, i ma just saying it is not the be all end all motivating factor.

the most important factor for any talent is speaking up for yourself and advocating for your interests. if you are gonna sit there and wait for things to happen for you, you will keep waiting.

>>113519456
One of pillars of the corpo is a latina hire, though

>>113519462
So funny how much blatant favoritism there's inside phase but no one cares, euphoria has 1 new outfit (runie) after almost 3 years and talents like jelly and shiina have probably over 5.

>>113519516
>remi, erina, airi, jelly, dizzy, ember, runie all got full 3d models before 100k
Panko...

>>113519516
Runie does not have an official 3D model. The VLive model is just that. Don't expect to see it anywhere else.

>>113509155
she didnt seem that crazy before the debut, she streamed fine on her pl, but clearly she couldnt take the extra pressure

>>113519557
it is as nice of a 3d model as there is in the company what are you talking about

>>113519534
have you ever considered that some talents dont care about outfits?
just like some dont care about music or 3d or sponsors or whatever

>>113519516
>the most important factor for any talent is speaking up for yourself and advocating for your interests. if you are gonna sit there and wait for things to happen for you, you will keep waiting.
Tell that to Hime when she was pushing for her 3D

>>113519807
>got 3d
>did sponsorship concert with it
>had the 2nd 3d debut in the company
yes?

>>113519778
It was just for that one special collab event.
She doesn't have access to it, can't use it for her own streams and as far as I understand, it also can't be used for other Phase concerts. I don't see how it should count.

The hype around her indie graduation/hiatus was absolutely insane, I had never heard of her before that few weeks leading up to it but there were threads all about her despite her being a very low 3view (maybe 2view before that?). I know she did concerts featuring other vtubers but it felt like a holo talent was graduating there were so many threads about it.

>>113520139
She was 2 view when she wasn't leeching

>>113520207
>Nyana redebuting in a post-Filian world
I'm curious

>>113520207
Was she leeching the entire time then? I'm not even trying to start shit, but its the only way I can see how Anya went from someone who apparently was a big enough deal with her indie concerts to someone who had about 130-ish views on Twitch before this announcement. That's an extremely low number by Phase standards.

>>113519945
It should count because she got a big 3D opportunity despite not being the biggest number talent, which defies the logic that things like that are locked away behind numbers.

and she deserved that opportunity, too. Runie and Lia gave up their Thanksgivings away from their families to travel across the world do that concert. They put the work in and sacrificed and worked a major holiday to do it.

>>113520522
How are you having this much trouble understanding the differences between official and unofficial 3D?

I've only seen one of her streams when I got raided into her and all she was doing was silently watching an anime.

>>113520692
How are you struggling to understand that good shit in Phase is not always gatekept behind numbers?

>>113519945
It is official 3D model you retard.

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>>113520692
this you?

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>>113518741
I also thought that she's probably unhappy with her viewers but even looking just at twitch doesn't look that bad. She didn't use to regularly stream on yt

>>113519398
that's what I noticed the most. I thought it was just her nerves in her first collab with saga but she's a lot more timid compared to a year ago

>>113508079
She did her best after missing her debut, and now she's going to do her best by giving up.
Don't forget to give money to her ko-fi, she really needs it guys

KANEKO LUMI IS GRADUATING AFTER 5 YEARS!! GET IN THERE!!

>>113508079
New Crack theory:

Filian was always meant to use this avatar. Nyanna was just a placeholder. When she graduates, NYanna abyss is going to go into a coma, and then wake up with a nmew voice, remember who she really is... Filian.

>>113521482
Filian secured her models IP, which is the reason she keeps posting those billboards in Japan even though her audience isn't there.

Nyanna is the same model she used to have but with different colors.

>>113518741
>numberfag assumes everything is about his favorite hobby of watching numbers
Yeah it clearly has nothing to do with her autism attack before graduation, completely fucked up health, or low effort streams.
Phase already lost a sad girl who was so sad she couldn't be fixed. This is probably going to be another case of that. No point in hoping for the best, it's either a graduation or extended hiatus to take care of her health.

>>113520744
You will never see it being used again, ESL-chama. I don't know to what extend Phase even owns the model.

>>113520401
Crelly already took Filians place and unlike Filian who'd collab equally with 2-4 views, Crelly is 4view crew only. So all those smaller vtubers whod have benefitted from Filian are perma locked out now

>>113522416
>You will never see it being used again
she used it again since then

>>113522510
crelly doesnt even have a playbutton ffs she is a complete nobody compared to filian.

gonna laugh so hard at the holokeks itt when it turns out to be a nothingburger and shes just taking a break or some shit

>>113522582
well yeah all numberfags are holofags and they are feeling shit because of the hiatus they did on CC. Letting their schizos affect their girls is a big failure.

>>113522582
I'm neither a holofan nor a phasefan, but if this is something minor and she's just baiting this is way worse than just graduating

>>113518998
and yet other sickly chuubas like wime or mouse still get to stream regularly

>>113522738
>he still believes the grift

I don't care if her brain is fucked due to needles, if she hears demons coming to get her or if the corpo requirements overwhelm her, the reality is most phase and vtuber fans tend to forgive everything these women do and act like they are silly kids who can't do wrong and can't live by themselves when most of them are well into their 20s or 30s. In any other type of real job, if you are so unreliable and can't do shit to fulfill your basic tasks you would get the boot immediately. I know it will fall on deaf ears but please stop pampering this type of people, it doesn't benefit the vtuber world in any way.

>>113522582
well I hope it teaches Anya, or any vtuber, to graduation bait. she will have taken a beating for nothing.

>>113508079
>Is phase connect a black company?
Not in the slightest, but you do have to be a functional human being.

>>113508313
Explain Sleepy and Mari. They're both top tier.

>>113522750
anon the space is full of shut ins and nerds with poor health (something that is not weird considering the amount of bad habits here) what kind of grift is you saying that? (I don't really give a fuck abotu that whore of moude tho) not being able to do fucking streaming is just being lazy afk

>>113522582
Yeah, the changing her PL twitter header to "Coming back soon…" and creating a crowdfunding drive for "New Live2D model - Hi this is a goal to be able to debut once again!" within the last week is all JUST a coincidence.

>>113523084
We never know, she's stuck at 3% for her new model, she might crawl back to phase seeing she's as popular outside as she was inside the company now kek

>>113522582
If she's already taking a break despite not really making it to Phase Con, that's going to stunt her growth even more than it already is. She may as well go back to being indie since she already has connections, she probably can still Collab with the Phase girls like Saya could with Euphoria's anniversary IIRC, and it's difficult to tell what exactly her and Phase are getting out of this partnership.

>>113523188
you worry too much about "muh growth"
streaming for the sake of streaming when your head isn't in the game is not great.

there are girls in phase who struggled like her in their first years, but they stuck with it and figured it out to have successful careers.

>>113523154
There's no way the corp allows her to just take a break to try and grow her PL.

She's out.

It's the ghost of the success she got from telling everyone she was graduating in advance on her PL what haunts her.

>>113523263
In any other case you might be right, even girls in other corpos tend to struggle before they find that sweet spot. But I'm not betting hard on Anya being one of those girls, she's throwing up too many red flags in a short span of time and AFAIK she didn't have to deal with a mountain of groomers that someone like Saya did in her PL which probably killed her streaming motivations.

>>113520522
>big 3D opportunity
PFFFFFFFT

>>113523696
being paid by another company to travel to japan, get a new 3d outfit, record full mocap and do a 3d concert for a sponsor is a big deal
you have girls holding donothons just to fund their own 3d debuts/models or have to use warudo, and runie got to be paid to do it in that instance

>>113523800 (me)
and to that point again, she and lia gave up their thanksgivings with their families and worked on a major holiday to record that concert.
to tie it back into the thread, anya didnt even want to give up a vacation so she could be with her company at phasecon

>>113508079
I thought it was a chinese company

>>113523084
>changing twitter header
Thank god the average user does not leave this site to check the 50 twitter archival tools when that change happened

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>opportunity of a lifetime

Runie had worse numbers her first year. Stop joining and taking up a spot when there's people that will put in effort and stick with it. Some talented poor 2view got fucked over.

The real answer is she's joining Filian's new org

>>113524119
no one in the company has had as bad numbers as anya. only recently she has gained few viewers thanks to just watching whole anime episodes on stream.

>filians been gone so long that vtubers have debuted and graduated in that timespan

>>113524119
You were never getting in lol

which Phase girls has Anya even had meaningful collabs with since debuting?
does Lumi even know who she is?

>>113524337
not even her genmates like her

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>>113522582
anya is gonna get axed like that whore of clara, a pity sakana spent so much and that model is gonna go to waste

>>113522582
>gonna laugh so hard at the holokeks itt when it turns out to be a nothingburger and shes just taking a break or some shit
That would be some good trolling for a vtuber but there are several indications it will be a graduation announcement. There were too many signs that Anya didn't want to join Phase Connect and was attempting to back out but they actually forced her to debut.

>>113510551
>Phase lost their best talent
Jelly didn't leave

>>113524533
>good trolling
>good
Would it, though?

>>113518741
Are you fucking RETARD?
She has actual unironic BRAIN DAMAGE
She lacks clear thinking. Permanently.
Its why she debuted late.
Shes not the same person she was before.

>>113524162
Are you looking at EN side only? I think most of the JPs stream to 30-80 viewers

Literally no one in phase has retweeted or interacted with her announcement tweet lmao

>>113524935
almost as if she is not graduating and she is taking a beating for no reason

>>113525361
She is graduating and everyone in the company hates her ass.

>>113525361
>for no reason
If she's not graduating, she's baiting it, so there's even more of a reason. She's not so stupid as to not know what a giant "announcement" on white background implies, expecially without any reassurance in the title, description, or tweet that it's a good announcement

>>113523082
There's grifters who are "shut in and sickly" and then there are actual crazy retards who shouldn't even be online and Nyana falls into the latter.

>>113525520
She started begging money for a new model too, what a great bait that would be

did she do a donothon as anya?

>>113525625
Yes. A Subathon, but same shit

>>113525692
what for?
was she funding something in particular? phase has not really done donothons in recent years.

>>113525625
Of course, had 50k goal made probably 5k.

>>113525732
I don't know, I haven't watched. But it's there in her YT VODs

>>113525361
deserved for acting like a retard

>>113525552
>grifters
Quit projecting and misusing words holy shit.

gonna laugh when she announces she is hosting a concert or soemthing and you bums all convinced yourself she was graduating

>>113525737
>50k donogoal
>barely streamed before
That's insane.

>>113524544
I'm not biting this bait lol

>>113524692
getting meningintis from botched acupuncture is as tragic as is funny

>>113526940
0 proof this is true btw

>>113527012
then what happened to her

>>113527099
she's always been retarded and people who say otherwise never watched her

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>>113508079
Phasebros... they're laughing with us...

>>113527186
i couldnt care less i am watching muyu

It'd be really weird if it were a positive announcement considering Dizzy completely ignored it on Phase Weekly today

its probably a health hiatus after offkai or her celebrating her 6 month anni

>actual graduation
>graduation baiting
What would be worse?

>>113527395
actual graduation is good news.

shes graduating
rip

>>113527840
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO

>>113526292
>gonna laugh when she announces she is hosting a concert or soemthing and you bums all convinced yourself she was graduating
So?

why the fuck did she even join
women are fucking retarded

>>113526292
Are you laughing yet, anon?

>>113528091
unironically she thought she would have more numbers. i am not kidding.

>>113508079
Phase Connect got their first "disagreements with management" graduation. Fishman really should have let her back out from the Anya debut and he could have easily given her model to someone else. I expect incompetent management decisions from Nijisanji and Hololive but it's so dumb to force a talent debut in a small vtuber corpo.

>>113528153
She might have if she didn't schzo out and ruin her debut.

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>>113508392
OH NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>113528194
she probably thought she'd get more numbers by doing a solo debut.

>>113528173
She has been streaming anime on twitch for past 2 weeks, do you really think management would've stopped her from doing anything she wanted?