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https://x.com/FWMCCheer/status/2078345196757201385Wait did the ad actually hit the goal? If so that's pretty impressive.
If what Kiara said is true and the management is using membership numbers as a metric for success then FWMC don't seem to be doing too well. They are far surpassed by Biboo and on par with Shiori, no wonder Biboo keeps getting more opportunities than them.
>>113520770If the focus was that much on memberships FWMC would do more for it, they aren't dumb. They would definitely release more wallpapers and do more ASMR
>>113520735No he just put it on his family's credit card and prayed
>>113520770it was raora, unless kiara said it toois that relying on membership milestone chats or something? doesn't seem reliable
>>113520735No it's still like 38% funded, look at the tracker in the replies. He just booked and paid for it because the deadline for the sd to start next week is here.
Don't forget to cum for fluffy today too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxaIDhaLWE8
>>113520770Weird that they would use people who aren't doing well to promote what they expect to be their big cash cow to recover from HoloEarth flopping.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU9MEpQA-A0
>>113521184People judging "popularity" on a day-to-day basis just because of x most recent concert or sponsorship are retarded anyway. It's not like they can always put all holos in, they have schedules of their own too and often holos want to rotate their guests from the year before.
>>113521184They know merch is dying or dead for EN so getting people on subscriptions is the way. It's what sponsors look like in negotiations which is where holoEN is going to get most of its funding now and in the future.
>>113521219Even for the talents themselves. If not being the number one earner in the company means you get no opportunities because everyone wants to use the biggest cash cow to sell shit talents would quit much more frequently. You have to give everyone opportunities.Of course EN talents who live in Japan are generally overrepresented for obvious reasons, but yeah of course neither FWMC or Biboo will just do every single thing.
>>113520560I just started playing Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and picked Pikachu as my partner. Since Mococo's favorite Pokemon is Alolan Raichu, I figured I'd name it after her.And man, the game's a lot funnier this way. The partner Pokemon's reactions are all so Mococo.
>>113520770>994 giftsI can easily toss 1k gifts with ars
>>113520560Two boys and a girl...
>>113521650un un
>>113521064Who is this cutie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LolPZpPh_kE
>>113521650They should play this game.
>>113520770>Biboo beats them at every metricNo... she's going to get a sololive before them...
>>113520770this seems like bullshit but post it for the rest of EN
>>113521021
>>113520770How are people getting accurate numbers for memberships or are these just estimates?
>>113522828I found it in /ope/>>113519070
>>113522939kek BAUSED
I think they'd enjoy this game that sponsored Shiori and IRyS, it's Tony Hawk's with trains in Japan.
>>113523007Yeah that bot posted it before
>>113522922Estimates. They record the names of people with memberships in public streams chat. So it is always an underestimate especially in months when there is no stream. They only did 8 public streams last month so the numbers will be on the lower side. Mococo month had one of the most active memberships in EN. Also, gifts are double counted if the talents have 2 waiting rooms opened and that happens to mori alot.
What would you think about FUWAMOCO making playing with Ruffian streams public streams but only putting the room/code in members so only members could join?
>>113522939Does ope hate nerissa more than baubau hate fuwamoco?
>>113523192That's what almost everyone else does so yes they should do it. Making the entire stream members is retarded and just a way to pad their members content (poorly) so that they aren't going 6 months between members streams.
>>113523192They did that for Mario kart because of Nintendo perms. Fuwawa wants to wape wuffians in private. She is a shy girl at heart.
>>113523140To be fair, that's kinda their fault though, no?
>>113523209Yes, but to be fair the hateful posters in both threads are mostly trolls and not actual fans.
>>113523232Bae and Mori meccha chameleon streams were member streams too.
>>113523192BAUSED
>>113522939So you are a shitposter who shitposts in /ope/ and here?
>>113523247Fuwawa is the perfect woman.
>>113523209Negrissa kinda deserves it a lot more
>>113520822The things that Cover looks to measure success could also change over time. Subs for example probably have less weight nowadays than they did some years ago, considering how many dead subs and probable bots are around.I certainly hope that FWMC didn't think that after getting to 1 million subs so fast they could just be coasting off of that accomplishment for years.
>>113523449NTA but yes I do both, except in /ope/ everyone already hates Nerissa
>>113523530Sure feels like they did with how drastically streams dropped off after they hit 1 million.
>>113520822That would make sense if Biboo did alot of content for members though, which she doesn't.
>>113523548Isn't that true for almost everyone in EN? Raora had a bigger fall off than them in terms of streams. Funny enough, only Nerissa managed to stream more compared to last year.
>>113523585Isn't that mostly because her numbers were already so low last year?
>>113523543does anyone in /baubau/ hate fwmc?
>>113523585Nerissa's 2025 was fucking dead so her streaming more this year isn't a good accomplishment.
They should play Secret of Evermore
>>113523618No, not even the shitposters, they’re all obsessed with FWMC
>>113523117>he actually clicks the links
>>113523530>The things that Cover looks to measure success could also change over time. Subs for example probably have less weight nowadays than they did some years agoTanigo-san only talked about subs in his year-end review for streaming milestones.
>>113523598>>113523635Nerissa numbers were bad but Ina and ERB were worse and they somehow managed to do even less this year.
>>113523192They should make it fully public. Casuals find playing with the talent a bigger draw than just watching. Do one public stream of the game with as many players as the game can handle, and at the end say you'll be doing more with members next week.
>>113523643BAUSED
>>113523684Ina and ERB never streamed a lot to begin with, Nerissa's 2025 was notable because it was a huge dropoff from her 2024. Side note, I'd like to point out how pathetic it is in a 14 channel branch, we already have 2 channels that are known for barely ever streaming even from debut.
>>113520770Ruffians paypigs should give more membership gifts.
>>113523740It works out for ERB and Ina though. Expectations are low for them but sponsorships still keep coming.
>>113523663Mentioning two highest sub counts (a metric that is easily understood by any casual person who happens to read that tweet accompanied by a big number) as milestones in a public announcement doesn't mean that the company doesn't internally look at other factors as well.
Pretty sure the only number that matters is merch sales.
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>>113523809But mentioning it on linkedin is also an indication of what the pig people values. Same reason why the newest kids on the block, ACHRORA, has milestones gatekeeped by subs and twitter likes(lol).
>>113523825Merch sales is interesting. You will think nerissa sells the least merch for serendipity given how low her superchats and ccvs are, but advent's final ranking ended up being 1. nerissa 2. mococo 3. fuwawa 4. biboo 5. shiori. Nerissa is probably the most popular advent member in NA.
>>113523850>has milestones gatekeeped by subs and twitter likes(lol)It's kinda offtopic for this thread but Cover's approach with that new mekPark group feels really shady.
>>113523888... are you unironically looking at garbage merch like those ugly tumblr style keychains from serendipity? Why would ruffians buy those when we have so much far better fwmc merch to buy?
>>113523903Shit was entirely planned from the start and they were right that people already gave up on the pushback. It's scummy as fuck and if they're cutting costs that much on new talent development then it doesn't bode well for the financial health of the company. But maybe once the homo and holoearth hole is recovered they'll be able to reinvest again. Right now it feels like they are just grabbing every bit of cash they can.Not optimistic about the monetization of the mobile game, I can already see all the talents casually dropping thousands in fake dollars on rolls making it seem like that's the way to play.
>>113523919>>113523888Like surely you are not talking about these, they are so ugly I wouldn't want them for free
>>113523740Nothing wrong with that if their fans are happy. Ina just did illustration for Pekora's merch, that's pretty cool. Maybe her fans enjoy that kind of work.
>>113523945Those are a lot cooler than the generic default pose outfit big plastic shit they sell for $30.
>>113523903My guess is some retards got promoted to senior management and mekpark is their pet project.
>>113523903What I really don't like is how at least one of them revealed she was a staff before this. Fuck that shit, I've been railing against staff trying to make names for themselves since Nodoka the whore, the GTA staff, the EN managers getting fan designs and then official designs including Omegafaggot. The only one I'll ever respect was A-chan, the rest tried to worm their way in to launch their own careers when they should be supporting the actual talents.
>>113523919actual fans buy merch to support their oshisthose are more valuable to cover than poorfags that will nitpick a $10 keychain's design
>>113523825Everything matters. Merch sales aren't gonna convince big gaming/music/whatever companies of hiring them to promote their slop, sub count is more likely to do that. But merch sales can be the deciding factor in convincing local brands for cafe collabs and stuff like that. Every area has its important number to go with it. Same with MV and Spotify views/listens, why would that make any difference whatsoever for a gaming sponsorship? But it sure does for albums and concerts.
>>113523945GG’s is cute
Meanwhile ERB is doing another karaoke. She's got more than FUWAMOCO have done this year.
The best metric is gallons of semen lost to the girl which is why Gura, Shion, and Ayame did so well despite never streaming.
>>113524039No one watches ERB
>>113523825well raora was just talking about memberships being an important metric internally for opportunities and many holos have talked about how they are the best way to support a talent (along with their personal merch sets)side note but superchats are basically always at the bottom of the list whenever holos talk about this stuff and they actively make streams worse, holos should really just turn them off
>>113523981Ok so you're just being a total retard on purpose, good we cleared that up.I'd much rather buy FWMC's keyboard and axgrit figure and nendo and other merch than these tumblerina trash And no, real fans don't buy generic merch to support their oshis. They get next to NOTHING from these gen/holo wide merch, we know that already
>>113524056FUWAMOCO don't seem to have gotten that memo because all they do is farm superchats and never do anything to get membership outside of the one or twice a year they say there's never been a better time to join the doggy pack before they ghost it for months.
>>113524056Personal merch and memberships are the best ways to support a talent because they get the biggest percentage of that money personally. However the current discussion is how talents get picked for events and sponsorships which is a different type of support.
>>113524062>I'd much rather buy FWMC's keyboard and axgrit figure and nendo and other merchokay but you don't because you're so poor you have to think about whether or not you should buy a keychain
>>113524088>raora was just talking about memberships being an important metric internally for opportunities
>>113524099Every single dollar spent on this ugly keychain is better spent on buying more of their own individual merch, of which they actually get a cut worth talking aboutCompany wide merch gives them next to nil, Kiara said that already You may stop trying at any point, you've already been completely btfo by now
>>113523549Doesn't she do monthly wallpapers and watch-alongs?
>>113524062I am still mad they only release 1000 of that keyboard. I wish I got it and no, I am not buying from scalpers.
>>113524148I paid for my next trip to Japan with the 3 extra I got.
>>113523641BAUSED
>>113524050irrefutable
>>113524088This, I doubt they'll see much of those 2 bucks or whatever you pay for their holo dreams membership but it seems very obvious that the easiest way to signal that I want more FWMC related stuff for a rhythm game (which could eventually include new original music made for it) is by paying for that crap, so I will.
>>113524135so post your merch, poorfag>kiaraoh if you're a kfp it would explain why you're so defensive about this since she's always dead last in the group merch>You may stop trying at any point, you've already been completely btfo by nowjust as a tip, trying to declare that you're winning an argument makes it look like you don't have any other response and is generally really embarrassing
>>113524007agreed
Mori members doubled when she started thanking member gifts during sc readings. FWMC can do that if they really need to boost that particular metric.
>>113524118>many holos have talked about how they are the best way to support a talent (along with their personal merch sets)I was referring to this, in the past when Holos like Coco and others have mentioned that. Raora mentioned this thing recently and so far no other Holo has corroborated this.
>>113524050https://files.catbox.moe/z1ftw7.mp3Bibhu.
>>113524217I always click the sponsored links even though I usually have no intention of buying whatever game they are shilling.
>>113524224I'm not gonna waste time for a random shitter who came in here to try and boast about Nerissa selling a lot of generic tumblr keychains. Absolutely pathetic angle, it's possibly the least desirable FWMC merch that ever existed and they have so much superior merchI'm also not a KFP just because I know what she said. Logical fallacy on your part, expected of someone with such a low IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrfrZyciXTg
>>113524302>they have so much superior merchwhich you won't post any ofbecause you don't have itbecause you're poorlol>>113524302>Logical fallacy on your part, expected of someone with such a low IQextremely ironic since your entire first sentence is ad hominem deflection
>>113524138No? Her last members was 2 months ago
>>113524358Nope, it's an accurate description of who you are. You literally tried the /#/ angle of "hehe FWMC didn't sell that much serendipity merch huh, they really fell off" and thought you could get away with itI suggest you stay in your shithole where that might fly, you're way out of your league here
>>113524267Where is this from?
>>113524499https://x.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/2076927923840299359
>>113524392I'm not that guy you retard, my first post is >>113523981 , my only argument is that you should buy merch to support your oshi and that you're a larping poor fag making excuses to not spend a ridiculously trivial amount of moneyand again bro typing essentially>I'm winning this argument so hardmakes it look like you're trying to convince yourself of that
>>113524499The ASMR kani opening stream she did in the studio like a year ago.
>>113524235They used to at the start, but Mane-chan probably warned them that most of those big 100 gifts were just ARSfags looking for attention, so they stopped.And considering those names who would gift 100 all the time completely disappeared, seems like that was indeed the case.
i like to brap brap brap brappers and bananas!I like to brap brap brap brappers and bananas!
>>113520578BAU BAU
>>113524625I remember that fag LoDong will drop 500 gifts every stream.
>>113525197Wapeeeeee
another shiori indie game showcasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF9qknCzKv0
I want to have sex with FUWAMOCO
>>113525328The novelites LOVE her.
>>113524050The only person here with common sense
Hello ruffians!Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!Day 1075: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. For anki I've learned 5 new cards. For immersion I've watched one episode of an anime.BAU BAU!
I personally don't deserve all the KINO FUWAMOCO have been bringing this week
>>113525328This is a really awesome idea for a stream, how many did she do?Must be perms nightmare to do as well. No chance any of these devs would say no, but just having to ask all of them is already a pain in the ass, so kudos to her manager as well.
>>113525975At least 2, you can probably find them searching inkwell showcase. I have really enjoyed them and am glad she does it. I hope she gets a holo indie sponsorship too like kaela has.
>>113525735gj!
>>113526236BRAT RAPE
おはよ~~~!! ぷりきゅあをみるぞ!
>>113526610help me with my morning wood, onee san!
6 hours minimum today right? Finally a Saturday retro gaming stream too.
>>111096001yep it's kino
>>113527230BAUSED
>>113527373FWMC would invade your homes and wape you dry at the dawn of night.
Nevermind, boss fights are hard as balls, Moco-chan would cry.
take care bros the phasecucks are not in a good mood today...
Wuffians, Mocochan ripped ass and it really really stinks!!
>>113527930That looks dope as hell though
>>113529495What happened this time
>>113529649Graduation announcement.
>>113529495What happened?
If you use 枚 for counting mocochans what do you use for fluffy Fuwawas?
>>113529788lol
>>113529649>>113529819>>113529601>disagreement with managementIs phase a black company like Holo?
>>113529788KEK deserved
>>113529636It is, if you have nostalgia for classic Mortal Kombat style sprites it's really cool. I have no idea how I even came across this game.
>>113529896This bitch missed her debut because she's mentally ill and then refused to work and quit in a few months. What were the disagreements with management? That they wanted her to do her fucking job she interviewed for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adiHNkjKMV0
>>113529937Fuck off phasecuck.
>>113529924There were a lot of ads for it before. I'm pretty sure that steam bot posted it once or twice.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
>>113530174I haven't watched any of that shit company. They're all whores but I hate lazy bitches more than whores because at least whores stream and pretend to care unlike that bitch. Now she's going to pity bait money like saba before fucking off again.
>>113529937kek wtf I thought we had it bad with the laziness we get in HoloEN sometimes.
>>113520770You are taking what she said way too seriously. Management isn't completely brainless, they know that the amount of members isn't really proportional to the amount of merch sold, you have to take into account things like gifted memberships or how the value of a membership is a lot lower with some currencies. As an example of that, you said that Biboo "far surpasses" FWMC, but how's that relevant when FWMC sell a lot more merch than her? Also, other companies like Good Smile focus exclusively on subs and that's what FWMC really care about.
>>113530358It's why I don't think there will be an EN5 for a while if ever. The talent pool is completely ruined now. You'd have to find multiple diamonds in the rough, probably JP girls that also know EN or something to even have a chance. Everyone else is just a grifter looking to join then go back to being indie.
>EN5 but mekpark ENYou rike?
>>113530430Yeah it's a strange period. A lot of the girls who were inspired by early vtubers have already been eaten up or have been burnt out from irrelevance. The only people that are left are the people that don't really care that much about it so they're fine doing it as a side gig.
>>113530452If they did that, I don't think I'd bother watching
>>113530430>Everyone else is just a grifter looking to join then go back to being indie.JPs made a meme about this regarding the EN vtubing sphere but I can't find it anymore.
>>113523888>advent's final ranking ended up being 1. nerissa 2. mococo 3. fuwawa 4. biboo 5. shiori. Nerissa is probably the most popular advent member in NA.You are looking at the pointless generic monthly merch that only casuals buy. The most important merch is the anniversary/BD merch and Nerissa was the only member of Advent that failed at selling all her limited merch for her anniversary AND birthday last year
>>113530851The most important metric is the heart. And FUWAMOCO win that every day
>>113527373Fuwawa wants to wape all the Wuffians
>>113527304I want to cum inside their tails
>i won't have time to watch part 1 anything important to know?Is this retard for real
>>113530996TRUKE
>>113531127I don't understand why people always have to come up with some dramatic excuse to not watch. It's as bad as the idiots who join just to say they can't watch for some random reason. Like ok? Thanks for sharing.
>>113531328They want FUWAMOCO's pity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMA7otymgYw
>>113531432If it was Fuwawa she would just click her tongue and say Wuffians that's silly.
>>113531328tracing fags and japs do this then show up to every stream. everything they do is for attention.
I think there are a lot of greys wanting to see the truth about Fuwawa's huge floofies thanks to that viral cosplayer.
>>113522792Hasn't Biboo become more affectionate with the pebbles than FWMC?
>>113531536Fuwawa is the perfect woman and doesn't like dirty jokes.
>>113531651But enough about your boyfriends.
>>113531714I think both of them have shown their fans more affection than your parents have shown you since your sex change operation
>>113531748Fuwawa LOVES dirty jokes.
>>113531839KEK
>>113531839BAUSED.
no but really thowhat the fuck happening to fuwamoco morning
>>113531651>I was so busy at work today>thanks for the like Fuwawa chan and mokoko chan it really saved me>Tweeted 15 times throughout the day
>>113531848
>>113531925They never intended to keep doing it once they farmed fans and subs to 1M. Moving to Japan was their only reason for joining hololive so now they just want to coast and make that money.
>>113531714Biboo is a child and so she doesn't suspect the pebbles of wanting to violate her. Mococo constantly suspects the ruffians of wanting to wape her full grown puppy cunny. Meanwhile Fuwawa wants to wape the wuffians whether they like it or not.
Mocopirate this artist has an alt for the pic related, if you are willing https://patreon.com/Zambonito?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan&utm_content=join_link
The word "Whimsy" makes me irrationally angry now thanks to Gigi. Thank god FWMC don't use it.
interesting how they have gotten so busy at the """studio""" since moving to japan...
>>113531961Fuwawa loves gorillas but Mococo is scared of them and wishes they would die.
>>113531984Moco-chan is too erotic...
>>113532048I want to lock Moco-chan into a self driving car and rape her while wearing a ski mask.
>>113532080ueh. Noeh. NOEEEHHH!!
>>113532098https://files.catbox.moe/r6pmri.ogg
>>113532026Interesting that your parents haven’t called as often as they used to since you told them you believe you are a woman
If not for rape why rape shaped?
>>113531839Noeh...
>>113532026if the studio is in japan then by default they'll be busier there once they move to japan, that's how it workslike I know what you're trying to do but you gotta try harder man, you're not even making sense anymore
Fuwawa is for treating roughly normally (you can poke fun at her) but treating gently sexually. Mococo is for treating gently normally (you can't poke fun at her) but treating roughly sexually.
>>113532155
>>113532048Mococo is a prude and needs a good dicking to teach her how to please men.
>>113532292Mococo is a slutty sex brained puppy who is ashamed of her desires but is always thinking of the most degenerate things.
>>113531992>Thank god FWMC don't use it.They have used it
>>113532245BAUSED
>nobody is perfect... specially after 30 yearsFWMC...
>>113532314https://youtu.be/LHD2NIZFAeU?t=4408>Fuwawa says "dirty wuffians">Mococo overreactshttps://youtu.be/LHD2NIZFAeU?t=9372>Fuwawa talks about inviting wuffians to the dog house>Mococo panics
>>113532475There was the time Fuwawa said something and Mococo was thinking about blowjobs. I think it was "fela" as in fellatio. There's numerous other examples that I can't think of right now.
>We shared a bananaYea mine.
>>113532475>>113532561Moco-chan is a horny perverted puppy
>>113532149yawn...get new materialor are you incapable of that just like your parents are incapable of loving you?
>Mococo doesn't even eat a whole banana a dayTHIS IS WHY YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM SUCKS MOCOCHAN. An apple a day keeps the doctor away, not half an apple.
>>113532587These girls should have 1 banana each. The banana is mine of course
>>113532600I wish they were doing separate meet and greets so I could tell Mocochan I know what she is
>we shared a banana!>bweakfast!I hope they had more than that, maybe a strawberry or two.
>>113532435Their eggs...
>>113532587Fluffy and fuzzy are sex demons
>>113532643
Myoto 2.0 just dropped
>>113532618>I'm not frail>I don't eat bad food>sometimes my tummy horts
>>113532618the total amount of banana ive eaten in my life does not equal one single banana i hate the taste of it
>>113532561I'm going to need a timestamp for this one
>>113532727>I just have migraines all the time>And tummy aches>And my hair started turning white in my 20s>And I'm always sick>And I go to the hospital a lot>And I lost my voice a lot>And I get allergies to everything>And my allergies are so bad, they literally take me out sometimes for entire days
>>113532149you stuck his nerves chef
I heard these dogs were playing games in the 1990s. so why do they seem unfamiliar with standard platformer movement?
>>113531933KEK
>>113532690Myoto is Doomer 2.0. There's always one retard waiting in the wings to do it once they start streaming regularly again. New idiots fall in love blow their savings trauma dump and blow their brains out while bau bauing.
>>113532727Mocotyan needs lots of headpats and hugs
>>113531839Somebody is triggered kek>>113531967Biboo does it on purpose after being voted the least sexy holomem mindbroke her
>>113532778Sorry I don't even remember the stream, you can try searching the archives, it was discussed in thread.
>>113532833Why are you larping as a pebble to shitstir holo v holo in a /baubau/ thread. Surely their are better things to do in your mudhut saar.
>>113532763open wide raffian
>>113531839KEK truke
>>113532819They're the retro gamers of EN
It's funny to see Phasecucks coming on /baubau/ to shitpost, as if we'd ever forget that Phase is a black corpo that doesn't pay its talent
>>113532895
>>113532895Moco-chan is the cutest fuzzy sex slave!!
>>113532934Nerissa has finished more retro games than they have.
>>113532561It was in the sweets collab with Shiori, when they were having "Fueramune", Fuwawa misread it as "Feramune" and Moco-chan had a heart attack.
>>113532780Moco-chan has the body of a grandma but the mind of a child...
>>113532945
>>113532886It is a phasefag from /#/. He is always posing as a pebble to shit on cc and gg.
>>113532985Negrissa hasn't done a single stream in a week
>>113532985No she hasn’t
how do other vtubers even compete2 people on 1 channel? they can basically stream 24/7
>>113533002Based good memory Ruffian giving evidence to my claims.
>>113532940Do they even have money to pay their talents? Their average ccv among their talents are 2views.
This is how the average player experiences SotN
>>113532780Mococo...
I don't have to worry about my weight because I know even if I eat like a big heart disease won't get me until I'm 50 and Mococo is so frail she'd be lucky to make it to menopause with her current diet.
>>113533023no the shitposter is an actual pebble he posted merch when someone called him out on not being a ruffian like it counted
>>113532833Bibhu can do innocent things and appear sexy.
>>113533094Phasefag told me their girls make more money than the Holo, but from what I've seen, Fishman keeps all the money for himself (one of the girls had to beg for work on her RM because she needs money).
>>113533179Some of the things she's done in VRchat are anything but innocent. She knows what she's doing.
Their CCV has dropped to like half, I'll never understand that. Like maybe super long running series that are story focused RPGs I can understand not wanting to come in at the middle, but this is literally the second stream they've done of this and the last one wasn't that long ago. Plus this isn't a very story heavy game, you can just watch them be cute while playing it. Do people only want to see vtubers try games once?
Amazing the wolves are bad at controlling a wolf
>>113533201People fucking hate good content. Shiori's Indie Games Showcase had like 2k viewers.
>>113533201More like interest among the EN fanbase in vtubers is waning.
>>113533208They're demon doegs
>>113533201They got pretty much the same number as Luna did when she streamed sotn so who cares
>>113533201It's not their fault although the huge gaps in streaming consistency didn't help. EN vtubing as a whole is in a rut. The audience just isn't there and it's more diluted than ever with most people tending to only watch clips and post on social media now.
>>113533188>make more money than HoloKEK Pippa must make millions a year then.
>>113533311>>113533340No I mean this shit happens to everyone, even the big people in JP. There's usually a huge dropoff from the first stream to the second stream of a game.
>>113533343That's literally what they believe.
>>113533201Their CCV for this game may have dropped because I don't think their gameplay for this particular game has been very compelling. There are people doing far more interesting things with SotN in the streaming space than having difficulty dodging bone pillar skulls falling down the chapel stairs.
>>113533383They'd honestly be better off not putting numbers in the thumbnail or title until after the stream ends imo. Unless it's a story game then they're fucked regardless. People will tune in to see them play DKC they don't care where they are but seeing part #8 you get autists that won't even bother opening it and then never return to watch the first parts so they skip those vods entirely.
>>113533383They know, they just desperately want to shitpost
I like Moco-chan's aggressive "un un"s
>>113533466>They'd honestly be better off not putting numbers in the thumbnail or title until after the stream ends imo.That's a good take (unironically)
>>113533444I don't think anyone watches FUWAMOCO or most Vtubers for the gameplay. >>113533473I mean I don't disagree, HoloEN definitely has a streaming consistency problem and that has definitely caused a decrease in engagement, I just don't think it applies in this case.
>>113533480They're good but Fuwawa's growls get me hard.
>>113533191She saw the crab cunny viral clip and thought people were making fun of her for being weak and tiny.
>>113533522The gameplay has to be at least tolerable.
>>113520560mococo is full of whimsy and has a lickable tummyfuawa is full of retard and her sinful boobs will attract beach punks who want to fuck her
>>113533201>>113533444It hasn’t. Their first stream peaked at 6.1k. They are at 4.5k 30 minutes in and it will probably peaked at 5k. For reference, Luna’s first stream of it peaked at 6.6k and her second stream peaked at 5k.
>>113533522Playing a retro game already means it'll only be old fucks watching and that type of person doesn't want to watch retard level gameplay. Some struggle is cute but not this much. They should stick to playing games like zelda, 3D platformers, etc. Those have nostalgia, good music and they won't hit a brick wall on anything.
>listening to random indie while reading this thread>she starts quoting fuwawa and mococoFuckmeme magic
kill yourself number tranny
>>113533572Is Luna a l33t SotN gamer?
>>113533586I don't think they're struggling as much as DKC.
>>113533610Not l33t but she is a decent gamer in general.
Why doesnt Fuwa play instead of forcing Mococo to go through such suffering?
>>113533586I find it much more fun watching someone actually explore and struggle with the systems than some speedtranny rushing through it. All of the "gamers" just keep making retarded jokes over every single interesting part of the game and paying attention to nothing, I couldn't stomach watching Biboo playing RE4 because of this. FWMC actually engage with the game.
>>113533593You can only baubau now
>>113533673Why do you call her "Fuwa", do you hate my sweet fluffy wife?
Mococo is who IGA had in mind when he designed the level up system in this game.
>>113533673So that Mocochan can grow into a big strong puppy like her.
Anyone making a fan game just needs to add levels and a skill tree even if it's negligible and mocochan will love it.
>>113533522>HoloEN definitely has a streaming consistency problem and that has definitely caused a decrease in engagementhere are like 18k people watching EN right noweven assuming some double dipping EN has had like 10-15k split among whoever is streaming during primetime for years
>>113533911Don’t forget farming.
>>113533836Moco-chan is a full grown puppy
>>113533926they play too infrequently. they each need to stream at least 5 days a week
>>113533926Yeah and there was a time even Kiara could get 15k watching her. Members of JP First Army who speak a dying language can get like 40k regularly. 10-15k for years is pathetic for EN and it all started in 2022 when EN stopped streaming.
GRAPE MOCO-CHAN
>>113533949>Even when maxed out on xp and skill tree she still farms manually every day in holovillageI think she might be a wee bit touched by the tism.
>>113533523Fuwawa is the incarnate of sex.
>>113534002>here was a time even Kiara could get 15k yeah that time was a global pandemicare you pretending to be retarded?
>>113533961With a full grown puppy cunny! TuT
>>113534025
>>113534002Vtubing just didn’t catch on in the west so no point crying over it.
>>113534075No you're being retarded. I'm talking near the end when things normalized. At debut and Covid buff, Kiara could hit anywhere from 20-25k, sometimes she'd even top out at 30k.
>>113534139I just think HoloEN has squandered it's potential, it's not that it "didn't catch on" it's that the hires for EN were lazy as fuck.
these Fluffy giggles are magical
>>113534139did people really expect like 100 million Americans to watch anime girls play video games on the internet? It's obviously a niche activity in the west.
Xbox bros, someone ported Gears 2 to PC.
>>113533805Castlevania level up systems does make my autism happy.
>>113534279SotN was also just ported to pc
>>113534261There's over 100 million Americans who watch anime and play video games.
>>113534075Gura/Saba is the only one that could reach these numbers consistently anymore
>>113534319vtubing is a subset of gamers and anime watchers. It doesn't appeal to everyone who does those.
>>113534184I think it's a bit more malicious than that. Ironic weebs and grifters have basically turned normies against Corpo Vtubing for short term gains. Meanwhile, vtubing is super widely accepted in Japan and is making its way into all sorts of media.
>>113534150you said 2022which was still inside the pandemicand numbers have been stable for years since the pandemicand it's really pathetic that you have been going>EN is totally dying guys two more weeksfor four fucking years jesus man get a life
>>113534305That's interesting, does it have any advantage over emulating?
>>113534360>2022>Still inside the pandemiclol fuck no, the lockdowns were done by the end of 2021. And it's not that EN is dying, it's that they're not taking advantage of the audience that could be there.
>>113534150The Sana (and later Kiara) lines settled at around 3k by 2022.People that do not know about numbers should not talk about numbers.
People are over corporate crap especially when it comes to content. They want indie, even if indie means sponsored by massive companies. It's just how it is.
Stream is so boring no one is talking about it
>>113534432No they don'tIndie numbers have been the most miserable in years. Vedal, Mouse, Zentranny, Shylily, you name it. The only way they have an audience is if something bad happens to HoloEN
>>113534344Why would gamers and anime watchers care about songs and concerts retard
>>113534463They're being cute which is enough but this definitely isn't a full focus stream for me. And retards in chat make me not want that open either.
>>113534184It isn’t just holoEN. Vshojo imploded. Phase is full of 3views with pippa who used to get 5k struggling to get half of that these days. NijiEN is a shadow of its former self and resort to botting and admitted to it as much. VSPOen is irrelevant and other small corps pretty much died out.
>>113534419maybe you had to go back to your burger flipper job in 2021 but WHO didn't declare it over until mid 2023 and I certainly wasn't back in office until some time after that
>>113534412Its the 360 version (ps1 still in progress) and eventually it will allow insane mods which cant easily be done to SotN in emu form due to the way SotN is structured. However its very early on now. Emulation still has more QOL at the moment.
>>113534463Stream posters are in tower.
>>113534483Individual Indies sure. But the impossible task of counting up every indie and comparing it to corporate ones is what I'm getting at. More people just tune into an indie that does exactly what they want even if they're a 2 view or smaller. And for people that want the big audience there's still Indies or the dumb flesh/vtubers. Hololive and wanting a corporate idol thing where streams are usually an afterthought isn't the most popular idea in the West right now.
>>113534432
>>113534554I guess if you sum all 2 million registered indies they beat HoloEN...?But it's not really serious, is it?
>>1135345542views are better as you can actually talk to them. You really have no chance of getting a holo to respond to you unless you pay them in superchats
>>113534510https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_lockdowns#Table_of_pandemic_lockdownsShit was back and open by the end of 2021, remote work was the minority not the majority, which goes against your whole point that everyone was locked inside and thus could have watched Vtubers 24/7. Cars on the road and traffic as normal were happening even in end of 2020.
It isn't fair why does she get picked for everything now? All we get are fuwamoco in Japanese shilling holo dreams...
They got the werebane drop from the hunting girl 2nd try.
>Guys HoloEN is dying and everyone used to get 25k but not anymore lol keklmao kekaroo>No that's not true>>...well here is FWMC vs Biboo shitpostingPffff hahahahahahah
>>113534659They are dogs so its a special buff they have
>>113534594I'm serious. Unless you're a diehard I want Japanese concerts and corporate events then most people that want to watch vtubers who got introduced to it through hololive in COVID moved on to another option that cns play any game they want and sing any song they want. And those people still are having (shitty) concerts. To me, the high production values of the 3D lives and concerts is worth it but I get why most EN fans aren't as devoted.
Blud can't even type English sentences and thinks spamming on cool down while we're enjoying a kino stream is doing anything to distract from another cuckconnect graduation.
>>113534682Yeah Phasefag are retarded
>>113534729Was wondering why the phasefag was here today
>>113534630Are you retarded? FWMC booster came out last month and sold out immediately. They even had special cards issued with jump.
>>113534692The only good indie is an AI bot run by a male.
Mococo independently discovered the speed running backslide trick
>>113534692This. There's a reason why every single EN concert is by a major convention like AX or ANYC at the same time. There aren't enough diehard idolfags, because diehard idolfags are watching actual idols. Hololive is at it's best when they take anime and videogame fans and make them invested in the occasional idol stuff, but you need streams for that.
>>113534742ignore the phase tranny larping as a pebble
>>113534729BAUSED brapbludGOD tellEM
>>113534742They're popular in Japan. You might have missed we're talking about EN vtubing here, which FUWAMOCO are a part of. I don't see nips that buy Japanese cards watching streams.
>>113534746You talking about neuro-sama? That male is a sexpest.
How far are they through the game?
>>113534760They really need to give up on the concerts, its a huge money sink and bizarre anyway since the real performer isnt even on stage. It'd be like going to a rock concert to watch a Red Hot Chili Peppers video on a giant screen
why would someone put input commands in a metroidvania game?
>>113534682The most popular talent in Phase gets a third of FWMC's ccvhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXnTZaVoAPIKEK.
>>113534843No the concerts are good for hype and fan meetups, they just need to fucking stream more so people actually want to go to them.
>>113534842Maybe 20% if they don't get lost.>>113534852Sotn was a very experimental game. If the devs thought it was cool they put it in, which is why there is so much weird stuff in the game like many weapons with obscure abilities few players will ever use
>>113534843I mean, if it works?Every EN concert has a bigger attendance than the previous one, even the absolute debuff BULLSHIT that was Serendipity sold at the very least 10,500 tickets, and that was on a 4th of July with no Expo to attach themselves to
>>113534614you're making a false equivalence between lockdowns and the pandemic, WFH exploded during that time and then return to office mandates only started in the last few yearsfor all you numberfaggots larping as statisticians I think it's pretty funny that you're like>oh that global spike in remote work and then return to normal that happens to totally line up with the trends in stream watching is completely a coincidence, it's really because the new vtubers are bad, actuallylike damn fucktard if you want to be an anti just call them whores or something like everyone elseyou just embarrass yourself when you try to justify it with shit you don't know anything about
>>113534828You move the goalposts so fast you belong in tonight's World Cup final
>>113534913The average Holofan is not WFH, the vast majority of them have shit ass jobs.
>>113534966do we really have stats for such a thing?
>I need your phone numbersMocochad
>>113534852The devs were trying out a bunch of different stuff. It added a charm to the game.
>>113534913You have me confused with someone else, I want them and the rest of Holo EN to stream more. Antis want them to graduate and never stream again. And you're just fucking delusional if you think the lackluster debut of Council, one of whom who barely fucking streamed before graduating, one who torched her fanbase, one of whom was always sick, one who was an ironic weeb whore, and the only one who streamed lectured her fans about friendship and then graduated to be an indie whore, didn't hurt EN at all, not to mention the fact that Gura and Ame basically fell off a cliff in 2022.
>>113535055kys roli
>>113534998The average Ruffian skews older obviously but most Holofans are literally fucking college kids or just out of college in their early 20s, these are not people who have work from home jobs.
>>113534833Yep. The bar is incredibly low for indie vtubers.
>>113535092Roli was based and 100% correct
I'll have some more peanut m&m's
>>113535055dude you have literally been posting>council killed EN!!like some autistic loser that hasn't updated your shitposts in 4 years virtually every day for monthsget a life jesus christ
>bunch of retards spamming the same backseating comments>somehow I am the one getting shadowbanned for just commenting normallyI literally cannot enjoy FWMC anymore because of whatever retarded faggot mods they have.
>>113535159They literally almost did. Cover's own financials even said as much.
>>113535115She told an otomo to fuck off and then proceeded to go on a multi month hiatus. He was entirely right.
>>113535097There are WFH jobs that are available to people straight out of college or even with certifications, you just have to know what they are and which businesses have them. I.e. the businesses that don't want to waste millions on high rise rent just to be able to act like they are the shit.
>>113534852Because it's BAUSED and helps filter out the people that say Metroidvanias are too hard.
>>113535176how is it the mod's fault that you got shadowbanned by youtube? you're the retard.
>>113535238I think you should lose some weight, Simon, instead of shitposting here. Soon you won't even be able to get out of bed.
>>113535245The total number of Americans working from home is around 20%. That's one in five. So now you're telling me all of them are Hololive fans? It's probably way lower.
lol
So many larpers that are giving advice but you can tell haven't actually played the game
>>113535212what a fucking loser
>>113535331Anything for a read
>>113535371Everything I said was correct.
>>113535371Mental illness
>>113535331This is literally every single game stream for any streamer
>>113535331stfu tracer
>>113535319I didn't say anything about statistics, just that you can definitely get a WFH job out of college if you look for one and assuming your chosen profession is tailored to allow WFH.
why is the game so fucked?
>>113535484theyre playing on a scratched disc
>>113535212If Kronii wasn't feminized, Council might've just been a complete flop irredeemable gen
SOTN looking like harmony of dissonance right now.
>>113535511It's kinda funny how scuffed it's gotten and they are still playing
Fuwawa is almost there
if wonder if konami is gonna get mad at them for playing on a fucked up copy
>>113535600Don't tell Konami or they may disallow playing games on physical media
>>113534511Since it's the 360 version, they should also recompile Harmony of Despair, loved that game.
>>113535600You should worry more about your shift key.
>>113535371His TRUKEs makes you seethe
>>113535600If only there were a way to preserve these games in digital form and emulate the hardware perfectly. We could call it PCSX. It's too bad that doesn't exist and if it did they wouldn't allow it anyway.
>>113535653no but your samefagging makes me laughinb4 inspect element
Feels like they're trying to go for 100%. Better lock in ruffians. This could take awhile.
>>113535562I am pleasantly surprised they soldiered on.
>>113535684The Japanese laws are literally insane on such things. They lock people up for that stuff over there.
>>113535653>His
>>113535620BAUSED they should
>>113535738Sony why do you have time to post about vtuber streams? You should be counting your money piles
>>113535688Are you trying to deny that council singlehandedly killed HoloENs growth?
Mococo seems to like this game more than DKC
>>113535844are you a literal bot
>>113535371TRXKE NVKEM
>>113535688>>113535888You're arguing with someone else shiftkey idiot.
>>113534852>Why would they put something in a Castlevania game in a metroidvania game?Most of the IGA Castlevania games have input commands.Also, every game should have input commands, theyre cool.They really help for adding extra abilities when you have a limited number of buttons. Although SotN was on the Playstation so it had plenty of buttons, but for the DS and GBA games it was helpful.
>>113535886She's really focused
>>113535371holy samefag
>>113535886Yeah, because its a better game.Its an easier game too which helps.
Was this sky effect really so good that they had to add it to all their games?
they are actually using some of the more obscure mechanics in the game. im surprised.
>>113535371Council's debut and it's consequences were a disaster for the EN vtubing community
>>113536096No one ever really says what was wrong with council, only the 'effect' it had
Mococo is too autistic for her own good
>>113535944>>113536056I think it having all these rpg elements is keeping the bautism occupied. I really wish to watch her play ffx.
>>113536153She's thinking about the buttons.
>>1135361243 lazy grifter whores 1 rave whoreand one redeemed whore
Imagine if Mococo plays d2 remake.
>>113536194compared to 1 homo and tranny loving whore1 homo collabing whore2 lazy mutt whores
>>113536194Kronii isn't redeemed.
>>113536124>No one ever really says what was wrong with council60% of the gen is literally dead
>>113536195Blizzard should sponsor Moco-chan
get in herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jfmO1B4n58
>>113536256Fuck no
>>113536162They are never gonna stream FFX because they have played it already.
>>113536227you forgot biboo promisecuck
>>113536240Thats what is supposed to happen. idols are supposed to graduate after a few years. it isn't meant to be a permanent occupation.
>>113536281biboo is perfect
>>113536285>sanaKEKADOODLEDOOOOOO
>>113536256Oh look another male collab.
>>113536227Sorry we offended you, councilcuckbrap, but council is literally the most worthless and pointless gen in ALL of Hololive and it's not even close. Advent is the Golden Gen and council was the trash gen.
>>113536281>>113536319Biboo is a hard working rock, and is what every vtuber should strive to be.
>>113536319irrefutable
>>113536342golden gen lollmao this ain’t 2024 anymore
>>113536256KEK what a stupid fucking whore
>>113536162https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNcv4rPvuOQbelieve
>>11353643325th anniversary? I just bought the 10th anniversary edition though. It was for PS3 and Vita...
Someone should make a FWMC fan game metroidvania where Mococo's clothes get torn each time she takes damage even to 1 dmg zombies. This fills up an arousal bar that forces her into a hscene if she takes enough hits, regardless of damage.
>>113536342BAUSED
