Thinkin of goin on a maccas run. You blokes want anything? My shout.

>"You DARE ask ME to STREAM?!"

This is the weirdest graduation of any vtubers I have witnessed

>>113529664
some mcnuggies plz

>>113529601
>"here are my plans"
>thanos snapped
i raffed

>>113529733
In what way?

odds on dramatubers covering this saga?

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>just sits around and mumbles for several minutes
>"No I didn't really talk about the Phase Citizen thing with Sakana..."
>"Creative slump because management couldn't fit my timeline"
This just feels like a really weird tantrum that she didn't think through at all.

>>113530200
She doesn't have enough content or streams for them to cover this.

The poetry that the shortest tenured girl (Anya) is a Puerto Rican who lasted only 6-months, is graduating on the Puerto Rican daisenpai's (Lia) 6th birthday.

>>113530200
100%
They're probably ITT

>>113530369
that and she fucked lumi by announcing on her 5th anniversary. great timing all around.

>announces graduation on Lumi's album day and 5th anniversary
>holding her graduation on Lia's 6th birthday and probable 3d live
fucked up.
they have been working on those projects for longer than Nyana was even in Phase Connect for.

>>113530297
Imagine that lol

>>113529733
Well yeah, she's happy to go and continue on as nyana and that's what all of her fans wanted anyways
Phase became a lame prison, like nijisanji lite

>>113530527
>great timing all around
This but sincerely.

>>113530200
Lol

>>113530532
can't help but feel like this was on purpose
thinking the real reason she's leaving is that she didn't get along with anyone, and this is her pulling a final little "fuck you" on her way out

>>113530662
when I said "fucked up" I wasn't meaning on her part. this is fucked up on Phase's part. They should have told her to announce it on the 19th and graduate on the 30th or August 1st.

>>113530297
Latinas man ...

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>>113529601
How's that "opportunity of a lifetime" working out for you?

>>113529733
ADHD is the best way to describe this graduation

Hit da bricks

>>113530532
>they have been working on those projects for longer than Nyana was even in Phase Connect for.
you say that like it's impressive, that just shows how thinly stretched the budget allotment for the PC talents even are

fishman was retarded, forced the company to grow in a bunch of failed ventures, got his back blown out by corporate sponsors, and now the talents are rightfully leaving because there is no benefit to being in phase

what do you get in phase?
financing for projects? maybe in 2+ years time
new outfits? 2+ years time
talent freedom? lol, lmao

almost every single PC girl is either too talented for phase connect and would function better as an indie, or should probably just get a real job/become a housewife
this is a fact

the only reason phase connect still even exists, is because sakana has sunk cost fallacy, and is determined to flip the corpo for some kind of profit

>>113529601
This bitch needed a "manager" and Sakana wasn't up for the task

>disagreements with management
>we would prefer if you streamed
>we prefer if you participated in company events
>we would prefer if you got to know your gen at all

>>113530846
You see, when you get the opportunity of a lifetime, you still have to actually fucking use it.

>>113530662
>thinking the real reason she's leaving is that she didn't get along with anyone
nyana got along with plenty of the talents, pc just wasn't beneficial to her

>>113530583
Do all the girls in phase see it as a prison?

>>113530662
Everyone else was putting actual work in while she was coasting and acting like a dead fish on the few streams she shit out. Why the fuck would anyone other than horrible judgement of people Pippa get along with her?

>>113530717
Either Phase poorly planned this out because their managers pay so little attention to the talents now, or they're deliberately powering through it because they know people do not give enough of a shit about Anya to where these events won't be derailed in the slightest. The only thing that would make things really awkward is if Anya deliberately tries to make it about herself by calling into Lia's birthday stream.

>>113530907
Phase is stronger than ever, this girl was just a failure

>>113530980
>Phase is stronger than ever
You mean they're up to .7% now!?

>>113530909
>>113530932
PC blatantly told her what content she was and wasn't allowed to make anymore

nyana was way edgier than pippa ever was, sakana completely miscalculated trying to for canadian sensibilities on every single girl as if they give a shit

>>113529733
It's the most ignored graduation I have ever seen

>>113530717
You are assuming Anya told them she was planning to do this. Considering her behavior thus far, that's a big assumption.

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>>113530967
Lia's birthday is only a big deal if she is doing a birthday live, which is suspected. If it is just a standard call in kudoboard slop, then it's ok Lia probably wont even care this will be her 6th birthday.

I suspect Anya would likely hold it before it and raid into it. They are friends.

>>113530953
no, it definitely helps some girls more than others, but around 5 talents completely got their balls cut off due to phasecon sponsor rules and now their channel growth has tanked because fishman is keeping those rules in place

>>113530980
are you one of those fags saying MASTERPIECE NOLAN HAS DONE IT AGAIN!!!! to one of the lamest movies of the decade?
you remind me of them

>>113531067
Will she be pausing to flirt with random guys on discord during?

I dont understand what stream content she would have wanted to do that Phase would have said "no" to unless she was gonna become a fansly girl. They were flexibile with her to let her skip debut and not stream for 3 months. They were flexible enough to let her out of her contract early.
I think what happened was is that she came in and expected 3D support immediately and didn't have any patience, and she took her ball and went home.

>>113530907
>almost every single PC girl is either too talented for phase connect and would function better as an indie, or should probably just get a real job/become a housewife
You can reasonably say this about literally any vtuber corpo that isn't Hololive at this point, and even then, Hololive has enough drawbacks in other categories that it's probably still true for them.
Indies with a management agency or with an independent manager/assistant seems to be the true meta right now. Corpos are struggling to maintain their relevance without benefits packages that indies can't get easily themselves...which in turn increases the cost of hiring talent and the initial investment required on the company's behalf, reinforcing the eternal question of "why would I invest so much money when a menhera whore will just drop me in 6 months".

>>113531275
Some are saying she wanted to be a Christian vtuber.

>>113529601
>refuses to debut on time
>refuses to do Phase Con
>leaves

What was the point in even hiring her? I hope this puts an end to Pippa nepo hires.

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>>113529601
The brain damage was far worse than feared. She needs to fucking stop streaming altogether. That acupuncture made her beyond retarded.

>>113531275
Probably wanted to do more of her lower budget 3D concerts she was known for with a bunch of non-Phase vtubers and got told no

>>113531307
there's definitely some girls in corpo's that are benefitting

funny enough, aqua benefited from hololive very heavily, she has no hunger as an indie streamer, and the indie life is no place for passive income

>>113531391
Why did she join a corpo if she didn't want to do corpo things?

>>113531391
I doubt it was that. Phase doesn't stop that stuff. They even gave Nyana some of their talents to do her concerts back in the day.
They dont stop Nitty from being a Barbie.

>>113530200
I want a parrot vidoe.

>>113531437
Absolutely, but there's also plenty of people that benefit from dead-end jobs.

>>113531275
>unless she was gonna become a fansly girl
as if Phase doesn't already have a bunch of GFE streamers and flesh posting whores

>>113531275
>>113531391
she's talked about it in the nyana discord
she wanted out awhile ago, phase was more corpo than she liked, too much management meddling, risk assessment shit

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>>113531555
>I begged to join a corpo, but wanted out of the corpo immediately because they were a corpo and expected me to be a corpo vtuber

>>113531500
lucahjin is a good example of someone who treats content creation as a dead end job and it shows

there's just a lot of "middle management" type women with no drive once they are in a stable place, even if it gets progressively shittier and shittier over time

>>113531275
Maybe she just wanted more budget in general and learned the hard way Phase is not the place for that.
but from whatever happened before she debut, something must have gone really wrong and I wouldn't doubt she was planning to leave before she even debuted and has been throwing a tantrum until we got here

>>113529601
Damn that pretty quick

>>113531619
phase management kind of misled her, they changed a lot rules due to phasecon sponsors, by the time she debuted it already stopped being the company she wanted to be in
she still likes all the girls, but yeah, absolutely zero love for management, called them lame

>>113529733
She's being bullied and threatened

You phasefags lambast and drag hololive over the coals and when your own faggots graduate saying the same shit you pretend nothing is wrong and management can do no harm. Fucking amazing hypocrisy here.

She didn't stream. Disagreement with management is a cope to make this seem neutral. She just didn't put in the work. By the sounds of it she's also difficult to work with

>>113531391
This is probably half true, but not quite for the reasons of "management told her she could NEVER do it". She probably wanted to do it, but either she got told that the company wouldn't fund every single one of her vanity projects when they need to support their other (more popular) talents, or she wanted to do one with a 3D model immediately and her manager told her
>There is too many people ahead of you Anya. We still need to make models for Euphoria and the other Invaders, you'll need to wait before we give you a proper model.

>>113531619
what happened to talent freedom?

>>113531619
she's not the brightest girl, it's not hard to believe she either assumed she'd be allowed to keep doing business as usual after they scouted her or someone in management "tricked" her into thinking she'd have more liberties than she actually did.

>>113530980
there is no way you typed this with a straight face

>>113531555
If this is true, she's a moron

>>113531126
>around 5 talents completely got their balls cut off due to phasecon sponsor rules
missed this.. mind filling me in?

Is fishman ever going to learn that you cannot appease these mentally ill women? He gambled and won with Shiina, but every time after that has been a failure.

>>113531682
Are the "sponsors" in the room with us right now, rat?

>>113531930
there's 100+ dramafag videos about the jelly situation on youtube

phasecon needed sponsors, sakana sold out, corporate sponsors demanded corporate changes to phase connect, sakana prioritized the sponsors over the talents

>>113531996
i literally heard it from nyana myself, are you retarded

>>113532058
She seems really reasonable and trustworthy.

>>113531733
she didn't stream because phase wasn't the same company she applied to by the time she debuted
the whole company shifted in corporate realignment

Origins remains undefeated.

>>113532101
im going to trust the multiple people that complained about changes to phase connect

>>113530717
Well it is worth considering that Phase hasn't even posted an official announcement.
For every other graduation they posted it before but for this one they STILL haven't. Kind of seems like Anya did this on her own.

>>113532109
So she was an unprofessional child, got it

>>113532194
If Phase let Anya pick her own graduation announcement/graduation day without approval, then it kinda destroys her narrative that Phase is "too corpo" they are so loose they dont even care when a talent leaves.

>>113530907
indies don't bother to form units and branding so they never get anywhere just sitting around bleeding out until they quit. They need the group to circulate viewership, foster a community, and advertise so they can keep the replacement rate green. Whales are helping but the industry is dying losing 1/2-1/3rd of their viewership year over year.

>>113532240
No you don't get what I'm saying. I think Anya just went ahead and did it.

They even announced Clara's graduation, and that was a very messy breakup.

>>113532109
>>113531733
I'm gonna say it's both.
>Anya didn't like what the company had become, but refused to cooperate at all, didn't do work unless absolutely necessary, and wasted the company's time and resources for nothing, running away almost exactly 6 months after her late debut.
>The company's realignment was overly-corporate and alienated talent, but a lot of it was probably necessary evil, and they were still within their rights to expect Anya to at least fill out her 1 year contract. Instead, they let her loose with less than 2 months' of work to her name and just over halfway through her contract.

I think the real problem here isn't even Anya herself, it's that indies wanting to apply to Phase in the future are going to reconsider because of this. If I'm an indie or freshly-disposed ex-corpo, I'm seeing Phase nepo-hire some idiot that jumped the line, only to completely squander the opportunity. This event isn't as catastrophic as other corpo events, but it will still have a chilling effect on the already-strained EN talent pool that Phase has access to.

>>113532194
Maybe they want to wait until the day is over not to fully overshadow Lumi's big event?
Normies always flock the fastest to official announcement

>>113532159
sakana genuinely struck diamonds with them. they're the only reason the company has held on this long

>>113532304
>indies don't bother to form units and branding
There are a ton of indie units, what the hell are you talking about?

>>113532226
professional? that's not even part of the argument
phase connect is not worth most of the talents time and energy, most of them would do better as indies
>>113532304
>indies don't bother to form units and branding
some do, but it's not the end all be all of content creation
there are singular indies that make more money than all of phase connect combined

phase connect is not growing anymore, industry wise is everyone is getting hit, but as a pure cost analysis position, there are more arguments to stay indie than to stay corporate
corporate at this moment is more subject to risk and change at this time

>>113532430
Lumi's event already came and went, I don't think it being one post further down the company Twitter timeline would change much

>>113532427
>it's that indies wanting to apply to Phase in the future are going to reconsider because of this
it's not like Quest exists

>>113532437
small ones that haven't gotten anywhere. Nobody else got close to vshojo that were actually able to sustain an ecosystem, grow, and take them to higher heights.

>>113532451
They do but many don't. Large groups are needed to keep viewers in the ecosystem to grow a community that turns into organic advertisement. Otherwise they get what most indies are seeing the last 3 years of slowly slipping away because people keep leaving to watch others during dead hours and eventually stop coming back. I'm happy that nene, etc. can manage but it's everyone.

>>113532585
>Quest debuted May 2025
>Saga debuted October 2025 (Anya debuted January 2026)
I genuinely don't know what this post is meant to imply.

>>113532427
Oh yeah, all several thousand applicants that they get every gen will just reconsider because some lazy menhera chuuba left after 6 months.
Nevermind her gen doing pretty well (and Nitty is doing fantastically) and nevermind Quest all doing incredibly well.

>>113532427
>indies wanting to apply to Phase in the future are going to reconsider
You give a lot of faith to women who dont think more than a week ahead in their life.

>>113532713
>>113532701
Sorry, you're right. I forgot where I was for a moment.

>>113532635
>Unironically using Vshojo as an example
Retarded or fresh out of a coma?

>>113532427
Reconsider literally what? When you're going corpo you have to woman the fuck up and accept that they're a bigger target on your back for perms. You're the new lowest on the pecking order for large projects if you're going to use internal staff. Indies that can't walk into that with both eyes wide open are asking to get raped.

>>113532751
It didn't work out but it's the correct direction. They were growing each other and passing their viewership around to retain viewers instead of dissipating.

>>113531494
>its all lazy puerto rican jokes

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Didn't she just return from a vacation, a pretty long one. If I remember had multiple hiatus before then too.

im glad she is leaving. she was weird and it didnt feel like she belonged. I can understand needing more time before debut but she didnt try to make up for it at all. she was out for like 3 months, did a few token streams when she finally debuted and then went on a hiatus. when she got back from that she immediately did a donothon or something and expected people to go along with it, like is this bitch serious? she put in no effort and just expected everyone to love her like nitty. or maybe she expected pippa to bring her into the old gal's clique for a free ride, who knows.

>>113533010
twitch streamers are a bit different from the 3-5 streams/wk cgdct streamer experience

>>113532427
>Phase wants to do cons and other big projects and has been wanting to do them for a long time.
>That means being serious and more corporate to make these things a reality
>Indie joins and doesn't care about the big picture and is all me me me.
If Phase didn't care about anything and had no big projects or ambitions then I could see Anya's point but it is meaningless since Phase wants to do big things.

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>>113529601
Dancing Puerto Ricans in Phase Connect are a lot like Highlanders: there can only be one.

>>113533230
Wow.
She was Saba potential and Phase blew it.

>>113533189
They're even willing to flame a talent so they can please the cosplay whores hired for the cons, now that's ambition. A sign of big things coming

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESEEE.
Parrot Cuckmilo Caicedo faggot, we got too cocky...

>>113533291
They share the same artist so they're art sisters?

if Hina ever comes back, she will have completely missed Anya even existing.

>>113533677
So she will have missed nothing.

>>113533334
I will never get over the fact that Sakana hired the exact same petty Californian bitches who'd already tried to sabotage Phase multiple times at Offkai to run his convention for him.

>>113532427
anya never thinks ahead never from the streams I watched before she joined phase she always decided on the spot what to do. since filian is gone she has no one who can relate to her levels of autistic nature she gets scared easily and can't handle pressure.

>phase connect officail twitter are quite about this no statement about anya gradaution
GRIM!!!

>>113533435
he's never making a video on this... if he hasn't roped himself by now

>>113533677
>Hina
who?

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>>113533661
>saba same mama
>behave like saba


KEK!!

>>113533855
Probably don't even know yet
>Doesn't even know how phase citizen worked
Expect a naked dogeza retraction stream on monday when she gets beaten black and blue for being a retard.

>>113533863
he is married

>>113533920
it's sad, she does good work for these duds

>>113533855
>they don't even care
lmao

>>113533920
the irony just like sana and vesper

>>113533939
>free advertisement
>freed up slots
>new art is more lucrative than a touchup every 2 years
seems like a win

I am guessing she wanted out on debut, and Phase said not so fast we just dumped tens of thousands of dollars on you.
They then worked out an agreement that she had 6 months to recoup as much of her debut as she could to pay back (IE the random donothon), and if she did a minimum amount of streams and hit a certain percentage of money paid back they would release her from her contract after 6 months and call everything square and everybody goes their separate ways

All she wanted was a 3D concert, why couldn't they accommodate her? They blew so much money on Phase Con

>>113533920
anya at least had the balls to tell her fans she's done with this gig. where the fuck is saba?

>>113533922
It's entirely possible she impulsively sent the announcement and Phase have nothing prepared and it's the weekend so they're still figuring what to do

>>113534055
if you want a 3D concert, you have to actually be around and serve your time.
in hololive you have to wait a year. she didn't even want to wait 6 months

>>113530980
Phase has a terrible reputation thanks to the very public shitflinging you guys do on all platforms.

>>113534083
Phase is busy figuring out their offkai booth schedule and are likely in transit to San Jose.
This is also kind of a smart time to have her announce the graduation because it will be buried by Offkai nobody is paying attention to anything this week besides Offkai

>>113534036
the numbers add up and her member streams because contracts are usually a year but for early termination and not streaming for a majority of her time in the company need to recoup the losses. there is never hate towards anyone in the company

>>113534083
I'm strongly leaning towards it cause she doesn't know stuff she'd know if she went through it officially. What's more weird about it is Pippa showed up to support her so clearly she has someone to talk to about it. I just have no clue what the fuck to do with this latina retard

>>113534055
when she had her concert with Filian she got all the attention she wanted and the bills from it. anya didn't show anything for the company and we don't know what happened behind the scenes

>>113534036
>They then worked out an agreement that she had 6 months to recoup as much of her debut as she could to pay back
Nice fanfic you got there, don't forget to add the part where she also had to sell a kidney to pay Sakana back for the Anya model and earn back her freedom

>>113529601
>the reason I joined Phase in the first place was 3D concerts
I seriously hope this wasn't the reason that would be infuckingsane.. brother you were around for 6 months you didn't even give them a chance.

Hime Lia Lumi had to wait 3 YEARS and that is with them all hitting 100k and still having to wait. Just because they had to wait that long doesnt mean things should not get faster and wait times a bit shorter, but my point is be reasonable + it will be worth the wait

>>113529664
mating press

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>>113532304
Indies are doing fine. Phase is so small it doesn't even make it on the chart.

>>113530527
>>113530532
Blame phase management then for setting the schedule.
They could've easily moved it forwards or back a few days but decided to announce it today.

>>113529601
Joining Phase was a big mistake. She already averaged 200 to 300 viewers and an indie. She should have just kept collabing with Phase girls as an indie. Now most of the girls won't collab with her and she'll have a huge amount of permanent antis, (Phase fans are extremely good at this). But alas.

>>113534943
>She already averaged 200 to 300 viewers and an indie.
she was in the 90 range when she was doing regular content and not relying on big collab partners

but the rest of your post is right.

>>113530907
Name a single phase vtuber thar isn't pippa.

>>113530200
>thinking dramaniggers will ever shit on phase
lol
lmao

>>113532030
Changes like what? Not being racist on main or saying shit that could get them sued?

>>113529671
she really is saba clone kek

>>113534943
I will be astonished if Pippa and Mari don't collab with her in the future.

>>113535136
if Nyana is able to collab with Phase girls, that further shows that her graduation reasoning is kinda full of shit and that Phase is not some bad company.

>>113534994
Maid Mint

>>113535026
yeah

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That Title, the thumbnail, No official post yet.

Anya is really trying to burn bridges after something terrible happened in Phase.

>>113534055
explain to me why a girl who, at that point when recording would have needed to be done, had been around for 3 months should have gotten to do a 3D concert? not even hololive has that kind of turnaround.

>>113535172
The only times I've heard from phase telling them to cool it was pippa using her model with kirsche in a drinking collab and Filian to shut up and not cancelbait shiina's easily baited autism.
Nyana didn't even say phase was a bad company and from the explanation it was pretty clear nyana didn't understand what she was getting into or where she fit in the calendar of larger priorities.
3d, etc. has taken 5 years for some girls. Other stuff has already been in motion or takes larger priority. And it's already well known that phase management is overworked so it was retarded if she expected more help than getting to use a corpo email. Now that she's gone she's just going to do the same concert shit so why leave? Why blame it for a rut instead of working out the details and doing the legwork so it's ready to go when time can be made for it. Or doing it on her own anyway which is what she'll have to do anyway now. It's so assbackwards woman shit.

>>113529601
Sticky doko ?

>>113535398
>literalwho
>Didn't stream
>Couldn't keep our dick out of her mouth in the announcement
For what though?

>>113535385
>has taken 5 years for some girls
it's all over the place.
invaders wish + runie got theirs in 2 years.
jp origins took 5.
en origins took 3.
alias took 3.

>>113535398
Its not Lia so no sticky

>>113535398
Only holo talents get stickies for graduation now

>>113535478
Exactly. You're not going to walk in the door, get 3d and ball. There's no way that could have been the expectation so what the fuck nyana?

Alright I haven't been paying attention to her at all since her genmates debut. Tell me how I should feel about this.

>>113529601
I pity her. Pippa ropped her in with lies, only to let her to rot.

>>113534036
>I am guessing she wanted out on debut
That's a cope sakana could have easily pulled the brakes and not hire her and debut with someone else. As long as the model isn't used it can be repurposed anyone claiming to be the model pilot on twitter is spreading rrats it's fake news etc, etc etc

>>113529664
Where's the JDON?

rrats on the street say she wanted to pivot into a christian vtuber after the demon possessions and sakana said no.

>>113535586
Saddened but uninterested. Like when your surgery patient doesn't do their physical recovery so now they have a permanent limp but it's no longer your problem

>>113535787
Stop reminding me of that stupid raincoat thing the pope put out

I'm an indiefag that avoids corpos on principle but what I'm gathering from this thread is that she foolishly thought "but THIS corpo is different!" and couldn't handle the reality check that no, it wasn't. Can't really say I feel sorry for her in that situation; you can blame sponsors and management shakeups all you want but this story was only ever going to end one way.

>>113535755
THERE IS NO JDON

>>113536219
She wanted to be in concerts without streaming or being part of Phasecon. I don’t know what she was expecting when she put in so little work

>>113536219
What you need to gather is that she's unable to think ahead even when walked through the coming year.

>Pick any Anya stream
>Click into a random point in the stream
>She's sitting there bug-eyed not saying a single word
Who finds this entertaining? It's just the model bringing people in, right?

>>113536838
The few times she talks she says something funnny.

>>113536838
That's every phase stream honestly

Here's what actually happened
>Nyana saw the Origins 3D concerts in 2024
>signed up for Phase Connect so she could get support for her concerts
>asked when she was getting her 3D
>got told she had to wait her turn after Euphoria and Invaders Quest got theirs
>had a melty and decided to graduate
That is what she meant by management "stifling her creativity"

>>113536943
>Here's what actually happened
>*Headcanon*

>>113536943
....but she could have used her own 3d model to do the same exact concerts she was already doing while waiting for mocap 3d....

What happened to the hard-working go-getter super-tardwrangler who managed to make concerts involving tons of vtubers and not fuck it up?

>>113531688
You mean, like, here? Or on X and stuff? Because I've seen some absolutely VENOMOUS posts on X about it. Some people are real shitters.

>>113537016
>Hey what if I have this poor retard who is definitely cutting corners shove needles in me
>Oh no how could I get meningitis from fucking around and finding out despite literally every warning

>>113537016
>make concerts involving tons of vtubers and not fuck it up?
Are you fucking kidding? Her last concert as nyana was a massive and horrendous fuckup which mindbroke her so hard, that she never attempted another one since.

>>113537230
>Company buillshits you
>Everything goes to hell

>>113536838
Half her streams are reaction or watchalongs

>>113537256
i dont even think phase had enough time to bullshit her if they wanted to

>>113537277
The company she worked with for that last concert

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>>113529601
uh oh cumbud melty

>gets nepohired
>gets given all the resources to succeed
>fucks it up anyways

Why are women lime this

>>113537265
Okay, you say that like it's a bad thing. Like it or not, a LOT of EN tubers like react content and a lot of them got to know vtubing-or streaming in general- through that. And Banana Cat's schtick with her react streams was objectively funny as shit. People LOVE to feel like they're watching something with someone, and "chat suggests shit for me to watch" content is popular. Tons of big vtubers this board splooges over every day do react content. They even react to the same shit. Look at today. Today the meta was to react to Streamer University. The problem is obviously not with react content or with piracy.
There's way more substance to the whole "didn't stream often enough" angle and to her just being less energetic now. But seeing like 50 "HURR SHE REACT TO CONTENT" posts in one evening is just dumb.

>>113532030
>>113535026
Jelly was fucking retarded on twitter anyway, unbecoming of a vtuber and deserved to get told to stfu. If that's all the "rules" are that people are bitching about it's a good change.

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>>113535026
>Not being racist on main or saying shit that could get them sued?
when did they even say something about that? damn westeners (including chinks like fishman) really have their priorities upside down

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>>113537130
>I've seen some absolutely VENOMOUS posts on X
show that shit, we want to see the blood of parasites like anya

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>>113536943
>headcannon
>she wasn't even capable of paying for her basic assets

>>113537600
I dont even think the not-streaming-alot/reactslop is a problem at all.
the problem is what were you doing in your spare time? she wasn't working on any projects or having any ambition it seems.
am getting the impression that she showed up thinking she was going to be doing 3d concerts right away, realized it was gonna take 2-3 convention cycles, and then bounced after 6 months.

she did not even consider that you can likely speed up the 3d process by showing effort like runie did. if you do good shit, you will be noticed behind the scenes. if you show you are working hard for a creative stream (and then show that you are willing to work very hard for concerts) they will think of you for spots because they trust you to not blow it.

>>113537001
Don't shoot the messenger, she's the one who said in her graduation announcement that she joined Phase Connect "to do 3D stuff"

>>113535299
"getting told to work is le terrible"

>>113532030
>phasecon needed sponsors, sakana sold out, corporate sponsors demanded corporate changes to phase connect

None of that happened. first phase con was entirely company self funded. If you're talking about the larger ecosystem of Phase Connect for sponsors they're all Asian companies who are not located in the U.S. or Canada.

>>113537319
Based

>>113537809
Very smart, she definitely couldn't do 3d stuff as an indie. She never had a 3d model or anything like that.

I don't think she realized that several of the streamers either made their own 3d models, had fans make their 3d models, or bought 3d models. Pretty sure only gen 1 officially have their models, right?

>>113537394
>>gets given all the resources to succeed
NOT 3d BECAUSE YOUR NOT PART OF origin

>>113537809
I'm not gonna tell her what to do, but if 3D was the straw that broke her she really should have had some patience.
There is so much she could have done and gameplanned for. Could have pitched an idol group with similar minded girls like Lia, Hime, Runie.

>>113537877
>Pretty sure only gen 1 officially have their models, right?
No. almost 20 girls now have models.
Phase has progressed far enough as a company that they do real nice 3D debuts and soon are gonna be doing sololives.

>>113537908
alias status?

>>113537230
> Her last concert as nyana [] she never attempted another one since
her last concert was literally 2 weeks before graduating???

>>113537908
Except for everyone else in Phase having unofficial 3ds because they actually have fanbases and actually stream.

I mean fuck man didn't Nyana make a shitload of 3D models for her beach concert? Like the Wemi swimsuit one? If she devoted even a small amount of her time she could have built up a pretty sweet model by now.

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>>113534674
>kurosanji somehow still above hololive
yeah I can smell the absolute bullshit behind this chart

>>113537967
By "officially have their models" i mean 3D debut. Like models they can actually use.
Origins have had 3D models for years now but never for themselves.

>>113530527
ohhh so thats why Dizzy was so pissed in her memba/vent stream

>>113537989
yes jelly and remi. With Bibi, nitty, nyana, and the other girls they can get it together.

>>113537908
list of girls who have 3d
>pippa, tenma, uruka, lia, iori, nasa, michiru, shiina, panko, rie, airi, erina, remi, lumi, dizzy, jelly, ember, runie

>>113537977
in 3d. did you miss phasecon?

I hope Sakana plans 3D concerts for Quest, Saga and Euphoria later this year just to spite her.

>>113538040
>>113537908
>NOT 3d BECAUSE YOUR NOT PART OF origin

>>113538025
>By "officially have their models" i mean 3D debut
this is a made up construct
nigga i have literally seen over half the company in 3d
you make your 3d debut the first time you do mocap 3d. that is your 3d debut.

>Pippa AI gen shitpost stream gives birth to flavr and Banana Cat in turn
>/here/tuber
>Kirsche is Banana Cat's first big raid from a big vtuber
>Banana Cat buys adspace on 4chan itself
>Banana Cat repeatedly signal-boosted by Filian, ChaCha, Rye, Jelly, Mari, etc.
>Banana Cat consistently gangstalked by every /vt/-Twitter-TVA schizo on the internet, to this day, half of them apparently not even knowing half the lore
>"DURR WHO IS THIS BITCH AND WHY AM I HEARING ABOUT HER? "
I need you to understand that all of this is a direct result of 4chan itself. The whole thing. You did this. There's not a single link in this chain of events that wasn't you chuds either directly or tangentially. None of this happens without a very specific intersection of subcultures and mentalities in one place. You specifically. You did this.

>>113534920
You're assuming management even knew she was going to announce that she's graduating today
There's still been no announcement on the official Phase Connect account btw

>>113538097
You have seen over half the company in 3D models that were fan-made, purchased, or made for themselves.
Only Origins have actual 3D models that are actually from Phase.

>>113538086
>I hope Sakana plans 3D concerts for gens that are liable to fall apart at any moment because new gens are not trustworthy and will bail the first time another girl gets a fart crosswise
Anya, Hina, Saya, Clara, Memory have likely set their gens back

>>113538152
>"dissagreement with management"
a post like that invites dramaniggers to shit on phase.
is smart to just silently letting her go.

>>113538152
the only ones who paid for their models were Wish because 1. they are invaders and own their IPs so they have to pay for their shit and 2. they insisted on doing a concert. Which, again, shows how flexible Phase is if you have an idea you can make things happen.

>>113529601
Honestly good riddance, she wasted a golden opportunity and took a spot someone else could have used to not even last a fucking year.

>>113538152
out of date, wish and alias also have official models

>>113530527
How did she fuck anything for lumi lmao shut the hell up. The day isn't sacred. lumi stopped streaming almost 4 hours before this announcement. If lumi gave a shit she wouldn't have done her anniversary at 8AM like a regular stream, fucking bitch.

>>113538226
If you can't succeed without the corpo label you're unable to put in the introspection and effort needed to succeed with it.

>>113538231
Really? Wow! When was the 3D debut stream?
Oh yeah didn't happen because they are basically only allowed to rent the models for pre-recorded concerts.

>>113538111
>you chuds
Why are you here outsider

>>113538111
I refuse to take responsibility for her not hitting "Go Live" for 4 of the 6 months she was active in the company.
I also refuse to take responsibility for her doing whatever nonsense caused her debut to delay 3 months.

>>113538217
Think you replied to the wrong post, but I agree.
Honestly Anya saying that pissed me the fuck off and made me an anti. That wasn't Clara-levels of scorched earth but she is definitely burning bridges.

>>113532194
Non-zero chance the reaction to the Jelly reprimand and Clara's graduation made them institute a new policy of not posting negative news on Twitter

when Anya was hired to Phase they had 5 3D models in the company.
on the day of her graduation, Phase has 18.
They nearly quadrupled the amount of 3D models in that time.

A shame she didnt have some patience.

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https://youtu.be/ZYN5fC6T-cw

today I will remind rhem

>>113538288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGV1VIfcbt4

>>113538217
Honestly at this point, if a talent from an established corpo claims she's graduating for "Disagreements with Management", and there's no hard evidence to the contrary, I'm assuming that she threw a tantrum about some probably innocuous thing.

>>113538347
Fucking wannabe Gura
She even copied Gura's streaming frequency and health issues. Too bad Nyana wasn't around in 2020 where she could have just fallen into success like Gura did.

>>113538288
brother what are you even arguing here?
Anya specifically wanted professional mo-cap 3D concert experience, NOT using her 3D model for a warudo concert and play around VR slop she has been there and done that it doesn't get her dick hard anymore.

would Anya have even traveled to Japan to record? I have my doubts given how flakey she is. I think she likes the idea of doing 3D concerts, but wants to do it from home and not going across the world and having to take dance rehersal with other girls and work with a choreographer in person.

the disagreement with management
>Nyana: I want to do 3D ASAP. Like, by the next con season in 6 months.
>Phase: it takes time to get the model made, and you need to prove it to us you are reliable and trustworthy enough that you wont waste the model by disappearing after one time
>Nyana: I'm leaving

im not seeing pee or brap fetish

>>113538477
Yeah. But wasting all the time and money on making a 3D model for a flaky half-ass retard is not a smart business decision.

It's as if Anya overtly did not care about being a vtuber in Phase connect at all, she literally only wanted 3D.

>>113529601
I cannot for the life of me figure why they went ahead with debuting her after all the drama at debut. It was the perfect excuse to back out and they didn't take it. Like dodging a bullet and then grabbing the gun and shooting yourself with it.

Can't wait to hear Lucy Pyre's retarded dogshit take about this situation.

>>113531126
>/tv/shit out of nowhere with absolutely zero provocation
Fucking cringe lmao

>>113538620
there should be no hottakes.
it is pretty black and white
>girl is unhappy after 6 months and wants to leave
>phase agrees to release her from her contract 6 months early
>both parties move on

>>113531762
This ain't vshitshow brother.

>>113538620
>giving lucy views when it's not a collab she's behaving in

>>113538111
I never partook in any of that because I don't watch your indie/phase/small corpo/niji garbage.

>>113538602
I think someone was talking about it briefly and said Sakana was doing a lot for Anya to help her debut. So he was just being a nice guy I guess?

>>113538754
He literally paid FalseEyeD to shill Anya on his own channel for god knows what reason and False was forced to graduate because of it. So she took multiple people down with her

>>113531682
what rules? it's not like she was saying jelly tier shit as nyana

>phase still hasn't put out an official announcement
I'm starting to think she didn't actually tell anyone she was graduating.

>>113538839
Tbh there's a slim but non-zero chance she retracts her graduation after someone talks some sense into her

>>113529601
>disagreements with management
at this point it think this line is just some default line they say and not the actual reason

>>113531555
>phase was more corpo than she liked, too much management meddling, risk assessment shit
Funny because a lot of the girls have said the complete opposite. Phase pretty much gives them free rein as long as they actually stream and don't cause any unnecessary drama.

>does nothing
>dies
hm

>>113538839
I could see it since she's never been in a corpo before. Probably thought sending a DM to a random manager that she's graduating and setting up an announcement was enough

>>113530532
People were insistent this wasn't going to be a graduation announcement because there was no way she would be allowed to overlap these things with bad news. I notice they're all real quiet now.

>>113538888
That would be really fucking funny but I don't think Phase even wants her around tbdesu

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Yo Parrot put me in the Video you fat fuck.

>>113539002
Put me on the video with this anon wife.

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PHASER CONNECTIONS WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ANYA STAY AS A TALENT....
EEEEEEEH! YOU'RE WRONG!

>>113539127
Junko should have been the 6th saga

>>113534055
She could've shown up to Phase Con in the first place, heaps of the talents got in on the 3D concerts there.

>>113539127
>>113539161
You know a talent, Anya, fucking sucks ass when the damn managers are more memorable and entertaining. Maybe that's why she had a disagreement, she got too mogged by big junko in the trunko and sperged out.

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>>113539127
Junko my beloved

>>113539219
Aiko mogs her too to be desu

>>113539219
All I ever wanted her to do was grab the girls without 3d and do concert and other not"3d" 3d slop

Origins and Alias have to be shaking their heads that every branch besides them has deserters.
everyone who came after them came in with everything they could want or need and a huge head start, and they still abandon.

>>113539358
It's a shame because the rest of Saga all seem like really good picks. Maybe having a 6th talent in that gen was a bridge too far.

>>113538888
Nice quads.
At this point I don't see Phase being generous enough to let her retract her graduation. The writing is on the wall that she just isn't a good fit for a corpo with how she took months to debut after her genmates and has done far less.

>>113530583
>continue on as nyana and that's what all of her fans wanted anyways
I honestly hated the idea of her joining Phase.
She was more productive as Nyana and was able to work well with other indy vtubers.
And it was a bad omen her joining was around the same time VShojo shut down.
Most of them had to learn how to strive as indy talent when she had already had it refined.
Seemed like a bad move to join a corpo right as a corpo showed they weren't the best idea for everyone to join.

>>113538013
it's a jp chart, that's why. japs love nijisanji and have no idea what the fuck a 'phase connect' is.

>>113539002
Parrot couldn't even make one on the Jelly/Clara situation. Bro is NEVER making a video on this.

>>113539600
Nyana has also probably lost her spot in indie sphere as the exclusive "adjacent small corpo event girl."
She no longer has Filian for help. She potentially no longer has Phase talents for help. Vallure is dead and gone. ex-Vshojo girls, Mariya, Elia, VSMP etc run that scene now.

Like her or not, her concerts were ahead of its time in terms of the small corpo indie sphere. Now everybody is doing them every weekend and cons. Hell someone did one tonight.

>>113538808
Wha
False was gone long before Anya was even announced

>>113538343
>A shame she didnt have some patience.
This is literally the same argument nijis used for pomu and selen

>>113538121
>You're assuming management even knew she was going to announce that she's graduating today
And if they didn't, that's still their fault for not communicating with her.

>>113539768
Fuck them for what they did to Pomu
I'm Pomu
We Are Pomu

>>113539518
When you're dealing with corporate contracts, there is no "generous" anymore. They might not want to press legal action against her since it would be a waste of time and money, but they've got no reason to keep her contract in place. She's a risk now (and frankly has been since her psychosis episode.)

>>113539621
it's always funny to see this graph or some version of it posted because it's obviously always done in bad faith. They never show Phase connect's market share in the EN market.

>>113539768
she was in phase for 6 months and the very first thing she says before saying she is graduating is that she joined to do 3d concerts
if she was in for 2+ years, then fair enough start throwing your weight around and say it's time i get 3d or i'm not gonna renew

>>113539696
I think she's driven enough to rebuild and reconnect with the indy world of tubers again
I'll support Nyana. I believe in her.

>>113539839
i am sure she will reconnect she will be just fine. already is aligned with the lulu thing. but what I mean is that the volume of these indie/small corpo mass events now is so frequent that they dont matter anymore. when nyana was doing it, it was the only thing of its kind. it's like when pam did her christmas concerts it was special because it was THE christmas concert, but now 20 christmas concerts with the same people who do Pams singing the same exact songs popped up and who cares about any of them? nobody wins.

like a year ago Nyana tried to get her concert that had shit loads of huge names at offkai, and they rejected her because she was not prestigious enough. have you looked at this years offkai concerts this year? it is embarrassing. it means nothing to do do a concert at offkai anymore.

had Nyana just stayed an indie, she would be having a 3d concert at offkai this year I guarantee it because they would have begged for it this time

I remember when it became clear she was joining Phase the question was "what's in it for her?". She was a rising indie star, organizing events, making a name for yourself. When you're at that point, why give up a cut to someone else? Did she want to have more resources to produce events? Was she tired of the indie grind and just wanted to cash a paycheck?

I guess it turns out she forgot to ask herself the same question.

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where are the mass graduations? i was promised there would be mass graduations.

>>113539830
I don't get how you join a corpo with a goal and don't have that all planned and hashed out before even joining, maybe even in the contract.

You don't join a corpo with the goal of doing 3d concerts and then 6 months later go waaa they won't let me do 3d concerts off the bat. Did she not ask about the timeline before joining? Did Phase reneg on some verbal agreement?

>>113539743
He literally had a video of her pinned on his channel dude

think this is just a rare time in vtubing where both parties are happy not to be working together anymore, and there shouldnt be hard feelings either way hopefully.

>>113540073
nyana said she was a big phase fan girl and wanted to be in phase connect as her dream corpo.
what that actually meant is "i want to do big girl 3d immediately (eventhough she should have seen how long 3d roleout was taking)" which was unrealistic. if she wanted quick 3d pump and dump, she should have auditioned for v4m.

It's been hours and still nobody in phase is acknowledging it.
It's like they aren't even aware.

>>113540149
If she just wanted to be in Phase and do 3d I wonder why she couldn't have just kept her IP like mari did, then she'd already have her existing 3d to use while waiting on Phase's normal schedule to get a corpo-quality model. The new model is dogshit anyway

She sabotaged Lumi with this timing

>>113534674
>Indies are doing fine
If an indie makes it good, they have way more followers than corpos, but I dunno about their views.
It is way harder tho.

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She was too good for you roody poo faggots
Mamabichos 4 Life

>>113540097
I think she overestimated Phase's ability to do 3D concerts, essentially they do what they can with what they can afford as a relatively small corpo. She probably saw the first concert they did and thought that treatment was coming to every single talent soon.

>>113540244
You make no sense

>>113540207
Phase doesn't like to bring attention to things that make them look bad. Ignoring drama is their #1 strategy and it almost always works because most of the time people don't give a shit about them in the first place. The one time they didn't was the Jelly thing because that was actually going viral and could have killed them if they didn't stop it.

>>113540252
Again: when Anya was hired, Phase had 5 3d models. in 6 months time they now have 18, nearly quadruple the amount. Phase has been doing insane amounts of 3D too in that time. Only hololive has done more 3D than them since 2024.

>>113538026
tldr?, was it recent?, or was when she started talking about suicide?

lumi and lia have to be annoyed at the timing of this. imaging announcing your graduation on one girls 5th anni, and then graduating on anothers birthday. it's just as hell whomever made that call.

>>113540308
My point is she thought that 3d concerts were going to happen for everyone soon whenever they want. The reality is, they have to fund and plan them and there is some wait time for newer members.

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isnt she literally a schizo

>>113540367
She had a spinal and brain infection man. The fatality rates are like 60%

>>113530200
0 they all on Phase payroll

>>113539829
I mean phase is still a small portion of the eng market but honestly is the only other corpo other than holo in that market especially sicne niji and mythic's implosion over their malpractice

>>113540367
Yeah she’s just a shitty lazy schizo. Management told her she can’t illegally stream anime on twitch, she can’t do religious material(they were nice enough to allow her to do members streams of it), and 3d concerts would take time and she flipped out. 90% of her streams were her watching something and once every 40 minutes (chat is this true). Everyone that worked on her old events with her said she is insufferable, unintelligent, and lazy

>>113540365
and my point is Phase has made a big jump since she got hired in terms of 3D support and has shown real ability with 3D concerts. I think she appraised their ability correctly, but she lost sight of the timeline and what is realistic.

it's like Anya missed it. Like a girl literally did an actual live 3D live, they do 3D debuts now, they do 9+ girl production dance numbers, full gen concerts, birthday lives, some girls have 3d outfits, the 2 3D concerts at 2 venues on 2 continents in 7 days last year. This cool shit is happening in your company, and it will be you one day but you have to make it happen and work towards it.

>>113540367
I still don't buy into her being actually schizophrenic. She may not be crushing it mentally but this feels more like what someone thinks a crazy person would act or write like.

>>113540461
I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that Anya had an absurd expectation that literally no one could live up to. She was expecting professional concert production back to back with her at the helm

>>113540434
>Everyone that worked on her old events with her said she is insufferable, unintelligent, and lazy
proof? Cause I've heard all of /pcg/ say you're male pregnant

>>113540525
>with her at the helm
what do you mean her at the helm?

>>113540538
Planning and organizing like her previous one, except this time she has access to a professional 3d studio

>>113529601
The bananas are peeling...

>>113540090
Lia already said that was just a rrat

>>113540636
Lia said a lot of things that turned out to be lies, and I just realized I'm confusing Lia for Lumi so I actually don't know if Lia has lied about anything.

>>113540461
Do you think Phase is anywhere near profitable?
There cranking out all these 3D concerts, but do they really earn enough to justify it? I understand wanting to do cool things for the fun of it, but it doesn't feel sustainable.