>>113589032
One of the indie girl recently posted her revenue and she had a 0 view channel for the longest time. She hit her peak 3 view status with a fucking Terraria Game and kept the momentum up so if you wanna succeed keep grinding

>>113589032
Literally me.
After 6 months of 0 to a max of 2 viewers I finally reached double digits (11 viewers) when playing uma musume.
Guess doing popular stuff is key to succeed

>>113589032
no...

how does one find 0 views

>>113589594
Beats me, but a handful of people find my bullshit when I stream games so its possible.
>>113589230
Yeah, you either have to chase trends or be really good at one game and play it religiously.
I thought about chasing numbers for a while since you get money at 1k subs but then I saw it doesn't pay shit til like 100,000 subs and I lost interest.
I just play old shit I feel like playing, and sometimes go back to my old vids if I wanna see how I did xyz at that point in time.
It works for me because I don't give a shit, but if you want YouTube or twitch money don't quit your day job. A lot of those big names have corpos behind them.

>>113589594
>search vtuber
>filters
>features: live
>Prioritize: popularity
>scroll to the bottom
The ones without a "watching" tag are currently 0s but you might as well click the 1 or 2 viewers because the person watching them when you sent your search request might not be there anymore.
Most of them are males, ugly models and third world streams though.
Good luck

>>113589594
https://nobody.live/
here you go

>>113589594
just browse twitch bro, beneath the glamourous top are legions upon legions of 0views hoping to get their big break

just turn on your camera and show tits???

>>113590293
And compete with the 50 thousand streamers also doing that?

>>113589836
Wasn't this site but I remember finding a male pngtuber who wasn't too bad on a site like this one.
The reason why he wasn't getting views was pretty clear though, not just him being a male pngtuber but he also had no social media but bluesky.
People always say that getting popular is pure luck but if someone's stuck with 0-1 viewers then they're probably actually doing something wrong.
Every time I see some vtuber complain about not being popular on X or about male vtubers having a debuff they have a default vroid avatar, never stream and make no content.

>>113589594
Twitch
Sort by
Viewers (lowest to highest)

>>113590327
then dont bitch about not having viewers

ESL thread

>>113589594
Set sort by views to ascending under vtuber tag. Most 0views are furfags, troons or hoodie males

>>113589594
Any strategy people give will have the caveat that you then have to check the other platform. Midsized 2 views will normal have both a twitch and youtube but people only watch on one of those.

>>113589163
link?

>>113589836
any similar tool but for jewtube?

>>113590748
you must click all the filters >>113589833

>>113590764
Thanks I'm retarded

>>113590764
>>113590774
>only jap and SEA streaming at this hour
expected
at least now I know how to
thanks again

>>113589230
I'd want to play Realm of the Mad God or A Link to the Past randomizer. That second one would be a problem, though, because every time I go to the Palace of Darkness and that monkey steals my money i instinctively shout nigger.

>>113590932
No wonder you are 0view with such shit game choices

>>113590409
Agreed. There has never been a time I've found a deserted vtuber where it wasn't immediately apparent what the issue was.

>>113589032
Why are you posting me...

To all 0 views don't give up or be discouraged everyone starts the same just keep it up and you'll pick up viewers

>>113590409
The moment I see a chubba has a bluesky account or pronouns is the moment I lose Interest

>see vtuber playing game I like
>they have 2 viewers but no one talking in chat
>open stream and start commenting on the game
>there voice suddenly perks up and they seem more energetic
>they start asking me questions
>can't handle the pressure so I close the tab

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>>113592832
>Vtuber reopens the tab and crawls through the screen
...I was so lonely...

>>113592832
kek

>>113592832
>see 1viewer vtuber
>message: don't give up! you are awesome
>leave without subscribing.

>>113592832
This is why I avoid watching 1views. I cannot be the only person typing in chat, I'm the guy who posts a small interjection or an lol every 10 or 15 minutes, I can NOT carry a conversation unless we're talking about 30 year old games or Kurt Russell's filmography.

I wish tiny vtubers all the best, and I'll be glad to check you out at 20+ viewers when there's at least one attentionwhore to take the heat off. I just can't be the guy who gives your stream purpose, it's too heavy for me.

>oh shit
>new viewer
>oh hi what's up big chungus? what's the poggers today bud
>"would like to see my arts?

>>113599458
>show bob n vageene qt

I actually like my no view streams
basically a lets play and I get numbers on tiktok and shorts I'm happy with at least
but when a new viewer comes in, I have to stop my stupid jokes and commentary to focus on them
That or it's another "BLEEEZ JUST LOOK AT MY ART!" and it's always the stiffest flattest doodles

well, I tried finding some 0views to interact with but twitch refuses to show me anything below 1 viewer. I found 2 interesting 2views tho:
https://www.twitch.tv/bermuda_muda
playing elona rn, she didn't do much so I couldn't tell if it was vanilla or modded. fat voice (kind of); peak aesthetic choices; much like the average 2view, she relies on the few groomers on her chat to fill the dead air
https://www.twitch.tv/silver_dawnbreak
high 2view, grinding warthunder rb, both high tier and ww2, and she's actually good at it; her voice is so high pitched and funky I assume she's using some kind of filter (may even be a guy)

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>>113600813
oh i know muda
followed him on twitter after this image broke vtuber containment

>>113601287
the interaction is kind of disgusting. the stream wasn't bad but this is a massive turn off

you never how things will turn out. I know a vtuber who was a vtuber that was a 1view for 5 years but in the past year got discovered and has been growingly nicely, up to 10 times that with 50 people tuning in now even without raids. 50 is still a small indie but it’s a world of difference from 5.
You never know who who might find or who might find you.

>>113592832
>see vtuber playing game I like
>they have 2 viewers but no one talking in chat
>open stream and start commenting on the game
>there voice suddenly perks up and they seem more energetic
>"no backseating"
>close tab

>>113603805
nerd sniped

>>113598310
>Kurt Russell's filmography
Top 5 Russell kino?

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>>113590932
>Realm of the Mad God
Hearing this game on /vt/ out of all places

>>113589032
Post your channel so I can groom you coward

>>113589032
that's just like me, frfr
>i'm always crying alone

>>113589817
tranny or bro?
what games?
i'd give a bro a view

>>113592832
>be me
>see vtuber ad on the 4chins
>decide to pay her a visit
>she's a 1-2view (15-20 views, MAX, usually below 10)
>she's french
>grit my teeth and decide to give her a chance
>she's still french
>make a comment about how she's french
>she drops her spaghetti and starts going off on me about how the french were the ones that helped america fight the revolution, and all this other stuff
>she couldn't handle banter
>i stop watching her
french people, baka

if you're going to be french, at least be cute like fraiki

>>113594949
>>113598092
lol

>>113589230
>Guess doing popular stuff is key to succeed
no anon, doing stuf in a way thats fun and entertaining is the key to success.
dont do the popular thing, thats the last thing a channel does before it dies.
there are many ways of making things fun, you have to act and speak in a way that draws the attention while retaining that fun atmosphere.

>source
take it from me, i'm a schizo so i know these things
>came to me in a dream

>>113590409
> People always say that getting popular is pure luck but if someone's stuck with 0-1 viewers then they're probably actually doing something wrong.
I haven’t actually started streaming yet but I hope to try vtubing in the future. But my understanding is that it’s impossible to succeed without some luck, in addition to hard work/talent.
The ratio of required luck to hard work/talent varies, but you almost always need some of both to be successful. And you have to work hard to be ready in case you get the opportunity to be lucky.

>>113607128
>But my understanding is that it’s impossible to succeed without some luck, in addition to hard work/talent.
and the secret ingredient, nepotism.

>>113607269
Haha yes, I was counting that as one potential part of luck. And it does seem like many small creators, who didn’t start out with any nepotism connections, are constantly desperately grappling for a potential social ladder climbing opportunity. Trying to make a connection to then step atop it and eventually have their own nepotism. It’s brutal.

>>113589836
>all troons and babinikus
unfortunate.

TFW no biological woman 0view

>>113589594
The whole point is that nobody finds them. That's why they're 0 views

>>113608940
All living women are biological because the word biological refers to all living things. That phrase is a misnomer pushed by ESLs and people desperate to sound intelligent by "appealing to science" without actually knowing anything about science.

>>113598310
Thoughts on his Elvis movie?

>>113589032
Just buy more viewers.

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>>113609357

>>113608940
I used to prowl the Vtuber tag on T*itch back around 2021-ish, you could filter viewers low to high and I found a decent number of 1 view qts. Those days are done now though, they get swarmed by nobody male Vtubers trying to "network" now

>>113603805
zased 2ba

>>113607026
Who is she, I have a goal of collecting all the french vtubers

>>113607128
yeah, i didn't mean to imply that luck isn't a factor for getting popular.
getting popular enough to get out of the 2 view range is mostly luck and the male vtuber debuff is an actual thing but a lot of people will use them as an excuse to give up and bitch on twitter instead of actually looking at their own content or lack of content and seeing what they could change

>>113589032
Found 2 view back in '24
She was streaming for 11 hours
Rambling about random shit
VCRs, little Ceasars, her dogs, Garfield
Only plays animal crossing on GC
Her other viewer leaves
Just me and her
She says shes autistic
Ok...cool?
Says she thinks she was raped as a child
Mhmmmm
Says thunderstorms make her pee herself
Ok...
I tell her ill help get her more viewers
She gets really excited
I never do I never watxh her again
Check on her a few months ago
Hasn't streamed in several month
Highest viewership was 7 back in 2025
RIP

>>113589032
Imagine getting banned for something you said on stream, while having no viewers?

>>113612883
Link please

>>113606885
Bro. Mainly RTS/RPGs. Gonna play an unpopular MMO for what I expect to be 4 to 6 months because I want to.
I like how my three favorite types of games are the most unpopular to watch but I'd rather play what I enjoy than die inside playing a FPS.

There's https://nobody.live/ that autamically fetches a stream on Twitch with 0 views, but it's for all channel. Their code is open source, so theoretically it could be possible to host a version that only grabs channels tagged as vtubers.

>>113589163
>She hit her peak 3 view status with a fucking Terraria Game and kept the momentum up so if you wanna succeed keep grinding
Sounds to me like the grinding has nothing to do with it and picking the right game is the important thing here.

>>113614522
You know, discoverability is so bad that people make LARP accounts and just act like other channels with larp in their channel name to make headway, like, its an entire genre of knockoff.
The entire scene kind of sucks ass across the board. Part of me wonders if I should have just made my own website and hosted my own vids.
>Hey upload to our big ass websites!
>Tons of people! Network and grow!
Yeah whatever.

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Did no one watch Ninja's MasterClass on this?
For real let's examine his rise:
1. Semi-famous from being a Halo pro
2. Gimmick heavy: memorable name. Bright hair and head band kinda go with it.
3. (this is the hard part) Actually skilled. Able to clip his kills and combos that most would find difficult (at that time)
4. Game happens to be very popular
5. A popular rapper sees his clips, likes game, and plays online with him.
Realistically you can try to 2 or 4. But the rest are out of your hands.
There's some streamers like Asmongold that would play super-boring to watch games like World of Warcraft Classic but made it entertaining with his constant chat interactions and esoteric knowledge of the game.
TL;DR
Get a gimmick

>>113614993
Being a vtuber used to be a gimmick. Now you need a gimmick for your gimmick.

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>>113615065
>tfw two gimmicks

>>113614993
I couldn't even come up with a good name, that's how you know you're not fit for this kind of thing.

>>113589032
post your tits and i'll give you 1 view

what are the best games for 1views to gain viewers?

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>>113612933
if you said niggerfaggot on stream, but no one was there to watch it, did you break any rules?

>>113589032
youtube loves reccing me rando 1view channels that are live, wish there was a setting to not see them legit makes me sad lol

>>113619995
shadowverse

>>113619995
friendslop with other vtubers and gachas

>>113620846
I get worried putting "don't recommend this channel anymore" will fuck with them getting pushed by the algorithm. I mean I still do it anyway, but yeah.

>>113622703
i dont think that shit does anything, i keep seeing sport and politics shit on my feeds constantly

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>be pngmaletuber
>actually managed to 2 view a few times playing games well and keep audience too
>work schedule too inconsistent for consistent streaming
I know I can do this but the inconsistency and lack of posting on youtube in a while made me lose alot of motivation to keep going
maybe I'm just scared

>>113622860
what games are you streaming?

>>113622854
It does stop the specific channel from showing up to you, the other shit you keep seeing is likely to do with whatever else you keep watching. You need to curate your watch history to control what you get recommended to some extent.

>>113622934
yeah, some of the recs are pretty random though

>>113622905
I do variety streaming mostly, pretty much playing whatever I'm feeling I think its perfect for me because I genuinely enjoy the game I'm playing and people see that. notable games I've played are
Stellar blade
Hollow knight
Echo point nova
FEAR

>>113623156
pretty sweet, have you done the castlevania collection? tons of content there

>>113623411
Never played castlevania before, I could give it a shot but unfortunately I'm terrible at navigating those types of games the hollow knight playthrough made me very aware of that

>>113623633
i think thats the point of those games, it makes you feel really good when you figure shit out

>>113623699
It does, I do like it, but I'm not sure if its good watching unless you're really good at them or good at yapping for long periods.

>>113619995
anything that
1. stands out from the crowd
2. guys like always assume a majority male audience
and preferably something that isn't too story-driven so viewers aren't discouraged from joining mid-stream. have a variety so you can see what works and what doesn't, and what games give you material to keep the stream rolling (do they have lore? text that you can read out loud to kill dead air? topics to discuss with chat?)
the game choice can get people to click on your stream, but you have to work to keep them there

btw I spent one hour looking for interesting 0views again today but couldn't find any. best thing I found was this
>https://www.twitch.tv/mikanovas
(re-?) playing morrowind (openmw), seemed to know the game somewhat; I couldn't tell if afab or not, there was another foid with her, and their main topic through the stream was: which characters from the game they would like to fuck. their favorites were the obese dwemer with leprosy and his caretaker (the incestuous pedophile)

>>113624437
most people just want some background noise these days so anything goes

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>>113589032
>find 0view with cute avatar
>actually fun and happy to see me join
>donate a dollar
>the name on “her” bank account is a male name
I mean, it could have been her dad or she actually being a he but the thought of that person being her boyfriend or husband feels worse than anything else.
The groomer life is hard.

>>113589032
Bad mic, not comfortable speaker, really thick non american accent
that would be my top 3 where i turn off and we are not even at what is streamed or schedule

>>113609357
Okay anon, could you pass me the dihydrogen monoxide? All the sodium chloride in the food made me thirsty

>>113589032
I legitimately feel bad for 0 views. I try to watch and engage with them but what can you really say to a total stranger? I like your model...You have a nice voice. Like what the fuck do I do?

I watch this Indonesian 0 view, she seemed genuinely nice and did good artwork of bigger vtubers. I tuned in to her for a whole month. It was just me watching and liking her stream. My autism just couldn't keep it up. I still bad giving up on that poor girl because even though I was just some stupid American it was like a glimmer of hope for her...

>>113612506
Oh yeah absolutely, that’s what I was trying to get at; unless you’re naturally lucky you have to put in constant effort and be ready to reach out and grab any tiny bit of luck that flickers by you.
If you just give up and say “I’m unlucky it’s so over” then even if you ever did get a lucky chance you’d just miss it.
>>113612883
I don’t blame you for not wanting to go back but that’s heartbreaking. If I said that to someone like that but then never came back…That’d keep me up at night.

>>113628346
You sound sweet and caring anon. In the end though, it’s the vtubers job to try to make even the 1 person there feel comfy some way or another. Obviously that’s not an easy thing to do. But it is our job and not yours as a viewer.

>>113628973
If a girl tells you she pees herself and you don't instantly want to protect her for the rest of your life, that's your fault, not the girl's. And if that's somehow not enough she plays the Gamecube Animal Crossing, the best one. He discovered the perfect woman and just let her slip through his fingers

>>113607318
its sad to see that desperation in their eyes.
not once do they ever take time to think about how those groups ever got big enough that they could practice nepotism.

think about it, if i make a shitty game
i'm shunned, if i make a shitty game, but have friends working with me, and turn it into a good game, now we have success, and people want to join us.
but we only hire our own, and kids of my friends (nepotism), and we build up our company, and make even better games, and now MORE people want to join us, but we only hire our own

see how that works?
networking = nepotism before nepotism has a chance to matter.

build something and make it good, and you'll be able to practice nepotism, and not looks so desperate, humiliating yourself publicly (looking at you AQUWA)

>>113612317
gross, why would you do that.

just watch some fraiki, she's the only ok french vtuber, because she sounds cute (like a squirel, not a cute girl)

>>113628346
I've yet to find any promising 0 views, but I'm concerned about this happening if I do.

>>113612984
i guess.
i like all types of games
FPS for hanging out with friends, rpg/rts for when i'm trying to work through some stuff mentally and need something to keep me occupied.

>>113589032
This hurts , I wish success to everyone that tries this but it's just way too saturated atm and most people hardly got enough time to watch one or two chuubas

>>113629434
Are you saying aquwa is the french vtuber you hate

>>113629492
I thought Aquwa is Canadian.

>>113629531
She's spiritually french

>>113629378
Are you telling me I should buy a GameCube and start peeing myself? Is that the true path to success?
>>113629434
Well there’s a lot of different types of nepotism too, and they can overlap. But yeah I get what you’re saying. When I was talking about the social ladder grappling that many small creators engage in though, I feel like thats often less networking and more social warfare. They’re not building anything valuable.

>>113622860
I'm another male vtuber and I've accepted vtubing just isn't very welcoming to guys. I almost made partner too but I can't make other vtuber friends to save my life and I recognize it's my downfall, but even if I did I'm not sure if it would matter.

>>113620456
Youtube is constantly listening to every stream for wrongthink and feelshurtspeech

>>113592832
kek

>>113629434
Networking ends in nepotism but that doesn't mean nepotism isn't bad. You end up with that fuckup that just sits on his thumbs or waters the office plants but in exchange you keep some important dev happy. We had an nepohire that was so bad he was shuffeled around the branches but wherever he ended up the moral went down.

>>113590409
>if someone's stuck with 0-1 viewers then they're probably actually doing something wrong.
>>113591191
>there has never been a time I've found a deserted vtuber where it wasn't immediately apparent what the issue was.
This. If you're just starting out I understand why you have a low view count but if you've been doing this shit for over 3 years then I feel no sympathy. Most common offenses include
>too many mods or VIPs hijacking the stream with their faggotry
>only engaging with regulars or people who are subbed
>their partner is part of the mod team or you can hear him in talking in the background
>has a *no flirting with streamer* rule
These bitches shoot themselves in the foot from day one then go crying to their social media why they are stuck on a plateau.

I can save her

>>113589032
why would they expect to find hundreds of people that like them online when no one likes them irl?
being boring retard that got bullied at school is not much different when streaming

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Now that I think about it, why do 0views never invite their online friends to watch them? Do they seriously expect to gain a following by never telling anyone and just streaming into the void?

>>113614993
>Get a gimmick
I'll be the straight white male of vtubers

>>113631720
>talking to people who don't appear on the comments
If you plan to do multiplatform but cant link all the chats together in your screen there is no better way to make people feel left out or incomplete.
Overall a shit experience that makes people leave.

>>113636029
That is how you make it harder to get a following. Because your friends are never going to be your main audience and all you're telling the algorithm is that you have people following but they have no retention with your stream.

>>113589032
unu

>>113589032
sad

>>113589032
>join chat of a 0 view
>they get excited and start talking to (you)
>get social anxiety and leave

>>113641442
Honestly that's why I stay lurking even in the channel of some 0 views I liked.

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>>113624872
>The groomer life is hard.
hang in there bud, there are more female streamers out there to take money from you and give to their bf's/ husbands

>>113629492
no, i like aquwa, and fraiki, but only because they're vanilla french, frenchlite

>>113629599
quebequoa

>>113629648
>they're not building anything valuable
you just described 80% of every industry in the US

>>113630921
i agree, nepotism isn't bad, if i start a huge successful company and make billions, i'd want my kids to inherit that, and run it.

i'm not doing social welfare, sure, i'd help my community, because i got rich, but i only got rich to provide for my kids a secure future.
unlike boomers, i care for my blood

as for that nepobaby, the parents failed by not putting someone experienced in the company to orient and teach him how it works, that's on the parents. (negligence)

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>>113612883
>I never do I never watxh her again
streamers do notice. I started streaming a 1 year or so ago, I remember all the first followers and ppl that watched me, know if they have a pet and if so how many and some their country too etc.
But!! its normal for viewers to go, so dont feel bad, if ur striming for 30 viewers. Those 30 ppl are different than the ones you had last year.. and so on, (yes some do stay) but for the most part this will apply.
It can be harder to grow as an indie bc even if ur follow number goes up, the rotation will still happen so it feels like stagnation

>>113643750
The worst part is when they call you out when you're lurking, even when you haven't followed yet. They're watching the viewer list like a hawk.

>>113645306
>viewer list like a hawk.
they shouldn't a rookie mistake is to have view count on. never toggled it on, your mood shouldn't change if the number is big or small should remain the same

>>113598310
same

>>113645405
viewer list =! viewer count
retard
the viewer list contains the name of those who are lurking, the viewer count is just the number

>>113619995
Palworld
Friendship like mecha chameleon
Reactslop + youtube clip spam

>vtuber has 5viewers
>0 coments

what causes this?

>>113650894
>5view
Botting
>a ccv of 5
Not a lot of people like chatting.

>>113644464
I'm noticing a lot of "if" in your post. Perhaps someone who hasn't actually achieved anything isn't in the best position to give business advice.

>>113607026
The independance isn't even why you should be thankful. America would probably still be better as a colony anyway.
No, you should be thankful El Retardo Napoléon sold Louisinia for what would today be about 600-900 mM... for about 400M.

>>113651709
funny, every person i've given advice has succeed, yet i haven't.

they are more motivated than i am, while i like to just study, analyze and theorize.
some are thinkers others are doers, some are both, some are neither.
since i dont really care much about money, i never felt that hunger to hustle, so i never "made it".
i made sure to kill that drive in middle school, i hated having to constantly chase money, just to end up spending it on something that ended up being dissapointing.
instead i aspired to find the truly fulfilling and enjoyable things in life, which require little to no money.

i will never let myself be manipulated by the desire for money, not even pussy.

like my dad says, "i dont love money, but it sure quiets the nerves", money has its place, in my life though, its a place of disdain.

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>>113652185
shut up frenchie.
we dont need to be thankful for a financial purchase, you got paid, we got land.
the land wasn't free, and napoleon only sold the land to fund his wars, you should be thanking us for providing funds for his campaigns.

c'mon le frenchie, say oui, thanks forge je monet, yangki.

>>113650894
You should never be a 0 viewers, at least be at 1 or 2. 1 is your own browser to casualy check if the sound is okey but 1 is too obvious so they fake 2-4 extra viewers. Then there are the genuine lurkers, i have no interest in holding a conversation i'm just there for the gameplay.
If streamer really bot they go for 20+ or around 100. 5 is just having casual browsers open

>>113589163
>>113589230
Playing popular games for the sake of playing popular games should only be used to get eyes on you and get people to stay through something else. If you only rely on one thing, people are going to expect only that one thing from you and not be interested in anything else. It'll hurt you in the long run
>t. viewer who noticed this pattern the more chuubas I watched

>>113648607
same quit streaming though.

>>113654435
>so they fake 2-4 extra viewers
How do you do that by the way after having a tab open on your browser?

>>113654867
You want me to write down a tutorial? depends on if you are on twitch or yt. twitch is simpler to cheat but how about you do your own homework. This is why you are at the bottom.

>>113629531
Canadians are French in red coats

>>113654867
Just have multiple browsers open with different accounts logged in
Then use all these accounts to watch your streams

>>113655159
thats sad

>>113656901
It's a sad sad world for 1view and 2views nonny

>>113589230
Sorry to hear that, honestly you gotta pray and hope you get recognized. Would be interesting if 0 viewers streamer interact with other 0 viewers streamer to see difference between each other

>>113655013
yes. for youtube.

>>113589032
I'll never understand this one. I'm already going to be playing something regardless if I'm streaming or not.

>>113654867
>How do you do that by the way after having a tab open on your browser?
its really easy for twitch youtube to track ip addresses and browsers to see if its a different account or the same person viewing 2 things at once.
Twitch cracked down on this, now if you watch 2 streamers at once one of them ur giving the view and the other ur not, regardless if ur watching in 2 monitors at the same time.

>>113600813
>>113601287
muda is an actual psycho schizo wtih a lot of self-harm fantasies/fetishes but if you like fat femboys and are into that go for it

>>113658245
Good to know

>>113657815
Because when you stream you want to be heard to not feel like you're wasting your time

>>113619995
probably Gacha or something that involves competition against other players