!!! ATTENTION !!!Nijisisters are crying over STILL being social pariahs in the vtubing "community" despite it being THE CURRENT YEAR!They say the exclusion feels "forced".!!! ATTENTION !!!
>>113589279"Twitter screencap thread" but apparently that one sis is such a fan of the Black Stream that she made it her avatar.
>>113589279Maybe once they press charges on the sex offenders and oust the sociopathic clique members, but it's widely known that NijiEN is a poisonous snakepit. There's no pushing those worms back in the jar.
>>113589279It is a double standard, if people knew what went on behind the scenes at hololive and other corpos, they would boycott them, too. Why exclude people when you can just let them enjoy their thing?
>>113589279> "They're still in the top 3 biggest vtuber corpos"Hololive, Nijisanji... who's the third one?
>>113589409MyHoloTV, obviously
>>113589279>They say the exclusion feels "forced".I wonder why
People who make fanmerch create it featuring whoever they want. If someone doesn't like the choice of people depicted, they should start making their own
>>113589388NIJICOPE
>>113589279This is the same person that had used the opportunity of Pomu receiving Nijiseethe over the Visa thing to sperg about how she stopped collabing with men (that's incel pandering)
>>113589342LMFAO
>>113589279>avoiding rainbow peopleKek
Guess Niji fans shouldn't act like giant weiners
>>113589279I don't think this person understands that it's not even necessarily being done out of dislike for NijiEN at this point, they've just become a totally irrelevant market. Rosemi was the last talent they had who resonated with people outside of the company's own tiny sphere and kept them remotely relevant, and as soon she left all interest in the company from general audiences vanished. People barely even bother shitting on them for yabs anymore.
>>113589388>holo out of nowhereNIJISEETHE
>>113590168>brings up holo>proves point that holo fans are part of the problem with Niji hateyare yare
>>113589279There are still Nijisisters in 2026?
>>113590223>Niji hate>problem
>>113590264Let the fans have fun and like who they like
>>113589694She's right, Pomu does have an incel fanbase because she panders to the GFE types and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>113590281Just like nijisisters did to Zaion fans?
>>113589409Phase Connect
>>113590286So you mean to say scarle and aia also has incel fanbase since they do Gfe shit too right ? And vox and not black vanta has femcel fanbase
>>113589342fpbp
They need to realize its Niji's own retardation stopping them from rejoining everwhere (that takes them)>Ask to join a venue>Before venue even says yes or no, they drop a list of other talents they absolutely will not share a space with>Instant no from venue>WHY DO THEY HATE US?!
>>113589694
>>113589409Brave
>>113590449Both Scarle and Aia collab with men tho???
>>113590649Scarle only collabs with 1 guy (Ren) once a year for Iluna's wave anniversary, purely out of obligation so as to not seem like a bitch
>>113590743>only
>>113590743Scarle mostly does solo streams, cos she prefers to stream alone. I don't think it is to give off a pure, idol image at all, and she has collabed with men (aside from Ren), so her and Mint aren't really comparable
>>113589388Nimi and Saba destroyed any credibility that the "hololive is as bad as nijisanji" crowd had with their behavior.People know why they ACTUALLY graduated now.
>>113590776You mean the time she was forced to collab with Aster after the *SIGH* leak?
>>113589694Oh, so she's seething because she saw that like 90% of the tables at Offkai will have Mint fanmerch.
>>113590801You act like she collabs with women all of the time, too? Her and Mint are completely different cases
>>113589485
>>113590824No? It doesn't matter if you stream solo or only collab with girls. If you don't collab with guys, that is "incel pandering"
>>113590824Scarle doesn't pander to incelsShe is so beloved by so many bc she is so real, her persona is not an idol thing or a gimmick
>>113590902You don't need to be an idol to pander to incels
>>113589279>>113589694She's right in both of these situations.
>>113589279I mean they are right.
>>113590981nijiseethe
>>113590981nobody is "forcing" artists to not make niji fanmerch, they don't make the merch because they know it will not sell well in the westone artist I follow stopped making niji fanmerch after selen shock, and it took them almost 2 years to sell through all their back-stock.
>>113590424LMAO>>113590536Irrelevant in the West, just like Niji.
>>113589279The better question is why there should be Niji merch on Offkai in first place?It's not like they are part of it.On what basic there should be one if they aren't participants?
>>113589409If they watch boys they probably mean FSP
>>113590902>she is so realShe's a fucking hustler. She used the "Kurosanji" comment heart moment and #astergate as an opportunity to blackmail Nijisanji management into giving her five new outfits and into never being forced to collab with moids. All the while giving signs of graduation baiting that were, of course, bullshit. She's as fake and gay as they come.
>>113590449You fags love to use them in your arguments but always make it obvious that you don't watch either of them.
They're due to do something horrible or retarded and everyone will remember why we hate them.
>>113591355nobody watches nijien, that's why they don't get fanmerch
>>113591389Not now fatass go back to talking about enna's virginity
>>113591355>you don't watch either of themDuh, of course fucking not. It's called a boycott, anon, an no exceptions are to made.
>>113591416What the fuck are you talking about? What boycott? Do catalogfags know how to stay on subject to save their lives?
>>113589279Its not that they're isolated because of the Selen termination still, some of the girls like Aia and Finana collabed with other indies or smaller corpo girls like Chromashift and VSPO!'s comparatively small EN branch, and people in general have long since moved on. Its just that the girls with large organic fans have also moved on, competition in the EN scene has also just increased with indies gathering people's attention, the female fanbase that championed male vtubers have since moved onto LADS, and the male fanbase that solely watches female vtubers doesn't really stick around because that means potentially watching content that has male vtubers. And NijiEN's males have poisoned the well so hard during the LuxNoc era with their drama and heavy Yumejo pandering that no male wants to watch them because of it, even excluding the Selen termination.
>>113591389kek
>>113591485and also hololive offers the superior product if you wanna watch girls
>>113591481The post-Selen Shock boycott? What, you never heard of it?
>>113589279Unironically Nijisisters did this to themselves. Nobody wants to make Niji merch because they've repeatedly seen how the Niji fanbase act towards others (especially towards ex-livers).
>>113589342And the other one has the most insufferable Simpsons character as their avatar
>>113591416It's not even a boycott at this point, it's just (deserved) apathy
>>113591515That too. You still have to deal with corpo BS like game permissions, but you don't need to worry about unexpected collabs with dudes painfully trying to pass off as stereotypical ikemen for pay.
>>113591936>but you don't need to worry about unexpected collabs with dudes painfully trying to pass off as stereotypical ikemen for payYou did in the past but I blamed Omega for that
>>113591330If she used all the drama to break free from forced male collabs than she's smart and deserves success. I think Scarle should go total GFE
>>113591389kek, rekt them
It's not even a boycott really, just nobody cares about NijiEN. They're not even competition to anyone, but maybe each other? If they didn't have Nijisanji in the name, who would care? Also, they, that is the fans only have their oshis and themselves frankly, to blame for why nobody likes them.
>>113591571Nobody wants to make Niji merch because NijiEN lost all their fans in the West.
>>113592344She should fucking graduate is what she should fucking do. Or at least that's what I would have said back in 2024, but I don't care anymore. Besides, doing GFE in Negrosanji is pointless.
>>113589279>rainbow people The absolute state
>>113589388>holo out of fucking nowhere Obsessed and mindbroken
>>113589388Nijisanji had a lot of opportunities to not shoot themselves in the foot, but they did it anyway, repeatedly>make laundry list of made-up offences for Zaion>throw Selen under the bus with 3 pages of bullshit they made up >after all that instead of apoligizing they manipulated and forced their own talents to make the Black Stream, putting them under fire too>as if that wasn't enough, they made a statement to the investors that "impact on financial results will be negligible">the ex-talents that graduated and were spilling the beans about how shitty the company and staff were is just the icing on the cakeAt what point do you think we should stop the boycott?
>>113591571They are still afraid of Lelouch.
>>113592470She basically built a walled garden for her and her fans, I still fucking hate Nijisanji but it's smart on her part.
>>113592629Not to mention NijiEN fans being subhuman and constantly doxxing and harassing ex-livers and others, and never thinking that they were in the wrong And they wonder why people don't want to support their oshis and associate with them
>>113592629If they do the right thing and apologize to everyone for their wrongdoings (fans, management, and livers) to start, but we all know that won't happen
>>113589279they have a point, it's stupid. one dumb whore sperging out shouldn't matter. no one avoids hololive like the plague for their yabs and dramas, or phase, or anyone else. corpos have done far worse than fire a bitch who was breaking company rules left and right. women have women moments all the time and pity grift about attempting
>>113593132sister.... it's been years
>>113593132This post aptly demonstrates why nijisanji is still getting shunned
>>113589388seethe harder nijiniggernijidrones got what you fucking deserved.
>>113590223>talking about niji, topic about niji>nijikek goes off topic with holo and prove point about nijifags seethingyare yare
>>113593132It wasn't just one though...People already have suspicions back when Zaion got terminated with a list of bullshit that other livers have done. Selen's graduation plus the black screen stream confirmed the suspicions and even turned the fans who were doubtful about the suspicions to being hostile towards the livers in the black screen stream.
>>113590281Let the events choose who they want to feature
>>113593132Nijikek, you just demonstrated why you are shunned.You sisters are dumb as fuck.
>>113589279>Act like unlikeable retards>Fans act equally unlikeable >'why does no one like us" ;_;
>>113593083That would be a step in the right direction, but (A) it would be far too little and far too late; (B) it would almost certainly be so grossly insincere that it would be significantly worse than the nothing they've been doing for the past 2+ years; and (C) it would make them lose face with the investors, since from the investors' point of view the company already issued an apology (Riku's "apology" video) and thus shouldn't need to apologize again. They'd much rather lose money than lose face.Next week is the shareholders meeting. In which they get to tell the shareholders about all the money they've been losing in their efforts to pretend that nothing bad happened in or since February 2024.Especially when they get to the part where at last year's shareholders meeting, they noted the increased KPI from the totally-not-botted Minecraft event and BTB's debut buff and suggested it would help them with their revenue recovery efforts, only for revenue to do the literal opposite of "recover" since then.
>>113593742>>113593512Well, at least the bottle crinkler came to his senses.
>>113589279Aren't Nijinigs poor and don't buy merch? Why are they complaining?
>>113590981No she's not
>>113591389True lol
>>113593132>post shit like this>wonder why no one likes nijiEN and why no one makes fan merch of them
>>113594088What's the point of buying the merch when your oshi gets 2%
>>113590286Why ars you talking about yourself in third person? Are you retarded?
>>113589279nobody buys nijien merch so nobody makes it. seems pretty simple
>>113594666more like none of the merch makers like niji, so they don't make it
>>113593832Their crash-out over Ike "siding" with Doki was legendary
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>>113594742>>113594759kek
>>113594742>>113594759They can't even claim that he was a grifter because he pretty much came back one time to say that Selen was right, then disappeared from the internet, lol.
>>113594742>>113594759>>113594808>>113594843Ike was so based for that
>>113594875But he murdered an innocent water bottle!
>>113595108The water bottle had it coming
>>113593742The truth is that NijiEN was declining ever since late 2022 and long before Dookieturd saved her own ass while pretending to be some kind of victim. You had a bunch other events that were frequently used to explain the decline of NijiEN long before that, but somehow everyone pretends the concert cancellation/postponement and the 300 other yabs never happened now.
>>113595854Selen was the final nail in the coffin and is the reason why NijiEN is the way it is today.
Nijisanji never apologized, never changed anything, never explained how they will do better. Instead they sued their critics to shut them up, encorced a new policy of "silent terminations" to hide their firings, and simply kept the drama quiet while allowing time to pass. Now they demand to be forgiven because "that was a long time ago". So what? You didn't apologize or change anything. You have no reason to be forgiven.
>>113595854Funny. Who was it that came out and was forced to apologize and run damage control for that canceled/postponed concert while taking the brunt of the backlash for the company?...Oh right, Pomu and Selen
It would be really funny if someone made NijiEN merch but it was only of Meloco
>>113595854>pretending to be some kind of victimso true sister
>>113596254There are already people who do exactly that. They're called "Niji JP fans"
>>113596339Clearly not enough to appear in the offkai merch previews the person in OPs screenshot is whining about
>>113596384Sounds like a "Niji EN fan(s)" problem.If the EN sisters wanna buy and/or sell Niji EN fan merch at an anime convention outside of Japan, they can go to Anime Impulse.
Even disregarding the whole boycott thing.Outside of the papes, most of the official Niji merch is notoriously bland and overpriced.And none of the remaining livers have done anything remotely interesting for the past 2 years, so there's no demand for fan merch.
>>113589279>highkeystop that
>>113593132Judging by the amount of (You)s, people definitely feel called out by this.
>>113595854The basic problem behind everything has always been the Ethyria girls. The first 6 girls were 2 view streamers, and had no expectations going in. But the Ethyria girls were hired with firm expectations for how much money they expected to make. When these expectations didn't manifest, they became vindictive. Millie was the most popular Hanamori before, so she expected to be the most popular again. Enna made a heel-turn career change out of nowhere because she saw the paychecks her friends were making in NijiEN. After debuting they dropped the cute girl act quickly, the male audience didn't like it. They were earning a small fraction of what they expected and started bitching all the time, calling themselves "the forgotten wave". So when the males came around they immediately hitched their wagon, each one taking a male ship and changing their personality to appeal to the new female fans. They became way more bitchy and aggressive, talking about poop and sex and suicide. As their popularity grew, they became incredibly arrogant. They started doing blatant things just to piss off the original fanbase. Enna started doing full on NTR content and said she was trying to purge any remaining incels from her fandom. This greatly damaged the other girls by association, immediately there was a drop in views and donations. Millie was constantly stirring up drama and pushing ships between other girls and the males, even if the fans didn't like it. Reimu was flouting how close she was with Vox and using it to cloutchase.Even back then, it was obvious these girls need to be reigned in, they are a huge problem. I think they made friends with some managers who would let them get away with anything, and so went completely unchecked. Almost every misfortune the branch suffered traces back to them-- Vox's relationship crashout with Reimu, and her doxxing of him, started imploding the female fanbase.-- The AR Live was originally supposed to be Luxiem-only, but someone behind the scenes demanded it goes in wave-order. At the last minute they tried to shove 10 extra girls into it, and this caused the show to be cancelled. The Luxiem guys completely freaked out since their recording was scrapped and they boycotted streaming for months. We don't technically know who was making these demands but it sounds like the handiwork of the clique, who has lots of sway with management.-- The Secret GC stream was a culmination of the insane drama and shitposting the Ethyria girls were doing for months unchecked. They felt totally empowered gl do this. It lead to Enna and Millie's suspension, which interfered with Enna's birthday concert causing her to abandon singing entirely.Atop all of this, these girls were vicious bullies who built up a brand on being feminist yass queen girlboss....etc-- They bullied Nina by excluding her from their discord early on. They planned a new subunit just to cut Nina out of her own wave, contributing to her decision to graduate.-- They bullied the boys often while teasing relationships with them leading to a lot of toxic moments. -- They bullied Selen, because they're so arrogant and full of themselves they knew management would take their side at all times.After all that Ethyria did, the branch became a smoking ruin, a stump of what it used to be. They never learned their lesson until their income dropped so severely they were essentially forced to change. Even today they don't accept blame, they blame the fans, or the girls who left, or even management for not "getting" whatever bizarre sense of humor they claimed to have.I often wonder how much different things would be if they simply fired Ethyria after the initial meltdowns. Just fucking get rid of these people jeapordizing your whole business, I don't get it.
>>113594759>>113594875We like male vtubers now?
>>113597005There is no >we, faggot. Come up with your own opinions, reject.
>>113596971Judging by the lack of NijiEN fan merch, people just don't care for or likes NijiEN
>>113597005he isn't a vtuber anymore, and who said anything about liking? you can respect someone for doing something based, anon
>>113597000Tbf AR Live was doomed from the start. If they went luxiem only they'd pretty much ACCELERATE Pomu graduating, and the male fanbase leaving, making the eventual decline from chinks leaving even worse.
>>113597000Based oldfag.
>>113589388uh oh nijicuck seetheyour niji whores and homos all have STDs by the way
>>113590281nah we're YEARS past that point nijinigger, and you only have yourselves to blame.
>>113590281They do. That's why there's no niji fan merch
>>113590281>Let the fans have fun and like who they like>they do and ignore nijisanji>NOOOO NOT LIKE THATyeah yeah we've heard that one thousands of times
>>113597000>The basic problem behind everything has always been the Ethyria girlsAnd the main problem was Elira.
>>113596254paizuri material
>>113589279The reality of the matter is that the remaining nijien fans are not the type to create stuff of their oshis. The amount of fanart/OC/etc. fell to basically 0 ever since the great purge of 2024. Pomu and Selen's fans were the majority of artists/creative types that did nijien fanart and the majority of people that were con goers. All nijien has left now is a bunch of teenagers/womanchilds that would rather spend time writing ao3 fanfics than do anything else (watching their supposed oshis included).
>>113597005Shitting on nijisanji covers a multitude of sins
>>113589279Any day Nijisisters are crying is a good day
Nijibeggars really begs
>>113601362the nijinigger victim complex is peak irony