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>>113656531Are they going to make all their money back from HoloEarth?
>>113656624fpbp, kekWho knows tho, you'd hope, so they can get to doing other stuff sooner
i dont get how to play this game
>>113656624They will have to make back 19.52 million USD (thats what was listed in their financial report)
>>113656624yeah
>>113656531BUY BUY BUY
>>113657301Where are you having trouble i can help (i am a new player but now i am level 18 in game cap is 30)
>>113657335investors already sold because they realize the release is going to be the peak
>>113656531Nijiseethe
>>113657393No seriously! Nijisanji execs must be gripping Thier whiskey bottles so hard their hands are shaking and drinks are spilling kek.They'd probably Grill Riku and ask "How come you never release shit like this!? After all the money we invested in you you have yet to produce results!"
reminder that gacha games literally can't looseit basically prints moneyespecially in Japanadd this and oshi idol culture aspect of "supporting your oshi" and it's deadly good combo
>>113657470The membership thing was really smart too, especially with confirmation that talents get a cut. I have zero interest in gacha, I'm not the target audience for the predatory stuff because it just makes me not want to bother instead of making me want to spend money, but I can throw them 3 bucks to help my oshi and the game parts of the game are genuinely fun.
>>113657353my brain doesn't adjust to the key timings. I played rhythm games before but never with a keyboard how do i get good
>>113657508they are effectively retarded i cant buy membership through stream which is literally the only thing i would ever pay for since its more of an statement
>>113656531>Google Playholobronies....
>>113657660Considering majority of Japanese use Apple devices exclusively I see your point
>>113656531Cant read jap but isnt this just one day? Post after 6 months
>>113657577That is really weird. If the game didn't support in-app purchases on PC at all I'd understand, just not implemented, but you CAN buy everything else on Steam, just not memberships.I guess Steam doesn't support monthly payments or something?
>>113657660For you
>>113657775Is soccer big in Japan or is this just world cup hype?
>>113657310Only 19million? Holy fuck, that's ezpz at this rate
>>113657470The majority of gacha games released fail to find an audience and are quickly shut down.
>>113657508>especially with confirmation that talents get a cutoh i didnt know this, who confirmed it?
>>113657562you only need to press D and K key. It covers all 3 tile on right and left side. PC version is unironically noob friendly.
>>113658012Mori said so on her twitter.https://x.com/moricalliope/status/2080359946231873691
>>113656531>Number one
>>113658014Technically true but on higher difficulties there are too many notes to handle with only one finger on each side. Can you map more than one key to the same lane? If so that would be doable, would be just like muse dash with redundant inputs. Otherwise you may still need to use SF JL to hit extra notes while DK are busy.
>>113657809PES made 42 million USD during the World Cup, for HoloDreams to beat it they would have to make about 10% of Cover's yearly revenue
>>113657809both
>>113657872well the fanbase in this case is already pre established
>>113656976It will, this month alone can do it
>>113657809Haaland is too strong...
>>113658018neat, i'll actually join the in game membership then
>>113658202Itadakimasu
>>113657809haaland's banner is on right now so go figure
>>113657562Is there a reason why you arent playing the mobile version?
>>113656531BASED
>>113657872Also worth noting that the most successful gacha games come from China and South Korea and Japan just sucks right now.
>>113657775Soccer CHADS!!!
>>113660194Jesus...
>>113657470I'd love to throw some shekels in but they don't accept them on Steam. They need to fix that shit or just delist it there because they have half an experience there.
>>113656531I'm too dumb to understand how Umamusme works but how is Nikke? Can I collect Nikkers?
>>113660550>40 million for thiskek
>>113657310They got paid for the whole thing snd abandoned it as soon as possible. Might have had opportunity costs but compared to their other failed projects, HoloAss got them tech infrastructure and domain knowledge instead of senselessly pumping money into worthless boyfailures that had to povertybait 4 months in
>>113656531>>113660550~550M Yen / $3.3M over just two days on iOS (Android and Steam / PC sales not included) getto
>>113660194>ZZZ knocked off by its own clone
>>113656531yeah this feels like an organic rise for sure. millions of corporate dollars pumped into a game that doesn't know what it wants to be. it's like execs asked the devs "what is a popular game? throw it in there. and put hololive on it." i thought they learned their lesson with holo earth but i guess i was wrong.
>>113660194>noting that the most successful gacha games come from China and South Korea and Japan just sucks right now.Almost all popular Japanese gacha games are based on IPs that have been established for a decade or more. You could argue that the horse game (Uma Musume) is an exception, but since it's based on real racehorses, whether you count it or not, it would still be an outlier.
>>113661489Because that's the only advantage Japan has over others.From gameplay perspective they like 10 years behind.
Can't they just get the mocap data from the 3d live streams.And make all the songs with the 3d characters dancing?It shouldn't be something that expensive to make, considering the 3d mocap data already exists.Then they could expand to some VR stuff or AR stuff.
>>113660965The think is this is made by other company so at least half of the profit goes to them, and the real test will be how can they keep the excitement alive in few months when the content is dried up, keeping #1 for a day or so for a new release game with well established fanbase isn't something special
>>113656531Nikkebros....
>>113658795nta but there's a bunch of region locks for mobile
>>113656531lmao. Talk about it when it's not release week of your free application to see where is in the ranking of "most sold apps"
>>113661583>From gameplay perspective they like 10 years behind.Yeah all those chinese gacha with amazing gameplay like Azur Lane, Girls' Frontline, or Artery Gear Fusion lmao
>>113658059And that's likely the best ranking they will ever get. It's not like they can make up new fictional characters or that new holos (whenever they eventually debut) are really doing good at all popularity wise. You're banking on the audience not getting tired of the same songs and wanting to get new illustration number 12 of their oshi eventually.
>>113661598Imagine if we could have something like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBdJRRXGyrMbut with hajime instead.
>>113656624They already made up for the money they wasted on Holoass, it wasn't even a third of the revenue they generate each quarter when it was still being developed and they were still posting profits.
>>113657562Change your audio timing
>>113658795my tablet wont run it apparently lmaoi have a PC that will easily, but I can't opt in to any of the paid stuff that way
>>113660751You collect many Nikkers.
>>113660194Moving to a Japanese gacha game after you've been playing Chinese and S. Korean ones is agony. Because JP Gacha is still abyssmal odds.
>>113660194JP gachas not adapting the system chinks and gooks are doing to their gachas is their downfall. Sure JP still have Uma, FGO, Grub, Gakumas, Priconne (despite being on its death bed now), and other gachas that are still giving them profit but when you think about it, it's really outdated in retrospective.
>>113661704>the reality is a bunch of retarded nigger speculation from me, a nijinigger
>>113656531Cover started as a tech company before pivoting to idol VTubers. If HoloDreams ends up being a success, what are the chances they'll pivot toward gacha games and start making more gacha titles beyond Dreams?
>>113663660>Uma, FGO, Grub, GakumasGoddamn JP make some new IPs. Korea makes less money than you and theyre not afraid of making new IPs
>>113660194How credible is this? i don’t think they can get actual revenue and there is a few websites like this and they are all different If anything >>113660550 this show it is completely wrong since we have actual numbers for it
>>113665283name a successful Korean mobile game that didn't have previous mobile game they made before that end up dying
>>113665450Almost all revenue sites use proprietary secret algorithms to project revenue since none of that is public informationThe only real info people have are play store and apple store rankings, and they extrapolate from that, using publicly released earnings data from public corpos to calibrateThat chart in particular relies heavily on Sensortower which uses its own secret China multiplier because there's no google play store in China so they just take the ios estimate (in itself a guess) and multiply it to account for all the missing android numbersIt's a mess. Not to mention any games which have a sizable PC population are not accounted for since that revenue is not tracked anywhere
>>113656531SEA coded thread bragging about a gacha
>>113660965>he doesn't know what that G meansfunny
>>113657508>The membership thing was really smart too, especially with confirmation that talents get a cutNot gonna lie, that sounds very compelling for how cheap it is per month and I actually get some stuff in return for a game I would actively be playing, so I wouldn't mind throwing some money to Mr. Koro. I will think about it though, because I really do not like the Proseka gameplay because of the retarded swipe notes in higher difficulties, that was always my main gripe with that game.
the game has virtually no viewers on twitch. what's up with that?
>>113662904Will it ever make back the money that was wasted on the Homos though?
>>113667084>projecting
>>113662702Just put the same characters in different costumes for new Gacha pulls. Plus there are Holos who aren't even in the game yet and those Holos also have songs.The pool of songs they have is vast and new songs get released constantly. Obviously getting people addicted is the most important factor for these games. I say it's 50/50 that they can do that. One of the most important factors will be whether some big non-holo streamers will play it on stream, cause then you can get an audience you didn't already have. I feel they should've added a horse game aspect too. make the holos compete and you can bet on it or whatever.
>>113667516In a month or two probably.
>>113656531nijibros...
>>113667084Gacha and Vtubing are a SEA thing actually
>>11365747099% gacha games EOS before hitting their first year
>>113657470you say that but there has been Gacha games that shutdown because money or not enough players to keep it up
>>113667036well, I look up a bit and just like you said, they extrapolate from ranking from each country with undisclosed criteria.I found pic rel for sensortower which is quite a stupid assumption and some dev also said they are off by more than 100%.
>>113666922>that didn't have previous mobile game they made before that end up dyingJust curious, but why does that matter?Like, Love and Deepspace and Blue Archive are both successful, who cares what the mobile games their devs made before them were?
>>113671932There's a reason why it's mostly a meme used for shitposting. It's also admittedly useful for comparing relatively trends for any certain game over time, but game to game comparisons and raw numbers are not going to be accurate
>>113660194I'm kinda curious if China Naruto is real or is this just made up data that they usually put out. Surely plp believe the CCP when they claim only few deaths, no poverty, more money spending (despite various clips show otherwise), constantly claims of 50 year ahead in future despite City having no drainage to whatever Tier city, etc...
>>113656624Yeah
>>113657470What's funny about this whole thing is that their "oshi" won't get a single cent from the profit of this dogshit ""Game""
>>113667375maybe because its boring as fuck to watch
>>113667375Do people even like stream of rhythm games on Twitch?>curious>check Rhythm games section>only one jp guy with 15k views in idol game and rest of sections only have few hundreds viewsguess that answer that
Why are yellows spending money on this?
>>113656531>jp gacha gamedestined for EOS before the first anni
>>113677431destined for Expansion Of Small tits? based
>>113662633>Bringing up "free applications" when the competition it has there is other free applicationsYou sure are a fucking retard
>>113677399it's not something a brown like you should worry about
>>113677374It's really hard to yap while playing rhythm games
>>113656531we're all in here btw>>>/vg/575156802
>>113667516All $75?
>>113656624They should just integrate whatever they created with HoloEarth into holodori.
>>113676541same for that anime horse girl game but everybody streamed that
>>113678735yeah just copy and paste assets between completely different engines...
>>113676493Multiple girls have said that they get a cut of the revenue, but you faggot doesn't watch stream to know that I suppose
>>113656624no
>>113679233It's faster than remaking them
Is the game good?
Its just colorful stage but with Hololive.Will EOS around year 2, vtubers aren't nearly as popular as people think they are, especially nowadays.
