ngl this lack of streaming is slowly making me lose interest in hololive and vtubers in general.i got into vtubing/hololive because i had lost interest in other hobbies and with the debut in myth i could actually watch their streams entirely.but now with them just not streaming I'm regaining interest in my past hobbiessucks though because they literally don't have a reason not to stream.some have family/visa issues but the rest...their just doing fuck allmuh "projects", "vacations", "hanging out with friends"
>>113692103Getting sick of them too. The way they all stopped after the concert was so stupid. Now they're probably just stretching it thinking everyone is busy playing the new game or the world cup before that as if they can hide behind those things. EN branch gets worse every year leeching JP projects and funds instead of basic streams. It's always some kind of break after clocking less than 8 hours a week in the hardest job apparently bc burnout hort.
I don't watch Hololive, but regardless, I feel bad for you.
>all of this negativityYou have three options, OP...
>>113692103>>113693606good, leave and take some schizos with you
>>113692103>>113693606Is there a more forced than "m-muh no streams!!" ?There's been like 4-5 streams a day for the past couple days now
holodori success really mindbroke some phasefags huh
>>113692103Nice gay blogpost
>>113693744Saying that you want more streams is a "schizo" thing to do?Hugbox corporate cock gobbling is apparently through the roof in holo fandom. You literally oshi the corpo instead of individual talents.That is why whoever leaves. you turn on them over night.
>>113692103I bailed on them in February, I used to watch Bae and going from no streams to a stream every day for FeBaery kinda broke me, I couldn't keep doing these bullshit feast and famine cycles. Without my oshi I quickly lost interest in the rest of the agency so I unsubscribed from the others I followed too.
>>113693912Homocollabs and Japanese streams don't count>>113694047Glad I'm not the only one who didn't like the harsh cuttoffs of that. It was lots of fun having something every day sure but then, nothing. Even when she came back it's been so infrequent and you can't even watch the others because they weren't streaming either.
>>113692103>>113693606Everything else is going to shit though, I dunno what hobbies you are talking about, but everything is being corrupted by AI. My feed is nothing but Holo and Anime now, I cannot bear anything else, so I purged it.
>>113694044if I check my subscriptions and see more than 3 holomems streaming then you have to promise to kill yourself
>>113694537>Implying that everyone must ALL holo talents no matter who it isBelieve it or not, some people just wanna watch 2 or 3 girls. My EN oshi is IRyS but I also like Kronii and Ina. If none of them are streaming, I probably wont watch anyone else.I like Raora a lot but her solo streams are not that good. I prefer her in collabs.
>>113692103Timeless fucking post.
>>113692103according to the voices in my head they want to graduate kronii but other holos are threatening to leave if they do
>>113694759wrong, nobody cares about kronii that much
>>113692103>hire lazy whores>subsidize the whole branchsurely nothing will go wrong with this
>>113692103>muh "projects", "vacations", "hanging out with friends"You should probably try having these things too
>>113696537sure thing bud
>>113696537on it buddy boy
>>113696676>>113696697That's great anons. We're all gonna make it
ngl this board still having no IDs is slowly making me lose interest in posting here
>>113693912People say>Muh streamsThen when there's streams they say >No a zatsu/collab/game I don't like doesn't count, I meant a REAL stream
ngl i'm just kinda despondent in general, every time i entire my oshi's general it's filled thread celebrities erping, some faggot spamming blacked shit or a pedophile spamming irl child porn. i think i'll just watch the streams and stop visiting /vt/.
>>113692103This is how things are. Either accept it or move on.
>>113696953You could say that they go>me me me
/birgit/
>>113694206>Japanese streams don't countUnironically kill yourself ENshart
>>113696936you now remember the leaked suggestion page which was nothing but /vt/ asking for flags and id's (all ignored by order of phase ape)
>>113697108
>>113697108ywnbj idolfag
>>113692103Not being religiously obsessed with a brand is literally the default normal baseline for this hobby. It's literally fine to try other things OP. Whether that be watching other vtubers or trying other hobbies.
>>113698060Indiefags are carrying this hobby hard
>>113698662Completely different dynamic most indies are just regular twitchshit for uggos
>>113692103Which phase/niji drama is this thread meant to cover up for?
>>113692103Moving to indies is the natural way of enjoying VTubers. I also started watching VTubers through Hololive, but after three years, I slowly dropped them all and replaced them with the indies. Hololive content is good for beginners, but after a year, it starts feeling repetitive and too corporate. Also, model’s quality is fine only if you watch Holos and don’t have anyone to compare them to from outside.
>>113692103wow people are getting really defensive but OPs opinion isn't wrong. The amount of hours EN puts into vtubing is ridiculously bad compared to the last few previous years. Funny how no numberfags go on a melty about it. They seem to pick on Phase. Maybe CC made an example out of the better versions of them.
The last time there were no HoloEN streams in mid-2022 was when I started watching Phase Connect as well
>>113700613 watching VSPO is fun because I am watching at least some kind of game play. Biboo used to be like this.
>>113700518Funny I'm the opposite starting with indies and getting tired of the dramafaga making docys and speaking theor truth every month. Moved to Holo and V4M and been pretty content until recently. Checking on my 2views now being 3-4s now sucks to see how much they've changed. I'm not ready to go hunting again, I was really hoping for something more exciting to happen already but the corpos are so slow and declining.
>>113700944> dramafaga making docys and speaking theor truth every monthoh no, I avoid that shit and don’t hesitate dropping if chuuba from my subs start showing that tendencies
>>113692103The ancient stone is regularly streaming. Go watch her.
>>113697108EOP retards are incapable of watching anything that's not EN.
>>113694044>Saying that you want more streams is a "schizo" thing to do?Yes, and always has been.
>>113702515It's more about complaining to the point of being an anti-fan
>>113702535No, it really is just about asking for streams.
Meanwhile there are too many streams for me to watch them all.
>>113702539kys
>>113692103Its funny that Cover now made asking for streams something they will sue you for with their latest update.
>>113703083They will sue you for this post because they don't give a single fuck about HoloEN.
Anyone who still watches hololive is the equivalent of a Disney adult. That's not to say there's anything wrong with the classic Disney films, they are very good, but it's time to grow up
>>113703284>classic Disney films
>>113703251>Cover is suing schizos nowCool! Heard that birgit? You're going down to Chinatown.
Just watch better oshis, lemaoNever had any issues such as lack of streamsEven within EN you have your Moris, Kiaras, Shioris and Raoras
>>113692103Similar Phase anti threads are getting instantly removed or autosaged while these ones stay for days. I wonder why?
>>113702975Same, how unemployed do you gotta be to not have anything to watch? I work from home and have like 10 watch alongs, some zatsus, and a few game streams from Holos just in the past month alone I need to watch.
>>113692103Roriloli?
Good, fuck off and take the rest of you whiners with you.
>>113692103works fine for mechoose your oshi properly and you get all the stream almost everyday
>>113703284This. Anyone with mature tastes moved to twitch indies ages ago.
>>113692103so true sister
>>113703441>HoloEN is trooning outthat explains so much now
>>113692103>t. The falseflag king .png
>>113696953Zatsu and collabs is the only content worth a damn
>>113706957Disingenuous retard.
>>113707276Huh?
>>113707175>trannies out of nowheremindbroken
>>113707175A TRANNY JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>113707872I JUST SAW ONE LOOKING OUT OF MY CLOSET
>>113707872Better watch where you walk they will grab you from the rain gutters and pull you in.
>>113692103watch jp clips like all the other dekinai
>>113692103Yeah, I've pretty much switched entirely to JPs now. It's a shame though, since I've been watching EN literally from the very beginning. At least Biboo and Irys do still stream.
>>113708973The early EN chuubas were mostly inspired by Miku and 1st gen JP vtubers. So they source material for inspiration was a bit different
>>113692103You are right, and now with calli having a meltdown and telling everyone she forced herself to stream it's even worse. At this point there is only one EN talent who actually matters.
>>113707175Complete OMEGA victory
>>113709150Multiple girls graduating due to problems with management and Calli and Kiara having massive complaints about management to the point where they're increasing their other activities really killed the vibe for EN.
>>113703970Sounds like selective revisionism. The only reason why Holofags are salty is because there is a problem but you close your eyes and wish it away. What is CCs deal anyways
>>113692103>ngl this lack of streaming is slowly making me lose interest in hololive and vtubers in general.take a break then come back
>>113692103Why can’t EN just do it like JP
>>113692103>lose interest in hololive and vtubers in general.It's been over for years anon.Once it got traction in the west, ((shareholders)) and en whores ruined it.
>>113713895Ask Kanata about that
>>113714096Kanata is in unique situations because ... how should I post this....
>>113692103Same reason I quit watching Phase. I think all corpo shit fucking sucks. Indies do it a million times better. I'll follow a few Japanese Indies extreme multiple times a day. It's the fucking tits.
>>113714269She's a dumb whore who takes on more than she can reasonably do.
>>113714571No.. it deep far more than that
>>113714571Weak bait, anon
>>113714633But I will bite
>>113692103>nglneck yourself, zoomer
>>113713895Fubuki, Miko and some other JP holos are on a whole other level than most of the ENs.
>>113714571That's mean she stream too much right?
>>113713895JPs tend to be workaholic OLs who treat streaming like a corporate job, which to be fair it technically is, while ENs still cling to streaming's amateurish roots, e.g. guerilla streams, inconsistent schedules, and lots of provocative/questionable content all around. Ame was the queen of this when she was still around.
>>113715779Then there's Marine who's worse than basically anyone else around right now.
>>113692103get a job, who gives a shit
>>113720410I watch streams, so i give a shit
>>113692103stop typing like a fucking faggot
>>113692103You said >their just doing fuck allBut the word is they're. A contraction of they are. You deserve this pain.
>>113698060>nijisanji solidified their placewhat? No. Markets are always changing. You can't solidify your place. They probably meant to say 'secured their place'. Which would be far less delulu. They don't know how to write and they deserve all the pain that will come their way.
>>113700518same. Hololive is like training wheels for vtubers. Its practically designed so that you can't be a fan long term unless you have an absolute wreck of an empty life.
>>113692103Didnt read the thread, im sure its full of fat retard simps defending their digital woman of choice. You are right about that, i was a pretty active watcher of myth in general and lost interest somewhat around council, then had a little bit of fun with advent again for short time.But im out, im not membered to anyone anymore, canceled my last merch and the only one i have subbed is Biboo because its hard letting go completely.Its not just hololive tho, vtubing in general went to shit und its extremely easy to spot lazy woman who are just in it for the money.
>>113707977>>113707872>>113707388 Trannies are so starved for attention.
>>11369210380% of this branch is shit anyway. Only Bijou streams consistently, the others stream at random times.
>>11372370669% consistent. Gigi isn't far behind either. As for the rest well...
>>113723918everyone below 40 needs to drop out, their heart clearly isnt in it
>>113724208
>>113713895Only Calli could probably match their work ethic. Even then JP always has the home turf advantage unlike EN who barely has any support in their home countries.
>>113723918Does this count "rebroadcasts"?
>>113724208Years old? I could get behind that
>>113715779This pic is an apt description of why I got tired of EN after 2023. 2022 was pretty rough, but there were so many cool things from 2020 to 2022. That, and FWMC cut their streaming times in half and added on a heaping helping of ADS.
>>113724208Yeah it basically comes down to 2 days a week they do something >>113724373 rebroadcasts probably included(this wasn't mine). Biboo and Gigi meanwhile come out to 4-5 days a week of activity in this period. And there are already plenty of charts showing the hours those two put in along with the next block. Half of EN is just coasting or worst still slowing down.
>>113724782>2 days a week they do somethingYou think that's bad? The most subscribed "active" hololive member streams 2 times a month on average.
>>113724824>If you don't like shit, imagine getting this shit!Kill yourself
>>113724824Marine streamed twice in the last 3 days. Why do you fags insist on telling the laziest lies possible, put some effort into your lives jfc. I don't approve of your behaviour, yet I'm still disappointed in your lack of motivation
>>113724929Now how many times did she stream in the past two months before those two streams?You fags always act like this RIGHT AFTER she has streamed but just scream schizo anytime she's gone for over a week and it gets pointed out.
>>113724929Nice cherrypicking fag.
>>113725008>>113725041
>>113725096Concession accepted.
>>113724208Kronii is protected by Sora. In my opinion ERB is the one who selectively cruises by due to other RM deals. Anyone below her is a red flag problem. Ina gets passes if she is doing any JP projects being the first choice EN representative
>>113725153>incapable of imageboard banterYou've been a terrible disappointment, anon.
>>113725200>I'm just le bantering!Try making an actual argument next time, simp
>>113725246I look forward to seeing you crying again soon[Captain's 7th Anniversary - August 11th]
>>113692103>i got into vtubing/hololive because i had lost interest in other hobbies and with the debut in myth i could actually watch their streams entirely.>but now with them just not streaming I'm regaining interest in my past hobbies>sucks though because they literally don't have a reason not to stream.Is this guy a time traveler from 2022 or something.
>>113725293Oh so she's no longer having a birthday live, huh? lmao
>>113693606>apparently bc burnout hort.Most of these girls aren't that creative and the same feedback dynamic wherestreaming=money to live for small vtubersstreaming=lots of male attention for small vtubersstreaming=those 2-3 chatters whose comments you really like are going to show up for small vtubersAnd other incentives don't exist for big vtubers. Look at how Filian just disappeared totally after making a bunch of money. She's got thousands of retards paying her bills and calling her name but she knowsnone of them.When the parasocial relationship only goes one way it feels like your ATM is making demands of you, small vtubers are more likely to do it consistently and gratefully because they see the same few dozen chatters and those chatters fork over a few thousand bucks per quarter for them to live.Big vtubers do not have these needs or problems or wants. They ran out of new content and don't feel like thinking of more because the bills are paid either way.Hololive also has the tendency to recruit women who are solid on paper but not that interesting or creatividad in reality, women who are creative or interesting tend to be crazy cunts like GG and she has a lot of antis from the "I want seiso (boring) girls" fanbase. So they run out of ideas and then you complain when they don't stream.
also this exemplifies why their current hiring schema is stupid as fuck and they need to kick the ass of whoever thought "a new gen every 2-3 years" was a good idea, since it obviously creates an overtaxed organization suffering from burnout when you have no new blood coming in.
>>113725324>There will be a 3D live stream on YouTube that night!
>>113692103They can't stream for you because they're too busy suing anonymous critics. Please have some respect for the lawyers, who need to eat, too.
>>113692103Watch small corpo or indies. You have to filter through a lot of grifters but you'll find some real special girls through all the trash. If you like idols I rec Lazuli or Mivi Aivori
If I had fans like the posters ITT, I wouldn't steam either. Remember, they're doing you a favor by entertaining you, vtubers might as well be adult daycare workers.
maybe do something else in your life then you autistic faggot? go outside, take a bike ride, play some vidya.
>>113727698>they're doing you a favor by entertaining youyes, more of this, this kind of delusional simping is why i still come to this basket weaving forum
>>113692103The fucked up part is that even if you fuck off to watch indies, they do the same. They try to emulate hololive so they take extended time off to attend smaller cons with areas just for them, or meet and greets, or do concert/music stuff too and the stream frequency is basically the same as holoEN. What ended up happening for me is the same: started watching anime again, some manga, I've been playing even more games lately too and even dabbled on doing some streaming myself. For entertainment I've basically defaulted back to watching the same dudes on twitch that I've been following for like 10 years now. Incredible how those dudes can remain consistent for that long but vtuber women just can't. I come back to watch biboo if I need a holoEN stream to wach because she's the one I like the most and she's like the only one that is consistent in the entire branch, and I'm 99% sure it's because she moved to Japan very early on so she doesn't need to waste time in airports and traveling in general.I dunno why Cover doesn't force holoEN to move to Japan, at least for a year. Make it mandatory, it would avoid so many problems. Maybe the next batch of girls they pick will already be living in Japan, hopefully.
>>113725375The fuck are you even saying? Who's burning out because not enough vtubers at the company??
>>113692103Biboo, Nimi, Gigi, Shiori and Kiara are still streaming regularly what's the problem?
>>113729034>NimiNot Hololive, she's garbage
>>113692103It's L I T E R A L L Y okay when Holos don't stream
>>113728679>Because she moved earlyDon't look at FWMC, Bae, or Nerissa
>>113692103For me it was them calling out what they perceived as incels in the fanbases.
>>113728680Mori has literally said she tries to fill gaps and wants an EN5 to help. Plus she is one of five total actually trying to keep EN on screens and relevant>>113723918
>>113736373Don't you know, according to retards here what really draws people in is the middling dancing and singing. The rest is bullshit that doesn't matter.
>>113736691Honestly I do still watch Bae for what she's working on and the dance shorts. My oshi however can do no wrong and I happily wait if she's somewhere but thankfully she streams a lot anyways. Everyone else though I just want streams to fill the gaps and variety of choice if it's a shit game or theme.
>>113733507Hit a little close to home, eh mate?
>retard makes a shit thread>gets no (you)s for over an hour>board is so dead he's able to come back over an hour later and bump it himself
The EN experiment has failed. JP is the only way to go and even then, some of them are just as lazy. When Advent debuted, I had some hope but Nerissa and FWMC stopped streaming and Shiori was a Homocollaber. Justice was a disaster from the start. Either learn Japanese or abandon this hobby.
>>113737124Not everyone visits this dead board every day
>>113736373To help with what?
>>113739346Help to fill gaps. If the others won't stream for whatever variety of reasons, then another gen would be a shot in the arm for some variety in the barely covered timeslots if they want eyes to stay in Hololive EN.
>>113692103>>113693606seethe more nijikeks.
>>113692103>nglstopped reading here. opinion disregarded
>>113692103welcome to the club, I essentially dropped my oshi for the same reasons. Lack of streams means lack of care from me, because I don't care all that much for the idol shit. It's nice at times, but I have much better music to listen to when I'm in the mood for it.
>>113709478Myth just need to graduate. Become a Myth in hololive.
>>113745578Based. If we boycott the non-streamers they will eventually learn.
>>113692103>>113693606>>113694044>>113694047>>113696226>Certified Birgit and Roli thread Just how many times do you need to be told to fuck off for you to understand ?
>>113747086>everyone I don't like is Birgit and RoliYou're a schizo but also a retarded cuck for white knighting these lazy whores who don't even want to do the bare minimum.
>>113747086Rent free.
>>113747086Since when did Holofags start killing off their longest active fans because green woman isn't allowed to grift?
>>113747086I'm neither of those guys anon, I don't think either of them watched Bae. God forbid I vent about why I stopped following someone I previously enjoyed in a thread where it's the topic. Would you prefer I shat up /rrat/ instead?
>>113750414nta but I read your initial complaint and Bae has a newer schedule where she streams 3 times a week minimum (emphasis on this word) on Sat, Sun and Mon. Those days have a 100% guaranteed stream rate, and If she has more time, she will squeeze in more streams during the week and schedule them days in advance, like today. She implemented this schedule because she realized that she took too many work weeks off.This schedule has been in effect for 2 months now with no cancelled streams on the weekends so far, and she has no plans of dropping it for the foreseeable future. Just wanted to let you know is all.
>>113729034>BibooThe only consistent EN streamer>NimiNot Hololive>GigiLoud and obnoxious. She's more like a Nijisanji vtuber than a Holo vtuber>ShioriHomo collaborator and a total whore.>KiaraME ME ME MEHey go to Maldives with me or else I complain on stream about how you rehecjed my invitationAlso, did you know I stayed in a hotel with a random man. I barely got any sleep because I had to take care of him.
>>113727698>I wouldn't steam eitheryou leave Gaben out of this
>>113692103>>113693606Seen this larp too much already, anon.
>>113692103I still watch EN but it's really pushed me away from holos I used to like but they just don't stream enoughBetween Biboo and IRyS I usually have a stream to watch every couple of daysOther than those I listen to JP holos sometimes or watch more anime than I used to
qrd? on this "birgit" i keep hearing abouti know roli but who this?
>>113752909this desu
>>113754422no one important
>>113737103Vtubing was built on lonely men so it is irritating for me when these abusers forget their place in the industry and what their occupation is.
>>113754422/grun/ schizoBasically imagine Brownfeet but for CC
>>113753563I've seen you too much already anon, go away.
>>113728679>extended time off to attend smaller consat most it's a weekend. everyone i'm watching who left for offkai has already started streaming again or will in a day or two.
>>113692103>>113693606I seriously hope you guys are not paying any of these streamers.
>>113754422Birgit and Roli are the same person. Both are from Germany and use the same talking points in their seethe
>>113758234fdund was right in the end though
>>113692103I just watch VODs. I used to live watch while live posting with anons, but this whole captcha shit made me stop. I miss the time where they won't even need you to solve one if you've been posting a lot.
>>113761252>I miss the time where they won't even need you to solve one if you've been posting a lot.
>>113761252the captcha is an iq test and you failed
>>113692103>>113693606>these are the men that say female fans are "trend hoppers" and don't stick with their oshi when male vtubers disappoint their fans
>>113737124KEK this thread is older than some generalsIt's insane how you can identify schizos these days by if the thread keeps getting page 10 necrobumped form days Pretty soon a fourth of the catalog will be nothing but /grun/ schizo threads getting necrobumped
