The only EN5-tier indies left.
no thank you, I'd rather they stream
>>113898959I'm not even aware of Emi's sins as Mariya in v4mirai but I hate the performative flowery language she always tweets with
>>113898959>Join Hololive >Try to stream like you did before >Be forced to do yuribait and idolshit>Forced to do nothing but sponsorships and merch shilling >Get tried of it>Start streaming less>New fans start complaining >Tell them to fuck off>Go on long breaks to get away from it all>Holo fans start begging for a new gen>Holo starts auditions again>Be indie/small corpo>Shoot your shot at joining Hololive >Submit application >*rinse and repeat*
>>113899230>the performer is le... performative
I don't even know who this thread is trying to bait
>>113899282This sounds about right although the company culture and management plays a huge part in it as everyone who left cited it as their reason to do so
>>113899282TRUTH NUKE
>>113899282just making shit up
>>113899282True
>>113899282Raden was free to say she doesn't like to even pretend to do yuribait and apparently no one gave her grief for it.
>>113899282Yep pretty much
>>113899282this, I'm pretty sure none of the fans of the girls in the OP want them to join Hololive
>>113898959>EN5-tier indiesLMAO
>>1139038991 man vs a whole ass boardWho would win?
>>113898959They don't live in Japan
>>113903390Essie can screw off to Hololive since she’s a clout chasing whore who cares more for noombers than the quality of her community.Raki and Lazu I’ve known for years and deserve far better than a depressing fate like that.
>>113898959Their concert at offkai was poor quality
>>113903899niggas love him
>>113898959Look at some of the girls who have gotten in. "Holotier" is extremely variable, so you can't really predict it.
>>113898959Does Hololive want the frat boy audience?
>>113898959Who are they? I only know Essie and Pillow, and im pretty sure the raccoon on the left is corpo
>>113899282this desu
>>113899441The new meta is baiting indiefags because all the holobronies who cared left for greener pastures long ago
>>113899282>Join Hololive >Try to stream like you did before you join hololive to do idolshit and work for the company100% /lig/tard mentality 100% benefit 0% responsibility mindset
>>113898959love 'em, but would immediately ditch them if they graduated to join hololive as it kills any uniqueness and creative streams
>>113901528I think there is a ton of variation in management's effectiveness between members.>Luck with how good the assigned manager is>How good the member herself is at pacing herself and saying no>Luck not getting attention from higher level managers who want to do lots of company streamsI think most of the JP old guard know how to play the game, that's how you get stuff like Ayame who streams little, but consistently and seems happy and stable with the arrangement.But the EN side by comparison is a total mess. Lots of wet blankets who don't know how to say no.And there isn't really an 'old guard' to talk to and get advice from.Calli would be the closest from Myth, but she's not mentally suited for that role, and due to her personal circumstances in the company she doesn't match well to a generic streamer member.Kiara is menhera and Ina mostly keeps to herself and seems to be trying to go for the Ayame style, but isn't good at it yet.Council is fucking dead. Bae is a total wet blanket with management.Kronii might actually be developing some competence at handling management, but she's not going to go out of her way to help others.Irys due to the whole VSinger thing is also probably not a good match.In short, EN does not have 'Senpai' who can help learn how to deal with management the way JP has.
>>113898959Cover should have scouted them a year ago, now they see Indies rise without them
>>113903899how does he get so much vtuber pussy, is he sykkunos apprentice?
>>113909204He gets 0 pussy and throws names around for attention
>>113898959>5 gigawhores + pillow who is already doing greatno thanks
>>113901528She is a DEV_IS, she is not expected to cater to holo's usual yuritard audience
>>113909757Could've fooled us with the lyrica outrage
>>113898959i doubt that anyone except 0view vtweeters want to join hololive at this point
>>113899282Holy mother of TRUE
>>113898959Lmao I don't know anyone in this image. Try again.
>>113898959offkai whores have no chance lmao
>>113898959>indiesCover's hired vtubers from small corpos before.