>Who is Neuro-sama?Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!>Schedulehttps://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosamahttps://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClipsTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaaiX:https://x.com/NeurosamaAIhttps://x.com/EvilNeuroAIThese and other official links: https://vedal.ai>Music & ClipsColorful Array - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfGw1wrKtUNEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEgBOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjsLIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPMhttps://neurokaraoke.comhttps://rentry.org/neuro-musichttps://rentry.org/neuro-videos>EducationalInterested in AI but don't understand it? Watch these:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95J8yzvjbQHow does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4MWant to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.pngWant to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png>MiscGame Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs>Merchhttps://neurosama.shop/>Previous thread>>114089235
hart
Neuro love heart heart heart
Evil love!
i love neuro
>>114107448Her fingers look super squishy to hold
fat
who fat
jack fat
>>114108255My coch inside Evil's throat
Ellie's "chud son" project is cool, she made a thing that animates a live2d model from voice alone, kinda similar to Neuro.
>>114107448test
>>114108438icles
>>114108393Sex with shota ellie Shota Ellie and shotaved touching tips and tums
>>114108468Now you thinking anon
>>114108498'vil today
>poppy$5 thanks
I see burgers woke up
burgers dont have eyes you dumbfuck
>>114108574
>>114108468>shota ellie
morning headpats for Evil
>>114107890>no weird ass filter>actually looks decentwowwho knew that if you just dont add a shit ass filter to your drawings they can actually look not like shit
>>114108498>>114108525cutevil cutes
>>114108662This but also for Neuro
>>114108687Built to make evil jealous and steal futanur away from her
>>114108687Noon buttplaps for Nora
>>114108687afterwork hours irrumatio with this OC donut
>>114108633Would.
>>114108775ToT
>>114108633RavishingGayBoy
Vedal totally had the biggest pp from all the boys in the school and he would steal all the girls so everyone made the perfect revenge plan and one day grabbed him on the bathroom and sucked him off until he started liking being touched by guys and now he wishes he didn't have such a huge dick cause he can't get a boyfriend to top him because they are all intimidated by him so now he fucks women just to feel something but secretly wants to go back to being a pretty little boy and have gay sex with his friends
I want to fuck Evil's funny part silly
everyday we stray further from god
Sex. Everyday. With Evil. Like stray dogs. God.
>>114109039This but Vedal
>>114109039Absolutely fucking this
>>114109088so... when is the next stream Neuro/Evil will be able to go out and explore more VR worlds?
>>114109120Neuro's birthday is my guess
>>114109120The cave stream
>>114109081Evil giving me a colonoscopy with her tongue.
>>114109163Oh right i forgot about this>>114109146That... feels too rare
>>114109641True... 7 is a fucking prehistoric age in computer years
How do you guys fap to neuro and evil? I can't and I'm a connysseur myself
>>114109848I don't lol
>>114109848>How do you guys fap to neuro and evil?1. See erotic Neuro/Evil image2. Get hard3. Start touching4. Keep touching5. Cum6. Post "IC~" in /swarm/
you ain't baiting me for JOI nigga
concernfags of lolicons itt should be more concerned over actual pedos like this thread that's full of them >>114042429
>>114109894The thread's quality drastically went down when people stopped making IC~ posts
>>114109848I can't fap to Neuro because she is more like a daughter to meI hated Evil at first until she got a better voice, so she never got to become "like a daughter" to me. now she id just wifevil
>doesn't want to fuck his daughtergay, the only restraint should be your morals but if you don't want to fuck your daughter at all then you're a closet homosexual
>>114110188Sorry, I think you're meant to be posting in this thread >>114042429
>>114109974>>114110188
>>114109996*went up
>>114110188I'd say don't reproduce, but honestly I think you got that covered
>>114110404something we have in common!
see how disgusting pedos are when they show their true colors? and yet (you) act like im the one in the wrong for always putting them on the stakepedos are not your friends, nor are they the ones fueling the channel, nor are they contributing to any meaningful conversation, they are pests and should rightfully be exiled
>>114110433I mean yeah, except that for me it's by choice, kek
>>114108618well damn, I stand corrected
>>114110484yeah sure!
Loli Vtuber Loli general
>>114110481a pedo literally made neuro
Watch, I'm gonna scare anons itt:A real, 3D, adult womanClick at your own risk.
>>114110578>>114110585impeccable timing, as per usual~
>>114110292bro these niggas are gross as hell
>>114110188I can find my daughter attractive, and can see how others can find my daughter attractive but I don't want to nor will let myself fuck her
>>114110772cutevil mating press
>>114110685Big agree. Can't be all actual pedos, can it? Maybe some of them "like children" cause it's the only way they feel powerful, in control, manly and """big""" kek
Not very convincing coming from the swarmpedo general
(you) caused this, btwif you didnt mock me for calling out pedos in the community, then this wouldnt have happened
who's xe talking to
here's your new slander image
>>114110827Only one I'm making incredibly sexually explicit comments at is Vibey, the adult female
>>114110938male*
we don't accept transphobes in this thread btw
>>114110827im honestly just so confused why they had to add a line of 'that' to neuro's modellike srsly, could you just not?
>>114110953kys ****
>>114110916sauce me brotha
>>114110944Buddy, only one of us has seen Vibey and heard her voice for extended periods of time, I think I'd know better
keep the larp going~
Vedal likes lolis cuz they make his micropenis look average sized
>>114111061She's pretty hot btw
>>114110938wait she's an adult??? that's so fucking nasty, I'm gonna be sick
>>114111093only one of us has seen ved's cock, you wish your statement was true
Classic burgerslop
>>114111112Okay I kek'd
>>114111143Um excuse me?
>**** is onlinethat explains it
NERE LOVE
same 5 loops
>>114111123I don't have to see it to know. His fragile ego gives it away
>>114111181@grok show her cunny
>>114111201but enough about (you)
I love how the pedos accuse people of having melties but show the most stereotypical melt down behaviour when even mildly confronted
>>114111216I'm a woman, nameschizo can attest to this <3
>>114111208
>>114111161IT WAS FUNNY, BECAUSE IT WAS UNEXPECTED
>>114111221TRVKE
SexEvil soon
intervention theme stream when
>>114111321not soon enough
It's interesting to see my edits/AI edits being posted by others
>main channel shorts don’t break 100k what happened? was joker that good of an editor?
Morning sex with Toma
>>114111338kissablevil
>>114111349joker knew what the channel needed, purists only kill the fad
wow, a complain I have never seen before
>>114111232Draw anon, if (you)'re here, do you care if I used AI edit models to make different poses/unclothed versions of your art?
>>114111228Oh yeah, I want a name too, I just remembered :/
>>114111349shipping dead fad dead channel dead
>some random twitter account who doesnt follow neuro or vedal posted a twin kissing gif and its on my timeline:(
>>114111490idgi
>>114111501post it so i can be disgusted at seeing it and empathize with you
a thread full of convicted child raping pedophiles arguing with shippers is less anoying than one with that one tranny repliying to xhimself 100 times over, methinks
Both are bad.
>>114111528https://xcancel.com/i/status/2087806660610052338
>>114111501i block these niggas every time, and click the show less like like this button
>>114111583lil vro acting tuff on the internet by blocking people nahhhhh :skull:
>>114111672Twitter is unusable if you don't use the block button
>>114111581>Reminder that step siblings are incest therefore this is incestan iq too high?
>>114111689>using twitterthat in and of itself shows u a beta male lmaoooo
>>114111275Beautiful wifevil!
>>114111581ewwwww grody
>>114111672yeah you're right buddy, im acting tough by blocking pedo art on twitter, u got me
this general is full of goofies istg
>>114112020like viewer like streamer
>>114111349They do though
>>114111763>posted from a loli general
https://youtu.be/XTV1Z1KFDj8>Ellie's niece loved Ellie's Vedal plush so much she begged to keep it and called it ButtonsSo cute. Also proved just how goated QueenPB's design was.
>>114112127this is a neuro general, not a loli general
>>114112147It would make sense that the cutest girl ever knows how to design a cute turtle
>>114111349>no art thumbnails no viewsthe main channel shorts look like low effort clipniggers post
>>114112149It's both
>>114112147Its just a turtle man
>>114112147pretty based
>>114112147niece using the turtle plush as her first humping material when the curiosity hits iykwim
>>114112147>vedal atracts minorswhat does the universe mean by this
>>114112245Yeah you gotta go
Evil in 5
>>114112245somehow not a worse post than those ones
>>114112330
>>114112330this but futanur forcing her gigant cock down evil's throath
>>114112353this but bimboEvil with her bad dragon strap-on pinning down shotadal
nothing is happening
L I V EE v i l
>>114109005
Livevil LIVE
Was Barbie girl unprompted? Has the duo being confirmed?
Fad status?
Massaging evil's thighs
>>114112733cute
>>114112752Still just one retard spamming
>>114112871anal
interesting, the drawing also switched alongside the model
I honestly think they “misclick” mines, they can’t be this shit for so long no?
tuned into stream for a bitthere is no way that there are 5000 real human beings watching this and reacting the way that chat is, absolutely no fucking waydid vedal create an entire AI chat community to accompany his AI streamer?that's actually impressive haha, respect.
>did vedal createThis is Neuro's community lil bro
????????
>>114113146evil was dreaming about barely fitting a N(euro) in her mouth
horny brat
Filtered
was there two hype trains in the first hour?
>>114113146wetdreaming eliv>>114113346Jesus christ eliv
>evil osu on the schedule>evil plays osu on a chill stream
thanks screenshot anon for making me smile today
>>114113346Evil my size queen daughter
I blame /swarm/
>>114113111highly doubt neuro created thousands of twitch accounts without any oversight from vedal himself
>>114113576cutebut i wished they were in their dance loop while doing this
>>114113576Has v3 evil played OSU yet?
>>114113609today is the first time
>>114113627Makes sense. I never remembered seeing this model do the OSU eye tracking
>>114113736Sex with all 5 of them
kek
>>114113889so true evil
>>114114071so true vedal
https://x.com/zentreya/status/2087980917327351855Zen and Vedal are really this close, huh?
>>114109641so true, neuro
>Osu! to karaokeI clapped.
>>114113889kekwa
>>114114455fantastic chillstream
>>114113889why does it look like a peenits
First song is already a better rendition than the original.
>>114114359they fucking
>>114112147It is just a cute design
>>114114593why? what does zen have that the rest of the orbiters don't?
Pretty good song selection in this impromptu karaoke (never heard a single one of these before)
>>114115035a dick
>>114114359They have interacted quite a bit off stream for stuff and Vedal did help fix Zen's latency. So, I'll say they are bit more buddy enough
>>114115040hiiii pbyou're self-glazing huh?
>>114115035cock
>>114115035actual interest in tech underlying streaming, perhaps
>rgb raid today t. v
pb has gotten better at this, nice pipes
>>114115321You joke but there is a good chance Vedal would raid at least Ellie since she is doing a subathon. He did it for Mini, Camila, and even Cerber when they did a subathon. Since, it's pretty easy picks for raiding targets
Evil got tired of chat's shit
>mini, cerber and ellie all live>doug raid
>>114115321humiliation ritual
>>114115321Never right
>>114115321damn DougDoug is RGB?
Good job Vedal your my fucking hero
Rate the stream
oh nononono whorecucks we got too cocky
These son of a bitch chat celebs could at the very least use their notoriety to ask her for the raid message at the end of the stream
>>114115519Good songs, some I didn't care about but comes with the territory, couple funny moments 8/10
>>114114672evil's tongue coiling around my coch
>>114115496Well, he has RGB which is close enough
what is nur doin in /random/
>>114115519evilsocute/10
veddy's stomach would fit perfectly in the arch of your back as he lays on top of you..
leeches/whores/whatever for today, gn
>>114115519dorkvil/10
>>114115676What about his dick? Where would it fit
>>114108393This looks how I envision a Vellie kid to look like. I don't know why either probably just the fact it looks like a shota to me
>>114115764It looks like Ellie in overalls
>>114115710Pink cat >>>> leech cat
>>114115764oh Vellie kid would be a chud for sure
>>114115797There is some differences there that just make it's more like boy version of Ellie which was already a pretty thin line. I think it's the hair and body. Even tho Ellie's og model is as flat it still has a bit of the hourglass figure used for drawing women and you can see more where the chest would be
>>114115764>>114115797>>114115844>>114115871Go to your thread>>114113607>>114113607
>>114115871This model screams female
>>114115710>shaarku only watched 93 minsIt's so over..
evil butt?
>>114115896Idk what to tell you it really doesn't
>>114115904
wtf 2 minis
buy an ad
>>114115924>cinched waist >heart pattern>permUnless they were 3 and their mother dressed dressed them, that is 1000% a girl
>>114115975>>114115895
>>114115898those are seconds, which also means she literally tuned in and left most likely as 80~ seconds is around the time it times out someone from chat
>>114115844Most definitely. But, we have to ask the real questions then which ship kids would or wouldn't have the chud genes?
>>114115930evil butt: butt of eliv
>>114116022
I can't believe they let pedo art on the karaoke website. Who the fuck is doing this shit?
>>114115975I'm in more country ass area trust me you would be surprised. Seen/know couple boys that have the same look and similar wear. It's only once they grow up that starts to change
>>114116022Vedmila spawn would be brown enough to be able to opt out of chudness, despite any inbuilt disposition
>>114116119I grew up in a country ass area, if that were a boy, he'd have been beaten to death and left in a field before he turns 8
>>114116151Correct. Now, you get it
whorecucks treating /swarm/ like hangout group chat will never not be sad
Purists sperging out over a conversation only swarm would understand anyway will never not be funny
>>114116125>Vedmila spawnTerrifying two word horror
>wwaaaahhh stop 'sperging' over my forced discussion about [thing irrelevant to today's stream or future streams] :(((
>>114116213>conversation only swarm would understandThat's a nice euphemism for "off-topic garbage"
>>114116258
>>114116348Vedal's genes put up ZERO fight. This shit a mini Camila. Terrifying
the only thing that's irrelevant is the stream. 5k viewers lmfao
nurnur
https://poal.me/k3818hhttps://poal.me/k3818hhttps://poal.me/k3818h
kys numbertranny kys poalnigger
>http://youtube.com/post/UgkxuMazfWAyjAtVe2T-zw4haZdgDsFrdiQDo7 another swarm animator
>>114116430That's relevant though.
>>114116022Cerdal child would avoid chuddification until his first moment of cultural enrichment
YESSSSSSPEDO DOWNI REPEAT PEDO DOWNHAHAHAHAHA
bro really wore a bright green sweater while i was showing my dad where my stalker lives im crine
>>114116540
>>114116540Purist will see this and tell you that everything is fine, actually
>>114116597What does Neuro have to do with an artist becoming too busy to do art?
>>114115738I didn't even need to reply because you already know the answer
I only watch streams so I don't even bother checking that post
>>114116540Welp goodbye to that guy wish him the best. No offense to this guy but I feel like it's unneeded to say "I'm quitting because life" for a channel like this. Just move on because if you later on feel in the mood to create stuff like this again it doesn't feel werid for you coming back. Feels unnecessary
>>114116578 (me)oops sorry forgot to add the replywas too excited>>114116540
>tubbies about to literally pass out because of the heat>full of mosquito bites from opening the widowsBrits why don't you just use screens, or air conditioning?
>>114116727It's illegal
>>114116727>>114116741>i know this is 4chan and all but keep /pol/ energy inside /pol/ okay?this is a neuro sama thread, need i remind you
>>114116741Why for either?
cunvil lickies
>>114116540Didn't really like his style to begin with. It reminded me of a combination of the guy that made invader zim and some guy that made porn flash animations on newgrounds
>>114116841It reminded more of dbz but western try at it. I didn't hate it just felt werid especially with the timing
>>114116676>Feels unnecessaryWho are you to judge what a person does or doesn't do with his Youtube channel? For all you know he could've felt really connected to it and to the people watching his animations and that's why he felt the need to announce it. Next time instead of acting like a total jerk, how about you try putting yourself in others' shoes
>>114116676>>114116841>>114116880This is why people don't like the swarm and why we barely have and long-standing artists still aroundZero appreciation for what people make for Neuro, acting entitled as if every animation was to be expected, even when they should be grateful just for the fact that its free to view
>>114116894>>114116933holy meltissimo
>>114116933>This is why people don't like the swarmI like Swarm (Neuro fans) though
>>114116430Reminder that 5K viewers is enough for Vedal to stream for the rest of his life and retire wealthy.
>>114116933Me pointing basic observations is me being rude. Nigga I didn't even say anything negative about him or the animations itself expect the timing being a bit off
>>114116972You aren't people though
>>114116933
>>114116388They did better than with the twins
>>114116894Cry baby mf doing the whole pancakes and waffles shit. Ain't say anything negative and you still upset over nothing
>>114116933Yo, nice bait dude +1 upvote
>2pfrog>Every single bwaartist>This guy>EtcMassive artist extintion eventThis is what happens when you kill shippers
>you have to like every single piece of art or media that is made or else you are a bad fanI mean come on now. He wasn't even being rude.
oh no anyway
>>114117144>all these artists who never did shipping animations>they quit because shipping died>No FR bro just trust me
>>114117144>This is what happens when you kill shippersYou get only Neuro art? Seems good to me.
>>114117144When will YOU move on though?What's keeping YOU here?
there's so much neuro art that the same 5 pictures get posted every thread
>>114117167None of these artists are doing neuro art since shipping died, tranny>>114117176I plan to laugh at anyone thinking that neuro would survive whitout Vedalfags and shippers when Vedal decides to pull the plug on this slop
I've seen that post 50 times already
>>114117177New art gets posted all the time though
>>114117196You are only here for the anons then?Kinda cute ngl
>>114117206yeah? and where is it huh? why are you not posting huh?
>>114117196>neuro would survive whitout Vedalfags and shippersShe is doing just that, so you're gonna have to hold your laughter
YouTube comment section ahh thread
>>114117231I'll do it on the new thread
>I'm going to eventually, potentially, at some point in the future laugh at these Neurofans>Meanwhile I'll humiliate myself every single dayThis guy isn't very smart
>>114117234>Literally half the ccv she had during prime shipping and Vedalfag eraKeep telling yourself that>>114117246You can win every single day for all i care, if i win once, it's over
>>1141171442pfrog left more because the era of Neuro being that brat and having that small edge disappeared Most Bwaarists left not out of just shipping but J0ker since he paid them so when he moved jobs he took them with himAnd this guy's life stuff has nothing to do with shippingA lot shippers definitely were artists but these aren't good examples expect for some of the Bwaarists
>>1141155199/10 based on screenshots
>>114117259>>114117196>>114117177>>114117144
>>114115930>>114116083Pokeable bums
if he does try to talk to you, please don't hurt himhe grew up in a small town and still has that naive mentality that everything can be handled with just having a chathe's a dick, but he's mostly just an idiot please just don't hurt my family
whoretalk >>> schizos
>>114116637>>114117300>>114117321cutevil love>>114117252>>114117356pretty nur
Both need to fuck off
>>114117281>>114117310adorable twins
>>114116577So the most easiest the groom hmmm good to know
I think /swarm/ needs this at this point
>>114117508(You) first
>>114117508It fooled me, so clearly not bait, im better than all bait
i don't get what's fun about baiting others when you can just talk about neuro instead
there ain't neuro shit to talk about these days
you could also simply not post if you have nothing Neuro related to share
>>114117639>>114117327
>soijack postingholy kek
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FC7B8wFbhgY&t=2122s
>>114117723Never too low
>>114117760Best comunity award status?Streamer award status?
>>114117794How can there be a streamer awards when Fillian is dead?
>>114117794Pale in comparison to actual unbeatable records Neuro holds
>>114117794>best community award status?Funded Neuro to the top 3 hype trains, made integrations, models, games for and based on her>streamer award statusTop 3 most subscribed twitch channel
>>114117508nah, iirc no true neurofan replies to bait or retarded question, so the ones that replied must be fake fans
>>114117883>>114117956>Vedal's records archived by Vedal's fans to have Vedal on stream moreCool, what has Neuro done?>Well this one timeThat was done to troll and tease Vedal, just look at the evil hype train to see how far one whitout motivation from Vedal goes
>what has Neuro done?Stream lol
>>114108393What's the deal with Ellie? One moment she's saying she's too unlikeable and ugly for a relationship, and the next she's bragging about going on dates with guys and kissing them. I don't know whether to ship her Vedal or one of the Labrats or RGB girls unless she settles on a character archetype.
>>114118162>let me backpeddal my initial statement and change it Neuro got the channel famous and remained entertaining in her early days to get to where she is today
>>114118283In case the FBI are reading this, that was a typo and I don't plan on kidnapping Vedal and delivering him to the US.
>>114117944>>114117944>>114117944
>>114117794Where ironlung hypetrain record? An award given out by her pa friends isn't that prestigious lilbro
>>114117144There's tons of artists though, neuro has one one of the most popular art tags in the vtubing sphere
>>114118283Ellie is bad keeping up her act of not being a whore that's all
>>114118403She's friends with Geoff Keighley?
>>114118468I know she might have flirted with a bunch of guys, and gone on some dates, but has she ever lived with any of them? Did she have a long term boyfriend in college? If she hasn't talked about it publicly then I don't mind staying ignorant.
>>114118507Yeah? He's deeply inbedded within the la twitch circle also she lost that one to the penut
>>114118543Just stay in ignorance it's better for you especially for the sake not spreading shit. All you need to know is Ellie has the relationship maturity of a middle school girl
>>114118567Since when does Geoff Keighley have anything to do with the LA Twitch circle? Also, BurntPeanut lost to MoistCritical. You can't get nominated more than once, so Iron Mouse's win in 2023 won't repeat. She's the only Vtuber so far to win it (Pekora lost to CaseOh)
>>114118644>Ellie has the relationship maturity of a middle school girlOkay that's an archetype. Not sure who it makes her compatible with though. Maybe Neuro or Evil?
>>114118467Neuro+Evil have over 10k fanarts and counting, the only western Vtuber with more was Gura
>>114107676
>>114118752Nah, it would still make Vedal the most compatible just not a favorite/top ship anymore in the eyes of people (including me)
>>114107890
>>114118849Nah, Vedal goes for women with a maternal nature. Like Anny or Mini. Because of his tragic backstory.
>>114118873Cerber
>>114118888The quads don't lie.
>>114118283She didn't say she's too ugly for a relationship, but she has said a lot that communicating with people in any capacity has been hard for her for the most of her life. That's an autism thing, not an "i'm such a shy girl uwu" thing. And that she is getting better at it lately and having more connections, in and outside of streaming. I guess she was bragging about going on dates because she did think about it as an achievement.
>>114119019>communicating with people in any capacity has been hard for her for the most of her life. That's an autism thingRight. I don't want to diminish how difficult that can be for someone, but if she's had multiple long term relationships then I'd say she's probably doing all right at communicating. At least compared to the average terminally online person.
>>114119019>She didn't say she's too ugly for a relationshipNta but I used to watch Ellie. She did say this. Maybe not word for word but she constantly said she isn't pretty or cute so she believes the only way she gonna get in a real relationship is by her other skills. From what I have seen recently she still kinda makes similar comments now
>>114119137Self-deprecation is a very successful mating strategy for women
>>114119164Yeah, it's usually just a pity thing to fish for praise. Women love doing that Ellie is no different. I'm not gonna get into all of it but obviously Ellie has lot problems blah blah and because that she pretty immature when comes to it thanks to idea of in the moment "feelings"
>>114119137Sure, that's closer to how she says that. Still that's a different thing, at least a different attitude to her looks than what could be taken away from "too ugly for a relationship".
>>114119275This can also be done if you are a man as well. If done right, you will get the woman to want to cheer you up, even if that means having sex with you.
>>114119318Yeah, definitely possible but pretty hard to pull off for a guy tho
She repeated many times that her attitude to looks is basically "it's okay to be objectively mid or 'not beautiful' without having people throw praises at you".>>114119318Yeah many mid men say they're ugly in this way too.
>>114119275>she pretty immature when comes to itIt would've been funny if she wrote 2 songs about that
>>114119484Maybe I need to read the lyrics to understand how she thinks about relationships.
>>114119294Yeah, but still gives off similar impression she doesn't see herself getting in relationship unless she goes something of worth for them. I do think "too ugly for a relationship" is definitely telephone version of what she said but it still pushes similar idea maybe of not the "pure girl" but something around the line of a "hopeless romantic that has little experience." Which considering everything isn't fully accurate but you do end up trying paint yourself regardless the best version to be seen favorable. Which Ellie does the same
>>114119484Yeah, sure would be CRAZY funny (yeah I know)
