Shiki Katagami of FSP (IRL brother of Gavis Bettel, also known as "Bettel 2") grooms minors in his chat and doubles down when his fans complain, causing them to quit in protest.
How can we turn this into a way to get Bettel to graduate?
>>114110759No shot, Nijiniggers did worse shit and are openly friends with them.
>>114110710Known this for a while but he’s too irrelevant to get called out
>>114110710Who
>>114110710oh boy, male vtubing is a mistake
>>114110759Jesus, you didn't even wait one post before trying to turn it into a way to attack Holo
>guys don't be mean to the male vtub->he's in gfe fanbases trying to fuck the girls and trying to groom his underage fansWhy is it always 'nerd tinder' for them?
>>114110947>>>>>>>>>holo
>>114110710Sorry but I dont care.
>>114111066It's been known that dramafans (won't mention their other name) have been using Stars as a vector through which to attack Holo for years by now.
>>114110987If you’ve seen how much of a balding loser this man is he is in heaven right now
>>114111120If the drama gets bad enough it could cause a homostar death. Still don’t care?
>>114111182Then maybe Stars shouldn't be shit.
I don't get why older content creators are interesting in grooming kids. Its never them being into petite chicks or people in their early-mid twenties, its them always romantically pursuing teenagers.
>>114111182That's so bad, Stars should all be terminated so that doesn't happen
>>114110987there is literally nothing wrong with a male trying to fuck his female fans (18+) this is simply not a problem anywhere else but vtuber fans are sour grapes that hate to see another man get some pussy
Yeah the kid is EXACTLY 15, I skimmed through the VOD. It's funny because a timestamper on the comment timestamped every single time he talks with this kid.
>>114111509>ummm it's not a problem anywhere else you're just mad!Gonna laugh at Voxy when he becomes homeless in another 2-3 years. Shoulda gone to college, little bro.
>>114111516Screenshot it before it gets deleted or else nobody will go through it
>>114111516>it's realkek why the fuck does he say FIFTEEN YEAR OLD every time
>>114111509I'm pretty sure this is a problem everywhere else, especially when there's allegations that he's grooming kids.
>>114111562To Catch A Predator
>>114111516>a timestamper on the comment timestamped every single time he talks with this kid.Fuck, that's lowkey a power move.>>114111439But then you'd have nothing to shitpost about
>>114110710sounds like incredibly forced dramakids watch vtubers get over itif he's not saying or doing anything inappropriate then who cares
>>114111812NO! IF THE COURT ORDER PREVENTS ME FROM STALKING CHILDREN THEN THIS VTUBER SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO TALK TO TEENAGERS EITHER!
>>114110710Not sure how this even counts as grooming him talking to people in his own chat who are under 18 doesn't really seem to be some massive issue it would be a different story if this was like within dms or chatting in discord with each other.
>>114111812How would you feel if it was your daughter in his chat that he was talking to about personal issues? Wouldn't you be pissed?
>>114111888My children are not allowed on the internet until they are 18
>>114111888i'm sure all 75 of his regular viewers are appalled and will immediately drop him
>>114111888Personal issues? I don't want hear about her personal issues. Glad she found someone to talk to.
>>114110987>hey wanna fuck?>ok>GROOOOMEEEER!jesus christ, so sick of you kids and your hysteria
>>114112005>umm you kids with your hysteriagr**mer spotted
Doing this with the Chris Hansen movie coming out is wild
>>114111812Its fairly damning because in the timestamps he straight up mentions the phrase "15 year old" multiple times, not "why am I being lectured by a teenager" but the specific age multiple times. And when a paying member said>"Please stop pointing out the age thing, it's not a good look"He straight up said if they were uncomfortable they could leave the stream. On an unrelated note, I don't understand why women seem to like this guy unless the model is carrying everything so hard that they tune out everything he says. He seems to have the emotional temperament of a DSP and is outright hostile to his fanbase in more of a whiny way. And it doesn't seem like banter like an exaggerated tone, when he says "I'm gonna punch your lights out" it sounds more serious or like he can't stand them.
>>114110710>grooms minors in his chat>look inside>he reads their chat messages and answers their questions???? im being groomed by my oshi
>>114112229Ok so why did he keep bringing up their exact age multiple times? Would it be normal to do that for anyone let alone a minor? It's just weird that their age was always in his mind.
>>114112260its just banterdid he actually sexualize or flirt with the chatter or do anything like that?
>>114112287Even beyond the fact it *is* a weird thing by itself, Shiki should know that male chuubas are already seen with suspicion.
So from what I understandThe guys streams are basically 18+ content (sex jokes, encouragement to ship yourself with the streamer)His comments were harmless, but I guess it kind of shocked the fans that a kid was lurking amongst them, and the guy was clearly encouraging their presence not to mention saying FIFTEEN YEAR OLD LOL every single time he read his commentsA member then said>please stop bringing up the age, it's not a good luckand the fag sperged>if you don't like it leave the streamBasically I guess they just want the streams to be 18+ gatekept. I don't know how degenerate his content actually is but yumeshipping means shipping yourself with the streamer aka what Vox Akuma does.Honestly even if you flip the genders (which is 10x less bad because women can't rape men) it's still a bad look if some fansly thot panders to underage horny guys and encourages them to "ship themselves with her" right?
>>114112323>what Vox Akuma doesWhat do you know, another major sexpest predator guy who is dogged by accusations to this day of his bad behavior with women
>>114112352>his bad behavior with womenI mean, at the end of the day all the women he fooled around with were adults so at least there is that
>>114110710>Shiki Katagami of FSP (IRL brother of Gavis Bettel, also known as "Bettel 2") grooms minors in his chatI get that unicorns hate male vtubers but if some girl was spamming dumb questions to the guy over and over again most any vtuber would get annoyed. Asking him to ban all children from his chat isn't a realistic option and maybe he shouldn't have brought up her age but your attempting to start up a witch hunt. Male vtubers already walk on eggshells and let's be honest most Hololive talents have tons of children in their chat even while doing the business yuri jokes.
>>114112323>The guys streams are basically 18+ content (sex jokes, encouragement to ship yourself with the streamer)no where the fuck did you get that fromhe is bettel 2 for a reason, his content is just recycled bettel's
>>114112318>It's weird -> It's grooming -> I was raped.this thread is filled with zoomers
>>114110710All men have the potential to be sexual predators. Giving us any sort of power or influence just activates that dark side. It always happens, 100%, like a drug addict relapsing, unless there is some sort of powerful correcting influence like a wife or religion.
>>114112378>he doesn't knowlmaovox is a pedo
>>114112352Hex Haywire was even worse, fag literally played a "therapist" character and encouraged his underage fangirls to "vent to him" their private problems via superchats. And there was that cut4hex thing where his fangirls carved his name in their arm.
>>114112395No dude, it's just male vtubers. Don't generalize
>>114112217From the male vtuber fans I’ve seen they are so desperate for male attention they put up with this type of verbal degrading. They also see these corpo vtubers as of some higher status beings.
>>114112397You're on the Epstein list
>>114111509Yeah FBI, this guy right here
>>114112382>if some girl was spamming dumb questions to the guy over and over again most any vtuber would get annoyedIf you get annoyed, you ban them. Not interact with them.
>>114112217Don't dommy mommy vtubers do the same thing? They degrade men and act egotistical all the time and I never see anyone have a problem with it. Plus it's a trope and lore-related for him.
>>114110710cover took awfully long time to give homoen the cane. male should be purged from idol company until situation improve
>>114110710People really throw around the word "grooms" like it's nothing. Unless you're doing strictly 18+ content, there's nothing wrong with replying like normal to people in chat who aren't 18+. It'd be another thing if he was flirting with them or trying to get them to become his discord kitten or some shit.
>>114112514>Unless you're doing strictly 18+ contentHe is doing that
>>114112544What about it makes it strictly 18+ content? I don't watch the guy.
>>114112512>male should be purged from idol company until situation improveAnon should be forced to read a thesaurus until his English improves.
>>114112514>It'd be another thing if he was flirting with them or trying to get them to become his discord kitten or some shit.Like Vox Akuma? You know the guy who posted blatant pornography to Youtube and got 100's of thousands of underage girls watching? If you sexualize a minor, 20 years in prison for you. If you sexualize 1 million minors like Vox did, that's called good business amiright?
>>114112566he plays runescape
>>114110710
>>114112589The horror
>>114112323Your post is too sane. I don't think you belong here.
>>114112589Now thats fucking unforgivable
>>114112417This post is so fucking funny>This board: "Males [vtubers] are groomers and sexpests and other awful things! Women need to stay away from men!">"I agree men are awful">"Hey whoa wait I'm just talking about vtubers, not men as a whole don't say we're bad things :((("If you're any closer to getting it we'd be rid of 3rd wave feminism tomorrow
>>114112574>>114112352I thought Vox's problem was also the whole, "entering into DMs and sexting cosplay girls to the point of making your menhera girlfriend flip out" thing>>114112483Probably a different problem when you're now banning ~1% of your viewers. 2-low3view chats tend to be more wary about things like bans and don't usually have mods to make those decisions as far as I know.
>>114112574Oh hey ennaschizo made it to the thread
>>114110947homosister… this is pathetic
He must have been born yesterday. As soon as a minor reveals their age it's underageb&. You don't take chances with that shit
As the kids say, you guys are losing the plot. The problem isn't answering dumb questions from a minor, it's his adult fans sharing a chat with a minor while doing things on his channel that aren't minor friendly. No one wants to share a space with kids regardless of content anyway.
>>114112878they literally can't fire him nor can they say anything about him publicly, all because he has a holostar brother
>>114112944You vastly overestimate the weight of the holostars brand
>>114110710Its becoming hard to care when I know all of his actions wont be cared about and nothing will come of this.
You're all missing the best part of how fucking stupid this dude is:>paying member asks him to stop mentioning the minor in chat and their age>"If you're uncomfortable leave the stream.">multiple fans now leavingYou have to be an ultra Grade A retard to tell your paying adult audience to fuck off while continuing to bring up the 15 year olds age and interacting with them. Then again, he got the name Leechbert for a reason.
>>114113505>>114112878Probably the case of inexperience.This is his first gig vtubing, right? Outside of being a guest on Bettel's channel.
>>114112981Nta but no... FSP does...
>>114112507Usually it's them playing a character yeah, but it doesn't feel like a character or like you can hear a joking tone in his voice to let you know he doesn't mean it. He just sounds actually disinterested and angry.
>>114110947>holo
>>114111182Why do you keep saying "holo", the beggar cope term is HoloPro. Are you being disingenuous on purpose?
>>114110710Another corpo male vtuber outed for being blatantly sexpest but tell me more about how Saiken MD is a groomer and ruining vtubing just for existing?
>>114114040To be entirely I don't feel the distinction is super important. My point in the post was more that dramafans want to shittalk Hololive through Holostars.>>114114139But SaikenMD has a medical license and talks to a fuckload of indie girls so that makes his anti seethe.
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>>114114242Fuck dang, what having a good gimmick and being a collab whore do to a motherfucker huh...
>>114114195The only "proof" he has a medical license is from Nemo, an actual confirmed schizophrenic, seeing it.At this point I don't think he even has his own fans, just other vtubers who orbit him.
>>114114040They are holo though. It's in the name
>>114114242If he's a doctor he can afford bots this isn't the own you think it is.
>>114114269he streamed 5 times on youtube and has 2 collabs, that's 40% of his content sold by other people lmao
>>114114310KWAB
>>114110710in you dont have those problems
>>114114195not even indie, corpo girls too, even girls with fans who hate it when they show him attention so the fact he continues to do it and they continue to reward his behavior is extremely concerning
bro...
>>114110710Can we see it?
>>114111812>if he's not saying or doing anything inappropriate then who carespretty sure he's a bfe streamer, his content is from the start very much inappropriate for minors
>>114115294>he's a bfe streamerno, he just streams old games and slop of the month
>>114111714>But then you'd have nothing to shitpost aboutThat way, everyone’s happy. No more Homo, no more shitposters, and no more Holoantis like you and your fellow Starmins.
>>114114868So who do you watch that interacts with him? You aren't just a virtue signaling drama tourist, right?
>>114113909>it doesn't feel like a character or like you can hear a joking tone in his voice to let you know he doesn't mean it. He just sounds actually disinterested and angry.Hence the last part of my post where it deals with his character trope and lore. I assume you watch vtubers often. You know how when a vtuber really lives up to their character trope without even deliberately playing into it? Almost like a happy accident? Say there's a dog vtuber and they act really obedient to someone and likes physical affection from their genmate and you say "wow he/she really is a dog. Managers did a good job casting this one". It's kind of like that. Some parts, at least.
>You're 15yo?
>>114113909yeah because he's genuinely a bad streamer. he only got into that corpo because he's Bettel brother. same as the other homo who's related to Hakka
>>114115189This is the comment that prompted him to respond “if you don’t like it, leave” btw…
>>114112217>"I'm gonna punch your lights out" it sounds more serious or like he can't stand them.based
>>114110710>OP is blocked by people in screenshotKEK
>>114110710So what did he actually say? Why has nobody transcribed what he said yet?
>>114115693Hakka's brother was at least a vtuber prior to getting hired. And just from comparing their channels on Playboard, Leech must be horrendously unpopular even among the FSP fans because super chats tell the tale>Liron: $32k>Shiki: $9.05k>All their other genmates: ~$22k, ~$29k, ~$30kAnd looking at their 3D lives>Liron: 23K views in 4 days>Shiki: 23k views in 2 weeksHe's fucking terrible kek
>>114114242isnt this guy brown and asian
>>114116796I dare you to watch 10 minutes of him playing a game.
>>114116917all males are
>>114110710nothing about his behaviour is grooming or sexpesting, my guess is the ones complaining are trannies or women.
>>114116917korean+chinese, if you believe ithttps://x.com/saikenMD/status/2022777435272745029
>>114115425>Holoantis like you and your fellow StarminsI used to be a big Holo fan and I still like some of the girls but it could be said that a few things in Hololive and its fanbase kinda rubbed me the wrong way (unlike Bae who always rubs me the right way)
>>114116536I wonder what this guy does for a living sometimes>>114116968E-Even the white and tall ones!?
>>114117048did you just make a sex joke with Bae you sick fuck
>>114115465Thats true, but lore is just meant to be a goofy bit that vtubers can pull out as a gag to fall back on, or in some cases as a way to loosely describe their IRL life. But it also doesnt have to be that way constantly when their character is meant to be harsh, if a guy or girl streamer seems constantly harsh or disinterested in their chat, it's not going to make a good environment as a viewer.
>>114117071especially the white and tall ones
>>114112217>>114112260>>114112318you still haven't explained how mentioning their age constitutes as grooming or being a sexual predator btw
while i don’t think its grooming, its definitely not professional to interact with chatters you know are underage when your content and fan interactions consist of bfe and yumebaiting. especially when your core audience telling you to knock it off it’s really just not a smart move to double down on it
>>114115693Hakka’s brother is fine because he’s actually likeable and works hard. Shiki is genuinely terrible at streaming and too lazy to ever improve
>>114117171A lot of youtubers have young audiences, he could be generalizing their collective age to mock them. Unless he specifically knew the age of certain users then that might be weird
>>114117371>he’s actually likeable and works hardso he's the opposite of Hakka?
>>114117376he knew their age because the chatter themselves said it.
>>114117383What the hell are you talking about? Hakka indisputably streams the most out of Stars EN, is witty, funny, gets along really well with his chat, and clearly enjoys streaming.
>>114117383biboo and mori would disagree
>>114117376>entire audience could potentially consist of 15 year old girls that he mocks, degrades and misunderstands>"yo where are my cis males at, get in here and defend me"dire optics
>>114117383Saying he doesn’t work hard might be the weirdest possible claim you could make about Hakka.
>>114117525>>114117557>sisters meltylmao
>>114117525I don’t know if I’d call Hakka “witty”, but even if you don’t like him, his work ethic is undeniable. The guy streams incredibly consistently, does tons of projects, and also has lots of collabs and guest appearances. He is basically always working on something.
>>114117525>>114117689if only he had more than 500 viewers that gave a fuck
>>114117689>>114117716All I'm saying is that if we were to have a reverse-Miyabi situation where only one EN homo is left and the rest are fired, we could do a hell of a lot worse than Hakka.
>>114117790>reverse-MiyabiI don't know what this means, sister
>>114117716If even one person actually cared about your opinions you probably wouldn’t need to seethe about men who get attention from 500 women all day
>>114117557The catalog just kinda makes shit up about people and they run with it
>>114117853lurk moar, newfag
>>114117371Hakkas brother should work on not being obese
This guy's model has some godawful rigging. He's barely even moving. Might as well be a jpeg.
>>114117006Ascended from the dual hells of psychotic feminism and generational maidenlessness to become (You)r oshi's favorite. Hang it up, you never stood a chance. He humiliates you by simply existing. You might as well quit now, forget about vtubers and live the rest of your life in slightly reduced misery.But forever haunted by the memory of the time you were ruthlessly cucked by someone who doesn't even know you exist.
>streamer talks with a self proclaimed teenager (might as well be a 55 years old man larping) >in a private chat? no, in a fucking public stream >none of the topics are sexual in any nature>this makes him a groomer somehowNot like I give a fuck about anyone involved here, but having fans this retarded must be exhausting.
>>114117006Jesus. That's some brootal genetic lore.
>>114117853NTA but the only thing I could imagine is that Miyabi was the first to graduate after the downsizing announcement. He seems to be doing ok nowadays thankfully.
>>114111509/thread/
>>114110710The main thing I'm learning from this is that minors have stopped hiding their age if they're underage on the internet.
>>114111182>dramafans>attack holoThe dramafans ARE Whorosisters, anon
>>114117006>>114114242Damn no wonder /vt/ seethes at him he's Sykunno 2.0 and breaks the racist phasecel minds since they aren't white lol
Where is the actual stream in question with the person timestamping everything? Can't find it on his channel, no mention in the thread.
>>114111509>erm how does this affect you personally?
>>114110987Most men don't have real interests, hobbies, or objectives in life. They only care about two things, either impressing women or impressing other men.
not even a google docky... sisters you have to be better. come back with coordinated sexual assault allegations and we can really start the party.
Since that user kept mentioning their age, its probably an op to start drama, but spammers should be banned regardless.
