>Board said they'd kill hololive >Killed indie vtubing instead Cover was right to let them go, it only benefited them in the long term. How was /vtl/ so wrong?
>>114155074>>Killed indie vtubing insteadhearing holobronies try to talk about the world outside of hololive is always embarassing
>>114155074>Tags along with any vtuber or project she sees, nice personality does her best>Tags along with any vtuber or project she sees, just wants revenge on Nijisanji and makes poor decisions >Self sabotaged and prone to e-begging >Not sure what she does?>RIP>Only normal one of the group
>>114155074number retards said that
>Killed indie vtubing instead the fuck are you even talking about
Holoslop is less than 15% of global viewership btw Who actually lost?
>>114155370>Vshojo 2.0: this time with Kpop money>There's no way this won't turn into a trainwreck trust me
>>114155173>just wants revenge on NijisanjiShe has quite literally not acknowledged them publicly since they overlapped her with the infamous black stream
>>114155370I'm wondering when the indies will go and form their own corpo?
>>114155074>nimi tanks it by announcing she's getting creampied every nightthings are so absurd it would've been unfathomable to even write as a shitpost a while back
>>114155372All it took for streamcharts to arrive to that result was adding 8000 1 view indies to their charts. But since that didn't work they also had to add the fucking peanut who accounts for most indie watch hours and who is clearly botted.And despite this Miko and Pekora still dominate female streamer (not just vtuber) watch hours.
>board said
>>114155074Her collabs were good but she could feel they were forcing it a bit.
>itt browncords samefag about the imaginary groups they made up to seethe about dead board
>>114155629Holo (and other corpos) have cross fan migration. Fans are encouraged to visit other talents in the company. Indies try this but are still very territorial solo streamers fighting their own. Botting? Probably, somewhere in there.
>>114155629If hololive is botted how come they can fill 40k venues while nobody else can?
>>114156185synths
>>114155434It's just a music project with an already established end date, so not really. In theory, it's a good way for some newer girls to get eyes on them, though.>>114155473No real point. Large indies already tend to have the tools they need to survive and cross pollinate by doing collabs. They focus on actually streaming so they don't need all the bells and whistles that come with something like Holo. It's just far more efficient to hire a manager or small team than to give up most of their income to a group that provides nothing they couldn't get on their own. Sure, they probably won't ever fill a 40k venue concert or whatever on their own, but it's not like they need it when they spend all their time streaming. Seriously, what would a corpo even do for somebody who already has numbers and has no issue with sponsorships, corpo collabs, or merch?
>>114155074>Boardnumber monkeys whos thread loses to lig and phase every day said this
>>114155552When literally the only reason you're collabing with someone is "We used to be famous for being in a vtuber corpo!" it's a recipe for disaster. If you were truly friends with someone it would happen naturally but shit like this is literally just clipbaiting.
>>114155629>Hologirls are also bottedStop pushing this retarded lieYou’re probably a nijinigger or ohasecuck projecting
holotoddlers first bot innocent phase and indie chuubas so they can later bot their own holomems and go "it's those perfidious phasefags!"
>>114155442How fucking dare she ignore them
>>114156185>40k venues>Shows maybe like 4k people
>>114157769Holochads don't even know who you are talking about.
>>114155074You can't kill something that is already killing itself corpo vTubers are dying breed just accept it.
>>114155372/threadNo one cares about their niche corpo. Most people prefer indies.
>>114157838Call me when indies get a crowd this large
>>114162163
>>114162304No see, this actually happened:https://youtu.be/9yAUyrBddbQDamn, indietroon is losing it because his botting claims are falling apart
>>114155074Add ironmouse and Bao then you'll have a pic of who killed indie vtubing
>>114162514https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/music/2023/06/17/taylor-swift-draws-largest-concert-crowd-pittsburgh-history/stories/202306170068 This did too
>>114162657>Taylor Swift is an indie vtuberIndiefags can't handle reality anymore
>>114164818Take your meds hash schizo
>>114164818It's funny how you can see he felt the need to condense the post significantly since the last time he posted it, despite the fact it's obviously the same guy posting the same thread. When you type too much people lose interest.Though, I do notice a gap of 6 months between the threads, which also interesting. Means he decided this thread wasn't working and spent some time trying other methods, before returning to the ol' standby. I actually do the same thing when I repost threads on /tv/, if I see they're not getting many replies I take a break for a while. Then when I bring it back it's like a brand new thread cause everyone who would recognize the thread is gone.
>>114167200>>114167118>>114164877Samefag schizo
Imagine going into every thread and accusing everyone of being the same person
>>114155370Are they gonna get merch scammed again by the same guy?
>>114167200You can always tell when its this pathetic schizo, he spams these when she is gone more than a week and his bait never gets a bite either
>anyone that reuses the same image is the same person>I have been cataloging him
Northernlion's vtuber harem will continue to add more vtubers and kill Hololive.
>>114155370>indie>look inside>funded by kpop megacorpIndievenger fags are so fucking stupid lol
>>114155074>board said-I never said anything of the sort.
the second you see 'indie avengers' you know its #'s garbage, they're the only ones that called them that
Indiefags are delusional, so much so that they need to rely on excorpos to be relevant. Newsflash retards, if you need an excorpo to prop up your numbers by bringing corpo fans who won't even look at other indies into the mix then you've already lost.
>>114156486I like how you indiefags love shitting on the Japanese corps while simultaneously defending said indies taking money from a giant kpop megacorp that has done evil shit some of which borders on the comical because it was evil for the sake of evil
>>114168930But it is you. You're the one who spams about how "indievengers" are going to destroy hololive and then you later spam about hololive destroyed the "indievengers"Pick a side already, faggot
>>114155107FPBP the reason why Tower exists is because they couldn't handle exHololive stepping down from their golden throne.
Either way if this thread keeps being spammed then I'm going to keep saying Shachi has unironic autism.
>>114169203Not a vtuber fuck off
>>114155370>Kshojo
>>114156486It's nepotism wrapped in Kpop packaging, it's no better than vshitjo lmao
>>114168930>anyone that reuses the same image is the same personWe've been over this already. The fact that the filename doesn't change means it's the same person. If there were other people posting it, there would have been instances of the filename being different. But nope, 30+ instances all with the same file name.
>>114169188Or handle the reality that Shachi has autism.
>>114169277The real killer is that he cycles between the same images every time and uses the same posting styleIt's like how you can instantly recognize outfitschizo from the way he talks if you're not a neanderthal
>>114169277Everyone reposting an image with the same filename in the entire history of 4chan is the same person. We get it.
>>114169282You love drinking old men piss
>>114168930What!? Really !!!T. not Donie !
>>114169132>shitting onNone of that in the post.>anon getting upset over a music projectGenuinely what are you so mad over?
>>114169316I'll help you out here - the fact that you respond in this exact same way every time also makes it obvious you're the same person and not just some guy who saved an image and is getting caught in the crossfire
>>114155370I thought Rin Penrose was gender fluid? Did this bitch revert back to full girl after the money started coming in?
>>114155370God Rin's new model is so awful
>>114156185That's the Makuhari Messe and it's maximum capacity is 9k
>one retard accusing everyone of being simultaneously an indie anti/Mori anti/some retard nobody has ever heard ofGet a load of this schizo
>>114171646>actually there's several of us posting the same exact images with the same exact filenames>my /#/ echochamber opinions are very prevalent in the community and if you don't agree you are a SCHIZO WESTOID LIGGER BENCHOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>114155074I am once again reminded of that liggerflop concert with the hauntingly ugly 3d models. OP is right
I am once again reminded that Shachi is autistic.
>>114162657HAHAHAHAHAHA holy molyyour mind is clearly degrading. dont forget to dilate indiesister
>>114171771>sold out>"flop"I don't think you know what that word means
>>114171771>OP is right
>>114155503Abd each of these 1 views is better and more entertaining than your holo slop.
>>114171818lets humor the idea that they didnt lieit flopped in the sense that even the worst of standards werent met and even shit eating indie fans will think twice before attending another
>>114155434anon is actually just quoting John Vtuber herself
>>114172072>>114172120>Ban evadingSeek help schizo
>>114171818Don't look at the seatmap for Nimi's upcoming concertDoki's concert destroyed indie concerts
>>114155370>>114155074These aren't indies they all have managers and own their own companies
>HoloEN is not longer EN, they all retreated to japan>indie avengers concert almost sold out indie 3d spam is killing the one thing hololive had over them, the concept is becoming diluted which hurts holoEns EN expansion
>meanwhile
>>114175683Are we ignoring holodreams making 27 million dollars last week?Holoantis will probably rope once the next financial report drops
>>114175504>indie avengers concert almost sold out
>>114175683So this is why they are hiring pro idols to replace the amateurs? Pros won't fight back and will delivery consistent work without grief. No lore drops, no "brothers", no "managers", just pros doing pro work. Of course merch seems to bite the vtubing scene really hard. Even the corpos are having trouble. I don't know how they will sovle the merch issues?>Suisei's face yet againKek.
>>114175760look at the updated chart holodrone
>>114155074>>114155107hey you should kill yourselves just letting you know
>>114175888>L-l-look at the *sniffling noises* updated chart h-h-hholodroneStill fucking empty KEK
>>114175815Suisei was a money printer for Cover.
remember when schizo posting was funny instead of a vehicle for being an anti?
>>114175955literally more sales than the hololive concert the same day, hololive lost.
It’s so funny that the whole NA scene is dying, and all you guys argue about is who will die first.
>>114176051>Resorting to lying
>>114175888Is it too late to scalp tickets?
>>114176082Well its a hard place to be in. People are receptive to vtubers and you would be surprised who knows about vtubers too. Problem is there is a culture clash between how it's supposed to be done in Japan and how westerners want to do it. Some westerners use vtubing to break into fleshtubing and other endeavors. Its a big market untapped but culturally it's too wild.
>>114169052>indie avengersIt's definitely one of the gayest names ever created by fans. Where in the world does that sound cool or good in anyway?
>>114155074if anything is ruining the indiesphere it's bao with those bitchy girls, and anyone involved with anything ex-vshojo
>>114176640Fleshies basically?
>>114157563>retarded lie>has no proof that they aren't botted
>>114169988But that's wrong
>that one retard "spammed" like 3 postsHoomons truly are the worst and gayest fanbase.
>>114176446>fans
>>114176446only /#/donesians say that
>>114176640Kson started it
>>114155074Mint and Lime are doing fine with their sloppy sister collab group. Mint is doing especially fine thanks to ayamy spoonfeeding her merch collabs, I think she's on a vending machine at comiket right now lol
Mint and Lime are the only ones I like.
>>114162657¿Qué?
>>114155074Why is Lime there?
>>114155370yes i think this example you provided of a bunch of people whose big claim to fame is being formerly employed is a pretty good example of having killed indie vtubing
>>114175760Vegeta..we need to go somewhere else.. there's too many here.
>>114155074Yeah, Hololive is so much better now that all the talents are... a meme-spouting retard... a meme-spouting retard... a yuri-baiting whore... meme-spouting retard... yuri-baiting whore... um... we won!
>>114155107hearing /lig/tard talking shit about holofags even worse you knowlike a coal calling a pot black
>>114155372~80 talent vs 6k totalhaha the 80 only count for 15%cover doomed/lig/tard approved math+logic
>>114191898https://x.com/StreamsCharts/status/2084979985308413978/photo/1
>>114189067>now
>>114184844She has nothing to avenge herself, but she's supporting her friends' revenge.
>>114155074Avengers doomsday lmao
>>114155074Nooooo
>>114155074They lost
>>114155074They won.
>>114155074They Tied
>>114155370Why would I ever watch any of them? LMAO
>>114155442she doesnt have to, she lets the fagoon trash run rampant for her, and does nothing to curb them whatsoever
>>114162163my brother in christ, the EN girls couldn't even sell out a 10k
>>114162514and how does selling out a stadium refute botting claims? thats like saying since the superbowl sells out every team surely sells out all their games, when most of them play to half empty stadiums and get shit tv ratings
>>114175417This image is the blackest indie pill dropped this year
>>114176095You can tell most of the crowd regrets showing
>Lazy girls get hired>They get forced to actually do the minimum amount of work>"Nah this is too hard we are quitting actually">*indie worshippers cheer thinking that they actually get more streams now">They don'tImagine my surprise
>>114155074Indie vtubing was long dead when people like Bao and Shylily started.
>>114155370This
>>114155074miserable ass thread baiting people into doomposting and brown-soccer-fan-esque arguing over which team is better.the indie scene is fine. there will always be a sizeable audience for them. what's the point of seething and malding about your oshi being a top performer instead of just watching streams like a normal person?
>>114155074filian disappearing killed indie vtubing
>>114209271>said lazy girls do more than any holoENkekaroo
>>114155074>benefitSuch as?The financial report suggests that no, losing the best ENs only hurt them in the long term. Suggesting anything to the contrary at this point is just cope.
>>114209271what else do the voices tell you
>>114215374The OP knows literally nothing about indies and is just completely mindbroken by the best talents leaving HoloEN
n-nooo... she's supposed to hecking lose...
Nimi is so fucking ridiculously lazy with her content now. She’s absolutely coasting on who she used to be.
>>114222447Welcome to the world of retirement, where you do things at your own pace just for fun
>>114219322Yeah let's ignore how holodreams made up for that in mere days and is still printing obscene amounts of moneyYou'll probably rope next financial report
>>114223158>a gacha game is raking in cashNo fucking shit
>>114219400>best talents >leaving HoloENTo go die in a corner like an old sick cat.
>>114227273truth hurts I guessthe most exciting thing you have going for you now is two annoying women who pretend to be lesbians
>>114216023still no stream huh?
>>114155370Wildcard is the perfect name for the next indie bubble. because it's a wildcard - get it? eh? eh?
>>114155074>Killed indie vtubing instead It's really funny to see you talk about shit you clearly know nothing about
>>114227366The most exciting thing you have going for you now is watching Saba update her trademarks
>>114216023>said lazy girls do more than any holoENDude it's been half a year since Saba's last streamDoob fucks of for weeks at a timeAnd imagine being a cuck and watching Nimi
