>>114170892
Hololive English

most of holoen

HoloEN except Council

>>114170892
She really got lasting boosts from the world cup huh
Her VODs before that have like 600-800 views
Now she averages like 5k-7k vod views

>>114172355
Kek

>>114172431
I regularly see clips of her going viral on Xitter.

>>114170892
Enna and Millie when they applied to NijiEN

>>114172431
KEK

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>>114170892
2022-2023
>makes her name being NSO bipolar incest girl who does weekly cursed deep dives as the backbone of her content and becomes one of the standouts in the corpo
>does this to get 100k subs so she can get a 3D model from her corpo
2024-onward
>gets 3D model
>abandons her content
>is a great dancer and she gets to do shows all over and travel the world
>when she does stream, it is FFXIV

>>114173932
this is the opposite of selling out anon

>>114174010
nah she soldout her fanbase

>>114170892
Myth and Council

>>114173932
>>is a great dancer and she gets to do shows all over and travel the world
Nigga she's not traveling the world lmao. You had one con in commiefornia. You cucks need to stop hyping up your girls to the point of making them look bad.

>>114172431
Yeah but only subhuman apes watch the world cup and now that's the majority of her viewers. Sucks to be her.

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>>114174058
>Nigga she's not traveling the world lmao
meanwhile in reality
>has been in a dozen 3d concerts in the last 2 years
>concerts that have been in nyc to san jose to texas to san fran to the uk etc
>sponsor concerts for jp/kr groups
>traveled to japan 10 times in the last 2 years to record all of them
soldout her fanbase to become an idol the first chance she got

>>114170892
>streams asmr
>very rarely would do earlicking or especially affectionate asmr on a memba (maybe 1 or 2 times a year), always spur of the moment, usually when she was feeling clingy or needy
>goes viral, subcount booms, hires a manager
>removes her old membership asmrs to "move them to the new asmr channel"
>suddenly says that earlicking was something she felt she was pressured into doing
>deletes all her intimate asmr videos after promising that they would stay
All her fans are just yesmen in an echo chamber so not much will come from this but I just cant trust her anymore

>>114174227
don't wanna numberfag but she's obviously not getting more from doing this by any metric, which means she's likely doing it for the love of the game

>>114170892
imagine crashing out this hard because she stopped doing an asmr trigger you liked. hahahaha it's so fucking pathetic i have no words

>>114174299
I know you are just being retarded to be funny but I'll bite. it is a slippery slope and this is the most recent thing in a long line of incidents since she got popular. The asmr doesnt matter, it is the constant lying, breaking of trust and promises and trying to put the blame on viewers for something that she did voluntarily

>>114174281
were you her fan anon

>>114174288
>you can be a top 5 streamer in the company, but worry about keeping up with numbers every day and stream for a fanbase you dont like because they are pippa adjacent, doing content you dont like and being miserable
or
>you can be the #1 for your company in their 3d endeavors during a time when 3d events in the west has boomed, have built in reasons to never stream, filter after filter until you have reduced your fanbase to exactly who you want when you do stream and be the happiest you have ever been
that was her fork in the road. you gonna keep doing what you were doing which you hated even if you were successful at it, or sellout your fanbase and content to become what you always wanted: an idol slave? it is just about identifying what you want out of this career desu. some people want different things.

>>114174428
I get where you're coming from but she's just a silly sheep man. if you feel yourself turning into an anti then it's best to just walk away

>>114170892
You wouldn’t?

>>114174227
>upload .vrm and .mmd to dropbox so 3d concert chuuba can drag the performance into the scene
>travel
Is this a role-playing board now?

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>>114174501
I get it in theory, but usually "selling out" means you change for the sake of letting the money win.
trading a successful channel to become a dancing concert idol who plays XIV is not really letting the money win.

>>114174575
I would prioritize stable long term growth over burning through 4 years of good will just for the sake of a horde of retards that send ARS akasupas

>>114174544
I know, I wouldnt say I am becoming an anti just more distrustful. I've already taken a step back and I make sure to keep my (minor) venting /here/ the last thing I would want to do is hurt her by going schizo

I know shes just a sheepgirl, she hasn't got a malicious bone in her body but I just can't trust her or buy into her promises like I used to. Maybe down the line once she gets a new job and if things stabilise I'll come back

>>114174058
I want to agree BUT
>mentally retarded brown numberbrony offended by the existence of corpos that aren't holo
You are the cancer ruining this board and inshallah some day I will acquire a nuke and wipe out manila.

>stop watching her completely around the time of the hiatuses
>get called 'anti' for it
>now the same baachis who called me 'anti' 6 months ago are complaining because she's no longer letting them have access to her on discord all the time
Lol
I said it would happen, but they called me schizo.

The saddest words on /vt/- the schizo was right again.

>>114174445
I was, or maybe I still am, idk either way I definitely need some time away

I don't even like ASMR, but what kind of fucking weird toll does it take on its performers?

>>114174993
>the schizo was right again.
The schizo is never right.

>>114175029
nothing, there are big vtubers that have been doing asmr for years (Noel, Pillowdear, Nene Amano for examples) The problem with a lot of small chuubas is they go into asmr purely for numbers since it provides good replayablility and gfe asmr creates goslings. Very common for indies to stop doing asmr once they get big enough, which then can cause more brainworms when people leave once the asmr stops and suddenly your left with people expecting gfe

Its a combination of not enjoying doing it, stressing about numbers, creating gfe fans and then going cold turkey and not setting boundaries at the beginning

>>114175041
the schizo is sometimes right

Never trust a vtuber that has her own discord where she sits with the top paypigs, mods and fans

>>114175089
You're also implying a mental toll while talking around it.

>>114174612
I thought it was well known that phase uses a lot of choreographers as body doubles
I don't know how it applies to Lia specifically but they definitely use em

>>114174923
you should stop using the computer completely for a couple of weeks. i sincerely mean it, it'll change your perspective on things. you'll probably tell me to kill myself or something in response which is fine, everyone here has decided to be edgy and destroy their own lives for no apparent reason after all, but at least consider it

>>114173932
Grim

>>114174923
Trust can never be restored, its a pointless exercise. Just walk away and never look back.
>>114175029
Depends heavily on the girl and why she does it. Only a few do it because they enjoy it, its highly repetitive. They have to like asmr and enjoy the sounds they themselves make, like the attention it brings, plus have a bit of an exhibitionism fetish
For most its a numbers game, and it cultivates the stereotypical fat and sweaty otaku fans, which apparently is an issue because their fans must obviously be chads or at least never cross the line or else they get the ick

>>114175402
If I'm picking up what you're putting down, doing ASMR for them feels straight up like doing porn.

Why do girls hate earlicking so much anyways? It's always earlicking these girls stop doing or refuse to do in the first place.

>>114175305
Nah I'm not going to tear into you, its pretty rational, maybe touching some grass will give me some perspective

>>114175506
because their boyfriends tell them to stop doing it

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>>114173932
>abandons her content
She does the same deep dive streams she used to do
>>when she does stream, it is FFXIV
Where?

>>114175041
>be explicitly right
>"Y-YOU'RE NOT RIGHT I'M GONNA TELL REDDIT ON YOU"
Lol
Lmao
Newfaggot tourist.

>>114175467
See you say that, but the asmr vtubers who are actively doing "ZZZ microbikini uoh dicksucking and crying noises asmr" on patreon seem to like their, um, "artform" a lot better than girls who just phone it in doing "hehe let me hehe in your hehe".

Same with the "I'm doing yandere RP asmr about cutting your legs off, cutely, now don't struggle honey :)".

If you don't know what you're doing, why you're doing it or what you want to do with it it's not fun.

>>114175305
NO SHE'S MY E-WIFE I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF AHHHHHHHH

>>114174923
>I make sure to keep my (minor) venting /here/ the last thing I would want to do is hurt her by going schizo
the problem with that fanbase is that -minor criticism- is taken as literally 9/11 by them in their little discord. Discord users should be totally removed from 4chan, would fix the place up.

>>114175467
Wouldnt be wrong to say that, broadly speaking. Could be somewhat like compensated dating as well. That's at least for the gfe-oriented asmr.
You can get a chuckle if you find one that ignores the chat as much as possible, does her thing, flees at light speed and pretends it never happened.
There's a very small portion who do it because they enjoy the reactions of their fans, and obviously the attention it brings, but they often are menhera so you know what's gonna happen
When it comes to pure type of asmr (no gfe involved), it doesnt seem to involve any tax on them other than it being repetitive and their legs getting a bit numb from sitting for too long. Its rare to find them compared to the others since the money is on the gfe

>>114174227
She always wanted to be an idol

>>114175711
100% it’s funny how whenever she has anonymous suggestion forms it has tons of responses but when she brings it up suddenly there is not a single person who agrees with it and the channel is full of people saying “this isn’t true” her fans are all cowards who manipulate her with toxic positivity

>>114170892
All of HoloEN and Essie are great examples

>>114175506
Because when you get a strike for suggestive content YouTube doesn't care that you call your blowjob sounds "ear licking"

>>114173932
>I don't understand internet men

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>>114170892
>I don't want to do triggers that make me feel uncomfortable or that feels like it's just done to please people and collect a check, like where's the soul in that

>>114174281
>>>>hires a manager
do u rly beleb

>>114176010
To be entirely 100% fair it's because if you say anything to her at all that even mildly suggests she might want to brush up on her gaming skills she has a massive meltdown. This is probably the end result of spoiling a girl by telling her "actually you're not bad at this game just because you've died 70 times in 3 hours".

>>114176842
Oh and claiming she was autistic (no proof provided) when she's literally just a conslut. Always a classic.

>>114170892
qrd?

>>114182911
the main group of groomers in her discord are feeling threatened and going full anti on her because she dared to talk back to them

>>114174281
that manager? me

>>114175113
Senzawa used to do this, now look at her now

Isn't she a nurse, why would you trust a nurse

i bet kiara isnt returning her dms

>>114174281
Where are all her more lewd asmrs?

She used black magic to predict the world cup to go viral and the universe gives no free lunches so it will balance itself out through karma