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I need to massage and rub her little feetsies so badly
wringing Pillow's sweaty panties after her 15k steps into a small cup and drinking her crotch sweat
>>114350653Mmm raw Pillow sweat
When I see Piller,I wanna fill'er!
>>114350799LOL
thoughts on her latest cover?
I’m missing her a lot
>>114353301Get better aim piwwo
Pillows tight little hole
>>114354106But I had a 99% chance to hit...
>>114354218She's getting too cushionhunny
>>114354218>>114354639grabbing and squeezing pillow
>>114354639Oh god it looks like
>>114354639>cushionhunnymore for me to love
would Pillow have salmon colored pubes or white feathers
>>114356307>salmon colored pubesmy choice
>>114356326>>114356307Pillow's heavy garlic musk pubes
Pillow and Raki need to stop teasing and kiss already
She really cheered me up just now. I don't know how she does it.
Is she an Apex predator?
i cant listen in to the Spaceis Pillow saying anything important
>>114357169No they just played a guessing game for a bit and said goodnight.
>>114356466god her sweat must have the nicest garlic scent
I'm glad she's having a blast
https://x.com/yumemidreams/status/2091981307609788525Yeah right…
>ywn get to take advantage of a scared and alone Pillow left to fend for herself at an "industry mixer" after Raki and the others go off to "exchange business cards" with random 2view male chuubas
>>114358215This just made me realize that Pillow doesn't have a business card. Holy shit she's safe.
>>114358009huh.. probably nothing...
They Fucked
>>114358009>Pillow confirmed to have gone to a conAll that cope last thread and then this. Not even all that dunny just depressing.>>114358238>Pillow doesn't have a business card?>this makes her safe???
>>114358291We'll have to see if he namedrops her next stream. He absolutely can't resist doing that to anyone he has a passing interaction with.
>>114358009I don't know how I'll feel if she comes back and says this trip was a girls trip where they just ate a lot of food
Did saiken take down his post-offkai stream? I can't find it
>>114358436>looking for saiken's stream for any mention of PillowNever been more over unironically
This might be the final straw for me. I fucking hate liar and congoer holy shit.I’ll listen to what she has to say but I’m very disappointed.
>>114358526Pillow was with piwwos for the entirety of Offkai. There's literally nothing that she did that didn't involve us. Seriously if you guys knew just how out of her way she went to make that weekend unforgettable for us you would never doubt her again.
>>114358526Not hard to imagine why it's a concernhttps://x.com/yumemidreams/status/2091981307609788525
>>114358532Yeah. It especially hurts for someone like Pillow who is not only GFE but conscious of giving piwwos brainworms. Hiding it like that just makes it clear she knows it was a bad thing and did it anyways. I know Raki probably invited her, but she has to say no like fuck.>>114358574Literally apples and oranges situations. Cmon Druid I know you want to defend her but this is not the time.
>>114358621I'm aware, anon. That's why it's never been more over. Conveniently he's everywhere she was this weekend. Mostly commenting on that piwwo searching the stream either to find proof or lack thereof. Either way, trust has been severely broken.
Damn, that's rough. I guess you guys will be leaving after her next stream?
>>114358357>Not even all that dunny just depressing.You are such a loser
>>114358725Might not even tune in to the welcome back stream. Don't think I could stand to listen to her skirt around the truth.>>114358748>no rebuttalYeah it's absolutely over not even the cucks can find something to defend this. I guess I should thank this Yumemi chick.
>>114358532Bye retard>>114358623>know Raki probably invited her, but she has to say no like fuck.You are insane>>114358725No they will not
>>114358779What do I need to defend? Tell me specifically what she did wrong, the proof that she did it, and why it's wrong.
>>114358779You'll so be missed.And he called you a loser. You're just going take that then.
>>114358799They're obviously baiting you, come on.
>>114358810Okay, from now on I'll assume every GFEtard doom-post is bait. Makes my life easier.
>>114358786Don’t you have some nimi cuck arts to jerk off to? Go away
>>114358786Three replies and no actual points made, it's fucking horrendous right now for your side>>114358808Are you in elementary school kek?>>114358799You are the prime example of that "leftist discourse is pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible" meme but for cucks instead
>>114358844>seething at GFE in the GFE threadlmao you’re doing this every single day
>>114358877Everything you said applies to you. All three replies. It's hilarious how you managed that.
>>114358904You can also tell when he won't reply to certain posts how mad he gets kek and any reply is usually just poorly crafted insults>>114358933Just tepid "n-no u" shit from a fag who spends almost 24 hours on here
>>114358959Comes back with yet another projection. Simply amazing.
>>114358981>still no points madeI accept your concession
*appearrows*
>>114358992There is it!
>>114359021>still mispelling ityeah you have no excuse anymore you will be annihilated on sight>>114359023>reaction gif>with the typospiritually black kek i don't even have to do anything you just embarass yourself. I'm running laps around you while you impotently seethe
>>114359023This gif could be 300KB easily
>>114359021saiken's cocksleeves
It's melting down again ewww
https://x.com/yumemidreams/status/2091981307609788525reposting it because I know what this cuckfag tried to do :)
>>114359152Make sure to screencap it too!
I thought you guys said Raki was a good girl?
Why do GFEtards want to be cucked so badly? They're literally imagining cuck scenarios based on one picture of their oshi's signature next to someone else's. This is the only excuse they need to indulge their degenerate fantasies.
>>114359236Friends reflect the person unfortunately.
>>114359236I’ve personally never said that; I knew the kind of girl she was and the influence she could have on her
>>114359291>never said thatrevisionist history in real time. watch there be a sudden influx of "raki is a whore" posts to cope. a big shame
>>114358436>Did saiken take down his post-offkai stream? I can't find it>going out of your way to get cuckedThat's pretty sad anon
>>114359307It's not Pillow they like, it's the drama of being in a "relationship" but not trusting the other person and constantly looking for reasons to be upset with them. Imagine what a nightmare they'd be IRL.
>>114358009>2.5D Idolcan people like her and Phoebe fuck off from vtubing
can somebody please give me a link to SURGE after its gone?i remember someone linked a google drive or something a while ago but i lost the link
>>114358436Looks like itI guess inadvertently exposing several "no males" chuubas by bragging about how you and several other dudes hung out with them didn't go over wellGood thing the internet is foreverhttps://gofile.io/d/1rUBRrKx
Can't believe that whore betrayed us bros....the only way for me to forgive her is lovey dovey ASMR with countdown
>>114360248i wish i had a Luli business card it looks cute
Muhammad (PBUH) was right about women
I called that sperg whos always starting shit here a faggot, but honestly I may kneel. Was he right?
>>114360883Who? Right about what?
If anything this feels worse than even just her going to a con and meeting males by chance. They're literally doing extra-curricular activities with guys together (e.g. going to plays). Like they literally talk to guys in group chat and actively invite them to hang out. And then she refers to it as hanging out with 'girls'.
>>114361768There's no proof of her meeting any male, the fact that a random female vtuber has signatures of both doesn't mean they were together. And the reason she's not open about going to the con is that she doesn't want to be doxed, I'm sure she's going to be more open about it once she's back
I don't blame her, she's a human being and has a right to live her life, but the illusion is irrevocably shattered for me. It's been fun piwwos, I wish the best to those of you still able to enjoy it. In many ways I envy you and wish I could shut off that part of my brain too.
Dropping by here since i heard the newsSorry this happened to you guys, idk what your relationship is like exactly, but as someone who has been in a similar position (shondophrenic), i recommend you absolutely press this matter and don't let her wiggle out of itThe hardest choices to make are the uncomfortable ones, but it's better than doing nothing
>>114362113God, remembering the months of shondophrenics continuing to cover for her as the situation just continued to get worse and worse and imagining that maybe that's us now is just depressing. Why can't anything good ever last?
>>114362138Because man chose darkness over the light in the beginning, and now we're stuck with it! Don't expect light where there is no purification! Purify your own soul and then you'll see the light coming out of you for others to dwell inTrust me, when the shondo stuff went down i was in a dark place, unable to anything. If i could go back and change one thing, it would be myself. In order to save your own relationship, i recommend you start purifying yourselves. When it all went down for us, everyone was split and afraidIf they had listened to me maybe things would've been different, but maybe not
>>114362220What the fuck are you talking about you schizo
>>114362113>Dropping by here since i heard the newsNobody died you melodramatic faggot
Also do not make the same mistake as us, keep the people who aren't a part of the relationship to a minority. If you have to, kill them. Protect what you hold (pillow)dear to you.>>114362240You are the opposition
>>114362021He's imagining his "wife" getting railed by some doctor because that's his fetish
>>114362403He's Ino!
>>114362403I don't think anybody is actually imagining that. That's not the point at all. Still, for many of us, this was a huge breach of trust that can't be taken back. I don't hate her or wish badly for her, but I don't think I'll ever be able to trust her again the way I used to either. It just isn't the same now that we know. If you don't feel the same that's fine, but don't lash out at those of us who do feel this way, or try to minimize our feelings. We have perfectly valid reasons to feel this way.
It would be perfect if seeing you fags sperg out over this got Pillow to drop GFE and parasocialism
>>114362445Is there even any point to her continuing it after she's shattered the illusion anyway?
>>114362430You're a grown man and this behaviour is deranged and pathetic. You have no valid reasons to feel the way you do. Obviously if you keep posting melodramatic bullshit I'm going to keep making fun of you.
>>114362502Don't belittle us for caring or taking this seriously when she happily encouraged us to do so the entire time.
>>114362445If seeing a couple people act yandere over her hanging out with males is enough for her to drop GFE and parasocialism then it would be preferable for her to drop them because they weren't going to last long anyway in that case. So posting that isn't much of a 'gotcha'.
>>114362508I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that literally nothing happened
Don't try to empathize with these demons, they care little for what you're going through. For them, who don't care one bit, if they can laugh at you then that's enough for them. Like i said, they're a plague. Be prepared to kill them if you have to.Hopefully they repent without needing to so anything, but leave that to them. You just have to protect your community.
>>114362508She encourages piwwos to do lots of things that I find gay and embarrassing. That doesn't mean I won't make fun of them.Also she probably didn't expect you to get mad at her for failing to mention that a man was in her vicinity. I guess she's less mentally ill than her audience.
>>114362531She lied, and she clearly acted in a way that shows she knew her actions would upset her fans and rather than choosing to not do the thing, she chose instead to hide it. That shows a level of premeditation that demonstrates exactly how seriously she actually takes all of this, namely not very. It doesn't even matter how serious the actual action was, because she's shown us exactly how she'd act when the choice to do something much more serious happens. I just can't trust her anymore.
>>114362538 (me)We shondophrenics went through the same thing until we were completely replaced. Eventually, we were seen as a joke and a subject of ridicule among the rest of the community. Our word meant nothing any longer. Even our threads were abandoned by husbands and overtaken by these ghouls
>>114362527It wasn't a "gotcha" it was something that I think would be funny. And GFE in particular is clearly a problem for both the VTuber and audience so I'd see dropping it as a good thing always.
>>114362540Now you're being disingenuous. She knew this was something people would have feelings about and want to know, she's not that braindead. The fact she chose to hide it rather than admit to it immediately is extremely telling.
>>114362538>>114362563Grow up
>>114362540>she probably didn't expect you to get mad at her for failing to mention that a man was in her vicinityIn that case why did she keep referring to it as meeting up with other girls?
>>114362594Yeah, trying to pretend this is just her "forgetting" is sickeningly dishonest. What do you guys have to gain by covering for someone to this extent who will happily lie to your face?
I think this will be the last piece of advice i can give, but if you see something wrong don't be afraid to break containment to deal with it. Don't let the problems foster here, but bring them to light and resolve themBest case scenario she apologizes and sticks to the standards once again and everyone is happy again
>>114362554>>114362576Okay bye>>114362594Probably because that was the plan and she didn't know there would be other people there. I don't know. Why should I care?
>>114362567Nobody gives a fuck about a non-parasocial pillow dude. Not even you, given that this thread (which is clearly what you're *actually* a fan of) wouldn't exist.
>>114362610The normal, honest thing to do if that truly was the case would be to immediately open up about what happened and reassure everyone that it wasn't her intention to wind up in that situation, not to try to hide it. Hiding it implies guilt and complicity.
>>114362605>don't be afraid to break containment to deal with itThey are and they won't, which is a shame because I want to see what would happen>Best case scenario she apologizes and sticks to the standards once again and everyone is happy againExcept Pillow, but that works for you
>>114362589Blow up, you vile monster. Do you not see how you're doing the will of demons? If they make you act in such a evil manner in life, do you think you eill be rewarded by them in the life to come? No, the demons hate everyone witj no exceptions. You will simply be tortured by them for your evil deeds. Change your ways now!
>>114362554>She liedShe did not. I'm still not seeing any proof she interacted with either the manager or the doctor. She will tell everything when she's back and she doesn't have to worry about being doxed.>>114362563Shondo had red flags since the very beginning, you just chose to ignore them. Pillow has always been trustworthy and nothing changed.
>>114362634Oh you're doing a bit
>>114362636As far as I'm concerned, this is the beginning of the red flags people are choosing to ignore for Pillow.
>>114362636>Shondo had red flags since the very beginning, you just chose to ignore them. Pillow has always been trustworthy and nothing changed.Idk who you are, but shondo was a very solid person to put your trust in. To begin with, the relationship going to shit was mostly our fault for not speaking up and the fault of some influences in her life
>>114362624Why is it a situation that requires an immediate explanation and reassurance? What is she "guilty" of or "complicit" in?
>>114362670You're being willfully ignorant now. She herself chose to hide it which shows at least she thought it was something worth feeling guilty about.
>>114362647Think what you will, matters little to me, but don't skip over my words without taking them into consideration
You shondofags need to fuck off permanently for fuck sake and stop shitting up the thread with your bullshit
>>114362683She just didn't mention it. Maybe she didn't think it was important. I certainly don't. But why won't you answer my questions?
>>114362605 (me)Also give the posts here little importance, focus more on the situation with pillow and handle it instead of just talking about it
>>114362706>Maybe she didn't think it was importantLol, I'm not engaging with this any further, you clearly aren't in good faith here
>>114362695We see through you charades, you can't handle being exposed and so you scream
>>114362113>>114362138shondo doesnt have a bfand being in the same vicinity as a dude means nothingyou guys have a cuck fetish
>>114362716Ignoring my questions isn't a sign of good faith. I'm waiting for you to explain your position so I can respond. If you don't do that, I can't.
uh good mworning..
>>114362759Piwwo I'd go back to sleep the cucks and trolls are fighting eachother again lol
>>114362737you sound like you got bullied at school
Sometimes you don't need to act in good faith, you just gotta kill the bad guys
Wait for the return stream before schizoing out
>>114362784I just want one person to answer my questions.>Why is it a situation that requires an immediate explanation and reassurance? What is she "guilty" of or "complicit" in?Surely someone can do it.
pretty sure she'll start crying if anybody brings it up on stream
>>114362822That's what they want
>>114362634stop being cringe
>>114362808It's not piwwos schizoing out, it's trolls and cucks concern trolling.
>>114362894I'm sure there's some of that going on but some of these posts read as sincere. I guess to some extent as long as they're anonymous and contained here it doesn't matter, the spergouts are irrelevant.
im taking a nap i hope by the time the plane lands this place will be calmer
>>114362822That's for the better
>>114362925Like, yeah. I have no desire to actually hurt Pillow or upset her, but I have a right to vent too.
>>114362925Sure some of them are sincere but they've been looping this shit since she got to the hotel. So I'm going to assume it's trolls until otherwise.
>>114362966You should realise that you're being insane though
>>114362822why?
>>114362996she knows what she did, shes afraid we'll figure it out
>>114363007despicable
In a vacuum I don't think it's a big deal, but it feels like the first red flag just like how when Shondo went to California and omitted having dinner together with the male CEO of the company she was doing work for it was also the first red flag in her case.
>>114363007I don't even know what she did. All I've got is that she might have met one or two men and didn't immediately tell us about it, but there must be more to it than that, right?
>>114363028you think shondo is actually fucking the ceo of some company? is that your cuck fantasy?
>>114363154I said she omitted him being there, just like Pillow omitted males being there. Even without anything happening, it speaks to their willingness to lie to your face about these kinds of things.
>>114363212>it speaks to their willingness to lie to your face about these kinds of things.they're vtubers bro, that's their jobyou don't have a real relationship with them, it's a fantasy
>>114363212I don't consider omitting unimportant details "lying". I don't care that a man was there. Am I supposed to? Why?
>>114363028I blame Olivia for all of this
>>114363243Who?
>>114363238>Am I supposed to?Yes>Why?Because Pillow does. Otherwise she wouldn't have omitted it! She was the one that went out of her way to clarify that the other people she and Raki were meeting up with were girls!
>>114363279mental illness
>>114363279>Because Pillow does. Otherwise she wouldn't have omitted it!Circular reasoning.>She was the one that went out of her way to clarify that the other people she and Raki were meeting up with were girls!So that was the plan, but there were other people who she wasn't expecting to be there. She didn't immediately post "I'm having a great time with my girlfriends and this MAN who's also here" because why would she?
>>114363359do you even know if she was hanging out with dudesits just a signature on some card
>>114363279Here's what happened>Raki wants to go to a con where she's going to meet other vtubers but she's still going to be alone most of the time>Not wanting to be alone, she invites Pillow, who, wanting to be a good friend, accepts>At the con they do meet other vtubers, and, by word of mouth, they learn about the play>They go at the play and possibly interact with some other vtubers, but that doesn't mean they met with every single person who was there>One of the vtubers who was at the con was collecting signatures and managed to get both Pillow's and the doctor, almost certainly not at the same time, I doubt all those people who signed were lining up to give their signature to random 2view
>>114363391Well exactly, even the trivial stuff they're complaining about is mostly conjecture
>>114363437she was within 100 metres of a man, it's over
>>114363437>At the con they do meet other vtubers, and, by word of mouth, they learn about the playNah it was obviously on their itinerary, and the fact they were seated right next to the male manager indicates they all bought tickets together as a larger group. Probably organized through a discord server.
>>114363489All done by Raki, she's the one who invited her
>>114363489>>114363540And why should I care?
why does a random 2view know who raki and pillow are?
>wake up>people are making up timelines nowHoly shit this is embarassing. I wonder how twitter piwwos feel though since those are the biggest part of her community.>>114362808What would that do though? The whole accusation is "Pillow lied." Pillow's words don't really mean anything in that case. It's like if in a fraud case you rely on the word of the alleged fraudster.
So you’re all gonna confront her about this next stream right?
>>114363781If I have to in the first place, then that proves she is a liar.
>>114363781No, they're just going to keep looping this for the next few months
>they've gone back to the "you won't confront her" defenseYou know they're seething when that's all they have left
>>114363845Can you stop posting your cuck fantasies please we don't want to read them
She didn’t have to hide it, that’s the part that really bothers me. How am I supposed to trust her if she willingly hides details like thisI’m not stupid enough to think that they fucked, but she could have been honest with us. If she can lie about this, she can lie about everything
>>114361768She had girl hangout with her viewers too, coincidence????
>>114364009Okay bye
>>114362668The girl that was constantly talking to her paypigs secretly in dms and ten secret accounts in twitter is trustworthy? Lol, any girl that has more than 2 "secret" twitter accounts has huge redflags to begin with.
>>114364009not saying something isn't lying and you're retarded if you think she has literally zero male contact
>>114364009True. Antis are trying to pretend the point is we think she fucked saiken or some male at the meetups/con, but I just care about the honesty. She even hid going to a con like damn.
Honestly if she plans to physically go to cons from now on I think it's over regardless. There's a reason that kind of thing is a meme, and if I had brought up the idea a week ago people would have been incredulous of the idea of her doing it.
>>114364088"Antis" are the ones saying Pillow did nothing wrong, not the ones calling her a liar and untrustworthy over nothing. This makes sense.
>>114364103Enabling shitty behavior isn't a kindness
>>114364083If she has male contact that isn't like a cashier or security or doctor, then the trust is broken. This seems like a huge moving of the goalpost from "she's the safest" to "oh yeah she talks to men on her own accord but don't worry about it."
>>114364083>literally zero male contactGoalpost moving. People do expect zero physical contact with male vtuber sexpests. Apparently that's no longer the case.
>>114364109But it's not shitty behaviour
>>114364115You don't know if she had contact with this male sexpest thoughYou just know that that signed the same thing
I've been very consistent in saying that what's expected of GFE VTubers is fucking retarded and inhuman, so it's nice to know that Pillow doesn't hold herself to the same unreasonable standards as you freaks hold her to
>>114364094Just think of all the ones she's been to without getting caught because someone fucked her opsec
>>114364155GFE consumers are never gonna be happy because ultimately she's not actually your girlfriend
>>114364129But you literally just said it is ridicuolous to think she has zero male contact. So literally "it's not happening but if it is, it's a good thing.">>114364094Yeah I remember Pillow going to cons was literally seen as "anti cuck fantasies" and now that it happened it's somehow ok?
>>114364161Yeah I've tried telling them that about a hundred times
>>114364174"male contact" in this case is her being in proximity to male, you don't even know if they talked
>>114364174>Yeah I remember Pillow going to cons was literally seen as "anti cuck fantasies" and now that it happened it's somehow ok?I always said it would be okay and I'm glad she did it
>>114364155They shouldn't make unreasonable promises in exchange for clout and financial gain then. They have nobody to blame but themselves. Profiting off the grift until it becomes inconvenient and then flipping it around and saying their fans are the ones in the wrong is despicable and I have nothing but contempt for every vtuber who has gone that route.
>>114364155Look I'm not even that into GFE because I've had relationship while being a fan of her, but if she wants to clearly appeal to GFE then those standards are what she has to stick by. It's like idol shit. I say it's insanely restrictive but they chose to do it. She can always drop it if she wants.
>>114364185You're fucking insane if you think she stopped herself talking to a man because she was worried it'd get back to her fans Listen to yourself
>>114364196literally making up scenarios in your head lmao
>>114364185If they talked (more than a simple greeting but an actual conversation) would you be okay with it?
>>114364188>t. literal cuck
>>114364206I'm responding to the guy saying those standards are inhuman. She chose those standards when she chose this niche, she knew what she was signing up for. It's retarded to say she shouldn't be held accountable when she never had to become a GFE vtuber to begin with and very clearly jumped headfirst into the niche of her own volition.
>>114364204afaik they were just at the same con. did they go to an event together? I have no idea>>114364215I dunno I don't like that Saiken guy I think he's a fucking loser but simply talking to someone isn't an endorsement of them let alone does it mean they're having sex or whatever cuck fantasy you want to come up with
>>114364196What did Pillow promise? You people always say this but can never point to an instance when she's explicitly promised not to do the trivial thing you're mad about.
>>114364227Nobody thinks they're having sex, this is and has always been a retarded strawman used to draw attention away from genuinely shitty behavior.
>>114364155>I've been very consistentYeah we can tell faggot you've been cuckposting in this general for a year straight every chance you get
>>114364233what's the geniunely shitty behaviour?
>>114364202Refer to>>114364228
>>114364219My point is that she didn't "cuck" anyone. You seem to really want to believe that she cucked you.
>>114364227>it would be okay for Pillow to have a long conversation with Saiken when she is a GFE vtuberYeah you're done buddy holy shit
>>114364236Lying to her fans. Regardless of the hoops you try to jump through to justify it, it's beyond obvious she knew at least some fans would disapprove of her actions and chose to conceal them intentionally to avoid that. This shows premeditation and intent to deceive.
It’s funny how the cuckfag is pretending not to understand lolIs he a lefty or something
>>114364235I'm not the one imagining that my "wife" is cucking me
>>114364255thats not what i said>>114364258all vtubers lie by omission
>>114364262That's his strategy that he think is good. Just derail a conversation and when people don't care, claim you won. You have to bring an independently fact checked video of her saying exactly what he wants, and if you do, he'll probably say it is AI kek.
>>114364262I think cucks tend to be, so the guy wishing her to go to offpako orgies at cons is definitely one.
>>114364258She doesn't need to tell the world everything that goes on in her life because it might upset some schizos. It's not lying to keep these things to herself. Oh, let me guess, "if she's done nothing wrong she's got nothing to hide"?
>>114364288I'm not watching those vtubers either, for a reason. But when she went out of her way to try to make herself appear different, and bent over backwards to seem sincere and open, only to blow it all apart and reveal it for the brazen lie it was all along, it hits a lot worse.
>>114364319>I'm not watching those vtubers eitherI said ALL vtubers
>>114364314How convenient for her that she shared everything else except this one thing. What an odd coincidence, that. Surely she had no idea and just did that by accident.
>>114364297Just a timestamp would do
>Saiken posts under one of Pillow's tweets>Pillow blocks him to keep her gachikoi comfortableMeanwhile she was literally planning to fly to New York to meet up with him and his clique the entire time
>>114364288So you're calling her a liar? And so the antis mask drops alongside his cuck fetish
>>114364319Erm but you don't have 3 witness testimonies and a DNA sample proving this so you can't be listened to.
>>114364333More bad faith strawman arguments because you can't engage with the genuine points people are making here about her behavior.
>>114364329You're right, she shared every detail of everything she did on that trip. That's the only thing she didn't mention. Literally everything else was covered.
>>114364336DependsI don't think simply not saying something is a lie like some schizos do
>>114364350>That's the only thing she didn't mentionWhat is the thing exactly? You don't know if she met this guy, they just signed the same card
>>114364351Intent matters. If you choose not to say something in order to create a false impression you are guilty of deception.
>>114364339You get really upset when you're asked to back up the things you say
>>114364285>WAHHHHHHHHHHHH I HOPE PILLOW GETS A BOYFRIEND SOON SHE'D BE SO MUCH HAPPIER AND GFE AND PARASOCIALISM IS BAD WAHHHHHHHHHHHHt. You, in every other thread for the past year
>>114364351>lies by omission don't exist now
>>114364365Yeah exactlyIf she didn't met him she's not really lying about anything is she
>>114364350Weird huh? Almost like she's a complete fraud and knows how to play the game
>>114364367Are you sure? Can you give me 5 posts and a cortisol sample to back this up? You seem like an anti.
>>114364364I was being sarcastic. Ask the guy I replied to.
>>114364371He literally said it would be fine for her to have male contact in this very thread kek
Pillow didn't share how many times she peed during this trip, she's clearly hiding something
>>114364371I don't want it to happen soon, I need more time. But if it doesn't work out between us I hope she finds someone.
Funny how she hasn't shared her flight itinerary nor her seat number. I wonder what she's hiding.
>>114364384I do find it funny that for months these same people were like "Pillow is the smartest vtuber she knows how to stay out of drama and appeal to her fans and keep piwwos happy" and then it's suddenly impossible for her to hide anything.
Suddenly her being depressed and cancelling ASMR in the two weeks leading up to this makes more sense. She knew we would be disappointed about this.
>vagueposting strawmenTotal meltdown
>>114364415I trust her so why should that bother me?
>>114364453Goalpost status? Moved
>>114364430Women just can't help themselves
>>114364469I never said she didn't have "male contact", I couldn't possibly know that. I know it's confusing but "Anonymous" can be lots of different people.
>>114364447>get depressed about the inevitable consequences of you doing the thing rather than just choosing not to do the thinggrim
The crux of the issue here is that some of you are the type of guy to blow up at his girlfriend for talking to some guy. Hard to imagine that's not how you ended up here, not in a relationship and watching VTubers to fill the hole.
>>114364498I also thought it was weird that she would cancel ASMR due to being sad. If anything, ASMR is something she goes out of her way to do when she's sad because it cheers her up! But it makes a lot more sense with the context of her sadness stemming from guilt and self-doubt over the trip
https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJakQmPg3
>>114364523This is more analogous to blowing up on your girlfriend for finding out she was going out of her way to hide the fact she was talking to some guy from you
>>114364523If it was talking, all this retardation would be more understandable, but the alleged crime is being on the vicinity of a male.
>>114364523I think it's different for GFE vtubers because they know she's not ACTUALLY their girlfriend so they have to go to unreasonable lengths to avoid male contact to pander to these people
>>114364551>she was going out of her way to hide the fact she was talking to some guy from youis she doing that
>>114364498It’s a woman moment unironically
>>114364551It's not "going out of her way" to not immediately tell you something that isn't important. And you've made up the "talking to some guy" part. Is that part of your fantasy?
>>114364563Well she just did
>>114364587Have you seen the thread? Where on Earth do you get off saying it's not important?
>>114362822Good. She did something bad and should feel bad
>>114364591>>114364587
>>114364591Proof?
>>114364598This, if anything her crying about it would just cement that she knew exactly what she was doing and knows enough to feel guilty about it.
>>114364591is not bringing it up hiding it?
>>114364592It's not important to me and it shouldn't be important to anyone. If she was my actual IRL girlfriend and I found out after the fact that a man had been among her group on a trip, I would not give a shit, because I would trust her and not expect her to mention something like that because it's irrelevant.
>>114364642Well it clearly is to a lot of people, you're the minority here. You don't get to minimize it just because you don't personally care.
>>114364642Uh yeah your girlfriend doesn't respect you and you're getting cucked in that scenario
>>114364670I wouldn't date a woman who I don't trust to be in the same room as a man without fucking him
>>114364650Yeah I do I'm doing it right now
>114364614>>114364381>>114364262
>>114364057It's a bit more com0licated than that, but also dms weren't secret, they were abused though and she never responded (even banned a regular over it)
>>114364732Ah yes, tuffnar. He was such a freak she had to publicly execute him.He watches pillow now, btw
>>114364642>If she was my actual IRL girlfriend and I found out after the fact that a man had been among her group on a trip, I would not give a shitIf your girlfriend told you she was going on a "girls trip" and you wouldn't be mad after finding out the "girls trip" actually included men then you're a cuck.
I urge you guys to report trolls and antis>>114364757I meant fartrune (got drunk and went into her patreon dms), tuffnarr wasn't around for the dm eraAnyway, she closed her patreon after that
>>114364539Also makes her constantly calling it a girl's strip make more sense. Desperately trying to convince herself it's okay.
>>114364780I don't think you know what you're talking about, he harassed her every way possibleYou definitely wouldn't run damage control for him if you did
>>114364813I think you might be a little slow, and there's nothing wrong with that, but the fact is i did not mean him in my initial post
>>114364832Hi tuffnar!
>>114364765If she went specifically to meet those guys it would be suspicious but that's clearly not what Pillow did
>>114364874The goalposts have reached low earth orbit
>>114364894You don't have a response that's okayEnjoy fantasising about your "wife" fucking every guy in her field of view
>>114364262He's Ino, he does this often to manipulate his friends into doing things for him.
>>114364868You're chasing ghosts bro
Not looking good for Pillow...
>>114365041Pillow is DONE.
>>114365041Wow surely there’s gonna be a lot of discontent in the chat during her return stream
>>114365041grim
I still don't understand how this counts as proof of her somehow talking to guys
could someone briefly explain all that shondopsychosis thing? what happened?
>>114365603There isn't any, it's just part of their cuck fantasies to imagine that they got talking and it led to other things
I have yet to see any proof that Pillow did something wrong. Too many leaps of logic and assuming the worst of her. This is the girl who couldn't even find the courage to speak up about her order being wrong, I have no reason to believe she was hanging out with and talking to these men. Anyone pushing that narrative are acting in bad faith as far as I'm concerned.
>>114365717The fact she hasn't made a statement yet is pretty damning.
>>114365717>assuming the worstthat's what cucks do best
As someone who avoids women as much as possible, it's unfortunately very easy to get in contact with the opposite sex in certain situationsI image cons are such one situation
>>114365717It's literally just that she was in the vicinity of men and didn't immediately tell us That's it. She might even mention it offhand when she talks about her trip, but they didn't wait for that. It's the fact that they found out from other people first that's enough for them to call their "wife" a liar and say she can't be trusted. These aren't rational people.
>>114365603It's a discord cabal of cucks led by Ino to keep the thread open to being cucked.
>>114365717She hid going to a con. Everything else is speculation, but deserved speculation imo.
>>114365804I can think of a few good reasons for Pillow not to tell the whole world that she'll be at a con. Oh, but cucks can't masturbate to the idea of Pillow simply protecting herself. They have to imagine she had a sinister reason not to mention it, like wanting to hook up with male VTubers.
>>114365804>She hid going to a con.You're assuming she would've kept it hidden forever, there are good reasons to hide it while she's there
If this happened with any other GFE vtuber, piwwos ITT wouldn't hesistate to call their fanbases cucks (rightfully so on the 4chan vtuber board). Ultimately, this is just people defending their own. Neither side will get anywhere because both have different ways of viewing life. One side will assume the worst and the other side will not believe anything short of impossible to obtain evidence or Pillow's own words (which obviously she would never admit to). So this discussion is really pointless.
>>114365804Why would a vtuber say they're going to a conIt's basically saying "come rape me guys"
>>114365804She's going to tell us all about the trip when she gets back, she told us that. Avoiding live tweeting where you are and what you're doing is the smart thing to do. There was a piwwo talking about being at that con so why would she announce it and take that risk of this person looking for her?
>>114365845You're the one adding the male vtuber thing. She hid going to a con and that is undeniable.>>114365848Denying it until another e-celeb exposes it is the key part here too. She still hasn't said anything remember?
>>114365850the worst she did was hang out with a guy in a group setting which really isn't all that bad at all unless you have a cuck fetish
>>114365893Point just flew right over your head
>>114365856>>114365869She still hasn't admitted to going to the con on twitter. I understand the security concerns but cmon.
>>114365850>Actually I'm above the discussion and everyone's wrong except me
>>114365856>It's basically saying "come rape me guys"Yeah that's what I want her to say
>>114365904your point is wrong, I don't think there's reason to assume the worst but I'm not gonna make excuses
>>114365882>She hid going to a con and that is undeniable.And I implied why she might do that, which I'm sure you can figure out. I mentioned male VTubers because my understanding is that's why schizos hate the idea of her going to a con.
Going to a con as a gfe chubba is bad enough, you shouldn't be okay with it imo. However, I don't know your dynamics, I'm a thread tourist
>>114365893>the worst she did was hang out with a guyThis is literally among the worst things a GFE vtuber can do. Are you retarded or just pretending not to understand?
>>114365927So what? The plan was always to go into detail about what she did on her trip in her return stream.
>>114365976>Going to a con as a gfe chubba is bad enough, you shouldn't be okay with it imo.Why?>>114365983>This is literally among the worst things a GFE vtuber can do.Why?
>>114365983no the worst thing a GFE vtuber can do is have a boyfriendhanging out with a guy in a group setting is nothing
>>114365994She mentioned she went to the play. Reasonable to expect the same for the con.
>>114365994They're looking for reasons to be upset they're like BPD women
>>114366005>Please explain basic vtuber culture to me.No, I won't. Lurk for a trillion years
>>114366027She mentioned it after the play was done and that was a one time thing, there's probably a lot more to say about the con and she will tell us about it
>>114366034You won't because you know it'll sound ridiculous
>>114365936Yes. What has actually been gained from this discussion? Has anyone changed their minds either way? Nobody has even conceded one point. There is literally nothing to this conversation. Whatever you believed at the start you will believe now.
>>114366056>guy who doesn't enjoy vtubing tries to claim he is superior on the vtuber boardwhat mental illness causes this?
>>114366069you arent as smart as you think you are
>>114366069Telling the truth is good for its own sake. Also calling retarded manchildren cucks is fun.
>>114366096I didn't claim to be smart, just smarter than you. No actual refuation btw.
>>114366091>what mental illness causes this?Left wing ideology. They're only allowed to enjoy things ironically
>>114366091Can you try to explain? Are you even able to? Or do you not even know at this point?
>>114365041The raped
>>114366109You're wrong, there's your refutation
Isn't the fact that not a single male chuuba has mentioned pillowdear even in passing not worth anything here? it's not like they avoided mentioning stuff like meeting GFE chuubas in the past. Feels weird to ignore that
>>114366104There is no truth in this situation. That's why it's been back and forth the entire thread. Both sides are making headcanons based on like 3 tweets.
>>114364333https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1968303378771177638/hidden
>seething at GFE in the GFE threadWhy are you even here retard, pillow isn’t for you. Do everyone a favour and killing yourself
>>114366018lmao cuck
>>114366152are you muslim
>>114366149Posting this has never accomplished anything
>>114366149No no piwwo YOU'RE the cuck because you don't want Pillow to be around a known sexpest. You must secretly want her to fuck random guys on the street or something.
>>114366130>opponents just give upI might genuinely be the smartest piwwo of all time
>>114366185Nobody said they want her to be around this guy
what does saiken have to do with any of this...? I thought it was about a manager, what lmao
Imagine how badly you must want to be a cuck to do the mental gymnastics required to believe that Pillow has or will cuck you based on what we actually know
>>114366201His signature is next to hers on some random signature board
>>114366202We just don't want her to be around men. The ones adding these weird cuck fantasies are your ilk.
>>114366197You're wrong that people change their minds
>>114366005Gfe oddly enough implied exclusivityHowever, with the nuance that the vtuber avoids all male contact and only interacts with fellow female vtubers or her own community. As such, male collabs and going to cons (which are famous for being vtuber orgy hosts) is cucking your fanbase. On the other hand, the viewers are expected to only watch or be a loyal fan to the gfe chubba (if you were caught watching someone else while the gfe chubba oshi was live you'd be considered a cheater) while not getting into irl relationships and staying away from women in generalHope this helps
>>114366149Take it from me: kill them yourself
>>1>>114366199In the cuck's mind, "I don't care that Pillow signed the same thing as some guy" becomes "I want Pillow to be around known sexpests"
Remember, telling the piwwows she supposedly loves what she's doing is scary Meeting up with a sexpest irl and doing god knows what is fine though The illusion has shattered
Raki went to Skyline Serenade to clout chase and made Pillow tag along. They successfully got to join the group with Keeki and Densetsu and hung out all day, end of story.
>she was never around men>ok she was around men but it wasn't that bad>ok it might have been that bad but it doesnt affect you>ok it is important but it's actually a GOOD thing
>>114366215It's literally a whole column over lmao
>>114366217If you trusted your "wife" and didn't clearly imagine her cheating on you with the guys around her you wouldn't have a problem with it
>>114366282Proof next thread
>>114366296>you're against gfe if you think this is bad>do I like gfe? no wayLiterally the kinda shit anti-Christians say
Would you forgive her if she apologized?>114366296This is exactly the kind of narrative that showed up in the /shon/ threads btw, don't give these guys the time of day and kill them
>>114366312Was Ashton and Beri not mentioning that they hung out together not enough proof?
my lesbian oshi loves men?? guys you shouldn't let her be around males
>>114366336No, that's conjecture, not proof.
>>114366292>whole column>checks card>3 inches awayI know that's a long distance for you buddy but cmon
>>114366324You'll do nothing
>>114366350There was something like this with Korone (Pillow's kamioshi btw) where it was fine to hang out with an old comedian but not the voice of Sonic alone. Basically, different men mean different things and Pillow knows that.
>>114366336They didn't say they hung out together
>>114366358look at how pillow and raki signed it and then look at the signatures to the left and how they sign vertically, unless you think pillow and raki didnt sign together
>>114366354You'll hear it in the recap streams, they'll be excited to brag about hanging out with them.
Ok but we should all at least agree to drop the card thing. It's just blatant cuckposting. She signed a card someone else signed, which means nothing
>>114366229>Gfe oddly enough implied exclusivityHowever, with the nuance that the vtuber avoids all male contact and only interacts with fellow female vtubers or her own community. As such, male collabs and going to cons (which are famous for being vtuber orgy hosts) is cucking your fanbase.I disagree and think this is retarded>On the other hand, the viewers are expected to only watch or be a loyal fan to the gfe chubba (if you were caught watching someone else while the gfe chubba oshi was live you'd be considered a cheater) while not getting into irl relationships and staying away from women in generalPillow doesn't hold you to these standards
>>114366375She's not my oshi, me coming here to give you advice and warn you is me doing something
>>114366425They'll do nothing
>>114366406>I disagreeDoesn't matter kek those are the standards both she and piwwos agreed to by her starting GFE
>>114366406>Pillow doesn't hold you to these standardsI don't agree with the cuckposters at all but just for the sake of it I have to say that she's explicitly said she does multiple times, for the piwwos who actually are in love with her
>>114366398all of this is blatant cuckposting
>>114366444No she didn't. I just told you she doesn't even hold you to those standards. Those are things you've just asserted.
>>114366398I just got cucked and you are diminishing it and siding with the whore
>>114366458No. Her watching a play with a group that included some male "manager" sexpest is ACTUALLY bad.
>>114366454It's roleplay, she knows the deal. She won't treat you differently if you don't stick to it 100%.
>>114366406>Pillow doesn't hold you to these standardsOf course she does. She's my girlfriend
>Pillow: I consent to GFE>Piwwos: I consent to GFE>random anon: I DON'T Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
>>114366492It's definitely not roleplay lol, she's literally spoke against claim that it is
>>114366518There's real affection but she's not going to "break up" with you if you talk to a woman, come on
>>114366406>>114366425But also screw you. You will one day answer for the words you speak. If you don't repent you will end up being tortured by demons for the rest of time while being burned by the flames of hell in a putrid maggot ridden liquidI've seen you around in /shon/ spewing the same bullshit from the beginning, and we've answered the same as the guys here. All you do is poison everyone's minds. Unfortunately for you, these guys aren't as schizophrenic as us. I hope you'll stop going this path, but just know that your posts will continue to poison people even if you stop making them.
>>114366546She definitely doesn't enjoy the premise though and I thought that was obvious
>>114366552Okay
>>114366552What are you even talking about you delusional faggot Take some meds
>>114366565I think she sleeps just fine
I trust pillow completely even with attending a con in person.However I am interested to see how she responds to being asked if she interacted with any male vtubers, if for nothing else than to hear her frank thoughts on the matter. I don’t see how she could broach the subject without getting into uncomfy waters.
>>114366592Yeah, with sexpests
I hope all of this boils over where Pillow can see it and she has to choose between grovelling to her mentally ill cuck-fantasising fans or stepping back from GFE for everyone's good, and that she chooses the latter
>>114366601Mods would delete the comment lol it's why that anon keeps insisting you say something because he knows how locked down chat is.
>>114366592What the fuck are you talking about
>>114366601i wouldn't expect the answer to be a lot more than no
>>114366646Try Twitter pussy, mods can't touch you
>>114366663You'll just get ignored. The only direct communication is Youtube chat.
Bet her mods met her at the con and she thanked them extra specially at the con
>>114366652It's a common expression meaning she's not troubled by it
>>114366685Shes literally had nightmares about piwwos cheating and said as much
>>114366680Perfect, you've got all the excuses you need to not even try
It's funny that the same cuckanon that keeps telling you she isn't your real girlfriend is the one that brings up how real life relationship should work and that anons here aren't treating her like a real life relationship, he should make up his mind whether this relationship should be real or not. Not integrity at all.
>>114366701And yet she still doesn't hold you to the ridiculous standards to which you hold her
I still don't get what supposed evidence there is that she even spoke to a guy
>>114366714My point is that you shouldn't even hold a real girlfriend to these standards let alone a pretend one
>>114366705Your whole tirade for the last 24 hours has been excuses what are you on
>>114366765>you shouldn't even hold a real girlfriend to these standardsCuck
>>114366736I'm not the schizo all I mean to say is that she clearly cares about piwwos cheating
>>114366764They're just gonna keep ignoring you because there is none My point is that I don't care either way though
>>114366764>we have a problem with X and X could potentially lead to Y>i still don't see any evidence of Y so there is no problemStrawman or something
>>114366794You dont care if she did talk to men?
>>114366764there are none, which is why this discussion is blatant cuckposting from antis
>>114366793Sorry, not "you" then, them
>>114366797But she literally said yesterday that we doesn't want to do this often so why would anybody act like this is some kind of reason to believe there's some change in behavior
>>114366764It’s the signature, brah. PillowDear has never interacted with him online and has even hidden him, and even Raki has ignored his before. But that signature? Damning evidence that they both want want his cock and that’s the only reason they went out
Often isn't never
>>114366841So it's fine to do something bad if it isn't often?
>>114366797And just to be clear, X is "not immediately telling us she was near a man"? That's the problem? >>114366817No. Why should I? I know nothing happened.
>>114366856This
>>114366856Unironically this
>>114366863The problem is being in such a situation in the first place as a GFE vtuber. But you know this.
>>114366861See now this is a strawman, and again remember that the only reason she went anywhere is because her friend invited her, watch streams
>>114366856all of these girls subscribe to a "brand" that has nothing to do with who they are at consthey are in private servers with them, group chats with them, make plans to see themjust keep pillow and this congoer person separate.
>>114366797a woman being alive can potentially lead to her talking to a man
>114366955>yet another cuckposting anglewew
>>114366938So it's fine if her friend says to?
>>114366960Pillow is dead
>>114366975To go on a vacation...? I don't understand what point you're trying to make, because that's the "X" here
>>114366903I don't consider it a problem. I wouldn't even consider it a problem with a real girlfriend who I trusted.
>>114366856lmao
Good morning, /piwwo/!That's a lot of posts, but thank god for AI.Hope you all had fun and have another great thread.
Funny that it'll just be business as usual for Pillow when she gets back, and cucks will continue seething until either picking a new girl to project all their fantasies onto or quietly crawling back to Pillow, waiting for the next thing to throw a tantrum over
>>114367079Why is AI smarter than the average person in this thread
>>114367079>Is anything significant actually happening?>No.Does it ever
>>114367130No and that's the first rule
>>114367079Israelgpt is biased
>>114367156Ask claude then
>>114367079>no prompt Wonder how much the cuck had to iterate this to stop it telling him he's a cuck
I'm going to ask my dad if I should break up with Pillow over this and report back.
I guess it’s bedtime in Jakarta
>>114367079hit "yes"
>>114367484Yeah the faggots wanting her to get fucked at cons and encouraging it definitely came from there
The grudgeposting during the I'm home stream will be incredible
>>114367551This didn't happen
piwwos been watching too much Candace Owens
I'm trust pillow that she didn't interact with him, but I have to admit I have few brainworms because of the situation. I just hope she deep down knows that piwwo are as much as overprotective yandere as she is to us.
>>114368234I think you should all grow up and ultimately find something else to do with your time so you don't end up dying alone as disappointments to the people who care about you
>>114368372The calling is coming from inside the black kettle
>>114368372Shut up notta
>>114368400>>114368402Clearly this is never going to make you happy, so why are you still wasting your time?
>>114368434Pillow does make me happy.
>>114368434>why are you still wasting your timeYou literally spent the entire day and yesterday as well arguing here
>>114368457Sorry I assumed you were one of the cuck-posters who hates her
>>114368234She went to a concertA con where it's 95 percent menThere is not a single fucking chance she didn't interact with a man
>>114368525But why would we be concerned?
>>114368525This is why GFE vtubers cant go outside, they might see a m*le, and if they see one they WILL talk to them and have sex with them
>>114368585You joke but this is literally what they think
>>114368372>you should all grow upSaid the thread dwellerIt’s embarrassing actually
>>114368585So she's had sex like every woman her age then Likely went to a con orgy
>>114368646all me btw
>>114368619I'm pretty sure it's literally like 3 dudes and 2 of them are self-admitted tourists I said before I'm literally a unicorn, it's just really funny to think about getting mad about something that you could only conclude if you made the absolute worst assumptions possible off of like...3 vague tweets
>>114368646so true and all the men at the orgy were me btw
>>114368674So you think she didn't interest with a single man while at a convention?
>>114368694You're so right, I think she had sex with every male at the con, all of which were meI love making weird baseless assumptions
>>114368694didn't interest
>>114368732So you think she didn't, then? It's not baseless when every normal human interacts with both genders
>>114368856>my cuckposts arent baseless its normal for girls to have sex bro fr frAll me btw
>>114368372you don't sound like a piwwo
>>114368525it's different from hanging out with a guy in personal company don't be dense
>>114368914Okay
Saiken won lmao
>>114368585>>114368619hilarious strawman
>>114368935She was within 100ft of a man and didn't immediately tweet about it to reassure us that she wasn't going to fuck him. And you're defending this?
>>114368940Mad that your cuck larp got debunked?
>>114368954you're attempts at caricature of unicorn are falling face flat cuckling
>>114368951The cucks themselves said the problem was her "lying by omission" making her untrustworthy. What do you/they not trust her to do (or not do) now that you think she's a liar? What you/they are implying is obvious.
>>114369035To play devils advocate, a manager and a male vtuber are different from a random guy from the street. That’s because everyone knows males who insert themselves into this scene are often sexpests.
>>114368885You're keen to keep fighting a strawman you bizarre cuck
>>114369054>>114369054>>114369054
>>114368986That's what the cucks are complaining about. She sat in the same theatre as a man and signed the same card as a man, and didn't announce it before people found out from other people's posts, which makes her a "liar". Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>114369088that's not it don't be a faggotit was not about a guy sitting in the theater it's about implication of him hanging with their group more deeply
>>114368986Wait this cuck is actually mad at her talking to a man? LMAO
>>114368585This is literally how i feel
