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Their stream didn't work because I was sleeping. They love me the most and don't want me to miss streams.Also not any of the faggots you manpost, that's why they hate you faggots and love me.
>>114422305Kuro-chan.........
>>114422340You got me
I've been really disappointed with them lately. It just really seems like they don't give a fuck anymore about anything but homework and events. It's like some higher up told them if they want a sololive, they have to ignore everything except events and merch, and FUWAMOCO being FUWAMOCO they just blindly believed it. And you know what, maybe that exec is right, because the sololive will probably be in Tokyo and there's enough casual JP fans who are a stone's throw away that they can easily check out any Hololive event for basically the cost of the ticket.
>>114421391smile status: NOT PROTECTEDfellow ruffians how could they do this
>>114422355>the sololive will probably be in TokyoWhere else could it be, no way are they having one in the US.
>>114422543>fellow ruffians how could they do thisI might be disappointed in them but nobody types like this in good faith.
Not so long ago, I said I wanted to switch to being a full-time Ruffian.After yesterday's collab, I'm not really feeling the same anymore. If the JP collab goes flawlessly, that will sting a bit.
>>114422581It's actually never been easier to be a full time Ruffian though. Because there isn't much to keep up with.
>>114422581They don't create enough content anymore to justify anyone becoming a full-time ruffian.
>>114422355Thinking back to that member stream in 2021 where they cried saying what they want to do will probably make some people unhappy and nobody here took it seriously at the time. They're not naive, they're doing what they want.
>>114422581Which do you think deserves more attention with tech issues present>advent collab playing more simulator/friend slop>one off coaching session for a tournament
>>114422849>Thinking back to that member stream in 2021 where they cried saying what they want to do will probably make some people unhappy and nobody here took it seriously at the time. Now you're just shitposting. Battleplan stream was taken hugely seriously. Predictably everyone who complained was a long time member, meanwhile the majority of people saying shit like WE SUPPORT YOU FOREVER NO MATTER WHAT FUWAMOCO are long gone.
>>114423101Taken seriously as in realized they might go in a direction they don't like. Nobody here believed it, most of them mistakenly thought they were talking about moving to Japan when they announced it and not the fact they always intended on focusing more on performances than streaming. The people who complained were just retarded JP schizos
>>114423223I don't mind they do more performances, but they could've at least dropped one of their collabs to instead do a membership chat or something. It would've helped a lot.
>>114423223>Nobody here believed it, most of them mistakenly thought they were talking about moving to Japan when they announced itWhat? No. They were talking about the way things were going to proceed in the future, the stream was in April, they had already moved to Japan by then.
FWMC have failed us
Are you enjoying the SEA hours, Ruffians?
Only one hour till everything is magically fixed in time for a Japanese collab stream at Japanese primetime!
>114423704>114423726You've been seething for hours while not getting any sleep kek
>>114423751I woke up with 8 hours of sleep 4 hours ago, nice projection.
>>114423758>It wakes up just to shitpost in /baubau/You need a hobby.
>>114423764I guess shitposting in /baubau/ is his hobby.
>>114423764Pointing out SEA hours is shitposting?
>>114423223JP schizos were right in a sense though. It wasn't the move or golden week that mattered, they kept up prerty well with their consistancy past the week of getting in trouble. The thing that fucked up their consistancy was getting a huge influx of JP casuals interested in them with HoloGTA. They had a huge surge or JP chatter and that reflected in the shift in chat as JP chatter got more prominent and solidified when it came to their 2025 b-day where they saw a huge increase in sales from JP casual fans. It gave them the go-ahead to not care about fans they built from that consistancy and streaming during their first year and a few months.
>>114423596Thats why most people here thought it was about JP streams. But everyone complaining should go back to that and listen to 1:53:00 onward because they knew this would happen>But we know that sometimes we might do something that you don't agree with and that's normal. Sometimes we might disappoint you. One thing that might disappoint you might make other people happyThat was never about JP streams it was about them focusing more on performances and knowing some Ruffians would inevitably schizo out because of it
"Casual" Ruffian here. FWMC are not my true kamioshi because my real kamioshis graduated. But I still love FWMC the most in Holo right now.Even though I'm EOP, I actually prefer their JP streams and live performances the most and don't really care much about their gaming streams and Advent collab streams. I also really like their solo zatsu streams. Am I a fake Ruffian?
>>114423822Even if you're more casual I still prefer you over our manposting schizos
>>114423822>I'm actually a fan of HoloJP, this is great for me because they're doing more with HoloJPYeah, I get it.
>>114423822>Am I a fake Ruffian?If you like FWMC to any capacity then you are a real ruffian.
>>114423949I like when they play games like SotN. It's about as rare as an EN talent having some kind of 3d event participation.
>>114423805Sometimes not all the fucking times. Not 200 hours less streams than 2 years ago. Not 5 JP streams in a row and the one EN stream canceled. It's so much worse than anyone could have imagined, if you went to 2024 or even 2025 and told people what 2026 FUWAMOCO was like now, they'd assume you were making shit up to be an Anti.>Cancel valentines? They'd never do that>Go entire billing cycles without members streams multiple times? They'd never do that>Promise monthly ASMR and wallpapers and then drop it after 3 months? They'd never do that>Bring back FWMC Morning twice and then drop it again without saying a word, despite the fact that before those 2 times they had already dropped it for 6 months before that? They'd never do that. >Drop schedules entirely without saying anything? They'd never do that.>Spam JP collabs at JP times when it's not even Golden Week? They'd never do that.
Mococo's movements in 3D are always so cute
>>114424052Nobody joins membership for members streams that's a meme. You do it for emotes. Plenty of Holos barely do them at all.
>>114424068Those Holos started out not doing them. FUWAMOCO used to do at least one a month.
Ultimately people are best off when they have to fight to live another day. The moment they have more than they need, their eyes start to wander. I feel like they could clearly see what was important when they were still struggling.
Oh look at that, the JP stream started on time with no issues whatsoever. Miracle how everything was fixed in time. Lucky break I guess.
>have to reload the tab just to get the stream goingwtf youtube
>>1144241585 minutes late
>>114424158The EN curse is real
>>114424158It's the EN curse, retard.
>>114424169No, it was ontime, reload your tab.
>>114424163That's been the case for me for like 2 weeks now. saar needs to stop shitposting ITT and fix YT.
>>114424182>>114424173Debut Advent proved the curse was just laziness and now current FUWAMOCO are proving it again. They can do it if they really want to and they really want to for JP streams.
>>114424183It's FWMC dumbass, they're supposed to starts 5 minutes earlier
They really need to bau bau less in collabs
>waiting screen for a whole 3 minutes after starting 5 minutes lateThey're dying
Is it bad that I can understand what they're saying despite never formally studying japanese?
>>114424235weeb
So instead of streaming Mococo's been grinding Puyo Puyo offline instead
>>114424235this isn't exactly a zatsu stream, they're just screaming OH NO as they play
>>114424052I wanted them to integrate more with JP since 2023. Always thought it was a waste that they didn't and took solace in the fact that at least they spend a lot of time with them at the studio, I'm really liking all the collabs. I even thought "it's kind of embarrassing they still didn't invite Sora to a 3D live" during their latest collab so the new announcement made me even happier.
>>114424235You're doing your reps even if you don't want to.
>>114424249I'm glad you're having a good time, genuinely. I just am sad all the other stuff has fallen to the wayside.
>>114424235Kids don't study their native language until much later in school, you just learn by exposure. It's not the fastest method so people trying to learn a new language prefer to just study it, but if you immerse yourself in a language you'll eventually learn the basics.
>>114421402UAB UAB
>>114421402BAU BAU
>>114422353I will behave for Kuro-chan.
I need to catch a glimpse of floofies.
>>114424441pervert
>>114424484Eh, Fuwawa doesn't mind perverts. I'm proof of that.
>>114424441kys gachitard
>>114424484thanks
>Fuwawa didn't do her Tetris homework
for puyo, combo hurts more than clearing multi-tile at once?
>>114424595Yes.>t. Played Puyo during lunch hour every day for a year with a bunch of other guys at school in the 00's.
Mococorrecting Fuwawa
I love the fluffy panic noises
>>114424595yeah, you can set up a seven or 8 combo in puyo compared to 4 at a time for tetris. However puyopuyo combos take longer compared to cranking out tetris's one after another
How is this Puyo shit in this game still allowed. Didn't the last tournament already showed that it has a significant competitive advantage over regular Tetris? Even Suisei can't win over an average Puyo Player.
>>114424574>Fuwawa and not wanting to do homeworkName a more iconic duo.
>>114424671Mococo and wanting to do it
>>114424671Mococo and wanting more homework.Checkmate fucker
>>114424665>Japan made a game mashing up a popular game in Japan and a game known worldwide by almost everyone in a non-third world country>They make their domestic franchise 3x stronger in the mashup mode than the more popular franchiseJapan loves to wave around their tiny penis all the time.
>Fuwawa reminds me of Katara from ATLA
PSYCH YOU THOUGHT
oh shit they actually came back to get clapped by Peko kek
>>114424260>>114424298Oh. Cool. Sub really is better than dub. Not for any technical or quality reason but because I accidentally learned the most common words of language from wasting my life playing videogames and watching anime.Neat.
>>114424736In what world? Who even said that?
>>114424763Some gray in chat
she gonna be kerberos if she win?
>>114424719https://youtu.be/ey0CVtp8UcU
Fastest things that let gen z instantly clock fuwamoco as millennials, 2 words>But, gnome
>you need to beat both of them to winsasuga twin boss abyssgard
>>114424810whaet
friendship ends with fuwamocofuwamocopeko is my new oshi
>speaking english in japaneseholy kino
>>114424793The problem is that for tetris vs, the strategy is usually tetris into 1-2 line to combo over and over with each block drop. With Puyo, you get all those combos set up and they chain which sends in bulk instead of in chinks like the tetris side does with running combos ob each tetris piece dropping.
>>114424736I want to fill Fuwawa with hope.
>>114424882English?
why aren't they wrapping it up now? they were eager to fuck off a second ago.
>That drop from 22k to 7.5kWhat happened.
>>114424927the bitches with talent left
>>114424927Coaching ended, Peko and more streams started. They also faked out like 5k people when they put up their end screen for a minute
>>114424946This is exactly what will always happen. They want to get JP fans when JP fans will always fuck off to Pekora or some other first army JP.
>>114424927Pekora and Marine left, and now it's just Fuwamoco left so the JP Tourists left as they don't actually care about Fuwamoco at all. As much as they like to pretend, they aren't Japanese.
>fuwawa aiming for tetris>mococo just aiming for a simple 2-chain comboyeahkinda obvious who'd winand i guess suisei got it right, fuwawa needs to do line cleaning rep, because her playstyle would really benefits from itsenchou trying to teach mococo all that strat to make family stuff seems to fly all over mococo head tho
>>114424956That 15-20k casual JP fans will spend far more than any other chunk of their fanbase. Makes sense to appeal to them as much as possible to get them to show up for events where they have some merch to sell.
are they aware there's no JP member on stream anymorethey can speak english now
>6.6k nowDropping like a stone.
>>114424983/jp/ man go home
>>114424985Yeah except they'll spend it on Pekora's merch or Subaru's. Chasing that elusive audience that won't actually shell out for you, we tried that already with Hololive CN.
>>114424990What world do you live in? Of fucking course it'd drop when the talents people are actually showing up for dip out. Why do you think they had most of the big dogs on their first 3dlive.
>>114424920Moco-chan said "it's ok, it's ok" and Fuwawa replied "in what world is this ok?"But this exchange was all in japanese, and these aren't really japanese expressions. She was expressing herself how she would in english with a literal translation to japanese, kinda cool to see happen live.
>>114425014I thought FUWAMOCO were trying to live in a world where they get JP fans, sure doesn't seem like those fans are actually there for them, just more to see Marine or Pekora.
>>114425002You say that like they don't outsell basically every other EN member. That large portion of casual fans might have a lower % that buy their merch, but if 30% of 5k is 1.5k and 10% of 20k is 2k, then who's better to appeal to?
>>114425002>he doesnt understand DD
>Is awake and free at JST prime time>Likes a japanese hobby>Likes a japanese company>Refuses to learn japanese and seethes about JP contentExplain
>>114425024that 6k after the dip? still more than if they stream in EN
>>114425034>You say that like they don't outsell basically every other EN member.Low bar after Gura left
>>114425051Mental illness?
>>114424927Marine is already in another collab. Anyone there for her would naturally not want to miss it.
>>114425057They both had more FwU stock than Gura when she was still here by the way
>>114425051>Is awake and free at NA prime time>Joined the EN branch of a company>Speaks English as their first language>Refuses to stream in English and deliver EN content.
>>114425073"Still here" is doing a lot of heavy lifting considering Gura was basically gone by late 2022 before they even debuted.
>>114425085You can apply this to the whole ID branch kek
>>114425085>free at NA prime timelollmao even
>>114425112They are. They sleep 3 hours a night and spend the rest of the time signing up for needless homework. They could choose to stream at the same times they used to, they just don't. They promised their stream times wouldn't change when they moved.
>check high-level puyo vs tetris plays>tetris player make lot of high quality cheap shots with t-spin to send garbage ASAP>puyo player build towers so garbage affect them lessneato
> Marine coaches Vivi> はじまりん!!> Follows up with exceeding praise, これ神童です!!> Marine coaches Mococo - はじまりん!!> Mococo doesn't seem to understand anything, struggles to do basic combos despite pushing, no response after.> Marine immediately moves on to coach Akiはじまりん!!
>>114425085Reason enough to drop them and watch someone else if the only time you have available is NA prime time. Still didn't answer my post.
>>114425144Why should I learn Japanese to watch members of the EN branch?
>>114425073Their FwU came out a year after Gura had hers
>>114425131none of what you're saying is related to what i'm saying at all, bot-kunalso>They promised their stream times wouldn't change when they moved.https://www.youtube.com/live/sFtVsNvqFLQ
>>114424927Jap tourists were only there for Marine.
They want you to fap yourself right now
>>114425144NTA, and I don't hate JP content when it's a sometimes, not an all the time. Doubly so when the 'main' content dries up almost completely. I know the 'If I wanted JP, I'd be watching JP' faggy idea is thrown around all the time as a slight towards them doing any JP content, but I feel like it applies a little more in this case.
Fuwawa really likes that cowkini, hehe
>>114425164https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1761674285574459786
>>114425137Marine gets cute aggression
>>114425195https://www.youtube.com/live/sFtVsNvqFLQ
>>114425195>bot can only reply with canned post when presented with unexpected rebuttal9783
>>114425164>>114425203Are you forgetting a timestamp here or what?
Good lord just move on. It's not like they'll magically return to the NWP one day and everything will go back to normal.
>>114425232>he doesn't understandlmao
>>114425186They have a 3D live with a huge announcement at JST prime time and they're doing a week for JP collabs to promote it. How is this not a "sometimes" situation? If you're gonna seethe any time corporate idols try to promote a big event you should go watch indies.
>>114425221You're 'rebuttle' is showing a singular stream in a myriad of 'regularly scheduled streams'Meanwhile we're getting 8 streams in the last 3 weeks at a 'non-normal' time and 3 at the usual
>>114425186So watch someone else? I hear Nerissa is good
>>114425257>Please JP come watch us!>Oh, I guess you can show up to EN fans, but don't worry if you can'tThat sure is a statement.
>>114425267
>>114424249If you want to watch Holo JP just go watch Holo JP anon.
>>114425240If they return to the NWP they'll resent not being able to do what they love forever. Plus it'll probably be to take care of their parents.EOP ruffians on /vt/ are just clueless control freaks.
this fag is trying so hard to get rid of his competition. kys.
>>114425267nandatte
>>114425278You saying that is just solidifying this faggot anti-JP shitposter right. That fucker might be screaming for all JP streams to validate his shitposting, but I'm not.
>>114425163and?
>>114425286>everything must cater to everyone forever
>>114425286Maybe if EN fans actually showed up then they wouldn't need to schedule at JP times. Vivi got a 100k, when is the last time EN managed that
>>114425286They only said that for the English class thing, Moco-chan begged EN fans to make time for the 3D live. Watch streams.
>>114425313The only thing that's moved is their regular streaming time.Honestly, I'm sure it'll go 'back to normal' in a week or two, but it sure as hell won't be the reverse where we get 8 EN streams and 3 JP ones, it'll be 3 EN and 1 JP stream in 2 weeks.
>>114425350>regular streaming time
>>114425345Except when they said multiple times that they understood if someone couldn't watch live because it's a shit time for NA. But you'll ignore all of those too because you're a disingenuous faggot.
>>114425278>I hear Nerissa is goodSaid no one ever
We counting appearances on other's channel as JP streams now? I thought JPschizos didn't count those back then?
>>114425296I do? It's why I want the EN talents I like the most to integrate well with them. I'm getting my wish, you're the one who should be listening to advice on what to do instead of trying to give me any and whining that they don't do what you want. You didn't see me whining about EN collabs in the past 3 years.
>>114425360Well that confirms you're some kind of bot that searches for some string of those words, because if you had any brainpower, you'd have read the rest of that post. Keep going though, it's really funny. Here, I'll even help you.>Regular streaming time>NA hours>JP hours>Schedule changed>NA Primetime
>>114425406I don't see the problem. You're awake right now and shitposting here the time isn't stopping you from watching. What's the issue?
>>114425350>3 EN and 1 JP streamThat ratio is acceptable.
>>114425278>watch>NerissaBro really recommended someone in the "top 5 ENs who streams the least" list
>>114425369And they begged people to make an effort to watch this specific one. I literally acknowledged the other event she said it's ok to miss, who is being disingenuous here? Yes they do always say it's ok they understand when the time is bad, but for this specific one Mococo said otherwise. Not sure what point you're trying to prove but you need to watch streams.
>>114425137> Marine immediately moves onAll coaching sessions by Marine are around 1 hour long. Even in your example of Marine and Vivi collab, Marine left after about an hour because she is just too busy.
>>114425432More likely than not, a stream at this time is a JP stream, which leads to the other issue that a majority of their content in the last month has been for multilingual or JP fans, moreso JP fans because they want to get the sales for merch and hype for sololive.
>>114425406I'm not the one adding all those adjective like peanuts when shit ain't going the way I want>the rest of that postOh, you mean irrelevant whining that ain't related to the original discussion?
>>114425350I thought you have 2 STEM degrees? 3/4 is a better ratio than 8/11.
>>114425475h-haeh? but that's granny goku..,
>>114425475Moco-chan isn't eating enough strawberries, her skin is a bit rough...
>>114425491Sorry. Wrong picture.
b-b-b-but you said there won't be no tech issues on jp stream
I don't get this. When Bae told brrats she wants to do more JP streams and collabs to gain more JP mindshare, her fans are fine with it and it ended well for her. When FWMC wants to do it, you fags throw a tantrum.
Moco-chan retweeted the sexy hootenanny again.
>>114425506Sisters...what the fuck?! QUICK TO THE DISCORD ASAP!!
>>114425516>We're ok this time
>>114425508Ruffians ended up full of ironic weebs who haven't picked up any Japanese because they watched dubbed DBZ for some reason
>>114425508They've been getting more viewership on their JP streams than EN ones. This board is dead and threads are kept alive by one or two schizos. You only need one angry enough retard to determine what "ruffians on /vt/" think.
>>114425508bae still does EN streamsif it weren't for collabs FWMC's EN streams recently would be nonexistent
>>114425479>EN fans must be catered at all time forever
>>114425508Bae is a whore and her fans are cucks.
>>114425506Paizuri Chancehttps://x.com/tika_illust/status/2092568835002126661
>>114425532I watched dubbed DBZ because it was all that aired on TV. The moment I had access to fansubbed anime I never looked back. Those crispy ass real media 20mb releases, couldn't see shit.
>>114425527>ok this time>still haven't started yetAIIEEEEE
>>114425508Bae also streamed for her EN fans at her normal time when she would spam JP streams. Can't say that about FWMC.
>>114425544Bae skipped pretty much the whole of enreco but was miraculously able to do holoGTA. If FWMC did that, you guys will scream murder.
>>114425558Those animelab days.
Bae is a whore
we are eating good
>>114425565You could back during the Golden Week spam, because they got scared by all those members complaining and scheduled extra streams to try and stop any bleeding of EN fanbase. Doesn't matter anymore now that the JP casuals out-purchase the EN hardcore fans. Who the fuck needs the EN casual fanbase when it's 1/10th the size of the JP one?
>>114425577Why are english translators like this? No, seriously, I don't think it happens to any other language, kek.
>>114425572Did you forget what kind of JPschizos are among the Ruffians? One of them had a mental breakdown because of the JP ASMR kek
>>114425508Alot of Bae's EN fans aren't from America. She has a bigger following from Australia, Korea and so on and those aren't the type to throw a fuss.
>10 minutes lateThey're dieded
>>114425579She can hide me inside her inverted nipples with floofies this big.
>>114425589Ruffians are always eating good, anti shitposting will never change that.
>the Mococock is real
>>114425603Wasn't kojima mad at the english translator for MGS? It has always been an issue.
>>114425622BAUSEDHere through the thick and thin.
>>114425628CARLOOOOS
>>114425508Bae also shilled Homos on her fucking debut stream, anyone who oshis her is a cuck.
>>114425572if FWMC skipped enreco I would've been very happy kek
>>114425608Not to mention Bae was pulling 2-3k extremely regularily for a LONG time. She had almost no fans, EN or otherwise for a long while. Meanwhile FWMC had a huge swath of EN fans at the start, and a lot of people who liked their perserverence and dedication to streaming.
why is there gay bowser in my animal game
>>114425642Same guy who ended up funding the company that translated Yunyun Syndrome, which recently went viral for the translation quality.
who the fuck said kuma
>>114425666they would have skipped it if they weren't mandated to for the advent story
>2.6kGod damn, where'd all those people go?
I don't understand
>>114425681EN translators are wack. I was playing genshin a couple years ago and the original chinese script in a scene was some dude fatshaming another dude. The Japanese script followed it and did the same. The English script changed the whole conversation to talking about tea and how walking is good for health.
>>114425508>This lower class whore who set low standards from debut did X>Why are people who followed FUWAMOCO for their schedules, consistency, and overall quality mad that schedules, consistency, and overall quality have fallen?
I don't know if Noel's fans tend to be people who have her as 2nd or 3rd or if they just don't like big collabs but she always has low viewership during those. I noticed FWMC always beat her every time they're both participating, but her solo streams are stronger than theirs.
>>114425724They are doing better than Noel, a member of the golden gen so eh?
>>114425747KEK wtfI can respect someone not wanting to translate "fat shaming", but you stand your ground by refusing the job and explaining why in public, not vandalizing other people's work.
>>114425755Same with koyori. She tends to do very badly in big collabs but her solo streams are respectable.
>>114425724Half of Hololive is streaming right now.
>>114425803I guess they have become just side girls for most EN viewers then.
>Marine is already on her third streamJesas.
>>114425825>for most EN viewers>at JST
>>114425755ASMR fans probably aren't going to enjoy the noise of large collabs
Oh, so you're supposed to record random animal noises first which then will be replayed by the animal NPCBut the animal players supposed to make random noises in real time over time
>>114425847kek
>>114425825They have literally NEVER been for EN viewers during JP collabs. It's why people like Ina, Bae, and even girls who can't speak any Japanese like Gigi will get more viewship during big JP collabs. They speak almost entirely in Japanese for the stream while those others try to include EN viewers by speaking English to them here and there to fill them in.
>>114425884>BaeYou are wrong. They beat Bae all the time. Ina and GG are the strongest in EN when it comes to collabs so your point doesn't stand.
>>114425899About the only person they beat during JP collabs is Kiara lolNice win bro.
>they didn't know that animal NPC will just randomly run away
>>114425847She does well with her gaming streams and she screams like Fuwawa when anything happens. Watch her playing Nioh.
who the fuck use ajimaru yo
>>114425971Matsuri, probably
I mean, if they synced during recording, everything else must sync else it'd be weird
Slut puppies.
Remember when FWMC did other content besides collabs
>>114426037So much milk.
thank goodness they managed to resolve their tech issues from last night in time
no technical difficulties this time?
>>114426068Some during the start of the Marine collab, none for them this collab.
>>114426084how curious
Fuwasheep is cuter than Mocosheep
i dont wanna live in a world where haters are always right
>>114426121I am not a hater, I'm just tired of them giving up easily when it's about fixing issues during EN collabs and them not doing something else when their plan doesn't work.
>>114425508Bae has a more international fanbase. She's not going to catch flak from Koreans and Taiwanese and HK fans for not speaking English all the time. Bae joined during Mythmania which had a more core Hololive JP oriented fanbase. Mori's anti-idol culture phase, Council, Omega's homo push chasing nijiEN homos, all contributed to opening the floodgates to a different kind of fan. By the time FWMC joined, the EN fanbase was significantly altered. There are oldfag ruffians, but a big chunk of barely learned of Hololive through Advent saving EN. They are more likely to only know indie vtuber culture than the core JP experience that came before. It's why you see a lot of ruffians going back to indies.
>>114426109Their audio has been fucked for like 2 years, they just need a different audio setup.
>>114426068>>114426084watch stream
HAX
Damn anya is crack
>>114426229how did she do thatis the noise really differs that much
>>114425649>>114425749kill yourselves "ruffians"
Told you FUWAMOCO don't like fart sounds.
>>114426139Wanna know why?It's because the issues that come up during the JP timeslot are during the later half of their day, when they're fully awake and aware and can think better about solutions.If you woke up in the morning before you had to go into the office, and your toaster wouldn't work when you went to toast some bread, are you gonna troubleshoot the toaster and make the toast anyways, or are you just going to say 'fuck it' and eat something else/go order takeout for your hot breakfast?
they can't keep syncing like this
Anya is cheating
>>114426242She is just crack. I don't know how she managed to find FWMCgoat
>>114425649Bae is and will always be a harder worker and a more dedicated streamer than your lazy ass dogs. Does it hurt knowing that she doesn’t have to cater to incels and she’s still more successful? Reply without crying.
>>114426284Is there thousands of fans expecting to watch me eat the toast? dumbass
YMD!
>>114426318>Misses the point entirelyYou're retarded
>>114426310kill yourself "brat"
>>114426310
>>114426310>will always be a harder worker and a more dedicated streamer than your lazy ass dogs.>streams less than FWMC?
>the random cow npc took the hitHAX
HOLY SHIT THAT WAS CLOSE
>>114426331>my food analogy that doesn't consider the fact that they have fans expecting to watch their streams was goodretard
>nigerunakek
kinoeh
To make a food analogy FUWAMOCO are like a delicious muffin that I would very much like to jam my dick into
>>114426343>Bae EN streams in August: 12>FWMC EN streams in August: 9
>>114426367Again, missing the point entirely. It's not a food analogy you dimwit, it's a time management analogy.
That sheep line is a bad idea kek
>>114426397Let me help your stupid, feeble mind understand better.If I were to wake up in the morning and the hair drier I like to use to quickly blow my hair stopped working, I'm not going to sit there and try to figure out why when I have to be to work in 30 min, I'm just going to dry my hair with a towel and call it a day. If I found out I didn't have a clean towel, I would just suck it up and air dry it, not do laundry first.
>>114426391>Bae EN streams in July: 9>FWMC EN streams in July: 11???
>>114426449>9>11Never forget
>>114426434Is there thousands of fans expecting to watch you dry your hair?
>>114426449TENTACLE SLIME CAN'T MELT DWARF STEEL
>>114426449>Bae EN streams in July and August: 21>FWMC EN streams in July and August: 20Your response? We could play this game all day long, but I don't think you'd like the results if we went all the way back to the start of the year.
>>114426449>Bae EN streams in June: 12>FWMC EN streams in June: 6
>>114426465Just because you can't dry your hair on time doesn't mean you can just skip going to work or showing up late. FWMC likely have things to do during the JP daytime, hence unable to sit around and play tech support to themselves for a stream that likely wasn't going to last more than a couple of hours. It's like you're pretending to have brain damage on purpose.
>>114426471>Bae: 1.3K videos over 5 years>FWMC: 1K videos over 3 years
wrap this shit up and get to liking your favorites' posts
>>114426497saying this when they went from 7 or more streams a week to 2 or 3 if you are lucky
>>114426497Grok, how many of those streams were in the first year for FWMC?
wrap it up, girls
>>114426485again, is there thousands of fans waiting to watch you dry your hair? It's like you don't want to acknowledge the problem
How the hell is anya so good at hearing the differences
>>114426569Time doesn't shift, the job you have to do in 2 hours isn't going to magically change its time just because something went wrong earlier in the day, and you can't just switch things around all willy nilly. But I guess I wouldn't expect some jobless pagpag eater to understand.
>>114426569Do they want to watch you trying to dry hair with a broken hair dryer? Is drying hair with a broken hair dryer fun?
>>114426609You're wasting your time trying to reason with anyone here bro.
>>114426647Funny, because while I can see why and argue for the need to just cancel the EN collab, I can still laugh at FWMC's unwillingness to cater to EN fans ever anymore.
>no post-massageTHEY HATE US
>>114426669Outing yourself as always
>>114426485They still worked for the same company before the move so either:1.) The things they have to do are flexible and can be done whenever, and they are choosing to do it at certain times that end up fucking over EN streams.or 2.) Since moving to Japan they've taken on even more work that can only be done during the JP daytime which again fucks over streams.Either way they are choosing to fuck over their EN audience.
>>114426609they run into problems when it's EN streams all the time but that never happens for their JP collabs. You can try to divert the topic all you want but it's not going to work. These are the facts>abysmal drop in the number of streams>when there's any problem or they feel a bit sick they cancel their EN streams>many of the times this has happened there was a JP collab hours lateroh also another fact>Birthday 2025 at EN hours>Birthday 2026 at EN hours>Anniversary 2026 at JP hours
>>114426724
>>114426724Make a list of all the times this has happened and then make a chart. ENs always see charts.
Pups were cute, I had fun/10
Were like only one or two people actually watching the stream here.
>>114426745I'm at work so I can only post here.
>>114426745I was, but I don't know Japanese. There were some fun moments, but it kinda just becomes a babble of sound at some point with some goofy moments.
anya too op pls nerf/10
>>114426724>Anniversary 2026 at JP hoursTheir anniversary stream was the VN karaoke at EN hourshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1vE21rZEv8
oh btw, if you really are ok with them going full JP pandering my best guess is YOU are the pagpag eater, since SEA hours accomodate to JP hours. Unlike me who get fucked by their collabs happening between 7 to 9 am
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE
>>114426745I watch it. Anya is crack. I like FWMC doing the lapu-chan line.
>>114426784And yet you got enough time to shitpost for 4 hours straight
>>114426721>Your point makes sense but I don't care!Concession accepted>>114426724Good job ignoring that they don't have anything scheduled later at night meaning if there's tech issues, they can fix them and stay a little longer in the collab.
>>114426773yes and their 3D Live is at JP hours. I thought it was obvious I was talking about 3D Lives
>>114426784I wfh and my work starts at 10am so...
>>114426809No it wasn't obvious. In fact, this anniversary 3Dlive is an EXTRA stream. They had never done it before. I am even surprised cover gave them an extra 3D slot.
>>114426784Bro nobody got time to be shitposting 7 to 9am, get a fucking job and stop leeching from your mom.
>>114426809they got birthday 3d last year?
>>114426794nope. I am a lurker, I never post unless they cancel a EN stream because it makes me feel like shit and I need to let it out somewhere. I will vent and then go silent, hoping it doesn't happen again
>>114426855KEK
>>114426871>I am a lurker,Another word for an unemployed loser who is constantly angry at twin dog vtubers.
>>114426871>he said>as he post instead of going silentSure buddy
>>114426859are we for real now? yes they did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouQF2A1l_cI
>>114426871>he vent 12 hours after the factwhat a way to go silent
>>114426897ooooooh i'm sorryyyyyy i thought we're talking about anniveerrsaryyyy because suddenly you change the last part into anniversaryyyy
>>114426912why play dumb? accept your mistake. the point was how their 3D Lives went from EN to JP hours. Let's see what happens in 2027.
>>114426939do they have anniversary 3d last year
>>114426884>I will vent and THEN go silentlearn to read>>114426900yeah I fucked to bed the moment they had to leave
>>114426954>fucked to bed at 7PM
>>114426954>he said>as he post more non-vent instead of going silent
I just miss the days of the dogs doing retro game streams. I know they had that issue with perms for OoT but they never went back to it and I just wanna see that era of fwmc return
>>114426987Habibi said music haram
I wonder if all the people who are happy that they are focusing just solely on events would feel the same way if they focused solely on doing VN streams.
>>1144269799 pm>>114426986if you keep replying I will keep doing it too. I feel fine now to be honest, looking forward to the anniversary live
>>114426987Hey, they played SotN 2 weeks in a row. We might see it again for another 2 months, and then for a single 3 hour stream, but they did play for 2 weeks!
>>114427009>fucked to bed at 9PM
>>114427004No, because their hypocritical shit eaters. I want to be eating good, not eating shit.
>>114427004Depends on the VN? If it is something like nekopara sure. No wall of text like FSN please.
>>114427019They've done more Japanese streams in this past week than they've done SoTN streams total.
>>114427043What is a VN? A miserable pile of texts
>>114427049They have done the same number of SoTN streams as Mori did(over a span of 6 months). Yes, konami perms are retarded.
wow pekora raided their waiting room.
>>114427004They can focus on whatever they want I'll watch when I'm interested and my oshi when I'm not
>>114427121>and my oshiSo you watch them over your oshi???
>>114427004No, but if they focused solely on VN streams from the start I would likely have lost interest on month 1.
>>114427148Because the times he picks them over his Oshi is when they're doing some kind of event and that's it. He probably buys more of their merch than the average EN casual fan too. Dirty Jap
>>114427086>isrealwtf, how big is the announcement considering Pekora isn't even on the 3D live? I'm now thinking sololive no longer makes sense, but what could be bigger?
>>114427062There are levels. FSN is jargon after jargon. Nekopara is cute catgirls talking about twins going into heat at the same time.
Feels weird to use SOTN for shitposting when they made it clear it would take a long time to return because of the disc thing. Do people here only look at the streams tab and not watch streams?
>>114427180It can't be a sololive announcement. Instead of "BIG ANNOUNCEMENT", they will write "SUPER DUPER ENORMOUS BIG ANNOUNCEMENT RUFFIANS"
>>114427160And what did they 'focus on' in the first month?
I've been watching them for 3 years now and you don't see me complaining.
>>114427193>Fixing a disc takes a long time!>There's multiple stores that will do it in Akihabara within a few daysUh huh
>>114427219In terms of content output they focused on variety, but in terms of goals and how they presented themselves they focused on events and performances from the start. "Can't wait to see them in 3D" was a very common sentiment because most of their long term and big goals relied on it to come true. Very few of their goals were related to playing games.But still, if they did nothing but play VNs I would probably think the in-between would be unbearable and would fuck off. Thankfully that never happened, they did variety between the big stuff and still do, but there's more big stuff now and less of the variety content.
>make a shitpost and leave>come back 3 hours later to see someone ran with it and is still goingdamn
If Mococo is a Cowgirl, and Shiori's a cow, then what are Fuwawa, Biboo and Nerissa?
>>114427246>believing those akiba stores>thinking it's about fixing the disc
>>114427246You can not believe them, but the fact is that they made it clear that it would take a long time and to not expect it any time soon. It's like using RE4 Remake to shitpost about abandoned playthroughs when it's the one game they said with every letter is never coming back. The expectations were properly set, if you're disappointed it's on you.
>>114427269I need them to touch noel's floofies....
>>114427182Agreed, Fate is easily the worst VN they played. At least the english version, you never know with these things how much was lost in translation, but yeah the english writing was atrocious.
>>114427275>Mococo is a CowgirlMococo is a cowboy, Fuwawa is a cowgirl.
>>114427301They need to host some kind of tournament with Noel's titties as the prize. But the only people participating in the tournament are Fuwawa and Mococo.
https://youtu.be/mnMPPEB9DcQ
>>114423101you're coping
>>114427390Holy kino
>>114426310TRVKE
>>114427182>>114427313but i like pechanko....
>>114427425the brat ruffian here is a skinny little bitch
>>114427425ruffbros... suddenly my barker isn't barking too good...
>>114075493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoPk8_DvMH8Fuwawa will be busy this christmas. No stream.
It's probably a Sololive in like January
>>114427543>this pose>that laughthis guy got aura holy shitis he like this in the og too?
The placement of the members in the thumbnail is symbolic. EN are at their backs because they're turning their backs on them and moving on to join holoJP which is the big announcement. They don't care about worthless EOP ruffians from debut anymore they got what they wanted. And if any of those losers still will keep buying merch and flying to Japan despite being worthless in their eyes they won't complain.
>>114427589Who asked nigga
>>114427543https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoPk8_DvMH8&t=60sここ好き
>>114427543Imagine the shitshow if they play this on stream kek
>>114427425Both look Gay
>>114427550Hopefully. Although that means I'll be skipping fes this year but I was already considering doing that anyways now that it's become so cookie cutter in person.
>>114427589>EN are at their backs>On Mococo's head and shoulder?
Do you notice the shitposts intensifying as we get closer to the 3D live.
>>114427655They're reaching towards JP and away from EN. We already saw this behavior today when they skipped out on advent but made damn sure to do both jp collabs. They couldn't even stay and chat with advent while the others played? I guess now that they have their sololive they don't have to pretend to care about advent as much anymore because that gen live concert contingency isn't needed after reaching their highest peak. They're better then everyone else in advent.
>>114427678not really no. the thread was completely dead just hours ago when it fell asleep
What happened for so much shitposting to occur
>>114427720FWMC getting sololive lightyears faster than Bae apparently
Can't say I expected to see anan openly shitting on FUWAMOCO on my for you page today. Pretty rude to insult their individual merch like their birthday shirts and sets all because he's on this crusade that they are not individuals and have to always be together as FUWAMOCO only.
>>114427708
>>114427757Back when she was still happy and did cute streams with ruffians :(I also still go back to their first solo birthday streams and pretend I'm in a world where they still cared about us that much.
oh they GENUINELY skipped and advent collab but were there for 2 jp collabs? are you fucking serious?
>>114427795Hey they pretended to work on it for an hour before cancelling. They also had some very good excuses to not just do a zatsu or another game that had worked for them recently. It was completely out of their paws!
>>114427778
>>114427795and they're skipping streaming for the ruffians to help biboo
>>114427678notice how the shitpost only start when some timezone awoke
>>114427830I thought they were busy practicing for their concert which clearly isn't recorded yet according to retards here? How do they have time to show up on someone else's stream?
Why do fuwamoco larp so hard as japanese? They know they're white gaijins that'll never be japanese right
>>114424249>I wanted them to integrate more with JP since 2023Congrats then, they did exactly what you wanted at the cost of fucking over every single one of their EN fans. I guess their words meant absolutely fucking nothing. Hope you enjoy FWMC the holoJP members, because some of us wished FWMC would be "holoJP but in English" and they are now just generic JP members.
>>114427871ええやん外人出ろ
>>114427871the bridge they claimed to be only flows one way
They should probably go back and delete that tweet about their stream times never changing if they haven't already before someone calls them out on twitter...
>>114427708better then
>>114427634If they don't lose and clear in one go they're safe, if they lose they get banned from youtube. Kino.
>>114427937https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFtVsNvqFLQ
>>114427871>I want them to be holoJP but english but without interacting with holoJP everYou never understood holoJP and didn't know what you wanted. You just wanted GFE.
>>114427971oof this one's gonna stick his nerve
>>114427951The cope was that they would have some JP streams but all the big events and most streams would be at 6PM PST. Even for their birthdays this year that still was somewhat true even though half of the event was at JST they still did the concert at a normal time. Now the biggest event of their lives according to them is JST and they've done only Japanese streams leading up to it after cancelling the single English one. There's no way any sane person can look at all of that and say they kept up that promise. I don't know why they even said it, they always say shit they don't intend to follow up on like the members wallpapers and asmr too. It would be better to be quiet than openly lie.
>>114427970Even just looking at them is making me feel depressed now
I do wish there are more branchwide holoEN collabs but I will gladly accept any jp collabs they do
>>114428030
>>114422355>I've been really disappointed with them lately. Same. It reached the point where I'm seriously considering oshihening depending on the announcement and stream output in the next 2 weeks. Not that it matters too much because they don't even stream in English anymore so it almost feels like I oshihened already.>It just really seems like they don't give a fuck anymore about anything but homework and eventsAnd JP streams. Somehow they are ALWAYS "too busy" to do EN streams, or they have "tech issues" for EN streams, but JP streams? Oh, they sure as hell don't miss those. Their last 4 streams were JST JP streams, the last EN solo stream was 2 WEEKS ago, they literally didn't even bother to do a single EN solo stream to promote the concert, and only made 2 guilt trippy YT posts and a shitty short to "promote" it to the EN Ruffians while doing 4 JP streams in a week. If you see that and still believe they aren't taking their EN fans for granted then I don't know what else to say.
>>114428049Yes saar we know that's an image you're very proud of in your 10 image rotation.
>>114427425KEKAROOOOO
>>114428055When is their last JP solo stream?
>>114428043Yeah would be nice to get more. I don't even need the big arc ones, those I don't like that much, but the recent holo amogus they did was fun.
>>114428067
>>114428055I could only laugh that the one stream at fuwamoco standard time that I could watch ended up being cancelled. I don't know why I ever expected anything else. I guess I'm destined to forever be a vod watching for an EN talent now, if I even want to go through that trouble. I may as well be watching movies or something if it isn't live.
>>114424052You know, the worst part about all of those things is the way FWMC just ignore ever doing it/promising to do it and basically trying to memory-hole it. I'd be okay with them dropping some of those things if they actually gave an explanation, even if it was on members only, but they just stopped caring. They promise something one day, drop it the next day and act like nothing happened.
>>114427734I feel like omonah gets it where a lots of licensed merch makers don't, that it should be FUWAMOCO merch instead of Fuwawa merch and Mococo merch and I appreciate that.Like, I can't wear a Fuwawa shirt and a Mococo shirt at once unless I cut them in half and sew them together.
>>114424988>FWMC streaming in EnglishLMAO
>>114428055I'm feeling the same way, at this point I don't really even care about watching the live tomorrow. Especially because so many of their 3d lives end up as 'am I kawaii uguu look at my butt/tits' rather than anything we actually like them for. I'm definitely not buying whatever merch they're hocking and at this point I'm seriously considering cancelling my membership, I'm gonna give it until the next cycle because I'm just hoping they've gotten caught up in the hype train for their 'anniversary' (not like it was a fucking month ago or anything) but if they don't go back to solo streaming and all we get are collabs I see no reason to keep watching them. That isn't what made me watch them in the past and it's not what I'm here for
>>114427841ameribrowns were always the shitposters
>>114428150>argument always ends with some form of "i'll stop supporting them"ちょいちょい
>>114428123>unless I cut them in half and sew them together.YAMERO
>>114428173No shit sherlock?
>>114425345>Moco-chan begged EN fans to make time for the 3D liveIf she really wants us to watch she'd do the stream on PT instead of JST. She can't have her cake and eat it too.
>>114428150I'm just going to watch it tomorrow evening or whatever because we already know it'll be in Japanese without subs for the live broadcast and I'm not about to wake up at 4am for something I don't understand. The merch won't sell out and even if it does maybe that's a blessing as you said.
>>114428187
>>114428199Don't worry, I'm sure you'll be here shitposting the whole time just like right now.
Dang I missed double kino today while working ehAnyway thoughts on their lineup? Seems nice, Sora, Watame, Miko and Korone all kino. Bibhu too of course.
>>114428055A short membership chatting stream or watchalong would go a long way. That's all I want but they seem disinterested in their membership ever since March.
>>114428194It's saturday, if you have time to be shitposting during work hours you definitely have time to watch it.
Stupid gaijin whores throwing away their EN fans for Jap cock
>>114428237how's ruische in performance?
>>114428237Very happy with it. Wouldn't mind if they decided to let Advent sit one out to open slots but definitely happt that they didn't. Would be great if they keep inviting Advent every single time.
>>114428237My thoughts are that I'm a fucking god for all my guesses being right.
>>114428150Nae...
>>114428233In case you didn't notice it's 9am now. I'm not waking up 5 hours earlier to watch or pretend to watch a fucking concert. Maybe if it were actually live or in English. My experience will be better than people that watched it live and I'll have a healthy sleep schedule. There's literally no reason to ruin yourself to watch live if you live in America, no one will notice it or care.
>>114428273Nice anon. Your reward is one cup of fuwamilkies.
Why are NA Ruffians so mentally ill and whiny.>Waah the stream is at a bad time for me I'm gonna poop my pants and shitpost on baubau about it
>>114428257I don't know but it would be kino if they did some menhera type song with her as a wall or something
>>114428286Sure buddyI'm sure you ain't the one that's been shitposting for the last 9 hours
>>114428281That psycho will not leave FWMC alone until the police have to come in and take him away.
>>114428245I'd rather drink heavily and try to forget about being abandoned than watch a JP focused live with a cynical marketing campaign, remember when they said they had HUGE ANNOUNCEMENTS at their karaoke and all it was was a 3d (JP) collab stream and them announcing their 3d live (also with BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS)? They've been baiting us for weeks like a carrot on a string, it's tiring at this point.
>>114428286>he's not usually waking up at 4AM to watch the moon changes place with the sunngmi
>>114428304you spend 9 hours replying to the shitposts
This girl reminds me of Mococo.
They have essentially the entire company getting out of the way of them and did a full week of advertising to JP with heavy hitter guests. If they don't break 100k like Vivi just did it's over.
>>114428316And that's why I'll be there tomorrow
>>114428296This. SEAffians are FWMC's real fans.
>>114428308what? Is the 3d live not a huge announcement? bae did the exact same thing with an announcement stream for her live and an announcement in her live. Other holos have done the same thing.
>>114428304That's you. I just woke up and clocked into work a little bit ago. I'm sure you're the retard EU or SEA retard always replying to bait, half of which is probably your own.
>>114428296lmao. EUfags do the same shit. the german retard can't stop bringing up how he has to be there at 3 a.m.
>>114428316>>114428330Both of you are sad holy shit. I can't imagine being here all day flinging shit at eachother over dumb arguments.
FUWAMOCO love brown penis.
>>114427678I noticed how FWMC stopped caring about their EN ruffians
>>114428358>clocked into work a little bit ago>then proceed to go to /baubau/
>>114428353With the amount we have nowadays it really doesn't feel like it, at this point we get a new 3d live in someway or another probably once a fortnight at this point, they don't feel in any way special or important anymore
>>114428380start stupid game win stupid prize
>>114428408Don't say that, you'd kill Kiara with that
>>114428296Don't forget who publicly complained about FuwaMoco's Twitter Spaces being held at JST times and effectively caused them to stop doing them altogether.
>>114428408Ok, maybe for you. But for every other holo and their fans it is a big announcement lol.
>collab spam>3d live called "thanks to hololive"The big announcement is they're graduating
>>114428296Yeah, let's pretend you EU fags didn't poop your pants over Cover having the holoEN concert in America again, or the bitching when Raora was streaming a lot during US prime time hours.
>>114428453You're talking as if EU fags exist
>>114428448I can finally leave vtubing behind forever if they do that
>>114428453all 5 of them
>>114428408They're still cool but now that the homos are kill I'm pretty sure anyone can have a 3D live any year they want. And many members are going on almost a decade of them so unless they do something creative it's just yet another hour of the same songs being done again which is fine but not as cool as it was in the past. Sololives are still a big deal even though it also is starting to feel like everyone who wants one can have one and cover is just going down the most and granting them all. I guarantee if/when fuwamoco announce their sololive tomorrow a lot of people will be questioning if it makes sense to be so soon and honestly they'd be right. What music do they even have out? They don't have the years of service like some of the runts that got sololives recently do but they also don't have the music.
>>114428242>A short membership chatting stream or watchalong would go a long way. Honestly? Yeah. And they would've done it in the past without issues.>That's all I want but they seem disinterested in their membership ever since March.I really don't understand what the fuck is going on with FWMC nowadays. It feels like they just stopped caring about the Ruffians. I don't understand why they suddenly stopped doing regular content on membership. I don't even care about the wallpapers but they promised they'd do them and they don't even have to do much for it, just ask manechan to hire some artist or something, literally no work from FWMC's part and they still don't do it for some reason.
>>114428424Thanks anan... Still won't forgive that faggot for saying that to them. I'm glad they mostly have moved on and ignored it now but for a while it felt like they genuinely were scared of JP stuff because their big paypig was against it.
>>114428431Is it a big announcement when they literally had a 3d live performance 2 weeks ago? Really? And a concert last month. Their cover of Saya no Uta felt like a much more significant announcement than a 3d live and yet we didn't get baited about announcements for announcements then.
>>114428286Hey man you do what you want to do. I'm in Europe so I can't see a lot of their streams. I do go out of my way to make it happen live for important big streams or milestone stuff or otherwise kino that I deem to be "special", but a lot of stuff is VOD for me.
>>114428448Makes you wonder if they will pull a Kanata after their sololive. Streaming isn't important to them, so why would they stick around after getting their dream sololive?
MOCOBRAP
>>114428510retard
Surely for an event this big they'll have English subtitles in the stream right?
>>114428500Yea, the advent 3d live performance also was a big announcement and the rest of advent treated it as such. I don't know why you are arguing with me on this if it's your opinion against literally the rest of holo.
>>114428535It's a concert.
>>114428548Yes but will they have subtitles for the announcement or am I going to have to wait for a tweet after the stream to know what it even is? I already accepted that all of the MC will be in Japanese with no subs.
>>114428567You don't need translations to understand that it's either some huge sponsorship, the VN or a sololive
>>114428544The issue I have is they've not mentioned anything about their 3rd anniversary merch besides eyebrow wiggling and 'your wallets will hurt when we announce it' so when you see HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT and then you're told we have a 3d performance in two weeks, maybe we'll announce merch there it feels like you're being baited at this point. Not to mention their VN? you know, the one they've talked about for fucking donkeys and given us no information about. Their communication and handling of announcements feels like particularly poor and just sets us up for disappointment. And I hated Fuwawa's excuse of 'we can't tell you anything because the ruffians will figure it out' I'd rather figure it out than feel like I need to watch every single stream to find out out something that could be a single twitter post
>fucking donkeysUh oh saar is melting down in his mud hut again
>>114428650Maybe you don't understand the importance of drumming up excitement to increase viewership
>>114428650It's funny when you randomly bring up their VN when they had their first big announcement people in this exact thread were complaining that announcing their VN would be a bad announcement since we already know it's coming.
>>1144228492021??What are you talking about?
>>114428685>10:00pm in IndiaIt all makes sense.
>>114428707>would be a bad announcement since we already know it's coming.It would be a great announcement.The status of the VN was just "we'd love to do it... not yet" for now.
>>114428650>the one they've talked about for fucking donkeysIs this a common 3rd world saying? Wtf does it even mean
>>114428688I get that and I know that's exactly why they've been doing nothing but JP streams for nearly the last 2 weeks, but there's a difference between building hype and giving their audience blue balls
>>114428533Learn what a shift key is saar.
>>114428769Sorry Sherlock, you missed. retard
>>114428769お馬鹿さん
>>114428734It's an english phrase, meaning being taken for a mug or a fool, like us EN viewers at the moment
>>114428296>Why are NA Ruffians so mentally ill and whinyMeanwhile the JP "ruffians":>do more JP streams!!>You have NA exclusive merch??!? How dare you!!
>>114428822There are no JP ruffians
>>114428838? What are you smoking my fellow ruff-friend? There are plenty of JP ruffians.
They hate EN fans and love JP tourists that don't care about them with 20 oshi marks in their name.
>>114428838There won't be any EN ruffians either if FWMC keep treating us like shit, so I guess there's no ruffians in general.
>>114428903Who needs shitposters when FWMC do all the work themselves?
Prediction:>sololive announcement in Japan, late January next year>no birthday concert stream as a result because it's too close>Merch drop for anniversary is a rerun of old merch>particularly happi so that all the tourist jp fans that never cared about them will have merch to wear to the sololive >pawprint penlights
>>114428996>sololive announcement in Japan, late January next yearThat would be epic.>no birthday concert stream as a result because it's too closeA sacrifice I would be willing to make.>Merch drop for anniversary is a rerun of old merchI think there will be a mix of new merch plus a rerun of some old stuff.>particularly happi so that all the tourist jp fans that never cared about them will have merch to wear to the sololiveIt would be understandable.>pawprint penlightsI wouldn't complain.
>>114428996No EN streams = no buy
>>114428996I wouldn't be surprised
>>114429054>you'llgetnothingandyou'llbehappyYou sound like stockholm syndrome given flesh
kek in the end it always boils down to the anti shitter not being able to handle that yes a lot of people are actually okay with the things they try to paint as unforgivable
>>114428500Literally most holos announce 3Dlives as a big announcement lol. I don’t know why you are acting all surprised about it
>>114429110I would get a sololive, some new merch and most importantly I would get to see FWMC be happy and successful. What else could a ruffian ask for?
>>114428996I still think it's too soon for a sololive. I want them to put out more music before that
>>114429169>anti shitterDoes telling the truth make you an anti? >"FWMC don't give a shit about the EN ruffians"Go ahead and explain how that's somehow not true.
>>114429202Same for me, but if it happens now then I guess there's nothing to do but be happy and try to make time so I can go. If it were up to me I'd say do the VN now, release more songs and then the sololive in 2 years maybe.
>>114428996People in this thread have wanted a merch rerun with the happi though because theirs was falling apart due to cover making the happis out of 100% polyester. The rest of those are good except for I guess if they didn't have a birthday concert stream but I would gladly take a sololive over a birthday concert.
>>114428996>sololive announcement in Japan, late January next yearI will be fucking excited if this happens but I just feel it is too early. We also have bae irys sora lui sololives all happening around the same time
>>114429189Streams? Interaction? The sense of community they've built for the ruffians? None of that exists without their input you know. I thought we were getting back to that for about a week and a half after serendipidity and then they've fucked us all off for the jp viewers to shill whatever announcement they have tomorrow
>>114429202I agree as well but given how they were always managements golden child since debut I wouldn't be surprised if they got the fast track to it. FUWAMOCO certainly wouldn't mind speedrunning to it either because they're always menhera about everything collapsing so they take on everything as soon as possible to check it off the list. Them having a sololive this soon on top of barely having music would definitely ruffle some feathers but fuck it we bau.
>>114429269>sense of community they've built for the ruffians?You're welcome
>>114429251Just buy one online then? There's an umpteenth amount going on mandarake, lashinbang and surugaya. If there's is ruined there's plenty of options to get a new one
>>114429269You are speaking to a wall. The people that have a problem with the way FWMC have been mistreating their fans are already complaining here, and the ones who don't, are yesmen who will never complain about anything.
>>114429313False.I do complain about some things. But this isn't something I mind, so I don't.Not everything is black and white.
stop shitting up the place and go back to your indie whores deepfriedscream
Look at what fuwamoco have done to the ruffians...this thread....
>>114429269>The sense of community they've built for the ruffians?lollmao even
>>114429312I mean you could say that about any merch any holo puts out the difference is it's official and the money (mostly) goes to the talent
>>114429332>I do complain about some thingsLol like what? Are you okay with them treating the EN ruffians like shit and taking us for granted?
What made sisters so uppity today?
>>114429355I'm tired of this fag bitching every time someone ever acts like Fuwawa and Mococo are individuals. He has some weird conteol fetish thing going on where they have to be together always or else the person is an anti. Saw him bitching out an artist alley vendor because they dared to have separate Fuwawa and Mococo keychains.
>>114429362Like them not being upfront about FWMC Morning's fate for example. I already knew it would get axed for good, I'm sure a couple of others suspected as much as well, but they kept trying to bring it back for short durations only for it to leave again anyway.
>>114429362They love their EN SEAfags and desert dwellers.
>>114429336>stop shitting up the placeYou can thank FWMC for that. Not even the shitposters wildest dreams would make a situation as shitty as this one. It's almost like FWMC are trying to speedrun the death of their EN fanbase
>>114429362How do they treat EN Ruffians like shit and take them for granted?
>>114429356Yeah? You've already paid the money to them, if the Happi is destroyed you CAN get a new one and there's plenty of ways to do that. You can't say that about 'any merch' because most of the merch is new, if resellers or new fans want to purchase them then they'll have to wait about 6 months before it ships. A happi however, I can jump on Lashinbang and buy one right now if I needed to.
>>114429395do you really think someone who goes outside like this is normal
>>114429441Is it wrongto think this looks like some sort of trans rights ghillie suit?
>>114429399>Like them not being upfront about FWMC Morning's fate for example.They did the same thing with the membership wallpapers and the ASMR, and they are basically doing the same thing now by focusing exclusively on their JP fans while the EN ruffians kick rocks, when they said stream times wouldn't change.
>>114429441None of us are normal, we're like close to 30 or above and watch virtual anime dog girls who bau bau 5 million timesAt least he's having fun and you're just sitting there in a dilapidated hut samefagging 10 hours a day
>>114429405They would fucking love having exclusively JP fans. I bet they won't care when all of their EN fans zenloss for the sololive either. IRyS had to bitch out management to make the 2nd wave of the lottery better for overseas fans after it was almost entirely nips that won in the first round. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if FUWAMOCO barely even have overseas tickets at all. They don't care and certainly won't try to comfort everyone that loses and will instead give likes to all the huge Ws of JP tourists posted. Thank God I set up a JP phone number and ticketing apps on my last fes trip.
>>114429441dude looks like a pedophile, no offence if you're here btw
>>114429472>They did the same thing with the membership wallpapers and the ASMRTrue. I'm not happy with that either and I'll likely include it as a bit of something I'm sad about in my next letter.I still don't mind them doing JP streams, I don't mind them collabing a ton with holoJP (I like hololive) and I sure don't mind them getting a sololive in Japan either.
>>114429472>when they said stream times wouldn't change.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFtVsNvqFLQ
>>114429480Is it fun to be a whiny bitch about everything? He's like a discord neckbeard that thinks lecturing everyone that doesn't fit his view is wrong. First with the tails in art, then JP Twitter spaces, now attacking cover and merch creators for not always grouping fuwamoco in everything. It's cringe.
>>114429441Why do you have a picture of Anan saved?
>>114429521>Is it fun to be a whiny bitch about everything?Ask your local shitposter how he feels complaining about nothingburger for the last 9 hours
>>114429416By not streaming for 2 weeks. By not even bothering to do a single EN stream to promote their "super important" concert while doing 4-5 JP streams this week. "We miss you", "we really want to spend more time with you", "we love you", all empty words and empty promises, they can do whatever the fuck they want and they decide to forget about the EN ruffians and focus almost exclusively on the JP fans.
>>114429269You shouldn't ask what your oshi can do for you but what you can do for your oshi.
>>114429536https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXCI1sPlVc0
>>114429483>They would fucking love having exclusively JP fans. Oh, I bet they would. They'd probably stream every day if they had a big JP fanbase
>>114429536Don't forget taking a month off before serendipity as well
>>114429441Nah but being so obsessed with a random man you don't know online to the point where you find him in a group photo and screenshot him to save to your computer is definitely normal
I see we're defending asshole ruffians like Anan again
>>114429570Just because the one shitting on him is a shit person doesn't mean he's not a shit person
>>114429559A month? More like almost 2 months.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1azdzbv/fuwamoco_just_announced_they_are_moving_to_japan/
>>114429570just because you're a shit person doesn't mean the other guy also ain't a shit person
>>114429599This was the beginning of the end of peak fuwamoco
>>114429605The difference is I never claimed to be a good person. Nice ESL post delete btw
x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1761674285574459786
>>114429629then how is saying you a shit defends he not shit
>>114429647fuwamoco a shit
>>114429639https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFtVsNvqFLQ
>>114429570You shouldn't call other ruffians dirty names, we need to stick together as a community.
>>114429654keky dumdum no corral
They might as well move to holoJP because they clearly don't care about the EN ruffians and would rather have a JP fanbase.
>>114429677why is ameriacn liek dies
>>114429669AnalOral
>>114429639I was disappointed when they said it because obviously sticking to the NWP times would be a dumb idea longterm. Making it easier for them with local JP times would always have been the smarter move.Maybe FWMC morning would still be alive.
>>114429659You really like reposting that even though it's completely irrelevant.
>>114429691https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFtVsNvqFLQ
>>114429697>he no 分かった草
