aspies are down so im ranting here. i have been loving streaming so far despite being small in size but i hate having to just bow and take any sexual harassment or plain old attention i dont want from old men because im just starting off and want to be at least known as someone who isn't a bitch. how do other women deal with this??? my models not even loli or sexy. i'm not dumb enough to risk scandal though. can someone tell me to suck it up so i feel better? tnx
>>114472120I mean, straight up sexual harassment is never okay no matter how big you are. Just quietly ban people like that.
>>114472120Get yourself a group of friends to shield yourself from the groomers
>>114472181i guess you're right. if theyre trying to hit on me with sexual phrases i do have basis for a ban, just dont wanna seem like an oversensitive bitch
show bob n vagen
>>114472120You're retarded for two reasons.1: You control your stream. If you don't like something or someone, just ban them. What is the actual worst that will happen? "Oh no this person who I didn't like in the first place won't watch me anymore"2. You may wish to reconsider streaming and especially vtubing if you're immediately bothered by people doing things you don't like because there's going to be a lot of that.If these two ideas seem contradictory that's a surefire way to confirm you're retarded because they're not. As long as you don't have a woman moment, you have the ability to know when something goes too far and when something is in good jest. If you can draw that distinction for yourself then you have nothing to worry about because other people will see your action as reasonable and proportionate. If you can't draw the distinction outside of "I just don't like it", then you're a retard who will inevitably perform a self-own because you're a narcissistic moron.
>>114472209Yeah me
>>114472439i can agree that im retarded for first reason, but theres a little bit more on line when youre trying to make a name for yourself and dont want to immediately smear your name because actual sexual harassment from a man twice your age was happening. thanks for the perspective tho
>>114472520Are you planning to do a hit piece about sexism in vtubing femanon?
>>114472552nah. everyone knows if you have boobs online, even when theyre not visible, youre gonna get old men drooling over you already, i cant say anything that hasn't been said beforei do think i should start building better friend circles around me to keep the groomers away tho
>>114472120Literally just say>sorry guys I dont want all that sexy talk I want to be seisoAnd ban their assess if they do not drop the act.
>>114472600Are you Zynoa?
>>114472605dont know why staying seiso didnt even cross my mind wtf maybe i am retarded. genuine thanks
>>114472520I don't particular understand your reasoning>dont want to immediately smear your name because actual sexual harassment from a man twice your age was happeningHow are you smearing your own name by banning someone who you don't like from your community for violating your own rules which are also standard affair across most vtubers?
I rhink it’s a skill issue but as you aware of it means you can impove yourself and either learn to ignore retards and treat them as npc’s or take more serious approach and try to shape your viewers so people who you don’t want to see gonna be in minority or won’t last for long
Sounds like typical 1view hell, the only people who will watch you are groomers looking for an easy target, and they have an expectation that you're desperate for viewers which is why they'll be very "blunt" about their sex pesting and not even bother to hide (they can just look for the next target if they get banned).Legitimately if you want to grow you have to just suck it up and pander to them, it's basically impossible to grow without that "coldly-calculating numberfag grifter" mindest. Which is why all twitch streamers are sociopathic scum.
>>114472639Cecilia immergrern dont you like them more when they are almost retarded
>>114472120>aspies are downTomorrow
>>114472692>How are you smearingI bet she gave in and sent something or played along with them in dms and now regrets it but doesnt want to ban those guys and end up with dm leaks.
>>114472245sounds like you are one lmao
>>114472120just mute or ban anyone who breaks your rules and if you need to update your rules do it, as long as you enforce your rules fairly and consistently and better yet do not bring it up on stream/twitter/wherever you'll be fine, just don't make a big deal of it, ban/mute, don't say anything. move on, if they complain on the same account or an alt just hand them a perma and pretend you didn't see anything
>>114472120post some examples
A helpful tip is separate yourself from rule enforcement through a moderator. Even if it's just you on a different account. Then if people really throw a fucking fit, you can blame the mods for being overprotective and undo the ban.
>>114472245if you ban people for compliments you probably are one desu
>>114472120have you tried not being retarded? you also sound underaged
>>114472120Most big streamers deal with it by fucking some of their fans. I can help you out with that, just send me a DM.
>i am. but my bf always says im very mature for my age.Dropped.
>>114473196you will never be a woman
>>114473196>admits to being underage You need to be 18+ to post here
>>114472120>how do other women deal with this???Are you a boy? Or are you a girl?
>>114473228The best part is how they removed the "this user is underage" option
>>114473304no they didn't it's the 3rd one down
>>114473267 (Me)Oh nevermind. They're a child. They shouldn't be here or even streaming at all.>>114473196>Very mature for my ageJesus, please go talk to a responsible adult, preferably one who is not friend with your "bf".>>114473304It's still the third option.
>falling for the bait even if its the most obvious baitwell i think i will be capable of handling myself lol
>>114473386>Oops my own post made me look bad!>Better delete it and instantly tell everyone that it was actually just a bait hahaPlease seek help, unironically.
>>114472120Shut up bitch you know you love it
>>114473386Catalogue fags aren’t used of what aspies cook up on the norm
>>114473835Some of them can be la creatividad with it.
>>114472120a weak little bitch like you not gonna go far. Just quit now and don't waste your time. Try something else you're more suited for because the more popular you get on the internets the more haters and harassers you're gonna gain, it's unavoidable.
>>114472120whether you entertain me or not shant matter im already raping you with my eyes
Mel Nekomata
I'm a ligger and I've never had this problem. You're probably just a whore and the people watching can tell.
>>114472120Be yourself and try to not play a character. This will naturally filter out followers over time
if you don't want to be sexually harassed then don't be a woman on the internetin case you haven't noticed every girl is whoring out and every man is turning into a deviant. that's just how things turned out, more than ever the internet is for porn and the freaks now that everyone is sexually repressed and lonely. there's no way to stop it, you either accept that it's going to happen and tell them to fuck off or you stop being a vtuber
>>114472120>sexual harassmentGive an example of this
I look forward to you masturbating into a microphone if not on camera in 2-3 years
>>114474265Puritan nigger cope
>>114474312am I wrong? what I'm saying is that if you are a puritan the internet isn't for you lol
>>114472520My oshi times out/bans random idiots who post unkind things in her chat often. No one minds it because she has a good judge of character and always makes the right call. You easily have the power to do this too, and as long as you respect your loyal fans like they respect you while filtering out the idiots, you’ll be fine.
>>114472120stream with your boyfriend
>>114472120VTubing is prostitution. If you don’t stop soon, someone who hates you will make pornographic art of you out of spite. Everyone hates whores and is ready to punish whores, and knows that VTuners are whores by definition. But honestly, even most actresses and idols are whores. The best thing to do as a woman is get married and have beautiful healthy babies. Stop talking to strange men online, or you’ll get punished, by both men and women.
actual op here. idk why i expected 2 replies at most this was clearly gonna spark a shitshowwhoever said they were underage and had a bf wasnt me i am a flaming lesbo and merely an aspie (for real, not just /asp/ie)but, i did get insight from making this shit thread in a fit of rage. i am going to have to get used to revenge porn or whatever of a 2d rendition of myself if i wanna continue down this path. which i do.thx to everyone who jacked off to the fantasy of me getting pissy at an ojisan trying to flirt with me and was straight with me also. i get coddled by my friends a lot so a reality check is needed sometimes. o7
>>114475389addendum: ill try to get more friends to help me out and getting me out of possible waiting-to-be-groomedtubers zone asap and be more social. one of my critical flaws is that i genuinely assume men can be nice just to be nice in this community, so i give them too much leeway.this reply is basically to say im gonna look into known creeps so i know who to block/ban etc before they get the chancetho of course i cant get them alli will unfortunately have to get used to the life of not just being an unattractive autistic woman but an autistic woman that has a tiny active viewership that advertises to ojisans and other groomers that im basically free use. again, thanks everyone, i only half mean it. here, imagine im kissing the screen and maybe youll have your first kiss this way
>>114475389Mika...
>>114472520Nobody cares about silent bans, just don't rant about it. That's how you get a bad rep.>from a man twice your age was happening. Just FYI. Young people don't have money, all the whales are old creeps. So if you dislike them that much, reconsider relying on donations, merch and such.
>>114475654I liked her before I found out about her lesbian they/them partner
>>114475592>>114475592you unironically seem kind of retarded, you should let jignx, abigail and hag_corrector groom you
>>114475389you won't get revenge porn unless you either go full gfe (and then inevitably get someone to hate you over it) or have some melty over people lewding you.porn of you as a vtuber will always exist especially now that AI is thing, if you don't want to lewded/sexpested just don't encourage it, which just for the most part just means not talking about it. if you start talking about lewd stuff on stream some autist will see it as an excuse to sexpest
>>114476339@metal@bistro
>>114476339>abbyI assume he was behind this fuckup?
>Simps must be young strong and handsome or they can't donate to me
>>114475389Art isn't revenge porn. You can't get revenge porn unless you're sending nudes to your donors.
>>114476448What makes you think she won't?
>>114476464It's really easy to avoid revenge porn, but you're right.
>>114475389how tf they gonna send revenge porn unless you give them your nudes dumb foid
>>114476184Older fans also have hookups in places you would never expect. My parents always told me to treat older people nicely and it has paid off in my IRL. Are there some weird ones? Yes, but then again I think some of you are weird. Take it all one person at a time because one day you will get old too and people may think the same of you.
if you dont want money from older men why are you trying to become a vtuber when the entire industry exists to exploit older men who are lonely and/or autistic for their money?
>>114475389>revenge pornThere is a reason we tell idols AND vtubers to not be in relationships (no matter the gender). This is one of the reasons. It's not a prude move to shackle sexuality, it's a hedge against insider attacks. You can focus on making content and not have to put up with people messing up your ambition. You don't know who to trust and the last thing you want is a spurned lover attacking you. Also keep in mind the rules of the internet, things are here forever so don't go posting some compromat.
>>114472120as a lurker, if you pop off at them you will come off as a bitch and make me dislike you. Dont waste energy on them, just you ignore them.Instead focus and reinforce the kind of behavior you wanna see. If you engage with someone talking about the skit marks in your used panties, not only youll reinforce that chatter to keep being nasty but also others will start to copy him in hopes of getting your attention too.Id said i would dislike you before but an honest plea to not being crude on chat should be done, after that, silently ban people who dont get it.
>>114472120Listen here, little babygirl. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about to say.Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, babygirl. >mfw thinking of you hurting
>>114472120Ever tried implementing strike rules on your channel? That way your bans can be easily justified A 3 strikes rule is usually good enough
>Rushia avatarfagRed flag
>>114476376Yes>>114476339Hi Shania
>>114479384But they dont want to get groomed you dont get the irony layers at play
>>114479403Drop the tea, sisThat's spicy news to me
Either the model or the personality just lean towards lewd shit so you get what you deserve. I watch girls at the other end, where they would like to get lewd art and don't mind or even play along when it comes to sexual jokes, yet don't get any because they have the sex appeal of a god damn fork.
>>114475592>one of my critical flaws is that i genuinely assume men can be nice just to be nice in this communityThis reads like some secondhand Twitter brain poison. Where did you acquire this ideology? If you're prepared to frame every single positive interaction with your community as a concealed ulterior motive, then you've already decided that your fans are all groomers and there's no point in offering you practical advice. I'll do it anyway though, so here you go.Learn to ignore sexpests. Once they stop receiving interactions, they will either adjust or double down. If it's the latter situation, ban them. Learn to recognize the tells early (severe ESL, stupid screennames with no PFP, attention begging via low donos in meme currencies, etc.) and cut these subhumans out like gangrene. They deserve nothing.Gatekeep. If you're being GFE, stop doing it for free. If you have membership tiers, use them. 5 dollars is an insurmountable barricade for the worst of the worst.Finally, stop reading this fucking board if you don't have the fortitude for it. Also never, ever advertise that you read /vt/ or you will become a /here/tuber and it will get worse.I'll be totally honest with you. You don't come across as completely honest here and I'm almost positive you're concealing information. It doesn't really matter though as long as you're willing to apply any of this. I hope it works out for you, femanon. Good luck.
>>114472862Hi, Alana
>>114472245You are, the person you responded to is a sexpest of the highest order giving you a false sense of validation. The people that make sex jokes with you are being real about the nature of what you’re doing and the people you’re appealing to and not allowing you to delude yourself otherwise. If you just want friends or to foster some community, you can be yourself freely and ban people you don’t like but you’re going to be surrounded by sycophants and enablers and appeasers unless they’re genuinely trusted people you’ve known a long time and it’ll be an isolated tiny pocket of a community regardless. If you really want to do this as a sustainable hobby that funds itself and grows, you do have to toughen up, be aware of the nature of the medium you’ve chosen to engage with and make the best of it. Bonus points if you’re actually skilled and entertaining in some way, if you’re not you’re wasting your time and your audiences and drawing out the worst parasocial behaviors by default. Just make it purposeful and don’t listen to all the retards telling you what you want to hear trying to abuse your trust.
>>114472120lmao I didn't read shitRushia is a true idol and I still love her
>>114472520Stand up for yourself, holy shit.
No one is twice your age hag, you’re not being groomed, you’re Christmas cakeYou haven’t been young since you were 20 which was like 8 years ago minimumAnd if you are younger than that be grateful for all the attention and support you get. You deserve worse for even exploiting this situation to begin with, this kind of behavior historically would have you raped, killed, pimped out at best so consider yourself blessedRetarded cunts I swearWreak of fish all unaware
