HoloEN and HoloID just got merged into the main branchNijiEN outlived HoloEN AHAHAHAHAHAHA
That's not how it works, you silly billy
>>114648132HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>114648176https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/2096924168969183738
>>114648132New logo btw
>>114648258Literally Jewish servant mark
>>114648248ME ME ME
>>114648248what the FUCK is her problem
>>114648132watch steams retard
>>114648488Bro Kiara is even talking about it >>114648248
>>114648524>kiaraoh whats next, ollie and homos too? now go watch the stream. Literally nothing change, its just japanese autism trying to fix japanese autism with more japanese autism
Someone explain to me how this is a bad thing. Or a good thing. And not just a thing.
>>114648132old logo for comparison
>>114648248Why was Mori so excited for this shit? Kiara doomposting two weeks ago led up to this, huh?
>>114648258>>114648609the made sure to keep the blue there but not in the text
>>114648248MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>114648176Fpbp
>>114648658More jp resources and structure at the cost of what EN built during the wild west.
homo status?
>>114648248holy me me me, but>complaining after all the bs she pulled
>>114648456>>114648248Graduation soon to protest against this black company's decision
>>114648800who
>>114648800shutting down 9/11/26
>>114648132HoloEN being a failure CONFIRMEDEven NijiEN hasn't gotten merged into main branch yet
>>114648248Graduate you fucking cunt.
>>114648132>living branches integrated: JP, EN, ID, devis>branches not included: homos
>>114648878even if that's not the reason unfortunately that's how it comes off
>>114648784It kinda makes sense. You had four different branches, but Indonesia was practically EN but ESL while Dev_is was basically JP2. This is simply a way to consolidate everything.Yeah, the EN talents will suffer, but the ones whoa re going to prosper have already moved to Japan or speak fluent nihongo. Or is a cunny (like Kobo and Biboo)
>>114648248She was complaining that nobody would join her for an EN collab yesterday Nobody wanted to do a "final EN collab" because she's literally the only one that cares about the EN branding
>>114648248why is she like this
>>114648132
>>114648248he mental illness is getting worse
>anime>No Id or enSecond tier citizens right here
>>114648878>NijiEN hasn't gotten merged into main branch yetBecause they're going to graduate everyone at some point. Or just gut the whole branch.Also>no anime>no sololives>no concerts
>>114648976It doesn't really make sense unless JP management can deal with issues all over the globe. In reality, they just gave up.
>>114648984No matter what happens she always complains about not being the main center of everything lol
>>114648248THIS IS THE ULTIMATE /vt/ KWABOOTY MOMENT
It’s just an excuse so talents like fuwamoco can be JP streamers. Lots of people moving there makes sense now. EN audience means nothing now. The japs will take your vtubers and you will sit in the chair and watch… again
>>114648596I will say it’s more of a neutral thing, the good is that for what was ID and possibly EN will get more benefits as they are purely Hololive, eerie similar to VShojo in the past. The weird and possibly bad stuff about it, is that for now they can excuse themselves over any decision in the future that could have been pointing to the branch, instead of the company. Basically they are one front now even if the branches are now more like teams working with some members.It’s basically a smart decision for the suits because it leads to more opportunities, but one that could easily be bad for the talents in the future if used for something that they could object in the past
>>114648132Not going to lie it's kind of hilarious watching this happen when holofags have been predicting the death and merger of NijiEN for years. I assume there will be plenty of copium about how this is actually a good thing now Hololive has done it, despite the same people having spent years acting like a merger would be the ultimate defeat.
>>114649134Honestly it makes sense to give up global epansion now. Vtubing is not what it was today. COVID is over, we're facing a recession/depression soon, people don't have the money or time like they once did. The English talents of Hololive will still do well because >Hololive, but everything else is going to die or suffer. Nijisisters may rejoice now, but I sense even Niji is going to face even more graduations soon due to how unsustainable the whole thing has become. Yagoo making this move seems more of a means to keep Hololive floating and not expand more resources. Plus they got that whole gacha app going.
>>114648132>NijiEN outlivednijiEN? they already dead anon, even in anycolor report its only nijiJP
>>114648596It's typical corpo speak for "we're replacing your local management with people from different dimension." Only thing saving this is that they already had management that didn't do any useful shit.
>>114648132NIJIGAWDS WE WON
>wuffians complaing we are in holoen not holo jp>hoeh what do you mean, there never was a holo en>bau bau ビッチ
>>114649341you really need to watch streams, sister
>>114649341See >>114649365
>>114648430>>114648456>>114648808>>114648895>>114649055Why are you bootlicking the company over the talent?
>>114649341>predicting the death and merger of NijiENlol,lmao even, predicting what? nijiEN already DEAD for years, what to predict? are u retarded? lol
>>114649134>>114649244this
>>114649415love zogog
>>114649365They still haven't been merged like NijiKR, NijiID, HoloEN and HoloID were
>>114649365Nope, NijiEN's results are still listed there, unlike HoloEN and HoloID even before this merge.
>>114648132>How can we make this about NijisanjiI swear sisters hate when Holodrones drag Niji out of nowhere but they do this themselves
>>114649441>>114649453Cope
>>114649244Good thing Biboo is too stupid to learn japanese
>>114648984>collab with kiarayikes
>>114648976In a way, this is like conforming. Very Japanese like. I don't know how to feel about it. Will people like ame, shori or even liz be able to shine like myth did In the beginning when the company is becoming more sterile? Kinda feels like a start up vs rigid company.
>>114648984>collab with kiara
>>114649363Their employee to streamer ratio is horrible, maybe they should fix that first and stop spending money on things that doesn't help the people that earn the money.
>>114649445You mistake my intention. I don't think positively or negatively about Cover. I think Kiara is a fucking cunt who should kill herself. Do not confuse indifference for support faggot.
>>114648984because they know she was overreacting lmao so is ID with all their "unity" bullshit, nigga you're still keeping your job
>>114649506>copecope what? go ask anycolor yourself, its literally their own report that they dont count NijiEN ONLY NijiJP exist lol and its been years, go back to your cave again lol
>>114648596The indogs are unironically a rung below EN in the corpo hierarchy so this is functionally a demotion of the HoloEN brand, a consolidation of management (ie EN managers cleared out and replaced with Singapore ETL office workers) and a trojan horse to shove more 3rd world gens speaking ungodly languages under the EN branding. Look forward to the next Holo EN gen featuring a boy from India, a boy from India, a boy from India, a girl from Sri Lanka, and a boy from India.
>>114649244>you will sit in the chair and watchstop projecting yourself phascuck just because u got cucked by phase talent like shiina and lia everyday and pippa too recently lol
>>114649880weird fantasy
How is Coco taking the news?
>>114649992Genuinely, I doubt she thinks much about Hololive anymore. She's been out longer than she ever was in.
>>114648132KWABOTY
>>114648248THIS is what she was whining about for a month? Fucking Christ.
>>114649844>lying againBoth are counted. It makes sense that they toned down the focus on NijiEN after the Chinese wave died down. Yagoo on the other hand didn't publish the results of HoloEN and HoloID at all, while the fans tried to delude themselves into thinking the branches were successful.
Sora tummy
>>114650138>>114650177I saw that faggot.
>>114649618Why do you think they're consolidating now?
>>114648132AND THE KWABOTY GOES TO HOLOEN
>>114650138>>114650177this anon made a mistake while typing and tried to hide it
>>114650253Mwah
>>114650320Because it lets them slash management payroll.Now we know why so many ENs have been pressured to move to Japan
>>114648132Well the good news is, EOPs and SEA can stop asking if they're getting new talents since now the main focus will be the JP audience
>>114648976This is just proving jp-schizo right that there is only one way to grow in modern hololive: abandon the EN audience and go full JP pandering like Bae or Fuwamoco did.Well, I guess we can drop the schizo now, since he was right all along.
>>114649668You have no idea what they know bts though.You are just spewing shit.
what does merging branches do
>>114650464Phase is doing what hololive couldn't. Embarassing for Yagoo that he's getting mogged by fishman
>>114649403One of the better posts. Changing the name means very little. What's more important is the actual restructuring -- perms, finances, approvals, etc.
>>114650588Cucking their entire audience?
>>114648658Mori lives in Japan while Kiara lives in Austria. The merge is going to benefit her more
>>114650568It paves way to gradually phase out unprofitable English language content
>>114648132NijiEN wasn't merged because no one wants them. Everyone else is part of the main branch now.
>>114650568It's just makes them more Japanese. Those who conform lives and those that don't die.
>>114650320All they're doing is merging management, not making their operations more effective and targeted to the local audience. The fact they announced anime means they didn't learn shit.
>>114649365no they're still in there, but nijiEN's at its lowest revenue in like, 4 years lmao
>>114648248MEMEME losing power NOOOOOOOO
So the leftovers that refuse to move to Japan have to make the ultimate choice?
>>114649570>don't know how to feel about it.And thats fair. This is a very neutral thing, there is both good and bad to it. The nijisisters will obviously gloat because "le EN branch is dead", but the truth is that now there's no bullshit segregation. IRyS and Anya would no be treated like the other JP talents instead of being considered outsiders. Basically, their blue dorito is even stronger now. But what you say is also true - a talent like Ame's may not get noticed under this new restructuring. Hell, we don't even know if we'll get another English unit. I think we will, but its clear that they're focusing on talents that put Japan first, like what Fuwamoco (and Biboo) did.
>>114648248Go away already
I an not sure why they are doing this. EN will lose its concert, ID will lose its concert (assuming they were going to get another), both of them will lose their token representative in stuff like the world tour. What are they gaining from this?
>>114650588>Phase is doing what hololive couldn'thaving boyfriends and also letting them talk on stream? kek
>>114650776>What are they gaining from this?Cutting costs.
>>114650588Well good for Phase. Global fourth and largest EN. Still, only 6% of Global viewership. Like, its commendable that they actually managed to pull off what Vshojo couldn't, but they're still small potatoes. Hell, VSPO En has a better chance of eclipsing them than Phase ever becoming more relevant unless Phase actually panders to the Japanese better
>>114650814What costs? do you think that they will fire some manager?
>>114650731EN and ID and equal to JP now. Good fucking luck to anyone not in Japan.Priority will be given according to performance, and shitters who can't keep up won't be able to hide behind their branch as an excuse. They may be promised equality but that also comes with higher expectations and requirements that are impossible for them to reach. Don't expect any more EN or ID only events or concerts, now only the top holos will get concerts or events. Some pity handouts will happen for the first few months to put on a msk of unity and then anyone who couldn't keep up will be left to rot.
>>114648132if you were in en, would you move to japan to keep your vtuber career?
>>114648132It's genuinely over. holoENs have just lost all identity and history I fully understand Kiara's dooming.
>>114650879No, I don't want to be harassed by nigerians
>Hololive merged before Homostarskek
>>114650454>since now the main focus will be the JP audienceIs that the impression you got from this announcement? I thought the opposite. Merging the existing three branches together means they won't need to create a whole different branch for non-JP, non-EN and non-ID talents, so they can be recruited directly into Hololive.
>>114650859Shareholders really are a bane. Expect cuts. Stars are going out first so they're the first canary.
>>114648336seek help
>>114650879Moving to japan for one job that could be at risk at any giving point is depending of what you say, it's a decision only someone young or with a partner that can move could make. As to it is right now, possibly a lot will move, but I do think the ones that aren't, will taste the waters for a little bit and decide from it.If it stops and slows any prospect of work because the company wants mainly those who live in Japan, I think the valid answer is to quit.
>>114650952Then why are ID and Kiara having a meltdown? Shouldn't this be a good thing for them?
>>114650454>>114650920
>>114650776>what do they gainNot being in the new anime, that’s for sure
>>114650952Cmon, anon. Be for real, that was never an obstacle. Beside all the talents they get now are jp.
>>114651080>Kiara having a meltdown?u either a newfag, a tourist or both.
>>114650857Probably not the talent managers, but the other supporting staff for ID and EN will be merged and some will be let go.This will probably lead to even longer wait times for stuff like EN game permissions, because instead of an ESL salaryman it's now a JOP one trying to email devs with the help of ChatGPT.
>>114650731Or they'll still be treated exactly the same because even if the branch separation gave suits a convenient excuse, the inherent discrimination that non-JP faced has more to do with their cultural expectations and simply the biases of the managers.And then it'll hit even harder when it STILL takes 3 years to get a project finished because the 16 suits that need to approve it keeping putting it off until the next meeting because the english-speaking talents are still second-class.
>>114651080It's a good thing if you move to Japan.If you want to stay in a real country it's your loss.
>>114650653its hillarious when nijisister forget that NijiEN is dead,theres nothing to "merge" to nijiJP, anycolor straight up just memoryholed nijiEN in their report lmao
>>114650454>>114650952Their priority has always been JP, what it does mean is that they aren't looking for expansion towards the same direction as to how those branches intended to be. Tho while it might bring some opportunities, it could also lead into them prioritizing recruitment to be JP or mainly those who want to move there.
>>114651080Because Kiara and ID are bombing in growth and now they have to compete and keep up with JPs and a new group coming soon.Why would anyone in Japan bother looking at Kiara and her shit? What new blood do they expect her to gain from this? She went from top 10 in EN to top 50 in Hololive. CC and ID as a whole pull less subs than any JP or even Mekpark talent, so what kind of treatment do you expect them to get?
>>114650669they dont talk about nijiEN in their report,specially when talking to investor, its really just "nijiJP" thats it lol
>>114651218The crazy thing is that JP numbers have barely been growing lately, the market is effectively saturated so what is the point of investing more into it? At some point all you are doing is taking viewers from Pekora and putting them onto someone new, which generates more costs but not more income.
>>114651167They will still be treated second class. Those that know jp, no not even them, those that live in japan will only get a bump. ID and EN operate differently. Their culture is different.
>>114649365>even in anycolor report its only nijiJPNigger, what is this pathetic projection? It's exactly the opposite - nijiEN was (and is) always in Anycolor financial report while holoEN was never in Cover's financial reports because they don't want shareholders to see that they are below NijiEN.
I mean why do you think people like Ina and Fuwamoco won’t stream if you put a gun to their head but when it’s a JP collab they suddenly have the will to stream for the entire week? They don’t care about English viewers.
>>114648132KEKAROOOOOO
Just because this type of merger or internal restructuring never works out well, that doesn't mean it won't work out well this time. This time for sure!
>>114650177>>lying again>then lying about yagoolol,lmao even retardedsisterchama stop projecting, theres no "focus" in nijiEN u know nothing about niji at all lmao
>>114651263CC is friends with Sora. She’ll be fine
>>114649244Good thing my oshi is nimi
>>114651304>what is this pathetic projection?thats exactly what i want to say to u sister
>>114649844I'm not sure what you're talking about Anycolor financial reports give the figures for NijiEN only separately from NijiJP. Just got look on page 45 of the latest presentation and it's there. It's Cover that has always hidden how much HoloEN makes.
>>114651263Take that back cici pulls more than gaypark
>>114649406Sex with evil woman
>>114651263>Because Kiara and ID are bombing in growthWhich is TOTALLY different from all the other EN and ID shitters, which were growing SOOO much!!!
>>114651299Because they want to target against more than just JP VTubbing, similar spaces to anime, tokusatsu (for kids) and games. You know stuff like promotionals, merch, collabs, etc. that's how they get even more money. A lot of JP companies expect the same once they make it overseas, and every time they see it doesn't work, they retreat back to their shells into only doing stuff for Japan. Some never come back because they realized that they are more popular overseas.
>>114651263Reminder that HoloID had much higher viewership than phase despite Clio being botted
>>114651300>They will still be treated second classagain and again, this is hololive, not nijisanji
>>114651410Will you say the same when she's gone for 2 years?
>>114651493Wait, nijifags are claiming victory while still being behind fucking holoID and starsJP? LMAO
>>114651505you need to wake the fuck up if you think EN and especially ID arent already being treated as second class.
>>114651493Damn nijien is really down there
>>114651426No arguments? I accept your concession then.
New jp unit or en
I guess that means HoloRU is off the table...
>>114648132What's the point of this? I mean what does it really do? It just name changing or there will be manager and inside structure changes?
>>114651505You're right anon. They're 3rd class citizen. People like watame and polka are the 2nd class.
>>114651595jp, 100%
>>114651476Everyone's getting fucked by this.And imagine the data they will be gathering on thier own app instead of youtube to see who's really still worth investing into?
>>114651595Their page is already up on twitter. It's JP.
>>114651595Yeah JP and maybe a JP who can speak some eigo to throw the international fans a bone
>>114651396Grim, no wonder she had to kiss their ass in the collab
>>114651493>nijiEN losing to fucking holostars JP>phase losing to HoloIDKEK
>>114651607Same chance as Yogiri being in the new group
>>114651670>JP who can speak some eigoIn the end, we never got a Japanese ESL member in EN, like Meloco and Kotoka.
>>114651493>>114651545>>114651564>>114651704>Caring about CCVIf CCV matter, HoloEN wouldn't have been merged This whole debacle has been otherwise
>>114651493Phase is a small operation though. They don't have a million Nigerians staff they have to pay. Not to mention NA, so no copywrite attorneys writing permissions 24/7.
so this is why Mori was upset at Serendipity and said it might be the last EN concert. She knew.Gura leaving was such a devastating blow it killed the branch
>>114651794>>114651800Cope all you want. They still can't get anywhere near HoloID views.
>>114649880>a girl from Sri Lankais she cute
>>114651493>phase started out in 2021 as a literal who mid 2view rag time misfits group who nobody gave 6 months to live>5-years late held their own convention in America and have outlived holoENshit is wild
>>114651811No more EN ConcertInstead there will be HoloFesf US next year
>>114651595Merging branch means EN will never get in nowJustice was the last ever HoloEN group, all future gens will be JP only
>>114648132LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>114651811Gura killed EN by leaving
>>114651794It merged because of the global economy you RETARD. Hell, Riku's company is only afloat because he operates on dirt cheap.Its why Nijisanji will never get their own app or anime
>>114649365No it's still there.It's how we make fun of it when any financial report drops
>>114651860>go from having your own big concert to now have to share it with JP and IDEN members have to feel like failures. Your branch imploded and got merged. What an indignity to suffer
>>114651794It's not just ccv, nijiEN earns less than 1/4 what NA fans(overwhelming majority HoloEN fans) pay for Hololive. There quite literally is no competition.
>>114651483Almost happened to Nintendo too.
>>114651619There probably are structural changes but that's not really something they're going to detail in a public announcement. At best there may be something in the next financial report about it or might simply be buried in one offhand line about reducing overhead.Frankly, I think it is unlikely that this will be result in any positive changes for non-JP talents. It may not be negative (except optimistic talents having their hopes dashed after two years of still seeing no improvements) but things will probably just be the same.
>>114648132Mori got so mad that she deleted Hololive from her account
>>114648132Why are people surprised?Hololive had VERY rough few fiscal quarters and branches outside of Japan are too expensive to manage for amount of cash they make.>>114648800Good question, now when all branches are consolidated into one, the assumption is that Holostars EN will get the same treatment as Holostars JP, aka. being sent to the boredom room till they willingly graduate.>>114649341To be frank, NijiEN's situation is infinitively much worse. We know that they are getting no funds at all and exist only as a zombie branch. It's fate worse than death.VShojo's dead, NijiEN exist as a rotting corpse, HoloEN got merged into main branch... hilariously, Fishman won by doing nothing? Selling coffee and being harassed by British schizo girl that is not even part of Phase Connect is actual key to success?
>>114648132So now we need to travel to Japan for concerts? China should nuke that island, they lost the plot
>>114652066Korone did too. I think it might be management’s doing preparing to put something else there.
>>114648248Holy Kiara schizo spamming
>>114652154I would let Shiori bite my dick off.
>>114651884Even current talent will be more JP now. Say goodbye to fwmc. This is what they wanted all along. HololiveEN have joined cuck connect when it comes to cucking their fans
All the shit posters ridiculing HoloEN where right all along. Once again numberfags are in shambles not being able to call out and predict future events like Vshojo's downfall. Shit posters actually won. Numbers are a failed general.
>>114651860You won’t get anything except virtual tickets and you will rike it
>>114652153>>114652066Duo to management disagreement...
>>114651263Such a JP bootlicker. Did Kiara flesh concert really give you an aneurysm?
>>114651595This whole thing just reminds me of unnecessary UI changes, logo renewals and other things that are just done for the sake of doing something, even if the result is worse.
>>114651619It's a financial consolidation. Excess support staff are laid off and everything is combined into one budget led by 1 team following one set of performance metrics.In practice it almost certainly means that all non-japanese staff are gone and the ENs and IDs are being cast adrift. After the ripples that previous EN graduations caused, they know to not just close the branch and give everyone the boot, so instead the talents are left to coast until they attrition their way out one by one. Or follow the FWMC route and reinvent themselves as HoloJP.The reason they made a whole song and dance of this is that they need to spin to soften the blow of what is essentially admitting their entire international market push has failed and they need to withdraw to their core model poorer and less efficient than when they started. It's hard to articulate why this is bad to people that don't understand finance but basically there's no reason whatsoever to be optimistic about Cover or its corporate value for the next 3-5 years.As for your Oshi, well it should now be clear why so many of them have barely been streaming this year.
>>114652258Japan really likes their logos and symbolism
>>114652225The "pebble" schizo in numbers never gave a shit about EN.
>>114652225numberfags routinely said vshojo was going down the shitter
>we're gonna merge the branches>you have 3 years to do your jp reps before the 10th anniversary>sign the new contract or leaveit could be a good rrat back then
>>114648984Extra salt in the wound was that all 9 members of HoloID got together to have a game collab together just before the announcement.
>>114652364To be honest, I should’ve been doing my reps
I’m anything but a Kiara defender but for once she is right. This is complete bullshit. Reminder Suisei has her own fucking personal agency
so that's it? HoloEn is over? Just like that?
>>114652301>essentially admitting their entire international market push has failedExcept that's what anycolor stated in their reports, Cover has been constantly renewing their push for more overseas expansion this entire year. 25% of their revenue is from non-Japanese sources, there is zero chance they kill off that income unless they want to go under.
HoloEN/ID getting the same treatment the failures at Niji ID/KR got is crazy>>114652093and yet Niji EN's debuted members more recently than HoloEN has
>>114651619The point is that Holo wants to focus on the JP market. They want to push our EN fans.Phase stay winning
>>114652301Wait, I thought international revenue are good in hololive. I doubt just japan make more revenue than whole worldIf they will kill EN and ID than I doubt people will suddenly go back to JP. They will simply stop supporting hololive.
>>114651945More like EN fans wants to attend holofest without travelling to Japan
Consolidation is never ever a good thing or a sign of health.
>>114652364This literally was the rrat. When we had the graduation marathon that bisected EN the first thing people noticed is that the timing suspiciously coincided to the EN contract renewal period, that the actual graduations were announced suddenly with short notice before the final stream, and that there had been a clear bias towards the ENs living in Japan and the bilignual ENs. /vt/ was awash with "become jp, sign the contract or quit" and such.
>>112672226yea>>112672272lol
Keep Seething
>>114648176BTFO by the chicken. How mogged can you be lmao
>>114651619Japan is sinking financially while the rest of the world looks like its on the brink of a global depression. Hololive looking inward and reducing their spending is the only logical thing to do
>>114649406Posted a stinking corpse
>>114652364We were already shit posting all the cancerous baubaus that EN were abandoned for JP cash. We are still laughing at them.
Eh, I only cared about hololive for the EN branch, but if they're just gonna slide everyone towards JP centered content I think I might finally have a reason to move on.
>>114652464That's what makes this decision so confusing. According to Cover's own financial reports, the EN branch was doing well and bringing in a lot of revenue. Yet we already knew from ENs doomposting about Serendipity that the branch's financials were on the chopping block. Mori herself pushed for more concert attendance by suggesting it might be the last EN concert ever if they didn't do miraculously well.And by any reasonable metric, Serendipity did well. Yet this cloud of negativity has hung over EN since then, the branch is barely streaming, some girls are racing to move to Japan and there's a fresh vaguequeen doompost from one Holo or another to plaster on the catalogue every week. Clearly there's some misalignment between the raw data shown in Cover's earnings reports and the reality of the situation facing the company. Because what we're confronted with here is that the EN branch is dead and now the ENs just exist within the periphery of the jp's management framework.
>>114651155There will no longer be en perms
>>114649277The amount of red tape and perms will be worst now that everything is technically going through a JP portal and having to meet that standard. Also everyone will have to deal with mangers and overseas with strong JP favoritism and maybe closet xenophobia. Ex: Holo ID's mangers were pretty chill with ID and lax with some of the standards, that's gone. Also not living in japan will give the ultimate exclusion. Mumei already pointed out how members not living in Japan were left out a lot before she left. Trying to get housing as a non-japanese person is extremely hard.
>>114652654I should be thankful for the ENs tanking their streaming hours this year since it's already essentially weened me off of hololive. This might be the time to say goodbye.I see that /hlgg/ finally ceased to exist too. Writing's on the wall.
>>114649244Plausible. It seems to me (a completely uninformed individual) that the problem is that HoloEN was losing its identity (or at least had a rift in it). Think about HoloID - the distinguishing factor isn't really that they speak Indonesian, but rather that they ARE Indonesian. HoloJP could be similarly distinguished by being people who are Japanese (even if not natively). But HoloEN can only be distinguished by speaking English. However, since HoloID also speaks English, merely speaking English is not sufficient. Therefore you need another criteria. I see two that you could choose:1) Speaks English and is not Japanese or Indonesian2) Speaks almost exclusively English on streamThe problem is that the more Japanese ENs barely meet either criteria, if at all. It makes no (business) sense to split EN into two branches, and moving he JP-adjacent ones into JP doesn't seem desirable either. Therefore, they had to dissolve the distinctions entirely.
Give me stright answer. Will Hololive die in next 2 years?
>>114652849No, Holodori just made more money for them than their last quarter did.
>>114652441Another sex pest, chain smoker and some VRC erp whore? And they obviously will leave the moment they figure out that they work for free?Cover at least has shame to retract their EN branch.
>>114652707>According to Cover's own financial reports, the EN branch was doing well and bringing in a lot of revenue.Cover's financial reports have never listed EN revenue. Only ever combined Hololive revenue.
>>114652849it won't die in general but it might die as you know it (pivot away from streaming into more game/gacha stuff)
>>114652849the only question is if they're gonna get more oversea fans in the future, the rest is not gonna change at all
so when are the branch mergers happening? what date?
>>114652434what does this image even mean? why is an indie that reincarnated into holo and is still part of holo be celebrating the death of holo alongside phasenigs and nijisisters?
>>114651562You say that, but I have feeling things are going to be very different for EN talents like IRyS in the coming months. It really pays to be a very fluent talent and no longer have a retard like Omega in the company.
>>114652849Probably not. But they will bleed off international talent or make them switch focus to JP audience.
>>114652969Already did it, anon. It's just a process in some websites.
The homos are definitely today’s biggest loser but I’m still not happy about this. I’m going to watch some indies and phase for a bit while I wait for the status quo to return.
>>114652849No.Are (you) a retard for asking this? Yes, you are a retard.
>>114651562>you need to wake the fuck upno YOU need to stop projecting retardedanonchama
>>114652817Finally, an actual intelligent take thats not nijisister retardation or phasecuck idiocy. Its all rebranding. Yagoo knows he has an international audience and he won't give up on it.
>>114653042The homos managed to keep their branch though. They didn't need a merge with JP to dilute the troubles.
>>114650510They know bts? Can they get me Jung Kook's autograph?
>>114652441>and yet Niji EN's debuted members more recently than HoloEN hasso does any "BLACK COMPANY" out there anon, thats why u got literal sexpest and entire bully clique in nijisanji as their organ, debuting is easy, if u want to debut bunch of piece of shit like niji.
>>114652447>Phase stay winning>phase who officially throw their talent under the bus and called her racistlol,lmao even
>>114652849Define death.They not gonna just disappear overnight, but they financial situation is very rough and the push from investors to do something is huge, probably.We may see YAGOO and his directors getting on the chopping block and replaced with some clueless budget committee that will spin Hololive into very retarded direction for the sake of growth. After that who fucking knows - they may start getting sold from one pair of hands to another just as an asset till some Taliban oil will get his hands on it and we will get AI chatbots claiming to be Fuwamoco and shilling online gambling.
>>114653092>Yagoo knows he has an international audience and he won't give up on it.So he’s gonna make the JP girls do English/any other language streamsYeah, I thought so.
Holostars are fucking abandoned and floating away in space into the abyss right now. They should have left when they had the chance. Now I actually feel sorry for them.
>>114652301>essentially admitting their entire international market push has failed>holo literally goes international with no region base nameholo now is more international than before retardedanonchama,showing that their international market is succesful they can "sell" any holo member from any branch.
Is it better to have EN'd and lost, or to have never EN'd at all?
>>114653177>the push from investors to do something is hugeThere's no evidence this was motivated by investors. If anything some of the talents' comments about this make it seem like it was talents that pushed for this in hopes of better treatment(perms, concerts, etc.).
>>114651624>watamelol, lmao even, when u outing urself that u know nothing
>>114653055I think you didn't get it. Dying means losing identity and fun. I know they won't go bankrupt. Look at Ubisoft. It died 15+ years ago but didn't go bankrupt.>>114653177I mean if they will slowly become Ubisoft of Vtubing.
>>114653092I actually wonder what goes through someone mind when they see a bad news from something they like and work it overtime to cope it into 'it is totally good acshually'.
>>114651794>If CCV matter, HoloEN wouldn't have been merged>Acting like merged is a BAD THINGlol,lmao even, using ur DUMB logic anon, then they all even worse now if their ccv is lower than holo lol
>>114648132>Gura knew all alongFuck.
>>114651493now anon, why u post this, now they cant cope with the whole "holo is dead" anymore lmao
>>114651568>No arguments?argument for who? retarded nijisister projecting? lol
>>114652654It will be Hologra on a larger scale: 90 percent JP focus with 10 percent EN and ID (the ones who moved to Japan of course)
>>114653367what happened to this statue after she graduated?
>>114651884grim
>>114653471they still have it from a recent pic I think
>>114652849>Will Hololive die in next 2 years?holy newfag, u are LATE, the whole holo die has been out since 2020, so good luck with that lmao
>>114653288>some of the talents' comments about this make it seem like it was talents that pushed for this in hopes of better treatment(perms, concerts, etc.).
>>114651884>Merging branch means EN will never get in now>more like TRASH EN INDIE will never get inFTFY anon and yes we holofans dont want those trasn en indie.
>>114651619when everything is down, cutting cost, downsize and merge are the first thing a company would do
>>114653506Someone didn't watch the premiere and hear Kobo's thoughts.
>>114653506FWMC sure as hell aren’t. They are over the moon and sucking JP off trying to get them to oshi them already. They have been waiting for this day. The biggest traitors of all time. I knew long ago and that’s why I ditched them. Happy to see I was right. Literally the Trojan whores, I mean horse
>>114653506>>114653627That's because Kobo lives in Japan, just like Nerissa.In fact, only the girls living in Japan had good things to say about this, so I guess we all know where this is going.
>>114653627>Koboi literally forgot she existed. haven't seen a post about her in like a year.
Fuwamoco have already moved on from HoloEN >>114653474
>>114653651who did you oshihen to
>>114648132Remind me what your organs' CCV is typically at these days, sister. There are small indies with faster chats kek
>>114653734Ollie because she collabs with the boys
>>114649341>all the holotroon copings this hardKEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>114649341I have to agree. All the constant shit posting they have done feeling superior all this time. Only for their own logic to slap them in the face is very amusing.
>>114653367who?
>>114653734Nani
>>114649341The only reason this is being considered bad is because niji's mergers did kill off branches(ignoring when anycolor would just terminated them entirely, over 100 vtubers by the way). niji being absolute dogshit is what's ruining any discussion about this.
>>114653651>>114653721Nice to know I'm not the only one who saw what the Teletubbies were always up to. Every time you brought it up /here/ a bunch of faggot Ruffkeks would get their panties in a twist and bomabard you with "FWMC don't pander to JP, retard"Who's the retard now, huh?
>>114648132Lmao
>>114653972literally who?
Finally, hololive goes back to being a Japanese company that delivers quality content. Eop need not apply
A couple of years ago I posted that HoloEN would get merged before NijiEN but I can't find the post to screencap so I look like a cool predictor guy
>>114653692It’s almost like it’s the reason they moved there. But the real question is why? How can you stream to people in your own time zone from the other side of the world? Oh! They don’t care and want everyone for JP. Every single slimy cunt that moved there is a traitor
>>114649341Here let me help you comprehend, if this was your black company sis, Riku would literally be laying off their livers on the same stream.
Oh, so that's the management disagreement holos have been graduating over.
>>114654025Just a cool chick that will happily call retards retards and wants the child killer to get the rope
so which ens are gonna betray the en fans other than fwmc?
>>114654146sounds like the typical indie grifter, enjoy your slop
>>114653985>The only reason this is being considered badAny corpo employee will tell you that mergers like this are bullshit and fix nothing unless the top management also gets replaced. This is the case of top management giving up on thinking outside of their safe zone in the most demoralizing style possible.
>>114652778I wonder how many anons have worked in this kind of company. I have to coordinate things with people in India, and it's a pain in the ass to exchange messages across a 12 hour timezone difference or compete for meeting times in the brief overlap. You're always going to focus on who's messaging you in the present, and the language divide will only make it worse.The parallels to the holoEN-holoJP telephone game stream hasn't reached Cover management, apparently.
Why do cumskins always get so angry when you show them something cute and funny
>>114654204>I wonder how many anons have worked in this kind of company.I did, it's fucking hell.
>>114651595Yeah but... I can't understand Japanese.
>>114654203But this isn't a merger in the same way a typical business merger is.
>>114651595https://x.com/ASOBIMAWARITAI
>>114654198Enjoy getting cucked as your girls suck JP cock
>>114654246Thanks for reminding me we needed to take this hobby back from the normies and browns
>>114654303That's what they want you to think. The girls obviously think otherwise.
>>114648248She's gonna strangle her cats and try to kill herself, watch out.
>>114654303This is a restructuring, not a merger.
>>114654188IRyS, but she kinda did it already since her first 3D
>>114654188Everyone who moved there. That’s already been established
>>114654335enjoy your "based" indie who definitely didn't get her opinions from her ex lmao, mindbroken /vt/ cuck
>>114654349Hololive is doing a good job of purging white faggots from their ranks, soon everything will return to grorious nipponese tastes.
>>114654349you people cant even step outside in the summer without getting sun burns
if you don't move to Japan you should get fired honestly
>>114654360Most of the girls are positive about this, only kiara and ollie are malding
It's an accounting trick to avoid fully disclosing the unprofitable divisions. Yes they're profitable as a whole, but it's no secret that EN and ID drag them down. So you reorganize the internals, delete the artificial boundaries, and bam, no red marks for investors. Maybe fire some duplicative internal positions to save more money.
>>114654482>>114654401
>>114654468No need to fire, they're leaving on their own.
>>114649341I felt kind of bad to be honest but holofags seem to think it's a good thing
>>114654389CC....
>>114654482half of EN is already in Japan they're eating good
>>114654438Your family’s legacy is a handful of farm animals
why does erb just emotes
>>114654524she's one leg out the door anyway
>>114654505>it's no secret that EN and ID drag them downsee >>114652438
>>114654482Anon... It's clear that people who didn't move to Japan like it less than the other. Their international operations are getting cut and merged under JP staff.
>>114654547you use mayo as shampoo and dont even wash your asses
qrd
>>114654511
>>114654415Someone’s mad. What is it that gets you? Hololive cucking their fans? There are only 2 genders? Or child killers should get the rope?
>>114654668>I want to hope we won't be buttfucked>Or that our fans will be buttfucked
smart members are jumping ship
>>114654668JP movers being traitors continues to hold up
>>114654613>Merge is a veil for cutting cost and staff>thinks that said loss of staff will let them get game perms faster
>>114654668who
>>114653471>>114653487Such a cool statue too.
>>114654703>Someone’s madt. the fag who malded at dog women and decided to stan an indie that regurgitates her past boyfriend's opinions at him>schizo babbleyaaawn
>>114654668>I will continue to work towards my goals and dreams within hololivesponsored stream once a month?
>>114654814Get a load of this cunt that supports child murder. Must be female. And yes the dogs are traitorous whores
>>114654741Nerissa doing everything except her Official 1 Million milestone stream
>>114654741Put another JP mover down as traitor. The pattern is set now
So, uh, WHO did these "traitors" betray again?
>>114654741>>114654935Guess I’ll die>>114655009Reading comprehension…
Pweassseee Japanese, pweassseee look at us!
>>114654935As an ex-Jailbird, it's gotten to a point where I kind of doubt I'll ever feel anything that's not disappointment towards her
>>114654893holy schizo meltbrown>>114655009they made third worlders upset as seen from the /pol/ posting ITT
>>114649032SOVL vs. SOVLLESS
>>114655009grifters who applied to play video games until they saved up to get married
>>114649363this is quite true
>>114652849Just talents outside of Japan, not that management actually cares evidently kek
>>114655281saplings...
>>114655675mooner...
>>114655675Damn, you can really feel the "branch got closed and snubbed for an anime appearance" vibe
When are we going to see JP talents doing what EN talents are doing, posting in English talking about how they exist and should be seen by EN fans? It's a merger of the branches, right? All equal?
>>114648132This is good, sincerely. For both EN and ID.It's a smarter marketing strategy as the EN/ID brands are only as strong as their designated viewing areas, which is considerably smaller than the JP base. I look at the EN members who have made the journey to JP, and watched their integration into the greater Holosphere. It was beneficial for everyone involved. It is clear that there is a gap between the cultures of the branches, and frankly only one of those cultures is sustainable.We'll still get concerts and new members, but the pool is such that they'd be taking needless risk for little to no reward with entire new gens like the old days. EN/ID's get lots of new eyeballs and views early on, but many have failed to retain their larger audience for various reasons. Quality over quantity will be the credo going forward, and this is the right call. Also, EN/ID are beloved by hardcore and casual fans alike, and the girls will not suffer any tangible setbacks as a result of this, if anything they may have dodged a bullet. OP jokes about NijiEN "outliving" HoloEN but we see what is happening there, and that is not life. That is the Weekend at Bernie's version of success. Think of this as Smackdown and Raw unifying to become the WWE again. Factions are fine, and can be fun, but when the audience is overwhelmingly watching Raw it doesn't make sense to invest in more Smackdown talent. We'll dissolve the branches and allow growth in a fertile environment instead. And most importantly, we'll only add new seeds when there is enough space and resources to do so, or it makes some sort of financial or logical sense, rather than just keeping up with tradition.
>>114648132HoloEarth status?
>>114648132Didn't know there were Nijisisters still around, I thought they all choked to death because of low viewership
Looking forward to our new girls joining the superior timeslot
>>114656055I'd like to add one more thought I forgot to mention. Even the greatest vtubers ever, whomever you'd put on the Mt/ Rushmore of vtubing, they all needed time to marinate and find their footing, both with their act and their audience. Even some of the most recent hires have caught on and are finding their angle. Everyone needs some sort of unique canon for lack of a better word. Something on stream, or a catchphrase, something for the viewer to sink their teeth into. There are girls that have been here for years that have not found their niche, but they can, and will if they stick with it and have an understanding of what that entails. Cover if you're reading this, I'm for hire. Though I'd have to be paid under the table, so I'll accept any Miko merch I don't already have as compensation.
what does this mean for the boys
>>114656412You're gonna get a lot of studio and main channel kino. Probably more cross "branch" collabs as well too. The EN/IDs are great, and JP accepted all of them when they arrived. This will only grow everyone.
>>114656526Yagoo here I like your style kid welcome aboard
Ahaha retards I WARNED you they were going after your badly performing branch (whore) after they came after Holostars but you didn't listen.
My rrat is that this was Fuwamoco's suggestion.
>>114656043>muh equalityThen everyone should learn indonesian too right?It doesn't work like that.Stop being a westoid and understand that this is a japanese company. If someone wants to speak english, they will do it, like Hachama did.
>>114653042Biggest Losers: HomoJP > HoloID > HoloEN > HomoEN
>>114656537If I were them I'd be looking for the offramp. I can't picture Stars still existing by the end of next year. JP had their funding pulled and Cover is basically waiting for them to quit instead of tanking the PR hit of mass terminations. And EN will be in a similar situation once Cover cuts its overseas admin staff. There is nothing left for them to merge into, they're just screwed.
>this entire year holokeks have been coping that a merge wasn’t gonna happen xD
>>114656526Can you summarize your purple prose?
>>114656055This will also make it easier for EN members to graduate without them "shrinking" the branch. Now it's one big branch so the Ens who aren't willing to move to Japan can just leave without affecting the size of the En branch because there is no more En branch it's just one big group. It actually helps those who want to leave and pursue other ventures and it puts no strain on the branch they're leaving from
>>114657425if 5 sentences is "purple prose" i'd suggest the audiobook version in the future
>>114657425This is good news for everyone involved that wishes to succeed and not goldbrick their way to unemployment.
