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>>114650569They really didn't advertise this too well
Vivi is hololive now
This one
>>114650627>>114650627>>114650627>>114650627>>114650627
With HoloEN gone guess who the biggest EN corpo in the world is now KEEEEK
thoughts?
>There will never be another Hololive English speaking talentHow do you feel about this, /#/?
Where is Haachama?
>>114650091No, it will have content from all branches, but in Indonesian.I'm guessing it will feature ID branch more prominently though. Same with other accounts.Previous : Nothing from other branchesNow : Occasional translated stuff from other branches.
https://youtu.be/BwLyXeygeK8https://youtu.be/BwLyXeygeK8https://youtu.be/BwLyXeygeK8anime teaser is up
Does ANYONE know what Korone is dooming about in her Members stream?
>>114650621When was the last time Nijisanji debuted Indian, Korean or Indonesian speaking vtubers after the merge?
>>114650607>Either you put only hololive or you put nothing at allWeird way to go about it
I DON'T WANT TO BE JAPANESE
why is sora leeching the shit announcement
FUWAMOCO completed the 3 year HoloEN tutorial and finally made it into Hololive
>>114650674>Nijisanji
>>114650601That would be a wonderful news, but that won't happen unfortunately.
>>114650659She now looks like Lovelive characterMaybe this is a preparation for Hololive Anime
Gigi Murin the Last of EN: Part 2
>>114650668>5 days agoalso some of this footage is recycled from the holoearth trailer
>Kills the EN branch >gives a JP member a new look>announces an anime (JP members only)Did we rike it?
ok but seriously was the merger the 'disagreements with company direction' that all the graduates had
>>114650661happy that there won't be any more shitters eating up the resources for new gens
what about the mekkers tho?
>>114650667So it's like before the merge?
>>114650661based
>>114650682shiori and gg too tho
>>114650661Indifferent desu
>>114650659An even more idol vibe than before
>Yagoo makes some changes thinking it will keep members around>Kiara and Reine soft-confirming they are graduating due to the changes
>>114650659Cute outfit and larger boobs, but soulless face.
>>114650706Yes. Death to EN and ID and Homostars.
>another box event in Septembercan they stop, people want to watch individual streams
does this mean we can banish all of hololive to /jp/
True
>>114650601No, this is the cope phase. After a year, two, three, maybe it's gonna settle in that this merger is their way to put the side branches into the banishment room so they quit and Cover can just be JP hololive again and leave the global market for good and stick to only the Japanese one. /#/'s is full of VERY slow people but hopefully they catch on. Those that understand japanese companies and how they operate already saw this merger for what it really was.
Asobi mawaritai is such a cunny name, I hope we get 4 cunnies
So dev_is, ID (until they utter more of their awful tongue), and Fuwamoco are the won bigly, and everyone else either stays the same or lost a little
>>114650189Kiara knows this means more focus towards talents living in Japan or willing to travel to & from there frequently.
>saying this while posting an EN picturehow much is she secretly seething?
>>114650569
>>114650668Kiara confirmed for the Anime
>>114650650If that were true they would have just graduated them instead
>>114650661good, new english talents just keep bringing more trannies into the hobby
>>114650706BASED. He is single handedly avenging JP's WW2 loss
HoloJP fags, we lost, the sidebranch whores WON
>>114650573Never heard of that
>>114650726Oh no not Kiara and Reine!Anyway...
>>114650706Also still keeping stars
>>114650661are you sure about that?
>>114650662Haachama is EN, EN was not included
>>114650659>good hair physics and very minimal clipping How they finally manage to get it right?
Safe to say wasting an entire EN gen on appealing to EU was a fucking mistake. It's good to see Cover is course correcting to focusing on the relevant parts of the globe
>>114650659Close enough
>>114650241AIEEEEEEEE! ARE WE …. THE CHOSEN!?
>>114650661Mori did seem to imply this on twitter
There better be a Pekomiko episode in the anime if they want ratings.
Total Sidebranch Death
>>114650741You know flow glow and Justice debuted in the same year right?
>>114650659it's literally anime now
>>114650771they bought another 5090
>>114650661Promise flopped so bad they killed HoloEN
Hololive won
>>114650706Yes. EN vtuber is dead.
>>114650739yeah unfortunately everyone just assume is the same shit as niji
FWMC will no longer feel forced to stream in English, how do you feel about it Ruffians?
>>114650754nobody cares kys
ID is crying about not being in the anime
>>114650203they don't watch. The meltdown and reddit updoot bots will come later, as always. Remember how they were shocked of what Astel said in a clip that had been months old
>>114650652Technically "hololive" is an EN branch. And an ID branch. And a JP branch. Technically-er it's every branch in the world simultaneously.
>FWMC won>ID won>EN especially Kiara lost HARD
https://x.com/odeholo/status/2096932270485782652>Fubumio MC>all gokishit guestingwhat the fuck, Cover are retarded and trying to sink the anime before it even airs
>>114650805The end of advent
https://x.com/octavio_holo/status/2096938039675371761
>>114650706It is unironically over for EN and ID in the future
>>114650808PHASEETHE
>>114650706>>114650661So sad...
>specifically mention females
>>114650768When did they discuss them in the presentation?
>>114650741>leave the global marketIf they want to lose 25% of their revenue and immediately implode, sure.
>>114650772>appealing to EUWhen did that happen? Half of all Justice streams are at NA hours and the rest are at JP hours
>>114650816>ID wonHoly copeAt least on EN you have girls like Mori trying to smile through the tearsFucking no one in ID is pretending this is good news
>>114650707Maybe EN, but I don't see why say Aqua would be bothered by this
>>114650748But she's a piece of fucking shit anyway so of course she is. This is the same retard that finds it too bothersome to participate in basic collabs because she doesn't wanna do things outside of the comfort zone in her own timezone so fuck what she feels. She can still be a solo-talent because the "EN" part of her never mattered, she doesn't collab and when she does it's with a fucking indie or outsider anyway so why does she pretend to give a fuck.
Yeah this remodel is for HoloAnime
>>114650659She looks like an uma model minus the ears... Or an im@s model of the highest quality.
>>114650706JP? what JP lmao there is just hololive
>>114650787Unfortunately for you, there's no more main branch either
>>114650659
>>114650706Very rike Yagoo-san suki
>>114650833Oh brother this leech stinks
>>114650768In the ghetto, LMAO. I can only imagine how much the EN homos begged not to be put in the same sinking ship as the alters dead JP homos
at least we now get to see who the real grim runts are of not each branch but rather the entire company with it all homogenized
>>114650805Fuck man, nearly all of them really are about to abandon english streams
>There will never be another EN speaking talent>FWMC and IRyS will now only speak JP>Most other ENs will speak JP more or learn it seriously At-atleast the IDs will not be debuted now… r-right guys?
>>114650833>trying to leech the announcementsYOU LOST HOMO
>>114650833>holostars still get to be EN>get the new tech for free tooya I'm thinking the boys won
Hololive is merged>HoloEN Concert in USOkay>HoloFes in USFUCK YEAH!!!!
>>114650706>western whores no morebest day ever
>>114650837>female groupsOOF homos this is not looking good
>>114650831Man i love you gokischizo. Never change.
>EN and ID fans are mad alreadyvalid anger, Cover needs to be shot for this bullshit
>walks into the threadDon't mind me, just fulfilling my rights of a NIJIGOD WINNER>pisses into holonigger losers' throatsAahhhhhh, that's better>leaves the thread
>>114650899>HoloFes in USyou wish
Ok so lets say hypothetically these girls coming soon speak both Japanese and English perfectly. Going forward, what incentive does a new talent trying to grow and make her dreams come true have to court English speaking viewers? You would be actively debuffing yourself by trying to do anything other than gathering as many loyal JP viewers as you can. The idea that any new IRyS or FWMCs that debut will just be new meat for the JP viewers is not a pleasant thought
>>114650601it's worse than that anon this also means the "en branch" can't shrink anymore because it's just one big branch! So chuubas in any of the 3 former branches can simply leave (or be downsized) without risk of shrinking the talent pool
>>114650887how are those english classes going, can you ask for a refund?
>>114650659She looks more mature which is sex
>>114650887>>There will never be another EN speaking talentCorrect>>FWMC and IRyS will now only speak JPFWMC, maybe (unlikely), IRyS no>>Most other ENs will speak JP more or learn it seriouslyNah. Though I'm curious if we're getting any graduations off of this.
>>114650899Simultaneous concerts on multiple locations
>what is the theme of the new unit?
>>114650908>tranny flag pfpthe merger is to get rid of these
>>114650908isn't that one of the reasons they're merging? too many identities?
>>ID wonYou mean>Kaela won>Zeta won>Anya won>Kobo won>OLLIE LOST>IOFI LOST>RISU LOST>MOONA LOST>>EN especially Kiara lost HARDyou mean>FUWAMOCO WON>MORI WON>BIBOO WON>NERISSA WON>SHIORI WON>INA WON>KIARA LOST>ERB LOST
I look forward to Chinese and Korean streams from Gigi and Kronii now that they're finally free from Holo EN
take solace at the fact that we avoided a future where homos are profitable enough to get merged with Hololive proper. imagine if that actually happened!
>>114650934Cunny i hope
Does anyone have that one old screenshot of Sora, from one of the early streams, going "Oh there are 100 people watching!" or something like that?
ERNOUL IS SEETHING AHAHAHAHAEU LOSTEN LOST
you know, specifically mentioning female only implies there could be new male only gen too
>>114650833reminder
>>114650908>EN, ID and JP all have very distinct identitiesYes that is exactly the problem, EN and ID drifted away from what Hololive is supposed to be
>>114650943>ERB LOSTbut why tho?
>>114650805Better start learning Japanese Ruffian
>>114650908>faggot who still virtuesignalposts about fucking sana
>>114650662This is gonna be garbage, Hololive doesn’t have a plot.
>>114650939>>114650942No one wants the "JP" identity, holoJP is an entirely different parasocial culture
>>114650396this tech needed to be paired up with holoCloud and holoAI
>5% English chat ratio requirement for the cripple tallyTallyanon knew this!
>/#/ spent years waiting for a new generation of EN speaking talent that will never comeToday feels a bit grim
Serendipity was such a FLOP that it killed Hololive ENGLISH HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA!
>>114650943Why ERB lost?
they said the anima was in production for 5 years right? why would chammers not be in it then? she was relatively normal and included in everything back then
>>114650908reminder those are the same retards that wanted to merge the homos with the holos
>>114650661Are we back to pre 2020?
>>114650833>demoYeah they aint getting the full version
>>114650707most likely yeah, i definitely see Ame and Fauna being mad at this change because "ENs" identity even tho you could count with one hand how many stuff EN has done as a group in the last 2 years
>do nothing>winheres trick question, is it a. nijien or b. Phase ConnectIMPOSSIBLE question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwLyXeygeK8Holo Asobi member
Kiara is easily the biggest dramafag in en
The group merging is a good thing and will open up more opportunities for the girls. Universal perms for example. People are just afraid of change and don't take a second to think about anything before spouting their shitty opinions on twitter.
>>114650978dubais are kill
>>114650739>Malaysian Tranny Commie who is obsessed with US politicsGood riddance
PHASE IS THE BIGGEST EN CORPO NOW LMAO
>>114650964>>114650978She can't call homos>HololiveOr>HoloproAnymore
going to be awkward now everyone has to change their little intro speeches
>>114650999EN? What is EN?
>last new unit since 2024isnt this huge news? JP7?
>>114650971hes right though. The sidebreanch whores dont feel like holoJP at all
Holoantis is desperate especially the latinx group lel
HoloKR... never... yaggy.. why?..
>outlasted HoloEN
>>114650917That's the point. EN5 was never going to happen so to save face while debuting more JP's they merged them all together. This is all the English we're ever going to get, and it'll shrink as the former EN girls just start speaking Japanese too
>>114651000There will never be new English speaking talent. Don't try to spin that as a positive.
>>114650908En culture is shiori collabing with jurardId culture is ollie collabing with jurard
>>114650837HomoEN aren't such a big failure as HoloEN so they won't be merged and will be allowed to keep their identities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KxkqV1oeLI
>>114650994
>>114650971The JP identity is that they actually have to work.
>>114650971>I absolutely do not care for JPthis is why they are merging. for (you) to care about the others.
>>114650999What is EN?
>>114651022it'd just be Hololive Chaebol or something
>>114650960Xister this level of delusion is not healthy. They will only be more buried by the girls being unified.
>>114650908>they all had different problemsyeah nigger exactly, also>fansthis retard is a massive beggar, so i bet he's fuming because there is no signs of homos on this
>>114651014>holoJPthat's not a thing anymore chud
>>114650832or the advent of the end?
>>114650668>unlistedhuh?
>>114650838Here
>>114650971this also works in reverseit's not gonna make majority of JP bros to watch EN's lol
>>114650973That means that almost all hololive members will wualify for the cripple tally now.It's gonna be HUGE.
>>114650985>niji "no concerts" EN>phase "male collab and bf yab" connect>winninglmao they're definitely doing something
>>114651003>Train huggerDoes that mean they lay their head on the tracks of an oncoming train?
>>114651035>>114650994Only 3?
>>114650943>ERB lost Nah , she will mention homos again
>>114651024No wonder Kiara is buddying up with Nimi now that she sees the writing on the wall for the English speaking holos.
>>114650999this is why no one likes her except a few of the mentally deranged KFP that patrol these threads
>>114650601Actually, this is a genuine concern. Are we not getting anymore English talent? Or is English talent going to be merged with Japanese talent for future gens?
>>114650981Wait I just remembered lol. You're right. They actually wanted holostars merged with holo kek
>>114650979Not really. Up until early 2021 she was in Australia, then she had three long hiatus between then and now. I don’t think Haachama went through a full year since then without a months long hiatus
>>114651027You are wrong and you are a retard.
>>114651039if they could somehow download the japanese language into my brain then yeah I might care but as it is now, the language barrier is too much for me
>>114650759>>114650939Worth
>the new unit has an EN speakerI bet these retards will invent another angle after this happens.
>>114650976Oh shit, last EN concert...damn
basically hololive just forfeited the western english market
>>114651070It'd just be Hololive 17 or whatever they choose to call it
>>114651003A collection of the worst flags.
>>114651079https://x.com/ASOBIMAWARITAI/status/2096931427078344971Where's the English?
>>114650833Holo en lose to this btw
>>114651070Shut UP Dumbass! We already answered this last thread!
>>114651079doesnt counts
>>114651070All gens are now mixed gensIn practice they'll all be mostly JP gens with 1 bilingual speaker like Bae or IRyS
>>114651079A passion English speaker, maybe
So that's it? Holo en is over just like that?
Spanish? Russki?
>>114651085How so?
Will the new gen be mixed in terms of languages? Jp, en-jp and id-jp? I wanna see the ‘id’ member’s struggle for numbers.
>>114651060you dont exist anymore
>>114650975except we were all saying a new EN gen is never happening after justice flopped so hard
HOMOSTARS EN OUTLIVED HOLOLIVE EN KEEEEEEEEK
Who's ID RM is thishttps://x.com/akuBearuaNK/status/2096936153274531975
The EN Tally will continue as this is only a change of labels. However, during classification, the talents will now only be (Hololive) instead of (Hololive English)In case this new mechanic brings out a new audience for HoloEN, tally requirement might increase to 10k, the same as Global.
>>114651079no way that would happen, how are they going to function as a group if one of them don't speak japanese?
FUCK! Riku you nigger where's my merger, huh?
>>114650943You mean>NijiEN won>Phase won>Donnie won>/HLG/ won
>>114651069Go outside
1h old already at 12k likes and 300k views
is it fair to say the dev_is experiment was a failure? not because the girls are bad but because it makes no sense to make a new brand that lacks the strength of your main brand
>>114651125BASEED
>>114651112Why kid around? We all know it's just going to be all Japanese speakers
>>114650899>HoloFes in USnever gonna happen
>>114651116HATE MARKETING WORKS
>>114651070The new gen will have one girl who speaks English on the side and when you complain about still not getting enough holoEN streams people will tell you that there is no holoEN and you should just watch other talents
>>114650943>NERISSA WONDid she? He's so EOP, I fail to see how she'll get further. She's about as bad as ERB in terms of her EOPness. I get that Nerissa is a weeb, but being a weeb can only get so far>but BibooBiboo will do well because cunny. Gura was EOP as FUCK, but she was cunny. Now, if only Biboo actually got more TALENTED, then maybe she can actually grow her sub count...Also>IRYS WONYou left that out. This merger will benefit IRyS the most.
>>114650975>years with debuts2020202120232024>years with sololives202220252026Not a coincidence. I have had no interest in an EN5
>>114651079yeah an En speaker who will click with the Jp fanbase and get better numbers during JP hours...
>>114651056I saw no one from the "Stars" group in the presentation
>>114650979It's very likely recording only started in the past couple years. Taking 5 years to get it produced would've included trying to negotiate payment and studio time and writers, not just animation.
>>114651118>In case this new mechanic brings out a new audience for HoloENwhy would it?
So were MekPark just complete shitters and Cover found better girls already?
>>114650943Bae also won
>>114651112It's just gonna be JPs from now on with maybe a IRyS/FUWAMOCO type here and there, but even they will be mainly Japanese speaking.Absolutely no IDs. Those are actually straight up dead now.
>>114651140You sound scared
>>114650774she looks like she'd be brutally Kuroinu'd
>>114650943EN winner are advent + chadcast, because they are all in Japan, while the losers are justice, Kiara, Ina, Kronii. Maybe Ina can move to Japan, and ERB is liked enough by jp, the rest are giga screwed though.
Sex with the Fattest ass in Hololive.
>>114650985>C: neither
>>114650929>IRyS noshe's already testing the waters by doing streams in JP evening and speaking 50% JP
>>114651145>>NERISSA WON>Did she? He's so EOP, I fail to see how she'll get further. She's about as bad as ERB in terms of her EOPness. I get that Nerissa is a weeb, but being a weeb can only get so far
>>114651145what does Gura do better than Biboo though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M4E3WGWlRM&t=3196s
so Holo EN is finally dying huh?
>>114650999in what now?
NIJISANJI EN AND PHASE CONNECT ARE NOW THE BIGGEST EN VTUBER CORPOS HAHAHAAHAHAHA
So now everyone is equalbut some members are more equal than others?
>DEV_IS girls happy>the most ride or die EN girl happyso what does this say about the girls who aren't?
>>114651117Kobau
I know everyone's hooting and hollering about EN, but in all honesty this entire thing feels like a big effort to save HoloID more than anything.
>>114651124>NijiEN wonPhyrric at best. Their CCV is still shit.>Phase wonFair and true. Still, only 6% global viewership. Better up those numbers, fishboy.>/HLG/ wonPretty much.
I love Advent, I don't care about holoEN.
>>114651112https://x.com/ASOBIMAWARITAIit's jp their entire account is in japanese
>>114650994That's Korone retard
>>114651149Yagoo dont want unicorn madIn reality they will happily meet biboo and fwmc in japan
Why is reddit seemingly very happy about this change?Or are they just tip toeing around because they don't want to get downvoted/banned from the sub?
So basically any Hololive talent that doesn't speak Japanese is almost in a homo state at this point. Not nearly as bad, but similar in how the company just doesn't give a fuck about you anymore.
>>114650833PAGPAG DORYAAAAAAAAA
>>114651141...If the goal is 3view and being irrelevant
So Kronii and Flare are definitely making big changes, IRyS is also extremely likely to make big change. Who else is up there?
>>114651163IDs are cheap to hire, and can prove to be marketable without the ID tag hanging over their heads.
Fuwamoco, Bae and IRyS are currently dancing on holoEN's grave while thanking the spirit of emperor hirohito
>Le japonese language only boogeymanLmaoing at this pathetic angle
>>114651188those should graduate
>>114650327Whats mori going to do if she quits? masturbate on fansly? no one is paying for that>>114650403based
>>114651174huh did someone hear something?
>>114651188>most ride or dieMori isn't happy. Kiara isn't happy.
>>114651118EN tally is pointless and has been for a long time, this is your opportunity to organically let it die.
>>114650659Very kissable face
>>114651149Yep It's dead hehehehe
>>114651195>6%/10ftfy
>Fauna was the last true HoloEN to exist in HololiveNimi won
https://exhentai.org/s/ffb557520c/4174109-1Kanadeso doing Numbers
>>114651128The goal was to make Holos that are designed as regular anime people instead of the wacky otaku designs of the last few gens as a means to get a more normie crowd
>>114651126I think I like Kiara now...........
>The year HoloEN died, Mori's anniversary stream wasn't used on inviting ENs for a final celebration of the EN branch but instead off inviting ex-Vshojo membersSomeone explain what Mori is doing
>>114651114>Justice killed ENholy shit
>>114651227>Mori isn't happyThis nigga doesn't watch streams
>>114651202main reddit hololive sub is full of hololive fanboys. they're attached to the hololive brand. you can see that by the way they're treating good faith and healthy skepticism. it's all instant downvotes
>>114651117>>114651189it's the moon
>>114651141he is just a beggar now
>>114651128As a concept? Yeah. The actual talents are doing fine.
>>114651229yeah, it gets stale when only hololive wins
/jp/cuck lost btw
>>114651216Like I said, the moment one of the new talents speaks english, a new angle will be done.
>>114651184>this fucking retard beat enHOW?
>>114651161The new unit will be a Mekpark unit possibly of 2 Ens + 1 Jp, and then when they graduate (hopefully within a year) the new official gen will consist of graduates from Unit B + Anchora + this new EN unit
>>114651251Read her expression not the words she's forcing herself to say
>spend years shitposting that nijisanji english were getting the merger treatment >ends up happening to holoen and holoid instead>thread desperately trying to cope this is actually a good thing after all
>>114650677YOU WILL BECOME JAPANESE, BAU BAU!!
>>114651202>>114651254>Going to plebbitThey're just coping, same as here.
>>114651227Mori was pretty positive about the effect of this on their careers, though? She was just nostalgic about EN brand
>>114651114yeah thats what happens when you hire Nijisisters and Eurotards
>>114651182Singing and actually being funny.Especially singing. I'm not one of those chumbuds that will say she is THE best singer... but she was very strong. I would put her at IRyS, Nerissa and even ERB's level.Compared to that... I know Biboo tries, and she's fun to sing with, but she hasn't really captivated me the way Gura did. No offense to Biboo, and love her gaming streams, but there's a reason why so many chumbuds fell in love with Gura in 2020
>>114651169raora is in japan
>>114651006ERB is all about unity though, so if anything a branch merge is her winning
>biboo can't speak japanese for shit>probably getting deported soon
>>114651222>the free ride for holoEN is overshe can ride my dick anytime
>>114651201Nah looks like Yagoo has no 10 year plan for them
>>114651144Oh fuck dude, THIS is the plan, this was the vision all along
come home to indies /#/
Raora's comments
lol
You guys better support whatever EN oshi you have, because if she leaves, you're not getting a replacement
>>114651261>i'm going to lock in>70% of the branch stops streaming completely2027 live concert can't possibly be that impressive
>>114651290And she can't speak Japanese for shit
Bye HoloID....
>All the EN members that had absolutely no chance at learning Japanese graduated before this announcementI'm nooooticing
>>114651177she had an album currently in production with dreams of a sololive so she can't be objective here she literally can't afford not to think positive
>>114651241If she doing that type of shit she is going to be blackballed by jp immediately wtf
So this is the news Mori & Kiara were dooming about earlier this summer. I guess it makes sense since they were EN1I wonder if they hinted this to talent long ago. I was always curious why a lazy bitch like Nerissa moved to Japan
>>114651161Mekpark are extremely inexperience with content creation they are a long term project not experienced off-the-shelf streamers.
>>114651169>CC is irrelevant nobody even mentions her anymore
>>114651317Eww fuck no
>>114651279>merging because of management overlap is the same as trying to hide a series of bullying because you hired a clique.
>>114651292it's her fault for being SEA
They're not closing the sidebranch channels though, they're just repurposing them so anyone who speaks EN can now reach that audience, likewise for JP
>>114651317god these two are fucking annoying
>>114651275cuckpark is a humiliation ritual that was set up to fail, probably some project a retarded suit wanted they gave no budget to for him to stop fucking up other things
>>114650973ORjust grandfather them in? This is a first for holol but in the future, other company/group rebrands will happen
>There will never be another EN speaking talent>FWMC and IRyS will now only speak JP>Most other ENs will speak JP more or learn it seriouslyAt-atleast the IDs will not be debuffed anymore… r-right guys?
>>114651114Every time I pointed out that Justice was the biggest failure of EN ever I was met with cope about how their trash subcount meant nothing
>>114651320kek it's like she is graduating
>>114651324HOMOSAARS BROS???
>>114651186Nijisanji EN and Holo EN were never corporations. Phase has been the biggest EN corp since Vshojo imploded.
>>114651291No the term "holopro" no longer exists and hololive is specifically all female now. She can hang out with the indie stars as she pleases of course
>>114651324
>>114651284She literally said that they will be doing more stuff in Japanese for JP audiences which is something that she wants for herself. Yea it's positive for her career wise but what does it do for me as an EN fan? The whole spiel about also getting more EN focused content from JP members is obviously bullshit, the only JP member who can actually speak passable enough english to be a regular, non awkward participant in EN content is Ririka. You'll just get more indogs shoved down your throat because there is no holoEN or holoID anymore while the EN girls spend even more time on JP content.
>>114651222>no one is paying for that>looks at her latest selfieuhh I will
>enter board>Every fucking schizo woke up and is spamming schizo shit hereMan am I glad you guys can't post on Towa>Leave board
>>114651279We come to that conclusion by using context jackass. We aren't all simple minded idiots like you. It was being said about NijiEN because their viewership tanked and the performance was terrible. That isn't the case with HoloEN. They are still massively successful. The people viewing this as a negative are just overly emotional and afraid of chance, even if that change is for the better. Yes, that does include Kiara. She doom posts about everything.
>>114651292>>114651351you lost, donie
https://x.com/juufuuteiraden/status/2096935686905778640Raden updates
>>114651011>>114651041>>114651185Kiara is easily the biggest dramafag in Hololive
how did redditowa take the news?
>>114651342CC already said she will be moving to Japan next year after making sure her parents are fine
So Kaela and Reine are in this now, right?
So what is actually up with Koone? She doesn't want to share the same brand with the dirty ID/EN/Glossers?
>>114651317No, it's not that dire. I'm ok with not getting any more lazy westerners as the "EN" speakers because every new EN gen we got was worse than the last. This just means I'll slowly watch hololive less and less as time goes on and they continue to do JP-only things. 95% of all the streams I watch are all the same dudes ive followed on twitch since way before hololive was even a thing, so it won't change much. Fuck indies, they're all trash.This just means ill slowly stop watching vtubers altogether which is fine by me, fuck this faggot ass sub-section of streamers. It's all so retarded.
>>114651320is not only kiara?
>>114651373>Phase has been the biggest EN corSo Vtubing is dead in the west
kek the holo/homo sub and twitter are melting down because of no homos
>>114651324MEMORY HOLED
Did she know this was coming eventually and wanted to get out in front of it? She had 0 intent to ever move to Japan or seriously study Japanese.
>>114651321i'm not reading all thati'm happy for you thoor sorry that happened
>>114651337She literally said that HoloEN is evolving from Pichu into Pikachu
/vt/ the indie boardholotower dying soon
>>114651402Coping, I'd wagerActually, let me go see the posts that are getting deleted there KEK
>>114651383well I guess this marks the end for me watching vtubers then. I didn't start watching this to learn moonrunes
>>114651383Shouldn't you, as an EN fan, have the girls' successes and their careers at the top of your priority?
>>114651340Some of those ACHRORA rms have been streaming longer than HoloX.
>>114651406No she won't lol
>>114651424Post screen and links pls
Does this make "Move to Japan or Graduate" official policy?
it's not her fault
even holos biggest simp can only bring up game perms as a positive for this merger
>>114651324Homos got stalin'd
>>114651412No, that's completely canceled, which is good
>>114651320See, this is a fantastic comment that both honors the past while also showing excitement for the future. Kiara really needs an emotional coach to get her to reign in her doom posting emotional outbursts.
>They saw the writing on the wall>Chose to leave while keeping their dignity as EN talents>Are all verifiably happier due to marriage, a career, or better work life balanceHoly shit.
>>114651427No, because Kiara and Mori started dooming hard about this a while ago and that was already after Fauna left.There's no single moment of cover making the talent depressed. It happens in waves.
>>114651393never trust a woman who describes herself as princess
>>114651390Ok bye see you in 1 minute
/NijiEN/ is dancing on our grave and talking about this threadThey are definitely posting here
>>114651414>stop watching VTubers altogetherthe good ending. tbdesu fuck this VTuber shit. this is the best time to leave the hobby. i always knew it was for social rejects and porn addicted losers
>>114651470yeah man gura seems mega happy lately
>>114651427I am a bit convinced the writing was on the wall back in 2024, a reason why they made this move. Gura, Fauna and Mumei didn't want to move to Japan, so they all opted out. I also still buy the rrat that Fauna legit thought Vshojo was the better option and tried to rpe in all of SNOT to join her
>>114651402>>114651390oh nevermind hardcore COPE it is
>>114651289dunno about the funny part but yeah i forgot about Gura's power level when it comes to singing. it's been a long time. though, I prefer someone who makes an effort to improve other than being talented and not doing anything.
>>114651447No, I have my own entertainment and satisfaction as my top priority because I am not mentally ill.
>>114651417It's a small niche but the high water mark for western vtubing was 2021.
>>114651424post pleasehell where is my nigga RIDER
>>114651447to an extent but I've always cared and loved hololive english not hololive as a whole
>>114651465This vietfag is a homotranny. Beggars lost. He lost
>>114651406Yeah her parents health is what's concerning. She's probably in the group who loves to move to JP so they can do more idol stuff
so the guy who leaked about the HoloNEXT being a merger of branches was actually a Cover staff? it's very interesting that Cover is actually keeping an eye on us!
>>114651289>gura actually funny>gura at same singing level as irys nerissa erbkek chumbuds are really still this delusional even in 2026
>>114651470>Senzawa>happy and healthyPick one.
>>114651383Ding ding, correct! See? I knew you guys were gonna slowly understand what this merging shit was all about. Mori wants more JP stuff because she has a record label contract that's based in Japan so of course she does. But everyone else is kinda fucked now. You'll get it little by little, /#/. You'll understand how a japanese company works. You'll understand it too little too late, but you will.
If anything this will make it extremely easy for Anycolor to follow suit and officially cut support for Niji EN. It's just the industry standard at this point.
>>114651424I wanna laugh please link or post screenshots
>>114651424Lets see the melties
>>114651470>Better work life balanceThere is no work life balance with them since there is no work. None of them actually do anything aside from Nimi.
UMMMMM IS IT TRUE IS ERB REALLY HOLOLIVE NOW
>>114651449grim arent they still getting mogged by the noobs
This is the real meaning of this merge. Let's see how many JP girls post similar messages in English now that there are no longer any barriers.
>>114651427Yes, this obviously was in the works for a while now
Which anons got to see the last ever HoloEN concert?
>>114651457No but it makes it "move to Japan or basically get left out of most stuff" even more policy than it is now.
>>114650943>ERB LOSTmy nigga her new cover with Mori just reached 1 million a few hours ago, if anything she's winning
Kiara says what other COWARDS are afraid to say AS USUAL.
>>114651169Funny how retards likr you cannot not out thenselves. Raora has lived in Japan since before she debuted; this benefits her. Ina and Nerissa have lived in Japan for over a year. Bet you thought otherwise, idiot.
>leaves>wrecks your entire companyGigachum
>>114651470>Are all verifiably happier due to marriage, a career, or better work life balanceSo you agree that Saba isn't actually sick and her fans are retarda?
>>114651496Thats good, and I too am rooting for Biboo. I do think she has a lot of potential. That said, I'm just pointing out why Biboo has not yet succeeded the way Gura or even Kobo has. And its a shame too - Biboo had to spend THREE years just to get to a million.
>This redditowa post didn't get deletedHow?
>>114651465For beggars this news should make them suicidal.
if your oshi is not an EOP get ready to be japanese
>>114651241Her monthly humiliation ritual.
>>114651406She didn't say that at all
>>114651558She's scared since she's no longer a daisenpai able to leech the Myth fame now, she's just another face amongst many
why is she so sensitive?
>>114651540and the funniest part is that you'll NEVER catch JP talents tweet in english. this is going to be very one-sided
>>114651520she isn't dealing with schizos like us anymore, so she DOES have a peace of mind now
>>114651474So will Suisei update from Studio Stellar/Nerd Inc to simply Hololive? Or like is she not part of Hololive production anymore?
>>114651517Well its kinda obvious about the mergeWe already saw it from Migo's walk game collab, how she say about being friends forever thing
>>114651517it was obvious with Gigi's "otsuEN" and now the IDs anon
>>114650960Retardchama, they literally REMOVED the official auditions page for Holostars. It officially means there will be NO MORE FUTURE HOLOSTAR MEMBERS to join.
>>114651567you lost, Biboo schizo
>>114651340>He doesn't knowAchrora are all veterans and can use obs better than your oshi anon... Only unit b are noobies.
>>114651202Because it is a good thing for hololive? You're not very smart, are you.
>>114651490I mean it's been a year for anyone involved in Vshojo to leak that Fauna or any of the others were involved in talks. No one has. I just don't see any evidence of it other than monumentally stretching one Saba twitter follow into a whole conspiracy theory.
>inb4 this was the thing that Kiara had been doomposting about for so long and said that she talked about it she'd be terminated
>there will never be another EN concert>FWMC, IRyS, Bae, and Mori will never speak English againWhats the point man I'm fucking done with this company
>>114651537Two of them got jobs outside vtubing.
So when does Kronii get her tits reduced?
THIS
How did she know?
>>114651518everyone knows she mogs biboo in most measures of quality, you don't even have to be a chumbud to see that
Cover prefers to kill HoloEN gradually rather than all at once.Cringe.
They accidentally made this games UI even shittier once they forcefully remove this
>>114651588>woman
>This redditowa post didn't get deleted eitherI'm shocked.I honestly assumed they'd be going full "SHUT IT DOWN" cope mode.
>>114651565what do you mean the company improved now that they don't have to focus on sidebranch shitters
>>114651588Because she doesnt want goob and ame memory be erasedcome to think of it, very myth anniversary reminds us of those two, every group collab too
The recent holoID collab just show how solid they are as a branch while holoEN fucking hate each other
>>114651591She's still getting butthurt phasecucks spamming her youtube comments/twitter or doxxing her.
>>114651558Kiara is the palestine of enRespect
>>114651517Not a leak just some educated guessing based on tweets and general vibes.
>>114651601they can still scout, dumbass
>>114651623Holostars EN still exist
Kiara is pissed she can’t boss around EN anymore as "EN daisenpai"
>>114650805It's so fucking over, en-only ruffians will get even more ostracized now bau bau⤵⤵⤵
>>114650981aahhh no wonder they're seething KEK
does this mean jp viewers are now guilt tripped into watching the En speaking girls?
i've seen people mention a merger yesterdayhow did they know? did someone leak it?
>>114651517Did you miss all of ID crying and doomposting during their last collab?
>>114651631Ofcourse it's a grem
>>114651592She can benefit from what she wants while fucking off Hololive for all her solo activites. Best of both worlds.
>>114651645>being bilingual is badWhat an idiot
>>114651474So DEVIS retardation is really dead? They get idol outfits now, but will probably get split up during Fes
>>114651567Whats with the obsession? Subs were way easier to get years ago, and Biboo has never asked for them nor is she a music holo. Shes one of the only few streamers though whos there almost daily, I prefer that much more.
>>114651669You can see it if you watch streams everyday
>>114651656How is she dooming over this? Wouldnt it mean she finally gets to be in JP like she always wanted? It must be bad behind the scenes for EN
>>114651572That's not really even shitposting it's probably what happened.
>>114651666They wouldn't do that anyway, only EN does saviorfag pitywatching to any significant degree
>Raora learn japanese or fuck off
Feels like this is is really the start of grim days for en vtubing with holo en gone, vshoji imploding and niji en already decaying even if they are still alive...
>>114651666LMAO>>114651686>He thinks any new bilingual holos are gonna speak more than 5% EnglishPoor anon still coping
>>114651638idc about your obsession with biboo as long as you agree she's not funny and not at the same singing level as the others mention
>>114651645you guys always overblow the fuck out of tower moderationbut then again you probably think "KEKKAROO IM GOING TO KILL KIARA IRL" is a good post
>JP all have streams scheduled today as per usual>nobody in EN streaming
>>114651639>boil the frog slowlyYes. It's nothing personal. It's just good business
>>114651645I mean there's a difference between shitposting and obvious conclusions about what happens yetLet's be real there will never be another EN or ID and we all know it.
>https://x.com/moricalliope/status/2096935755407086055>If we are to be joined by more someday, I will treat them as not only Hololive, but will look after them the same was as I have ENIs it just me or does this entire tweet read like she has given up on any more English or Indonesian members ever debuting?
>>114651666Jp viewers dont watch shiori collabing with flayon and jurard
>>114650981Funniest part of all this
>Niggas here conveniently forget that the real controversy behind NijiKR and NijiID's merges is that a bunch of people got fired>And that when NijiEN inevitably gets rolled over too, a bunch of people will get fired too.>Same with Yumenographia VTA China etc etc etc>Hell and even then the old NijiIDs would probably be included into the ID Tally if they didn't all just burn and die
I don't understand the cope.EN branch was always a joke and was made functional with Advent.It's nouns fundamentally.Every real hololive fan studies Japanese.
>>114651656Kiara will now be exposed as the true runt she really is when she enters the big pond as the small fish
>kiaraschizo posting on cooldownGO MY KING YOU CAN DO IT
>>114651713I don't think it's necessarily good for JP either
SEEEEEEEEEXhttps://x.com/holo_dreams_en/status/2096936520544309573
>>114651686>release "bilingual gen">they just become a JP gen because their collabs have to be in one languageanon you have to be smarter than this
>The new models will be prioritized based on stuff like activities and upcoming events>IRyS has an upcoming sololive in like a monthSo the next updated model we are getting is going to be IRyS? I hope so since the Sora one was absolutely gorgeous. Can't wait to see IRyS.
New EN talent never everI'm laughing thinking of everyone that thought EN5 was just around the corner.
>>114651730>>114650739
>>114651722>>114651721Reminder that like a month ago they changed the auditioning guidelines to include a Japanese fluency requirement.
Prophetichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NXolv2yxck
>>114651722>ERB and Gigi killed HoloENAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I FUCKING CALLED IT WHEN THEY DEBUTED ALL YOU FAGGOTS OWE ME AN APOLOGY
>>114651718Who is JP and EN? Hololive has streamers everyday now!
>>114651655Not for long, this sealed their doom. Cover isn't going to keep paying for them to have separate infrastructure when everyone else is merged and JP Homos are already cutoff.
>>114651747fat as fuck mococo
>>114651722God I hope so
>>114651763>Reminder that like a month ago they changed the auditioning guidelines to include a Japanese fluency requirement.No?
>cover says they will improve mental health help>destroys their jobs 1 year laterICE COLD
>>114651732Not sure how much gigi and erb are happy about the merge
We're a long ways from 2020, aren't we
>>114651592She is still simply Studio Stellar no Holo nothing
i'm more fasicnated about the holomems reaction to the merge, especially their insistence to remove their EN/ID/DEVIS labeling. usually, when someone graduates they will say "we will always be 5 people", but here they wanted to remove their branch labeling like it's some black history they want to forget. i wonder what caused this mentality, or is it being forced upon them?
>>114651722>If we are to be joined by more somedayKEK it's over for EN
>>114651779They did, check it.Maybe it was longer ago though, I don't remember.
>>114651747There's nothing sex about this
>>114651722Glass half-empty glass half-full. You just revealed your bias based on your interpretation.again, if any of the new talents just announced was multilingual, then you're going to scurry around for a new angle.
>New Gens will be bilingualNo retard, Hololive EN is dead. We always knew it was dead. The CCV on the streams dropped dramatically and without Gura, there was no point in keeping this crap alive anymore.
I think the best cope I can offer is that cover is a company that acts slowly, so there's genuinely a chance we still get a EN5 that was auditioned and prepared before they decided to do this within the next year.After that there really won't be any more English speaking talent, though.
>>114651412Literally never again
Can't say I'm optimistic about the merge. Reminds me too much of Nijisanji and how the ex-ID and select ex-EN talents were treated like dirt. I doubt Cover knows what it's doing.
>>114651145anon Biboo's subcount is one of the few in EN that's still actually growing, many literally flatlined
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Mxyz6iR-Y&t=861>Lowkey if it wasn't for football right now I would probably take a break.>I will not comment too much about it because if I if I talk openly about it I would get fired.>Things have been quite upsetting for me behind the scenes and it's fucking me up and I honestly don't really want to work like this, but it is what it is and we gotta have fun with the footsie.>So I'm just being my usual professional self that moves on from whatever bullshit is happening behind the scenes and just continues grinding.>"I hope what it is resolves easily" - No, it will actually not resolve. It has proven to not resolve itself. No matter what I did, no matter what I attempted, it has proven to not resolve which was why I crashed out.>"Do we start a revolution?" - Hmmm. No. No. revolution is hard to put into reality.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oxi1ZixKzA&t=3559>Yeah, I want to go back to those times. Anything but the present, please. I fucking hate the present right now. I'm living in hell right now. I feel the most alone I've ever have been feeling in my whole life right now. It's really bad fucking hate my life right now so much. It's a pain to just be awake>"Please make sure to rant to someone that you can talk about" The problem is like it's so complicated. It needs like so much context I've been letting it out a little bit here and there, but it's like such a really hopeless, pointless situation like nothing helps, nothing can be solved It's a lost cause, and I tried to fight and I fell from graceNow everything kiara was doomposting about makes so much more sense
Justice was such a big failure that they killed EN... wow no words.
>>114651722>as I have ENis the EN here in the room with us?
Everyone treating this as anything other than amazing news is a seething holoanti
>Mori's new tweetRight. The perms are synchronized now. I wonder if this meant they will have more leeway with English songs
>>114651711Raora lives in Japan, she's fine. She's been able to survive as a expat who just dngaf about integrating.
>jumped ship before it sankshe won
>>114651803>>114651801>bilingualYou know just as well as I do that any JP/EN fluent speaker is going to focus on streaming in JP since that's where the money and opportunities are at.
>>114651657Shut the fuck up and learn Japanese you faggot
>>114651817You guys should apologize to Kiara. She cared about EN the most the entire time
>>114651730"I'm not pitting 2views against 3-4views. That's just cruel" laughing as I typed this. It is funny, but not worth digging the numbers for. The tally was always called holoID tally.
Shiora is going to introduce EN culture to JP by collabing with the boys
>>114650569You fucking faggots were supposed to outlive NijiEN, not just lay down a die off. Fucking embarrassing.
>>114651801Brother, I can already tell you in advance that if one of the members gets announced as "multilingual", I will not believe for a second they will have any English streams until I see it.The days of a new holo coming in to cater to the English speaking audience are over.
>>114651201>he's STILL trying to cuckpostjust give up faggot.
Since there are no branches anymore, in theory a Spanish speaking chubba can be hired into Holo and they will simply be Holo Gen what ever, but they will be Spanish coded and might even do streams in spanish
anyone have the gif of chloe smacking and punching a fish?
>>114651367Raora likes to troll
>>114651788>is it being forced upon themDid you not see Yagoo's hostages talking at gunpoint
>>114651697You know that reminds meI've wondered why the dev_is channel get renamed to be specific to regloss while flowglow got their own channel, when you'd think they'd stick with a single channel like the other branchesThe fact that they didn't do this indicates that this merging could have been in the plan for at least 2 years
>>114651732ngl kiara main charactering is delightful
Wow, HoloEN got integrated before NijiEN?
Didn't watch, did covernment mention anything about the holostars?
>>114651788The brand is meaningless. It's the people that make the brands, not the other way around.I doubt IRyS cared if, say, they changed "Promise" to "LoliLovers" and told her to change her Twitter profile accordingly
>>114651722not reading all that happy for u tho or sorry that happend
The absolute BEST case scenario for EN is they will dump a few of them in a future kekpark gen youre never seeing a real Holo with better English than Haachama ever again
>>114651845Told you it's all holoantis larping like it's not amazing news
>>114651748So many mems are becoming jp only it's so fucking over
Isn't it funny that the only reason there's a doomer mindset about this is because nijisanji ruins everything?
>>114651821JP have the same issue with western songs as EN if that is what you're talking about. If you mean translyrics, that is up to the owner of the song rights.
>Iofi streaming>Literally doesn't give a fuck about changes
>Super Hololive God Super Hololive
>>114651732nobody in the top tier has even given an opinion yet
>>114651854na they will all need to speak japanese as a requirement
>>114651839Not the face of HoloEN, but maybe the heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcSuSzbj38MHow did we go from this to the current nightmare situation that we have now? Like what did the EN girls even do wrong?
They've had auditions for EN5 before, haven't they? It's possible they have something coming up that happened before Hololive decided to axe EN.
so everyone gonna have a new face close to the previous??
>>114651805then you can bet on more holostars as well
i hate japan
>>114651832Shes getting deported by Onoda-sama
>>114651891holy sex
>>114651821The answer: no.
>>114651289This is pretty ironic considering that its well known some chumbuds chose Biboo and became Pebbles, its likely disregarding their existence
>>114651817I really don't get what's the problem. Woman moment, I guess.
>>114651833Soon she will be the only entry in the EN tally (sometimes)...
>>114651793>>114651779it's true, it's a "welcome skill" or a guideline as the anon put itHololive is very obviously pushing with this merge a bigger JP focus. it's not going to be a multicultural, multilingual experience EN fans are hoping for.
>>114651902>They broke the EN dimensionMakes sense if you ask me
>>114651885That and Kiara having no emotional intelligence. Most of the doom posts I see on twitter and the like is because of her post and stuff she has said.
>>114651902>what did the EN girls even do wrong?Weren't Japanese enoughAnd they still want revenge for Gura
kek what if the stars were given a choice to merge and the jp side said it's better to get dissolved than to merge with the filthy gaijins.
Fuck! My stomach hurts because of the anxiety. Help me to cope bros...
>>114651817Kiara should have stayed in Japan and continued speaking heavily Japanese. She could be at least as successful as Mori but instead she isolated herself in Europe
>>114651921That's not a requirement
>>114651732>Mori>seethingAre you just making stuff up and hoping others didn't watch the streams?
Hololive wonHololive ex-EN wonUnicorns wonI won (did nothing)
>>114651470Bro they all left because they didn’t want jobs.
>>114651870What the FUCK is a holostar?
>>114651891she's streaming with THE KING. THE DAISENPAI. She'll be fine
>>114651919>I really don't get what's the problem.Kiara would like new EN genmates, retard.
OLLIE NUMBERFAGGING
>>114651902EN died when Gura left its that simpleJustice being Euros and fujos buried it six feet under
>>114651854They would swap to English or Japanese on Day 2, Spanish speakers are poor. If they ONLY spoke Spanish they would basically be trapped in a nightmare where literally not one other single person in the company could meaningfully interact with them.
>>114651936KWNBJ
>>114651934Nothing changes for you pebble, in fact it's better for Biboo
>>114651936>She could be at least as successful as Mori
>>114651788I mean, the point is that it is just a label, for like 95% of them it will be just business as usual and in fact I'm pretty shocked at the fact that Kiara is acting like this for a labelThe whole point of this is to unify perms and unify management so there is no more Fax shit which is what ended up causing stress for the talents. The only thing that is permanently changed is the debut of new talents which I'm going to bet will boil down to 5 person gen 2 JP 2 EN 1 ID 4 person gen 2 JP 1 EN 1 ID, but that's none of my business
>>114651417KEKAROOOOOO!
>>114651640it will be split up by Unit or gen
>>114651817Kiara could have been as successful as CHADcast girls if she just stayed in Japan and streamed in NA hours instead of insisting on moving to Europe and streaming in EU hours
>>114651942anon, what do you think putting japanese at a "native level" as a guideline and english at a just "business level" implies for what the company is looking for in their applicants? let's do an exercise of reading between the lines.
>all doomposting entirely concentrated on this dead board because schizos are banned from Towa and redditI bet you guys wish people could see your schizo rants. Hahahahahahaha
>>114651898yeah but they could also do spanish streams or primarily speak spanish on stream while also have some Jap and En speaking abilities enough to get hired
>>114651833>>jumped ship before it sank>she wonThat doesn't mean she is not in the deep
>>114651919>>114651936She crashed out because she's effectively demoted from the daisenpai of HoloEN to just another member of hololive. Even if the changes are just her title only.
All of Hololive under one banner now. What about the...
>>114651970>The only thing that is permanently changed is the debut of new talents which I'm going to bet will boil down to 5 person gen 2 JP 2 EN 1 ID 4 person gen 2 JP 1 EN 1 ID, but that's none of my businessThe absolute state of your delusion, mate.
>>114651832Raora rm is very active rn
>>114651933if fagni and vespiss had just stayed in they would have got their models redesigned, so sad
>>114651934Hm? What's wrong? It was nothing but good news. Doomposters (talent included) are just people who fear change.
>>114651891I think she speaks JP doesn't she?
>>114651933Why would they get a say in anything? This just makes it easier to completely shut down both homo branches, they are not part of Holopro or Hololive or anything now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xYekUcLRs4HOLY MOLY 1 M IN A DAY?
Kek
>>114651902cover hired justice to replace the 4 girls who graduated but they weren't good enough
So now when I post about how Justice ruined EN it doesn’t mean anything anymore?
>>114651919>>114651839All Kiara cared about was being a special snowflake.Unironically a huge part of her self esteem stems from being a Myth member, even if she was the runt she was still there from the beginning of HoloEN and "helped shape it" in some way.Now that's gone. Even assuming absolutely nothing changes for EN behind the scenes, as doubtful as that is, and new English focused gens will be released and what not, for Kiara herself it was still a blow to her portfolio.
>>114651997>Hm? What's wrong?No more new EN gens.
I'm literally not gonna watch vtubers anymore if this seriously means they're just gonna be full JP from now on while pretending not to be. Because fuck that. I get enough of that shit already with fuwamoco.
>>114651734but she won't be the runt this time since HoloID are also part of this now
>>114651988Well that or they hosted auditions to prank people #trolled
>>114651902Nothing, the fad just died eventually in the west. if you want to blame anyone blame Gura for taking all her potential and tossing it in the wastebasket.
>>114651118but how would you deal with the new holos? if one ofbthe Asobi is manily an EN speaker, you can't just add her because for intents and purposes, her channel is JP. it's like adding Coco on EN tally because she debuted speaking English
>>114652003they are Yagoo's BOYS
>>114651955but why she never does anything with them anyways never tries to bond seriously
>>114651970Kiara is overly emotional and has trouble letting go of the past. She still posts that shitty Myth art with all the members and is the one that has to invite Ame to all her concerts. The fact that she is acting like this over something like a label isn't surprising at all.
>>114651956What does this even mean
>>114651654They don't and they Won't, dumbass.
>>114651614none of them will ever leak anything, and while the twitter follow is a bit of a stretch there is a lot of weird "coincidences" around the whole vshojo collapse and sabahow she stopped streaming right after thathow she stopped talking/collabing with Nimi how dooby unfollowed herIs not just one thing
>>114652012more proofs that holoen is DEAD and ERB killed it
>>114652012DORYAAAAAAAAAA! MORI SETTING ANOTHER RECORD! (close at least)
>>114651942When you read "Welcome Skills" in a job posting that gets tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of applicants you know perfectly well they are requirements.
>>114652029but you never watched streams anon
>>114651983Surprisingly, you don't get banned or your post deleted for speaking the truth about this on redditowa.I know, anon, I'm shocked too.
Join Cover and you might get to design your oshi's new look
>>114651903They did but it's possible they didn't find enough people or they just canceled them.
>mori deleted hololive from her twitter name
>>114652041Clearly that means nothing, they are not included in whatever changes are happening.
I'm on fucking fire, and I bet you the other 3 will be announced later on the year too
>>114651722>The main takeaway, however, is this: I will always look out for our international members, without exception.not gonna happen good luck though
>>114652015homos have been offtopic since the twin dogs mod went on a tear there, no?
>>114651844Shiori will have her way
>>114651934It is always pebbles who suffer the most.
>they said thdI said "brother anon don't it means total Holo death">They said "you a beggar"I said "brother anon don't confuse me with infidel your abbreviation will backfire" >They said "fuck off with crypto begging "I said" you will regret spamming it"Months later holoEN and HoloID merged into Holojp the same thing they had been parroting will be happening with nijien for years.
>>114651989Her rm was always active retard. She posts her drawings there
As a Japanese who speaks Japanese, how does this affect me personally
>Jap Man's profile is now in Japanese>Job description changed from "HololiveEN Team, Project Director" to "Cover Corp Ltd., Project Director"Even Jap abandoned us, ENbros...
>>114652029anon, just rewatch the first part, you didn't understand anything at all
You can tell this board is dead because every schizo woke up and posted their bait but they're not getting replies and they're samefag bumping their threads like crazy
>>114652026>sentimentality for her friendsDo you not understand why any of this worked in the first place, or why beloved chuubas are so hard to "replace"
From the reactions, I bet part of this is the new Twitter audience that started watching around 2023-2024 who kept shitting on certain EN girls for being EN but speaking or singing in Japanese You reap what you sow
So this is why they were all doomposting about this year's EN Concert most likely being the last.It all makes sense now.
>>114651698good point
>>114651933I don't think they were given a choice.
>>114651817at this point just graduate and go with the indie squad holy shit.But of course she wont because the bread is too good.
>>114652073Everyone did
>>114652064Oh so they're moving all of the charadesign stuff in-house so they don't have to pay big bucks to retain famous artists anymore.
>>114651817i'm starting to believe the rrat that the Hololive merge is more of a stockholder decision rather than an actual sane one. that's HYPER GRIM if so
>>114652090nobody honestly believed nijiEN would be merged because they know they're just going to get fired
>>114651194>it's to save ID!>IDs doomposting>fucking NEVER gonna see another indonesian talent debut again
KEK
>>114652074they don't have to appear in public to get welfare check. Small stipends for a few people is negligible
>>114651787>Suisei and Chloe saw the writing on the wall>Chloe went off to make her own brand/agency>Suisei followed in her footsteps and made her own brand/studio
>Nijisister capo immediately dramafarmingkek
>>114651788the Devis girls seem legitimately happy on twitter lmao
>>114652030>she will be competing with Lofi for relevanceGrim
>>114652075Miko statue has been a thing since March anon
>>114652092You now get forced to see non-JP more than before.
outside of basically a name change I don’t really see any problem
>>114652012HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>114651983You clearly aren't even reading. They're going way harder than we are
>>114651803fuck off Donie
>>114651902>a quarter just fucked off>one of them even dramabaited>half of the remaining talents stream once in blue moon>health hurt, ass hurt, computer hurt, head hurt, timezones hurt>all reliable talents are already in JapanI wonder
>>114651902Not streaming. Not making content. Not creating boxes. Griefing their way out.
>>114652157anon, that's your posts
>>114651919Kiara decided years ago that her target market is>Viewers who watch at European central time between 4PM and midnightShe pandered to krauts to make that work, and they didn't show up. She pandered to twitch shitters to make that work, and they didn't show up. She was a bit weird about overlaps when Justice debuted but she hoped they would grow the EU box with her.Now's she a JP member (second-class) by force while not living in Japan.EN is gone and buried and EU was smothered in the cradle while Kiara watched.
>>114652138It's different for DEV_IS, they were basically treated like second class citizens by Cover and had all sorts of stupid restrictions that set them apart from the "main" Hololive girls.For them it's a pretty clear improvement.
>>114652073She got the twitter handle years ago
>>114652012>>114652055Does this mean Mori and ERB are the first Hololive™ member to have a song reach 1 million views? lol
>>114652115>she wont
Kiara retweeted her post
Sora showed off her ponytail look which somehow makes her look like her previous model despite the new face
So is this any Mori was doomposting about no more EN concert next year or are we still getting one?
They could just debut a new EN unit by putting an english name as the unit name no?
>>114652134We'll see how long that lasts. Multiple JP just vanished instantly out of nowhere, thinking the same wont happen to the EN ones is pretty naive.
>>114652178why doesn't this apply to EN and ID too?
>>114652091never this active
>>114652138why wouldnt they be? they are no longer some managers pet project
Shadow government already on the movehttps://x.com/shirakamifubuki/status/2096942680437866642
>>114652090Oh hohohohoho no no don't try to spin this as a negative, the fact that the Homos got erased even from the organization chart is probably the best to come out of the stream
Is this why Pomu/Mint has refused to join Hololive even though she easily qualified? Kiara leaked it to her so she decided to keep her talents on the indie scene
With this merger they don't have to give EN their concert anymore because there is no ENI want an apology from the faggots who stuck their fingers in their ears earlier in the year when they said the dooming over possibly no concert next year was a nothingburger
>even troonbeats are getting sick and tired of dramawhore autofister fagsholy shit
>>114652189no more "EN" but maybe there will be a concert outside of JP
>>114652170No? I don't know what you get out pretending like Holofans aren't having a serious discussion over there while the Nijfags and Phasefags chimp out on this thread.
>>114652187Based
>>114652200Please don't cope, anon.
PERMS GAME WILL BE DIFFERENT, THINK ABOUT IT
https://x.com/BorosIsSTRONG/status/2096925852659282169was going public the worst thing that ever happened to hololive?
>>114652063looks like JP fags can shit on them now without any worry! good job towerfags enjoy your "thread culture"
everybody is talking about EN/ID but is dev_is still dev_is or not
Fuwamoco is totally going JP only, it's over ruffians
How are we feeling today, not my oshi not my problem lovers?
holoKR when?
>>114652214Based Ollie.Enough corpo spin already
Kiara knows what's going on. That's why she's so angry, but unlike Mori she's not a corpo bootlicker. So yes, you can be sure you won't have another Gen who speaks English.
>>114652189who is EN?
>>114651934We'll be fine, Biboo will stream as usual. Life goes on
>Holos delete Hololive EN from twitter>Homos still have Holostars ENUhoh sisters, what does this mean?
>>114652206Dev_is literally didn't even get new outfits and had to fight tooth and nail for them since Cover wanted them to be a set unit that's instantly recognizable and different outfits would make them stand out as individuals
>>114652200what you mean like "Unit B" or something?
>>114652236>NOOOO REDDITOWA ISN'T ENOUGH LIKE REDDIT YET, PLEASE MAKE IT A FULL SAFE SPACE FOR METhe absolute state of (You)
>>114652220troon (holofan) versus troon (former nijifan)
>>114652187>>114652214Tweets from specific members like these tell me I absolutely should be happy for these changes.
>>114652075>perms will be fused across all branchesIsn't that a good thing?>the manager rotation will be abolished, at least for holoENthat sounds good as well
AUTOFISTER NATION WAKE UPTHEY'RE TOGETHER NOW!!!
So phase is now the biggest english vtuber company in the west now
She was right all along....................
>>114652264Cover just said holostars are not Hololive, beggars on suicide watch.
Okay but is MUKBANG Holo too now?
>>114652206Because they were first-class citizens who got all the benefits without doing shit.
>>114652236Half of Towa is /here/, check 4stats
>>114652255Mori's barely hidden doomposting is more telling than Kiara's, to be honest. That's how I really know we're never getting another English speaking talent.
>Already beggingOof
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHERE WE COME BACK AGAIN
>>114652211imagine if this merge happened while homos still exist or Allah forbid, profitable. i wonder what would be the reaction haha
>>114652264You dramasisters KILLED Yagoo's pet project, now he's killing your oshis
>mfw when they stop speaking English, and Holotower starts pretending to know Japanese, and the site dies.
Let's list all the shit cover doesn't need to bother with now and can cut costs on now that enshitters don't get special treatment>no more en concert>no more enreco>no more lives in w*stern venues>no more members not living in Japan or speaking Japanese
ReminderHololive wonUnicorns won
>>114652174>EU was smothered in the cradle while Kiara watched.*EU got three members in Justice and Cover pandered to Europe with them while Kiara was forgotten
>>114652047Kiara used to be part of arguably the most important generation/branch of Hololive. Now she’s just another has been shitter in the pile.
>>114652282>manager rotationdid they even/ever have enough english speakers to rotate in the first place? Why was that ever a thing? LiveEN probably had to share managers with StarsEN in the past
>>114652189>ENwhats that
I hope this means they fire all the EN higher management homobeggars
>>114652286welp no streams this week
>>114652246nope, merged
former ENs can now play capcom and squeenix freely? who's going to hop on kingdom hearts first?
>>114651572>when you're not a schizo fuck your posts are left aloneMaybe you should try having an IQ above 80.
I like how there's a bunch of schizos spamming the same fucking shit over and over because they're not getting (you)s
>>114652136They're already forming the rrats kek
>>114652189>about no more EN concert next year or are we still getting one?she implied there won't be or that if there is it won't be hololive english members exclusive it will have girls from all branches
Is it really over? I have depression.
>>114652232Holy reading comprehension. Ina was talking about how the branch specific youtube channels will still exist but will be more focused on who is watching as opposed to the talents themselves. For example, the Hololive English youtube channel could feature Miko and Marine if it is english focused content. People are really bending Ina's words so they can doom post. This community is dreadful sometimes.
>>114652224went in there and checkedwhere is the doomposting
>>114652015link? I wanna see the comments
>>114652187I really don't blame her because she was the one who hold the line 6 years for Hololive EN.I would rather thank and give her respect
>>114652214go fuck yourself olliekeep sucking twitch eceleb bald rapists cock like the retard you are that surely is gonna work out
>>114652183released before the change so no
>>114650984nah but graduations probably caused it in the long run by making the branch less profitable
>>114652316they already tried that in 2023
>>114652282Yeah no no no my predictions were done thinking of them as a positive and I'm happy they're coming trueAlso I'm a fucking genius, you get this intelligence by watching streams.
Looking forward to what graduations we get out if this once the three year contracts are upIs it next year or the year after?
>>114652331aren’t jp managers bigger beggars?
>>114652012I'm not a newfag I've been here since ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER
>>114652326Except units/generations aren't going away so she is still part of Myth. You are being just as dumb as she is.
>>114652026This but an her scratcher is not gone gone. She can still use a pioneer status in hololive, it's just not as visible as it used to
Now all holochads will become beggars since all the content and stuff will be given to jp
Based towerfags shitting on mythboomers.>>114652345Maybe try reading more than one post, that's just an example when they're arguing over a bunch of stuff.
Well, I never imagined it would end like this. What now bros?
>>114652015LMAO use your own subreddit faggot
>>114652209literally 1984
>>114652321Desu enreco already was severely reduced in s3, it evidently has a lower budget than s2.
>>114652343Homobeggar...
>>114652209>Foob was the shadow manager who kept rejecting Biboo's demand for bigger boobsFBKHATE!
>>114652073Nerissa did almost a month ago
how does the new make up works? is everyone gonna have it, will they realy change the previous look? im scared
>>114652325Two members who don't stream (2 of the bottom 3 in the former EN branch by hours streamed in the last year) and one who lives in Japan and literally can't stream at EU hours, thank you Cover
So en and ID will get the homo treatment and slowly get pushed out?
>>114652187I don't get it how does some cape slop movie make you feel that
Yep here we go. The masks are cracking.
>all the members that hate the change are the ones this thread relentlessly shits on
>>114651588>watches endgame >gets sad about golden times endingYeah she's fucking GONE
So this means the old HoloJP members need to learn English right.....?
>>114652214if she hates it you know its good
>>114652400Euros love Cecilia, Raora, and ERB.
Does the whole thing meant that the JP mems will stream in english now?
I really don't care about HoloEN getting merged, it was so fucking tiring to follow any of the HoloEN girls because of all the drama and negativity that I switched to watching HoloJP years ago.
>>114652400I don't think it was Cover the one that sent Ceci's dad to the fucking hospital
>>114652401only those who does not want to move to japan
>>114652365Did the JP ones have collab streams with the homos they are managing?
>>114652189>So is this any Mori was doomposting about no more EN concert next yearThere LITERALLY can not be an EN concert because "EN" as a concept no longer exist
> that means I can watch more Pekomoon in the future.Maybe it's not bad
no but seriously why aren't there any EN in the anime? feel like they have better lore to pull from to make an anime out of
Hololive thrivingSisters crying
Yup here we go, even Mori can't stay quiet anymore
>>114652331dyrbithey're all promoted up, of course.on a serious note, regulations make it difficult to fire employees in nipland. Unfortunately, Cover (and us fans) have to live with them mooching still
>>114652255na mori was definitely implying that she was upset but putting on a positive face so her fans don't feel depressed
>>114652356>Hololive's biggest cheerleader is upset(You) aren't very smart, are you drone
>>114651631Not wrong, they said in the report the eggs are going in the popular basketsNow EN and ID don't have separate budgets or special considerations, they're just lumped together as runts and shitters in corporates eyes
>>114652410Funny how that works huh
>>114652410Mori is happy though
>>114651188Kiara isn't happy but that's because she can't fucking let go of Gura and Ame (also Mumei, etc).
>>114652380Can we address the nigger in the woodpile and just say it:It is absolutely so fucking over for you if you don't speak japanese
I don't know how to make it any clearer for people who don't get it: HOLOLIVE EN AND ID ARE DEAD. IT'S JAPAN ONLY FROM NOW ON!
>>114652410Pattern recognition always wins. It's like the entire reason we hate them is because of their negative outlook and shitty personality.
>>114652246https://x.com/juufuuteiraden/status/2096935686905778640(also make use of the opportunity to change her catchphrase)
FWMC HAVE SPOKEN
Even though EN is dead, Autofister is eternal https://x.com/gigimurin/status/2096951352236912859
>>114652321>no more en concertIt's still happening>no more enrecowould be based, fuck lyger>no more lives in western venuesstill happening>no more members not living in Japan or speaking Japanesestill happening
>>114652415>>114652420Yes but not seriously, like...JP talents will do streams in Passion Elite English since they love that shit but obviously they don't have the time nor really the need to learn English beyond A2
>>114652450Homostar*Holochads won
>>114651714Every new """english""" talent is gonna be a meloco
>>114652415>>114652420Holy fucking cope better start learning Japanese
>>114652400There has never been proof EU viewers represented any meaningful portion of Hololive’s audience. They have always been the homobeggars of Hololive. Always demanding more but never spending any money or watching streams.
>>114652471THEY ARE GOING JP-ONLY STOP FUCKING COPING RUFFIAN
>>114652471>FWMC don't have to pretend that they care about their English speaking audience nowUuhhhh BASED?
Soya bros…looks like CC will graduate and we’ll get our bean back <3
>>114652471I hope FWMC dies of cancer
>>114652156fucking hell you posted it AGAIN
>>114652232Regardless of the interpretations, this is the first time I see fans complaining about... being pandered to.
>Studio KAI, which made Sentenced to be a hero, is doing the animeKINO
>>114652311RELEASE THE AUTOFISTER BRAINWASH CRUMBS!
>>114652214Ollie can go fuck herself. I wish Kiara didn't save her in tthat minecraft stream 3 years ago. Ffs. You know how great that would've been?>no armpiss>no fliphomo>no ERB
>>114652415https://youtube.com/shorts/bL5iaHTEKfE?is=ZyegyyYu7rTCSpjL
>why aren't you including the indie grifters who left hololive>this isn't a good look
>>114652471Of course nothing changes for FWMC they were already glorified HoloJP before the disillusion
rip EN
>>114652502uh oh beggarbrown seethe
>>114652501we are so back
>>114652331They are just moved to JP, see Jap >>114652094
https://x.com/pnpnjeong/status/2096945935926648986Are Shiori and Biboo the biggest bootlickers in the company?
Eh
>>114652214Everything bad for Ollie has always been good for Hololive. I see this as a win
>>114652378we are talking about doom posts anoneven your post barely contains doom posts are you retarded
>one bad quarter and hololive panic merges ID and EN with the main branch lol lmao. this might be the first time being a public company caused a decision i dislike
>>114652126It's to consolidate resources and not have any money spread out or set aside for other branchesIt's all in the same pot now, so if you're not popular you can go fuck yourself
>>114652471Yeah I bet they love this change, now they can be on JP time all the time without catering to the non existent en branch, Larp Larp!
>>114650795But enough about the tumblr gen that flopped so hard their region doesn't even get mentioned but SEA does
bros they are doing the offpako thing
>>114652471They'll be the first to betray everything they're saying here.
>>114652500They are taking English ruffians out the back, they pledged to protect our smiles, but only if you speak japanese
We will take the Calli's fat ass but the rest of you guys will need to figure it out.
>>114652519> Ex IDHuh??
>>114652380Stars concert next year
>>114652471BAU BAU
>>114652015OH NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHA>FWMC GOT THE MODS POWER BACK!
how do I get an EN oshi now?
>>114652506And UmaMusume anime (both seasons) too
Hololive won Antis lost
>>114652481>>no more en concert>It's still happeningnope, everything else yea
>>114652398If Sora's update is representative of the changes it's a nothingburger which will take a decade to complete
AUTO TROOOOONS WON
>>114652524Nothing changes for anyone besides Kiara and homos are on their last leg also.
>>114652557>hololiverip
I think this means we're never getting English speaking talent again.
>>114652138I mean it's basically what they originally dreamed of, just being Hololive.
>>114652542What counts as doomposting to you? Because if none of that is doomposting then this thread isn't doomposting either, it's just shitposters going all out but no doomposts.
They straight up said ithttps://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/2096952901726097592
DEATH TO AMERICA GLORY TO JAPAN
>>114652582No shit
>>114652456Who can blame her in this matter?
>>114652471Based doggos
APOLOGIZE RETARDS
>>114652574
>>114652561They will protect your smile, if you speak Japanese that is
Okay but why haven’t they combined homoEN and homoJP?
The conclusion is that starsen were more profitable than holoen, despite this thread hating them.
There's a real chance they get rid of gens next and drip-feed talents one or two at a time
>>114650939Their oshi is a tranny flame them instead
>>114652450>Beggar Prime is upsetftfy
>>114652577in Japan. take it or leave it.
>>114652519>Ex IDHoly LARPer
>>114652578Sora's model was a significant upgrade.
>>114652444She makes a good pointDo branch specific perms for shit like kingdom hearts for example even exist anymore???
>>114652189Western concerts but not with guaranteed 100% participation by the former EN members. The ones who can't sing will likely be discouraged from taking concert spots (Shiori) in favor of JP or ID who can.
>>114652601Lazy white women were our downfall, as always
>>114652475too bad cecilia is dead
Okay now that the dust has settled, who won the hardest
Doomposting that is incorrect>Your favorite EN is getting graduating>Your favorite EN is only gonna speak in Japanese from now on>There won't be concerts outside of Japan anymoreDoomposting that is correct>There won't be any new primarily English chuuba.>The primary English chuuba pool can only shrink from now on.
>>114652582We will but they need to move to Japan and also speak Japanese.
>>114652471lmfao they've been waiting for this moment they must be glad there's no more en
>>114652636sex
>>114652631Nope. One branch, one perms management
Will this general die after Holo EN dies?
>>114652362yeah i thought so tooand ofc i get why Mori is doubting and how it feels a bit sad that is not "HoloEN" anymore but at the same time girl do you really want another omega-ass retard managing EN?
Let me see if I understand this right. They killed off EN and ID and they're attempting to mask it with that bullshit about the merger? Is that correct?
>>114652626It's an upgradeA significant upgrade would look more like OG IRyS vs IRyS 2.0
>>114652471its crazy how fake these shitters are granted English Ruffians if there even are any deserved this
>>114652601This still won't make them stream
>>114652640Suisei
>>114652601
>>114652575Based, so we're good
>>114652640the shareholders
>>114652640The Canadian coffee company
>>114652640Jurard
>>114652653No but tower will
>>114652439>why aren't there any EN in the anime?That cope/excuse is that the anime started production back in 2021, so it was created with the idea of being a "JP only" thingThem announcing it in the stream as the merger is just kinda tone-deaf lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCiIJJOLwGcSo since Yagoo sama took the liberty of dissolving two branches, will Risus viewership increase to JP levels? The JP fans should feel obligated to watch her now no? This is so retarded lol
>>114652641>There won't be concerts outside of Japan anymoreI would rather go to Japan more than America because it's cheaper
>>114652632>no more Shiori, Raora>get more AZKi, OkayuMassive W as far as I’m concerned
>>114652656Yep
>>114652640justice since they're the last gen
>>114652641We might get gens with bilingual girls that will stream in English every once in a while now
>>114652246Dev_is is gone. Flow Glow and ReGloss names remain for the gens. They are defacto JP 7 and 8 even though that doesn't mean anything anymore. Every new Gen will just have a name no more numbers or psuedo-numbers.
>>114652590I think you can't read, brownpedo
>>114652640Advent
>>114652682Reminder HoloIDs avarage ccv is significantly higher than phase's
>>114652696Yes, that's why I said "primarily English". We might get a new Fuwamoco/IRyS but with the caveat that they will stream in Japanese at least 80% of the time.
>>114652653>Thread's sweethearts: Biboo, IRyS, GGThat's 2/3 JP. This will survive
Mori is happy, Ollie is mad. Who was already big will get bigger, who was struggling will struggle harder.
Anime will be on TV, fucking based
>>114652589just read this thread anon, here are some few examples>>114650661>>114650741>>114650784>>114650832>>114650834
>no more ENreco slop taking away a week of streamsI won
>>114652292Have been for a year.
>>114652640holoID
meanwhilehttps://x.com/Vtuber_Expo/status/2096946780600479758
>>114652640>who won the hardestUnironically ID and Dev_IS No more debuff from their weird labeling
>>114652653vt should die and get merged into jp
I’m guessing Raora won? I hope.
>>114652696i don't think that will happen but i really hope it does. my ass is not learning japanese to watch anime women yap and be bad at games
does cover really think doing this shit will boost ID and En's numbers? japs wont magically start watching raora or kiara now
>>114652678Or they made Gura the lead of the EN-centric episodes and had to cut a significant portion of what they already produced.
>>114652659>OG IRyS vs IRyS 2.0did (You) really have to remind me of that fucking sabotagenow I am mad again
>>114652328>LiveEN probably had to share managers with StarsEN in the pastyeah sis that's why is a good thinghell i bet one of the reasons for the merge is exactly because of those retards messing hings up for the girls
>>114651686I mean we hate LGBT here
>>114652730Mori is not happy, though. She's coping but not buying her own bullshit.
>>114652746WHO? x5
>>114652292>now
>>114652640Flow Glow and ReGloss. Maybe FWMC/IRyS/Bae
https://x.com/suisei_submati/status/2096942763095056526kekaroo this bitch is really rubbing it off the holofans
https://x.com/kureijiollie/status/2096950385483411776Someone is upset
>>114652746DOA
This is the happiest day of my life.
>>114651603You're going to have to be specific, there's more than one Biboo schizo
Odds of Saba return after this news?
>>114652730Ollie is not mad because of anything Hololive related.
Iofi is streaming and only saying positive things btwOllie is probably doomposting because of autism
>>114652640Hololive
>>114652761.....actually yes.... looks at Anya case when she pander to Japanese and not Indonesian.
Mori said Raku is amazing
>>114652739You can literally find posts like that over there with the talk of no new ENsAlthough obviously nothing on the level of "banishment room" and "leave the global market" because that's retarded
>>114652640ID won pretty hard now that they don’t have to associate with SEA anymore
>>114652745>>114652821>ID>won>when every member of it is upset
>>114652793oh shit shes finna go nuclear
>>114652682just look at IniID and KR post merge to have an idea.
>>114652776This. She's still holding out for a "EN" gen whatever that is.
>>114652723we hate gigi here
>>114652730>Mori is happyNo, she's trying really hard to pretend she's happy.
>>114652795buy an ad
Most EN and ID fans aren't very enthusiastic about this, Cover fucked up
>>114652723When did >we care about IRyS?
>>114652640Hololive ID and EN
>>114652795Realistic take
>>114652824Why are they upset?
>>114652730Mori's just being a good trooper I doubt she's happy. She's locked into the UMG deal and thus locked into the Mori persona and Cover. Kiara can be publicly angry because she's probably not 100% committed to staying.
>>114652421based helmite
>>114652816>Rakuthat's a male...
>>114652819No you said that>They're going way harder than we arewhen they are clearly not
>>114652815Explains why she finally moved to Japan recently. She knows that anyone not in Japan is not getting anything at all moving forward. And even then, EN and ID in Japan still have less chance then original Japanese members, but at least they'd better than the overseas talents who have no hope left now.
>>114652640
/vt/ back status? Tower is DEAD HAHAHAHAHA
>>114652824I mean they just got dissolved after working hard for years. I'd be fucking pissed too.
>>114652582
>>114652730it's the saltiest cope in the timeline
>>114652816
>gura mumei fauna and ame didn't want to be second class citizens to jp so they quitAPOLOGIZE
>>114652793Caring this much about removing two letters from your social media handles while your entire country is actually getting smoked and rolled by mother nature is a choice.
I only glanced at the thread and thought this was all just some speculation based on some retarded Mori tweet but they actually said fuck it and just merged them all lmao
the merge is a shareholder decision that's why it got a mixed reaction from every holomem. what happenes to holo NEXT (heh) would be fascinating to see.
>>114652869they are literally peeling through 1500 threads anonare you okay
>Gigi is the last bastion for English speakers in HololivePossibly the only member in Hololive that doesn't give a shit to learn JP despite these changes
>>114652220Kiara apparently liked his tweet shitting on cover and saying dumb shit. Nigga deleted his tweet.Kiara might unironically pull a Selen on cover
>>114652762>Or they made Gura the lead of the EN-centric episodesVERY optimistic of you to think Cover circa 2021 would be an EN in a position of notoriety of like thatI remember singing the theme to HoloALT, not even appearing mind you, just singing it, felt like fucking earth shattering news
>>114652888BASED BASED BASED
Ollie’s only upset the homos are deader than ever
>>114652862Okay I see what you mean. I dismiss most posts in this thread as nijifag and phasefag shitposts so I take slightly negative posts over there more seriously than the full out retarded grudgeposts on this end.
>>114652879>no male or female distinctionHOLOSTARS ID??
>>114652865Anonchama...you should know this merger happens to fix that shit and allocate resources more equality right?
Aqua won
Umm correct me if i am wrong but didn't the girls like mori don't want a new gen?
>>114652795We are SO getting Soya back! /lig/gers won kek
Should have made more money en bros
>You guys are just being schizos. Redditowa would never think like you.Brother, I'm sorry, but everyone that isn't coping hard can tell what's going on.
>>114652795IT'S FUCKING OVER FOR ID
>>114652774What's Korean man's thoughts on this?
Shion yo...
What's the merge for if the upcoming anime doesn't include the (ex) ID and EN girls?
>>114652519He's talking about the current ENs and IDs because EN and ID doesn't exist anymore, retard.
>>114652454she's neutral at best, she knows japanese retardation but she also knows if they do their work properly thing will definitely improve
>>114652908this nigga went on a fucking RAMPAGE on my TL but of course that's the one tweet I missed
>>114652824>when every member of it is upsetIofi and Anya aren't, at least
>>114652935Good that’s extremely reassuring for me unironically
>>114652730>Mori is happylmaooooooo
>Literally the only reason some people are wary of the merger are because of NijiID and NijiKR>The only reason people were wary of MekPark was because of MekPark>The only reason a HomoEN exists in the first place? LuxiemGod I'm so fucking tired of these subhumans ruining everything
https://x.com/kureijiollie/status/2096950385483411776https://x.com/kureijiollie/status/2096950385483411776https://x.com/kureijiollie/status/2096950385483411776
>>114652910saar pls make use of the AI translationers because I can't understand what you're trying to say
>>114652908Kiara is too much of an egomaniac to commit suicide. She'll graduate and shit talk hololive how she was mistreated and all that jazz while being able to purchase land and a house with multiple vacations a year.
Remember when Power Rangers got canceled and Super Sentai fans rejoiced?
I think the reason the ENs and IDs aren't angry is about this is because they don't understand what's really going on.
Yuy won.
>>114652122All designs will now be soulless and mamas and papas are a thing of the pastDying fucking culture, man
>>114652917>no male or female distinctionAbout that...
>>114652869this is the age of INDIES
>>114651749Actually makes sense cause the key visual and refsheet model looks to smaller and more cutesy just like she always wanted
>anime likely will focus on gen 5 as the main charactersabsolute bullshit and another example of how Myth keeps getting fucked over until holoEN itself is now dead even though Myth has actual lore to base an anime off compared to whatever retarded settings gen 5 gave themselves
When even Towa can tell what's going on, you have no excuse, to be honest.
Im not even going to lie i fucking hate this move this rips part of the SOUL out of holo
Mori's post is important. Please read it.
>>114652601>lazy grifter quittersYuck! Good riddance whores.
>>114652959>The only reason people were wary of MekPark was because of VTAGoddammit I can't write anything
>>114652869>Tower is DEADThey just had like 4 back-to-back-to-back-to-back 1500 threads within the hour
>>114652955same lmao hopefully its just ollie who goes
>>114652930>KFP hivemind>Kiara is being an outright Holo antiI don’t see why I should be surprised global isn’t happy. They have never hidden their contempt for some parts of hololive
How do Holokeks manage to lose this hard?
>>114652992who is holoEN? Nobody got fucked over in this Hololive won!
He was right all along
>Hololive gen 0 > Hololive gen 0>Hololive gen 1 > Hololive gen 1>Hololive gen 2 > Hololive gen 2>Hololive gen 3 Hololive Fantasy > Hololive gen 3 Hololive Fantasy>Hololive gen 4 Holoforce > Hololive gen 4 Holoforce>Hololive ID 1 > Hololive gen 5 Area15>Hololive gen 5 NePoLaBo (Originally Holofive) > Hololive gen 6 NePoLaBo>Hololive English Myth > Hololive gen 7 Myth>Hololive ID 2 Hololoro > Hololive gen 8 Hololoro>Hololive English Singer IRyS >No>Hololive English Promise (originally Council + IRyS) > Hololive gen 9 Promise>Hololive Holox > Hololive gen 10 HoloX>Hololive ID 3 HoloH3ro > Hololive gen 11 HoloH3ro>Hololive English Advent > Hololive gen 12 Advent>Hololive Dev_Is Regloss > Hololive gen 13 Regloss>Hololive English Justice > Hololive gen 14 Justice>Hololive Dev_is Flowglow > Hololive gen 15 FlowGlow
[Important]Kaela says there are no gens anymore, only units
>>114652998Company-approved cope post>>114653010The part that gets undue favoritism just because they're Japanese, why wouldn't anyone have contempt for them?
>>114652640DEV_IS since they're no longer "second-class Holocitizens" they basically got promoted into full-fledged Hologirls
>>114652959Holo copying Anycolor, nothing new
https://x.com/shiba_tsukune/status/2096950436888813634wait a minute, so this new Sora is not designed by Amagai Taro anymore? no wonder why she looks fucking different! it's a complete redesign, not just a visual overhaul!
>>114653022Same thing
I'm not going to lie, I'm really PISSED off right now.
>>114653002One /#/ SEA poster could samefag without cooldown and get better numbers than that you fucking dumb retard
>>114652923You are wrong. You're welcome.
>>114652921If you fully trust corporate speak maybe. In reality mergers almost always are so the company can cut funding for some branches without actually shuttering them. Now all investments they give to Japanese members is technically labeled as an investment into all of hololive so no one can complain when they keep getting passed over by Japanese membership for the JP members they know. With separate branches there was at least some incentive and pressure for cover to give EN and ID some specific opportunities like the yearly EN concerts and the ID cruise tour concerts + that big ID concert they did. I imagine none of that is happening ever again now that everyone is mixed together. At most we'll get a small world tour of mostly jp members with some en and id sprinkles that go to a few conventions a year.
>>114652908What is it with deadbeats and otomos?So they hate each other like their oshi's hate each other?
>>114652774Korean man is coping hard lol
>>114653015Kiara wasn't there for "hand out half the tickets for free and still be empty: the concert"
>>114653041Just suck my dick Kobo! Youll feel good
>>114652963It's 6am and I haven't slept nigger, sorry for not spell checking on /schizo containment/ general on this dying shitheap of a board smd
>>114652998Can I get some of that copium mori? It must be some rel good shit
>>114652938Positive, no doomposting
Hope you enjoyed the last year of kronii having big tits
>>114653002maybe because of the news? retard
>>114653038she looks fat now
>>114652908Please do this it would be so funny
>>114653068she's graduating too lol
>>114652018Justice was there before they left, retard
Kiara's post is important. Please read it.
Was this REALLY surprising after every fucking time they debuted ENs they stopped streaming, moved their stream times to dogshit time zones for western audiences, moved to Japan, or collabed primarily with ENs? Why even have a western branch if your own talents won't act like they're a part of it in the first place?
>>114653015XHe doesn't know what gender xhe is
>>114652998Both Mori and Nerissa retweeted it
>>114652992I hope so the fucking Gen 5 tranny will have a meltdown
>>114652492If EU viewers wanted content in their timezone they should have gotten Kiara to two million subs already.Her German channel debut should have had 75K CCV at peak and the chat absolutely full of grey kraut.
Retards think FWMC, Bae and IRyS will jump ship to cater to Nips when they get mogged by fucking Raora of all people during JP primetime. The rest of the JP fanbase will be watching other JP members. Nobody wants to watch budget knockoff JP from Temu. At the end of the day JP fanbase dgaf about EN streams even if they speak 99% Japanese, they just care about their music and collabs sometimes.
>>114652887Korean man is trying his best to cope kek
>justice troons killed Hololive ENevery time
Risu, show us a sign when you read this thread. I know I can count on you.
>this thread suddenly cares about Ollie and KiaraSo you guys are upset that they might graduate over this?
>>114653098who are the troons in question?
>>114653080what binging capeshit does to a person
>>114653091Crazy how wrong this post is
If the Indie Avengers officially banded together, they would automatically be the biggest EN Vtuber group in the world
>>114653080I don't get why she's so opposed to this, does she really hate JPs that much?
>>114653102You're naive if you think they're the only ones, all of EN and ID are basically gone now since Cover cut support for them.
>>114653047Actually, you're not trolling when you say that these people don't watch streams
>>114652900Yeah but she's also a LGBT yurifaggot so
>>114653102Kiara is never fucking leaving after Halfsold SerenadeOllie is not mad about anything Hololive related she's most definetly mad about her butt buddies getting treated like less than employees
>>114653083>moved their stream times to dogshit time zones for western audiences, moved to JapanAnon... These were obviously cover incentivizing them to do this. The same cover that decided to kill EN now for the same exact reason. You're justifying their shit with other shit they did.
>>114653047Who will be the 5th member of the new unit?
>>114652989>the age of indies>nobody cares about daily google dockeys>only hololive news revive the board
>>114653020I didn't know 4 was "Holoforce"
>>114653080She spent all these years trying to sabotage EN by insisting on EU friendly branch events and this year going as far as to overlap a US event; now she wants to pretend she cares about it?
>>114653102they only thing this thread has ever cared about for those two is when are they graduating
>>114653102I would throw a party lmfao
>>114653102Ignore the discord raid. Real numberCHADS hate Ollie and Kiara.
>>114652404>up to endgame is good>after endgame is corpo forced slop
>>114653120Yeah I'm sure FWMC are very upset retard
what is sameko saba up to right now anyway?
>>114652420Give me English Noel
>>114653120This is hololive, not your black ass Nijisanji
Reminder: The nail that sticks out, get's hammered down. This is ESPECIALLY true for Japanese companies. So think twice before melting down on Twitter.
>>114652545When you're an executive you need to show decisive action.This wouldn't have happened if Serendipity did gang busters. ID would have been merged but EN could have kept its footing. But all the EN fans had to be split between Densetsu Anew and Halfsold Serenade.
JUSTICE KILLED HOLOEN LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
>>114652998>international memberswe don't have "international" members here mori only hololive members
>>114653054no she was there for the most kino vtuber concert of the year that instantly sold out of merch
What killed Hololive EN, Serendipity, Justice or Gura?
>>114653083Bro get some sleep.
so...no more EN gold ?
almost any discussion about the merge everywhere is through the lens of nijisanji merge situation man jfc...I really dont get why ppl compare these two when Homos are still there, if they were like nijisanji homos would've been canned 4 years ago, including the EN ones
Okay let’s assemble a list of all the holos that hate this new change.>Kiara>Mori>Ollie>Reine>RisuNotice a pattern forming?
>>114653113Wrong. People are upset about the HoloEN thing because they care. Nobody gives a shit about indie vtubers. Maybe they can start a fansly.
>>114652998does anyone have a positive tone about this (not including some management bootlicker like Fubuki)? Ollie is openly doomposting
>>114652857They have spent years building their branch and culture for the region and now it's entirely erased and thrown into a massive hololive pile with no uniqueness? It means they are never getting any more ID specific events or marketing or anything because it's all washed away and blended into the one size fits all corporate nightmare?
>>114653162serendipity
>>114653162was Serendipity really such a flop?
>>114653137Oh you sweet child. I joined when Holoforce just debuted. Great time. They stopped using the name a long time ago. You rarely hear it now
So phase wins just like that? Theor the only en based corpo now.
>>114653181Mori and Risu haven't said anything nigga
>>114653112Go look at recent stream numbers where their streams overlap then, I thought this was /#/.
>>114653162HoloEarth
Um guys, everyone is laughing at you.
>>114653038https://x.com/ordan/status/2096954359284461988meh still him. i kinda miss his older style though
>>114653179>almost any discussion about the merge everywhere is through the lens of nijisanji merge situation man jfc...No one here is talking about niji but you. If you think we know there won't be any new English speakers because of that irrelevant company, you're stupid.
>>114653189>was Serendipity really such a flop?Yeah it was
The ungrateful ID shitters do fuck all now they are part of the main branch and they still bitch and moan like they have any right to do so, bunch of parasites, just let those monkeys go.
>>114653091Nigga you are retarded, FWMC have been EN in name only for a long while right now, they cater to the japs, and now they'll go full JP
>sappy diatribe about the end of HoloEN and moving forward >Next post is a joke about pandering to JP brosKek, Mori can be really if she puts her heart into it
>>114653038https://x.com/ordan/status/2096954359284461988
Saba if you’re reading this, NOW is the time to return with Dooby.
There is no more hololive ID or ENOnly a Greater Cover Co Prosperity Sphere
>>114653192>You rarely hear it nowmore like never...
>>114653181Mori likes it
>>114653161>58 likes LMAO
SEVERAL YEARS implies a long time, meaning talents are here to stay
>>114653179it's not gonna be possible to have a conversation about it without it being pushed through that lense sorry anon, especially not /here/ of all places
>>114653186A branch and culture of fucking homocollabing, dude.
>>114652601>left to get married>drunk in a fjord somewhere>tummy hort, dog hort, family hort, internet hort>literally left a 6 figure job to join a zoo funded by taxpayer moneyThey were holding EN back.
>>114653186What you are describing is literally a good thing. No one cares about SEA and>HoloID>years building their branch and culture Lmao
>>114653115> does she really hate JPs that much?All her bad time (i.e: her entire flesh idol venture or when her RM was groped) happened in JP so you tell meMore importantly, she already moved away from JP (and won't be back due to her cats) so it'll feel like she made a mistake if suddenly their identities are grouped up with JP
Holo boys won.
Global tourists spamming their Kiara tweets not realizing her discontent is proof this is a good thing
>>114653102We feel emphasized to them
Ernoul isn't happy. In the end he was always EN's strongest soldier. Props to him for sticking to his beliefs.
>>114653155BLOODRAVEN FAGGOTS IN SHAMBLES
>IDs won't get more viewersSo that was a fucking lie. Iofi is mogging Phase numbers and she's the least popular holo.
>>114653249Demo is all that they'll get btw
>>114653162you failed to replace Gura Bibot, so now the face of your branch is Sakura Miko!
>>114653245lmao so it boils down to ME ME ME
>>114653162EN market
>>114653232They're probably going to time it to anniversaries and big projects and stuff
>>114653215>parasitesEN can go too since some of them has some to say
>>114653179because it's a shareholder decision, and you know how they usually go.
>>114653249>Holostars got a sneak peek at HoloraiburakuOH nononono KEKEKEKEKEKEKEEK
>>114653137Ohhhh young one....
>>114653162Trump, unironically
>>114653217Mori isn't dooming she is hope posting about the fucked up perms situation
>>114653102What are you talking about? Every damn thread is about Kiara, even when she doesn't say or do anything.
>>114653289how?
>>114653255Weakest grem
>>114653245Does she think Hololive is like that? That is her view of what Hololive means? With talents like that, who needs antis?
does the jps have KH perms?
>Fail to get into JP several times>Join EN instead>Wormtongue YAGOO into merging the branches>You are now in JPZOZZLED
Biboo is still the face of EN I don’t care
>>114653232? That's a dumb way of interpreting that line.They can simply just don't update any leaving talent and that's that
>>114653289Thank you Emperor Trump
The biggest question is>who will change their youtube handle firstWe know Nerissa removed >Hololive EnglishFrom her twitter a month ago. Will she also change her youtube handle?
This explains why Matsuri was being extra nice to Raora and wanting to meet up irl
>>114653189yup
Not like this holobros.. this one's for youhttps://youtu.be/yfL6xHiCCDw
>>114653293what perms is she even talking about? she plays everything she wants to
>>114653304Jacking up tariffs and ruining overseas merch sales
>>114653162EN audience don't buy merch enough
>>114653314If they switch to JP only I will kneel so fucking har
>>114653315>the face of nothing
>>114653162I blame Biboo and her bots
alright enough shitposting someone lay out a proper pros and cons list for this merger
>>114653162the sinking yen
>>114653219>Saba stop being lazy>Dooby stop being a drug addict Not happening those two are fucked in the head forever and won't stream.
>>114653212>No one here is talking about niji but youi said everywhere not just here you stupid retard, also>no one here is talking about nijiyou're free to scroll up
>>114653289My President
>>114653232why are you posting this literal nobody
>>114653162GG
>>114653350This but unironically
The synthesis of the absurd and idiotic seethe about the stream can be boiled down to this
>>114653179It’s completely different when cover just rebrand them into one branch, not cut the other branches >>114652879The only difference here is that homo is truly gone now
>>114653245Kiara has been whining and complaining since day 1 and can't go one stream without being negative If she fucked off and went indie she'd whine about people fucking off if she experienced the ccv shrinkage that all exholos experienced. And would probably go on suicide watch.
>>114653245Her EN daisenpai status lobstered. She stuck it out in the EU and with each announcement it seems like her bet to stay in Europe instead of just moving to Japan when she had the chance backfired. Vexpo and or Cover did not believe in her enough to invite her to con and somehow Bae of all people is performing there instead of ERB or the other Euros.
when can holoEN go back to playing actually good games?
>>114653267When it comes to someone's career, everything boils down to just "ME ME ME" (and it should). Do you really think any other Holo member thought about "What will this do to other girls" instead of "What will this do to me" when they first received the news?
JUST WOKE UPAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>114653293>Work for a company for six years>Still don't understand how your own companies perms workThis retard...
>w-were all one hololive >Well collab more with our senpai >Except those streams will primarily be in JP because the JPs do not give a single actual fuck about learning English unlike vice versa T-thamks
>>114653162I'm so fucking depressed, I'm on the verge of crying.
>>114653352Pros: Game permsCons: Everything else
>>114653215 I actually like this.
>>114653352Cons>There won't be any new primarily English speaking talent ever again>The pool of primarily English speaking talent will only shrink from now on
>>114652328>did they even/ever have enough english speakers to rotate in the first place?Yeah you would hear about it occasionally, older managers either got promoted to hire positions or got swapped to newer girls, and the older girls were basically tasked with "Breaking in" new managers So for example Kiara's old manager got promoted and Ame's old manager become Shiori's manager
>>114652887Footcam1I'm all in on the new tech
Has GG said anything yet? I have a feeling she’ll go nuclear- worse than Kiara’s reaction. She is probably so mad.
>>114653375can one of you fags reply and say they were never part of hololive
>>114653264Go fuck yourself Donie
>>114653397Takes your meds.
>>114653315takamori are the face of EN
>>114653315What is EN?
>>114652653No, honestly this feels like a Twitter to X situation where every person in the world still calls it Twitter and posts as tweets.
>>114653357Wouldn't that be GOOD for the EN branch?
>>114653350>>114653374>>114653416
>>114653394>>114653334To be fair, I do remember IRyS couldn't play a few (very few) games due to perm, yet JP could just fine since they have different perm lists.Knowing IRyS, it could've been just her, though
>>114653429autofistertroons are so cringe
>>114653234i know this place is a lost cause but i didn't expect ppl outside to make it about Nijisanji when you can see how homos still have a motherfucking concert next year, and how they got a free oneLike how in the fuck you compare this to Nijisanji who basically forgot about lazulight's merch entirely
>>114653334Certain perms are EN/JP. Biboo's and Bae's Jojo watchalongs were lost because of this exact bullshittery by having branch distinctions.
>>114653343I wonder what would happen if Cover were to adapt their prices for the western market instead of überNEET otakus who are used to get fleeced. >>114653330For me it's unter deinem schirmen
>>114653414??? All the girls knew about this well in advance to today retard in fact I bet she already changed get twitter
you can do it, kiaraschizo.GO GO GO
Kiara was never daisenpai, why are idiots trying this angle so hard?
>>114653414>Has GG said anything yet?Yeah she said "Yo losers stop bitching and crying I'm here with my GF now fuck off"
BETTER BOOT UP THOSE ANKI FLASHCARD RUFFIANS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>114653228Mori copes hard with it
>>114653223hirohito wet dream came true...
https://twitter.com/shiba_tsukune/status/2096950436888813634>Sora's 3D model creation was assisted by Choco's modelerNo wonder her boobs are closing in on Noel's size.
On days like this, I'm glad Kiara is still with Hololive
En5... the dream is dead...
>>114653375Because they're not Hololive
>>114653352ConsNo more EN events, full EN concerts, new GensPros?? Perms maybe?More money for shareholders by saving on staff costs
Kiaraschizo is KING. I KNEEL
>>114653394ofc monkey #2138712875 from this thread knows better...
>>114653474HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>114653474>already begging for jp viewers
>>114653429Cecilia looked at her for several seconds, and the expression on her face became painfully fragile again. It was almost embarrassing, how quickly she could go from laughing to crying, but Gigi didn't react with surprise anymore. She had already understood that tonight Cecilia's emotions weren't moving in a straight line, and there was no point expecting them to. They were simply arriving, one after another, asking to be felt before they moved on.Gigi: "Let's try to sleep, okay?"Ceci: "are...are you going to sleep with me?"Gigi: "W-well, not really...the parking expenses would KILL me...but...""Here is what I'm going to do.""I'm going to...undo your bed."Ceci: "Mhm."Gigi: "See that you enter..."Ceci: "Okay, I'm...entering."Gigi: "And whisper right this on your ear as you close your eyes."Ceci: "What are you going to whisper...?"..."You are the best thing that happened to me.""I'll stay by your side, for as long as you need me, and if you don't need me anymore...""I'll be happy I loved you as much as I could.""I know how it is, I had it happen to me before, but it would be...stupid of me to try and act like our pain is the same, I don't want to be condescending.""I just want to tell you I love you.""I love you and...I wish you the best."
Maybe EN fans are just poor compared to other fan bases
>>114653384merge good glory to Cover btw
>>114653447Yes the perms are [branch x location]. ENs in Japan did not have the same perms as JPs in Japan or ENs outside of Japan. It was a completely retarded system.
Remember when >we thought we were getting EN5 at the end of Skibby?
No one in ID is gonna leave because where the fuck are they gonna go but I except an exodus of EN girls in 2027.
>>114653483We didn't know that EN was dead, were we really that naive and blind?
>>114653071>declaring /vt/ as "back" despite the fact the uptick in PPM is due to the news>Tower being much faster because of the news doesn't count???
i thought they were going to announce EN5 with filian as the gen leader, what the fuck am i going to do now???
Literally only did this shit to hide EN/ID numbers in the IR report
Honestly looking at the EN talent pool outside of hololive it was already slim pickings it just means if you want your 2view to succeed better groom her into learning Japanese
>>114653503>This thread suddenly likes Kiara
TRVKE
>>114652908Kiara: everyone in EN should learn to speak jpEveryone else "good idea!", moves to japan and gets called in for the jobs Kiara used to get flown in for.Kiara: no, not like that!Cover: everyone is Hololive now!Everyone that moved: yes we are japan too!Kiara stuck in EU: Fuck!
>>114653510after every event*
>>114653179When Niji ID and KR got merged into the main branch, only 1 talent got canned (a KR talent highly suspected of manipulating the old KR management). The other livers did not get canned.
>>114653483>Bunch of whoresDodge several bullets
>>114653522They never fucking showed them ever
>>114653474They aren't even trying to hide it LMAO
>>114653528KIARA IS GRADUATING
>>114653513But why? This isn't like the homo situation where Cover doesn't give a shit about you and wants you to die. The fact that we won't get any new ENs means that the ENs that stay will be far more valuable than they are at the moment if anyone else leaves.
>>114653474THEY ARE FUCKING RAPING US EN-RUFFIANS, THEY ARE GOING FULL JAPS ITS OVER
>>114653426>>114653347kek
Europe killed EN kekaroo
>>114653495I don't like Mori, and this is true
>>114653524>Honestly looking at the EN talent pool outside of hololive it was already slim pickingsThat's the indies fault. If they weren't so shit western vtubers wouldn't be dying this fucking hard lmao
>>114653518SelenStarmin is lonely
>>114653544Based if true
she won, it's plain and simple, the branch couldn't do it without her, meanwhile her fellow avengers are getting multiple concerts/sololives per year and getting better merch deals without issue
>>114653352Pros>bigger resource allocation>shared budgets for overseas concerts, with more JP participation>more cohesion>more opportunities for non-JPs>able to enroll non jps, non en, non id's in to the program (like gooks, spics, etc.)>one Hololive culture>Less forced participation>more jp collabs>more specialized units (really hoping for an gamers 2.0>no more shitty box stuff like EnrecoCons>shared budget>able to enroll non jps, non en, non id's in to the program (flips, jeets, africans)>one Hololive culture also includes ID shitters like Ollie>less EN only boxgames/collabs>more ID collabs with shitters like Ollie
Give it to me straight, are we never getting a gen/unit consisting of 3-5 mainly English speaking members ever again?
>>114653474NOT EVEN 15 DAMN MINUTES, FUCK YOU FWMC!
>>114653461My little sister is screaming like a little shit being giddy after I showed her this (and she has no idea Bout the branch thingy), so it worked
>>114653528IT'S OVER YOU HEAR ME, ITS OVER, ENBROS ARE GETTING RAPED WE ARE GOING INDIE FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>114653571100% no. It's over.
>>114652620And with half the ens replaced by JPs or overshadowed kek
>>114652640I feel kinda sorry for the MekPark girls, as they will have someone else debut ahead of them
HomoCHADS status?
OK, THE SANA CORPSE CULT IS CRAZY; I CAN'T WATCH THIS ANYMORE. MOVE ON NIGGERS
>>114653513If any of the IDs outside of Reine are leaving they are beyond retarded considering the state of their country because they aren't going to get a better job than staying home and streaming.
>>114653474pathetic
>>114653507This now eliminates it.This is literally like Renaming Microsoft Notepad to Windows Notepad. Or Lenovo ThinkPad from IBM ThinkPad.
>>114653474good god, not even trying to hide the fact that they want JPruffians instead of EOPs...
>>114653414GG said a couple weeks ago that she was considering to move to Japan
https://x.com/akuBearuaNK/status/2096936153274531975Moona post
>>114653474THE JP TWEET NOW HAS MORE LIKES THAN THE EN ONEOH NO NO NO
>>114653571Maybe 7 years from now when Cover backtracks on this
>>114653570>>no more shitty box stuff like EnrecoHahahahaha fuck no, you're getting ENReco BUT WITH JPS AND IDS
are gen names changing too?
>>114653474>bau bau
>>114653513Michi got a drastic increase in CCV by going indie (from 3views to solid 3K-5K average CCV depends on the month). HoloID can do that, too
>>114653568>comes back a phase invaderH-hah y-yeah she won...
>>114653596Literally blame Mori
>>114653474I'm glad I never understood their appeal
>>114653015Please buy an ad you retard
Yuy recently said she had her reasons for not applying. She KNEW keeeeeek indies won
>>114653474FUCK YOU FWMC, THEY ONLY PROTECT THE SMILES OF FUCKING JAPANESE CHING CHONGS FUCK YOU
>>114653528Of course it's that retard lunchbox
The posters who said that ID and EN were next after the homos got cut were right and deserve an apology.Holostars got forced to debase themselves publicly or quit with face. The IDs and EN face the same choice but with more buzzword bingo smokescreen. Cover is failing and has to cut back, hard.Pray they don't cut even more.
>>114653571Forget units/gens. We are never getting a single more primarily English speaking holo ever again.
>>114653474Oh Fuwamoco their JP larp finally paid up after 20 years, remarkable
>>114652454Mori is trying to make the best of it and spin it to positives She already said she's not protesting shit anymore and will just look at the bright side of things (meaning she's gonna huff opium straight out the can)
Look like HomoJP fan are doomposting
ACK!RORA isnt worth talking about but is anyone from Unit B making it to Holo proper after this latest news?
>>114653474I was right >>114652561
>>114653595NOT MERGED
>>114653618Don't you mean バウバウ
>>114653595dead >>114652879
>>114653571At best you can get a 3 EN + 2 IDs/JPs gen of 5 total members, but most likely it'll be 2 ID 2 EN 1 JP
At least my EN merch has now gone up in value
>>114653617No they are staying the same FBK just wants to workshop JP gen names since it was always numerical before Myth came along.
>>114653571Seems unlikely but not outright impossible. But since everything is just Hololive imagine the disappointment if a Gen of "Hololive" is announced and none of them are Japanese. You see the problem?
FWMC fucking HATE EN fans
>>114653605THEY ARE RAPING ENRUFFIANS ITS OVER YOU HEAR ME ITS FUCKING OVER, FUCK FUWAMOCOA
>>114653571not even this new unit is 5 members kek. based on the trailer, Asobi will debut as 4 people.
>GONNA be honest>I was not into Sana, more into Kiara>bought this second-hand
>>114653649Literally every single member is making it to Hololive the requirements were absurdly easy
>>114653597What if they already have enough money saved in the bank that they can just chill and retire early now? Just find someone with average / above average salary.
>>114653610we dont care about married women
Why do all retards here ignoring that they still have open audition for en talent and there are still en talent tab in talent page?
Give me any reason why cover staff will choose EN or ID talents over JP ones for anything with this change? I assume they're cutting all EN/ID specific management and there's no longer branch independence so why choose those runts when homegrown JP is available? The model is built on the assumption that Japanese paper pushers will not show any favoritism to Japanese members over foreigners.
>>114653596Stop posting this retard or buy an ad gook
>>114653474>Translate from Japanese
>>114653474>FWMC still making /vt/ browns seetheBAUSED honestly
>>114653660>but most likely it'll be 2 ID 2 EN 1 JPlmfao dyrbiIt will be 3 JPs, 1 "ID" (JP) and 1 "EN" (JP)
>/#/ schizos right againIt just doesn’t stop
Liz’s latest tweets.She changed the EN in her into a little angry face.ONLY THE WORST HOLOS ARE MAD AT THIS
>>114653020I can't believe forgot gamers>>Hololive gen 0 > Hololive gen 0>>Hololive gen 1 > Hololive gen 1>>Hololive gen 2 > Hololive gen 2>Hololive Gamers > Hololive gen 2.5 Gamers>>Hololive gen 3 Hololive Fantasy > Hololive gen 3 Hololive Fantasy>>Hololive gen 4 Holoforce > Hololive gen 4 Holoforce>>Hololive ID 1 > Hololive gen 5 Area15>>Hololive gen 5 NePoLaBo (Originally Holofive) > Hololive gen 6 NePoLaBo>>Hololive English Myth > Hololive gen 7 Myth>>Hololive ID 2 Hololoro > Hololive gen 8 Hololoro>>Hololive English Singer IRyS >>No>>Hololive English Promise (originally Council + IRyS) > Hololive gen 9 Promise>>Hololive Holox > Hololive gen 10 HoloX>>Hololive ID 3 HoloH3ro > Hololive gen 11 HoloH3ro>>Hololive English Advent > Hololive gen 12 Advent>>Hololive Dev_Is Regloss > Hololive gen 13 Regloss>>Hololive English Justice > Hololive gen 14 Justice>>Hololive Dev_is Flowglow > Hololive gen 15 FlowGlow
>>114653672Stop posting this ugly gook
>>114653162If I am being honest. The US Policy killed any kind of growth they could have had
>114653474Wow the samefagging on this post is insane
>>114653623I am
>>114653664>since it was always numerical before Myth came alongholoForce? holoFantasy?
>>114653648>Lauren_funnowThat doesn't sound like a Japanese name
>>114653684Because most of these are Holoantis trying to spin a good thing as bad.
>>114653474>JP MINNASAMA WE ARE NO LONGER EN>YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>114653665they'll gonna say "New EN unit for Hololive!" and call it the day
>>114653709No that angry little face was there since she changed her name from ERB to Elizabeth blahblahblah
>>114653620In theory in practice it's very hard. Michi got carried hard by Vshojo and Numi and being integrated to the twitch vtuber clique. There's no guarantee of success for say, Iofi or Anya.
Peko won.
>>114651787lmao this tactical image cropping
Vivi status?
>>114653709ERB OUT FINALLY
>>114653391>What will this do to me"if she asked that question, she should know that it would be probably better for her, no? cause she can cater to the JP fanbase. or does she have a project to have a local EU branch? and if that's the case it's a me me me moment and I understand why she's so defiant
>>114653648How are they so slow on the uptake. Cover telling them all their resources are gone was Cover telling the homos please leave as soon as possible. Those that graduated after the announcement had some pride the ones that stayed are weak
It's so fucking over en-ruffian bros, we are cooked.Bau bau...
>>114653474they're telling the japs they have to become ruffians now.
>>114653709what is there to be mad about? literally what's changing for her?
>cover couldn’t even be fucked to merge the homoJP and HomoENs Good or bad?
When will they merge Stars into the main branch? Stars are hololive too.
>>114653474This is so gross lol. People call IRyS the dummy of EN yet shes one of the only ones who has at least has enough dignity not to do shit like this.
>>114653737kek i laffed
>>114653709>>114653751She always had the angry face retards
>>114653716Could've waited another 2 more years
>>114653628She had no idea. Her reasons are she has poor health and trying to be a dancing idol isn't really viable for her.
i know this place is mindbroken by tribalism but in the corporate world a merger is never a good thing
>>114653709>e changed the EN in her into a little angry face.Lol no she didn't she just removed the EN
>>114653727JP loves Western name
>>114653684you need to ignore things if you want to shitpost duh
>>114653617>>114653664>>114653724Only gens 0 to 2 have no name >>114653713
>>114653620Yeah you just need a fleshie to raid you and give you more than 80% your average
Hey now Hololive can expand and just add random cute KR girls straight into Hololive without the headache of creating a KR branch.
>>114653474Get fucked ENsharts.
>>114653709>ONLY THE WORST HOLOS ARE MAD AT THIS>only the holos not living in JP are mad at thissounds like you are already on your knees for tanigo-samas cock. could boy.
Bae, shiori, CC and biboo haven't said a thing on twitter?Are they okay with the changes?
>>114653186well the branch and culture they were building fucking sucked so
>>114653571so it can get 5k on a good day and not stream?
>>114653474I'm glad I dropped them during their move to JP when they cried that nothing would change.
>>114653660There will never be another member who speaks Indonesian.
>>114653767Its like an even bigger fuck you to them. They are getting completely memoryholed.
>>114653780It’s a good thing because Kiara is seething.
>>114653780A merger between two companies, yes. This is a restructuring.
>>114653684>>114653731>>114653785You people are seriously retarded. There's no new EN coming. Anyone with sense can tell.
So is this finally it for the homos? If even EN is getting merged because of poor operational costs, the EN homos can't possibly be allowed to exist much longer right?
>the lazy holos are angyOh shit they’re actually putting JP work ethic expectations on western women
>>114653780why
>>114653780it's not a merger its literally just rebranding
Honestly this Kaela stream is a goldmine for rrats
Now I understand why Kiara had been acting so down these past few months, seriously was she the only one who cared?
>>114653811they already updated their twitter bios iirc, but if you're talking about a proper post, then no
How do TakoToriGODS feel about this? One one hand my Ina seems happyOne the other Kiara absolutely HATES thisWhat now?
>>114653709kek it can’t keep happening. not one good girl is unhappy and not one less desirable girl is happy
>>114653744ollie was just there crashing and streaming with her she is set
>>114653783Maryu is pretty Japanese, though
>>114652631Companies will just stipulate playing in JP only to be petty
>>114653684>Audition for EN talent>requirement: Fluent Japanesehmmmm I wonder why!
>>114653754They think Cover can merge them with the girls and it's going to save them
>>114653780I would freak out if hololive and nijisanji merged. good thing this wasn't the case
i wonder if Yagoo stopped and think if this merge is actually good for Hololive. they probably didn't expect the general reaction to this as mixed, even the holomems themselves.
>>114653780This isn't a merger. It's consolidation (which is usualy also a bad thing).
one hololive working alreayd
>>114653827As soon as an Asobi speaks English, you'll be changing your tune.
>>114653842she doesn't want to have to move to japan right as the country is facing a massive financial crisis
>>114653709>Ollie and Erb both madOh, I'm getting excited, thats good news
>>114653847Probably their managers doing the twitter update
>>114653724They never used it and I don't even think the JP girls knew those existed. Also removing the number system makes it easier to debut new groups because imagine hololive gen 14 Alice Kurona
>>114653867He can't do shit. Stockholders have him by the balls.
>>114653780seeing the state of square-enix, this is kinda true
>>114653686Money. Add say, Lui, to something brings basically no extra audience. Adding Mori or Bae or FWMC is a whole separate audience.
>>114653850>One one hand my Ina seems happyshe lives in japan so this is purely a win for her>kia-who cares
>>114653649if it was individual then only Neon and Sayana wouldn't make it but lucky for them they can be carried by Mira and Hinami
>>114653841Anyone who doesn't understand what's going on is a total idiot, honestly.
>>114653684Formality, in the end only jurard friend got into hololive
>>114653767It just shows that Cover has completely abandoned them, and that's a very bad sign for HomoEN
>>114653852>>114653882>>114653773
logo and header on the sub also changed
>>114653832>Oh shit they’re actually putting JP work ethic expectations on western womenGOOD!
>>114653811>BaeOverslept, probably the same sappy sentiment as Mori>ShioriDoesn't care about semantics, as long she gets to stream, gets money from paypigs she'll keep on trucking >CCProbably a joke-but-actually-serious response later on (1-2 hours after chatting with Gigi)>BibooWill tweet a joke response in JP morning
Here's hoping they merge homoEN into the japanese unemployment office too
>>114653832Kiara and Ollie aren't lazy
>you don't understando gaijin-kun. Dissolving two branches and absorbing them into the grorious nippon branch is very very good
https://x.com/irys_en>Irys doesn't even bother writing "Hololive" in latin characters but moonrunes insteadGrim, but why am I not surprised?
No wonder it seemed like everyone was demotivated recently.
>>114653877I just feel bad for you, man. You're gonna slowly realize I'm right about this.In fact, the ultimate blackpill will be when they actually debut a talent that is someone that lives or was born in America... And then they just stream nearly exclusively in Japanese anyways.
>gook saw Kiara doomposting>OH NO KIARA, DON'T SAY THATShe's his oshi btw
>>114653857Gosh i thought it was "Mary"
>>114653871>Going to be fully JP
>>114653684Because that's been there ever since we've been waiting for EN5 and ID4
>>114653474>we didn't want to be in EN anyway
>needing fluent Japanese for a JP company in an English-speaking role is now bad.
>>114653896Why would you reply to me when I specifically asked the takotorigods? Kill yourself out of this thread, worm.
>>114653921It's good when Hololive does it
>>114653912HOMOS BANNED
The only EN members who care about the merge are old heads and nostalgia fags, mainly Kiara and Calli. Bae, IRyS, and most of Advent don’t care cause they think pandering to JP is the way. Justice is the “don’t care and do nothing gen”, and the Koreans also dgaf. You can argue if it’s bad or good, but the dooming will mostly come from Calli and Kiara, just like it did during Serensipity.
GO GO KIARASCHIZO!!
>>114653941hololive*
>>114653709It cannot be a coincidence any longer. Get these lazy whores out of hololive.
>>114653921>you don't understando gaijin-kun. Dissolving two branches and absorbing them into the grorious nippon branch is very very goodfuck I dunno why but I can perfectly hear this in Fuwawa's voice
>>114653802If they speak Japanese. Ain't no one streaming in Korean.
>>114653334kingdom hearts
>The last samurai wonBASEDBASEDBASED
>>114653916It would be the funniest news if Cover announces the merging of Holostars EN and JP
>>114653475>Mori goes on an entire 15+ min tangent about how she's ultimately optimistic about the change>"Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh well that's just COPE!!! Now if you'll excuse me while I'll ignore everything positive she said so I can put her in the "hates it" category on my gay little tier list"What do you call this?
Nevermori?
>>114653780No shit, was anyone ever under the impression Cover was doing well? and that they could avoid such a move?
>>114653991not watching stream
>>114653918They don’t count because they’re attentionwhore runts who use any drama and bait for clout
>>114653936Yeah, now he's coping and pretending the mcu retweet wasn't a reference to what just happened
>>114649341based nijifags
>>114653709Now I'm 100% certain this latest move is the best move.
Hard to take this manufacture doomerism from faggots seriously on here and outside when it mostly nijisisters going>PTSD HUR DURfor something that has never happened in Hololive before and homosisters crashing out about>WHAT ABOUT DA HOMOS AIEEEEEE
My newest rrat concerning Kronii is that she’s taking this 3 month break to find a place for her and her parents to live in Japan.
>>114653686It depends the EN managers (who were just Mori's managers) were ass and ran the branch like ass. At least the JP managers may be more neutral and will give chances to the ENs who aren't Mori, unlike the previous EN managers who only gave things to Mori.
>>114653802Can we get back some of the CN talents that were actually Taiwanese
>>114653948Anon, this might come as a shock to you, but a big part of this general has always been EOP. The idea of all talent coming in now being aimed at the Japanese and not at us is not particularly pleasant for us. We've been coping about EN5 for years.
>>114653936Is the cover money stronger than love? Will be interesting to see how this goes.
>>114653959Hard for "Bae, IRyS and most of Advent" to care because they don't have anything as grand as Myth's success to be nostalgic about KEK
>>114653959Anon, did you not fucking watch Mori's stream?
バウバウ, wuffians, please buy our 250 dollar EP, 'kay wuffians?
>>114653998I mean if Nerissa is happy about it then what's the point about all this seethe, she's never speaking Japanese for shit
>>114653978arent KH perms pekora only not even JP?
>>114653943This is on the new page that they just made with new logo
>>114653959Nobody besides FWMC does any hard pandering. Arguably ID do the most pandering to JP.
Feels good to have dropped EN for Sora 3 years ago.
>>114653811Bae = already JP functionallyShiori = this probably hurts her the most but I don't know if she even cares and anything is better than the shit she dealt with as MoeCC = probably not happy Biboo = neutral, waiting to see how it works out
>>114653474Wow who could have seen this coming? Shocking, I tell you
>>114653991She wasn't talking to the audience, she was talking to herself.
>>114653925i mean so does ollie >>114652214
>>114653949>takotorigodswell you havent gotten any other replies so take the clue mongoloid
>>114653998I used to play Nevermori Nights. It was fun.
>>114653384Ha! One thing I'm 90% certain she would not bitch about is her post grad numbers. Admitting a mistake with long-lasting consequences would be a huge hit to her ego. 10% she would pull Fauna on steroids and blame cover for everything bad
>>114654021>watching morifuck off
>>114654040IRyS and Bae
>>114654031the EN & ID auditions are connected to a printer whose output feeds into a shredder
>>114654047>Mito is Hololive nowwtf happened
>>114649341to be fair, when nijisanji merged it was a death sentence. so, it is a valid concern that if niji en merged it is basically a death sentence to the branch.
>>114654009I think it's just she herself trying to find a place to live in Japan and probably manage the paperwork involved with it. And if Kronii decides to move to Japan.... The chances of Gigi moving there will also be exponentially higher. FUCK
Is this why Mori and Kiara have been "feeling alone" lately?
>>114654068Exceptional people like me are rare and I am patient.
>>114654014Sorry, faggot. Been /here/ since 4chan was an anime site, you election tourists were never welcome.
>>114654018Irys and Fuwamoco don't care because they are retards who cater to the nips, FWMC is going full JP
>>114654042>CC = probably not happyi highly doubt she's angry about this either, she's probably neutral just like biboo
>>114653513The only one leaving is Kiara and that's a maybe, depends on how much she likes the indie life. If Saba and Dooby were more active I'd be more worried.
>>114654047>Mito Ishigamiwho the fuck are you?! You're not my Mio wife!?
>>114653474I will now watch your ogres
>/#/ Expectations: THD!>Reality: Hololive EN and ID are dead.Karma?
>>114654099Maybe the others agreed to the changes
>they turned EN from a specific grouping with boundaries into a clique within a larger entityKek good jobDefinitely won't create friction and resentment now
>>114654102exceptionally braindead!
>>114653474BASED BASED BASED
>>114654099Kiara was feeling alone cause no one was on her side KEKW
>>114654075Black twitter is here.
>>114653998the most pathetic coping posts to meet the company prerogative I've ever seen
>>114654075>make stuff up>get fact checked