Having your branches be consolidated means you failed as a branch.

It is that simple.

oh yeah, ollie will not survive this merge, she was free to do whatever she wanted and now having a retarded jp manager will kill h er

>>114652556
yea no shit ollie is upset, retard, homos were not included

>>114652623
Exactly! There is no JP, EN, ID or dev_is anymore. They're just Hololive now, 4 branches and all of them failed

>>114652751
EN and ID got consolidated into JP.
JPs are probably also not happy that 20+ shitters lost their houses and are now moving into their mansion

>>114652751
this but unironically
Cover has a duty to their investors and stockholder to make a profit every quarter, I'm glad they're taking the next steps after cutting off Homo support to trimming the fat

>>114652623
This is just cover realizing what every japan company eventually realizes which is that trying to juggle anything outside of japland is too hard for them. Eventually everyone will either move to japan, speak more or exclusively jp and Cover will shrink into a more manageable and successful japan focused company with some foreign employees.

>>114652556
Grim

>>114652556
>ollie kiara dooming
day end with Y.

>>114652556
To be fair, obviously this board thinks EN is affected by this at all but it was always about ID. Most of the ID talents hate the non-ID branches and are extremely nationalistic and unlike EN, they always had unity from the start in terms of growing up and living in the same country. Losing ID means losing their excuses and their ability to cling to their more popular members. On the other hand, Cover took far too long to break up that cartel so it will likely result in a lot of shit thrown their way for years to come unless half of them graduate soon.

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>>114652556
ive only kinda paid attention to kaela in ID

DEV_IS and FWMC seem happy about it

>>114653096
FuwaMoco are glad to be rid of their EN chains and can finally become Japanese

>>114653096
Calli too, Anya also took it well

>>114652556
BASED.
>in before unicorn schizo

Yeah, no one cares about Ollie or her opinions

>>114653157
Anya and Zeta are the two IDs who might survive becoming HoloJPs

>>114652556
>>114652623
Hololive is a failure

>>114653210
they also live in Japan so they'll be fine.

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>>114652556
Holo ID is the best indication to the reality because theoretically their branch has the most to gain from this merge.

The only ones having a problem with this are those hanging on to their underdog branch unity mentality. Not surprising that every member who doesn't care about the cliques between the branches also doesn't care about the merger.

>>114653067
They're desperately trying to cut costs so they're eliminating other branches to cut down management. It will probably have zero effect on JP because that's where all the remaining management will be but me and id will probably take even longer to do anything now because of having to run it through JP who now have to side juggle the other branches.

Long story short don't be surprised to see several graduations in the coming months do to "differences"

>>114653096
No more English streams from the doggos anymore. Ruffians better do their JP reps.

>>114653062
The stupid thing is a large majority don't hate JP, but when it feels like everything is shifting away from EN talents who remain almost strictly EN, then it feels really bad.

>>114652873
Imagine if instead of a merger they’d announced they were using holodori profits for a buyout to go private again.

>>114653390
I wish we lived in that kind of world.

>>114653096
it was probably fwmc's idea lmao

>>114653390
Damn T_T

so Ollie and Kiara hate it? seems like they're just having a woman moment then

>>114653157
Calli sounded like she was holding back tears when she deleted EN from her name. But that’s probably just lingering attachment to the branch she built.

>>114653469
>But that’s probably just lingering attachment to the branch GurAme built.
FIFY

>>114653462
>women moment
Hello Parrot

>>114653505
You know I'm right baby

>>114653433
All the work they were busy with and disappearing for was probably being involved in and pushing this shit.

>>114653096
FWMC would kill every single EN fan to be japanese

>>114652556
I'm guessing there's a huge restructuring going on in the background, and I wonder if they'll need to follow the JP workflow now.

>>114653532
they’ll always be pale white canucks

The absolute state of Holokek

>>114653051
What a bunch of selfish bitches, making their fans worry over a literal nothingburger. They should be grateful that Yagoo didn't decide to just outright axe their shitty deadweight branch.

>>114652556
>Me watching people cope that this is good for EN and ID when IDs themselves are dooming
>ollie
lol,lmao even

>>114652556
so Nijisanji won?

>>114653096
>the wannabe japs are happy about it
wow really anon

>>114653585
amazing state that is

>>114653462
They think for some reason they can't pretend to be victims without their sidebranches but Gen 1 exists.

>>114652556
>ollie
so its fucking nothing lol

>>114653637
>Nijisanji
who?

>>114653592
What holofag talks like this? Why are you pretending to be one?

>>114653229
No way Anya moved there, she still had her shitty ID Internet for ARK.

>>114652556
she had it all but threw it all away collabing with shitters and ecelebs

>>114653490
Please kill yourself.

>>114653062
Gross anti. I hope you stub your toe

>>114653757
She moved there sometime in July
https://youtu.be/GiPVZJvaZ3A

>>114652556
>Me watching people cope that this is good for EN and ID when IDs themselves are dooming
Okay some of the EN and ID talents are clearly upset with the JP branch merge and the doomposting is getting hard to ignore. Kiara had been doomposting a lot in recent months so I thought she might have already been sad but it does feel like about half the EN and ID talents don't like the merge since they wanted to keep their branch identity. I want to be optimistic because the visual updates is good news for many talents (Ina, Kronii, Anya, etc...) but starting to worry about the long term effects of the Hololive merge.

>>114653067
True TLDR: They are merging shit to cut loses on taxes.... yeah that's literally it.

>heh you will never be japa- AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
apologize right now

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>>114652623
>The only successful branch

>>114653970
>still making everything about your outfits
never change outfitschizo

FWMC running this shit

Can Holofags admit HoloID has been superior than EN for the last few years now at least. Numbers stopped posting charts because of this fact unless it suited them.

>>114653970
>In recent months
Outfit schizo, Kiara has been negative about everything since day 1. You can't open a Kiara stream without whining.

>Iofi: SINCE WE'RE NOT HOLOID ANYMORE I CAN USE SWIMSUIT ONSTREAM
>Iofi: I'LL USE SWIMSUIT NEXT STREAM

she's only upset because no homos

>>114654077
>FWMC ruining this shit
Ftfy

>>114654081
They were both good. Trying to compare them just puts us in the situation we’re in now.

>>114653970
That Ina is the last person sent when no one else wants to promote or do an advisement should tell you something.

>>114653637
You mean Phase?
They are the biggest EN corp now

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>>114652556
EN being seperate from the other groups gave the smaller members a chance to shine and collab with bigger members without there being odd number politics about it. Same with Indonesia. But now theyre all fighting for the same scraps which is just depressing

>>114652841
there is no more JP though? just hololive

>>114654248
ID were a bunch of retards who shit on their own demographic to chase EN, who left them when a second EN gen debuted. Imagine complaining about reshuffling when the one who hurt ID most, was ID.

>>114653307
Tbf it will take a long time for ID to do anything, because they don't do anything to begin with

>>114654186
>the 3view corp
genuinely not even close

>>114654440
Okay, tell me which en company/branch beats them?

>>114653970
If Sora's update is any indicator, the new outfit updates are covered-up and blandmaxxed for "mass appeal".
At least the expressions are improved, though.

>>114654248
not very depressing when you have reservations for those smaller ENs and IDs. they took up a hololive spot in place of someone more deserving, they deliberately choose to hold themselves and their branch back, now they finally had their comeuppance.
no more coasting. time to earn your keep.

yeah i get it why she and other dislike it, For the ID girls it probably hits the hardest, it can be positive - like mask some statistics so now the fear some had that some investor fuckers would look at ID with side eyes similar to the stars is gone.
But it comes to the cost of the identity for the the and community they have been to building till now... I do hope the stress cause by this dont cause her and other to quit - they should test the waters for the next months get data and make some complaints regarding resources now that they are a joint branch the clearly cant get the same standard of support. because availability and physical locations

>>114654065
>still making everything about your outfits
>never change outfitschizo
Sora literally had a 2.0 redesign today and several talents will get visual redesigns each year for several years. If anything I was too optimistic since half of Hololive wanted redesigns to replace their standard outfit. I didn't imagine it was this big of an issue and the redesign disputes weren't limited to Sana, Ina, Kronii, Flare, Shion, Kaela, Anya, ...

>>114654462
holo, niji, basically any indie with /lig/ status

I wonder if management even discusses with the talents about these things. So much for the tea parties. They really were just lip service.

>>114653970
>I want to be optimistic because the visual updates is good news for many talents
>5 to 8 members a year
anon really thinks ID will still be here in 6 to 9 years when they finally get one lol

>>114652556
Ollie and Kiara is the worst Holo ever with their drama/doomposting, hope they graduate and stop making other fans felt uncomfortable.

>>114654462
NijiEN lmao. And most liggers. They also handle merch much better.
phasewhores are astroturfed nobodies constantly shilled by their chuddie fans

>>114654817
The meeting with the board casts a much larger shadow.

>>114652556
>ollie is sad
so thats good news, thanks

>>114654956
>if I pretend to be a holofag I can pity them against each other

>>114655050
>Holofans must love all the Holo Talents even the crazy rushia!

Nah I'm good man, I only support those that are sane and actually make Hololive good to watch.

>>114654817
YAGOO was genuinely trying to hold onto that goodwill with his talents as much as possible. It's just that investors are such selfish, squirrely, long-nosed cocksuckers willing to burn down the entire company to save 6 yen. And unfortunately, said investors have the power to do so. This is the last possible way they can be appeased before the inevitable, probably later this year, or early the next. All stock market systems must be reduced to rubble.

>>114655050
>being a fan of one holo talent means i have to like all of them

>>114653781
Literally this
She was to be one of the most successful vtubers but she decided to throw everything away.

>upset
>doesn't elaborate why
vague post queen

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>>114655016
Indies do not count we are talking corps
>NijiEn
Lmao

>>114653096
FWMC hate their EN fans and desperately want to be Japanese so yeah this is probably wonderful for them

>>114654749
I wouldn’t say that’s a fair assessment since nobody in EN could compete with JP numbers.

>>114655317
No they want us to be JAPANESE with them. I did my learning so I am good.
Did you?

>>114652556
she most likely has a nepohire in holoID manager and they are now booted off lmao

>>114655435
The dogs have only made me hate japs more

>>114653067
no more "shitty" EN concerts, gotta get their money back by mixing in JP as well

this is a good unless you are twitchthot and homo supporter so of course she's angry
its a good thing this shitstain is angry. graduate obese bitch

>>114654792
>>114655016
Looks like Phase is the default option this is sad how this is now copium

>>114654311
Yeah, but that's not the angle I want to take this in.

Seems like the one's upset are Kiara and the low tier IDs
That's all I need to hear to deem this a good decision, hopefully they leave

>>114655568
skill issue, nigger

>>114654956
Both are just retarded a f. They've said and done too many things that corroborate their stupidity

>>114652556
Why are IDs upset? They're out of the trash branch and Hololive proper now

>>114655797
it will be harder for them to suck homo cock and collab with twitch whores now. thus ollie fuming

>>114655395
it wasn't just numbers. smaller members who work hard and try to branch out will get rewarded for this, that's why they didn't complain despite the stronger competition. the merger only hurts the prideful and antisocial assholes who hardly work despite being smaller than everybody else and still think they deserve the world.

So this benefits Bae, Irys, and FuwaMoco and screws the rest pretty much? Or are there other honorary JPs among EN Im forgetting

So does this mean Mori can finally be a open shotacon?

>>114655797
Would you like /vt/merged with another board? It wouldn't change almost anything, but it's human nature to have a sense of belonging. That's even the reason for some wars, lmao

>>114655884
That's a lot of assumptions about people you've never even met or who can't afford to move for life reasons or because Japan likes being Japan when foreigners want housing.

>>114652556
>homocollaber upset the merger excludes any mention of homos
she should graduate

>>114655941
>/vt/ merges with /a/ and we get /a/ jannies
I would crash out

>>114655921
And IRyS openly lust over lolis(she only does it when speaking jap)

>>114655900
It benefits all but whores who insist on collabing male vtubers

>>114656057
We are going to eat so good

>>114656029
literally cant get worse

>>114655900
This is good for all but Kiara and a few id girls

>>114655900
>Kari
And
>Bijou
>Nessie
To some extent.

>>114656029
Then either you are the Ollie/Kiara of /vt/ or it is fucking normal behavior.

>>114652556
>Ollie being menhera
Oh no, what a unheard of situation

I mean as a viewer this kind of means nothing, but behind the scenes I'm sure it means some real restructuring. The fact that some talents are openly negative about it is not a good sign lmao

>>114655900
It benefits everyone except the ones who slurp homo cock and collab with indies

inb4 this is a way for them to debut Chinese talents without remaking the China branch

Is this because HoloEarth flopped?

>>114655649
Irony here is hololive is now structured like phase where the jp and non jp talents are freely collaborating and utilizing same resources…if they advocate for it. This means the lazy asses and low performers will now be easily called out.

>>114656491
Yes obviously geg they took the metaverse pitch and it flubbed badly

>>114656479
Gigi already debuted

>>114656001
you don't have to know someone personally to know they're unpleasant to be around. besides, in this case they were vtubers, their work is recorded on the internet for everyone to see. that iofi tweet about demanding a nendroid still exists.
you dislike assumptions yet you made one for a whole country. can you claim to know every neighborhood in japan? lots of ENs and IDs who moved there made it work, it wasn't a coincidence.

>>114654781
Outfitschizo kys

>>114656491
It's because economy is in the shitter and it's harder for people to justify buying plastic they don't need.

>>114652556
Ollie's feelings don't matter but it is still strange that talents found out about it same time as fans did. This is why internal meetings were important so the higher ups could temper the PR fallout. Even if the bitches are just crying about a name change.

>>114655317
They would willingly sacrifice each and every single one of their EN Ruffians to Moloch personally if it meant "protecting the smile" of a single JPbro
They don't care about us, they always wanted to be JP, they literally applied to be JP first, got rejected and settled for EN as a participation trophy, now their larp finally paid off and they can go fully mask off with JP cocksucking

>>114657350
I don't think EN ruffians see it that bleakly but if they do and they knew all this beforehand, they are either retarded for picking them as oshis or lazy because they didn't want to improve themselves/grow with their oshis

>>114656479
It means the death of HoloES too...

>>114652556
>Me watching people cope that this is good for EN and ID
This is good for EN and ID because I don't like EN and ID.

Seeing only the shitters seethe about this (Kiara, Reine, Ollie) while the actual relevant talents applaud it (Mori, Fuwamoco) speaks volumes

>>114652623
This
NijiEN>>>>holoen

>>114656320
It could be bad if you don't know Japanese and the talents you like from the EN branch spend more time trying to cater/garner a Japanese fanbase.

>>114653637
Yesn't.
They need to last until May next year to outlive HoloEN.

>>114654546
And physics.
Sora's outfit made her boobs bounce a lot on her member stream

>>114653096
>FWMC
Happy to have dropped their cunt asses a while back.

>>114657118
Yea as someone who buys niji and holo merch its fucking nuts.
Duties on the holo stuff is insane and I pay upwards of 300 sometimes, on the niji side I have to buy shipping tickets to cover the JP side, then DHL shipping and possible tariffs once it arrives here.
I fucking hate it.

>>114654956
>making other fans felt uncomfortable
Pussy. Uncomfortable feeling is a sign of something going wrong. You face it if you're a man, take the bitter pill. A man's life is a life of constant battle.
Face it that this is bad for the girl's future.

>>114657118
>>114658107
Pulling back on overseas stuff seems a little questionable though, the economy is bad anywhere, but the wheels are about to fall off the clown car that is the JP economy

>>114652556
never forget that 1 japanese is worth 10 million gaijin, it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't affect the JP branch

>>114658265
Buying overpriced plastic is ingrained for japanese, for western fans not so much and they would be the first ones to stop buying.

>>114655797
they'll be loosing their freedom, management will now be JP. expect them to day they have new managers soon and it wont be good, since the JP one's don't know anything for the ID market.

>>114652556
the blue checkmark is back btw

more back to back graduations soon?

>>114657579
>mori
how retard can you be?

>>114657579
>fuwamoco
how retard can you be?

>>114655761
you will never be a jap

>>114655900
Bae, Mori, IRyS, advent minus shiori, raora, are the ones who won. Ina maybe.

>>114654956
>Kiara is such a piece of shit always saying what's on her mind
>uwu my oshi is so professional she never says anything bad about the company!

>>114655317
They absolutely hate having to stream for EN fans and I'm tired of trying to interpret it in good faith
I'm a Ruffian, but I really feel like non-JPbro Ruffians have been more and more ostracized by FWMC

>>114660506
You ruffians never had a good run besides the first 9 months, and even then..

>>114659050
nah, the ones who absolutely refused to move to JP or become JP fluent already left.

a more interesting question is, did they leave because they were aware this merger was on the horizon? or did their leaving force this merger once it became obvious EN wasn't going to reach its foreign expansion goals any longer.

>>114660990
>the ones who absolutely refused to move to JP or become JP fluent already left.
Not yet. There are still a couple, even if you ignore all of ID.

>>114652556
It's objectively good.
It means hololive's resources are consolidated and it's bigger and stronger than ever.

all the ones i don't like are upset about the news so i'm ok with this.
hopefully they erase the indogs from holodori too so i never have to hear that fucked up language again.

It means only one anniversary, a company wide one, means less things for the other branches.
This isn't positive news unless you really like JP.

>>114661072
bigger and stronger how? how can Japanese managers understand anything going on the English side?

>>114661072
>It means hololive's resources are consolidated
It means the runts and big dogs are now eating from the same bowl retard, guess who eats first?

>>114661596
>how can Japanese managers understand anything going on the English side?
EN management has always been mosly japanese, literally nothing has changed in this regard.

>>114652556
Her avatar goes so well with what's she's saying. lol
I love when this happens. Are those small pleasures in life, you know what i mean?

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>>114657350
>They would willingly sacrifice each and every single one of their EN Ruffians to Moloch personally if it meant "protecting the smile" of a single JPbro
The "single JPbro" made me laugh for some reason

>>114653067
That's a child

>>114653307
So then explain Studio Stellar

>>114663569
Suisei is their golden goose, she gets anything she wants

>>114663531
children don't have breasts, anon

>>114663569
Studio Stellar is managed by NERD Inc. Cover is just he majority investor.

>>114655900
this only screws up the girls who aren't in Japan/don't know japanese

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>>114652903
A proven formula for financial success.
How much yakuza money is Hololive laundering now that they're publicly traded?

>>114652556
no you don't get it, random retards know better than the talents themselves about the reality going on behind the scenes

>>114652623
the problem is that it didnt fail, holo en groups do insane numbers, we are talking about hundred milion in revenue according to their stock financial summary for last year
again, a hundred fucking milion dollars... and sure jp makes 3x that, but thats still is insane money to dwarf any smaller group like phase connect 10x over

How does Justice cope knowing they are the final EN gen?
So shit that you will never be EN senpais.

They left EN in worse shape than they found it.

>>114666525
It's not the first time Japs killed a successful international branch just because it was profitable without their medling.

>>114666995
i think they want to bump up net profits margins at cost of revenue
they are a public company after all, the shareholders make money on stock speculation, not through direct revenue share
since they have 700mln$ in market cap and Motoaki Tanigo / Yagoo is the main shareholder he probably only cares about his stock options than what ever the fuck is going in en, they probably see it as a mistake to enter this market as it only lowers their margins

>>114660990
Second one. Gura was their biggest EN branch draw, pretty much.

>>114652556
>Ollie is dooming
steak too juicy, lobster too buttery

>>114652556
i don't think people really understand what happened here. their branches were essentially dissolved, but they're allowed to keep going in holoJP (who no longer needs to be called JP specifically since there are no other branches anymore). EN and ID literally died today

>>114668865
>i don't think people really understand what happened here.
They understand perfectly, they just don't care, or are just using it as a vehicle for more anti shit.

I don't know why the IDs are complaining of all people when they probably benefit the most from the merge

>>114669215
In what way?

>>114669422
Now people will give them a chance because they don't immediately assume that they speak Indonesian on stream

So does this point to basically no more hiring talents outside Japan?

>>114669493
They were already not doing a new ID gen because the indog audience doesn't donate or buy merch and EN has been clearly put on hold because the global economy is going down the shitter and EN merch sales had been going down for the last year.

>>114652556
Its instinct, SEA know how their ancestor suffer greatly under japanese rule

>>114669451
Until they speak Indonesian or English.

>>114669872
All Hololive had to do was stick a warehouse in the US. stuff it with merch and it'd be easier to sell in America.

>>114670568
They still would have been hit with the flip-flop tariffs for made-in-china stuff through 2025 and the fact that with the economy going down the shitter in 2026 people in the west think it twice before buying plastic crap for their hobbies

>>114670423
That's what I really don't get. Unless they plan on pushing all the talents to use Japanese more often, there's ZERO benefit to doing this other than muddying the waters for overseas fans looking for talents to watch. That, and you can't have people asking about English or Indonesian languages from talents who used to be in EN or ID, which is something that would happen from time to time and get people riled up.

>>114656057
IRyS was openly lusting after some asian shota prince in a souls like game, I forget which one

>>114664463
Suisei is literally management. Her and Miko are top dog when it comes to JP talent, even Pekora has to defer to her.

>>114652623
if they failed then why werent they terminated or graduated

this is all FWMC's fault.

They removed the managements who can speak English and would fight to get EN stuff and not ghost them forever because they wasn't Japanese

>>114654956
>and stop making other fans felt uncomfortable.
You mean the dark elf who keep trying to get Ina to do stuff

>>114673243
Nobody gets fired in Japan, they get ostracized and ignored until they quit.

>>114655136
Yagoo and a buddy of his hold the majority stock vote last I heard. From what little I know about the investor meetings/vote/etc they tend to agree on "Yagoo is doing ok so lets let him make the decisions". That might be old info however.

>>114653781
Was Ollie ever big nuumbers wise?

>>114652556
>only the whores are against it
I'm already for it why are you convincing me

Ollie getting fired for brand image concerns? I don't know if you can explicitly discuss munching cunt while the Japanese sales team is running everything you say through chatgpt

>>114668101
That's a good point

>>114653885
LFG

>>114652556
Ollie could always just quit and open an onlyfans because she clearly wants to

>>114654338
>ID were a bunch of retards who shit on their own demographic to chase EN
As they should have.
The ID market is worthless and girls like Michi have shown how big you can get by ditching them entirely.

>>114652669
Pretty much

>>114653051
Life is hard being popular and rich

>>114653270
Well, the staff will mostly get fired so I dunno.
The girls totally grew attached to the staff (that's including their managers).
Also means having to travel more to Japan and/or even live there.

Mark my words: This is the final phase for hololive.
I feel that they're going to start losing even more talents and eventually they'll have to close (or either some bad illegal shit will come out into the light).
Enjoy while you can!

>>114652556
This is a massive boon for ID, they no longer have to have ID next to them and it'll attract more "friends" to leech Ollie which she wants.

>>114680246
People are just remembering when Niji merged their ID branch, left them without any local management to support them, and the majority graduated

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>>114680086
>Well, the staff will mostly get fired
That is a good counter if true. I heard ID's managers were pretty good to them. That sucks.

ofc she is upset she just recently said holodrones are racist because they don't want to watch ID. With the merger now the mention of ID has been eliminated.

Expect the least popular girls to abandon hololive.
>>114680776
>>114680086
Well, I think it's to get rid of most of the staff from other branches and maybe abandoning the least popular talents so they end up leaving the company by their own means, thus not having to fire them.

>>114654155
Good

Ollie should quit and open an OnlyFans where she exclusively rides me for hours at a time

>>114652556
>Boohoo nobody watches Hololive ID (because we speak ID all the time)
>Herro Orrie-san, yuu a nao Hororaibu, no not ID, Hororaibu
>Ollies biggest cope why nobody watches ID is now gone and she can't lie anymore
Kekaroooooo

>>114655797
Ollie does plenty of unhinged shit. Way more that doesnt get translated by clippers.

>>114653096
fwmc are probably glad there isn’t a pretense any longer and they can go all in on being japanese

>>114653490
truke nuke

>>114653637
both lost rather bigly

>>114654956
what’s with this mindset that talents are better the more they sand off any potential edge and genuine expression

>>114653206
her and kiara's both
two of the most idiotic retards in hololive always having a loud mouth to open whenever the slightest fucking inconvenience happens

>>114657579
>the “actual talents” are the sanitized corpo jp cocksuckers

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>>114663569
suisei has too much draw for then to pressure her, she even made a tweet commenting on the merge

>>114668263
I hope they do, the talents are good but fuck hololive management

>>114671082
it’s definitely pushing everyone to cater to jp, why do you think the jp-oriented talents like calli and fwmc are so on board with it

I wonder if they'll force HoloCure to delete the Gen identification for the girls.

Oh boy, this will create discord between some of the girls.

>>114657502
>>114655435
I don't get the "learn Japanese" thing. I studied Japanese in high school. I can understand enough to get the gist of a sentence. That being said, it's a completely useless fucking language unless you want to watch streams or play Jap games. Nobody in America speaks it and even the Japanese are constantly taking words from English and mangling it into their own language. I only come onto this board when crazy shit happens so I can see the replies. As much as I like FWMC, it's stupid to have to learn a nearly useless language in order to get all of their content. They're Hololive EN, not JP. If they try and go for the JP audience, they'll likely have success for a few months and then drop off once the novelty wears off. Japan is absolutely flooded with streamers. FWMC have cultivated a pretty loyal fanbase. If they ditch them to try and be JP, it'll likely just end in a deserved downfall because quite frankly, they can't compete with the established JP talents.

As a retard who spent too much time learning Japanese, just wait for the machine translations to get better. They can already translate audio and video to a decent degree. Put that effort into something more useful like learning a skill or something that'll impress people, like drawing, music, etc. I can count on one hand the amount of times learning Jap has been useful, even as a weeb.

>all of the girls doesn't mind the change but 2 known dramawhores bitching about it so it must be bad!

The current holo situations keep falling to the same shit.

>>114657118
>it's harder for people to justify buying plastic they don't need
/tg/ here, this is true. 11E 40k is flopping hard

>>114668263
im hoping Keeki having a concert w Nimi and Shachi getting a model are steps towards this.

>>114668263
>no more collaborations with games, anime, tv shows, movies
>no more 3D lives without covering the cost themself
>competing with each other for a much smaller pool of money
>all merch comes with a high risk of being scammed
they won't lol

>Number monkey Ollie has to compete in the big leagues now
Rumao.

>>114652556
ollie is an unprofessional whore who is just upset at the idea she may not be able to run around doing whatever anymore

>>114653390
If only it were that simple. If holodori had done THAT well, the share price would have gone up and made a buyout even more expensive.

>>114683156
>If they try and go for the JP audience
>If
Were you in a coma since 2023?

They are going through their women moments. Full-driven by emotions rather than rationale

>>114670947
This, people don't understand that setting up a warehouse in the US will still get you hit by trumps schizo tariffs since they still need to import the goods or materials , which get hit by his tariffs anyway. Or that he's caused the cost of living to explode so people have to cut back on luxury goods (Like holo merch) now.
If Cover had brains in accounting, they'd figure out which EN girls get the best sales in America and then find ways to produce merch that doesn't get hit as hard by trump's tariffs to encourage people to buy them. Selling a bag or jacket where the tariffs doubles the price of it is turning people away.

>>114685723
So what's the rationale that makes it good for them?

>>114683254
Only the girls already living in japland are fine with it anon, everyone else either hates it or is neutral

holy fuck, the amount of retards itt talking about management being fired with this. All of their mangers are already in Japan, always have been. And why the fuck would they be cut, unless the girls themselves are? Someone still has to manage them. And IDs have like one "M-chan" for all of them as is.

>>114675203
Doesn't matter, they still have a fiduciary duty to the share holders, who can sue if they feel their best interests aren't being looked after. E.g. "we own part of this company too, but the ceo is treating it like his personal plaything rather than a profit generating business; we're going to sue to get him removed!"

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>>114652556
>>114652623
IDs are dooming because this is the last and final straw to de-fund them forever. Consolidation is never good for the employees. It just means the existing employees have to fight over an increasingly dwindling amount of resources.

Ollie, Kiara, all of them know that this is the end of every Hololive branch that doesn't live explicitly in Japan. You live in Indonesia or Austria? Get fucked. move to Japan and fight over retarded immigration semantics or never see another cent of budget ever again. They see the writing on the wall.

I know /vt/ doesn't because you guys likely never worked for a large or successful enough company to have ever undergone a merger. It doesn't matter if your company acquires someone else or is being acquired, you, as a peon, will lose influence and have your job radically changed in ways you don't like.

>>114652903
>>114652841
>>114652873
Anyone saying this is good because le homo or le profits is retarded. This is the kind of shit that ruined media companies in the west. The only reason they got a viewership at all is because they didn't have to argue with Japanese managers to get one little thing done in a company that views the non-JP talent as outsourced trash. Literally what happened to Nijisanji.

>>114654391
Even if they don't do anything they at least gave their talents some freedom, for better or worse. You won't see SHIT coming out of them anymore. No music, no video games, no collabs. This is like announcing the death of the branch as a whole.

>>114686022
Also this, all those retarded managers that we hate in EN and ID? Yeah they have even more power and your favorite non-JP talent has even less. It's why it's called consolidation.
>>114686259
Fiscal race to the bottom is why we're watching VTubers instead of streamer thots who work for large companies tiktok dancing on twitch. This is just announcing that profits and viewership are going to start dropping even more drastically.

What did ID contribute to this company anyway? All they did was bait fans who couldn't understand japansese with their pajeet english and then slap them away when they started streaming 99% in fucking minion language. All that for what, a fraction of real english speaking branch was earning? Not to mention them polluting the whole branch with gayfags, ollie basically killed her own career wiping shit off her faggot friends when she was spraying shit all over herself.

>>114686022
You'd have to actually watch Holo to know that. Bold of you to assume anyone here does.

>>114655724
so fuwawas surgery months ago was plastic surgery to look more japanese right?

>>114686259
>>114652873
>>114655136
People need to STFU about MUH SHAREHOLDERS baushit because if it were remotely about what is good for revenue or shareholders then they would have never invested into Hololive Earth. The metaverse scam that siphoned millions out of the company.

>>114664723
Yeaaaaaah Konami is a terrible example. Their pivoting resulted in them losing tons of revenue. It's why they came crawling back to Metal Gear.

>>114686720
>Imagine being a bootlicker for the sharehodler parasite class.

>>114686022
It's about resources. Previously, the ID and EN branches had their own allocation, but Cover is now run by the shareholders who only see numbers, so the resources will now be pumped into JP who make the most profit while the rest will be left out to dry.
And that resource will also include managers.

>>114687510
>Previously, the ID and EN branches had their own allocation
That's already an assumption, at least for the staff. They had minimal possible number of managers since forever. Like the other anon said all of ID supposedly have one. It can't go down to 0, schizophrenia aside.

>>114664723
Konami's pivot didn't work at all, man. They pivoted back hard.
If you mean the Yugioh tcg shit fifteen years ago, that had nothing to do with overseas expansion being a crapshot, either.

>>114687510
>Previously, the ID and EN branches had their own allocation
Which we know amounted to fuck all in ID's case, so how to this change anything?

>>114688200
They had some ID only projects. Now it's bye-bye for those. Maybe one or two of them can get into a big project because they are the pet ID of big JP holo.

>>114688041
>all of ID supposedly have one.
>It can't go down to 0
Wanna bet?

>>114688360
I said
>schizophrenia aside

>>114688400
Shouldn't it be an easy bet to win, then?

I hope you like EN getting fuck all because the management who fight to get stuff for EN got removed and replaced by Japanese fags who can't tell that Irys and Biboo are not the same person

>>114652623
Going public was a mistake

>>114688681
>who can't tell that Irys and Biboo are not the same person
Qrd?

>>114687510
>is now run by the shareholders
now?

>>114652556
Everyone loves Ollie until they don't

>>114652751
>>114654311
they were never called "JP" though, they were just "hololive" with no decorations

This reminds me of the debate before my country raised taxes recently. We have a flat tax rate so everybody pays the same percentage of their income.
The rich and middle class were not particularly bothered, because it was a small increase and wasn't going to affect them, and it's fair because everyone pays the same.
But the poor people who were already struggling the most lost the biggest slice of their income but because it's "fair" nobody listened to their concerns.

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>>114663531
>cartoons
Is this cruelty to animals?

>>114687510
It also won't happen immediately, that'd provoke too much backlash and the audience will connect it to the merger. Just like the EN graduations, the upcoming reductions in duplicative staff will happen gradually and at staggered intervals so maybe only one or two talents will be heard complaining about something. Contracts will just not be renewed, or certain EN staff will be assigned to JP-specific tasks. In fact it's more likely they will throw out a bunch of projects in the new few weeks to make it seem like everything is improving. The shoe will drop early next year.

>>114688605
What even is the bet? That someone would manage them as long as they are in holo? That is indeed an easy bet to win.
>>114688681
>management who fight to get stuff for EN got removed and replaced by Japanese fags
Source?

>>114689587
Anon you really think they would still have people doing stuff for EN when they went out of their way to remove EN and every other non Holo JP group
>>114689066
Mori talked about it no that long ago how someone Japanese working for Cover who couldn't tell that Irys and Biboo wasn't the same person

>>114689657
They are still talent under their management. Yes I do think they will still manage them.

>>114689657
>couldn't tell that Irys and Biboo wasn't the same person
gaijins look all the same. it's expected

>>114689729
The context of that makes no sense because it implies Asians can't tell Asians apart and also size doesn't matter to this person. It can't have been confusion based on their appearance. It would also be weird to get mad at people not knowing each other by appearance, there are infamous examples like where Sora on a livestream identified Subaru as Matsuri or whatever it was because she's not seeing the character she's seeing the real Japanese person.

The merger announcement had blank narrative/response and would naturally be mildly positive as it opens up more collab opportunities.
Until Ollie and Kiara very quickly grieved over the announcement for whatever reason, and sets the tone for the whole merger. Here we are now talking about ID and EN shuttering down or shit.
They should have more consideration for the other talents that may be excited for this instead of just overwhelming the mood hour one. It just seemed like self-important individuals using hololive for their personal needs (whatever it is) instead of a shared positive goal. I watch vtubers to kill time with fun shit, and this is the exact opposite. At this point they might drag down the other talents with them. Just get them out at this point honestly. When principles and goals do not align anymore it's time to part.

>>114689944
>Here we are now talking about ID and EN shuttering down or shit.
It will when everyone left for not getting shit because there isn't anyone trying to get them anything anymore

>>114690219
>anymore
Who was trying to get them anything before, other than themselves? Omegay?

>>114689944
I honestly don't get why the two of them are even whining so much. Does anything really change for them?

>>114691514
For IDs it's ID language streaming very likely dying out completely in holo now. Because why the fuck would anyone? 100% people tuning in would expect english or japanese, not nazgul.
And Kiara is just a whiny bitch. Doesn't want to lose her OH en status, which she won't realistically but she's that insecure.

>>114691514
I don't know and wouldn't pretend to know, but their reaction just invites speculation that the relationship with main corporate is hostile and there is low trust. Just invites drama for what goal?
I get being sentimental and melancholic about the ID/EN as an entity disappearing, merging into another, but at least let the more positive reactions come out before crying upfront first and center, ruining it for others. Maybe use sub account too.
Just no consideration for others. No empathy, no taste. I really dislike how it all turned out.

>>114653067
>People post tweets mysteriously without context
What's happening here is that retards on /vt/ are trying to doctor a narrative, and you have to be pretty fucking retarded not to notice.

Because they're definitely all dooming about the changes and not getting annoyed about the retarded reactions some "fans" have about the whole thing. Nope. Definitely agreeing with the whiny trolls, for sure.

>>114691787
Wonder why, can't be because of members themselves vague doomposting. None of them said it is a good thing btw (other than fwmc ofc), at most "we'll see how it works out".

>>114691851
Uhuh. Sure thing bud.

>>114686376
I have and you are correct. Management changes things in such a way that it inconveniences them the least, at the cost of everyone else.

>>114688681
>Japanese fags who can't tell that Irys and Biboo are not the same person
Irys confirmed as brown. lmao

>>114689729
Subhuman asians are the ones who all look the same
Coinslot eyes, flat mongoloid faces and shit colored eyes the lot of them

>>114653970
>>114673706
outfitschizo and flareschizo in the same thread

vintage /vt/

>>114653067
I'd like to QRD this semen demon

>>114692627
>2026
>Still doesn't know how Ina looks like irl

Fucking grim

>>114693419
Irys is brown. Kekarooo

>>114687510
So shareholders turned Hololive into Nijisanji.
That's going to go over well.

>>114693345
Abigail Williams from FGO
Thought it was Sasha at first though