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>>114654087BAU BAU
THEY DIDN'T PROTECT MY FUCKING SMILE
Honestly, it seems ID is dooming way more over this. Other than Kiara, the mood in EN seems more hopeful?
>>114654182EN is hoping this fixes their perm bullshit. ollie is malding because she knows nobody is going to watch ID still.
Thank god I'll never have to hear these freaks and their weird fake voices in an English Collab ever again
>>114654182I guess their logic is no one watched ID before but at least they were their own small branch that stood out somewhat, now they'll just be drowned among all the talents
Rename the general to /byebye/ because you retards aren't going to get to watch an English stream from these pig faced whores again KEK
>>114654375>>114654444uh oh fliptwanny seethe
>>114654182Iofi and Zeta seem to be fine.
Damn, DEV_IS was merged too? I guess they're really giving up on trying different shit and will just debut talents now. I wonder if the amount of DEV_IS exclusive stuff will start to slow down now like all the concerts and 3D outfits. Seems like they'll be far more affected by this than anyone else if so.
>>114654444correct but you didnt need to insult their appearance
>>114654674dev_is was always dumb
>>114654182Anya and Zeta seem ok with everything, though that makes senseKiara just gets very emotional over this kind of stuff
>>114654674What happens to mekPark?
>>114654947No idea. Hololive is debuting a new gen so I wonder how the people in mekpark feels about this lol.
>>114654947That one was always "pre-debut" so they can just do whatever, just debut them under the now merged "hololive" branch, no issues.
>>114654947nothing changes for them
>>114655001aren't they debuting as this new gen
>>114655062No it's entirely different people, they still might get axed. Mekpark is a two year audition isn't it?
>>114655001I mean this is what they signed up for, would be weird if no one else debuted just because they're still going through "training"
Am I crazy for thinking hololive has too many talents now?
>>114654674They will still do shit as ReGloss and FlowGlow, those units are now just Holo units instead of a sidebranch with limited resources and awkward extra rulesets.>>114654947They will stay mekPark.It's a sort of training program that can lead to them becoming new Holos, that's always been the plan.The bigger question is what this project is even entailing since so far they haven't really been doing much of anything but stream normally or in the inexperienced group's case learn how to stream normally.
>>114655254don't worry next graduation wave coming soon
>>114655263>The bigger question is what this project is even entailing sinceNothing more. They can't give them 3D models until they become official holos. They can't get merch either. I don't know if they can collab with non-holos too.
ANOTHER FUWAMOCO 勝利I KNEEL TO 日本 SUPREMACY
>>114654444everyone who actually loves them has been doing jp reps since day one
>>114654135THEY ONLY PROTECT THE SMILES OF THE FUCKING JAPS
>>114655399Honey Glaze
>>114655437No nigga I love them but I dont have time to learn jap
They can finally be JP holos now
reminder that at first they applied to hololive jp and only settled into en as a compensation...
>>114655263>They will still do shit as ReGloss and FlowGlowWell of course, but Advent "does shit" too but they don't get multiple unique 3D outfits and live live concerts and stuff like that. To them being a regular gen will be a downgrade.
>>114655633They will almost guaranteed still do those unit projects and concerts and Cover will continue advertising them the same way they have been - just now under "Hololive" instead of a separate branch.ReGloss especially is very successful, they aren't going to just discard all that work because of a restructure.
>>114655733The first mover advantage is insane. FG streams way more, has higher ccv etc compared to regloss but some regloss are the ones getting all the stuff.
>>114655437This is cuckholdry.
i genuinely don't mind as long as jpbros let me watch
>>114655770"OH YEAH, THEY ARE HOLOLIVE EN, BUT IF YOU'RE A *TRUE* FAN YOU NEED TO FUCKING LEARN JAPANESE"
>>114655768Advent is more successful than either group and gets uhhhh, some MVs.>what about Justice/other ENs
>>114655768ReGloss' music is far more successful than FlowGlow's.Streams and CCV are only half the story as well, for example Raden has a ton of culture related sponsorships that no one else can tap into and Hajime gets insane Shorts/TikTok numbers from going viral over and over again.
>>114655858half of Advent is literally bottom of the barrel of EN
Fucking snakes. The last 3 weeks makes an awful lot of sense now doesn't it?
>>114655911That last tweet gloating that JP fans can now oshi them because they don't have to worry about the EN stuff has me feeling sick. But maybe they'll still do EN streams for us. The next month or so will be very telling whether it's worth it for EN to stay invested in the girls.
>>114655911I love Fuwamoco, but I'm tired of all the fucking JP catering.
>>114655898And the two you're talking about are still selling more merch than most of DEV_IS does. CCV isn't the most important metric.
>>114655971If you thought it was bad in the past imagine how much worse it's going to get now that they're in the hololive branch with all the JP members. They have to push their Japanese sololive coming up.
>>114655971Too bad, we're all stuck in the chair now
>>114655971Same but guess what? That’s all we’re about to get from now on.
>>114655552they should have been from the start desuno more EN hwore collabs onegai
I need to learn Japanese quick now anyone have suggestions?
I'll be blunt and say: On the face of it, I don't like this change.Feels like history is repeating itself from Niji ID/KR switching to just "Nijisanji." There was no public "You have to stream in JP now" declaration or whatever, but it was clear support for specific language things in KR/ID disappeared. It was a more subtle pressure to target JP audience, and it led to mass graduation ultimately.But hey, Niji is def not Holo. Maybe nothing will change, but it certainly feels like a loss of identity leading to it.I honestly get a feeling of this leading to pressure to target a JP audience more, because they're clearly the largest and with most financial return, and that will ripple through all, whether debuts, concerts, backend support, content released, etc..-- even if cover states that publicly nothing will change.Well, I watch JP content depending on the mood (mainly from Kanade and Korone), but mainly I watch EN content. It is what it is. I guess we'll see what comes from this one way or another. I've been watching a lot of indies specifically lately, but I still enjoy holo talents as a whole still.I don't want to be a doomer, but yeah, I don't like this change.
>>114656090>nowngmiyou can't build an ark when it's flooding already
>>114656062Fuwawa's sinful body is optimized for sex
>>114655813not hololive en anymore do your jp reps you lazy nigger
>>114655959EN label was always an unnecessary baggage in their weeb eyes...
Not my problem. You all had 3 years to do your reps. Best time to start was yesterday. Next best time to start is today.
>>114655971Anyone with two eyes and functioning brain could have predicted their trajectory from day one
>>114656090https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZEA54VJEdE&list=PL9987A659670D60E0&index=3
>>114656156don't forget mocotyan
>>114655911
>>114656151Most EN members other than Kiara have been positive about this change so far. The one who is the most happy seems to be Nerissa(and she is as burger as a EN can get). Give it a few months and see how it goes.
>>114656207Or I can just be same and stop caring about them if they don't want me to watch? It's entertainment I shouldn't have to work to enjoy it. We're the ones paying them. Without fans the entire company wouldn't exist so it's a shame they're acting like they're so entitled to us that we have to put in work to enjoy them.
>>114656151in practice nothing will change half of EN was barely active anyway and the rest will just do what they were doing before
>>114656307Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
>>114656324kek
>>114656295I forgive if she lets me suck on those fluffies
>you're holoEN SPEAK ENGLISH>you're holoEN SING IN ENLGISH>you're holoEN WATCH HOLLYWOOD SLOPget fucked LOL
this means they now have perms for a lot of jp games like toheart and school days
Damn I thought with all the doomposting it was actually something or at least a frame up. But it's quite literally nothing.
You did your junbi ... Right?
>>114656090do >>114656519
>>114656500In theory yes but I don't see them doing VN streams in japanese, unless it's a japanese stream. It would be too slow having to translate every line.
I find it funny that most members are posting walls of damage control or cope, and FWMC are just like "yeah we're hololive"
>>114656151lmao. no need to post his shit here. he's been complaining in this thread for weeks now.
>>114656558*I don't see them doing streams
>Kiara is depressed angry and mentally exhausted>FWMC "Yeah we're hololive now lol"I don't get why some of the girls' reactions are so extreme
>>114656596FWMC's reaction is one of the more tame ones. Look at nerissa for comparison.
>>114656638Kiara has been kicked to the bottom of the totem pole can't blame her
>>114656596>FWMC are just like "yeah we're hololive"no, they're busy begging for japs.
>>114656500Perms are still language specific. Merging branches doesn't change that. But yes they do have permission to play a lot more games in Japanese.
>>114656679Depending on the games, it might not be that bad. Like I don't care if DKC2 was in Japanese.
>>114656638Because at least for people like kiara and calli they spent the past 6 years working to prove hololive English was worth it as a standalone thing and that vtubers had an English audience and now it's completely erased from history because a Japanese suit said it was so?
>>114656673puppies were always begging either for jp ojisans, better merch sales ir views
>>114656648Yeah begging for JPs to watch is tame. HoloENs corpse is still warm and they are shitting on it. They make me fucking sick
>>114656679BAUSED, fuck EN localization
>>114656648essentially the same shit fuwamoco posted
>>114656443I do wonder how /jp/ is handling this change LOL
>>114656748it's a bau eats bau world
>>114656748>>114656648Biboo would never
>>114656777The big girls don'f care, the mid sized girls don't mind moving one or two numbers down, the "small" girls are the ones in actual danger
>>114656732>calliMori is optimistic about this change lol. So is Ina. The only one in Myth complaining and bitching about it is Kiara who you know, complains and bitches about everything.
>>114656638chicken has been seething about new gen success from day oneshe's basically forgotten now
>>114656638When is Kiara not depressed and doomposting? Boy who cried wolf and everything. I'll put more weight into the one who went on strike earlier this year because she felt like EN wasn't being treated well enough and is currently positive about this change.
>>114656638Kiara can't piggyback off of her DAISENPAI ORIGINAL HOLOLIVE ENGLISH FIRST GENERATION MYTH association anymore, now she's just just the runt of Hololive Myth and doesn't have an entire branch of other girls she can claim are all only their cause of her work
>>114656709Yeah, especially with their original hardware autism it could be a big help with retro stuff.Even more story driven retro games I wouldn't mind seeing in japanese, everyone watching them play old ass PS1 games already knows the story, we just want their reactions.
>>114656838I don't know, my read is she's doing the whole let's pretend it's sunshine and roses because I'm melting down internally and if I let that out it'll be bad because this is my job. She knows better than anyone that this makes things harder not easier for EN to get funding or support. She will probably be okay but there's no way this makes it better for most others. You can't tell me she's happy that something she help found is completely gone and forgotten now. They can't sell any merch or say hololive English on stream because it's a brand risk.
Shouldn't have gone all-in on K-pop.
>>114656638Yeah, I can understand being sad that the "holoEN" and "holoID" names are pretty much dead but it feels a little too dramatic to act like this
>>114656922kek that's exactly what it her problem is, isn't it
>>114656928Calli is above anyone She performed for Japanese Imperial family for god's sake
The only people I see doomposting are shitposters on /vt/, Kiara and holoID. This must mean this is one of the best changes to the company ever made.
>>114657016>holoIDReine decided to be more hopeful over the change. Other ID members are optimistic, with Kobo expressing her faith in god's to make this change good.
Ignore this I’m still processing but I just feel that something important was held inside the EN and ID specifications. It feels a bit like if they got rid of the “women’s” category at a sporting event. Like unity is great, but is the loss of equity along the way worth it?
>>114657136Sorry, guess it was only Ollie. Proves my point even more though.
>>114657136>Kobo expressing her faith in god's to make this change good.I didn't know Kobo believed in the big man above
>>114656638Fuwamoco is literally shitting on EN's corpse and begging the JP's to watch them almost immediatelyI guess the JP larp paid off for them
>>114657136Reine would be more popular if she removed that blue stuff on her upper body.
>>114657229>Personally, as a person of faith, I'm convinced that everything is already arranged by Him.
>>114657319zeus?
>>114657319How can someone in Indonesia think there is a god given the state of that country and region?
how are those nihongo reps coming up wuffian?
>>114657229She is unironically a devoted muslimWell as devoted a southeast asian can beThey are even less muslims than balkan muslims
>>114657136If HoloID is now just Holo does that mean they can finally slut it up in skimpy swimsuits or are they still bound by Indo anti-porn laws?
>>114657341God is known for punishing sinners
>>114657319holy bausedsaying this while indonesia is going up in flames is pretty funny though
>>114657341Imagine saying that when india exist.The fact I am not from that subcontinent proves there is a god that cares.
>>114657360That's actually what Iofi said. She can finally do more skimpy outfits without worrying about getting bonked by management.
>>114656838She is going with the program because there is no other way to go.I fucking hate this because it just proves that a general EOP audience isn't 'worth it' and this gives talents more wiggle room to cut into time spent entertaining said audience.
Fuwamoco would willingly sacrifice each and every single one of their EN Ruffians to Moloch personally if it meant "protecting the smile" of a single JPbroThey don't care about us, they always wanted to be JP, they literally applied to be JP first, got rejected and settled for EN as a participation trophy, now their larp finally paid off and they can go fully mask off with JP cocksucking
The holoID and holoEN discord servers were just nuked and everyone was moved to the new JP main one now
>>114657360Yes, if they move to Japan. The rest can go marry cousin Ahmed
>>114656838>>114656928>>114657406Mori is happy because she can dinally be horny for "short guys"
>>114657202she should be happy she even has a job
>>114657319baused Inshallah
>>114657441Did your indie whore's ex boyfriend tell you to have this opinion too?
>>114657512Nah this fag has been mindbroken since their 3d live concert and now is spamming the thread over nothing
Funny enough, at the early stages of Myth, it didn't feel like there was a real seperation. There was the EN branch title, but many of the Myth members collabed with JP just fine. Hell, Kiara (and Mori) had a TON of collabs with other JP members.What I think is funny is that this merger doesn't mean anything good for the EN fanbase. We likely lose more to talents we like attempting to garner JP fanbases (although it's nothing new for Ruffians) while there's no shot in hell JP losing the 'Hololive JP' title will try to garner EN fanbases like they did when EN exploded in popularity like originally.
>>114657441I think most en ruffians should be sacrificed actually
>>114657338You don't know about Barong, Balinese king of the spirits, leader of the hosts of good, and enemy of Rangda?
I don't understand why there's so many ID fans angry that they're losing their "identity", like do they mean the same identity that landed them below every EN and JP member?feels like throwing that away will help them more in the long run
>>114657675ID have always been ENlite. People shit on FWMC for doing JP streams. Go count how many EN streams Kaela or the others do. This rebranding is actually good for ID.
Why are korean ruffians always so aggressive?
>>114657675Even if it wasn't financially successful there's something to be said that they had 0 graduations and were able to represent Indonesia as a small but dedicated group. Now that's all completely gone. All the good vibes of the ID concert they had showing that Indonesia has fans and can have a successful concert is wiped from history and has no future. Now anything they do is just something under generic hololive which most people will take to mean Japan. They don't get to represent their culture and will probably get ignored as much or more than they already were now that they don't have a different branch. Someone looking up hololive isn't going to even know what language talents speak and will probably just see japanese and then fuck off not knowing they have or had indonesian and english members too.
>>114657638i only know if the two of them fuck you get shivers
>>114657806kek that's devious
>>114657771Because they can not speak Japanese and are scared.It's understandable. They are stressed, scared, horrified of the future.Cut them some slack.
>>114657771BAUSED Gookfian
I don't think much will change in the grand scheme of things, however announcing a new anime series that only has JP members so far doesn't exactly inspire confidence on the whole "equal" treatment stuff, pretty bad timing there
>>114657806Gigi is great
Korone removed the "hololive" from her twitter profile entirely she now just has "dog vtuber" i wonder what she means by this
>>114657806I dont get it
>>114657905I have no hope with this move. It smells like a shareholder decision.
>>114657956Nerissa doesn't even have hololive in her twitter name anymore
>>114657956Nothing. She has done troll moves like this before
>>114657806Now that collab makes sense. It was basically a goodbye to Hololive English like Hololive ID did the other day.
>>114657905Equal treatment when doing mergers is literally always just lip service and they're hoping people forget as the subtly and not so subtly cut out EN and ID from most things over the next year or so. That's how companies operate, it's a playbook as old as time. You can tell how young some people are by them acting like this merger is somehow different and totally for the right reasons.
>>114657771Japs didn't rape them enough
>>114657929No she isn't, she's part of the gen that killed EN
>>114657771Everyone knows the Koreans look at the Japanese with eyes of suspicion.
they should watch 雲のむこう、約束の場所
>>114658151EN ascended into the main branch though
holy shit koe no katachi is 10 years old
>>114657929she's chink hwore
This is actually pretty goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iWKB-Tq8aA
at long last, fwmc became japanesebut at what cost?
Why aren't FUWAMOCO introducing themselves to ID fans too? I thought this change was a good thing because everyone and all fans are together? Why isn't Miko tweeting a greeting to EN fans now that she's not in holoJP?
>>114658582I love HoloDori just because we get some good originals with great MVs from it
>>114658582>>114658706>ASMR whispers and suggestive bau bausholodori is good actually
>>114658620
>>114658732It's a really lewd song.
>>114658582>>114658763Yes, it's kino
>>114658693Why aren't they doing it in Spanish if they want to be global? ID is useless.
Fuwawa is living her best life
>drastically reducing the time they spend with their fans>becoming even more emotionally distant and unavailable>constant "tech issues" and cancelations, but only for EN streams>sudden increase in JP collabs>refuse to address any of it>culminates in changing their 3D anniversary to JP time instead of ENI've never been a JP schizo. I've been watching hololive for almost 7 years and I love the JP talent more than the EN talent. I've picked up enough Japanese to watch JP streams and understand most of what is happening. But FUWAMOCO were my favorites in EN.But their behavior has been so egregious this past year that it can no longer be denied: they are abandoning their EN fans. That is their plan.All of you said the reason they changed their anniversary time to JP was because they wanted to promote a sololive announcement.But that was clearly wrong because it turned out to be just an album.And now we know the actual reason. It's because with the merger, they plan to shift their content and fanbase to Japanese fans. The increased JP collabs over the past month while completely doing away with EN solo streams and changing the time of their pre-recorded anniversary live to JP primetime was their way of attempting to integrate into JP, which is how they now view themselves.They will deny this, they will conjure meaningless platitudes, and they will insist that they are still EN focused, but they are liars. They already changed all their content and how they interact with their fans.FUWAMOCO have known about this merger for a long time. All of EN has. All of their recent decisions have revolved around strategically betraying and abandoning their EN audience over the long term. FUWAMOCO are cynical, two-faced liars, who have never been honest even once with their fans a single time they have been in hololive.All of this is theatrics to them. These past three years have been nothing but them figuring out how to trick their fans out of as much of their time, money, support, and love as possible before they abandon us in the worst way possible.In hindsight, all their recent behavior finally makes sense, and it is even more disgusting than I could have thought possible.
I need time to process this. Ueh...
>>114658693None of the JP members introducing themselves to EN and ID fans is a big telling what this merger is.
>>114658693Why play dumb on purpose. This is only good for Japanese fans, even if they only have fleeting interests in EN talents 'introducing themselves'.All of this equates to 'Sorry original fans, you weren't enough, get bent'.
Just saw the news. This feels like the worst possible thing that could happen to the EN fans, and even more so for EN Ruffians. FWMC were always getting a bit too close to pandering to the JPs more than they should, but they were still "HoloEN" and they acted like that was something they were proud of, so it was fine, but now that they aren't part of HoloEN and everyone is just "Hololive" I get the feeling that FWMC won't make any effort into keeping appearances anymore. I guess it also explains why they've been spamming so many JP streams recently while only doing 1-2 (collab) streams at most in English. I won't lie, I haven't been happy at all with the way have been acting since May, but I was still willing to support them if they didn't do any big changes and eventually went back to streaming regularly, but now this...? I'll wait, see what they do, and hope for the best, but I have a really bad feeling about this. I'm seriously considering oshihening if they start doing regular JP streams while they neglect their EN fans. I won't cry about it, I've already been feeling more and more detached from them after everything that happened this year. It is what it is. I probably won't make any more posts if the worst happens so I'll preemptively say my goodbyes.I've been a regular on this thread ever since FWMC's debut. There were good times and bad times, threads full of faggots shitposting nonstop and threads were we all had a good time, but it was fun. Time flew in these last 3 years. It was a good run. I said it multiple times in the past and I'll say it again; the day I stop watching FWMC is the day I stop watching vtubers. It was nice knowing you retards.
>>114659067I agree with pretty much all of this. According to the others, they found out in mid July which lines up with when FUWAMOCO really went into JP/ JST stream overdrive.
the fuck is going on here
>>114659067same post different day
ueh... I think I'm going to watch some old streams and pretend it's okay. I wish we could do a final send off watchalong together in freecat but we'll get banned by the new Nazi JP mods.
>>114659154Everything is gay, EN is fuck, bend over and keep buying kaigainiki.
>>114659206They don't care if overseas bros leave because they're being replaced by 5 JP tourists that think they're cute cats
BAUSED
No True Wuffian would be complaining because to be a TRUE wuffian you would have learnt Japanese.
>>114659247Isn't that the k*rean menhera chick that said she was going to cover headquarters once
>>114659130I somewhat feel the same. I'll wait and see how things go, but it sure doesn't make me feel good.
>>114659006>nothing will changeWhen did we hear that before?In fact, that's the problem. This past year has been absolutely terrible and they have thrown away everything that made me care about them. The fact that everything has changed so much over the past 12-18 months and that it won't ever get better is why I will never trust a single thing they say ever again.
Damn that 3d live really broke him that bad
how many loops is this guy going to come up with, jesus. why even waste so much of his time doing this.
Avatarfagging attention whores are NOT happy!
>>114659355Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
>>114659362But stream times will never change and fuwamoco morning is just on hiatus and they really want to do more retro game streams and schedules will come back and they will be doing monthly membership wallpapers for the doggy pack and
>>114659006>what doesnt change: everything elseso...still no streams?
They've all known about this for a long, long time.And it means no more EN support.It's clearly why the official hololive EN account recently announced it would stop making 3D animations.
>>114659562Kek
>>114659562The only thing from them that's consistent.
>>114659575>And it means no more EN support.Yup. This is the reason Kiara and Mori were doomposting so much around June. Serendipity was the last ever HoloEN concert.
>>114659575Support for what? ENs don't do anything kek
>>114659575>the official hololive EN account recently announced it would stop making 3D animations.Never happened, they just put holoEN3DRepeat on hiatus(and now we can see why). There's been multiple animations since then by the way.
>>114659575Hologra already includes EN talents. So do those 3D shorts they do on the official channel. It's kinda like how fes already has EN and ID but you don't see "holoJP annual concerts"They were putting more money to see if they could grow the less profitable branches. They couldn't. So now they're being treated like everyone else. It's not like JP is keeping their exclusive concert, they never had it. Or you could argue Bloom and Blue Journey were that, but those have been dead for many years already.
>>114659665i dont think you understand how taxing streaming games on the internet is on the human body
My twin demon guard dog oshi replied to me, and now they have cute holodori swimsuits, a dangerously cute new orisong & MV, and Mekurumeku Rendezvous finally got added too. Is this a dream?
>>114659708>It's not like JP is keeping their exclusive concert, they never had it.Every single holofes and sololive in Japan is basically a "JP exclusive concert" because of how absurdly easy it is for JP fags to go to those when compared to the average non-japanese fans.
Such a corporate bullshit move. I just hope FWMC and the rest of EN aren't hurt by it.
>>114659708they kept EN half dead for 2 years after the graduation wave instead of getting new gen asap of course they couldn't grow
>>114659817So Irys and Bae's concert is JP exclusive? What a retarded argument.
>>114659817Is a DEV_IS concert in NA a holoEN concert? That's retarded and you know it, stop acting like a dumb bitch on purpose.
>>114659843they will be thriving in this new structure if anything
>>114659843>I just hope FWMC and the rest of EN aren't hurt by it.
>>114659843I'm sure FWMC are delighted. They can finally stop forcing themselves to act like EN vtubers and stream in japanese as much as they want.
>>114659883Because Justice totally revived EN. What are you talking about? New gens don't make a branch alive if they don't do well.
kek this mindbreaks the "holoEN need to stream in English" shitposter
>>114659883Accelerating didn't really save nijiEN or starsEN. It's an option but not guaranteed to have results.
>>114659974It kills every "hololive ENGLISH" or "holoEN btw" shitpost.
>>114659919Essentially yes. The first wave of lottery for IRyS was nearly entirely JP tickets. She got really mad and yelled at staff and surprise surprise a few more en were lucky to get tickets in the second wave. But still many of her longtime fans didn't get tickets.
Where's that fag who said they'd never look at the 3rd anniversary hashtag. They're literally liking all of them.
>>114659843This is probably a good thing for them, IRyS, Bae, and maybe Mori. It means the shackles of the EN title won't supposodly scare away potential new JP fans and they can openly do more JP content without people asking why their channels are becoming increasingly Japanese.
>>114659974This will just reveal if FWMC were actually being honest when they said most of their streams would be in English or if they were blatantly lying and using their EN ruffians as stepping stones.
>>114660035They didn't like any of Nae's KEK.
>>114659843The ones not in Japan will definitely be affected in some way.
>>114660035I was one of them and I'm shocked. I guess they must be feeling bad about all of the changes and seeing people crying on twitter about losing EN.
>>114660035>They're literally liking all of them.theyre working so hardhope they take a few days off streaming
>>114659067Kiara mentioned she didn't know about the merger until after Serendipity
>>114659843FUWAMOCO are one of the few talents in EN that will be fine because it changes nothing really for them outside of them no longer having to do two concerts a year with EN concerts shut down. So they should be able to do more streams in Japanese starting next year while continuing along as they had been. It really hurts ID and a lot of EN because they'll basically get 0 support now if they aren't willing to submit to management and japanese work bullshit.
>>114660101
>>114660082>they must be feeling bad about all of the changes and seeing people crying on twitter about losing EN.They are lovebombing then?
i predict this will be bad for the whole ex-EN group
>>114660139those guys are working so hardhope they take a few days off
>>114660050>they can openly do more JP content without people asking why their channels are becoming increasingly JapaneseY-yay...
>>114659965it did for a while but having people spread out through different timezones doesn't help
I didn't get a like thoughWhere's mine
>>114660196You think I like it just because I'm being realistic about what it means for them?
>>114660205Ansem...
>>114660135Again support for what?
From a business perspective, how are new English speaking fans supposed to become interested in hololive?They will look at hololive and see that the vast majority of their content is Japanese. Before, newcomers would have a convenient delineation between who spoke English and who didn't, but now they are just supposed to know?I think this is a big mistake that is going to further harm hololive's ability to market itself in the West. This will assuredly impact most English speaking members' viewership by alienating any potential new fans and reducing their discoverability. This decline in popularity will then be used to deny English speaking members any future investment, just like what happened to holostars.This isn't just the end of holoEN as a branch, it is the end of all former holoEN members' ability to market themselves to potential new fans.
>>114660141They tend to do that when everyone is sad. Like that one post they made on the doggypack hours before Ame announced her graduation and they were hearting every comment out of the blue.
>>114660266That's because this isn't about the West
>>114660266All good questions but unfortunately none of them are relevant because cover does not care about anyone but the Japanese audiences. They assume any international fans are bonuses now that overstayed their welcome and don't deserve any additional care or content.
>>114660306Yagoo literally just said that he wants more Western expansion of hololive.
>>114660266EN and ID got handed the window seat. FWMC will be fine but I'm not optimistic about other members like Kiara.
>>114660266western fans only watch yuribait sex joke clips
Maybe this solve something business wise in the backgroundBut for the actual fans?Hell we still say "gen" and will ask for a new EN gen for example Also if they make a new gen surely it won't be mixed 1 ES 1 EN 1 JP 1 KR 1 FR for example, obviously one gen will always be able to talk to one another
>>114660390Yes as anime characters like umamusume not as vtubers or actual streamers. Expansion in the west = let's pump up those gacha numbers in the west.
>>114660399>I'm not optimistic about other members like Kiara.do you think she'll.. you know?
>>114660266All I'm reading here is that new fans will be the same kind of people who became fans before the "holoEN fandom" went to shit.
>>114660390>WantsYeah...
>>114660266You're mistaken in thinking that anyone outside of the non-JP speakers, ID, and Kiara are thinking about the EOP. Every month it feels like they're showing me personally that they don't want my money or my time.
>>114660437You have a good point. Maybe what yagoo has in mind is to push holodori and some of the more popular ones like pekora and migger in the west.
>>114660505It is hilarious you used ID in your example when IDfags themselves felt betrayed by holoID pandering to the EOPs.
>>114660390Sure pal, Yagoo really cares about the west ogey?
>>114660424>Maybe this solve something business wise in the backgroundI feel like this will just overcomplicate things for the girls in ID and EN. It makes sense for the branches to be separate, they have different languages and cultures, how the fuck are things supposed to work out if everyone is part of the same thing? How will perms work? How will EN members do "x" or "y" if they don't have any dedicated support?
>>114660505Yet every month you are still here spamming this thread. Curious.
It took a little bit of time for me to get my thoughts together.hololive EN changed my life. I've been able to accomplish things that I never dreamed of. I've been given the opportunity to live my dream. But mostly importantly, hololive EN introduced me to some of the most incredible people I've ever met.To me, hololive EN is family so it would be a lie to say that this merge doesn't affect me. Saying goodbye to hololive English was something I never thought I would have to do and yeah, it's goddamn hard. I understand that a lot of people are anxious, upset and unsure. I think that is completely valid. It's a big change for everyone - talent and viewer alike. But I would like to hope that we don't lose sight of what's most important: the love and community we've created over these last 6 years. There's a lot to be upset about but for me, I choose to believe that things will be okay because honestly that's all I can do. I hope that this merger will bring about new changes that will empower ALL talents - JP, EN and ID. I hope that this is the right step in building a better tomorrow for existing talents and for new talents yet to come. To me, nothing has changed except the name. In my heart, I will forever be a member of hololive English. I will continue working hard to be a bridge between JP, EN and ID because that is the talent that I've always strived to be. To my community, I'm so grateful to everyone who has supported me in my hololive English journey and I can only hope that you will join us in this new chapter of hololive. Thank you for being here with us! I can't wait to see where we go from here
>>114660424Just need to hire bilinguals for the EN-representing talents, which would be to their benefit anyway.Would be kinda cool to get a mixed gen like that. Kanade is already korean but I don't think any of her content is, so someone like her but who actually does korean streams at least half of the time would match this new direction well.Also if they're getting rid of gens and focusing on units instead, they don't need a fixed number of debuts, they could just debut two or three new EN talents and let them form new units, instead of having to find 4/5 new people and have them work together.I personally prefer having gens, but I also recognize the issue of Council being a two-person gen and them needing a new unit in the form of Promise so that it wouldn't look too depressing.
>>114660578>How will EN members do "x" or "y" if they don't have any dedicated support?They won't going forward. Everyone fight for the same resources now.
before>hey yagoo can we have en5now>hey yagoo can you hire 5 more holos for hololive who all happen to speak english and could be considered a group within hololive
>>114659544Japanese ojisan cocksleeves
>>114660618>Just need to hire bilinguals for the EN-representing talentsThen it'll be FWMC 2.0, they'll pander to the EN audience a bit before abandoning them for the bigger JP audience.
>>114660437That is not a good long-term strategy. Interest in any particular Gacha can be very fleeting, and in holodori's case, is most likely bolstered and maintained by the desire of pre-existing hololive fans to participate in a game featuring their oshi.If interest in hololive or their individual members wanes, then that means holodori will decline in profits as well.Most gacha enter end of service within only a couple years.
>>114660591Bros knew about this for months but only thought about writing something now. holoEN professionalism, everyone.
>>114660390That statement was vague. It could mean a lot of things like the new anime or more collaborations with companies.
They did it... They finally sabotaged hololive English so they could join JPI kneel, FWMC. Those 3 JP auditions vs. the 1 EN audition that got you in now prove it.
>>114660627Good. Maybe the runts like Iofi and Kiara shouldn't be propped up by the others any further...
>>114660578EN/ID simply won't be able to get as many opportunities without the dedicated support. There's some like FUWAMOCO and Calli who probably can still get a decent amount because they're already established in JP and have been playing that game but people like Gigi/Shiori are completely shit out of luck and probably will be left out of basically everything now unless people like FUWMAOCO sacrifice all their free time and career advocating for the others, which they probably won't and shouldn't do. Merging lower performing branches to main ones in business never ever ends up good for most people in the smaller branches getting pulled in. They say they will adjust culture to norms that work for everyone but what it always ends up being is the people brought in are forced to adapt to the existing standards that probably don't work with the way that they are used to and shit goes to hell until people blow up, are broken into submission or leave.
>>114660591it took a little bit of time to fire up chatGPT
>>114660627Now I understand why Kiara and Mori were doomposting so much... I can't help but laugh at the fags that said they were just being melodramatic.
>>114660681I know this has been an anti thread for over 2 years now, but it's still too much to post "FWMC 2.0" in the FWMC thread and want people to read that as a negative thing.
>>114660670answer remains the same
so when they said they were making more changes of their own they definitely mean taking out all the _en parts of their social media handles don't they
>>114660736Mori came around. She is pretty optimistic about it.
>>114660712FWMC wonhololive wonRuffians wonYou lostinged
>>114660745Be honest, do you seriously think FWMC won't start pandering to the JPs a LOT more after this? Hire more bilingual girls like them and they'll follow their footsteps.
>>114660721>Merging lower performing branches to main ones in business never ever ends up good for most people in the smaller branches getting pulled inWorked out very well for both INNK Music talents, as well as Mikochi.
>>114660808stupid dota player
>>114660681IRyS somehow manages to balance her JP and EB sides well
Indians need to work on their English before posting here.
>>114660721Gigi and Shiori are not trying to start music career so they'll be fine streaming video games
>>114660814>Adding in 3 people is the same as trying to forcibly integrate 50+ talents and staff that are from entirely different cultures, literally
>>114660793There's no reason to be dramatic about it unless you're the "waaahh the good old times.. remember when it was just myth.. just the 5, they were the pioneers...."Oh right that's exactly how Kiara is all the time when she's nostalgic about the ol days of EN starting, obnoxious
>>114660712>destroys Hololive EN just they could escape EN containment and reach promised landholy baused dedication
>>114660808>Ruffians won*JP ruffians
>>114660813I do not give a shit about JPschizos and their feelings. More ENs following in FWMC's footsteps would be excellent.
So that's why FUWAMOCO stopped caring about being bridges, they knew that EN was being blown up soon.
>>114660871All ruffians. True ruffians love hololive and their collabs with holoJP and want more of them. Such as the retro weekend with Korone, ASMR dojo with Noel or VN talk with Miko.
I hope FUWAMOCO don't forget where they came from.
>>114660851Obviously not the same but every precedent we have for this company was a positive change, ignoring that to push your headcanon is stupid.
>>114660911EN ruffians won't understand the JP streams, and that's going to be the majority of FWMC's streams from now on. EN ruffians lost 2 great talents to the JPs.
You can tell this thread is 90% tourists who just come here to shitpost and use it as a hololive anti thread considering everyone is talking about something that happened to all of hololive and not about FWMC's new song.
>merge holoEN and holoID into hololive>homoJP and homoEN remains separateExplain.
>>114660813And? Do you think the shitposters in this thread care? They'll just spin it as the worst thing in the world or 'Le basado baused KINO' while anyone who cares enough will adjust or will just stop watching them.
>>114660911>retro weekend with KoroneFWMC vs OkaKoro in a bunch of different retro games that support 4 players on original hardware would be the most key know weekend ever.
>>114660923>every precedent we have for this company was a positive changeCover created Holostars.
>>114660923I mean I hope that you are right, I really do. I just think the cover and hololive back then and whatever shareholder run mess it is now are completely different things. Maybe I'm worrying for nothing though and somehow YAGOO is a miracle worker that breaks all previous business conventions and history.
>>114660895It explains why this year has been so different compared to other years.
>>114660911BAUSED
>>114660078how would you know?
>>114660958homoJP is officially defunded, there's nothing to merge. Making a new logo would be investing money they already announced they wouldn't invest.
>>114660958they forgot they're still hired
>>114660984I know using the internet is tricky, but follow the reply chain. Precedent for merging branches, not "everything this company has ever done."
>>114660919They've completely stopped streaming English single player games and dramatically reduced all interaction with their EN fans within the last few months.Did you really think there was no reason behind that?Remember where they came from? FUWAMOCO are burning their house down so they can never come back.
>>114660986It's less about him pulling a miracle and more reading the writing on the wall. The negative reactions to this ignore the present reality. People weren't fearing a branch merge whent hey were dooming about no more EN concerts, they just thought holoEN would continue to exist but not get funding anymore.The name was never relevant, people were worried about the trajectory of EN vtubing for quite a while now. They're doing something to counter it, it may be good, it may change nothing, it may even be negative, but it's a response, not the original cause.
>>114660948Sounds like a skill issue. You had years to learn the absolute basics, I've seen actual retards do it just by soaking it up through hololive. No excuses. Get left behind.
>>114661050I think the way they abandoned the doggy pack also has to do with this. The last time they talked in membership about doing more JP content they got a lot of EN fans criticizing them. They know a lot of members would be scared of possible changes and ask FWMC what they want to do, and instead of dealing with it they are just acting like the doggy pack doesn't exist.
>>114660919I did my reps so I don't really care kek
>>114661218I guess it is. Shame that JP fans can get whatever they want while the EN fans eat shit, but oh well. I won't deny I was a fool for trusting FWMC's words.
>>114661286You should be blaming yagoo instead. He sees no future in EOPs.
>>114661160That's a fair enough take. I'm just rooted in the idea of losing more of what I've liked in EN, both to less streams and more JP streams.
>>114661237>instead of dealing with it they are just acting like the doggy pack doesn't existThe familia streams...
>>114661237>The last time they talked in membership about doing more JP content they got a lot of EN fans criticizing themWhy would you lie?
>>114661237>just acting like the doggy pack doesn't existProbably smartest for them financially. Most people will just stay membered to keep a streak unless the talents do something outright crazy to make people leave.
>>114661237>I think the way they abandoned the doggy pack also has to do with this.KEK good one bro, try to add It Takes Two to the loop too, that would be funny.
>>114661250kek baused fuck en
>>114661325retard
Always liked Fuwamoco but rarely got to watch them live due to the time they stream hoping now they can dump the EOP scum they will stream during Japanese hours and I can watch them live more.
>>114661325Did you memory-hole the BP2 just like FWMC?
Monsters Inc left at the right time.
at least homos are getting shut down by the end of the year
>>114661421GGs shitposter, you won. FWMC felt ashamed of being HoloEN.
>>114660984NTA.I know you're a newfag, and by that, I mean you probably have *only* been watching hololive for less than seven years, but when holostars debuted, it was treated as a completely seperate company. It wasn't until around late 2020 that Cover made an announcement saying that hololive and holostars would be merged under a new company called "hololive Productions". What this meant internally was that collabs between hololive and holostars members would no longer have to receive advanced permission from multiple managers, and instead, anyone in hololive productions could collab with who they wanted. Additionally, in the same announcement they said that no one would be forced into collabing with anyone they didn't want to collab with, and so fans should respect the choices of their talents.I don't watch holostars by the way; I'm simply recounting this part of the company' history in order to provide a counter example to your incorrect claim.
>>114661325As much as I want to forget BP2 it did happen.
>>114661481They already announced a homo concert for next year, IIRC
>>114661455Wait you are seriously talking about the stream from 2+ years ago? I thought your shitposts were about how they knew about this months ago and now are changing this month. Are you seriously that retarded?
>>114661481The only positive out of this news.
>>114661481stars already have a full branch concert confirmed for next year which is more than holoEN's corpse is getting
>>114661508BP2 was not the last time they talked about wanting to do more JP content, they say this every single time they get JP superchats and during JP streams.
>>114661503My queensThe age of the EOP is over
>>114661503>emdash
>>114661567It's still online only, compared to that EN is still getting more with all the gen anniversary lives. I wouldn't trade that Advent medley for a full branch online-only concert.
>>114661536??? I don't follow. Read the post you were replying to, FWMC knew what happened during the BP2, it doesn't matter how long ago it was, and FWMC obviously knew about the merge.
>>114654078Why does fuwamoco hate EN?Weren't they raised in the US?
>>114661618>AI translation types like an AIno...
Leave this thread if you don’t speak Japanese BAU BAU
Maybe an unpopular opinion but I suspect that this whole merge thing will end up being a nothingburger.
>>114661638They have 0 knowledge about anything western, somehow they avoided every single western cartoon and movie when growing up.
>>114661638Not a single good EN was raised in the US.
I don't even want to buy gems for their holodori outfits because I feel like such shit with the EN erasure.
>>114661638Canada actually. But no idea, really. I thought they cared about the EN ruffians but I guess they didn't.
>>114661638The absolute state of shitposters, wow
>>114661678The biggest consequence will be what happens to enreco and holoEN concert? Are they going to can enreco? Are they going to make holoEN concert into something like a rotation among all talents?
>>114661696If you actually liked FWMC instead of being a selfish sack of manure you'd be happy for them.
>>114661694>They have 0 knowledge about anything western, somehow they avoided every single western cartoon and movie when growing upJesus christ no wonder they seemed retarded
>>114661621Okay I know it's hard to learn English comprehension in India but the first reply said they have dramatically reduced all interaction with their EN fans within the last few months, then someone replied the way they abandoned doggy pack also has to do with this. You are talking about a stream that happened 2+ years ago, why would that have anything to do with how they have abandoned the doggy pack these recent months.
>>114661717I like FUWAMOCO when they stream at a time I can watch and especially in a language I can understand. I don't get what's controversial about that
Where are the shitposters coming from?
>>114661718They play dumb sometimes and do have some knowledge, although it's not much.
>>114661740So you are selfish and don't have a shred of love, got it.
>>114661694>somehow>*turn on TV*>*western cartoon is on*>*turn off TV*A familiar experience to any weeb born in the 90s.
>>114661696>he didn't grind out 50k gems by playing
>>114661678>suspect that this whole merge thing will end up being a nothingburgerFor most talents? Maybe, but this is going to change a LOT for FWMC. They don't have to force themselves to stream mostly in English anymore, they can now freely spam as many JP streams as they want without getting called out for it.
>>114661694>How did you know I'm a tourist.
>>114661237It's over for EN Ruffians, they only care for JPfags nowI mean it isn't surprising, they applied to be JP 3 times before settling for EN
How did shitposters even come up with "applied to be JP 3 times" anyway?
>>114661775NTA, but if FWMC don't care about me then I won't care about them. They are streamers, it's not my obligation to support them.
>>114661286I trusted Fuwamoco that they would protect our smiles, apparently that pledge was exclusive to JP, EN can eat shit I guess.
>>114661638being raised in the US seems like a good enough reason kek
>I care about FUWAMOCO so little I still don't understand the ultra basic japanese holos use in collabs just say you hate them then
>>114661779Wut? I watched a shit ton of cartoons, played JRPGs and RPGs, stupid western shooters, and watched tons of anime in my life. Just because they have extreme autism about Japan doesn't mean other weebs from their same era are just as stupid and single-minded. Cartoons and Jap cartoons are great.
Waiting for the nuke.
>>114661775I'm happy for them having whatever they want, that's not what we were talking about. But as a fan no I'm not happy when they stop creating content I enjoy. Why the fuck would I be happy to lose something I loved and enjoyed?
>>114661840Because they openly talked about it.
>>114661868I love them, I always did my best to make time in my shit schedule to watch as much as I couldNow I'm expected to learn a whole ass language for vtubers that were supposed to be EN????
two nukes were not enoughplease do the needful, sir trump
Waiting to roll for those giant floofies
>>114661638Kek we got a live one here.
>>114661840They told that story often newfriend.
>>114661868Why should I bother learning japanese when it's not spoken outside of japan?
>>114661801Shiori had to explain them who scooby doo was, from spongebob they only knew the name.
I feel like this is fuwamoco's fault. Nobody else but them would be happy about not being called English anymore. Nice going ruffians. Weird ass transracial delusional gaijin women.
>>114661899Are you a "metalhead" if you listen to metal as much as any other genre? Usually this kind of term is reserved to people who follow it as more of a lifestyle than an average interest.
>>114661937>>114662002Timestamp?
>>114661740Bau bau don’t let the door hit your EOP ass on the way out!
>>114662067Fuck off newfag. Either that or you aren't a ruffian at all.
>>114662014They should do a watchalong of that live action movie together KEKMoco-chan would cry
>>114656922This
>>114662067I'm not going to look for one. They mentioned it many times, it's common knowledge.
>>114661740They hate your stupid en ass
>>114662091>>114662111I accept your concession, discordfriends.
>>114662030Weeb was always used to describe fans of anime. Wapanese was always used to describe the kind of ilk that surrounded /jp/.
>>114661726>You are talking about a stream that happened 2+ years agoIndeed. A stream that happened 2 years ago but they still clearly feel bad about. They talked about literally every single stream they've done during the 1k video celebration stream (I think?) a few months ago and they conveniently skipped the BP2 instead of talking about it. >why would that have anything to do with how they have abandoned the doggy pack these recent monthsLet me make it easier to understand:>FWMC do BP2>backlash in the comments>FWMC feel bad about it and learn that the doggy pack is very critical of big changes like that>it's june 2026, FWMC know about the big changes that are going to happen and they know they'll end up doing a lot more JP content in the near future>if they are active in the doggy pack they'll inevitably have to talk about those changes or be forced to see all the concerned ruffians asking if things are going to change, so they instead decide to leave the doggy pack alone and act like it doesn't exist
So long, EN suckers!
>>114662141You're lazy newblud
>>114662010The girls you claim to love live there and love Japan and everything about it
>>114654078THEY LOVE US
>>114662014>Likes star wars>Watched their dad play WOW when young>Favorite movie is princess switch This is just off the top of my head and they are pretty secretive about their PL but I don't know how not knowing what scooby doo is means they have literally 0 knowledge about anything western. This is the lowest bait this thread loops about.
>>114662146>alwaysWeeb is short for weeaboo, which was literally the same thing as wapanese and derogatory from its inception. Now it's trendy to be a weeb so we get larpers and shit but back then nobody who would self identify as "weeaboo" was just "a fan of anime"The one that had a milder conotation was "otaku" but even then for anyone from the outside it was still derogatory.Or at least that's how it was where/when I grew up.
Hello ruffians!Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!Day 1126: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. No new cards for Anki, I'm just maintaining what I've learned so far. For immersion I've watched one episode of an anime.FUWAMOCO love!BAU BAU!
>>114662014They were putting it on they know what that stuff is they just hate English language media ao much they wish it didn’t exist
They GENUINELY used EN as a stepping stone to larp as Japanese as hard as possible. I've said this since the beginning and it only proves more true over time. Awful women.
>>114662183That's why they were called Hololive EN
>>114662101>scrabbyueh I don't like it I don't like it
They won.
>>114662162
>>114662240You are based bau bau! Let’s enjoy JP only streams without these paupers!
>>114660919They already have little cuck ruffianThey are giddy to have lost the EN label, you were their stepping stone to Japan
>>114662202They like Star Trek more, THOUGHBEITStar Trek is spiritually japanese.
All the annoying people I know of hate the changeso it's a good change
>>114662171Great fanfic but it completely falls apart due to the fact you don't watch streams and that 10 months ago they had another big announcement that had massive changes, even bigger than the BP2 where they had a members stream to talk about it.
if I knew japanese why wouldn't I just watch better JP members
>>114662319BAUSED
>>114662202>Runescape players>Cut down real trees for Christmas>Pumpkin Spice>DARUDE SANDSTORMThey're westernized.
have they ever been called out for their japanese larping? imagine how easy they can be mindbroken. nothing will change the fact they're white canadians in their 30s
zannie and the tracer won big time with more streams in their timezones now
>>114662342this
I just realized: this means EN and ID won't get their own slightly different variations in idol outfits for holofes anymore. Eveyone will have the same design. That's kind of a bummer.
>>114662342name one chumKEK
>>114662263KEK PLEASE SHIORI MAKE THEM WATCH IT
>>114662363Moco-chan genuinely believes she's a Japanese Primary School student. Fuwawa knows the truth but doesn't want to hurt her.
i'll keep doing my reps but i will oshihen to a cute native girlfuck you fuwamocoyou can change branches but you can't change your genes
This is all Gura's fault. If she would have stuck around they could have kept milking the cash cow and keep en alive
>>114662202A cute indie watched Star Wars with me and got a lot of + points for thatWhen will FWMC do it?
Did they project your smile? They certainly protected mine today!
>>114662342You're free to. JP integrates well and regularly do events and mingle with each other. The holobox is a huge part of the company's appeal. I recommend beocming a hololive fan one day, it's pretty cool.
>>114661696>>114661783If I haven't downloaded the game yet can I just reroll the first free roll until I get them, or they aren't in that starting pool?
>>114662445Yeah I actually like FUWAMOCO and Hololive so I'm good
>>114662445The only thing they protect anymore is the key to the ruffians' bank accounts
>>114662342You can'tbecause HoloJP doesn't exist anymore you dummy lol silly anon
>>114662360>Pumpkin SpiceThat was the most white woman moment by Mococo kek.
>>114662363They're not zoomers, they didn't grow up when liking anime was accepted. So they probably got insulted over that daily, yes.
As a fan of hololive and enjoyer of collabs with the great holoJPs this is fantastic. Plus the absolute SEETHE from the EOPs here is just, man this might be Christmas.
>>114662461Not sure if there are still shitloads of free starter gems, but there should be enough where rerolling could get you both if you tried hard enough
>>114662230Here, on 4chan. You're not wrong that outside of these walls, weeb in the 00's was someone really interested in Japan and coupled in Wapanese, but I think the general consensus slowly shifted as anime became more readily accessable to the non-torrenters and netflix-types.
>>114662517>NOOOOOO I WANT SOMEONE TO MAKE IT FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i just looked at the lyrics for the holodori song and what the acutal fuck why are they begging to be pet that's so lewd i thought htey didn't like to pet too but here they are thirsting lewdly for pets and whispering all hot like
All the other (former) EN members are scheduling streams to talk to and reassure their fans about what's happening.FUWAMOCO are going to ghost us and leave Ruffians to rot instead, like always.
>>114662445>project
>>114662574Of course they'll never say any of this in English so it doesn't apply to you or any of us.
>>114662576I dont think KFP were reassured much lol
They promised nothing would change outside of the intro btw, let's see if they keep this promise.>What changes:>- Our intro goes from “hololive English Advent” to “hololive Advent”>What doesn’t change:>- Everything else
>>114662618Yeah but kiara is retarded so who cares
>>114662342Guess what? If they decide to really lean into Japanese and do streams more often at the JP prime time, they'll figure that one out real quick. Don't worry though, they'll be right back to the EN side asking for money by bombarding retards with fake platitudes.
>>114662618That makes me happy. Please go join your shitty indie avenger friends already, I know you want to become a semi fleshie anyway.
>>114662600Now that the branches are merged I hope they can finally admit in english they buy lewd doujins of themselves like they told Peko and Marine.
>>114662576BASED BASED BASED disdain for filthy EOPs they always had my heart
>>114662618Commiserate then.Regardless, FUWAMOCO are going to ghost again because Ruffians never actually meant anything to them and they don't care if their fans are worried about what is happening.
I can forgive a lot but the way they have completely pretended like the doggy pack doesn't exist really does not sit well with me. They didn't even have an encore part of the concert for members like they did all the other times.
>>114662576>FWMC doing EN solo streamsLmao. Jokes aside, maybe they'll do a JP stream later to talk about it.
Why did they take their mask off so fast after the announcement?
>>114662559Mococo is a fuzzy cumslut.
>>114662677FWMC fans are not worried though
>>114662574I'm going to listen to this with Lui's lines editted out for all my future play sessions
Why is louis like this?
>>114662638FUWAMOCO should become semi fleshie too so I can buy gravure books of them in swimsuits while they're still young enough.
>>114662683If they post something in the doggy pack they'll have to confront all the dedicated EN fans that are really worried about the future. FWMC prefer sending the message by slowly doing more and more JP content until all the disappointed EN fans leave.
>>114662734Only actual whores would sell gravure sets of themselves
>>114662751kek
>>114662574SEX WITH FLUFFY AND FUZZY!
>>114662777FWMC would whore themselves out if the JPs asked them to
>>114662777evieleafie....
>>114662658Weird larp.If you could actually understand Japanese, you'd know that JP fans are also extremely anxious about the announcement. I've been perusing Japanese twitter and 5ch's holo threads all day and they're all discussing why they think this was a horrible idea and are wondering what it means for future activities and events.
Did any JPs say something about this?
>>114662791Wrong. They didn't even acknowledge your boys despite management asking them to please shill them.
>>114662798JP fans are super critical of management. They threw a huge fuss when cover forced gen 0 to shill the homos during a anniversary stream
>>114662574>why are they begging to be pet that's so lewd i thought htey didn't like to petDon't they ask for headpats every 5 minutes
>>114662647Man, if they talked about half of what they have in Japanese, this merger might be worth it.
>>114662763They wanna slowly transition to JP so they don't lose CCVTo put into an analogy, they want to do the Great Replacement but for their viewer base
Cover staff are so incompetent they forgot to even include dev is in the merge announcement even though they are. But please be confident that they will remember to look after all members from all ex branches equally. Hilarious.
>>114662777FUWAMOCO literally said they wanted to do gravure 10 years ago in their ask.fm.
>>114662817yeah friend said something really importanthttps://x.com/shirakamifubuki/status/2096991068688622058
>>114662791Explain El Silencio
>>114662843yes but they dont whisper is to sweetly usually it doesnt make me tingle
>>114662798NTA, but the worries of the JPs are nothing when compared to how the EN fans feel about it. JP fans don't have anything to lose, holoJP members are really popular and they'll keep doing what they always do. EN fans have to worry about the girls getting a lot less support and some of the girls (FWMC) changing their content a lot to pander to JPs.
>>114662574Reads like FUWAMOCO reacting to the early days purity schizos who swore they were innocent puppies KEK
>>114662847>They wanna slowly transition to JP so they don't lose CCV>slowlyLol feels like they already did it.
The EOP anti is absolutely melting down on levels we didn't think were possible today
>>114662683>They didn't even have an encore part of the concert for members like they did all the other timesThey didn't have two 3D lives and two 3D special streams all the other times. Retarded angle.
>>114662948TRVTH IMPACTThe Great Ruffian Replacement has already been put in motion
>>114662970He got brain broken after their live
>>114662970Can't blame him, FWMC basically told their EN fans to kill themselves.
>>114662970This is nothing. Back when /vt/ was really active, we hit 1500 posts over a member stream.
>>114663008He was completely right in the end. FWMC are not HoloEN anymore, they'll abandon their EN fans and start pandering to JP ruffians only. I kneel. He was the prophet.
>>114663008He really got upset from that, he stopped posting by the time it ended kek
A new era of greatness is upon usNo more having to hang out with the likes of Bae or ERB or Kiara cause of some "branch unity"Unleash their full power, collab with the greats.
>>114663008Damn what a modern Nostradamus
>>114663008>FWMC destroying the EN ruffkeksFacts.>FWMC treating EOP mongrels as second class citizensFACTS! reinerGOD won.
>>114662861Proof?
>>114663124because they were hanging out with them so much before
>>114663117He literally won, bitch. You better apologize before you incur his wrath. Know your place as a second class Ruffian, EOP.
>>114662861they should've Mococo has a nice ass
>>114662977They literally did though? Just this year they had the 3D comedy show and the 3D concert and still had a membership encore. But apparently now that doesn't matter at all because they switched to JST and didn't even mention the doggy pack after getting confirmation they don't have to care about EN.
>>114662162No wonder he's glazing Takaichi
>>114662842And rightfully so.Why wouldn't they be mad about that? Imagine if Cover tried to force FUWAMOCO to actively shill holostarsEN. They almost tried it once, and that's how we got the moment of silence. Now imagine that was during an Advent anniversary stream.Also, are you a newfag? Management has a very bad track record. They've made tons of horrible decisions in the past. Every fan, JP or otherwise should be skeptical of management's administrative judgement.
>>114663228uh oh meltbrown
>>114663228Do you really think the EOP's will stay?
>>114662363they are thinking of applying for citizenship eventually
>>114663267Good thing instead of the actually good new EN managers we got for once they're all gone to be replaced by nips that only see company profits and guidelines.
>>114663267half of Advent would cheer for homos now
>>114663239>now that doesn't matter at all because they switched to JST and didn't even mention the doggy pack after getting confirmation they don't have to care about EN.Why do they hate the EN ruffians so much? Shouldn't they be grateful for everything we've done for them?
