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Kiara is just stressed
Kiwawa....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la20TwUUbig>zelda watchalong privated by management
Has /#/ come to terms with the fact we're not getting more Holo ENtubers ever again? EN5 is dead, in name and spirit.
Hololive won
>>114670892over/under on chance she gets suspended?
>>114670906EN's best years were when there were no debuts
>>114670892Oh fuck, what happened?
dont carestill only watching enscollabs with ids? tab closedjapanese speaking stream? tab closedsimple as
>>114670906good, holo doesn’t need more dead weight
Her silence is deafening.
>>114670906Watch something else, I dare you.
>Hololive wonThis is true
>>114670892She was already saying she was probably not gonna do the stream, how do you know if was management and not just her
>>114670912None. She said she doesnt feel like streaming in the next days.
>>114670921I'm not saying there is no upside to it, but no ENtuber debuts ever to freshen things up feels very grim and sad to me
>>114670906EN died with Gura.
>>114670892>privated by management>managementProof?
>>114670925Management told her to calm tf down and take a break
>>114670934
>>114670936BASED BASED BASED
>>114670892disobedience is not allowed
Feels good to be a Holochad and watching the shitters spam and cry
>>114670940too bad CC is hogging a spot
>>114670906Genuinely dont care, only watch Biboo. New girls would be cool but would rather see all the homos gone if its either or.
>>114670892Guess managers woke up to reports of Kiara wanting to kill herself over the merge
>>114670954Yeah, it's a wasteland outside of HoloEN. That's why I wanted more Holo ENtubers sometimes in the future. This sucks.
>>114670984>1 minuteAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
cc karen'd out in the airport ladyI want cc to step on me
>>114670906no one cares all of the known EN suck and they don't want to hire unknown 1/2views looking at justice
>>114671014Well, you're getting your wish, then.
Remember anons, your Oshi over the Company/Brand, always!
Do you want English streams?HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYMAyiri08Y
>>114670892The purge has begun. Japanese management will not want to put in the effort to support or understand their unique needs so will just ignore them.
>Kiara about to get Rushia/Haachama’dDeserved Idk how she’s gotten away with some of the shit she’s said but she chose a real poor time to have a melty this time
>>114671047So will she bring back her Eigo streams?
So are we going to see the JP speaking members learning English now? For the GLOBAL DOMINATION cause?
>>114671047This was the one who said she would get married soon, right?
>>114671062ouch the edge
>>114671051>No one cares>When this thread has been anticipating and theorizing over EN5 for yearsWho do you think you're fooling?
1.5M VIEWS DORYAAAAAAAAAAKiara won
>>114671078LOLLMAO
>>114671087yeah im sure pekoras racist ass will be taking english lessons
Remember anons, the phaseshitters coopted >focus on your oshi and not coverand twisted it into>focus on your oshi and not HololiveIt's always been Hololive first.
If (or shit, it might just be "when" atp) Kiara graduates, maybe that won't trigger a Civil War in Holo itself. But it might just trigger one in the fanbase.
>>114670925She was talking about almost going into panic attack and melting down
>>114670925Read it yourself
>>114671094>married soonwtf but how old is she
>>114670934fixed
>>114671087>So are we going to see the JP speaking members learning English now?lollmao even
>>114671113>platforming schizosRetarded woman or maybe that's what she wants
>>114671100Well this thread is mainly an anti hive, so..
c cute
This is Karma for Nijisanji EN. All this Riku going to merge just wait look who got merged now Bitch. Nijisanji EN outlasted HoloEN
>>114671100literally all ligger beggars, their posts are very obvious with the barely disguised seethe at the current girls
>>114670906good we're not subsidizing whores anymore
>>114671071The stuff she's said is nowhere close to what Haachama said
>>114671119true
>>114671122Oh good kfp, beggars and corpse huggers can fuck off for good then.
when will the mass graduations begin?
>>11467108799% of japs are incapable of learning a second language
>>114671113bitch is loving it
>>114670892Kiar......
>>114670892>retarded bitch thinks she's still under EN managementshe fucked up bigly
>>114671147A Niji Homo has been streaming 9 hours to 200 people
>>114670906Yeah it sucks.
>>114671119i care about my oshi not hololive not cover my oshi she leaves? i follow. simple as.
>>114671118pekora has always been nice to ens and she also thirsts for white men
>>114670892Watch management shove all the blame for the negative perception of the merge onto her.
Remember the anons that wanted a new unit so that they would take Nimi's slot and stop her from getting thousands of viewers?Guess that's never happening now...
from the homo sub
>>114671186There are maybe 2 anons that use "i" and both of them are holoantis
>>114671130Oh she is still paralized?No wonder
How do you feel about the fact that Biboo will never again be the Face of Hololive EN?
>>114671172next year after fes will probably be the TURNING POINT
>Kiara herself says she will take a break>Negros will call it suspension
>>114670948Can I have a summary of all the responses so far? I saw IDs complaining. Kiara obviously. Some ENs giving neutral, measured responses. Some ENs giving neutral, jokey responses. Some ENs posting in Japanese. Some ENs saying basically nothing at all like Gigi or Shiori.
it doesn't feel like im wining anymoreit feels like they want all foreigners to fuck off but yagoo said it politely and in the most roundabout way possible
>>114671047I want her to choke on my cock so bad
>>114671226yeahhhhhhh, Kiara said that
>>114671207>Tapir Karmic CurseBASED
>>114671218at least she'll always be the sex symbol of /vt/
>>114670906Uhh holostars EN still exist you know?
>it doesn't feel like im wining anymoreyou're definitely whining
>>114671226>>Selen herself says she will take a break>>Holocucks will call it suspensionnijinigger cope
>>114671237>have more hololive>they dont want meLmao weak ass nigga
I'm going to laugh so hard when they reveal that the new unit is full Japanese.
>>114671087JPs use a lot of English, Fubuki couldn't go even a few minutes without using English. They just have a really hard time SPEAKING English because it's really a different way of thinking. Japan is a very oral society and Japanese is a sort of vague and contextual language, whereas English is more specific, abstract and analytical.
>>114671226she should just do an sts2 collab with nimi
>>114671271Nobody sane thinks otherwise
>>114671062Holy based
>>114671233>Kronii DGF>Ina Bae Mori IRyS - positive, think it will be a good thing but understand the fear of change.>FWMC - celebrating>IDs and Kiara doomposting and melting down
>>114671218good no more retarded shitposts
>>114671207Nimi has spent 4 hours streaming to 6k people...and dropping...
>>114671271wasn’t it obvious when the unit logo is in japanese
>>114671261Actually that's Kronii.
>>114671271It's 100% JapaneseLook at the name
>>114671189They would be right to do so. Kiara is the only person who refuses to look on the bright side because she knows Europe is finished in Hololive.
>>114671272okay so they're going to take English speaking lessons, surely, right?
Kiara is crashing out because her clique is being dismantled, Elira would have done the same
An indisputable good thing to come out of all of this: hundreds of indies who dreamt of getting into holo had their dreams crushed today
>>114671271...They basically already revealed that. No one here seriously thinks otherwise. If you want to shitpost about that, you should just do it now cause it will be old news by the time we know all the members.
>>114671295ok so basically what I saw.
>>114671265Selen never said anything that's the entire fucking point of #WhereisSelen
And now they will do japanese style show like this?
one more day of work then 2 weeks of prime time Hololive
>>114671314wait this way is funnier
>>114671119It's the same shit, my Oshi > the name of Hololive/Cover Corp
>>114671336that’s… kinda sad
>>114671329Kiara crashing out because she is a frail woman
>>114671300So? She's never getting any new competition. Her days of no overlap will continue. I don't know how you can be a cuckling and not celebrating from the chair right now.
>>114671328Half of HoloEN didn't take Japanese speaking lessons they're fucking adults on their 30s who have to work jobs
>>114671317Literally every single ID who reacted was unhappy and tweeted that they were unhappy. Callie and FWMC are the only ones who seemed even slightly enthused.
>>114671271anon...sigh, nvm
>>114671354this plague should graduate
>>114671338Don't worry, the next unit after this one will also be full Japanese.
>>114671361I've watched you cry and spam on cooldown you creepy tranny
>>114671374and not they're getting shelved
>>114671343>nijinigger apologistget the fuck outta here, man(he/him)
>>114671272They use English words because modern Japanese has a ton of English loanwords, in the same way an English speaker uses French. They don't know English, they can't speak English.
>merge every branch into one hologlobal brand and centralise management into one department behind the scenes.>let ID, EN keep their name and branding as subgroups>everyone happyI am a genius btw. But seriously it's just a name anyway, feels like all these doomposting and negative PR can be avoided so easily.
>>114671372Celebrate what lol? They only wanted to hang off saba and doobys nuts.
>>114671309she's the paizuri queen, an important distinction
>>114671377>IDYeah so if EU and SEA are the only ones mad, but the Americans and Asians are happy, that sounds like this was a slam dunk idea
>>114671374WHERE IS THE WORK NIGGA
>>114671338Some people think they'll be bilingual, or at least they're coping with that.
>>114671372All 3 of them? I have never understood this mentality of>If something bad happens to Hololive then my oshi will be popularWhen in reality they just fuck off and you become even more unpopular
I'm confident my oshi's content will never change nor is she feeling pressured to cater to the Japanese. She never even tried to pander to them, she just streams whatever the fuck she wants, slowly learns the language because she's interested and not forced to, never really wants to join the cross branch events, etc. And most importantly she'll never move to Japan
So that's it? HoloEN and ID are over just like that?
>>114671392And the one after thatAnd the one after thatAnd the one after thatOne after that will have ONE (1) English speaker... She will stream in Japanese 80% of the time, though.We know, man.
>>114671271Of course, why would they do mixed language units? for the girls to be unable to to communicate with their own gen?
VISUAL UPDATES FOR EN IN LIKE.... 6 YEARS BTW
>>114671147you may have Riku, but now we have Raku!!!
ngl I want to hug Kiara
>>114671336
>>114671215Why does he think HomoEN is just as profitable—if not more so—than HoloEN?
If you're not ecstatic you are a loser
>>114671087Sora uses English. If you post in her chat in English she'll reply to you 90% of the time if you don't spam. She understands almost every EOP post without having to translate but just struggles to think of the right words to reply, but she knows what you're saying/asking. Fucking watch streams. A lot of the girls have autist translators in chat or have live translations on screen for you. JPs DO try you fucking retard.
>>114671429>EUyou mean Kiara?
>>114671460Me too, anon, I've never seen her be what /vt/ claims her to be. She seems so troubled and needs help.
>>114671462oof
>>114671470Okay so they're going to take the speaking lessons and try to collab in English, right?
>>114671439No one is saying Nimi is gonna incline, but naplings are obviously gonna be happy staying with what they got, when if you asked 6 months ago, pure decline into Kson territory is what awaited them when more ENs debuted
>>114671441deadbeat...
>>114671407SelenStarmin... Lying won't bring your parents back
>>114671441I'm so sorry.
>>114671462who?
>>114671130>BaliWhy is this woman obsessed with visiting poor thirdie shitholes all the time?
>>114671462This bitch would never pass the couch vibe check
>>114671462>means more competitionLmao, ifnthats the actitudes they never were ggonna make it
>>114671336Every single fucking en was an indie at one point. Nearly every JP was an indie at one point. How is this a fucking "good thing"?
>>114671510It's the only part of the world Europe is superior to
so what’s with people thinking content is going to change and we have to start learning japanese
Gigitomos are melting down...
>>114671429>goalposts moved
>>114671462This kind of attitude was never going to make it in the first place. Fubuking will now conduct all vibe checks and shoot all useless niggers on sight
>>114671499>>114671503I mean those who do, more power to them. I'm confident my oshi is all kinds of stubborn and a bit contrarian.
>>114671527erb
>>114671414>a lot of modern japanese just uses english words said the wrong way, on purpose>they refuse to learn english or how to say the words they use properlySometimes I think their low birth rates are basically because they're a nation of hard-headed stubborn retards that also have cultural down syndrome.
shameless copying gurahttps://x.com/henyathegenius/status/2097092615137321218
>>114671462>CompetitionThat's a good thing for the viewer lol
>>114671439That's the Phasecuck mindset
I was planning to go to holofes next year if it's around spring but I honestly have no idea now lol
>>114671462>have the same oportunities>but my branchIm sure this people never actually pastel even one audition
>>114671541I didn't say that, what I said was that there won't be any new members who stream in English.
>>114670853The stars fall, and scatter upon the land. But everything moves by the waves of fate, by that witching pattern of destiny.
>>114671527>implying we want indie whoresWe're recruiting from akb48 retirees, fuck 'em
fwmc...
>>114671462>no more DEIlmao
>Serenskibidy ended up being the final HoloEN concertWelp
>>114671497A week ago she had her worst stream ever with only Gigi overlap, if one of the new Asobi streams at EU hours like MekPark does, that will be more than enough even with the bilingual problem
>>114671541That's an overreaction. If anything, the fact we're not getting more holo ENtubers ever again means that the ones that are here will be incentivized to keep that part of the market happy.
>>114671497Thats still pretty likely if she actually is going to get pregnant, will have to stop streaming for at least a while. Numbers will only continue to drop, all she has to keep them up right now is staying somewhat consistent.
>>114671569>loan sharkhah i get it
what's the average of this thread
>>114670906/#/ still hasn't come to terms with the fact that they've lost all the top end of their EN talent so lol lmao
>>114671569LMAO originality is dead
>>114671372I'm not a cuckling but the notion of new debuts cutting into Nimi's audience was always stupid. Why would people interested in a new HoloEN gen be watching Nimi? Her audience is all people who were watching Fauna. Anyone who wanted to leave already had a great excuse to leave and ditched.
>>114671569>TfwWhat the fuck is this shit
>>114671591Can they bring Mayuyu out of retirement to show these bitches how it's done
>>114671613I have type II
>>114671613type VI is considered aryan itt
>>114671541Nothing changes, only events will be mixed from now on, like they were always, HoloFes always had all branches anyways, it just kills the exclusive HoloEN concerts
>>114671328I doubt most of them even have time for that>>114671414I know, I'm just making the point about why Japan in general struggles with English despite making attempts to incorporate it. Koreans have much better english. So you have to meet them where they are a bit, it doesn't mean you can't appreciate JP holos even if they have limited english.
>we want hololive to go global!>so we are getting rid of our overseas branchs!
>Spend 7 years studying Japanese because of Hololive>The anons who said it was a waste of time are worried about the future
>>114671553>how many jp talents speak proper englishLiterally zero. Haachama is the closest but she struggles a lot with regular conversation. None of the rest can even manage a sentence without mistakes.
Every member is equal nowSome are just more equal than others
>>114671569>loan sharkaccurate lol
>>114671658Hololive is now global because we absorbed them!
>>114671541No but the Japanese beggings will certainly start, and it'll be all kinds of pathetic seeing them try to cater to an audience that'll already made up their mind to never watch any English speaking talents
>>114671462I was never that impressed with any of the EN5 candidates that were commonly posted. Doubt they have any chance now since they all know zero japanese.
>>114671540
>>114671661I'm not worried, once the three Holos I follow graduate, I'm going to drop Hololive.
Grimmi dodged a bullet
>>114671682Nerissa, as biggest Holomem, should simply eat all smaller Holomem
>>114671634Bare minimum, they'd cut hard into her numbers at the start cause people would want to give the new girls a try. BARE MINIMUM.
>>114671569Squatters rights. Stream or give it up.
>>114671613I'm paler than type 1
>>114671594DIAMOND DOGS LFG
>>114671713never put dick in crazy
>>114671602If she gets pregnant nothing fucking changes because her job is sitting behind a computer for 1 hour and then fucking off. Pregnant women get morning sickness or sometimes other issues but it doesn't even stop them from fucking working. You can find women even 6 months in still working. At most she can take off maybe two months when she actually gives birth, and knowing that bitch she'd have already pre-recorded for that.
>>114671541I mean any of the girls who can speak Japanese but still did a lot of English streams because they were in an English branch no longer have to feel bad if they slowly drop English content. Not saying they will, but the incentive to speak English isn't as strong now.
>>114671669Kanade does, but she is Korean
They did not unionize. And were just happy within their own cliques instead of having bargains for the whole group.
I feel next week,month,year everything will be the sameAnd this will be a nothing burger
>>114671658Global to Japan is SEA
>>114671713She's one of those indie who scammed their fans
>>114671676Any girl can be a guest on a 100k+ Pekora or Miko stream, show off and potentially attract a new audience. Literally only hololive is where this is possible.
>>114671594yeah this is baused actually
Oh yeah I forgot>>114645389>>114645427AHAHAHA FUCKING RETARD I TOLD YOU THERE'S NO NEW GENIt's like I said. With no new EN gen on the horizon the girls are not incentivized to stream and keep their audience and all of them have been streaming less, not more. And now that we know there will never be another EN gen that explains why they're so complacent.
>>114671762yeah right, I'm sure the japs are gonna care for the EN's or ID's
FUWAMOCO WONBIBOO WONGURA WONMUMEI WONMORI LOSTKIARA LOSTBAE LOST
The EN indie scene look pretty bad talent wise. It's better if they recruit from japan with someone who can speak english and willing to focus their content on english.
>>114671758Yeah , everything will be the same as it has been. That's the problem. We're not getting EN5.
>>114671569Gura has been gone for a while now. It'd be one thing if she still existed, but she doesn't.
>>114671713true, if she was in justice right now she'd be mia like ERB/CC. Instead she streams regularly on Twitch and has no issue getting 2K ccv and keeps all of that profit for herself
>>114671669Ririka can. But the problem is, its ririka.
>>114671732I did, more than once
she won
>>114671781
>>114671654TRVKE
>>114671762Japs have had 6 years to get behind Mori or Kiara and they never did, some still rock with Bae and Fwmc but that's about it
>>114671762They could already do that before though
>>114671781>and willing to focus their content on english.This is not happening, dummy.In fact, it's the opposite. If we got a Bae, IRyS or Fuwamoco debuting nowadays, they'd be primarily Japanese and throw ENbeggars a bone every once in a while, and DON'T reply to this with a shitpost about "Hurr durr they do that already"
>>114671781My 3view is doing needy brat asmr tonight so I personally feel like I've won
>>114671815POV: You are at the PhaseCon
>>114671782Im sure next unit will be a different language.But im sure ID will be sea rather than just indo.New girls speaking jp neans we will get english and indo speaking ones eventually as cover feel confident again to debut
>>114671462>NOOOOOO I HAVE TO BE COMPETENT NOWwe don't need more lazy whores.
I'm waiting for Morihttps://youtu.be/Zm7e2XMowZc
>>114671462>>>>Lilith>SEA>Dyke lover>Sonic autist>Doesn't streamThe fuck was the plan here
>>114671750>Ayame suddenly now has 3 Koreans in her branchGRADUATION INCOMING
>>114671847>Im sure next unit will be a different language.Nothing indicates this to me.
>>114671781more like they needed to do something like mekpark for EN with people who never streamed
>>114671658>we want to go global>by never hiring any new talent that can speak other languages, it's all gonna be in full Japanese now! This entire journey meant nothing
I am willing to bet there will be KR unit in the future
Essie is playing Kerbalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N44TGI_vWQwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N44TGI_vWQwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N44TGI_vWQw
>>114671873Debuts start with jp and then the other languages.It aint rocket science.
>>114671743Yeah, /vt/ unironically drank the "if they're fucking their boyfriends they can't stream" shitposting too much when in real life people fuck and get married and pregnant and still work 8 hour workdays. Actually since Nimi announced she wants a baby she could even stream with the baby next to her and you might even hear her baby crying out during streams. Lol just thinking about it makes me feel sick.
>>114671781>It's better if they recruit from japan with someone who can speak english and willing to focus their content on english.Why? Unless they debut solo talents vs gens/units they will just revert to Japanese whenever they collab.
>>114671658>>114671897They do not actually want to go global now. They're pulling back.
>>114671761Like three separate times
>>114671758Yep, for us English speakers what we have now is what we will always have. Assuming no girls graduate that is.
GUYS WE'RE DOING GLOBAL DOMINATION NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!uh here's 1 NYC concert I guess with JP's
>>114671904buy an ad doctor saiken
>>114671762No EN has ever inclined in the long term by leeching off JP
Didn't the en girls ask not to have new girls debuts until management is fixed?
>>114671951Oh yeah these guys are getting CANNED
could the JPs even draw dimes in NA like, im fairly normie i never hear about pekora or miko here in america, it would just be japs flying out
>>114671910It's funny enough that you're coping we'll get more holo ENtubers ever again, but "Other languages" as if ID will be a thing is the kicker.
>>114671951https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCMs8dUWZus
The truth is that I feel like Kiara right now, I wonder if anyone else here feels the same.
>>114671971Yeah which is why we getting debutd again.
>>114671971Management will never be fixed, so there willbe no more en girls.The monkey's pawn curls.
>>114671910>bro just trust me bro the common sense bro
>>114671996I do but I'm not going to have a melty over it. I'll wait and see and hope for the best.Mostly I just mad that Nijifags finally have a way to shitpost over us.
>>114671996don’t kill yourself bro, just move on to something else
45 mins until streamhttps://youtu.be/SJiGJZOCtyo
>>114671904Thanks Essie, I need to calm down right now.
>>114671996You are a woman?
>>114671984Mori said she is sure there will be. You want me to belive the talent pr your schizo ass.
I don't care about the kiara and ID crashouts to be honest
>>114672023>caring about fucking 4chan when the branches are getting axedYou don't have a holo oshi, you oshi 4chan
>>114672029what stream?
Stars won
>>114672067
>>114671658Peak Japanese business managementThis is why they've been in economic stagnation since the 90s
>>114671669I still have no clue how Chammers can't speak english properly after so much time. Even zero fucks given international students get average at english after a stay in australia or just new zealand. wtf?
>>114671982Miko Peko and Korone have high mindshare in the U.S so they would definitely be a draw for a U.S concert but obviously you can't simply have all former JPs you'd need to have the majority be former ENs. Like if it's a 12 person concert you'd need 6 former ENs 3 former JPs and maybe 3 former IDs
>>114672009It's a jp unit and jp girls never said something like ever not wanting a new gen and instead asked when are the new gen coming.
>>114672063Thankfully my oshi isn't ID or Kiara otherwise I'd be more mad.
>>114672081Not a very joyful way to celebrate Ocarina of Time. This must be a Sheik ep.
>>114672063But the girls are still there and doing the same shit with plenty of opprtunities.
>>114672092She was a loner
>>114671497Naplings are all Hololive fans in deep denial who think there's no bad blood between Nimi and Hololive and they get mad when you imply there is
>>114672023>>114671448
>>114672086they’ve been in economic stagnation because the burgers raped them financially
>>114671658you cannot meaningfully appeal to a market when selling something you've labeled not for them, so yes they want hololive worldwide actually now
HoloEN died before Holostars, how does that make you feel?
>>114672063to be totally fair though 4chan is more fun than most vtuber streams, sorry im not watching koyori because im not japanese nor do I care to watch streams in languages I don't speak and that's gonna be an even bigger issue now so yeah 4chan is gonna be a lot of people's oshi now lmao
>Several EN and ID members know Japanese>Not a single JP member knows Englishglobal lol
>>11465562570 results for "holo" in the Niji thread btw
>>114672113What do you mean? Its the Zora part of the child archttps://youtu.be/alUoE6tJP1w
>>114671829There's a few nips who follow them, but they've all stagnated in EN too.Obviously the biggest problem here is just that the best EN talents graduated and they aren't trying anything new. What are people expecting from the fans?
>>114672098Cover said in their shareholders they were focusing first on fixing some management issues and current talent before debuting.Debuting again means they are confident again in their management process
I'm gonna be honest, I don't see Cover debuting any other language based unit that is not JP or EN. Maybe CN if they plan on going back.
>>114672077>Miyabi forgottenHomos losteredstop using the homobeggar mask
I want to cum Someone post a catbox of Kiara crying today
>>114672142They cannot appeal to EOPs with Japanese speaking talent without translations
>>114671898you want more Inas, Kroniis and Kanades?
>>114672158Would they really benefit career-wise from learning Japanese though?
>>114672143Looking forward to the Parrot video.
>>114672164This announcement puts a sour feel on OoT, which did not occur until Sheik and his melancholic theme appear.
>>114672191That is the point. Reason why we are getting translated events and clips promoted
>>114671661>7 years just for Japaneselmao, languagelet.>>114672126Lots of those guys play chinese gachas in non-english languages in their room after school hours, and they still get average.God give strenght to chammers because i don't even want to imagine what she goes through to not even make mental conversations with herself. It almost seems like she doesn't even want to hear her own thoughts.
>>114671553Not all Gigitomos but always a Gigitomo
>>114671078bwaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahaha>jp talent says or outright promises they will do english streams>shit fizzles out in a month or two>every>single>time>no more kawaii eigo streams 4UAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA you done gone git got
>>114672224The announcement is a good thing and Sheik is a girlhttps://youtu.be/4sPSKMPOXok
>>114671915>she could even stream with the baby next to her and you might even hear her baby crying out during streams. she wants to be NL SOOOO BAD
So what was stopping any of the side branches from collabing with the jp girls before? They always did anyway. Is there going to be management mandated collabs now at gunpoint?
>>114672257>Sheik is a girlProof next thread?
>>114672096Isn’t that just like normal EN concerts?
I just want to ask why are people so negative nowadays? Like i checked negative reddit comments on the merger and their comment history is literally just doomposting on various discussions not excluded to hololive only.
>>114672092>Even zero fucks given international students get average at english after a stay in australia or just new zealand.No they don't, I live in New Zealand and all the chinks just stick to themselves and still can't speak proper English by the time they're in high school
>>114671713Her womb won’t be dodging anything
>>114671915>wants a baby she could even stream with the baby next to her and you might even hear her baby crying out during streamsreality for phasecucks soon
>>114672191No one in the entire company mentioned that during the global expansion plan meeting. Oops!
>>114672262funny to think JP girls would wanna collab with fucking Indos lol, minus Anya I guess
>>114672167Yeah that's what killed the EN branch, their lack of large scale collabs/events. They could have unofficially integrated themselves with ID to make more large scale events more common and possible. But instead the fanbase was content just letting EN stream by themselves and joining JP events instead of making their own. Well now that will be their only option
>>114671915>Lol just thinking about it makes me feel sick.do you hate kids that much
>>114672302Kids are nasty snot-nosed freaks
>>114672190I don't even want to jerk off, i just want to see what Kiara went through. I was out at work when Holobranches died.
>>114672276Winners win, losers lose
uh oh signs of life from saba
>>114672276>Why are people negative when negative things happenGee that's a real head-scratcher
>>114672158genius
>>114672158>Not a single JP member knows English>Sora>Subaru>Korone>Ririka>Haachama>Iroha>Lui>Kanade>Towa>RobocoThey can all read and hear english and roughly understand what's being said at least. Some of them are almost fluent.
>>114672276change is scary for a lot of people and it causes them to lash out
>>114672262Middle management between branches.This is just streamlining shit people are just upset about losing a label but nothing (outside girls being marketed in diferente regions) will change content wise.
>>114672273sorta, except the JPs wouldn't be "guests" they'd be headliners of the event and there would be no more guests, also some ENs won't need to participate since it's not an all EN event.
>FWMC is FWMC>Biboo and Nerissa trying hard to cater to the JPs by joining events, lives, etc>Shiori putting the live translator thingy on her streams Why are Advent so desperate for the JPs attention?
>>114672247woketards will always ally with the homos
https://youtu.be/v-NUqItmW34
>>114672292Honestly, if EN and ID merged together and JP and DEV_IS merged, we wouldn't be seeing half the shit we're seeing now. Instead, Cover went with the most retarded possible solution and now we're here.
The merger is a good thing. Am i the only one who thinks cover is kinda racist by making different branches in the first place?
>>114672337>They can all read and hear english and roughly understand what's being said at leastbut they can't fucking SPEAK IT WHICH IS THE MAIN POINTwhat will the ability to "listen" do on a stage where THEY are supposed to talk you mongoloidI don't care that they can say "HI HOW ARE YOU THANK YOU OOOOOOOOOOO OVERSEAS SEXY GUYS"
>>114672318Statement dreamed up by the utterly deranged
>>114672282I think we are both correct... We just didn't meet the same substrate of chinks.>>114672318...What?
>>114672092All nips are like that lmao. There's japanese wrestlers in WWE that have been living in the US for over a decade and they still can't speak a single word of English.
>>114672386Japanese people are racist and if they want to try do anything for an English audience they should keep it seperated from Japan so they don't half-ass it and just give Japan priority for everything (which is what happened anyway lol)
feels like I'm reading reddit itt
>yeah bro JP's can read english letters, they'll be finereally nigga?
>>114672262FACT: no one knows what this merger ACTUALLY entails besides the actual holos and cover employeesanything else is speculation
Is it really that hard to understand that people are upset that Cover killed off two brands they loved for years?
>>114672337>Some of them are almost fluent.I'll give you Haachama but there is a huge gap between her and likely Ririka, Lui, and Kanade.
So what do we call pre merge fans?
>>114672467Capable of speaking English for a start
>>114672451HoloEN sure but no one cared about HoloID as a brand
WHEN NIMI NIGHTMARE DIESWHEN NIMI NIGHTMARE DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN NIMI NIGHTMARE DIES
>>114672367biboo and nerissa skip out on a lot of JP events and lives are other members inviting youit's crazy that you would think shiori of all people cares about that just because of a translator
>>114672292Well no offense to the current ENs, but without any energetic new talent around it's really hard for them to build momentum for anything. JP didn't have such devastating graduations. That's all it comes down to really. If they build some momentum back then everything's fine, but you can't just expect the fans to carry the company when they're stagnant.
>>114672451This thread is retarded .People hated the rebranding of twitter so much they still fucking call it twitter after years, even after it's been lobotomized.
>>114672449Even the Holos aren't really sure what the merger means
>>114672485the talents themselves did lol
>>114672467EOP
>>114672372kino
>>114672262Imagine 1 giant pillar of middle management for every single branch in addition to the general JP middle management roof above them all, which in of itself has even more layers of higher management who also have to approve those things.
>>114672490>If they build some momentum backI don't think that's ever going to happenThe only standout from the last two gens has been FuwaMoco and they literally want to change their race to Japanese
>>114672449>speculationThat's all this thread has been for years
>>114672451Maybe it would of been a bit better to announce the merger and have it completed at the start of the new year? Just simply snapping fingers and making the change immediately made fans and a bit of talents get whiplashed from it
>>114672276negative reaction is rewarded positively across social media, the internet is a zombie
>>114672240events and clips really aren't enough, we already had clippers translating stuff
oh man I can't wait for the shitty app exclusive streams and khantent you gotta pay for or you only get to eat crumbs that fall on the flooroh and having to make some kind of gay profile on it, buying some kind of app only currency with real money and witnessing all the stat tracking obsessed faggots who will post their total watch time etc
The QRTs on Yagoo's tweet are hilarious, there are like two people talking about the merge, and the rest are saying "WHAT ABOUT DUBAI??"
>>114672451>killed offthe members are still there why would anyone care about what the company chooses as a name
>>114672372you could have done so much betterhttps://youtu.be/mHk0CNnUNag
>>114672558you already have the fanclub shit that gives you an early chance to get tickets for shit, so it will only escalate from now
>>114672451I LOVE BRANDS
>>114672292>now that will be their only optionI disagree, before EN managers would say no to all the girl's ideas except for Mori, but now Mori has no pull with the JP managers so some one like Bae or GG/CC have a higher chance of getting the right to host/organize a large scale event without Mori's favoritism sabotaging them. Hell's Bae and Subaru have already cohosted major collabs already, they can go even further and do more events together.
>>114672520sounds great
>>114671130Are our JPanonbros laughing on the other site?>>114672367Twinsies knew that the only way to survive is to latch onto the main branch as quickly as possible. Clever girls.
So what's going to be the excuse from niji, phase, and indie niggers when they still can't have/don't have EN concerts or events even 1/4 as successful as Serendipity in the following years? You can't blame HoloEN from now on.
>Most of Holo EN began supporting Twitch Vtubing, worst yet they chose the most boring uninteresting vtubers like ironmouse and amalee.>Most are Homobegger collab supporters.>No one did any good fan service ASMR that is currently there other than Nerissa.>Most that are still in hololive had women moments on social media.>Most had BF yabs or male visitor yabs on their social media, social media RM accounts or on streams.If you all noticed, all the good Holo ENs were the ones that jumped ship earlier. I dont feel sorry for any of them and they all do deserve to wallow in their own misery that they created.
No Haachama btw.
>>114672622
When Gura left Hololive, they already had the idea of killing HoloEN.
>>114672622They are going to say that you can't compare Hololive to smaller companies, for Niji, they are going to pull up a gorillion charts and say they don't need to do it and that they are not idols and the usual cope basically.
>>114672537As long as they aren't taking risks it's impossible, yes. If they add new talents and some of them catch my interest then I'm fine with bililgual collabs (I wouldn't have minded that at all in the past). My only problem is my favorite talents graduating, that's it.
>>114672654has it been confirmed of JP is supplying their own voices or if they will be hiring VAs? Because if they are hiring VAs then not including her makes zero sense.
>>114672674absolutely based if true
Tell you the same thing that they told meWorth your weight in gold?Should I practice what I preach man?Should I just do what I'm told?Because the clock keeps tickingDoes it mend your broken bones?You know they say that I'm a lightweight, well the worry weighs a tonIf I make it to the top don't come and save me, cause I'll be at the bottom having funhttps://youtu.be/AcYvXFgw0K8
>>114672622Phase has concerts anon and they just getting started
>>114672665TRVTH NVCLEAR BOMB
>>114672696The English vtubers they choose to hire are fucking awful
>>114672459haachama is nowhere close to being fluent. lui, ririka, subaru and probably even towa and roboco are much better than she is.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tEbWuLlkYZA&si=4Fwtp3hUXL0t9VUQI miss you, please please please be in asobi mawaritai
>>114672451The girls are still there with the same activities and merch oportunities as always.
>>114672489Nerissa and Biboo have been to all in person JP events this year
>>114672674
>>114672654Woah, they removed Haachama from the anime even though she'd been part of the project for 5 years?
>>114672622They'll reply with something like this: >>114672661Nijisanji doesn't give a damn about NijiEN aside from Meloco and By the BeatPhaseConnect is in the process of becoming ultra-mainstream, with their girls trying to stream with their boyfriends/husbands
>>114672654I think Chammers has mostly given up but doesn't want to officially leave ever to not harm her gen.
>>114672451>muh brand within a brandlike how much of a goy are you? the girls are still there, they are still part of hololive, what could be your fucking issue, chumtard faggot.
>>114672654>"Le 5 years that's why EN is not in this">Fucking HoloX is in thisYou Jap LARPers are embarrassing
>>114672654Haachama is EN nigger
>>114672759explain why wouldn't they include her>>114672780this has been 5 years in production, she wasn't in that doomer mode back then
>>114671448you still refuse to post the real one
>>114672654I need at least half an hour of anime Laplus.
Reminder that if the EN girls had simply joined hands with Tempus like Omega originally intended it would have been logistically possible for the EN girls to be absorbed. You only have yourselves to blame
>>114672759>5 yearsthat's obviously bullshit lolanyone with a brain can tell they just said that so EN and ID fans won't ask any questions why their oshi isn't part of it
>even DEV_IS are dooming the mergerCover just killed off years of branch identity and culture to homogenize everyone into a nipponese melting pot no one outside of Japan likes, the retards
>>114672730Exactly, I don't think the problem is the fanbase or whether they're pandering hard enough to one audience or another, it's that their best talents graduated and they're not doing anything to counteract the loss of energy and momentum.
>>114672828Why don't you just watch NijiEN if you want to see girls collabing with sexual predators?
>>114672713That's not a concert>>114672661pictured: phase connect getting their ass beat by their own male collabs and bf yabs
>>114672794yes cover deciding to do an anime when releasing holocks sounds about right
reminder that EN's new management allows thumbnails and content like this
20 mins until Morihttps://youtu.be/87nkJquHnAU
>>114672866I don't think there are any native English speakers in charge of hiring English talentERB wouldn't even pass a basic social skills test but they hired her just because she can sing well
>>114672665>653>722MEMEME is a thing in JP too?
>>114672759Stop fucking noooticing
you wasted 6 years of your life fighting for a branch that got unceremoniously taken out back and shot because it failed to sell out one concert, kiara is justified in her rage and sorrow
>>114672829I wouldn't be surprised if Gura was in a bunch of scenes and they had to rework the entire thing when she just quit, and it got worse with later graduations.
>>114672923Serenskibidi actually didn't sell out? lol
>>114672923Wrong. She fought for a continent that hated her and Hololive
>>114672397Passion English is more than enough for live shows lol
should've boughted more merch instead of shit posting online lmao
>>114672965yeah right
Reminder if you seethe you lose
>>114672923Did the concert do badly?, i was too busy rewatching the RPG minecraft events to care
>>114672902Even for Biboo?
Kiaraschizos WON
Helmir status? Is he busy fighting 5 billion doomposters or is he still stupidly arguing with one guy who was praising his oshi?
>>114672904Deadbeats are ignoring dramaniggers in chat lol
Cover got tired of waiting for Biboo to reach one million subscribers and become the next Gura. So all of this is Biboo's fault.
>>114672995everything suits say is performative
>>114672995kek EOP are chimping out in twitter
>>114672904good song
>>114672756can you show me Biboo and Nerissa in the ARK event
>>114672650so true kanikek next stream when?
>>114672650It's odd because I don't know what they actually have to be miserable aboutSure, they'll be irrelevant and will get no new English speaking people to collab with, but they are not getting terminated. They really can just coast forever now.
Cover Stock is up post merger.Investa san you rike?
>>114673031There's a higher chance that Gura herself would return than Biboo becoming the next Gura. That is to say, both are impossible outcomes.
>>114672923If you put it in those words, I can understand Kiara better.
>>114673006The indie one? Yeah they sold 40% of the tickets (or 55?)
>>114672923The girls are all passive aggressive with the changes all around twitter. I haven't seen so much bs pooling together since the last time I went into my grampa's barn 20 years ago I almost believe management lowkey forced them to comment on the change, no different from nijiEN's forced big family tweets
https://x.com/SNIC_C/status/2097011354905313760>I don't wanna hear "we are EN" anymoreso what happened to "we're always be EN"
WHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIES
>>114672945Yes. That fact that it didn't sell out was constantly deflected by pointing at other flops but Serendipity also flopped.
>>114673059The ones left are workaholics, i don't think they want to coast. They wanted to struggle upwards despite the chances being too low, now they can only flap and fall into irrelevance no matter what they will try or suggest. It's over.
>>114672674They didn't want Gura to ever happen again. She was barely around after her first year and she still had bigger numbers than all of EN and a lot of the JPs too so they didn't want some foreigner to take all the glory. Never again. The merger ensures that any person they hire that will do mostly English-speaking content will have to play by JP rules and follow JP orders so a case like Gura never happens again.You guys might think im shitposting but you don't know the levels of pettiness JP corpos get involved with. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the JP girls fucking hated Gura to their core back when she was still around.
>>114672912People will blame the audience for not supporting her when we already have proof that the right talents can go viral in the EN market. They just got lazy and complacent.
>>114673104I don't believe this is true, and if she actually said this, I don't believe her.
>>114673006Yeah Serendipity underperformed, part of it was them foolishly having it on the same day as Doki's Rewind which was much more kino, so kino Mori went to perform for their company also on the same day
>>114673079i swear to god almost everything about this thing is some kind of projection from nijisanji holy fuck
>>114672923Wrong. The first year or two she was establishing her brand. It was the next 4 years wasted as she dug in deep into a corpo that ultimately lead her nowhere
So mori admitted she hated being EN this whole time and always wanted to be with the JP girls? HAHAHAHA the fakest of fake bitches
>>114673104Theres a screenshot of her saying "IF" first. Then correcting herself saying "Im sure there will be"kek
>>114671658as far as I can tell all EN talents are still there
Washed companyWashed branchesWashed talents
>>114673104Where did she say that?
>>114672864Japan loves homogenizing shit right now, it's their current corpo trend. Its especially present in their games.
>>114672700this totally slipped my mindI can't wait for the AKB0048 performance
ReminderHololive wonUnicorns wonI won (did nothing)https://youtu.be/uzR5jM9UeJA
>>114673104Management just straight up lied to her, huh? This surely won't result in a Mori meltie a year or two from now.
>>114672700nothing is confirmedthey'll have a stream about anime later
>>114673063is so fucking late for shitposters, Hololive is unstoppable
>>114673059Imagine you work for Company A as a subsidiary (lets call it Company B). One day, out of the blue Company A says we're going to absorb Company B with no layoffs or job loss. Sounds great, right? Here is what typically happens in these situations though. Those taken in by Company B will see their work lessen and are passed on big promotions or not able to get important projects, just small bits of busy work. Now, Company A just waits for those who came over from Company B to leave via attrition and viola! You had layoffs without having to say you did layoffs.
>>114673104I think she said that right after the end of the watchlong, if someone want to check
>>114673104Mori is known to overhype and straight up lie about many things
>>114673207melty
>>114673104monkeys coping already kek
>>114673104She literally said "If" before she went full cope mode that there totally will be. And she sounded uncertain the entire time.People that want to take any positivity from what Mori said about the merger did not actually watch the stream. Deep down, she's dooming as hard as Kiara.
>>114673104There will definitely be more EN debuts but they will primarily speak Japanese and also live in Japan/stream at jp prime time.
>>114673112Just look at the nips all pretending like the Western market must have no interest in vtubers because their company shat the bed lol.
>>114673096>>114673104>IF WE EVER DO>I'D LIKE TO THINK WE'D GET AN ENGLISH SPEAKING GROUP SOMEDAY1:36THAT'S the "certain" words?
I'm just gonna put essie on in the background. She's just yappin' cutely and it's what I need right now.
>>114673158end of her Direct watchalong after the Direct was over
>>114673188Ok, but just... Stay and coast, nigga.You know why Shiori isn't minimally worried about this? Because it's exaxctly what she will do.
Umm chinks are based?
>>114673104
>>114673258stop lying>>114673249
>>114673168BauBaus over the moon that they have finally become Japanese (technically).
>>114672923Now tell us why the concert did badly anon
>>114673134>Doki's RewindOh nobody watched this thing
>>114673249PffftGood godSeriously, Mori is giving me far more despair than Kiara
EVERYTHING IS TUMBLING DOWN
8 mins until Morihttps://youtu.be/_2hXBf1DakE
>>114673168>(did nothing)BAAAAAAAAAAAASEDReminder Holostars =/= HoloPRO
>>114673252Essie's cute
>>114673249Why is Mori such a vagueposter?
>>114673249you gotta understand most people in here are ESL they think ambiguity means certainty because thats how it is in their languages
>>114673303>Selia McGrimKEK
>>114673294The number of posts about it on the catalog tell me otherwise
>>114673249HoloEN fans should really just move onto indies / Phase, this shit is laughableStop torturing yourselves
You have lost>>114673240>>114673240>>114673240
>>114673319Once a femanon, never not a femanon. Remember, you are here forever.
Is this the most grim ERA? I've been here since 2020 and I can't recall a time where nobody even feels like talking about a confirmed new Gen of girls. The vibes are in the fucking toilet
