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>>114677288cunny
>>114677288What the hell she has a fat ass and no tits my cock is tearing through my pants
I thought we loved Kiara why's everyone turning on her?
>>114677288sniffa the bibutt
>>114677288I'm jerking off to this right now, are you happy OP? You will make me cum tonight.
Kek
>>114677288All mine.
Really lost all respect for [[insert holoEN I don't like]] today[[My oshi]] WON
>>114677611As an IRyStocrat, this but unironically
>>114677288where did you save that image from?
>>114677100About hololive EN ceasing to exist? Did you watch today's stream?>>114677134You should read his works, unironically.>>114677138>talents are important not what you decide to call themBut the talents now exist in a different mode which substantially changes how they operate moving forward. As holoEN, they were formally assigned to cater towards the english-speaking markets over others, as well as enjoying a structural alignment with other english-speaking talents that comes with being formally distinguished from other branches. That's all gone now.>>114677165Are you retarded? Did you not watch the stream or something? >>114677187Like shit I am. I watched the stream like everybody else, dumbass.
RockuWawa...
>>114677288SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this is so humiliating for ENs like I'm embarrassed for them
>>114677559Pretentious scum
>>114677589>>114677681Weird management push, that never had any legs. The single genuine moment they had was talking about lotr for 5m during that watchalong.
>>114677288GET FUCKED KIARA WHORE
>>114677288little girls are unironically built like this now and they all wear those tight clothing
>>114677288sir, that's a child
>>114677427nijien survived
>>114677416you thought wrong
>>114677608Would be awkward if they had animation cells including haachama and then suddenly ONLY THIS LAST YEAR she couldn't recordOr the simpler explanation: they're fucking lying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn2hfzLsA-8vhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn2hfzLsA-8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn2hfzLsA-8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn2hfzLsA-8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn2hfzLsA-8this one is good
>>114677559Cope
>>114677667It just feel alright okay, don't expose me please.
>>114677681never existed.kfp and pebbles are not friends
>>114677288I want big bunda cunny
>>114677661This you?
we got too cocky, that's all
>>114677739>>114677704Surely the phase CCV will increase right?
>>114677416this board hates kiara
>>114677783i doubt it
>>114677783
>>114677714Don't say built
Guys, you know those global events where cover requires a representative from each branch? It’s just gonna be all JP now?
>>114677288oh i know which thread this is from
>>114677770>This threadshitpost shitpost shitpost shitpost shitpost shitpost shitpost shitpost shitpost shitpost shitpost shitpost >MoriHappily streaming OOT to 7k people.
>>114677734You actually think they took 5 years to produce all of the episodes and sit on them?
It's time for Mori to grow up
>>114677755don't worry, anon, I won't reveal your secrets, the client probably will, tho
Did anyone expect the outcome of hololivenext stream to be a complete merger? Remember people thought they were going to announce EN5/ID4?
>>114677577yeah it's pretty much over, might as well take it all in now before moving on
>>114677416>loved KiaraAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>114677714I cant disagree with this, those parents letting this little girls wear tight shorts where you could literally see their cameltoes
>only the former faces of en are streamingso they defected a long time ago
>>114677792>>114677842But wasn't she feminized like Kronii?
>>114677763No but I would assume most IRyStocrats should be happy about this news
Kiara should've been the one who graduated, not Gura.This is what I will say. And bullshit on "EN used to mean something" , they(MYTH except Mori) were leading the whole time and relaxed so much, that they began coasting.If you were concerned about now, you should've done EVERYTHING in your power to keep Gura and Ame.You didn't. You are fucking complicit in why "HoloEN" failed. Stop pretending you had no hand in that.
>>114677559lol this will make them real mad >>114677704>>114677739oh they are mad already
>Kronii says the merger doesn't matter cause hololive has always suckedGraduation or termination soon?
>>114677834He did
>Kiara gets closer to Nimi>Starts inciting everyone to shit on other holos
>>114677866what a time to be alive
>>114677866anonchama, why the FUCK are you ogling the cameltoes of little girls?
>>114677288Biboo's appeal is her flatness. DON'T INFLATE HER ASS. She has a petite body which is sexy and fuckable not inflated baloonCANON PROPORTIONS >>>>>>>>> INFLATION FAGGOTRY
>>114677894the great satan of vtubing
>>114677559he killed phaseshitposters...
>>114677881gura doesn't even stream right nowshe's just as much a mess as kiara herself
>>114677887>kroniii see "production">kronii: Oh my god this sucksBASED BASED BASED
>>114677904gay
>>114677783hololive could go completely defunct and phase still won’t get a ccv boost
>>114677904>DON'T INFLATE HER ASSwow okay homo
This is like Activision Blizzard levels of coping>with activision money, we'll have Warcraft 4, Starcraft 3 and really cool expansions for WoW!
>>114677903Its not my fault and I didnt mean to look
>>114677804I'm surprised by how many people know, it really makes you think.
>>114677809it actually happens, especially on projects with known troubled production schedules like GTAVI, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Duke Nukem Forever, and Gran Turismo 5
>>114677559Well put, doubt anyone that participates in the dramashittery cares though. They straight up dont even watch their own phase whores unless its pol/drama.
>>114677416>loved Kiarapfft HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>114677904anon, you can appreciate the perfect biboo flatness and also salivate over >>114677288 if you want
If you're not allowed to look at little girls then what is the point of them?
>>114677868they the only one's damage controlling and trying to make it seem like nothing happened last night. The other ENs are the one's checked out of the Holobox
>>114677755it's okay, i think it feels right too
Alright I think I'm caught up. Is this right?>Hates the mergeKiara>Coping hard but forward-lookingMori, Bae>Cautiously optimisticBiboo, Ina, Raora>HappyIRyS>Loves the mergeFuwamoco, NerissaNo real statement yet:Kronii, Shiori, Gigi, CC, ERB
>>114677943Good comparison, actually. It's ok though, no matter what this retarded nigger thread parrots on the daily it's gonna be shown in due time that the merger was a mistake.
>>114677416>he fell for the /hlgg/ psyops
>>114676229>why Biboo is more mature than Kiara?Biboo is simply just more mentally stable than KiaraBut also Biboo didn't join HoloEN until Jap had already taken over and there were a bunch of wide-sweeping change for the better. She wasn't around in 2020/21 when EN was more definitively "2nd-class citizens" with zero lines of communication to the main branch and had to build an identity around being self-sufficient, and she wasn't around 2021/22 when Omegay was at the peak of his reign of terror and doesn't have the shared trauma Myth/Promise have for surviving himShe doesn't have the same level of pride of "being HoloEN" as Kiara does because she wasn't around when was rough
>>114677996where is I?
>>114677996you got the gist of it
>>114677792I feel bad for anons who watched kiara
>>114677866
>>114677887Nope, just autistic
Mori's shitty flute always cracks me up
>>114678039I don't
>>114677943Anon, the bad part of that thing is BECAUSE they're a game developer. Too many redundant divisions caused talents that made quality games were laid off.In COVER's case, it's only the management, not the talents that are getting laid off, which is what this whole thing is all about: When YAGOO said he was personally managing the talent, this is what the logical endpoint of that idea is.
>Gigi doing members so that clipniggers can't do their shitLmaoo
>>114677996Nerissa will be bringing DUBAIS into the jp crowd
>>114678002>invoking Omega and oldfaggotryYou dare try this when IRyS who suffered more than anyone else at the hands of EN management is excited for what's to come?
>>114677996>Coping hard but forward-lookingTranslation: Why aren't they with Kiara, but I hopelessly want them in that tier too.
>>114678002Don't post kiara here
Who are (You) watching?
>>114678002It always goes back to this with Kiara, but seems like something you just apply to her "hardships" instead of the vague whining she does on stream. She was basically got raped irl, I doubt she gave to much of a fuck about telling homos to fuck off.
CC has spoken
>>114678041
Niggers in this threadhttps://youtu.be/RaG731daVPI?t=18
>>114677994It comforts me to know I'm not alone in this, keep being based Anon.
>>114677997Every holoEN who has all their eggs in the holo basket is throwing their full support behind coverEvery holoEN who could feasibly make it on their own (even if they don't want that) has been neutral or negative about the merge
>>114678086I have a theory that socialists are traumatised from being told they can't go to McDonalds as a kid and then when they're an adult it was shit
>>114678084Mori because she’s already done her there’s change blah blah it’s whatever speech
>>114678107>refusing to call herself Cecillia of HololiveYeah she's anti Merger
>>114677881>If you were concerned about now, you should've done EVERYTHING in your power to keep Gura and AmeIts utterly pointless if Gura herself WANTS TO LEAVE, retard.
>>114678052I trust grems to leak everything important but I don't expect any big statements from any of Justice because they're the last gen and are used to getting nothing already.
>>114678088>She was basically got rapedwhat type of weed are you smoking?
Why do I feel one of the bigger share holder might have asked cover to show the earning for their side branches and they panicked merged everyone and took Holostars back in the alley and shot them in their head
I trust Cover. They always make the right decisions.
>>114678050>In COVER's case, it's only the management, not the talents that are getting laid off, which is what this whole thing is all aboutNTA but Towa and Fuwamocon announced that their manager had left, so you have a point
>>114678084Not Hololive anymore
>>114677996Jurard also hates the merge
>>114678081shut up crat
>>114677416Never liked that fake dyke
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like it
>>114677989AutoFisterGods stay winning as always
>>114678179pls learn english
>>114678159>doesn't name vtuberthis is because every holoanti knows that everything outside of Hololive is trash
>>114677758Nobody liked that shit
>>114678002To me it's not that Biboo is more or less mature but more than Biboo, and Advent in general, doesn't stand favouritism talks. They do not like being called favourites or pro-management and they will talk, with all the seriousness of an adult, about it.Biboo was mature and proud in this talk because Biboo is a member of Advent before anything else, and won't stand absurd hatred of the group she has worked so hard on.
>>114678149If the latter part was real, I would be saying the merge is the best decision they ever made.
>>114678151Yep. Like HLZNTL.
>>114677559I mean he's right. Phasecon was a success but before and after it, theyve just been catching Ls left and right.
>>114677288Gross African-Americanized trash
>>114677288>>114678128Scat version, please. I beg you, anon...
>>114678149Wait it makes sense now
>>114678187I’m watching Henya right now.Streams every day instead of 1-2 times a month. No Jap managers or executives.Better?
>>114678158 (me)Fuwamoco*they're not digimon...
>>114678052SelenGrem will leak it all anyways
>>114677894She's no doubt seeing seeing all the tweets shitting on others as a result of her statements but also just like Fauna, she has made zero attempts to extinguish hate against other holos
>>114678123
>>114678204>Sucking the investors cock without taking into account the ramification on content and morale is the best decision they could've made
>>114678140Except that Gunrun Money was involved regarding her leaving. All Kiara had to do was vehemently ask COVER to match that contract.
>>114678149more credence again to the rrat that the merge is a shareholder decision.
>>114677952with how angry and insecure most numberfags are it's really not surprising at all>>114678128there's nothing based about this and you're evil for triggering pebbles in the middle of her streaming!it is weirdly comforting though to know how common this is
>>114678233Cover nukes their own company and screw over their own talents and fans, and it’s Kiara’s fault for publicly complaining about it and making sure people know talents aren’t happy with the decision?
>>114678187I'm watching Mwocha
>>114678233I mean she even tripled down and then released a new rrats on top of it.
Kiara....
>>114678259Eh, it's cute and sex, it doesn't need more than that for you to fap to it, unless you're like that one greek anon.
>>114678238Kek
>>114678226>>114678266
>>114678163Can't leech holoen anymore
>>114677559I mean, he's right The "Phase is the X biggest EN copro now!!" gimmick just sounds retarded when none of their members are actually advancing in the scene (in fact, some of them are REGRESSING)
>>114676229>Why Biboo is more mature than KiaraDon't tell me there's dumbasses in this thread that believe the loli girl is an actual kid. I'm pretty sure she's slightly older and wiser and less medicated so of course she's going to be more "mature"
>>114678279dead
>>114678238source?
Kiara going WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE NANORA was something I always expected l desu
>>114678302what does that mean
Bibisi sounds like an Afro-Semitic dictator's surname.
>>114678250Cover is actually trying to keep their in the positive and not burning money like gunrun with stupid ass contracts which would net him no profit
>>114678179Never trustimprove your hateinvest in a grim smilevengeance will comeyou will savor it>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RK_aR078Do
>I just saw on my twitter feed that even Pippa and some indies are telling retarded antis offHave antis gone too far with their "theories" and attack?
>>114678319I bet you need it explained to you
>>114677611>Mythfag>Meltdown>Monday
>>114678309imagine saying this shit and thinking you are not a dumbass here
kiara vs biboo soon
>>114678163>>114678163well duh, the merge means its going to be much, MUCH harder for him and his Homos to leech and try to sexpest
>>114678309she was still in school 5 years ago.
>>114677804>>114677952>>114678259leak the thread
>>114678341yeah thats why i asked
>>114678246Deleting the homo branches, and establishing the company is female talents only, on the level that Hololive is, would be pretty impactful. Anything else is either tiny and insignificant to attempt something like that or start out female only and eventually introduce males and self-sabotage.
ALL ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAT OTHERS>ALL ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAT OTHERSALL ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAT OTHERS>ALL ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAT OTHERSALL ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAT OTHERS>ALL ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAT OTHERSALL ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAT OTHERS>ALL ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAT OTHERS
>>114678368>Deleting the homo branches, and establishing the company is female talents only, on the level that Hololive is, would be pretty impactful.nobody gives a shit about the homos outside this thread
>>114678356you retards really want to try to pit Pebbles and KFP against each other huh? We are all HOLOLIVE here btw
>>114678383>We are all HOLOLIVEKiara doesn't like that
Animal Farm still doesn't apply and if you were going to use allegory it would be anti-capitalist not anti-communist
>>114678381Amount of sisters tried to link this merge with homo's defunding, or simply asked why weren't homos part of the merge, says otherwise
>>114678383But some are more hololive than others
>>114678383blame the retards shitting on kiara
>>114678376true equality has never been practiced at Hololive when this bitch exists.
>>114678381You can repeat that until your blue in the face, but its simply false. Multiple girls sacrificing themselves over the years and never recovering are proof.
>>114678401homosisters are peak loud minorityhomos are incredibly unpopular
>>114678297the least you can do for the latchkey sextoy is buy her a small gift>>114678313I'll get back to you, I thought it was acfun
>>114678057>You dare try this when IRyS who suffered more than anyone else at the hands of EN management is excited for what's to come?*ahem*>"I know sudden changes like this can bring up a lot of different feelings. Some of you might be surprised, some might feel a little sad or worried, and I get that. I felt that way too when I first heard the news. Change can be sorta scary.">"But even if names or structures change, none of the time we’ve spent together as hololive English, the memories we’ve made, or everything we’ve built along the way just disappears."She still eulogized the effective "death" of HoloEN just like Kiara, Ina, Mori and Bae did
>>114678149........
>>114678305hololive will never have a western event as big as PhaseCon which will only get bigger in the future. Now, the most promising en vtubers will look to Phase not holo when looking to go corpo. hololive will always be shackled by their shareholders and ceded the western market (way more opportunity for growth) to Phase.
Kiara is on suicide watch for the foreseeable future.
>>114678414the only girl who sacrificed herself to the holosharts was fauna and that was her choice
>The global VTuber market is currently valued at over $3 billion and is projected to skyrocket toward $10 billion or more over the next decade.https://www.mordorintelligence.com/industry-reports/vtuber-marketSweet
>>114678283>it's cute and sexi don't know if we're talking about the same thing...>that one greek anon.huh?
someone needs to do a welfare check on kiara
>>114678429>hololive will never have a western event as big as PhaseCon which will only get bigger in the future.If Hololive had a convention in the US, it would be bigger than PhaseCon without a doubt. But they will never do this, because they are fucking retarded and Japanese
>>114678259Oh sorry, I thought this would help pebbles release some frustration, it was a long day, you know?
>>114678433Most of that growth being in the Western market which Cover just abandoned
>>114678433>is projected to skyrocket toward $10 billion or more over the next decade.Cope
>>114678431Kronii did, multiple JP's did, all ID besides Kaela did.
>>114678430Actual lolcow
>>114678429>Now, the most promising en vtubers will look to PhaselolLMAO even
>>114678429>hololive will never have a western event as big as PhaseConWas Serenskibidy NOT bigger than Phasecon? lol
>>114678383War soon
>>114678469Literally nobody cares about "they collabed with the homos once" outside of this thread
new hololive (jp) is going to debut soonare you happy yet?
>>114678429Who the fuck are you trying to fool
>>114678429Nigga even the best phase talent you had in years (Nitya) only applied to phase because she physically can't handle holo lmfao. Go take a hike
>>114678429watch streams instead of shitposting
>>114678472They already lost Nitya Nil to Phase, who, if she joined HoloEN, you guys would be saying was the saviour of the branch
>>114678448Guys it’s not the merger, but this looks like an appropriate time to melt down.
>>114678502Grim for Phase Cucknet lmaaaaaooooooooo
Was Kiara exaggerating?
>>114678488It wasnt once, and the impact was directly negative to the girls earnings, while the homos stayed the same leeches.
So why wasn't an update for holodori ready to remove all the references to EN and ID? If it's about brand unity it's important to have consistency across all their products. Surely they knew about this in advance and had all the dialogue and UI updated to remove EN/ID/JP/dev is references?
>>114678466google kun kek
i trust kiara so i will doompost simple as
>Both Mori and Biboo have stable CCV But I thought they were dead after this!?
>>114678536like 99% of the time
>>114678537>the impact was directly negative to the girls earnings,All the homocollabs are still as popular as they were before
>>114678551no you don't
>>114678554drama buff
>>114678419is this your first time seeing IRyS politely treating the audience like babies because she knows better than outright saying she doesn't give a shit?
>>114678505>>114678508She was asked to kickstart the super duper summer eventShe did it by having the worst stream in her career on Phase
>>114678466Yeah, they basically decided that it's easier and safer to focus on milking more out of the Japanese audience (who I guess wills pend their last dime on this stuff), than experimenting with the Western market which has proven potential and is still untapped. The more established a corporation is, the more it will take the path of least resistance, and they've realized that they have (for now) a steady revenue stream in Japan.
>>114678430She was having a hard time competing with other ENs, now she has to compete with JP Titans as well?
>>114678467That's the wrong word nigga
>>114678554why aren't JP fans watching them now that they aren't EN?
Reminder:
>>114678457hatefapping to that stuff and then watching biboo until i pass out is my go-to stress relief ngl, but ignoring a biboo stream to do it feels wrong
>>114678445>that one greek anonpic related>>114678313sure you want to know? it's peak degeneracy/g/2844685/6771986788/page 60
this hololive version of Biboo is getting freaky
not looking good for king...
>>114678590based
>>114678554drama buff and the usual engine
>>114678488Kronii’s earnings and merch sales flatlined after her collabs with the shitters.
>>114678578>t which has proven potential and is still untapped.It's tappedHololive tapped itNow they're giving up on it
>>114678577They whore out the phase girls and they get even less viewership?
Nobody listened to Hitler when he was right, I won't make the same mistake with Kiara.
>>114678358There's no school on this planet 5 years ago that has online classes for game development. She was clearly using codewords. Shows how little you know
https://www.siliconera.com/hololive-justice-vtuber-merchandise-heading-to-mitsuwa-stores/
>>114678590told you only gura managed to expand the global audience, branches fate was sealed when she left
>>114678644Yes there was
>>114678619Yeah like they struck oil and then just decided it's too complicated to build a rig and left it there.
>>114678576Ogey nice cope I guess
uh cover? why did Kobo just mention hololive ID in this game? What is that?
>>114678661pretty much
>There's no school on this planet 5 years agoI think that was just your country bro
>>114678644you lost biboo schizo
>>114677887
>>114678419IRyS' statement on the entire thing is the best. It manages to have none of the doomposting of other messages while also respecting the people who are concerned. IRyS has always been super good at stuff like this. Perhaps she should have coached Kiara about professionalism. All the shit the girls are going to have to deal with and the questions they are going to have to answer from dumbasses are 90% because of Kiara's crashout. Kiara is not a professional.
>>114678679just say you're uneducated little bro
>>114677288IMAGINE PEEING IN THAT BUTT
>>114678149That’s not how anything works
>>114678691Irys doesn't give a shit because she wanted to be HoloJP from day one
>>114678695ironic lol
>>114676395Do it
New Studio Stellar Merch drop! Good luck to the lottery entrants!
>IDs are monkeyswow racist
>>114678591That's true, but it's a special occasion, so it's okay, right? It's not like I last long anyway...
>>114678729fuck donie. doesn't change what I said
>>114678741>see no evil: ela>hear no evil: kobo>speak no evil: zetaheh
>>114678741>IDsWhat?
>>114678650>august 27coma?
Saba's mama has been melting down all day about the merger on her Twitter alt
Why are they so happy?
>>114678741It's okay, Holo ID is dead now.
>>114678691Hers was written by either a manager or chatGPT. It reads fully as PR speak and has a lot of similarities as Bae’s statement in terms of wording and flow.
>>114678778link?
kill yourself, sheep faggot
>>114678746oh god, the meat fang is doing things to my dick
I just got home and am trying to catch up with everything (I already knew about the merge when I was at work, ofc). Why did you guys group Bae and Kiara + Ollie together in previous thread? Bae's post was a lot more positive about the merge and her main issue was just the loss of "HoloEN" brand (it was more of being nostalgic than being outright unhappy, even).Can I assume anons were just shitposting when they grouped Bae and Kiara + IDs together in the "Unhappy" group?
>>114678309ya yagoo hires literal children he's just that based
>>114678723That is ignoring the entire point of the post. Even Biboo said today that nothing will change. Kiara's emotional melty is going to cause more stress for the girls when this entire rebranding was never that big a deal to begin with. Kiara can't realize that streaming is becoming a more competitive market by the day and Hololive has to evolve and change to stay a leg up. Kiara just can't comprehend that. She is also too emotionally tied to the past. That is why she did that stupid "blue and gold" song and keeps bringing Ame back for her concerts.
Hololive wonUnicorns wonI won (did nothing)
>>114678149>NIJIEN WILL MERGE>NIJIEN WILL MERGE>NIJIEN WILL MERGE>NIJIEN WILL MERGEFew months later>Hello everyone this is motoaki tanigo and we are merging holoen and holoid because they don't make money for shitAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>114678796HEY NO, I ONLY LIKE OPPAI LOLIS
>>114678691really? IRyS' statement was the most corpospeak feeling out of all of them
>>114678644???
>>114678149Thing have been rough for holobronies...
I'm starting to think zoomers are fucked if they don't know what professional messaging looks like versus ChatGPT
>>114678809It's not just Kiara who is upsetEN vtubing is not becoming more competitive, and Hololive basically just withdrawing from the EN market because they can't be assed
>>114678781It's called being a professional which is why IRyS and Bae will continue to thrive. You take a day and then post a composed statement that encapsulates everything. You don't go on a meltdown melty immediately after it gets announced like Kiara.
>>114678799>Why did you guys group Bae and Kiara + Ollie together in previous thread?Shitposters just trying to group of girls they don't like in their own out-group
The merger is a banishment room for the ones that don't speak japanese btw. Less and less opportunities for all of them until they all graduate and hololive returns to being JP only. They don't want to be global in terms of having foreigners working for them and having multiple languages, they want to take their Japanese product globally and keep it Japanese.
>>114678817>>114678853lol
Kiara is the voice of reasons. She represents the talent. So what she's saying now is very alarming. She's the only one who can check the management is doing something bad for the talent. If she quits then it's over for hololive.
>>114678781>IRyS was so retarded that her manager had to borrow Bae's post to feed to chatGPT because she couldn't trust IRyS to make a proper statement...IRyS...Joking asides, IRyS has always been able to make proper statements when it comes to something important (which, I guess to be fair, has only happened thrice so far). She might be dumb when it comes to things she didn't care about, but she is definitely smart enough to express her mind in a polite, business-like manner if she is given time to think
>>114678783https://x.com/shouukyun/with_replies
>>114678644you guys are both wrong it was 6 years ago in highschool the game dev shit for like a year was after that
>>114678870Phasebros now like kiara?
>>114678870>Kiara is the voice of reasons.Yo, this is the best joke of the year
>>114678809Kiara could catch real heat because of her actions today during her stream and her pre-chat. JP corpos hate employees speaking ill of their company and she did just that. Compound it with her apparently being a lot of trouble already and her even saying she is going to get even further trouble because of her stream (and later pre-chat) that she could see a suspension or a “company mandated break” à la Haachama.
>>114678853As far as EN goes it basically is just Kiara that is upset. All the other statements were optimistic overall while acknowledging that change can be uncomfortable for the fans.
>>114678809It's just shitposting because of one line "There's a lot to be upset about..." but left out the rest of the context. Bae has a sololive coming up and already slated for other hololive projects along with her other unreleased stuff so nothing changes for her.
>>114678853Do you think they are going to dump EN market or EN fans are going to dump them just because they dropped the "EN" in their name?
>>114678781it literally reads exactly like that tweet that was made by her manager over the chatgpt controversy
>>114678870The problem is that Kiara complains about literally everything so you can't really trust her statement at all.
>>114678779Same as Biboo, they have no since of semblance with the idea being "HoloEN" because they weren't around for the shit years, and for them personally having the EN label was more of a burden
>>114678870If she was the voice of reason, she wouldn't have felt isolated and other girls would've shared her sentiments
i just masturbated to biboo and now I feel like a filthy pig what the fuck is my problem
>>114678893company mandated fucking meds would do her good
>>114678902he has brown skin his brain literally works that way
>>114678895Mori and Bae were both coping hard, they were not optimistic>>114678902>Do you think they are going to dump EN marketMore or less, I think they're just going to keep coasting and not make a serious effort to appeal to EN fans anymore
>>114677288>>114677667
>>114678857My oshi doesn't care. As long as she can stream kusoges, she doesn't give a hoot about JP stuff. Her merch still sells out, she still gets to do her stupid shit once a year and enjoy streaming to her fans (me)
meanwhile the face of EN
Okay, but why doesn't NijiEN get merged at all despite underperforming compared to HoloEN or even HoloID? It seems absurd desu
>>114678611wtf
>>114678870Thanks Mr. ESL, I'm sure you know what you're talking about when it comes to english speaking holos
>>114678866>Oooooo CCV is the only legit number that mattersThe suits already spoke and for them en and id revenue is so bad that they were forced into banishment room and now Kiara and others are throwing melty about how bad things are Holocuck keep jerking off to your CCV cuck tally while talents start dropping out like flies because they are now nothing
ngl it would've gone a long way towards alleviating everyone's concerns and uncertainty of the future if they had announced a new EN gen instead of yet another JP gen
>>114678880NTA, but what, that was Saba's mama? I saw some of her posts earlier (and might have called her retarded in a nice way as response to one of those) but I didn't know that. Did Saba / Gura drop the menhera KR artist?
>>114678902You're replying to idiots. You're wasting your time. Instead give me your time by looking at this
non jp speaker holos have to compete with this from now on
>>114678620>They whore out the phase girls and they get even less viewershipyes, that's how grim it is for Phase Connect.
>>114678907grems see a crumb
>>114678952You were schizo hoodwimped all this time anon. Holoen and holoid was performing way worse than nijien they were propped up to make it look like they were doing well
>>114678902No, it's HololiveJP who is going to dump the JP market. They lost the "JP" part too
>>114678430lol if she did a selen cover wouldn't even notice for like 3 months. no former ENs would realized till the pub announcement. Fucking ID would realize she was gone before any en would.
>>114679002Put those grippers away ma'am
>>114678818READY PLAYER ONE 622118638036629010530422
>>114678952NijiJP might hate NijiEN more than us, they would riot if Anycolor gets that filth anywhere near themIf Anycolor touches NijiEN is to kill it like they did with the India iteration
>>114678984>Menhera KR artistThat was Ame
>>114678952They dont get paid anything? Work second jobs and live off SC, same as phase. Both will disappear without a whimper like Vshojo one day.
>>114678902>or EN fans are going to dump themI mean it's happening gradually even for me I only keep up with like 2 or 3 of the EN girls these days when a couple years ago I was invested in the entire branch and some JP/ID
have you ever thought people wouldn't hate you if you didn't hate everyone else for no reason
>>114678952It doesn't matter at this point /#/ has already decided that folding your EN branch isn't a bad thing actually, isn't a sign of poor performance and won't change anything for the talents at all
>>114678586they are, why do you think their CCV is stable?
>>114679002
>>114678937you defiled your body for an idol
>>114678952Because this merge was an administrative move and not a business one
>>114678809>She is also too emotionally tied to the pastTHIS. Kiara should learn to let go of the past and face the present
>>114678870>Kiara is the voice of reasons.Anon she was literally saying she might turn to drinking alcohol (despite being straight edge) to cope with the bad newsThere's NO where near reasonable lol
>>114678979Okay you can have subs too
I'll be back in 11 hours
>>114678980nope, i don't want another shiori and erb
Remember when you guys used to say nijien is merging, phase is dying and guess what 2 more weeks arrived and your en and id bitches are now put into the same corner as homostars
>>114678781>PR speak>>114678824>corpospeak>>114678914>managersaplings infest these halls
>>114679021I already read all of those. Thanks anyway. Personally the last one is my favorite
>>114679050>Removing two brands is not a business moveOkay
>>114679077It's funny how I click a button and then you lose
>>114678766>>114678780it would be funny if some of these girls actually incline thanks to not having the "ID" name anymore
Kiara should do what suisei did. Create her own management agency. Imagine studio Kiara a lot of holo's that are against the merge will definitely transfer to that.
>>114679077ohhh, so that's what's going on here, sisters are desperate to pretend this merge thing is the same thing as the failures being stalin'd
>>114678870>Kiara is the voice of reasons.This is the first time in history that SEA and Europe are hand-in-hand allies and agree on something. And of course, that means it is the most retarded thing you could imagine
>>114678866meloco en gold kek
>>114679108Also Blue Homo is mogging Phase lmao
>>114679108CCV cope once again >>114679113Yeah Kiara is totally happy
Can >we not pretend Kiara is Europe?If anything, I am Europe and I have never wanted any of the things claimed by SEA about EU.
>>114679108KEK
>>114679054Kiara represents the talent anon. I won't be surprised if the talents share the same sentiments.
>>114678902Yes?They need to compete with main branch now and they can't rely on EN market anymore, so obviously they will somewhat try to appeal more to JP audience
>>114679038Then why merge EN and ID into JP? It makes zero sense as to why, unless there was some invisible metric JP was meeting by all three other branches were.
>>114678893Nah, Termination.
>>114679137Oh thats a good game actually, I might have checked his stream out if he wasnt some faggot anime thing.
Merger so good ppd went from 21k to 22k So how long we are gonna see this effect a week???
Peko won.
>>114679160>Then why merge EN and ID into JP?They're not. JP is gone, too. It's just hololive now
>>114679104>two brands3 actually. HololiveJP is merged into Hololive, too
>>114679142Don't worry that sentiment is already heard since Vexpo didn't invite Kiara to it for anything.
>>114679175depends on kiara
>>114679175The most influential corpo. But the excitement will probably only last for a day
People saying that Kiara just needs therapy are wrong; whe needs to go and finish some courses at a university/college, or do crosswords/sudoku/other mind games. Not for a diploma or anything, but to actually learn how to think. She is genuinely dumb in a way only hillbilly high school dropouts are. It's like she doesn't have the synaptic pathways that an education forces your brain to develop over time, the kinds that allow you to think of something, reflect on what is correct and false about it, then advance your conclusion to a more intelligent position. Currently it's like she stops at the first step and never thinks beyond the first thought that pops up in her mind, regardless of how contrary to reality it is.
>>114679180Hololive was JP, they just didn’t put Hololive Japan as the branch name since it was just Hololive.
>>114677416They love her, that's why they hatewatched her karaoke.
Apparently it's bad if an EN only watcher does not care about JP talents, but it's a-okay if a JP only watcher does not care about the EN talents? Huh?
>>114678631>schizobabble convinced enough people to start shit>accomplish nothing>country ruined>women raped>kills himselfIt looks familiar but Kiara is a runt
I guess mori no longer has to worry about being the face of EN.
>>114679175Back in the day, we used to conquer the world...
Because of the sheer amount of anting I've seen on my TL for the jp holos and FWMC and everyone elseFor the first time in my life ever I understand Kiaraschizo
>>114679222Then why are they also taking the JP out of everyone's names, then
>>114679226No thats fine to, I just dont know why a JP only watcher is typing in English on an English board.
/baubau/ is melting down
>>114678900Maybe Bae could have not said that line to begin with? Like it or not, adding that line adds additional context. Like the other guy said, IRyS's statement had nothing like that and was fine
>>114679215Kiara heard on July about the merge and her first train of thought was to join an Indie concert no matter what even if everything pointed to that concert being a messLo and behold the concert only sells 50% of the tickets and now she forgot to sign up to even the most mundane shit like SHIRTS. Her mental breakdown is due to the fact that she wasted very valuable time playing dolls with a Filpino midget a married woman and a leech and now thinks she will never get that time back
>>114678979-8
https://x.com/HanaMacchia2/status/2097119738984099922
I participated in the drama too much and now I have to find some (AI) lewd Fate / HSR pics to like to fix my Twitter algorithm...
>>114679273must be a day ending in y
>>114679283im sorry gura and suisei are both flips???
>>114679273なんで
I think they'll have to rename the ID groups, since they were just Holo ID Gen1, Holo ID Gen2 and Holo ID Gen3.
>>114679273Because of the banner?
>>114679282The last time Bae tried to be 100% positive about a change she got called a bootlicker
>>114679317No one has talked to gura in over 7 months, move on.
>>114678857Well that won't happen. They'll retain a rump weeb audience in the West but that's it. Maybe they can grow more in Asia but even that's difficult if you're not really trying to meet those audiences.
>>114678952NijiEN has never underperformed. They perform exactly to their expectations.
>>114678340>some indies are telling retarded antis offOh? Which ones?
>>114679325Their unit names will be ID1, ID2 and ID3. Problem solved.
>>114679283She made the right choice. Hololive is a sinking ship. I won't be surprised if Kiara made a group with Iron mouse and other big indies that will give talent more freedom
Lost in all the shitposting is that the biggest losers of the news were by far the few EU fans we have.Hololive confirmed that they don't see Europe as a viable market or as a priority for expansion.Were the EUschizos right? Is the Europe market actually worthless for vtubers?
>>114679366But ID is no more....
>>114678381Yeah but they're loud
I wonder how management thought the news of the merger was going to over with the western fanbase, were they expecting this backlash or did they actually think we would be happy?
>>114679089>oppai lolihow low can you go?yurarin is peak handfuls 517810or taji when he draws loli stuff 575717oh, and almost forgot obui 522553and this one 347410
>>114679361None remarkable. I just saw some with "VTuber" or "VGen" in their names
>>114679390Sorry but I won the hardest and your skin is brown
>>114679390There's a significant amount of EU vtubersBarbies are EU and they're decently popular for indiesI think Europeans aren't really a cultural match for Hololive maybe because they don't have all the Asian / brown immigrants that the USA has
>>114679400>management>thoughtlmao
>>114679399
>>114679335>be so worried about imaginary schizos that you create material for other schizos to useSmart
>>114679390Any market that demands to be catered to first won't be appealing to nip's conversative businesses
>>114679226Do you go to JP twitter and say how stupid JPs are for not doing more for their English-speaking fans? Maybe think a little before you say dumb shit.
>>114679328because the browncord is raiding
yab
hololive is winning
>>114679400the western audience has more access to information regarding how japanese companies work and how their higher ups thinkalmost everyone in the west can see a banishment room situation very clearly even if they're ignorant to other aspects of japanese culture, and the merger is just one big banishment room to make their foreigners quit little by little while they try to minimize bad press
>>114679390>Is the Europe market actually worthless for vtubers?I dunno, I assume Europe doesnt really have many East Asians and thus much less anime/vtuber interest.
>>114679109Kaela will benefit the most from not being associated with the ID brand anymore.
>>114679283>playing dolls with a Filpino midget a married woman and a leechThose three reached out to Kiara and acknowledged her talent and beauty on stage and they were flexible to her schedule.She enjoyed performing with them.
>>114679441NTA, but funny you say this, because I've seen some retards doing exactly that during this drama
>>114678148sounds like pagpagsagi followe DU30 will turn him into an ashtray one day
Kind of insane you have guys like this just straight up lying https://x.com/Luis301208/status/2097068986395414603>Many of the EN girls already speak more Japanese than Englishand actually get likes Thank god for Helmir immediately destroying his ass
>>114679386Trying a bit too hard. Drop the "talent freedom" part and you have a good bait thread for the catalogue.Remember: the bait you spam is not for intelligent people; it is for low-IQ ESLs who think that if they don't reply and "win" theit family loses honor.
>>114679283Kiara showing up to that mess of a concert was a huge red flag.
>>114679463If these girls can tweet, then they can stream. So get on it.
>>114679410I won because I've wanted Cover to purge schizo EUs like you for years. All the biggest schizos who anti Hololive on this board are Euros. You guys turned Nerissa and CC menhera.Hololive won. You lost
>>114679390I watch Biboo, retard
>>114679215Explain IRyS then. She is really dumb too but she never does shit like this.
>/vcuck/ imageAnd then you wonder why people left for the tower lmao
>>114679509She made the right choice. Having option is needed when she's getting sidelined.
>>114679390>offer shit product>people don't buy itI bet yuros would rather watch JPs they don't understand than fucking Kiara and ERB
>>114679514Too long.I watch Hololive.I won.
>>114679514EUbros dont understand that its their law about anime thats preventing hololive to do concerts in their area
>>114679501I meant, that's no different from saying things like "IRyS speaks Japanese half of the time anyway" and when anyone actually looked it up, it was closer to 10% than 50% of her streams
The shark sends her regards https://x.com/MoedredCo/status/2097094400820080739?s=20
>>114679529IRyS is professional and will only publicly meltdown about her bromance ships
>>114679485Nigga, that's why I brought it up. It wasn't a hypothetical, it was a comparison to what idiots do, in hope that smarter people realize what lowlife they get grouped with when they act on impulse like that.
>>114679529Being almost retarded basically disables you from making smart and dumb decisions.
# Hololive's Merger — Upsides and DownsidesI think the merger is strategically sensible, but there's a real risk that EN/ID lose some of the identity and autonomy they've built up.## Upsides**1. Stronger global brand**Instead of presenting hololive JP, hololive English, and hololive Indonesia as separate branches, COVER can present **hololive as one global talent organization**. This fits COVER's broader goal of becoming a global entertainment company rather than simply a Japanese VTuber agency with overseas branches.**2. Fewer artificial walls between talents**The old structure could make collaborations feel like "JP meets EN" or "JP meets ID." A unified structure makes mixed-language groups much more natural, without needing to think about branch representation.**3. More freedom for events**Previously, major global events might feel obligated to include JP, EN, and ID representatives. With one organization, COVER can simply choose whoever fits the project best, potentially creating more interesting JP/EN/ID combinations.**4. EN/ID could gain access to more resources**If the merger is genuine integration, EN and ID talents could have greater access to Japanese media, concerts, advertisements, game collaborations, merchandise, music projects, and large-scale events. Instead of operating as semi-independent branches, everyone is part of the same pipeline.**5. Less duplicated management**COVER can potentially centralize marketing, events, production, and business development while still maintaining language-specific support where necessary. That could make the company more efficient.## Downsides**1. EN loses an important identity**This is my biggest concern. Hololive English isn't just a geographic label anymore; it developed its own culture, memes, generations, music, history, audience, and community. "Hololive EN fan" communicates something that simply saying "hololive fan" doesn't. Removing the formal branch risks weakening that identity.**2. The merger could become "JP absorbs EN/ID"**This is the biggest thing I'd watch. There are two very different ways this can play out:> **Good:** JP + EN + ID one global hololive> **Bad:** JP core organization, EN/ID supporting talent poolsIf the second happens, this isn't really globalization; it's centralization around JP. Since JP is historically much larger and more established, that risk is real.**3. EN could lose its own ecosystem**EN developed its own culture partly because it wasn't simply treated as "JP but English." If everything becomes one organization, COVER may increasingly prioritize company-wide projects over specifically EN-oriented initiatives. That's efficient, but could hurt EN's distinctiveness.**4. Language and cultural barriers remain**Changing the organizational chart doesn't change reality. JP, EN, and ID still have different languages, time zones, audiences, cultural expectations, and streaming styles. **Organizational integration ≠ cultural integration.** If COVER pushes too hard for everyone to function as one ecosystem, some talents may actually have less room to operate naturally.**5. Fan perception could be terrible**Even if COVER's intention is positive, "we're eliminating the branches" can easily be interpreted as **"EN is being dismantled."** Especially after all the changes EN has gone through, that creates unnecessary anxiety even if COVER doesn't intend to reduce EN's importance.## The Key QuestionThe important question isn't **"Did EN die?"**It's:> **"What happens to EN and ID's resources and identity after the merger?"**If we see more EN/JP/ID mixed concerts, international projects, EN/ID participation in major events, cross-language units, and global marketing, then this could be a very smart move.But if JP gets most of the major projects while EN/ID receive fewer dedicated projects and their branding gradually disappears, the cynical interpretation becomes much more convincing:> **They didn't really merge the branches. They absorbed EN and ID into the JP-centered organization.**## Overall Assessment| Area | Verdict || -------------------------- | -------------------------- || Global branding | Excellent || Cross-branch collaboration | Excellent || Corporate efficiency | Good || International expansion | Good || EN identity | Major risk || ID identity | Major risk || JP dominance | Biggest risk || Fan reception | Potentially problematic || Long-term potential | Very high |I'd watch **resource allocation rather than the announcement's wording**, because ultimately, the budget will tell us what "one hololive" actually means.
>>114679408Oh it's just some random indie, thanks anon>>114679430I didn't screenshots of everything, but Yagoo's QRTs are full of people like thathttps://x.com/tanigox/status/2096931657077182906/quotes
NijiEN thinks they can win the EN market now>>114679458
>>114679501>check his repliesHoly shit Canada and Mexico just merged into the US!!!
>>114679471>much less anime/vtuber interest.For anime France exist, IDK about Vtuber
>>114679471Europeans on average have significantly less spending power than Americans and in terms of pop culture make it big in America you'll have an audience in Europe which isn't true in reverse. EU was never going to be catered to, they know it and will still continue to complain.
>>114679603is trump just an 80 year old boomer posting aislop all day now?
>>114677989Why Gigi phone have a lot of cracks?
>>114679514cringe and gay>>114679543true and based
>>114679529IRyS is more naive and sheltered as opposed to straight up dumb. Kiara is legit dumb.
>>114679552>but option 2 would probably be dissolve ID and purge about a third of ENLiterally WHAT is this retard basing this on? lmao
>>114679399Those are literal whosI can even bet that half of them are nijiJPnegross
Kiara and ollie are the real ones. Other who play safe are cover bootlicker. If you don't support kiara and ollie, yoi don't support the very thing that made hololive popular.
>>114679463how can they joke when the walls are collapsing around them?
>>114679529The truth is that IRyS is not really dumb. She leans into being an airhead because it's an enjoyable state of being for her but make no mistake, she is NOT dumb. I have said this before and I'll say it again that her true intelligence comes into play when she has to address serious stuff and there's tons of examples of this like with HLZTL and Fauna's graduation and now this
>>114679596Nijifags have been running victory laps all dayI told you guys Nijifags were still active on this board but noooo you guys wouldn't believe meThey're all over twitter too
kronii's thoughts on the merger
>SEA wakes up>The holo anti loop resets
anyone not living in Japan just got banishment roomed, ID, Euros, Burgers
>>114679552After your best talents graduate and the branch is stagnant it becomes impossible to grow significantly, yes.
look me in my eyes and tell me they merge EN if gura fauna and mumei are still here, their graduations killed the branch
>>114679644>because it's an enjoyable state of being for herAnd for us
>>114679623Sure, but what I mean is that they're very loud (it's useless the fags are dead)
this might be the end of hololive
>>114679536But now that she found out her 2nd option isn't working out, while she is having problem with changes on 1st option, she's crashing out even harderIf she'd never done that, she could still tell herself that she would be massive as an indie w/ proper teammates
>>114679634Because the walls aren't collapsing around them. The entire overreaction to this announcement is quite funny. It's just a branding thing and the girl's activities are barely going to change. People need to chill.
>>114679673No, it's the beginning of HololiveBut it's the end of HoloEN and HoloID
>>114679215So in other words.. she's a normal woman?
>>114679625Ollie is the antithesis of what Hololive is supposed to represent
Merge or not, it's a total homo death.That's the main reason why Nijisisters, Phasecucks and Indiescucks are seething about.
>>114679666>faunaLooooool
>>114679644She's like this meme?
>>114679531How would you know?
>>114679652they aren't even trying to hide it
>>114679552>the numbers aren't thereLmao this idiot is now saying that all vtuber are fucking worthless because Hololive ENglish has always been the biggest entity there is
>JPs keep it professional >ENchuds and Indogs being dramaqueen over itTerminate these whores
i want you to image kiara is your wife now i want you to image you and her are in a crisis situation
>>114679689and HoloJP, don't forget that. You guys keep leaving them out, but they were part of the merge, too
>>114679529IRyS is just dumb, not uneducated. She prefers to do things that don't require her to think, but she knows that she doesn't know most things that her peers do. Kiara doesn't seem to know that she can reach incorrect conclusions, and only reflects on her thoughts when other people tell her exactly what to think.
>>114679670Are they loud? I never see these people unless someone posts them here
>>114679695I hate Mint so much for ruining hololive
>I feel like EN is being sidelined. Like, the merger is sidelining EN and ID girls from opportunities and… yeah. […] Don’t worry! I’m not leaving I’ll tell you that. I’m okay with being sidelined.>people won't get it until It's too late>it's just over and sometimes things don't change for the better>that's just the way it is>I'm won't be surprised if I get in trouble for this stream, I'm already in troubleWill Kiara be okay?
>>114679712Based?
is there a reason only mori and biboo bothered to stream today?
>>114679719We don't have to play dumb. HoloEN and HoloID got merged into the HoloJP structureSidebranches and main branch was not a joke.
Kfp are on a roll they are attracting the sisters from the fucking grave
>>114679651>give her a home to stayFuggghttps://exhentai.org/g/3993923/9937955708/
>>114679666Those 3 (and Ame) left because they knew the writing was on the wall. You dont think it was a coincidence that the people who graduated during that year were all Americans living outside of Japan, right
>>114679607That to, I always forget EU fags get charged up the ass for much less.
>>114679618Probably the same line of reasoning some sisters thought - that this decision was the same as their decision to defund homostars
>>114679703oh maybe because a bunch of cucks are erping in the thread and desu has a hash look up.YOu enjoy playing dumb innit? I am thankful KIWIFARMS dox your kind.
>>114679651could even just be kroma retweeting for her
Pippa still not back with her boyfriend?
>>114679730On Twitter and Reddit? yes (right now on Reddit, they're getting torn apart by Holofans)
>>114679738They’re the only ones who can handle the heat
>>114679679The biggest hurdle for indies really is the interaction like in hololive or organic story line. What they need to do to bolster this is actually create a massive group that consist of big indies that can play in a big server whether its MC/Rust/GTA etc., Once they perfected it I would honestly be scared for hololive.
>>114679748fuuuhh I nutted looking at this
>>114679712mousey mogs holo deadENd
>>114679758Oh you're a schizo nvm
>>114679718pls kys we hate kiara here
>>114679734no she might unironically an hero >>114678430
>>114679692No. Mori is normal, or Raora, or any pf the other English-speaking members. Kiara is just dumb, unlike a normal woman.
>>114679778Vshojo is dead
>>114679747>It's just NijIEN scandaleNijicultist...
>>114679778>can't sell more than 50 tickets to her most recent club ironmouse eventflopmouse gets mogged by fucking homoshitters lmao
>>114679733Reminder that Mori knew all of this was happening and still decided to invite Mint, Ironmouse, and Amalee to her anniversary instead of Holos
>>114679798Doesn't matter. Mouse is Queen of Indies now
>>114679738Mori and Biboo are like 2 of the 5 ENs who actually give a shit about streaming on regular basis
mori is really trying to avoid the elephant in the room, she's sounded stressed and nervous the entire stream trying to pretend everything is okay
>>114679702Exactly
>>114679644>Fauna's graduationWasn't that summed up as "You know what I really love? Meat!"?
>>114679806>Indies are dead
>>114679776never gonna happen with indies because its a crabs in a bucket mentality for them the slightest yab just gets them thrown into the woodchipper by other indies
>>114679776They'll never manage to do it because all indies are massive emotional dramafags for no good reason. Remember the drama regarding raiding people or even saying hi in chat?
>>114679806Lost to vedal, lol
>>114679804shes popular enough to be in fortnite and mori begged for her to show up to her 6th year anniversary keep coping over your dead branch
>>114679738Kiara streamed today too
>>114679738In otherwords, a normal day? Most of EN doesn't stream and now we're never getting a full gen of reinforcements ever again.
>>114678661many such cases in the 3rd world but more like they've built a rig and killed it with corrupt cleptocracy
>>114679847melty
>>114679847>in fortnitemogged by Suzy>mori beggedWrong, flopmouse begged Mori to save club ironmouse in the past, as we can see from her being unable to sell even 100 tickets by herself in the last month LOL
>>114679840That's the Duke of Indies. Peanut is the King of Indies, btw.
>>114679778Ironkek got mogged by an offcollab Japanese karaoke
>>114679829>>114679833I honestly think they can do it. But they need someone to be the leader. For example kiara or IM.
You know the merger thing wouldn't have been such a big issue if FUCKING KIARA AND OLLIE SHUT THE FUCK UP. Every single nigger out there is using them as a shield to shit on Hololive and Holojp. They keep parroting the same line if someone tries to justify the merger saying oh Kiara is crying oh Ollie and id is upset
>>114679820Based
>>114679634
Did we talk about the saiken news?
>>114679895>Anon discovers why people hate Ollie and Iofi
>>114679805Mori isn't leaving anytime soon but she'll still pull stuff like this to make sure management know she has connections outside of holo unlike most of EN
>>114679847Actually yeah with hololive officially withdrawing from the english market ironmouse is the uncontested #1 english vtuber
>>114679738Most of the now defunct holoEN branch never streamed to begin with so most of them don't wanna stream by default and it makes them wanna stream even less when they know chat will only talk about the merger
>>114679825yeah, randon's
>SEA wakes up>thread goes to shit
>>114679895It would have been the same because people aren't stupid and don't believe Cover's lies.
Uh oh
get in herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxFNJhUl9ckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxFNJhUl9ck
>>114679609It's just the screen protector
>>114679848No?
>>114679911he's already drowning in indie vtuber pussy dude is about to be unable to go in public without them throwing themselves at him now
>>114679934nigga the thread has been shit the entire day
>>114679806Vedal is more popular.Veibae is also more popular than Ironmouse.
>Mori 7kGold? Oh wait nvm no it'll be Miko or Pekora
>>114679719actually is holo JP dropping gen numbers now?
>>114679926He's not talking about Nimi...
>>114679895Add Iofi to that. It's really just Kiara, Ollie and Iofi who are responsible for this whole mess
>>114679969no
>>114679950>I don't know if Hololive as a public company is gonna have boys in 10 yearswhat do you fucking think nigga
>>114679977you cant even shitpost properly
>>114679961Yes? An unarchived karaoke
NIJIGODSFUCKINGWON
>>114679895I was saying this when Kiara started melting down earlier but people told me Kiara doesn't matter lol. Almost none of the talents sound happy, but there's no way it isn't gonna be an optical disaster when this is the tone being set. Cover can't be happy with them.
>>114679953
gura is back
Who tf is this Justin Ch. In Mori's chat that has been shitting the whole thing up
niji's new debut is about to get mogged by Biboo by the way
why was half the trailer for the holo anime just reused clips from holoalt and holo earth?
>>114679717>JP's get flat or a slight increase in a budget that is already overflowing with cash>EN and ID just had their budget go to pekomiko in the name of unity, and Mori and IRyS kept flatRemember that, no matter what anyone says, this will always come back to profit and revenue and talent compensation.The talents complained about byzantine management layers but what they got was a reduction in funding and a slashing of staff. Which is why YOU NEVER COMPLAIN AT WORK.
>4% english ratiogosh
>>114679993Sorry your bois aren't getting gold
>>114679894Pfft no one is going to listen to Kiara or Ironmouse if they couldn’t even get their own coworkers to
>>114680030I think that's the indie homo that arranged the III homo version (which is surprisingly popular)
>>114679953is this one of the 2view they were shilling as EN5? hope her japanese is good.
>>114680040niji "no tally" sanji kwab
>>114680012This thread copes by saying "x doesn't matter" when it's convenient for them. Hololive is not Nijisanji. Every girl matters. That's both a strength when things are going great and a weakness when some people are unhappy.
>>114680030who? been watching the whole stream I haven't noticed
>fwmc tweet>in English WTF>WTF WTF
>>114679895Yep, Kiara is 90% of the reason for this shit storm. She needs to be be sent to the funny farm and force fed meds like they did with Haachama.
>>114679895>You know the merger thing wouldn't have been such a big issue if FUCKING KIARA AND OLLIE SHUT THE FUCK UPNo it would still be an issue because the continued existence of branch specific shit like the yearly HoloEN concert, ENreco, or ID usually having a yearly event celebrate Indonesian independence day is entirely up in the air right now
>>114680088Check Holodex
>>114680030He got rejected out of Holostars but decent utaite. He had the popular III cover. Unironically holostars might have lived if they hired him instead the first gen homos to set the tone.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqyD4LfQRwo
>>114680032the studio is literally going bankrupt the anime is going to be a mess and probably won't get a 2nd season
Kiara is more popular than you'd like to admit, you know it and that's why it bothers you every time she opens her mouth.
>>114680032Isn't it the same studio?
This is why I hate brown asians and brown people
>>114680103No one likes ENreco slop and I hope it gets cancelled. It was only good in Season 1 for the novelty (and it wasn't even that good outside one storyline) and each new season is worse than the one before it. Is anyone actually excited for the Justice chapter?The only thing I'm worried about is the EN concert and that's because of what Mori said a few months ago, but let's wait and see what happens with that first.
>>114679895>OllieMakes that all of ID except ID3
do JP fags realize the whole ''she shouldn't look that its a bad look'' thing they do when kiara has a meltdown looks bad to EN?
>>114680114She is pretty popular among schizos and shitposters, that's for sure
>>114680103Yeah it's in the air and I can retort saying it's in the air but the retards push me back saying "Kiara being sad means it's gone"I cannot argue in good faith to anyone because they just pull out the talents are sad about it why are you being toxic positive
>>114680114I attracted to retards but Kiara manages to out-retard even my horniness.
>>114680052Imagine a group consist of Kiara, IM, saba, dooby and nimi in that group that would literally shake vtubing world. That's like mth 2.0. Then they will slowly add new members slowly like doki, mint etc.,
>>114679695TRVKE!!!
>>114680152Your English is somehow getting worse the longer you type?
>>114679911This will at least finally kill the whole "Is Saiken actually a doctor?" shit - which I don't understand why some anons were so obsessed by.
>>114680152You know time has passed since you made a similar post word for word right? Try to rephrase it at least.
>>114679776>Here's how the Indie Avengers can still happenOn September 2026? You're fucking pathetic
>>114680145Excepr ID3 and Anya
I like Supernatural, Quantum Leap and Hololive
Nerissa "doesn't care" just because she fundamentally doesn't think very highly of herself and doesn't feel like she deserves anything, she's just happy to be included in whatever.
>>114680180Because why would you be a vtuber if you are a doctor? At least be a cool CC like Mike
>>114680183That's possible. You just need to believe.
>>114680216trvke, shes menhera
>>114680107This is just as insufferable as homos
>>114680216I think it's because she moved to JP, she understood the assignment
>>114680183you have to have understand that liggers believe there is a mythical indie who will unite all the other indies and lead them to the promised lands
>>114680235No. Why should I wastefully believe in something I don't care about?
>>114680230Probably because he is a weeb (is he? idk).
It's like when federation ships have their own insignia and then years later, they all use the same insignia that the Enterprise uses.
Just got home. Busy day huh holochads?
>>114680264Kson...
>>114680216Nerissa is also not stupid.
>>114680280Every day is the same, we win
>>114680094It's an ad
>>114679776>implying indie whores can ever work togetherHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>korone removed any mentions of hololive from both her twitter and youtube ch.rrats?
>damage control stream alreadyCover really fucked up and enraged most hololive fans with this stupid excuse for a 9th anniversary celebration
new Hololive, still mogging nijiJP trash
>>114680311she purchased her IP and left?
>>114679734>sidelining EN and ID girls from opportunitiesisn't it just her? others still get opportunities just fine, shiori and zeta just got their merch
>>114680312lol
>SEA hours>Every post is a brown person shitting and repeating the same thing they said yesterday
>>114679734Kiara needs to learn peace
>>114679895Maybe it wouldn't be a big matter today so you could cope just a bit longer before the scale of downsizing is impossible to ignore? None of the other members said anything properly reassuring it's just "I really hope for the best" I feel like if this wasn't a bad news management would tell them in detail about all the exciting stuff coming later let's be real Kiara defended and praised management numerous times including last year she is emotional but this is actually not super typical from her. Nobody confirmed EN reco or concerts are there to stay so far, nobody seem to know anything for sure that's not a good sign. Why hide things like this if you don't want your talents and audience to doompost? It all just doesn't make sense.
>>114680312>Talk about Holosexnice
>>114680216Nerissa wants a sololive and she understands that with her weak numbers she needs more JP fans to even get a small sololive in Japan. This is good for her.
>>114679776>What they need to do to bolster this is actually create a massive group that consist of big indies that can play in a big server whether its MC/Rust/GTA etcThey've done those, SEVERAL times. It did not work.
>>114680312I don't want Fubuki to tell me what to think. I want Kiara dressed up as Fubuki to tell me what to think.
>>114680335Isnt that their new golden boy? Got bored that quick?
>>114680276idk either, but you can not blame anons doubting his "job" when we are used to dog girls, half demons and the like lore vtubers. Maybe the guy really wanted to larp as a doctor we didn't know.
>>114679894>I honestly think they can do itYou're wrong. They can't.
>>114680352amitabha your sister
>>114679734Where did she say this? in her unarchived karaoke?
They're gonna phase out the low performing members of "EN" and "ID" aren't they?
>>114680311She is protesting against Cover's decision. She and her friends built HoloJP up with their blood, sweat and tears. She does NOT condone letting EN and ID failures leech off their efforts while removing "JP" from the brand she worked so hard for
they are mad becausehttps://x.com/pipkinpippa/status/2097126707518140511they are useless schizos without any recognition now
>>114677559>None of this is a "win" for PhaseNothing ever willBased armchair
>>114680311i have yet to hear a good explanation for this
>>114680404No hololive member has ever called themselves "JP."
>>114680361It's because they are missing a piece. They need a member that can be the glue for the group. And that's where kiara is good at.
>>114680432>And that's where kiara is good atas long as you pander to her need for attention, of course
>>114680376everyone knew he was a doctor because he's so fucking annoying about it and made it 100% of his personality, it was the only thing about him people took as fact. No one seriously doubted him they just wanted to cuckposts with him.
>>114680353It’s not only about the merger it’s clearly about how poorly skyline serenade it was legitimately the first concert that lost money
https://x.com/rinkouashelia/status/2097147979627139202Oof
>>114680425She is going to have her own branch like Stella stella, called Yubi Yubi
>>114680400Yes, she also cried a lot on the stream. That's why people are on Kiara's side, her reaction to all of this was the most impactful for everyone.
>>114680311Studio Doog soon
irys sololive still not sold out btw, they even chose easy mode by having in japan and people wonder why EN got merged
What if Kiara really was the problem?What if it was her consistent whining that made MYTH and in extension, EN toxic? Also isn't it curious that Justice not being a hit, and it partly being the "Euro gen" didn't help her case.
>>114680462Okabe Rintaro really mindbroke these whores lmao
>>114680462sheesh, phasfags being called out
>>114677559ACTUAL TRVKE, phasecucks coping in the replies there and /here/.phase, niji, and indies are terminally afflicted with small dog syndrome towards the big dog: Hololive
>>114680376I just think anons were too obsessed by it. Even if he was larping, does that matter? We don't see the same level of attention on any other male who claimed to be software engineer or financial consultant or various other jobs that makes as much, if not more than a fresh-out-of-residency doctor
>>114679734Rather than continuously vagueposting, why couldn't she just say fuck it and spill the beans?Not like she got anything to lose. Or is she prioritizing her job security despite the vagueposting?
>>114680473holobuta behavior
>>114680482Justice failed Europe not the other way around>Raora streams in SEA hours>ERB streams for SEA>CC doesn't streamGigi is the most EU friendly streamer in Justice and she is not even European
>>114679734>people won't get it until It's too late>it's just over and sometimes things don't change for the betterI don't want to make it a Holo vs Holo, but this truly is a Kiara vs other ENs
>>114680520don't post kiara here
>>114680482I mean all year mori has been trying to make monthly myth collabs a thing but with no success likely because kiara didn't want to do them
>>114680473Unsurprisingly, the JP stock of tickets for her is sold out
>SEA hours>obsession about Europe
>>114680517Perhaps because she doesn't want to be fired on the spot.
>>114680353it feels like they're just trying to obfuscate things as much as possible to confuse the casuals just like they've tried with holopro EN shit and T3mpus before, trick them into thinking some shitty merged event here and there proves there was no downsizing and everything is all fine and dandy because they're doing something, it's not nearly as good as what we had just last year but give them time bro year is not over yet!
>>114680342KEK Nimi mogged
>>114678475It was at least 5x bigger than phasecon(2k venue which didn't sell out and had empty seats)
>>114680473JP side sold out within an hour and remained S/O. They need to open ticket sales for JP again soon instead of keeping them region locked(Yes, I know you can use VPN to go around it, but this is nips we are talking about)
>>114680542Posts like this are why EU is considered the SEA of the west
>>114680462phasediscordshitposter no morethey are just discordshitposter nowkek
>>114680549>Have it in Japan>JP stock sold outCurious phenomenon
>>114679895It's not just that, NONE of the EN talents who live outside of Japan made any sort of real comment regarding the merger. Well aside from Kiara lolLike Kronii instead of giving any sort of comment decided to use the chance to make fun of management instead lmaoIf Kiara kept her beak shut people would still be concerned because the only people commenting on the merger are the ones also the least impacted by the changes.
>>114680462
Damn it's a bloodbath
>>114680432Ligger Anon, just give up. Just fucking give up already.
>>114680342>giga botted nijiJP and indie slop still losing to Hololive(English)same as it ever wasTOTAL HOLO DOMINATION
>>114680460And the graduations, everyone can feel the stagnation and lack of momentum, but this feels like instead of trying to regain the initiative hololive is retreating and focusing on milking the Japanese audience more
>>114680563She wants to still have credibility for merch collabs to happen. She can't do a Doki if she can't prove the abuse.
>>114680517What beans are there to spill when she is talking based on what she *feels* too? It's not like Cover told them "Hey, we are going to give EN and ID less opportunity, enjoy"
>>114680620So you're saying Kiara is lying? You don't trust a holo?
>>114680494qrd?
>>114680473It will sell out. They are selling them in waves and certain waves are region locked.
>mfw cover decides to merge en and id into main branch because they cannot post back to back downsizing announcements Homos were indeed the canary in coal mine
>>114680546they had enough collabs
>>114680588I didn't add unsurprisingly for no reason
>>114680599Phase twittards have eaten L after L lately It's too late to course correct their fanbase though, they're stuck wallowing the shit they made
Wait, Korone is fucking leaving Hololive? What the fuck?
>>114680563wouldn't that only help her career imagine the drama buff she would get from getting fired just for standing up for herself and speaking her mind
>>114680462virtue signaling
>>114680641I trust Biboo, Kiara is a retarded overmedicated bitch.
>>114680641No, I'm saying that she is just having woman moment and crashing down based on emotions and paranoia, and not any established facts. She isn't going to spill any bean because what she vented was all what she had
We're going to have to put up with this for a while because holoantis have literally 0 content
>>114680599link? I wanna see the rest of it
https://x.com/RenZott0/status/2097160797982167156QRD? Does he know Holos?
>>114680517what more can she say about this? It's not looking good we all know it. Seem to have some other problem going for the last few months, no idea what's that about and it's hard to guess.
>>114680599They are disowning the phaseshitposterholoantis kek
If Cover took it to a vote and asked all the girls to vote, would majority be in favor of the merge? I would think the JPs would not want to share their resources and vote no
>>114680692It only happens in the initial stage, but so long as no one acknowledges it, it's going to hurt in the long run.
>>114680616Jesus christ I’ve known people who grieved in less time for the loss of their parents than Kiara and you beggars. People have moved on already, the people who graduated have moved on already.
>>114680734he's personal friends with erb and raora
>>114677959...now how many of those games ended up good?
>>114680734he used to know moom or rather moom knew his ex-wife he cheated on with niji whores.
>>114680734He did a song with Lui
>>114680660Is that why homos were entirely left out of the restructuring so they can die their dog's death away from the garden? lol
>>114680546Saying she wants to do a collab and actually making plans for it are different. If she cared for myth collabs as much as she cares about inviting random Indies she'd have done several by now
>>114680482EN couldn't even get a final collab going for the branch when HoloID couldThere's just zero branch unity
>>114680743KekyPOW!
>>114680786Likely because of Kiara's whining.
>>114680759The fuck are you even talking about retard
>>114680774She probably got tired of Mori and Ina telling her they weren't available for collabs.
>>114680462phasefags are the unironically the biggest phase antis on the internet. They make everyone want to hate Phase.
>>114680719Korone's upcoming graduation will give me plenty.Feel free to explain why she scrubbed all mention of Cover or Hololive from BOTH her Twitter and YT profiles if you think it was nothingburger
https://x.com/raorapanthera/status/2097171721250062579These Japanese introductions are going to continue to feel like a humiliation ritual for EN until a JP member does one in English.
>>114680819Mori and Ina aren't the problem. It's her because she refuses to stream at any time other than EU hours, when nobody else is awake and no one is there to watch
https://youtu.be/DL_Aj8xBSPQit's up
>>114680641Lying implies she knows otherwise. Kiara is stupid, not malicious, and few things she thinks have ever been rooted in reality.
>>114680828>until
>>114680616Considering that's what they said they were gonna do in the report.. yeah
>>114680702Tbh, you dont even have to take Biboo's word over hers. I just dont know why any actual fan would listen to Kiara at this point. Prioritizing her indie flesh shit to directly compete with a Holo event, only whining about gura/ame/fauna, unironically threatening graduation constantly. Like if you wanna go just go.
>>114680828Who isn't going to do one of these? I think CC and GG won't. Shiori too.
>>114680462Lia is very idol-coded she isn't really part of the Phase shitpost brigade. That's Panko, Jelly, and sometimes Mari/Lumi/Pippa.
If Kiara hadn't complained, Cover would have stayed quiet and wouldn't have sent Biboo and Fubuki to explain in more detail what the hell was going on.
>>114678731I can wait to see more drama
>>114680828this shit is so stupid people aren't just going to watch now that they are merged, its the same retarded logic people have when they say holostars just need exposure but no everyone that follows hololive knows who EN are they just won't watch because they aren't interested
>>114680833>separate channelHave they learned fucking nothing from DEV_IS
>>114680734jurard move from nijisanji
>>114680867What did Biboo say?
>>114680828Why the fuck are they doing this? Nothing is supposed to change. What are you girls doing?
>>114680879trying to pump up total sub numbers for the report, probably, since they always report those
>>114680734I remember when this faggot said Hi to Mumei and the hoomans went nuclear over it
/baubau/ is more about Kiara than anything else right now.
>>114680311>>114680425>>114680404She addressed it in her mengen.Basically management wanted to update everyone social media handles and description all at once and they gave everyone a form to tell them what they want the handles and description to be changed into.The only restrictions are they can't use branch names because that's what management is trying to phase out.So they either could add hololive or none at all, but not branch names.
>>114680924Thanks for telling us that you're spamming /baubau/; I will not read those posts
>>114680913inb4 Cover mandated 1st army to the rescue again
>>114680734He's had sex with both Lui and ERB
Libera me from hell 1M 0907 1424 JST1 Day 2 Hours 24 Minutes1 hr and 20 min until the first 24 hrs after 1M, current : 1,544,431So it both gains over 500K at the second 24 hrs and the first 24hrs after 1M
>>114680904Remember when all Niji EN spontaneously posted about how they love Nijisanji? Including Selen, Pomu and Ike who were miserable at the time? Makes you think.
>>114680927>they can't use branch names because that's what management is trying to phase outMan...
>>114680894Hololive fans shouldn't listen to the members who are complaining.
I am excited for the merge because it'll get rid of retarded justchads especially dumb ass grems who think racism is okay as long as it's attacking those whacky Japanese again.
>>114680407pippa had to call out the phasefags? grim even their own handlers want nothing to do with their need for drama
>>114680894Nothing really, just that nothing will be changing with her and Advent. Said to not bother other girls either and to watch the stream for info.
>>114680922You think Mumei ever let him hit?He was awfully eager to cheat
I really wonder what the beggar/dramafag narrative about Rushia actually is. I see indiefags treating her like Myra Hindley or Karla Homolka. And what do they think happened to Mel?
>Dumb drama over merger from the usual drama whoresCool, I'm going to continue to watch IRyS and I'm going to be super happy when she gets her updated outfit for the sololive like Sora just got.
>>114680927I don't see why leaving out Hololive would even be an option or make sense?
>>114680927>they either could add hololive or none at all>talents have to fill up a formHoly shit I see why things in Hololive are so inefficient now
>>114680948Actually, I'm there for the cuckposting, I don't give a shit about Kiara.
I hope things just get worse for everyone so it all ends and I can be free. Everything ends eventually anyway.
REMINDER THAT JUSTICE STILL DONT HAVE CASUAL OUTFITS LMAO
>>114680828BIG CAT...naruhodo...
Why is /VT/ run by Ruffians, Pebbles, and IRyStocrats? Why is Tower run but Kfp, Deadbeats, and Novelites? Why would certain EN fanbases be attracted to one site over the other?
>>114680773What else do you think?Pretty sure them sheets for en and id were looking bleak and some investors might have pointed out the obvious bias of cover killing the homo but not en and id.They know it's less worse optics to merge than to downsize en and id
>>114680985He was in Australia with his fiancee at that time.
>>114680998kek based
>>114680969mind you that’s a chumbud teammate and sappling
>>114680997it's an optional form, korone submitted it because she thought an update to her description would be nice. but holos like Kronii didn't bother and management defaulted into changing HoloEN to hololive for her handle and description.
>>114681039Tower is run by the fans that used to use /hlgg/. Girls who /hlgg/ hated aren't going to migrate...
>>114680904No one buys the lie, and this is just driving people away and convincing them otherwise kek
>>114680774>If she cared for myth collabs as much as she cares about inviting random Indies she'd have done several by nowI mean they have, idk what your point here is beyond being a retard that thinks everyone else can't do thing two thinks about
>>114680904Because Kiara was right and nobody will say anything until it's too late.
>>114681039Because some generals had worse spammers or 2-3 prolific posters personal preferences made the difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RBOwE51yUM>justice waking up today
>>114681062Of course. It's always the people who still have oshi marks for those 3 (and Mumei) who start dumb drama. Just like Kiara they can't move on.
>>114680996management doesn't care as long as you don't put in branch names
>>114681039/vt/ is run by the discord troll mafia. they target whomever is popular and whichever fanbase is largest. they drove all the kfp/deadbeats away.
>>114681042>Pretty sureSo no proof, got it.
>>114678948>playing Holo's next fotm game alreadyA trendsetter as always
>>114681104shut the fuck up moom you retarded autistic grifter
>>114680996NTA and I don't have her member access to know what she said exactly, but that sounds like it was an oversight. Cover probably just told the girls "Don't use branch name" while thinking about EN and ID without realizing that if any JP girl leaves their branch name out, they won't have any "Hololive" at all.
>>114681039my nigga deadbeats are also here, who do you think were defending Mori every time there's a yab>Novelitesthey fled there following the events of the BRICK>KFPTower has always been KFP territory actually now that you think about it, /vt/ is also KFP territory with how much we talk about Kiara every single day
>>114681039/vt/ is run by all the people who love or hate Kiara.
>>114681107The general consensus in Napcord is Nimi probably didn't outright know but had a feeling and they're glad she got a head start.
>>114681123To be fair, Kiara and Mori don't make things easy for their fans.
>>114680990Will you be super happy when she will become the first Holo to fail to sell out a solo live since 2024?
>>114681150This dumb nigger thinks towa was something running parallel to /vt/ and not the fucking hot swap post-'ack and everyone fucking hating 4chan
>>114681055iirc there's a link that goes with this?
Kiara has no one, which is why removing EN hurts more to her than to any other member.The blame should be on MYTH because they were fucking complacent.That's what people who accept the Merger as a big change but are rational would say.
>>114681142Did even a single JP have Hololive_JP in their twitter? Seems like only devis should have changed anything.
shiori is the only advent being suspiciously quiet today
>>114680996Tbf Mori, Ina and Nerissa also don't have "Hololive" in their display names
https://x.com/KokoRoachie/status/2097056803720724525GOOGLE DOCKEY AGAINST COVER CORP LMAOOOO
beefy clip number
>>114681189>he doesn't know
>>114680833>merge branches>hey lets make a seperate channel and twitter for this unitwhat are they thinking?
>>114680969>>114681107>it's justchads>no it's actually autofisterchads>no it's grems>no it's kfp>no it's councilcord>no it's graduated fanbasesYou guys love blaming every fanbase for random twitter opinions that get posted here instead of just accepting that there are a lot of dumb people on twitter.>>114681062This one is a grem. Or will you call him a jailbird or rosarian?
>>114681215What
>>1146812225d chess
>>114681192She had years to come up with a plan to move to Japan
>>114681215>>114681241oh wrong image
>>114681222They know they can just have first army save them again
>>114681039novelites weren't even the top 5 fanbases in the tower poll
>>114680996TALENT FREEDOM ALENTFREEDOM
>>114681230Are you sure this isn't a woman
>>114681222>what are they thinking?The aren't
>>114680828>B-but they a-are not forced to cater to the JP bros!
>>114681265Honestly it's probably a women but it doesn't say anywhere so I default to heOh they're EU too if you guys want another boogeyman
>>114681230Looks like an ADOtomo to me
I think EN was an experiment to reach a global market, testing the waters of how well it would do. They struck it massive with Gura, got high off the success and tried to replicate that same success to no avail and shareholders probably came to the conclusion it’s wasted resources trying to get a Gura 2.0 especially considering they fuck their funds trying to make Holo earth a thing
>>114681192Kiara screwed over Kiara. Ina and Mori are willing to collab with the other EN members fine.
>>114681192>The blame should be on MYTH because they were fucking complacent.Mori is happyIna isn't complainingHow is this anyone in Myth's fault other than the one who insisted for 6 years that the future of Hololive was not Japan, not North America, not Korea, not Taiwan, not Hong Kong, but the laughable EU which nobody has ever seen any money or viewership come out of? Kiara needed to accept sunk costs and cut off her racism against non-EU viewers years ago
>>114681296Okay I think you're actually right
Hinata is feeling better now, all is right in the worldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpJjHATKW1E
>>114681230>it's grem again
French Kronie vs Selenfag got moved to Twitter that's why you don't see a lot of spam and deleted threads around here
>>114680734ERB & Lui
>>114681312kiara really fucked up because when advent debuted instead of trying to bond with them she instead got closer to ame and gura who had both already reduced their streaming activities, she tried doing something with justice but it was already too late
>>114681039>Why is /VT/ run by Ruffians, Pebbles, and IRyStocrats? Why is Tower run but Kfp, Deadbeats, and Novelites? Why would certain EN fanbases be attracted to one site over the other?I always wondered why towa allowed /hlg/ to exists when they are so anti en and id. Now I know why. These fags have cover staff
>>114681230Gura, Fauna, and Ame are right there in their bio. You tell me.
>>114680644He was arguing with some Pippa fan but I can't find the tweethttps://x.com/Okabe_Rintar0IF/with_replies
>>114680828This is the closest you're gonna get
>>114681352There's 6 oshi marks there
>>114681125Yeah the merger is happening because happy times ahead sure anon. It's totally not because en and id are financially in the dumps and they can totally support the branches by themselves oh wait they merged lmao
>>114681230IT'S A BLOODRAVENFAG. THAT'S NOT A JAILBIRD
>>114681244She doesn't want to move back to Japan. She has already moved away and going back on her decision would've made it looked like a mistake
>The girl who made a regional channel is crashing out the most about HoloENThe irony
>>114681039wdym novelites lol/hlgg/ is dominated by mythfags/pebbles/grems
He's right, we need to fight for Kiara now and make it known to Cover that we won't tolerate them unilaterally merging the branches without even consulting the talents
>>114681385>en and id are financially in the dumpsProof?
>>114681230looks like a retard who doesn't watch streams
>>114681393Yea it's not a Jailbird it's a grem can't you read (kamioshi)?
>>114681300I wonder what cover thought when she suddenly just stopped streaming? First it was a few weeks then it turned to months and after that EN just slowly bled out viewers kek
>>114681397Women, amaright?
>>114681412that's old
>>114681300Don’t know why people haven’t shitted on HoloEarth more since it was the catalyst for the management restructuring and layoffs to what’s happened to Cover.
>>114681415>Mintbeggar>MexicanJesu Christ
>>114681450Then post the new one
>>114681385Its not an either or, most girls are ambivalent. Implying EN is not making money is also pretty insane. Theres like two dozens JP's that straight up barely stream and barely get financially supported.
Reine seems pretty pissed
>>114681415>Wewe hate kiara here
>>114681385>>114681469FWMC are still top 10 in SCs on Hololive overall by the way
>>114681230>>114681315The Myth who remain sans Kiara aren't the problem.
We're all gonna learn japanese for nu-hololive btw
>>114681385>Financially in the dumps>Just launced a mega successful gacha game>Announced an entire Hololive anime>Are doing complete redesigns for every talent with much higher 3D tracking and animation>Are launching a new streaming app which lets fans interact with the stream more and gives the talents options that revolutionize vtubing>Doubled down on their mission to become a worldwide brandYeah, you are an idiot. The rebranding was what they believe to be the best way to become a worldwide brand. It wasn't done out of desperation due to bad financials.
>>114677763this guy barely understands english or japanese
>>114681469It’s homobeggars dragging EN and ID down to their level to make themselves feel better
>>114681350>kiara really fucked up because when advent debuted instead of trying to bond with themI mean she did, it was just all superficial as fuck and didn't stickShe made a big song and dance about reviving HoloTalk for the purpose of being of being to collab with all 5 Advent members at once so should she could say she was their senpai-collab She had her ship with Nerissa too but there was zero actual substance there beyond Nerissa being a Kiara fan pre-debut, and she blew her load too quickly by immediately inviting her to the Maldives instead of slow burning their relationship like Gremreaper or Pizzatime did for example
>>114681478Uhhh sure
Kiara's mistake is not reassuring fans in a confusing time. This is the most important moment to tell them it's all going to be okay and we'll make it through the confusion togetherInstead, she decided to stoke the flames and did exactly what Fauna did when she graduated. Make it sound like the worst possible scenario and put all the blame on management and the girls who are happy
can't wait for kfp to beat the shit out of pebbles
>>114681341Based Helmir shitting on grems
>>114681530You want her to lie to the fans and say it's going to be alright when she knows they're about to be sidelined and their resources given to a less deserving holoJP?
>please don't shit on other members>shits on KiaraErnoul is a hypocrite
ID getting merged into one Hololive means, they'll finally get their Nendoroids.... right?
>>114681523>
The western Hololive fanbase is fucking mental and I'm sick of it which sucks because my oshi is former EN (IRyS). This crash out over the merger isn't an isolated incident. The western fanbase does this with every single fucking announcement. It's just constant negativity and doomposting. How the fuck did the fanbase get like this? Dare I say they have become worse than Nijisisters.
Am I crazy to think that they merge is so they don't need to assign a fixed budget to the branches anymore, making it easier to control what the money is used for? Also, now they don't need to disclose each branch in the financial report (hiding how bad a branch is other against another)?
>>114681551It wouldn't be a lie. What she is doing now is lying, saying things will get worse when everyone knows that's not the case
>>114681530Ok but like what if it's all not going to be ok? Kiara is allowed to feel like it's not a positive change
>>114681518I mean, Gremreaper ultimately failed because it took too long to actually DO something of notice.Kiarissa suffered the fate of all Oshi-Fan ships, the power balance creeps people out, and it will happen to Timesmith too if it hasn't happened by now.
>>114680989>Cover fired her because she's married
>>114680833>it's just NePoLaBo pretending to be new members
>>114681551That’s already been happening before the merger genius. The merger was a rebranding and restructuring of management.
>>114681586are you saying outsiders like us knows better what's actually happening behind the scenes in hololive?
who's laura?
>>114681422Proof is the merger
as loud as she is Gigi is very meek and non-confrontational, why did her fanbase turn out like this?
>>114681579t. Helmirmeanwhile Fubuki is spamming damage control tweets, you know things are bad if she's doing that
LOOOOOLLL! This Nigas is crazy!
>>114681585They never fucking revealed the numbers of other branches, at most they did "Overseas" which could mean HoloEN sales HoloID sales or even western HoloJP sales, it's also why we never got to see the numbers of the Homos
>>114681627I trust the many more girls who are happy over one girl who has a very poor track record and has been willing to lie in the past
>>114681478She pissed in my mouth
>>114681632That isn't proof
>>114681637quick, post the one with a randon edit
>>114681595>I mean, Gremreaper ultimately failedGrenreaper didn't fail at all because they still do stuff together to this very day Kiarissa on the other hand is effectively dead for close to like 3 years at this point
>>114681585There are practical reasons for why they would want to merge the branches. The problem is that Cover management needs to actually nut up thought and make sure EN/ID still get the attention they deserve when they're now just a smaller part of a greater wholeLike yes, not having to assign a fixed budget is nice, but then that also means the main branch management needs to dole out the money for things like EN Reco or other projects, and Cover has not done enough to instill confidence that they will be competent at that
