Why are phase livers defending Hololive now? Is there really an alliance behind the scenes?
>livers
>>114680662>Livers
>pancreases
>>114680662More like their fanbase is being brown and they're trying to not catch heat themselves.
Phase if full of dumb cunts that engagement baitThat is all this is
>>114680662it's like that one faggot who got banned in r/okbh/; the shitposting that got too off-the-nose that he was told to shut the fuck up because it's making them look bad. don't get me wrong, they're still celebrating HoloEN/ID's fate, they just wanna be discreet about it.
>nijisanji fans
>>114680662>Anyone giving her the time of day after she bent the knee to unicorn chuds
>>114680662Sad attempt sister
The list of people that hate Phase is so long that its getting kind of funny when you guys try and guess who it is making the post.Its always the>troons/browns/indians/seafag/phil/softendo/nijifags/holofags/libtards/chuds/clarafag/anyafagAnd whoever i missed
>gateway chuuba was PhaserI like Ina too :)
>>114680662Who is her oshi?
>>114681660kiara of course
>>114681660Depends on what holo is trending that week.
>>114680662>phasetards pretending they're relevantSo cringe and embarrassing
Pipkin "throw watame under the bus to make a shitty point about merch shipping, while claiming Watame is her Oshi?" PippaIts a mouthful but its good to address her properly.
>>114681783Fucking kek
>>114681660>>114681773>>114681783It's fucking Watame. How do you people not know this?
>>114681881I am basically a Phase anti at this point and i new it lmao
Pippa gonna send assassins to this nigga's house!
>>114681924Jelly front and center tells me everything i need to know about this retardAlso he is pretending Saba is coming back lmao
>>114680662They have enought foresight to know that their dumbest fans will attack Hololive to dramakek and enough wisdom to know their best PR move is to distance from that hard and fast.
>>114681620Always leaving out Hololive and numberfags. With how you have behaved in the last day it couldnt be more obvious that you arent above anyone. Just acting like assholes like everyone else. That is why numbers is falling apart with their loss of identity. I have said it before but those fools do not watch streams and now it has got to this point where even Cover management knows their best efforts are put into the JP audience. Holofans should at least be a little bit Embarrassed by this.
>>114681924... Burnt Peanut???Also isn't that the guy with an incel channel that uses a femcel PNG? Tomoko something was the name of the anime.
>>114681881You fucking retard, Pippa claims to be a watamate, but whenever a holo graduates she will claim it was her oshi all along
>>114681991No, it seems I confused him with someone else. But the name feels so familiar somehow...
>>114681974Their dumbest fans all migrated to Jelly and started hating Pippa, so it won't do much in that regard.>>114681986I have never even looked inside numbers, and i haven't posted in holo you schizo lmaoI post in PCG to anti Jelly and her starcunts
>>114681924>SoiyaPoya Dottovu Ham...this negro gonna get CC Kronii and GG scolded!
>>114680662They attracted insufferable autists and once those autists run out of targets they'll turn on phase members
>>114680662Pippa likes to act tough and talk loud but the moment she gets a little pushback for playing a racing game, she folds instantly. Biggest cower in Phase.
>>114680662>nijishitters stirring the potevery time
>>114682030You are functionally retarded. Aqua was part of Hololive before Watame. Obviously when Watame joined she changed oshis. The odds of you keeping the first vtuber you ever liked as your oshi is next to nil. Stop being stupid.
>>114682075They already do that lmaoJelly's starcucks pretend they werent part of the group harrasing Clara until she left. Now they are pissed at Eimi because she's a tumblr girl who did tumblr girl things while streaming a tumblr ass game. Pippa already had an exodus of fans that thinks she has "gone woke".
>>114680662Why would a 3view company purposefully stir the pot between themselves and the Disney of vtubing ? Think critically dayo
>>114680662Fucking nijisisters shitting up the whole board as always
>>114681881you are autistic
>>114682328Ah yes, remembering things, the trait of an autistic person.
>>114682418not understanding an obvious joke, yes
>>114682052Well, at least it gives those two plausible deniability and shifting the responsibility on Jelly if she doesn't disavow the shitflinging.
>>114680662phasecuck acting holofags will suddenly stop hololive talent because the merger and screaming we are winningimagine shitposting so bad your talent need to call it out
>>114682550The fuck did he say?
HoloENkeks should have been better fans then maybe their branch wouldn't have been made defunct
>>114682447Jokes have to be funny dipshit.
>>114682693I feel like this post would have said "HoloENCucks" if Phase didnt have...>2 (lumi and pippa's) fanbases meltdown about seperate male collabs>Shiina referencing a past boyfriend yab with an entire stream>Panko's boyfriend accidentally trying to talk to that talent in VC while she was live. All within like 3 weeks?
>>114682742you watch pippa so clearly that isn't true
>>114680662Maybe they look more like the bubble finally popping, like a pretty heavy sign of it and the girls over there are panicking.
>>114682802Holonigs are the last people to go throwing around the cuck work kek
>>114680662Looks more like they just want to cut themselves from the toxic part of their fandom.That's way smarter move if you hope to grow from this entire situation.
>>114683192I am not a holo fan, i am a phase anti, only decent holos are jp and i dont speak jp.KEK(i know who you are)
>>114680708>>114680728>>114680839>dyers
>>114680662Livers kek. But who cares about the opinions of wontons? Seriously, she is the fucking last person who should have a say in anything. Then again Inazuma speeds pocket pussy doesn’t get have an opinion either
>>114683635>wontonsKek why bring up shiina?
>>114683663She made comments about phase fans commenting on hololive
>>114681881Doesn't stop her from throwing her oshi under the bus when it's convenient for her.
>>114681881ChudConnect as always is out of control
>>114680662Because this schizophrenic war only exists on this board anon
>>114682030But enough about nerissa, unsubbed from that leech after that
>>114681660artia
>>114683244We are living in a world Phase has outlasted HoloEN. How do you feel?
>>114684868
>>114682052>Their dumbest fans all migrated to JellyWhich doesn't mean much consider Jelly is also Phase member.
>>114684868Fine, because Phase is crumbling internally, and Jelly will be gone soon enough. To paraphrase her friend 'It's not good for her to be in Phase'. The culture war she panders to and the Wish clique she is a part of will unironically be the end of this company. They have fostered such an unhealthy environment among the fans, Jelly is blacklisted from sponsors, and few of her co-workers outside of Wish want to collab with her.Phase existing as a diseased mutt while hololive makes a minor questionable decision does not mean they have 'outlived' anything. >>114686038It means plenty.Jelly is the cesspit that fans of other talents wind up at as they throw tantrums and find a new "based" oshi. She accumulates the worst of the worst, and there is no next step for them within Phase, just like with Jelly.She will be doing collabs with griftpigs like Kirsche soon enough once she can't take it anymore and leaves. It will be a good day for Phase, and it's first step to recovery.
>>114681957At the end of the day, it's always election tourists.
>>114686778Lmao?Go be a polnig somewhere else faggot
>>114686736You type a fucking whole dissertation but fail to understand what grifting is, 1/10 marks topkek
>>114686827I wouldn't expect a /smug/ poster to understand what a grift is, lmaoImagine defending Kirsche, or believing she genuinely believes what she spews
>Phase connect streamers who aren't even streaming and still make every drama about them.
>>114680662To be fair, this is the kind of thing they should've been doing since the startIf only their "fans" actually listened
>>114686736Holy retard seethe. That ax wound must be sore.
>>114687391What did I say that was incorrect?>Jelly is going to be gone soonShe would actually do better as an indie at this point if she was able to fully chud out, she isn't blind enough to not see this. Idk what to tell you if you honestly think she will renew her contract when its up.>wish clique causes issuesTheir album+concert proved that, pissed off older talents>fanbase issuesVisibile in every pcg and the phase discord, starknights have a stigma, it isn't good and has got worse. Pippa fans used to be the issue, now it's starknights.>blacklisted from sponsorsJelly confirmed this herself>lack of collabsSelf evident, she wasnt big on them in general, but not even joining company mates for the summer shit when times lined up is pretty telling>shitty fans winding up at JellyHappened with Pippa's fans when she went "woke", recently i have seen Shiina fans moving to Jelly after the wonton stream, and panko is chuddy enough that any fans she pissed off with "tinaaa" are probably going to move to Jelly as well
>>114686736>once she can't take it anymore and leaves. It will be a good day for PhaseBut until that day happens it means nothing. She's still part of Phase and her shit and her fanbase will continue to affect rest of Phase.
>>114682802What's this about Panko?
>>114680662>I don't claim the people ragebaiting about other companiesThat's the fanbase you knowingly built for yourself and the entire company, Pippa, you don't suddenly get to "not claim them" when it becomes inconvenient. Have some fucking accountability.
>>114687949She was on stream, and mans voice called her irl nickname twice, she panicked a lot and tried to play it off. General consensus is she was in vc someone who was afk, she forgot, went live, they came back and tried to talk to her.
>>114680662Neutrality is better then being Nijisanji.
>>114680662chiming in on the latest drama for a crumb of relevance like all the other insignificunts
>>114680662>phase fans act like animals>talents call it what it isgood for them
>>114680662> livers
>>114686736>the racist #3 girl in the #3 gen is gonna be the end of the companyget a grip nerdPhase existed for years before Jelly and will exist after her. She is not a principal player or a part of the companies identity. They will take a temporary hit with drama but life will go on
>>114688640I keep being told by starknights that she is a central pillar of Phase lmao
>>114688714well shes notshe’s not someone they build around and focus around
>>114681881If the only way you can understand what your oshi is saying is through subtitles and clips then that's not your oshi.
>>114687506>She would actually do better as an indie at this point if she was able to fully chud outdoes she wants to tho?, it's lika that thing, "never go full retard", but for chuds
>>114688058lmao boyfriend connect
>>114688714they should get a grip, even fucking Lia or Iori is more central than Jelly
>>114688988>LiaYes>IoriNoI would suggest Jelly is probably 10th or so she is still quite important
>>114688988>IoriOriginiggers are completely delusional
>>114682052I also anti Jelly and her retarded fans. I’m with you, brother.
>>114687506the worst of those 3 fanbases moving to Jelly is the best thing that could happen to the girls. When are the contracts up?
>>114688988>>114688714i'd say>the founding 4 pillars the company has always been figurativly built around in various wayspippa, tenma, lia, uruka>people who make positive contributions, are a part of the brand and who would be missed sorely if they were to leavelumi, shiina, hime, dizzythen there is that next cluster of mari, clio, jelly, panko, nitty, just depends how you ranks their importance to phasei personally would rank it nitty, panko, mari, jelly, clio
>>114680662>REEEE WHY DO PHASE GIRLS ALWAYS ENCOURAGE BAD FAN BEHAVIOR>they speak out and tell them to knock it off because they are annoyed by antics>LMAO ENGAGEMENT BAIT DUMB WHORESfickel
i hope dizzy and ember quit when jelly leaves.maybe phase connect will start to feel like phase connect again. the company began to lose its soul exactly when those 3 debuted.
>>114689413does anyone knows how many projects Jelly been part of, i know the big one was one step march
>>114689688>Encourage bad behavior 99% of the time >Remaining 1% is just a weak slap on the wrist and only done because their retarded fans are poking the Hololive bear
>>114689783>emberthe fuck ember did?>dizzydid she ever said why she had that nuclear meltdown, shere she talk about self harm and suicide
>>114689785Eimi and Runie did one step march.I think you are thinking of the 2023 anniversary song which was Jelly and Hime.Probably the last "big" thing she was involved with was the Wish project, but is that a Phase thing or a Wish thing?That being said, Jelly is still involved and doing her share of company work. Always present for events. She does company work for conventions a lot of the girls hate doing that stuff. She has never been a big collaber, so people trying to pit dissension are full of it. She is well liked by many in Phase.
>>114689840she didn't do anything, she just doesn't fit in.ember and dizzy are tsunderia girls. they are not phase connect girls.they are like muslims who move to england and say they are british. no you are muslim.
>>114689840Dizzy was probably being menhera over the Nyana situation.
>>114689975why would she care? nyana doesnt even know dizzy
>>114688988>Iorisenpaichama... you need to leave the chair...
I dont want Jelly to leave, but if she does I will be anxiously waiting to see if the rest of Wish puts their money where their mouth is.Dizzy said>we are by far the closest gen in Phase Connect (wild claim). We are all together forever if one leaves then we all leaveLets see it put up or shut up.
>>114690195they arent going anywherelumi has a great spot in phase and is doing things that only corpo can provide her. she isn't quitting her job because the girl who works on her floor is unhappy and wants to find a new one
>>114680662Lia usually doesnt partake in drama/industry issues and just stays in her own gay lane, so it takes a lot for her to speak out on it.Last time she did something like this is when she exploded at the company fanbase for poach begging Mint when Mint was her guest at a Phase NYC concert.
>>114690195>we are by far the closest gen in Phase Connect (wild claim)>(wild claim)How? What other gen is closer knit?
>>114680662Phase Connect mentioned in post? Guaranteed replies.And people pretend they don't care about Phase.
>>114690351how are Wish, who have only been together for a year, any closer than any gen who have spent 4-5-6 years together and have traveled the world together?Having to out loud tell people your unit is the closest ever is an odd thing to say. Like you are trying to convince yourself. I don't trust anybody who ever says that. It's like saying "we are like a family ;)"
>>114689166Get a room faggots
>>114690351how would dizzy even know how close other gens are? she is not included in their meetings, dms, projects, trips etc newsflash to her: there are gens in phase that have been thru wars together and bonded by things dizzy cant dream of because she was slumming it up and hiring males in tsunderia
>>114689836>load up chat gpt >talk like a vtuber anti explain why this is actually bad >spits out something exactly like what you're saying your retarded posts could easily be replaced with AI
>>114690351wish's illustrious run as a unit>form in may 2025>use dizzy's political influence to push their gen project eventhough they dont have the tenure, subs, or numbers to get something like that over alias>piss off members of alias>do 1 (one) trip together>say their unit is better and closer than all the units>concert has meh turnout and the album did not sell like they thought>jelly gets embroiled in drama right after and brings stain to the unit>sponsors don't want to work with members of the unit>phase doesn't feel comfortable presenting jelly as one of their principal characters anymore>wish and their fans have become nothing but drama and trouble to the company
>>114681881They only watch dramafarmer clip channels. The shorts, specifically.
>>114690689I dunno how Lumi has a respectable enough image for the outside, she sounds like an evil whore to me.
>>114690461>Wish, who have only been together for a yearBased retard
>>114691476nah thats youthey are a thrown together unit of the first 2 invader gens
>>114690461>>114690689>Two posts both getting Wish's debut year completely wrongRetarded samefag getting all of his info from glancing at the vtuber wiki>>114691513Oh look, I was right
>>114681924You always use this faggot to justify anti-ing the ex-holos, Saba and anyone who doesn't take in your schizo anti shit, fuck off.
>>114681924he is acting way too smug for a fan of the retard fish
>>114691560>Oh look, I was rightwrongthey factually and literally formed in may 2025
>>114691136Lumi is fine.she would trade Wish in a second if she was to be officially named the 5th EN Origins member.
>>114691810They formed in 2023 and just changed their name you dipshit, you don't even watch the company you're arguing for
>>114691880you are a retard.Invaders Gen1 debuted in 2022Invaders Gen2 debuted in 2023they did not have a unit or unit name until 2025 when they merged and became Wish.This is a very strange thing to try and act matter of fact about when you are wrong and Invaders Wish did not become a thing until May 27, 2025.
>newfag has thought wish were some long tenured gen and just found out today they are a thrown together unit from last yeargod i hope this group dissolves once jelly leaves and lumi can go back to being a solo invader things were much better that way. as it is she sees the writing on the wall that the unit sucks and that is why she 2026 has been her solo arc
Phase beggars act like if there's no competition people will watch Phase instead of leaving the hobby.
>>114691954Invaders was merged as soon as Dizzy, Ember and Jelly joined the company, when they simply called themselves Phase Invaders. They then rebranded to Wish because they were no longer the only Invaders unit when Quest debuted. You are arguing semantics over the name of the unit and not the unit itself.
>>114681924Jelly dead in the middle, OFC it would be a fucking fagknight
>>114680662I TOLD YOU NIGGERS FROM THE BEGGINING!!!!ALL VTUBER/IDOL CORPORATIONS ARE TRYING TO ENSLAVE THE GOYIM USING THEIR WITCHES TO SEDUCE THEM!!!ITS A CONCERTED EFFORT!!!!I TOLD YOU!!!! ALL ASIANS ARE TRYING TO ENSLAVE AND BRAINWASH YOU THROUGH IDOL WITCHRAFT!!
>>114681503hey, we unicorns aren't all bad.benice
>>114692679facts are facts, sorry you can;'t deal with the facts.may 27 2025 is when invaders wish became an official unit.
>>114680662i have long suspected that for years when Pippa and Lia have gone to Japan together and they say they have had dinners with unnamed vtubers, it has been some hololive members that wish to remain nameless.good on them
>gallbladders
>>114680662en vtubing is a small circle, and people using pippa and lias company to try and shitpost another is poor form. i see no problem with them calling out those who are using their corpo as bait. that is the right thing to do.
the fact that they can make a statement and it actually carries a tiny bit of weight because their group is now in a position says a lot about the current landscape of english vtubing agencys
>>114682052get a job
>>114680662>livers
>>114686860which of kirsche's beliefs do you believe she doesn't believe? why?
>>114681783keklmao
>>114681924>
>>114699862This has to be a parody account.
>>114699893Nah, he just has an extremely low IQ because his family tree forms a circle.
>>114697047I am here to anti Jelly, not debate Kirsche, I've had enough of that in /SMUG/ in the past. I think she is willing to stretch her outrage at certain things beyond where they truly lie in an attempt to provide circlejerking affirmations to her fans. The fixation on going over crimes for example, i don't think she gives a shit, i think it provides a platform for her to do what i suggested she does. If you want to believe she is genuine, go ahead, I'll agree that she genuinely holds beliefs that I think make her a dogshit person and you think make her great.
so, how much until Jelly leaves phase?
>>114686736An actual reply. Well the problem is everything you said is based on feels. The Jelly yab doesnt even matter and your hyperfocus on just her is sad when you were shit posting in context of Phase itself. Stay mad
>>114704393Probably end of June next year.Going off Clara's debut and exit dates it seems fair to assumes annual contract with 1 month of leeway for deciding to sign again. Given Jelly's debut is in the month preceeding the con, i think we will see her leave within 2 weeks post con.>>114704670You asked what i thought, i told you what i thought, idk what else you want. Haven't looked at Kirsche in a while, just used her as an offhand example of a chuddy indie.Jelly on the other hand is demonstrably bad for Phase, regardless of her yab which was relatively minor as i agreed earlier. Her issue is her fanbase. Not sure why it's sad that i want to see what i view to be the main issue in Phase corrected.
>>114680662>liversAll these years later and Nijisisters still can't avoid outing themselves
>>114704670>The Jelly yab doesnt even matterIt could have become Phase's version of Selengate if Fishman hadn't nipped it in the bud.
>>114705071There is a difference between thoughts based on logic and ones on emotion. I will agree that Jelly is bad right now for Phase. Where once she pursued nerdy niche interests her chud pandering is brain dead tier entertainment. Instead of awawawa being endearing it is idiots sharing the same braincell who would feel stupid if a math problem showed up in their face. Nothing wrong with being based but larping as an idiot is boring. Still not the death of Phase and their existence is isolated to certain girls anyways and is an indicator of covering wider demographics. Still ends up being a you problem.
>>114699893It isn't
>>114705287No it wouldn’t have have. Jelly is not to Phase what Selen was to NijiEN. The thing that made Selengate had impact was the fact that Selen was one of the branches pillars who was treated that way, and Jelly is not that for Phase.Jelly is like Reimu.
>>114681924>>114691603>>114699862>>114682065Pippa has always been on good terms with himhttps://x.com/search?q=from%3Apipkinpippa%20to%3Athedarkenjoyer&src=typed_query
>>114712206It is hysterical that 9 months later Jellyfags try to act like her little thing mattered and insist it was some kind of scandal when it had no traction, no consequences and nobody cared.
>>114681912>new
before this thread dies, all i got from this is that; 1) Jelly should leave phase and take all the fagknights with her, 2) her fanbase hype her, but she means nothing to phase, beyond being friends with invaders
>>114713616>Jelly should leave phase and take all the fagknightsI think she should stay and I hope she stays, but her fanbase are a little annoying and I would guess are a reason why few want to collab with her>her fanbase hype her, but she means nothing to phase, beyond being friends with invadersI wouldn't say she means nothing to Phase, but her absence won't really be missed if she does leave (because she is not really involved with other girls. If you don't watch Invaders Wish, then you have no idea Jelly is in Phase)it would be very easy to tell the story of Phase's history without even mentioning her she has no big company moments or company firsts or company history to her name.
>>114713616If you got banned and had your posts removed this thread would get 40 post less. Anti Jelly fujo tranny
>why did the vtweeter known exclusively for vtweeting, vtweeting?
Maybe the conflict between these people is actually just in your head.
