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>>114681628former HoloID will finally get their Nendoroids. trust the plan haha
>phase is telling their viewers to stop shitting on Hololive I'm thinking Hololive won
This one
>>114681711it's a new era. I was telling you guys about the phase-hololive friendship sphere
>JP vs EN/ID fanbase war unfolding and will tear the company apart for goodgood job Cover, no better way to celebrate your 10th year lmao
this one is an earlier bake>>114681711it's like that one faggot that was banned on r/okbh/ the shitposting is making them look bad, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they will stop celebrating HoloEN and ID's downfall.
>>114681711Not really it feels like phase just doesn't want to punch down
Kiara is graduating soon
>>114681740I don't think that's going to happen
Oh no
autofister
Biboo won
who won?
>>114681759kek
Pippa is gonna kill this nigga! >>114681637
>>114681759she wont cause her other shit doesn't make any money
>>114681628>/v/
>>114681753it's been feeling like this for years now, honestly
>>114681786Great job CC I hope you get some rest. Don't work too hard in Japan
>>114681786Kiara really works hard, no wonder nobody can argue agains her.
>>114681230Next they'll say its a Homobeggar.
>>114681469>>114681495>>114681505Gacha - JP 13 million Others 4 millionAnime - JP only Redesign - JP first en and id maybe later if they are still aroundStreaming app - even homo got to use that shitIf someone told me in 2023 that holoen and holoid will get merged and downsized by cover for being shitter before nijien I would have called them brown and dumb.Cope as much as you want but for Cover en and id is shit for their Koffers and we are no longer getting>New en gen id gen>No more enreco like projects >No more en concerts >No more branch projects like the id anniversary one >Even fucking myth has no Anni merch this time Everything is fine. Don't worry This is so comedy
>>114681757>punch downphasetacos are latinx manlets, literal small dogs
>>114681535This
>>114681802Oh yeah, it must have been my muscle memory.
New chart just dropped
>>114681822>ERB it definitely is but the tweets are protected so I can't prove it
>>114681843pebble please
>>114681843All true
>>114681843Actually accurate
>>114681843>Otomo>Sane fanbase
>>114681843I only care for ccgg and fwmc so this chart is right
>>114681843GG and Nerissa too high
>>114681843We need one of the bootlickers of EN
>>114681780
>>114681739I'd consider this friendship when they ban Rima and her brownpedo clique
it's delusional to think things aren't going to get change for english members and projects won't get dropped/ignored. the ENholos already had to fight an uphill battle against management every time they wanted to do something, hold an event, or get a concert and that was with the full power of a united holoEN unlike now where they're just individuals in a sea of JPholos. there's also the split between the ENs in japan and those not in japan, without the support the EN brand provided there is little chance gg/cc/kronii/erb/k*ara will get the same support as the holos in japan. tl;dr: you really fucking think the retards in charge of putting the EN concert on july 4th weekend will be able to manage ENs well and not fuck them over, intentionally or unintentionally?
>>114681835Already happening Wait for her stream to end and the clip of not listen to Holo mem circulate
>>114681843Kiara...
>>114681843tako is pretty finerosarion is definitely on schizo side
>>114681918>tako is pretty fineHe doesn't know....
>>114681902en management was full of assholes like that one who blamed gigi for things they got wrongalso, its full of incompetent peopleI think jp are more anal with rules but at least the talent can reach the top easier, I hope
It's all been downhill since Gura's Dodgers appearance. Fucking shark giving Yagoo unrealistic expectations.
>>114681902>you really fucking think the retards in charge of putting the EN concert on july 4th weekend will be able to manage ENs well and not fuck them over, intentionally or unintentionally?I don't think they will. However, EN's personal management were handpicked for the big homo putsch and getting rid of them was the right call. I'm torn.
>>114681903YESSSS
>>114681923reply with the randon edit like a trained dog you are
Shiori hasn't said anything yet. Is she okay?
>>114681829>2023 WAS THREE YEARS AGO
>>114681953I'm gonna notice
>>114681923our schizos are no longer afraid of breaking containment!
holo...
I bet the fancords are melting down but I'm banned so I can't see them
>>114681829>downsizedlol
>>114681958
Why did Biboo belittle the words of her coworkers? It's not only rude but also very arrogant of her.
>>114681923oof
>>114681902the fact that it had mixed reactions feom the holomems themselves means that it was NOT a sincere initiative from yagoo himself. these girls trust yagoo enough that if this merger idea came from him, everyone would had been positive about it. there's an outside pressure that made them do it, and we can only speculate who.
>>114682017Oh sorry killed
>>114681953They keep mentioning JP first
>>114681829a lot of speculation from someone who doesn’t know jack shit about the true inner workings of a company they don’t work for
>Mori got her PS3 back from Biboo>going to play Godhand soonFUCK YES
HOLOLIVE WAR
>>114682066Kiara is lying btw
>>114681551>she knows SHE'S about to be sidelined and their resources given to a A HOLO SHE BELIEVES TO BE less deserving FTFY
>>114682090stop replying to yourself
>>114681902Well you see, even if it's bad, it's actually good because hololive still winners. So bad thing is actually good thing because we said so ok?
But why did Cover do this a week before Myth turns 6?
>>114681628This girl is FAT
>>114682086Kiara is stupid and overdramatic but she's not a liar.
>>114682050Which ones are killed?
>>114681843>gigi>sane
>>114681829meanwhile>kronii just got her album>bae just got sololive>irys just got sololive>nerissa just got new outfit>biboo just got her new outfit>shiori and zeta just got their merch
>we now have schizos cross posting between different numbers threads because they need (you)s to live
>>114682026wow pebbles (real) are based
>>114681703They are actualiy getting nothing
>>114681953Why do they literally worship Japan though? this goes beyond just being weeaboos in the literal actual-definition sense. They don't simply believe Japan is better than the rest of the world and their own respective country, they literally worship japan and japanese people. Japan to Fuwamoco is like what israel is for boomers. They genuinely have a cultist-like mentality about worshipping japan so much and it's fucking insane to see it.
>>114682131
>Phase girls defending Hololive and scolding their toxic Phasefansuhhhhhh I thought we are at war with each other?
>>114681835rip rokuwawa
>Gen 1>Gen 2>Gamers>(Gen 0)>Gen 3>Gen 4>Gen 5 (ID 1)>Gen 6 (Gen 5)>Gen 7 (Myth)>Gen 8 (ID 2)>Gen 9 (Promise)>Gen 10 (HoloX)>Gen 11 (ID 3)>Gen 12 (Advent)>Gen 13 (ReGloss)>Gen 14 (Justice)>Gen 15 (FlowGlow)>Gen 16 (Asobi)
To understand the decisions of any company, the simplest rule is : Follow the money.For a company which is still run by its founders & not just profit-oriented, there's an addentum : Vision of where they plan to be 10 years from now.What has Cover learned in the past few years?1. Western marketConcerts in EN sphere are only going to be small and niche.Attempts to scale up the concerts hasn't been met with similar enthusiasm from the existing audience (lack of affordable connectivity across the EN sphere makes this even more difficult).The few "big" collabs (dodgers etc.) & concerts haven't resulted in any substantial increases in sub counts, viewer counts, merch sales etc. either (or completely lost out on their potential due to center stage talents leaving the company afterwards).Cover have also faced rise in shipping costs & other logistical issues due to geopolitics, resulting in a snapshot of the Western fanbase under crisis. And under crisis, they would rather not buy anything than paying anything extra. Japanese audience does not have this problem since merch distribution is all local, and their buying logic is more about oshikatsu.EN sphere also has problems with inflation & an economic crisis coming up. Both Japan & West face issues with birth rates, but Japanese mainstream have been much more receptive to Hololive compared to Western mainstream (probably due to aforementioned problems as well).Western market was also able to hide the issue with their own birth rates due to having high purchasing power (due to dollar being the Reserve currency) but that status is rapidly going down as more and more nations switch to trading in local currencies, resulting in Western market's purchasing power going down over time.> Inference : Hololive & HoloEN will never be "mainstream" in the West, and both short-term & long-term growth in Western market will remain stagnant or reclining. Purchasing power of Western market will only recline long-term.2. EN talents & contentENReco is quite stagnant, and EN talents haven't been doing any self-organized "big collabs" typically seen from a multitude of JP talents (and even the ones they DO organize have not been getting anything more than standard viewership).EN talents with some JP knowledge/interest also seem content in just joining the big JP-organized group events rather than organizing or growing EN-oriented ones of their own (understandable, since such events also have issues due to EN being distrbuted, timezones etc.)EN talents that live outside Japan were also shown to be more fickle about being in Hololive long-term. Ame, Gura, Fauna etc. were all potential big talents but didn't even last 5 years, which is just not good enough for a talent-focused company looking at a 10-20 year future vision.Cover seems to have had this as a long-term plan for years already, since we have seen more and more EN & ID talents moving to Japan as a form of "guarantee" for long-term commitment, so Cover can plan content around them being in the company for 5+ years at least.> Inference : Big EN talents have not been stable enough to build long-term plans around, talent-run group content in EN has just not been as forthcoming or frequent as the JP side.4. ID & SEA market in general, is simply not interested in the type of content Hololive produces (CGDCT). Their most popular ID talent was Kobo, and her content was more along the lines of collabs with existing ID fleshstreamers (esp. males) and doing local fleshstreamer-oriented content.The one ID concert didn't result in much gains, and barely scraped through.SEA also has a big population of antis that Cover can do nothing about (unlike Japanese antis, who they have been heavily cracking down on).> Inference : HoloID is a stagnant branch & SEA market is simply not that receptive to CGDCT, and is likely to remain such even 10 years from now.
>>114682158they're just like me but I only worship japanese women
>>114681829>myth has no Anni merch this timeIs this the same on the JP side too, after 5 yrs they don't have anni merch anymore?
So to sum up all the reactions at this time>Mori: Cautiously optimistic but admits she doesnt know if the merger will be a good or bad thing. Swears to fight for the former EN members.>Kiara: full on mehera melty>Ina: cautiously optimistic like Mori>IRyS: Cautiously optimistic but a bit more positive>Bae: Cautiously optimistic, but a little more negative. Admits the change is upsetting>Kronii: No comment other than clowning on management for changing her twitter>Shiori: No comment>Biboo: Nothing is changing for Advent, stop doomposting, everything will be fine, dont just take everything from out of context clips and what one talent says (aka Kiara btfo)>Nerissa: Shills herself in Japanese>FWMC: WE LOVE HOLOLIVE BAU BAU *shills themselves in Japanese*>ERB: Standard hug and heart emoji she always posts whenever some drama happens. Says she loves her fanbase. No other comment>Gigi: No comment>Cece: No comment aside from a small joke about the twitter name change>Raora: Pretty basic "HoloEN means so much to me" tweet. Overall positive. Then shilled herself in JapaneseFrom this it's pretty clear to me that there's a big difference in how all the EN-in-JP members and Ina all wanted to put out statements while the rest all decided to keep quiet or not make a comment.EN members usually try not to say anything if they think it will lead to doomposting, so if they're not saying anything, it means they dont have anything really positive to add. I imagine internally they're a lot more split on the merger being good or bad then some people will have you believe.
>>114682181Interesting that internally it's Holo vs Holo right now
>>114681739.. are you telling me the "Hololive-Phase Connect Alliance" is not just a meme?
what the heck is he trying to say?
>>114682216kiara vs bijou soon
>>114682181They don't want to be lumped in when the eventual backlash happens when fans decide to circle the wagon around the girls. JP fans already are aware of the retard grem tweet about the JP girls.
>>114681956they're not just going to drop the current EN personal managers, they still need them because the japanese managers don't know (and will never know) english.
>>114682238>what the heck is he trying to say?"PLEEEEEEEASE give me interactions"
>>114682238>>114682181virtue signaling maximus
>>114682181the holy war
>>114682066Yeah the merger is happening for happy time ahead
>>114682194Once you take all of this into account, it makes sense why Cover went for the merger.It will allow talents with multi-lingual capabilities to appeal to multiple markets, reduce operating costs by cutting middle-management, streamline the branding & prepare themselves to survive the upcoming unstable global period by cruising along with a strong JP fanbase support.Content outside of Japan will likely lean more towards digital, at least in the immediate future. Less concerts too.There will be more focus on translated content (across all languages) to broaden the brand base & erase branch identities (moving forward with unit identities instead, taking up what HoloEN was doing ("Myth", "Promise", "Advent" etc.), and allowing for formation & promotion of cross-gen & even cross-branch units once viability is studied with a few collabs).It will also allow them to pivot in the future if they see any potentially lucrative NEW market that shows interest in their content (with purchasing power to match).Overall, it makes sense that talents like Kiara, Ollie & Iofi are dooming.They are already runts in their own branches, being co-branded with their JP giants while staying outside of JP means that they're probably gonna miss out on a lot of promotional & group activities in the future.It can also be a chance to re-brand themselves & appeal to new markets though, but it's certainly gonna be a rough ride. Cover is a company though, and it will obviously prioritize the prosperity of a larger part of their talent base, especially if they have guarantees for commitment long-term (e.g. by moving to Japan).At the end of the day, it's obvious that Cover is going for a (temporarily) more distanced approach to the global market while trying to solidify their brand in Japan for future expansion after the global order settles down & growth markets are more visible.Much of their non-JP talents who have long-term plans have moved to Japan already, meaning Cover probably was planning this for a while, and likely wanted some form of guarantee that talents they recruit will stay for the long-term (or at least 5 years minimum) before plans can be made involving them.tl;dr : Financial reasons for merger> Western market is unstable in the short & long term, big EN talents have not lasted even 5 years> HoloEN as a branch seems stable but does not seem inclined to grow much more than now, especially with big talents leaving one after the other> Not as many talent-run group projects in EN as JP, resulting in more> Logistical issues, inflation & loss of purchasing power of the West makes investment in that market unviable long-term (10-20 years timeline)> SEA does not want CGDCT & is an anti hub that Cover cannot manage effectively, HoloID is stagnant> Hence, Cover merging all the branches to streamline branding to coast through short-term global issues on the back of a strong JP fanbase & focus more on digital & translated content, preparing themselves to pivot to any new lucrative market that pops up once the global situation stabilizes
>>114682252Henma is the only personal manager who does the wormtongue routine, it's the managers' managers who are the problem.
This was already happening but Matsuri and the other JPs are aware of the infighting and shit being thrown around towards them and some of the other girls.
>>114682181They're just noticing that phasenigs have a reputation and are trying to distance themselves from the backlash, just like how pippa has been trying to get rid of her polchud fanbase for years
>>114682295I for one will be watching Matsuri's English content
https://x.com/kureijiollie/status/2097185537518166042ok Ollie is happy again.
>>114682295Uuuuuuh "JP posters won't pander to EN" posters?!?! Explain?!?!?
>>114681835>>114681861>>114682038>Holo vs Holo
>>114682181Apparently this is because of the donie tweet saying phase won and phasefags unironically retweeted him which lead to it being shoved into brainless retards thinking it's a w for phase.That Indonesia retard actually managed to bait phase niggers
>>114682317I bend the knee.....
>>114682295Matsuri is now the Face of EN
>>114682181They are trying to get a pardon, they need for Cover to forgive them to let the holos collab with them
>>114682197Nope JP gets merch regardless
>Matsuri betraying JP fans and pulling a reverse FWMC
>>114682303>just like how pippa has been trying to get rid of her polchud fanbase for yearsDid it work?
>>114682321Most of the Holo vs Holo in /#/ is started by Pebbles using Biboo to shit on the other girls
>>114682291missed one> Not as many talent-run group projects in EN as JP (due to issues in organizing EN-only stuff due to timezones etc.), resulting in bilingual ENs just joining JP events, blurring the lines between branches already.
>>114682317They won't. This is just like them saying they wanna learn more english and then literally never ever doing it or even starting the bare minimum for it. It's bullshit damage control, JPs will never do anything involving speaking english and it's the dirty fucking gaijins that will need to pander to JP instead.
>>114682193>Gen 9 (Promise)Gen 9 Project HopeGen 10 CouncilGen 11 Promise
>>114682295I want Matsuri to scream "I love loli girls!" in full fluent English, on stream she basically did that many years ago with her "Loli da!!!" quote but this time I want it in english
https://x.com/moonahoshinova/status/2097178289622467012MOONA HAS SPOKENSHE WON'T PANDER TO JP
Wait holoen merged to Holojp before nijien WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN? Is yagoo okay in head?
Hololive wonKiara lost
>>114682349>Matsuri betraying [...]I believe it, that's kinda her whole shctick
>>114682362Bibooschizo PLEASE.
>>114682391who does she pander too?
>>114682321See >>114682404
>>114682404BASED PEBBLEGOD
>>114682394he sold out
>>114682422That's an English tweet so what do you think?
>holo talents were strongly discouraged from discussing the merge amongst themselves
>>114682459says who?
dyrbi?
why is bae using her sub account so much?
I feel like just a couple of lines on what the merger actually entailed could of solved this entire problem But knowing cover they probably don’t actually know what the merger is meant to accomplish as yet
>>114682459the whole point of it is to reduce negative member's influence
>>114682404She is getting too powerfull
>>114682459isn't that super black company behavior it's the same as companies not allowing employees to discuss pay rates and individual contracts
>>114682473Reine
Raise your hand if your corpo has an En branch that caters to the western audience?
>>114682473mori
>>114682481Youre a SEA chinese bae
>>114682478>>114682481absolutely seething
this is a very good point
>>114682562Not really when everyone has a respective gen
>>114682134IRyS just dropped a new album too that did really well.
Reine is telling you guys to put the phone down and stop flaming holos and other fans
>>114682404All hail Biboo
Get merge Get merge HOLONIGGER HAHAHAHAHAHA KEKAROOO
Okay what I don't get it is that girls who used to be EN and don't speak JP shouldn't be too happy about this, but somehow they are okay with the merge?
>>114682615They're sane unlike Kiara
>>114682597Who cares about homocollabing indog trash
I love Holodori but to truly enjoy it moving forward I need to find a way to remove Kiara from the game after today's events.
>>114682597I don't blame any of them. I blame Cover
>>114682615why would anyone be unhappy about it? sentimental bitches overruled
>>114682562Stop advertising your dumbass account retard
Just got home and backread a bitSo the merger stuff isn't a big deal and only dramatic bitches like ollie and kiara overreacted?
>>114682597No
how many 0 likes twitter posts can we get in this thread
>>114682638Reine's last homocollab predates Ina's last homocollab
never forget what they took from you
>>114682615Funny because Biboo was literally just mocking the fact that "they have to speak JP". You fags have all been clowned and got worked up over nothing.
>>114682562There's truth to this, cover has 62 talents right now that they gotta pay and manage and they gott pay dozens of managers and employees to help these 62 talents out. And all that puts strain on cover's wallet and the quality of the workers and talent's productivity. If you reduce the number of talents you also reduce the number of managers and staff needed, so they save way more money and the remaining girls now have more access to their manager who isn't managing 2 other talents at the same time.
>>114682667a whore right below the seething orange
>>114682615Because nothing changes for them Shiori is still going to do Shiori things and go to Japan when needed to record stuff while speaking 10 words of actual Japanese. Gigi's dumbass ideas might actually get passed more easily with JP management since they love japanese tv show antics.
>>114682112because announcing this on the JP anniversary matters more. no preferential treatment though
so... what are the benefits from this merger for EN? everyone is trying to deflect or explain away the negatives, but what positives could their possibly be?>less artificial barriers between branchescross-branch collabs were always encouraged and this doesn't solve the biggest issue, the language barrier>leverage the hololive brand power for deals and promotionsjapanese companies will obviously prefer to work with the bigger more popular japanese talent rather than the smaller english speaking ones>more direct communication to upper managementomega died years ago, the holos have been able to speak with yagoo and upper management for years to voice concerns or ideas.
>>114682703>holos have been able to speak with yagoo and upper management for years to voice concerns or ideasLOL
Reaper railed Rock
>>114682726gave up gold to Biboo...
>>114682703I still haven't heard a convincing reason as to why this is a good move yet
>>114682726Tombstone forever
Gura literally killed HoloEN lol
Is that supposed to be Kson
>>114681967she's getting her back blown out by flayon in japanshe couldn't give a fuck what's happening in hololive right now when she's finally getting the cock she's been thirsting for
Mori and Biboo are the Kirk and Spock of (Hololive English speaking talent)
>>114682738>goldNeither of them are getting gold when the heavy hitters of the branch are streaming later
why don't we get any fun ritualposters?
>>114682746No it's Lady Murasaki
>>114682703no fucking>but you are ENjokes
>>114682767No it's still Takamori.Biboo is the Picard of Hololive (English)
>>114682738Gold? For what Miko will mog them both and no one tallied for the English only tally
>>114682703HoloID will finally get their Nendoroids because their branch is the biggest roadblock why they're not getting it... haha
Despite all the negativity (mostly unfounded rrats) I am happy these retards are the ones that got the worst part, they are even MORE segregated now, I didn't think that was possible
>>114682777I don't find ritualposting fun, literally it's just spam
>>114682649Biboo told us nothing changes basically so I believe her
holo really can't go a week without a yab
Are you guys genuinely concerned or you guys are Phasecucks, Nijikeks and indies larping as holofags?Because all the Twitter conflict so far the angry one are not holofans lol
>>114682667>whoresthey can keep it
>>114682777all the good ritualposters left and those who stayed are the bad ones.
>>114682830The only thing that changes is the new "they're not EN" cope >>114682810Seems to be beginning.
>>114682810>no one tallied for the English only tally?
NO MAME WEY
>>114682772>>114682810>still copingI await your seethe for the EN tally later kek
>>114682857HoloEN technically does NOT count as an English channel anymore
>>114682825Its gonna be funny when the Homos are gone and yet things STILL won't get better in Hololive.What will the cope be then?
>>114682856i like it, cripple shit was cringe
so why couldn't the mekkies enter hololive directly? Am I supposed to believe Asobi mawaritai will be higher quality than them?
>2 threadswhy are you liek this
>>114682873homos being gone will make things better no matter what
>>114682873It's already better with homos half dead and entirely segregated
>>114682857Yeah koseki bijou belongs to hololive not hololive english Are you still in your denial phase anon?>>114682870If the tally cuck still considered hololive girls as en then he needs to started considerinv people like Miko and Pekora to the tally as well
>>114682703
>the new unit isn't new talents. >it's a reshuffle.Wanna see the board burn harder?
>>114682885Asobi girls probably have some kind of experience as an ex-idol or previous streaming/content creation experience. Mekkies have none and that's why they are in training room trying to make it into hololive proper.
reminder
>>114682923Literally says debuts in the tweets retardkun
We already have the notEN schizo.Like I said, this is like doomposting that Dunkin will never sell donuts anymore.
>>114682911Using ai for this shit? Really? Those negative points sound like made up bs
>>114682923Alright what would be biggest shitpost possible?FWMC to JP, now with 2 different channelsHaachama to ENI need a 4th
>>114682909nimi isn't part of indie english so she's immediately disqualified from the EN tallyThis is how retarded you are by the way
>>114682947i mean they did get more well known for their coffee
>>1146829110 original thoughts. Fucking GRIM
>>114682941He kind of did considering 3 phase girls had to tell their retarded brown fanbase to stop being publicly retarded
>>114682967It was because of the Japs and Koreans lol
>>114682955Indies don't have distinction. Cover said there no english branch anymore. Stop coping anon and give up
>>114682857>>114682872>>114674024
>>114682971>Expecting original thoughts>While posting in /#/
>>114682825literally unironically changes for them, why is he talking stupid shit?
Damn change the table have they sure
>>114682984>Indies don't have distinctionOh so they don't qualify for the distinct EN tally then, thanks for playing cuck.
>>114681829>If someone told me in 2023 that holoen and holoid will get merged and downsized by cover for being shitter before nijien I would have called them brown and dumb.You are brown and dumb. There, I did it for you
>>114682947Ok but I got scared about the Ihob thing
Libera me from hell deservedly doing very well
>>114682951>>114682971I told it to elaborate
>>114682872>>114682909>>114682985what a retarded angle but I don't really care about the tally since the bots
>>114683006OOF
>>114682985>62 Holos have more subs than 201 nijishittersBASED BASED BASED BASED BASEDTOTAL HOLO DOMINATION DOOOOOOORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>114683015Good cope. Next year we will hear all of en has graduated because disagreement with management as yagoo puts all the eggs in JP basket and you can hug your cope tally to sleep ruff cuck
>>114682974qrd? just link the thread where that was discussed
>>114682703Putting management teams together instead of letting them work on their own branches separately sounds good. At least, with them working together, the chances of upper management (who usually make final decisions on important stuffs) shouldn't be so clueless about EN as to get IRyS & Biboo mixed anymoreIf anything, I think streamlining the management teams / process is one of the biggest potential gain from this, if things go well
>>114682984but they still have english talents?
where's the ceiling
>>114683057>abloobloo [cuck seethepost]Not the tally anon, keep staying mindraped by him tho~
>>114682349I mean, she has menhera tendencies so I can see this somehow happening
>>114682362>he's using a pebble image, must be a pebble
>>114683006entirely different context
>>114683006>Niji's branches were merged because they aren't profitable and eventually faded away>Holo's branches are merged because Cover want to improve their treatment to push them to even higher heights. Members will keep growingThey aren't the same
>>114683006Kekarooo HOLONIGGER
>>114682404why Vegeta?
the funniest thing about this nothingburger is that whatever real change came from this merge has probably already taken effect and we've being seeing the results these past months.
>>114682984Mythic doesn't have any English distinction either, but that didn't stop us from considering them EN corpo for their English speaking VTubers
>>114683112This, nijiEN trash still hasn't had a concert despite being gigabotted for 2 years LMAO
>>114683112COPE COPE COPE COPE
>>114683057>>114681829I don't understand why you retards think the merge means graduations. I don't understand why you think they are taking everything away from EN and ID either when nobody has said that.
>>114682669qrd? what did Biboo say
>>114683124the constant recline?the failed concerts?the graduation signaling?
>>114683124Jap changed his profile moment after the announcement so yeah, the changes should've happened a while ago
>>114682923>>it's a reshuffle.A reshuffle of what?The branches have been dissolved and only a handful of gens actually practice having a cohesive unity
>>114683124iofi said she'd wear her bikini on the next stream and see if they'd stop her now that she's no longer holoIDAlso Mori said she'd act like she has holoJP permissions
>>114683124You're probably right, and myth not getting an anni merch is a nothingburger.
>>114683112You guys are cope maxxing so bad
>>114683112>>Niji's branches were merged because they weren't profitable and eventually faded away>Holo's branches are merged because they aren't profitable and will eventually fade awayNah its the same.
Hmmmm... Looks like it's Nimi Gold, Dizzy Silver and Altare Bronze for En vtubing today, yeah not much EN activity today it seems
>be me>working at a company>talent literally has zero skills, can’t perform, can’t retain a single viewer/client>consumers are hyper-cheap bottom-feeders who cry if something costs more than $0.99>somehow this is all the company’s fault???Absolute clown world. Why the fuck is the company held hostage by sub-room-temp IQ "talent" who couldn't organize a sock drawer, and a crowd of broke-ass parasites who expect luxury service for literal pennies?"Uhhh the company failed them!" No, dumbass. The talent lacks basic competence and the buyers are faggot cheapskates who want everything handed to them on a silver platter. You can't fix terminal laziness with corporate policy. The company is literally babysitting talentless hacks while taking the heat for an audience that doesn't have two nickels to rub together. Absolute brainrot.
They didn't even do this to the homos, let that sink in...
>>114682726>>114682738Glorious Biboo Domination.
>>114683124>losing identity>nothing burgerbut yes, talents moving to japan was because of this
>>114683112>Holoen in 2023 - 20 >Holoen in 2025 - 15>Holoen in 2026 - 0HOLY KEK
>>114683162>the constant recline?More members getting solo lives sure spells "constant recline" to me>the failed concerts?Which failed concerts? They keep selling more and more tickets YoY >the graduation signaling?Well, I will give you this. You are free to take Kiara if she truly wants to leave
>>114683087There isn't one Their drill will pierce the heavens!
>>114683176>yeah not much EN activity today
>>114683197homos aren't allowed in the garden, Cover just confirmed this
>>114682765Man, we used to make OC, now we're just stealing images from twitter. look at how this site has fallen
>>114683176EASY NIMI GOLD!!!!! HOLOEN STATUS? OH WAIT THEY'RE DEAD HAHAHAHAHAH
>>114683183Hold on, who the fuck hired those retards in the first place? Turns out the biggest brainlets of all are the company's own useless-ass recruiters
>>114682885Mekkies still in training no? They're like what 4 months in?
Half this thread is one schizo samefagging and not getting a single (you)
>>114683176Nimi also saw around 1.5K+ on average CCV compared to her usual collabs with Lime. ex-HoloEN fans are already moving away from Hololive and it shows
>>114681967She's sick and this Japan trip is meant to be half work and half actually taking a break for once.
>>114683225You misunderstood me, but that's okay.
No matter what happens to the branch, Reine is still cursed to be Indonesian
>>114683183>blaming talents for cover's failure in penetrating ID and EN marketsngmi
>>114683225>Cover is still providing favoritism to the Homos by not letting them get burned up in this nuke drop
>>114682941Is Donnie the 30k saving anon? Because he type and sounds like one
I found a funny post that I think I read on /vt/ as a catalog thread
>>114683235You got em good anon kekarooo
>>114683197Because they're getting shut down soon.
>>114683285>vshojocuckevery time
>>114683273nah that fags from portugal
>>114683183I know you are talking about the homos but what prompted this?
>>114683176>4view homolet's see him stream regularly and retain the returned from hiatus buff, his genmate only gets 200ccv daily
>>114683235>nimi can only take a podium spot when there's no competition grim
>>114682988this schizo anime girl is funny
Good morning doomGODSare we ready for another day of laughing at holo"en"?
>>114683292I pray that you're right.
>>114683039Tell it the first point is nonsense because an English speaking talent is not suddenly competing with a Japanese speaking talent regardless of label. tell it to stop making illogical leaps to conclusions like above and only mention certainties
Still I can't believe Cover double down on Total homo death...
>>114683273Donnie wishes he had 30k on him.
>>114683322I haven't feasted this much in months. I already had multiple threads get to bump limit.
>>114683087whoah, 2 million in 3 days, sugoi
>>114683285To be fair, Nerissa should be doing some lewd ASMR in some paywalled platform
>>114683324Considering the whole spiel they went on about how the merger is meant to further increase Hololive's reach? It 100% means that unless the homo concert does record breaking numbers they're getting the axe right after.Otherwise they'd have merged at least the two homo branches together.
Phasecon looks like it was packed.https://x.com/i/status/2096877128575008777
>>114683315she'll bronze at best and this cuck will seethe when tally anon posts
>>114683325??? Of course they're going to compete, there's no branch distinction anymore
>>114683123Not sure. It's because a bunch of holo girls reacted to him crying in the dbz game so I added it
>>114683285>blackjackIt's honestly impressive how that porn addicted cuck can divert every argument and action back "PL-PLEASE OPEN A FANSLY!!"
>>114683176oh nice Biboo Gold
>>114683256GRIMUS MAXIMUS!
>>114683321I kept saying she would unironically fit on this board. If she were a real poster she'd be nicknamed Araleschizo
No holoEN means that all of Hololive qualifies for the EN tally of they can get the English chat%Prepare for the era of Subaru taking EN gold.
>>114683347Based, keep going, I'll help now too
>>114683375No Miko will probably win Gold later tonight
>>114682134>JusticeAre they really this bad?
>>114683339KEK hahaha
>>114683352>hire a bunch of koreans and brown sea dogs, a chink haafu, and a token white american comic book nerd every gen>act surprised they don't convert to japan easily
total hemorrhoid death
>>114683414Just who
>>114683414They literally and unironically killed HoloEN
>>114683353Would
If they knew about this since June why did Kiara go on her menhera meltdown right now?
>>114683339maybe 30k fleas
Damn you know the board is bad when even the twitter /vt/ screenshots guy is saying you need help
>>114683414GG is probably swimming in sponsored dosh
>>114683409depends on the Ruffian Tallyanon if he will bend the knee (he won't)
https://x.com/SNIC_C/status/2097011354905313760>IF WE EVER DO>I'D LIKE TO THINK WE'D GET AN ENGLISH SPEAKING GROUP SOMEDAY1:36So do you still believe there's an EN speaking gen in the plans?
>>114683273Donie is fucking in indog land anon he doesn't even have 1k on him
>>114683445Kiara has been going on a menhera meltdown for months alreadySame with Mori when she went on her strike
>>114683353why are they all black?
>>114683445She has been doomposting for months. Mori's and Kiara's rm stunts were probably fueled by this.
>>114683157Kiara literally said EN and ID were going to be sidelined from now on
>>114683458anon he has bigger concerns than having 1k, their entire archipelago is getting fucked hard in the ass right now, survival matters more
>>114683457grim
>>114683457Maybe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>114683457In this economy? probably not for a while.
>>114683325It's funny that they just got rid of branches and you're like "Of course they will still act as if there are branches, though"Yeah, sure, that must be why they removed them.
>>114683465it's phasecon
>>114683457So why are people saying Mori. CONFIRMED there will be an EN gen for sure when this is what she said?
>>114681628Is that Mint or CC
when will Holostars JP and EN merge?
>>114683457For what ? So we can get more Homoshiller like ERB just let it fucking die please
>>114683457Never everThis is them phasing EN and ID out. The girls still there are fine, but the gate is now closed for new entry.
AI GOD
>>114683457>So do you still believe there's an EN speaking gen in the plans?>a whole gennope>individual english talentsyes
>>114683482Kiara is mentally ill and always has negative thoughts since Gura left, she's borderline schizo
>>114683509Holonigger coping
>>114683457This, and then Cover goes like>Oh, more english-speaking talents? yeah bro i gotchu, check this out buddy, just for you:>HOLOLIVE ANIME WITH JP-ONLY>HOLOLIVE JP GIRLS THE FIRST ONES TO GET REDESIGNS >NEW UNIT SOON, JAPANESE-ONLY
As one of the people who said "going public won't effect anything because Yagoo still controls the majority of the shares and it doesn't matter what the current stock price is" I will admit reality has conspired to prove me rather incorrect. It was just wishful thinking.
>>114683510>that hair>titsWhat do you think?
>>114683513she's shilling them by dropping collabs with them, truly a mastermind
>>114683526If they EVER do a mixed language speaking gen, it will have 0 fucking chemistry>b-but justiceyes the gen as a whole has fuckall to none chemistry
>>114683541based repentant coper
>>114683457>Get 2 new EN members in a mixed JP/ID gen>Both are homostar loversgrim
black company
>>114683522You know it just scrapes shitposts from here, Twitter, and kurosanji right?
>>114683541As a certified doomerchad this doesn't have anything to do with Hololive going public or stock shit.This is happening because HoloEN and HoloID flopped. They're trying to save the side branches instead of firing them all which is why the merges are necessary.
>>114683445Kiara has been doomposting for a while but of course she couldn't say why, now the announcement is out so she's venting and having her long awaited breakdown sadly her peers don't share her sentiment so she looks like the crazy one.
>>114683587>so she looks like the crazy oneh-hot, I dig that
whos the first to graduate ?besides kiara and cc
>>114683529>Since Gura leftNigga she's been negative ablut everything since day 1. They could hand her everything she wants and somehow make all graduated ENs return and she'd still wouldn't be happy.If she actually graduated she'd fucking be negative once everything doesn't magically get better and her numbers drop.
>>114683587Even if they share her feelings it's pointless to be public about it. It's a done deal, complaining won't change anything.
Based Nerissa killing the last EN concert with a retarded name like "serendipity"She knew.
>>114683445I thought they've only known since some time in August
>>114683445Because Kiara needs something to have a meltdown over to function
hear me outwe need a scat gen
>>114683513>>114683560Can you cock obsessed faggot please STOP making up imagining hypotheticalThat entire branch is quite literally on life support
>>114683565is what your mother keeps, yes
So there's no JP branch?
>>114683580Retarded doomerlet. Real doomerchad here. The only reason EN is considered a "flop" (or rather, a poor investment compared to JP) IS because of short sighted pleasing to investors that only cares about the state of the line quarter to quarter. Graduating all of them was never a feasible plan. It'd bite them back hard and result in even higher stockholder panic. This is them cutting their losses on ever investing on EN or ID again while still keeping the current talent and facade up.
>>114683664shiori is getting double teamed by flayon and octavio right nowthis is the fate that awaits all hololive members that debut into the japan only timeline
holyshit wamy you can't say that about Kiara
>>114683678yeahhhhh riiiightI'm sure all of the english learning streams from JP's years ago went somewhere THIS time it will be different for sure
>>114683375Nah Miko gold
>>114683691>shiori is getting double teamed by flayon and octavio right nowYou're probably masturbating while typing this lole
>>114683680I imagine the investors want them to triple down on more JP gens and focus on cards and gacha. Basically be Anycolor.
>>114682238Leechus maximus
>>114683486I don't think so considering the fag pulled entire phase fags to attack Holo on x with his phase won tweet Just check the retweets for it everyone started shitting on him after Pippa posted donot attack Holo tweet
>>114683718Yes. And it's not all sunshine and roses for JP either, it will be feast or famine for the successes and the people not worth investing as much.
>>114683753But that was always true and hasn't changedRunts have always been runts
>>114682238Lui's hag pussy is delicious
>>114683678there was never one, the HQ was JP by default
Most likely to have a successful indie career to the least likely and most carried by the brandMoriBibooKroniiIRySInaBaeGGFWMCRaoraNerissaCCKiara ERBShiori
who the fuck unironically thinks this merge can only mean good things in the future
>Brand new Suisei original with super expressive sakuga MV is getting out-paced by the Mori/ERB cover with sliding PNGs How come nobody's talking about this?
So this means any anti posts are fair game for the 1.5 mil yen per post treatment
>>114683793only spineless corpo bootlickers and retards
>>114683793Only commies like you, hate this move and are grasping at straws and comparing it to game companies.
>>114683285>blackjack101I mean it's one of the cuckposter
>>114683793Only retards who are blind like the tally cuck
>>114683793H O L O N I G G E R
>>114683793>le change is bad!
>If an anti attacks Mori, he'll have to deal with JP laws.This is why they're seething.
Still not watching phase
>>114683708>>114683454
>>114683768That's a good point
>>114683793It's just a question of how much negativity is warranted and how much is exaggeratedPersonally, I'm firmly and confidently on the camp that we aren't getting a primarily English speaking chuuba ever again.
>>114683809Kamina is bigger than Suisei
>>114683793Fuwamoco
>>114683793>can only mean good things in the futureOnly shitposters and complete retards think this. Most people are just waiting for more info instead of going full doom
>>114683824he really raped you didn't he KEK
>>114683837Only if they're Japanese. Which was still the case before anyway.
>>114683741>everyone started shitting on him after Pippa posted donot attack Holo tweetare, are you implying the vile Phasefags actually obeyed Pippa and are slowly standing down? Because that would be close to impossible given how much they wanted Hololive to burn down..
>>114683793Corpodrones share the agenda that EN fans are annoying, but now holoJP must regard them as part of the one huge community, thus retards like Helmir and Okabe will never make sense in their stance, more proof that they're midwits.
>>114683706>THIS time it will be different for sureNah Matsuri is the only JP who's allow to say that>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGsgS1NTJQ>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUnKfpL-OuAShe's actually putting in the effort to do cross-branch collabs recently
>>114683861I'm not. Fuck it, full doom. Worst case scenario I'm pleasantly surprised.
Nice. They added Botan's song to holodori.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXLHcjhz2Ys
>>114683809Because MV performance is indicative of only one thing>the algorithm likes the videoThere is nothing to talk about
>>114683899You're also a retard, just on the other end of the spectrum. But I get it, doomposting can be fun. Just leave it out of streams and comments.
>>114683788More like:
>>114683837oohhhh yeah that could work that way too, no wonder the en antis are seething
>>114683895She will be the new Towa since Towa is busy sucking e-sports cock right now
>>114683883Pippas own fans don't even listen to her they've been cuckposting about that racing guy for like 2 weeks
>>114683837NOOOOO COVER SAMA DON'T SEND ME A CEASE AND DESIST LETTER FOR CALLING MORI A WIGGERare you for real lol
>>114683910I don't chat or post anyway so it's whatever. You guys are the sole beneficiaries of my dooming
It's all fun and games until the new unit or atvleast one of the new talents is revealed to be multilingual.
>>114683928Understandable, Phasecucks are cuckolds by default after all.
>>114683788>>114683911Ham and Poya already had a decent following before joining, if the leave with their new found Holo fanbase they will do even better
>>114683911>Will thrive outsider of Holo Reminder her meltdown started when the concert was doing bad. She lost any leverage she had.
>>114683895How many words of English has she spoken? How many English tweets has she made?
>>114683809Nothing beats TTGL kino
>>114683954DYRBI
>>114683954And then she speaks japanese 99% of the time anyway
>Biboo watching Nintendo DirectNice
>>114683958this makes me wish Biboo never nuked her indie persona so she'll have a backup in case the whole thing goes kaput, but she's decided she's in Hololive for the long run.. oh well
>>114683958They were very low 3views. Like 100-300 average. Their retention of Holo fans would make or break them. Raora is the only one with a full on semi-popular established persona she could jump back into.
>>114683954That will only make cover's agenda even more apparent>Introduction has a lot of English in it to stand out>Hopium overdose>Two months later, the vast vast majority of her streams are in Japanese
>>114683970>How many words of English has she spoken?Near ZERO but she's done far more for JP/EN/ID group cohesion in the past month than english speaking JPs like Lui or Ririka have done in their entire careers
>>114683969actually the concert went well
>>114683969You lost
>>114683992She could bring it back or just remake herself like Nimi/Dooby. Possibly even get the same artist.
>>114684015>failing to sell 50% of tickets>"went well"KWAB
>>114684015>>114684018>Handing out half your tickets is doing well
>gradbegging Tombstone The cope has begun in earnest.
>>114683992Will Koseki even survive as an indie post-Hololive?>>114684003They literally did this for HoloX during their debut month. I remember watching Chloe and Iroha speaking english in their early streams then those slowly turned into full jp streams.
Another BibRyS date todayTHEY ARE
>>114684001CC/GG have a bigger following that Rao has now, I don't think Raora would be on their level if they all went indie
>>114684046This will be like that but from an actual white woman that speaks English flawlessly.
>>114684046Ririka also did this to fix horns
>>114684046>Will Koseki even survive as an indie post-Hololive?she'll lose the Bot engine so no
>>114684046>survivelol no
>>114684084Very predictable reply Bibooschizo.
>>114684046They do this every single time. Ririka too. At the end of the day 99% of the JP audience gets omega filtered by english or NA friendly timeslots and will fuck off if there's too much of it. That's why all this talk of trying to push the EN talents on to JP feels like it'll be a waste of effort
>Gradbegging>Mori and BibooThese schizos aren't really bright.
>>114683969Not only did Skyline do well, but the other big indie concert of the year which competed directly with Serendipity on the same day (Doki Rewind) sold out no problem!
>>114683788Only rating top half>MoriNo question.>BibooProbably hangs out around at least high 4view low 5view if she loses the EN cull, a more successful Nimi in other words. She will be able to hold fans, but without access to the box growth will be difficult>KroniiExtremely overrated, her popularity is primarily a function of the box and won't have access to it anymore. Additionally, she has scruples and will take a similar line to Shachi and avoid overly relying on her Holo past to open doors for her VA interests or even her streaming channel.>IRyS and InaStreaming will be second priority for them. Probably they will end up like Sakuna: one or two streams each week at most but with a far lower CCV than what they used to get. They should remain successful outside of streaming with their old and new connections>Bae and GigiQuite similar to each other, they should hold onto her small group of dedicated fans, but both probably end up at best very low 4view with no way to appeal to the box audience, worse versions of Kronii in a sense.
>>114684111because it will be, Japanese people aren't interested in watching EN people just as the majority of EN audience isn't interested in watching JPI do not understand why are they trying to push it and think it will work
>>114684114Calliope and Bijou going indie will be a powerful additional to the Avengers dude kek
>>114684128400ticket sold out against 6K
>>114683954>one of the new talents is revealed to be multilingua>koyori>lui>chloe>niko>kanade>botan>Iroha>ririka>rirara>neon
>>114683793Me
>>114683793>sisters branding the merge as bad to shitpost
The reason why Kiara is melting down is because she honestly doesn't have anything else to offer besides "I'm one of the first ENs".Ina is an artist, Mori has a record label, Kiara has that stupid Eurovision dream.
>>114684111>That's why all this talk of trying to push the EN talents on to JP feels like it'll be a waste of effortIt's not a waste of effort because it's not an earnest attempt. Just a way to make them quitting on ever bolstering EN ranks ever again more palatable for now until everyone gets used to it.
>>114684128>Not only did Skyline do well>>114684030
>>114684151It was 1200 tickets but okay
We should rally behind kiara and ollie. They are out only hope.
>>114684128Do they pay you to do damage control or do you seriously expect you'll convince people that a concert that had to hand out most of their tickets and still failed to fill the venue did well?
>>114684138See>>114684164Stop trying to analyze it as if it's the actual idea and not a smokescreen for them never hiring another EN/ID again
>>114684183you faggots are defending the EN concert that didn't sell out lol
>>114684183did well enough for Mori to start begging and paying said concert performers to appear on her anniversary show
>>114684196What will you do if this narrative of yours doesn't pan out?
>>114684163>inalmao
>>114684196I mean I am expecting them to never bother with new EN speaking talent but that doesn't make my statement wrongJP audiences for the most part do not care about EN speaking membersEN audiences for the most part do not care about JP membersyou can't pander to one audience with a different language speaker, it will not work
>>114684163Kiara is the sun of hololive. The heart and soul of hololive.
>>114684210Admit I'm wrong. Won't happen, albeit. And remember, don't piss your pants in excitement if you see a seemingly EN talent in a future unit. Wait two months to realize they are purely a JP talent that happens to know how to speak English fluently
>>114684210give me one conrete proof that there's a confirmed future where they are still considering more EN speaking talents
>>114684152>Haachama-chama....
>>114684235Screencapping this lol. The immediate pivot to the inevitable would be hilarious
>>114684229My point is that they know that and don't care because they are not actually gonna try to push EN to JP or JP to EN. It's just something to say to soften the blow. (See? It totally has upsides!)
>>114684203>paying said concert performers to appear on her anniversary showWho? Kiara?
>>114684128>>114684015Indies really do have all the capabilities of corpos now don't they. And they keep all their profits and are paid in dollars not Yen, why is any American/European bothering to stay in Holo....
>>114684251Suit yourself. That screencap is gonna rot away. Doesn't give me much joy, but your cope has to be called out for what it is.
I'm gonna be honest with you guys. Outside of feeling bad for Kiara I really don't care about what Hololive does at this point. I've been watching less and less holo streams for months now but for some reason I keep opening this thread. Maybe this metge is a sign that I should finally call it quits and move on.
>>114684231that's shuba
It will be revealed that Kiara was on the way out and wanted a Sympathy buff for her indie career
>>114684278I haven't been a hololive fan since 2023 but I still post here
>>114684252Yeah I know it's just corpobabble to damage control
>>114682404pebbles... your days are numbered
>>114684066We're gonna get more fuwamoco shit, just girls that only want to be part of JP and want only a JP audience
>>114684231that's korone
>>114684285She should ask cover to do black screen stream. She can farm numbers for a month with that.
>>114684203Mori isn't paying indies that sell 50 tickets(club ironmouse) anything lmao
>>114684278>>114684294
>>114684279That's kiara. She's the phoenix. She's also the representative of talent in hololive when everything is hard.
>>114684300>>114684335
okay but why would they ever pick the ID speaking girls for concerts or anything when they have big dogs like Miko in the SAME branch now lol
>>114683482>Takanashi "i'm not getting 1m subs fast enough" Kiara doesn't like somethingYou could give her 4m subs and she would be mad at not being higher than Gura. She is mentally ill
WHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIES
>>114684319is she still a part of hololive?
>>114684363Imagine shitting on the only member that is fighting for equality in hololive. Shame on you.
>>114684363bro just shut the fuck up
>>114684335Jurard's debut antics were the last straw for me after giving hololive a second chance with Advent. I'm just not going to support a company that treats me like that. It's still going on too, the fag thinks he can lecture holofans about Bae and Cover is happy to let him do it.
>>114682740getting rid of middle management that’s notorious for being bad?
>>114684412uh yeah I'm sure EN's who cant speak Japanese will be able to communicate well with the JP managers
>>114684418Reminder that full EOPs of EN graduated first
>JP managementI've been trying to tell you idiots, management is going to be hit the hardest because they're the ones who have redundant divisions, not the talents
>>114684418yeah but previously when those non-fluent JP managers interfaced with the EN branch those EN managers told them everyone loves homos
>>114684386she doesn't like the race mixing going on she'll be back
>>114684418They are not getting rid of their personal mangers retard
>>114684442What will the cope be when we see they still have like 800 employees come November
>>114684443I don't care about the homos lolJP management won't care about EN only speaking members that's just a fact
>>114684412>getting rid of middle managementIs there any actual proof of this happening beyond anons who changing the branding means the dozens of employees who make up the intra managerial structure are going to suddenly disappear?
>>114684459I don't care what you think TOTAL HOMO DEATH
>>114684449wishful thinking they're staying lolfew girls already changed managers recently
>>114684163trvke
>>114684470iirc Pekora mentioned before the HoloNEXT stream that her manager quit, along with a few others so there is some layoff going on within Cover
>>114684412nothing will happen when the next financial report drops it's going to have the same amount of employees listed as usual
>TWO Biboo streams>TWO days in a rowSHE LOVES ME SPECIFICALLY
I'm a doomchad, but I have no reason to believe management won't be hit hard by this as well. Cover did this because they want the line to go up. Sacking at least 30% of your management is a great way to do it.
>>114684476Just so we are clear Personal manager =/= middle management
>>114684418definitely still better than omega team
>OMG AMD is merging with ATi, AMD is doomed
>>114684481personal talent managers are not the ones that cover needs to be getting rid of
new Hololive, same MOGGING of shitters
>>114684503okay? that doesn't change any of the things I am sayingnone of the JP managers will care about EN, personal managers are just servants who walk near you and do as you please
>>114684163Mori doesn't have a record label
>>114684501>Sacking at least 30% of your management is a great way to do it.this is something a western company would do japanese companies don't do these mass layoffs
>>114684529Like translating, yeah we know
This is a very sexy Biboohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1buXurdS3wEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1buXurdS3wEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1buXurdS3wE
GREEN LINE MUST GO UPMILLIONS MUST PERISH
>>114684534Signed to*
>>114684520>drama buff>can't even hit 10kGRIM
https://x.com/ASOBIMAWARITAI/status/2097210829376499886>new JP gen>even JP can't read the handwriting
>>114684520nimi still wins the english tally by default
>>114684548Give me the qrd, are they going to tease a new zelda or is it going to be about OoT Remake?
>>114684544speaking through machine translations is not translatingnot even all of the personal managers know japanese lol
>>114684565>They're actually KoreansThe swerve is coming!
>>114684519except henma
>>114684548wait wasn't kiara doing a watchalong as well?
>>114684565TRVST OUR GREAT YAGOOTHEY WILL BE BILINGUAL!!!!!
>>114684581uh huh
>>114684577I'm not sure all I know is Biboocute.
>>114684590henma has been praised by many girls as generally pretty competent
>>114684602thanks for the concession I guess?
>>114684595She pulled it pretty soon after after her breakdown in the chat earlier.
>>114684573lol
I would like to remind you that even the JPs have complained about shitty management, the merger was NOT to make management better or to improve anything and anyone thinking otherwise is being obtuse on purpose. If it was a management issue it could have been resolved internally with no merger needed. The merger is a banishment room for the foreign talents.
>>114684621Poor kiara. Getting bullied by the management.
>>114684518AMD (hololive JP) isn't doomed but ATi (hololive EN/ID) is
Grim, looks like a banishment room is in effect for EN and ID now
>>114684520>Ultra drama buff>Raided by the former face of en>0 overlap after raid>Barely hit 9kCertified THD
>>114684449FUWAMOCO talked like a week ago about how their personal manager had just recently had their last day
>>114684613yeah at setting up homocollabs for everyone except fuwamoco, who fired him
>>114684455who know? this is not something that happen overnight and there is literally nothing change so far. everything is just guess work.the only changes lately are that bae got promote a lot more, bae and irys got sololive, homo existence got erased
>>114684653You're not even trying to say it's botted anymore so what's the point of the graphs
New unit announced.
>>114684678You already know it's botted anyway
>>114684654Are they managerless now?
>>114684693Looks like a normal curve to me.
>>114684653thanks for contributing to our Glorious Biboo Domination agenda, anon~
>>114684520Nimi gold nice
>>114684520wait, nimi still got botted? i thought engine is gone except for niji and clio
>>114684520>Biboo GoldHololive still won lmaooo
>>114684710riiiight
Alright holobronies be honest for a secondHow much is cover paying you to defend hololi from this yabOr are you doing it for free hahahahaha
>>114684737point to where the bots are, then
>>114684654isn't that like the 6th one they've been through? doubt they build any sort of connection or bond with their managers over the years, now someone like kronii losing kroma might be enough to trigger a graduation
>>114684740is this? could it be? real, unfiltered nijiseethe, fresh from the source? it's been so long...
>>114684740what? you thought you can shitpost without any resistance? are you retarded?
kek You sissies have fun with your kiddy online fight because this nothing burger doesn't bother me at all. I only watch FWMC and JP-only streams anyway
>>114684565I can read that. It's not so bad just slightly messy.
ENtards making fools of themselves
>my oshi is getting a sololive (that's failing to sell out because Cover are retarded) so everything is ok, fuck the other girls!why are IRyStocrats like this?
>>114684784>>114683006
I haven't checked for a while and this Aki guy is now a monk?!https://x.com/GunweebJimmy/status/2097154117718376823did Aki do one homo collab too many?
>>114684824It is! Real Nijiseethe!
>>114684820brother you posted the kronie
>>114684809you can't speak japanese
>>114682384>This is just like them saying they wanna learn more english and then literally never ever doing it
>>114684820Because IRyS has been historically treated the worst among ENs. If she is still doing well / being treated well, other ENs should be, too(Heck, I think the region lock on ticket sales is dumb, too)
>>114684762
>>114684732>constant incline for 3 hours>then constant decline almost immediately after>1200 chatters
>>114684885bro doesnt understand how curves work
>>114684885Permanent Nimi Gold DOOOOORRRRYAAAAAA
Holobroskies I heard about the mergerI'm really sorry to hear that, you have my sincerest condolencesI still remember you laughing at nijisanji and wishing our livers to merge with nijiJPBut I'm a kind person and I can find the will in my heart to forgive you your past transgressionsIn light of that I propose burying our past grievances and together mourn the unfortunate and untimely death of holoEN right before its 6th birthday
>>114684565>12year old japaneseUOH?
>>114684885It's crazy that Nimi still gets botted to this day.
>>114684659Why do I keep seeing people mention that FWMC had Henma as a manager. He was working with Mumei at the time of Advent's debut and they have never said they had henma.>>114684778Yes they've been through a bunch, it could mean nothing but I always think the timing with an entire branch merger is pretty conspicuous.
>>114684885>also 4k likes for 5 hour 5k averagemost likely just small engine like 1k
>>114684885>got botted>STILL lost to Biboo and MoriKekkarrooooooooooooo
>>114684885just like biboo
>>114684636Whatever kind of complaints HoloJP might have over the management, they still have it much better than EN does. That's the thing.I won't even bother mentioning ID who have been cockblocked from growing due to the lack of managers for years
>>114684953At least she didn't get merged lol
>>114684565>Be yagoo >Want to hire Chinese gen>ages since you fired all Chinese, it should be fine to hire them again>But you can't create HoloCN again>Merge all branches and debut new Chinese gen as first global gen
>>114684970Oh Nimi did got "merged", on the bed with her husband KEK
>>114684947Towa's manager also quit sometimes (a month or two?) earlier. It could be just manager churn. We know that IRyS's manager is still around and active, for example, so it's unlikely that they are canning all EN managers at least.
Yagoo be like>Hahahaha those aosobi girls are so funny I'm going to merge without looking
>>114684565I can't read moonrunes, but the strokes seem rather clear to me. Is it truly that bad?
>>114684970kek
please don't forget about me, anons
Only woke blackrock activists are unhappy at the mergerOf course the wokiest of holos is the most cross at cover
>>114685042this is getting axed isn't it
>>114682212It's simple, any EN event they had will get axed, especially concerts. Mori literally SAID this would happen when she stated they would instead just send "15 random holos" as guests to the U.S. in the future (if they even decide it's still worth it).In exchange, the things to be "optimistic" about are basically better access to JP opportunities, which doesn't necessarily mean they'll actually get anything. The split reactions mainly come from the fact that most of EN truly doesn't care about their EN identity or whether they'll get events together. They just simply don't care if EN concerts are gone.This can't get more obvious than with certain talents immediately "doing the Meloco" and trying to attach themselves to JP.
>>114683793>MUH CHANGE IS BADYou sound like a baby. Grow the fuck up.
>>114685062tell that to holo members lmfao
>>114685032Here she's trying to writeなんか、時間が早すぎる気がしてさー!
>>114685076they're women
>>114685062He's right. Change IS bad.
>>114685062>change is le goodthe burden of proof is on you
>>114685112>even Anya is doompostingunironically over for exID
>>114684817>"All the bugmen bootlickers who likely only watch JP are making fun you brwos!!!!"Ummmm, why should >we care?
>>114683112Overdosing on copium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLkBvPzldbw
This remind me how white people get jobs in china just for being white. They are called white monkeys because like monkeys at the zoo they are there to be exotic, do nothing and just be a curiosity to look atThis is essentially what is gonna happen to holoEN. They will be en monkeys to invite to events and look exotic for the viewers. No input, no events, just accessory to japanese holos
Is this true numbers?
>>114685112shes still right thoughShes Hololive, JP EN and ID are all merge to Hololive, not to JP
>>114685059>>114685128EN & ID are both dead. It’ll be every talent for themselves now. Who’s even going to organize big EN or ID events/concerts without an actual regional project manager? They’re just going to be accessories to JP from now on.
>>114685157this
>>114685085The が is really really bad but the rest is mostly understandable
This analogy may sound insane but it honestly makes sense in my head. It's literally like the minecraft servers. Do you build your own server with its own SOVL, or do you walk into a 5 year old themepark with infinite-resource slop machines around every corner, but nothing you do will ever stand out from under the shadow of Shubagelion?
>>114682212>EN members usually try not to say anything if they think it will lead to doompostingThis is correct. Someone not making a post on twitter is pretty informative since most of the girls are smart enough not to doompost in public and cause a wave of concernposting. Kiara is the exception really which is why she always gets into drama.
>>114684048>IRyS doesn't stream anymore>She spends all her time going on dates with Biboo and FlareYa know what, I respect it.
>>114685177there won't be any EN/ID events anymore lolthey didn't get official events like that to begin with but talent-organized ones will be gone too.
>r/hololive upvoting dinofag’s dramafaggotryYou know what? HoloEN deserves to fucking die for so many HoloEN fans enabling that faggot despite everything he’s done.
We lost EN concerts for... Faster game perms and "maybe they'll appear on official channel shillslop (famous for being so entertaining) more often".
>>114685212>there won't be any EN/ID events anymore lolThat's fantastic news. The less I see ID the better and now girls like Kiara don't have an excuse to shove them into what used to be "EN" events. Hytale is certainly proof of how popular forcing ID with EN was
>>114685228Newfag?OKBHfag always bot these post
>>114685177I still don't understand thisWhy would anyone fucking think "EN and ID has access to JP opportunities!!" is gonna mean anything? JP sponsors won't look for fucking EN or ID members, they'll still want JP's
>The fans melting down are the ones who don't actually have anyone outside HoloEN.>they don't follow JP's or SuzyI get it now. The holoen starter pack fans are the ones most hit by this.
>>114685231>Faster game permsWait until Biboo starts streaming Kingdom Hearts before you say that
Octavio has a threesome collab with flip women on friday. Nemusanji and Millie
>>114685058Next unit after EN-focused unit
>>114685259>EN and ID fans will complain mostI mean yeah obviously? This doesn't affect JP at all.
>>114685265He's married, Millie is married, don't know who's Nemusanji
>>114685259no shit retard, we are saying EN's are getting fucked the most lolstop pretending you even speak Japanese, reading liveTL off of chat is not speaking JP
>>114685196i dont
>>114684736Peanut gold actually if we are consider cope rules
I'm going to sound like Kiaraschizo for saying this, but I see KFP getting torn apart by EN and JPfan on Twitter, and they deserve it
why the fuck are multiple phase whores suddenly trying to act like wholesome chunguses with the "pls no anti hololive" shit, lol?they welcomed this behavior for years
>>114685264she still needs to finish 3 games atm, plus gta 5 before gta 6
>>114684980kek
>>114685280>married means you can't have sex with someone other than your spouseogey
>>114685307>they welcomed this behavior for yearsno they didntthe "phase hates hololive" shit is pure numberfag fiction
>>114685244Where the fuck are the mod dogs?
>>114685307Pandering for likes/clout lol
>>114685246ThisAre Holofans on Twitter retarded, or are most people just retarded?
>>114685322is that not what marriage means what are we saying
>>114685246because that's how it is now, they're all in one bucket so they can choose anyone
>>114685246>JP sponsors won't look for fucking EN or ID members, they'll still want JP'sA lot of sponsors just "buy" a sponsor package without actually specifying which member they want. "Bartering" is also a very normal thing in idol scene for big and successful idol groups (where the group accepts the sponsor / show's request for certain members, but in exchange asks to bring some other less popular members as well).It might not work for big sponsorship like Nissin noodle where they probably specified exactly which members they wanted, but the medium-sized or lower should be fair
>>114685284Tally Anons (yes both of them) never acknowledged Peanut, so its likely gonna be Biboo "EN" Gold. Ruffian Tallyanon did say yesterday that the EN Tally will remain unchanged so there ya go
>>114685246it means that EN sponsors can now pick JPs instead of just EN
>>114685307They've realized just how stupid some of their fans are.
>>114685307cause they saw all their monkeys shit stirring on their feed and know it looks bad for them
>>114685296That lunchbox fag is always stirring drama but he doesn't come close to these schizo justicefags who are unironically demanding that the JPs start speaking English to make it "fair"
Fuwamoco knows about the cover ninja shitposting?
>>114685307>act likefuck you, nijiniggerPhase and hololive are brother and sister
>>114685307They're planning to accept the en holofans that don't want integration with JP
>>114685296you deserve a good beating
>>114685369lmao
>>114685322>married means you can't have sex with someone other than your spouseYes? kek>>114685329It will probably be deleted later, don't forget your report
I haven't watched a ton of vtubers or Holo EN for like two and a half years now but I still feel like I lost something important. Holo EN got me through 2020-2022. I used to wake up and plan my whole day around streams, even my lunch at work. I used to take a week off just to watch debuts and Holofes. I guess its natural that everything ends but it still sucks.
>JPs will all get everything!>meanwhile, Hololive x Gundam:Why do schizos always assume they know everything .
It's funny how HoloEN, the thing everyone here loved so much and spend hundreds of hours talking about and obsessing over, just went out with a fucking whimperNo collab no nothing
>>114685382yeah you're right, it'll just be Mori and IRyS getting new things lol
>>114685359Some of them are retardedhttps://x.com/Gastornis_KFP/status/2097036911311220819?s=20>>114685372You too lil' nuggets
>>114685307Most of them were inspired to get into vtubing by Myth
>>114685366I'm here, there and everywhere, you know? Bau Bau
>>114685359Cover knew with every new gen we might get more and more retards like these so they killed any possible opportunity of having another justice like fanbase or en debut all together>Shitposting aside I really feel like the merger shit is bad for optics because if you look at the JP competition they have more fleshed out units and well established cross gen units like cellmates vachs Chronoir etc while Holo doesn't have one single cross gen unit. This might unironically make a few shareholders panic sell
>>114685398I'll never forget Shiina getting mad over OWTH
>>114685394NTA but>At least IRyS, Biboo, Mori, Bae, Ina and FWMC are getting new things. Good enough for me compared to before
>>114685417OWTH?
>>114685394>capcom
>>114685432Your newfag is showing
When did Kiara cancel her Zelda Direct watchalong?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la20TwUUbig
>>114685441Just graduate already. Fucking drama queen.
Even this fat fuck is making fun of you holodrones
>>114685421>Baefuck off homofag
>>114685441She is busy lamenting
>Only top talents get everythingSince when Hololive turned into Nijisanji?
>>114685468oh hello there Morischizo
>>114685451Wait that image wasnt edited? Kek
The plot of the Hololive anime>awkward anime protag is hit by a train, and isekai into another world of Hololive members>he has adventures with them and sleeps with them 1 by 1 getting them all pregnant>characters are voiced by the actual talents including h-scenes
why is she like this?
Mori is like Trigger, Stick with Mori and you'll make it.
>>114685391Still can't believe they couldn't get a final collab going
The star in are doing "well well well" emote
>>114685490She has potential to become a bigger yab than Rushia's, MichealCat's or Selen's
>>114685516What? Did you have a stroke?
>>114685394IRyS deserves it all and more.
The behavior of Hololive is suggesting to me they really, really, really need money
>>114681739There always has been an amicable atmosphere between the talents. Mori even drew Pippa a drawing for her birthday once
>>114685359his demand isn't far-fetch with the merger retard, are you too stupid to realize that this is the new normal
>Homosisters think this is a moral victory.>Holostars is being jettisoned while the others got absorbed.
>When the environment surrounding us changes without regard for our own will, it's perfectly fine for both "Why?" and "No, I don't want this"
>>114685549they need the graph to go up so shareholders won't drop their ass
>>114685568Kek, members are already shifting on Kiara.
KEK
>>114685549yes, they know their lifespan is coming to a close so they maximize profit before the eventual collaps within 3 years
I'm expecting Kiara to be gone as soon as the next extension is up.There is no way this kind of attitude is acceptable, even if you're going into a change you don't like.Believe me, I've been transferred to different departments and it isn't an easy feeling... but you have to maintain professionalism.
>>114685622Delusional
>>114681628Why is it called /v/?
>>114685635What's delusional about it. She has close to no leverage left to use. The way she's acting about it, she'll lose even more.
>>114685622pretty sure she already said her meltdown isnt about the merger, its vagueposting shit
>>114685563They dont understand Cover made up this drama so they wont see the fact that Cover pushed homos far away from Hololive without them realizing
>>114685672Wait are you seriously telling me there's something worse than the merger we don't know about yet?Who's graduating this time?
>>114685563Andromeda, The Milky Way, and the Triangulum Galaxy merge and Dwarf I Sculptor will be flung into the cosmic void.
>>114685698She's only close to one person in EN and that's Raora
>>114685672That is cope. Her actions are saying otherwise. The use of the contextualisation of Endgame is enough to know that it is about the merger.
so now that everyone is equal the former ID's will get sololives right?
>>114685714>only close to one personWrong
>>114685549yeah and that fat orange fuck accelerated this by attacking Japan's main source of Oil. The same orange fuck that Pippa and her chuds voted for, and now she's crying for Holololive.
I know there are couple of retards shitting on Ollie and Kiara (or maybe it's one nigga) but all I have to say is what both of them including Iofi did is not at all professional I would give Kiara more flak if you are depressed and not well mentally take a break instead of crashing out in public for no good reason it really stupid to throw your genmates and company under the bus because your homorones are not working properly
>>114685672it's not "just" the merger but the members stream showed it absolutely is the primary reason.if i had to guess, it's that they won't get any more EN concerts, which any reasonable person would group as part of the merge but she could be trying to say "its not just about losing the EN identity, we literally aren't getting shit anymore"
>>114685698It's the fact that her second option is now clearly doomed to fail and her RM isn't as popular as she thought.Oh, and no other EN sharing her opinion might be a part of it, too, with how much she complained about being lonely or isolated recently
Damn the sisters are jumping on you holodrones
>>114685672not the merger but the consequences of itkiara was top talent of en, but in combined holo she's nothing
>>114685750I hate Kiara but she could make it as an indie, she has a fanbase of dedicated cucks who will follow her anywhere
>>114685733She was complaining to Raora that she couldn't get people to join a collab which should have happened yesterday.It's obvious now that she wanted to do a final full EN collab and that the other ENs weren't interested in burning bridges like deranged retards over a label like what she's doing.
>>114685698>time?there's your hint right there
>>114685468Kek
>>114685714Mori the leaker said Ina is next
>>114685733Who else then
>>114685759That's not enough to sustain her lifestyle and yearly maldives trips.
>>114685765would be very funny if she left after that corpo babble damage control post
>>114685759>Had to hand out tickets>All exholos lost 75% of their audience or more2 view within 2 months. Especially since everything won't magically get fixed when she goes indie so she'll be EVEN more negative every stream. People won't stick around for that shut.
ohh yeah btw, what was Towa /hlg/ (the general that hates EN discussion, remember) reaction to the merge? we went so gung-ho yesterday that I forgot to check their reaction
>>114685790The EN ex-holos all retained most of their audiences
>>114685759Define making it. She can definitely live well, but that's what you meant, but like other ex-Holo, she isn't reaching the top of VTubing world where she once was as a Holo anymore.IMO, the only ex-Holo who has a chance to make it (get to the top) was notChloe, but then apparently she or her partner's health issue raised its ugly head so that put a damper on their progress...
>>114685742Lately, not getting things, is a Kiara-exclusive thing because most of the others are still getting theirs.What's likelier is that a line was drawn in the sand, and Kiara chose otherwise.We will see the big picture, and it'll again reveal that Kiara chose wrong.
>>114685796>she isn't reaching the top of VTubing world where she once was as a Holo anymore.Kiara is the fucking runt of HoloEN she's not the top
>>114685795>Doob and Nimi retained their audience Might be the stupidest post I've ever read.
>>114685795not Nimi, and most certainly not after July 21st, 2025.
>>114685795>Sakuna went from 15-20K+ average CCV to 8-10K >Nimi went from 9-10K average CCV to 4-5K That's not "most". That's half at best
>>114685811>>114685814Dooby retained her small audienceNimi retained her audience until she got marriedSakuna isn't EN
>>114685807Like RBC is at the top of JP VTubing world, even the runt of HoloEN is also at the top of EN VTubing world
>>114685760I think that in itself is interesting. HoloID clearly saw losing the HoloID label as a big loss but I guess there wasn't the same unified sentiment among the ENs. Probably because ID has more unity and did more stuff together while EN only does stuff in gens (just Advent, really) or existing pairings.
>>114685804>Kiara exclusive>Myth is not getting an anni merch
>>114685837because ID has an ethnic identity, EN is just more or less speak the same language
>Remain Hololive and still reap your rewards, but shed internal division>Remain HoloEN, because Muh prestige.Wow, the Phoenix REALLY IS a birdbrain.
>>114685759Those cucks number below 3 digits and her content will just be even more complainslop instead of focusing on content, unless somehow going indie makes her lock the fuck in (unlikely)that being said donos and merch go a LONG way, she could prob make enough money even as a low-low 3view, that's just how profitable steaming is. there's streamers that live off 200 viewers + hellofresh sponsorships lmao
>>114685791They didn't care. It doesn't affect them so they were mainly cumming over Sora's new look.
>>114685839Anon, It is philosophically bad to make merch of Myth as a Trio.
>>114685731They will attend next years Holofest in the West
>>114685759Hello cuck
No matter what happens, I cannot give up so I can eventually see the light at the end of the tunnel.
>>114685740>throw your genmates under the busBut there are no more gens or genmates, everyone is hololive
>Kiara is melting down because she bet on the wrong thing (Indie concert with Nimi)
>>114685868>hellofreshAIEEEEE NOT THE WORDS
>>114685865She doesnt get the fact that Yagoo did this to help EN and ID to get more support as much as the JP gets
>>114685790>>114685814They lost the cover bots that's all, they know they were botted to shit in Hololive so they don't care about losing all them bots. Same with Gura who fell from 30k down to 20k>>114685796If Cover Corp's money problems are as severe as some speculate they are, WeatherPlanet will outlast Hololive. Also she gets sick around the end of summer every year it's no big deal, just change in weather I guess.Also Ironmouse/Sameko Saba is the top of the vtubing world in the west, not HoloEN
>>114685919>If Cover Corp's money problems are as severe as some speculate they are,why would they have money problems
>>114685919stfu DrawItThicc I'm tired of your larp
>>114685919Obviously, you're a retard, Donie.
>>114685924>t. forgot HoloEarth's losses are killing the company and making them prune off holostars
Where did the rrat about Cover having money problems came fromI swear it's among top 5 most retarded narratives I've read here
>>114685919>Cover's money problemsTheir financial reports are all public
>>114685927https://x.com/DrawItThicc/status/2096821280041545999He was right thoughHe predicted the merge
>holoturds laugh at skyline not selling out>now irys can't sell out her concert either despite even doing it in tokyolmaoooo karma?
>>114685930>>114685927I'm neither of those 2 twats, I'm just being a realist based on what I'm seeing being discussed
>>114685910>muh magic support that will definitely happen, totally
>>114685940Sisters (homo and Niji). One group is trying to claim that this was the same as homo's defunding, while the other is saying that this merge was a cost cutting decision like how Niji cut off their ID+KR branches.
>>114685947the fuck? IRyS is not selling out?
>>114685953youre projecting your life arent you?
>>114685947She sold out in just an hour, though?>But EN ticketsWait a few days and they will open it up for JP
>>114685940Like I said, even calling this a merge is the result of Niji projection.A merge happens when two companies combine assets. It's a take-over if it's a forced absorption, if it's just moving people around, it's called a restructuring.
>>114685959Yes. For some reasons, they are limiting amount of tickets JP can buy which lead to JP site S/O everything shortly after the general sales started, but EN still has S and A seats left
>>114685919How do you explain skyline serenade having to hand out tickets?Cover filling their concerts with literal robots?
menhera jailbirds...
>>114685563this is why I see this as a major win
>>114685919>If Cover Corp's money problems are as severe as some speculate they areThe money problems that don't exist according to their public financial reports that they have to make public as a public company?
so what will the anime be about? lovelive shit?
>>114685604LMAO
>>114685947what a hopeless woman, she needs a good providing husband(white)
>>114685989Of course, Jailbirds are part KFP.
>>114685959>>114685965General sales opened up a few days ago and there are still tickets for sale.
>vshojo reject chiming inkek
>>114685989I might be biased, but are people outside of here really so sensitive about slurs? Like do niggas really gonna cry if I call them a faggot?
>this thread wants Kiara, middle management and ID gone>Get what they want >Cry about it
>>114686007that is grim
>>114685604
what's our current cope, fellow holoCHADS
>>114685995Last year they said nothing about losing money on Holoearth, this year it suddenly came out that they sank $20 million into Holoearth and they had to shut down. Next year they could reveal they've been sinking millions into something that isn't paying off and will need to be shut down, could be anything, maybe even a branch...
This is the dark age of hololive
>>114686035sorry I joined the doomGOD camp
>>114683793your DEI ends today nigger
>>114686041>I have no idea how public companies work and get all my info from retarda on this board
>>114686035kronii is safe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UziuKtA71I>damage control stream>already full of chat asking about holostars, about EN/ID/DEV_IS being sidelined, about cover losing money on holoearthkek
>>114686009Chattini, deal with your kinhttps://x.com/raorapanthera/status/2097185797636272327
>>114685823still not "most" like you originally claimed, anon.
>>114685987>skyline serenadeneither Ironmouse nor Saba were in Skyline Serenade, those are the top western vtubers I mentioned. Had they been there you know that concert would have sold 2k+ tickets no problem
>>114686058fubuki always takes the toughest assignment
>>114685989Hope he kill himself
>>114686068Never reply to me ever again retard
>>114686068Wasn't IM struggling to sell 500 tickets earlier this year? Or was it 1K?
Hololive, no no no...1. HoloEN deleted = almost no more EN Gens, no full 5 EN talents ever. 0 - 2 EN if lucky. 3 - 4 JP consistently Why? Main branch, home court advantage. Most likely will be EN/JP bilingual who sees themselves as JP > EN, to appease the JP fans who financially carry the JP company. No more real EN talent, only pretend EN. More spoken Japanese, barely any English from bilingual talent. 2. 50% of active HoloEN speak Japanese (8/15 members: [1] Calli, Kiara, Ina; [2] Bae, Irys, Kronii; [3] Fuwawa, Mococo, Shiori...?), meaning they can switch to speaking mainly Japanese now since most of them identity as JP instead of EN (Ina lives in Japan?), now that they're in the official Hololive (HoloJP) branch now. No more Honorary JP Bae. Full JP Bae. No more English identity = English not important anymore = less spoken EN = more JP content + quality of life at cost of EN fanbase3. Hololive tried to rig and set up the EN branch to be a 2nd JP branch with 50% fluent in JP, including [2] Sana. Amazing they kept their EN identity these past 6 years and mainly spoke EN in the streams on daily basis, and not cater to an audience who don't speak EN. Hololive rigged and set up the HoloID to be a 2nd EN branch (ALL 9 ID talents speak fluent EN). Loss of ID identity from the very beginning (Kaela, Zeta, Reine pretty much EN talents). HoloID bros who don't understand English cannot understand their own HoloID members... Why speak ID when I get big $ USD money? Main language in HoloID should be Indonesian, not English!4. More JP bros in the EN chat = EN talent will speak more Japanese and LESS English. More unnecessary language barriers: 漢字嫌悪漢字嫌味チズ好き 5. More EN bros in the JP chat = JP talent will NOT have to speak English, nor less Japanese. Why? JP talents are part of the main Hololive branch (HoloJP). The main language in a HoloJP branch is Japanese, NOT ENGLISH NOR INDONESIAN! This is why EN identity is important, so you know what you will get! Main language in HoloEN is English. No more EN identity = EN dead. No more and much less EN. Not priority. 6. Lots of language barriers because of cross collabs (JP Ark Collab), and loss of EN language identity = EN fans slowly leaving. Or Bae speaking 4 hours (2 hours in Japanese, 2 hours in English in a U.S. Time Zone 5 P.M. PST). So you must use 2 hours of your day to wait, if u EN only. 4 hours total to hear repeated info twice, if u bilingual. Not good use of fan free time: 24 hours - 8h school/work - 7h sleep - 1h meal - 1h commute - 2h homework = 5h free - 2h Bae wait - 2h finally wtf = 1h free free!!!. People short attention span, like TikTok. People click off video if no understand instantly. Most EN fans came to watch English vtubers, not JP vtubers. Pekora gets $0 USD superchats in her streams and she is generational talent (Gura / CaseOh level) on JP side, on biggest EN video platform YouTube (U.S. based) on planet with loads of clips of her translated in EN. And #1 GDP (US), still gets $0 USD. Pain Peko. 7. EN talents who identity as true JP: Bae, Irys, Fuwawa, Mococo, Kiara. They most likely to give up on the EN fans and switch to JP, because that's their manifest destiny (JP background, JP idols, JP obsession). English not important anymore. Besides, Japanese language (6,000 words, 2,136 kanji characters, 20,000 kanji daily pronunciations) is 3 - 4x harder than English (6,000 words, 26 letters). Hearing how Kiara learned JP, you must immigrate to Japan for years. (English you can likely learn with next door neighbor; global language). All that effort to learn Japanese, only to be English talent in the end?! Their first choice is to be a JP talent, not EN! Bau Bau? No! It's ばうばう!Deletion of a culture & identity not good. If roles reversed, EN main, JP branch deleted = JP fans happy?! Well, maybe... they're introverts: outside happy, inside pain...If you like your home, defend it!
>>114686055>I totally knew Cover was wasting $20 millions on Holoearth since 2 years ago and I can totally tell you right now they're not wasting millions into anything else so there will totally not be any big money loss revelations next year.
>>114686075Sooooooooooooo empty
>>114686035as a ruffGOD i'm having fun doompost is meta rnwait for tumor threads for me to switch sides
>>114686075It's a decent stage set up by an indie without the backing of a billion dollar corpo, what's the issue.>>114686079I don't know, I know last year she did an event that Mori and Nerissa in it, not sure what that ended doing money wise
>>114686099Don't make me post pictures of every IM concert ever because she has never managed to fill any venue and all of them had less than 500 seats
>>114686110at least you get to use UO there unlike the sterile boring hololame concerts
