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>>114681665They have collabed 1 on 1 once all throughout 2026...
>>114681688they also didn't hang out at all at serendipity
>>114681653Can she piss in Kiara's mouth to calm her down?
Kiara and Myth made their bed by letting Ame and Gura leave, they have no right to complain. Which is why Ina and Mori's reactions are the right ones.
>>114681751>by letting Ame and Gura leaveYou wanted them to force Ame and Gura's corpse to stay?
>>114681779No, ideally, you could've not let them rot in the first place.
>>114681741kiara's problem is she's built tolerance to her antidepressants and she's having a woman momentshe would have been upset and lashing out at anything
https://x.com/rinkouashelia/status/2097147979627139202https://x.com/AmanogawaShiina/status/2097165476539625747Seriously what caused phase to have the worst fans in vtubing by far? Needing 3 talents to have to tell you to shut the fuck up is just embarrassing.
Chumbuds and Teammates blaming the other Myth members for their lazy oshi’s actions and quitting again figures
this one because the subject is actually correct
>>114681675IRyS sexo
>>114681812They were rotting because they were lazy
>>114681848Fishman paying off dramaniggers to ignore Phase and only take the piss on hololive is what made phase fans so toxic towards anyone not phase or chud enough. They literally built the bed they are laying in and should accept their fanbase will not be welcomed by anyone.
>>114681848Sooner or later they were going to realize that their fans are either pretending to be holofans or are just act disgusting whenever the company with a blue triangle does something
>>114681848>Seriously what caused phase to have the worst fans in vtubing by far?Pippa /pol/ grifting
>>114681848blame pippa building the fanbase from farmfags and shartys
>>114681824mostly true but needs an N/A category for members without fanbases like ERB and Raora
>>114681950>Fishman paying off dramaniggers to ignore PhaseYour understanding of how the world works comes from anime
>>114682025Why are dramatubers mods in phase chats?
the day i see a en-gen or a few only en members do a full jp speaking collab, and not as a joke, it will be over for me
>>114682043The idea that anyone who runs a vtuber company would be paying off dramatubers to do anything is so cringe and ridiculous that I hope you're underage
>>114682093Cover does it too. And that was when they were still smarru indie tech campanyIchikara also the sameit's standard procedure
>>114682092FWMC?
>>114682121their streams dont count as a collab and two is not a few
>>114682120No they don'tDramatubers don't mean anythingThe most they'll do is sue doxxers
>>114681675Ew
>>114682093>paying urinalists off is ridiculous>you're underagepottery, funniest post in the last 24 hours
>>114681848>fansJust because they @ someone doesn't make them a fan
>>114682093We have a Discordraid server dedicated to drama, posting shitposts and running raids with bait threads almost 24/7 in this board, don't come at us with that "something is impossible" nonsense.
>>114682093Gunrun literally paid browns to shitpost /here/ so vtuber company owners are indeed retarded sometimes when they really want a win
>>114682093>what was VShojo>what are dramatubersraidchama...at least earn your paycheck
>>114682160Dramatubers do not affect vtuber's bottom line in any way, these people have no influence>>114682192>>114682266Gunrun didn't pay anyone to shitpost here he did it himself
Today, I will remind them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80KnTZrE510
>>114682343>Dramatubers do not affect vtuber's bottom line in any way, these people have no influenceThat isn't the argument you retard. Stop posting.
>>114682684Journalists only get paid off if they have influencePeople who make videos about vtuber drama have no influenceThe most they'll do is make individual vtubers mad
>>114682711dramaniggers literally get 10x the views phase does
I think EN/ID members should do an ELM/ILM campaign with a few seconds of kneeling before their streams
>>114682735And?
>>114682092IRyS-Flare monthly Splatoon collabs? (If Flare managed to convince IRyS to put her PoV up)
>>114682770 (Me)Nvm, you said *only* EN (which I assume would rule out IRyS, but if that was the case, so shouldn't FWMC)
>>114682759They have more influence than phase, hence why they're mods in phase whore chats.
>>114682790is there a irys-fwmc jp collab?
>>114682808Nothing a dramatuber has ever said or done has had any noticable impact on a vtubers bottom line
>>114682093>The idea that anyone who runs a vtuber company would be paying off dramatuberAs confirmed by Veibae, with VShojo COO paying people to shitpost here. It’s not a stretch to assume they would also target dramatubers
>>114682829Again that's not the argument dumbass, also proof?
>>114682878Can you read? THe VShojo COO was doing it himself, he wasn't paying anyone
>>114682827There isn't an IRyS-FWMC collab of any form
>>114682940wow didnt know that
>>114682930If dramatubers have no tangible effect on anything there's no reason they would get paid offThrough all the scandals and dramas vtubers have been through, have you ever seen a dramatuber actually have any effect? I haven't
>>114681675>not KiaraBased
>>114681824>IRyStocrats not full schizoshit
>>114682940>>114682950irys has thrown shade at fuwamoco several times
>>114683221what's worrying is IRyS has had a perfect read on girls>best Myth friend is Mori and very close with Ina>no solo collabs with Gura ever, almost no collabs with Ame, only collabed with Kiara if Mori was there>best Promise friends are Bae and Kronii>a single collab with Mumei, two or three collabs with Faunawhat does she know? why doesn't she collab with FWMC?
>>114683362she made fun of them for their weird tastes in food
>>114683362Nobody can be friends with those fake whore dogs
Why are shitposters so blatant these days? They used to stay in vt but now they shitpost in public where the girls can see
>>114683620Because vt is dead they need a new audience to annoy and they get banned off tower and reddit, so trolling Twitter sisters is the new hotness.
>>114683362irys knows who will quit :O
>>114681688They were in voice chat together literally within the last week
>>114683620Because they feel the need to stop Hololive they can no longer do so they will be sued
Why are you guys always so negative and complaining? Holotower posters are feeling optimistic.
People are giving away Suisei concert tickets on discord cause they won't sell
>>114683931*Holotower posters are coping
https://x.com/jurardtrexford/status/2097048812103803159>Throughout the time I’ve been working here and as a fan of the company, a lot of things definitely changed my views ln things. Keep supporting the talents everybody. Coz God only knows whats gonna happen in the next 10 more years.
>>114683931thats because they drove out kfp already, whereas kfp run /#/
Why did they do this merger shitIt makes no sense whatsoever
>>114681675Someone explain to me what this "merger" actually does. Does it change anything?
>>114684177holoEN is dead and so holoEN will not get branch-specific events any more. that's about it. basically the next "EN" event will have JP/ID girls, in theory. but it may mean EN girls will be in more stuff if they can speak japanese.
>>114684177>lil pup doesn't realize he will be losing en streams to jp chads
>>114684177it's a nothingburger
>>114684725I don't watch vtubers anymore and haven't for a while. Even back when I did watch them I mostly watched the jp ones. I'm only back here because I saw some announcement and /jp/ is dead but also /vt/ is dead. I might have to try tower I guess (gross).
https://x.com/ASOBIMAWARITAI/status/2097210829376499886
https://x.com/tako_yuuuuki/status/2093594960977355044
>>114684852so they are mekpark'ers too huh?
day two of lolling at holoen fucking dying before nijien
It's truly over... phase won... niji won... Hololive lost... by next year EN and ID will graduate, and there will be no one caring about Hololive outside of JP anymore...
TVA and kiwifags are acting like they're the victims this time because their oshis are calling them out
DoomGODS won
>>114681848lmao now they're innocent huh
>>114686067>TVAThe group from Loki?
this is the sexiest pairing in hololive
>She outlasted HoloENkek....
>who wonJP-only racistsCover bootlickersFagoo anus tonguers>who lostpeople who hate having JP in EN livespeople who hate EN singing JP songspeople who hate JP having a 3D studio just for them in Japan while EN has no studiopeople who hate holoX for getting everything while Promise got nothingpeople who hate gen 5 for getting everything while Myth got nothing
>>114686164>Month 7 of no streams
>>114686164bruh you know much chaos there would be if Saba suddenly came back this week
Holodori devs are going to have so much stuff to fix
Autofister nation will never kneel to your jap corposlop
only bad thing about the merger is that we potentially don't get EN5 or its equivalent anymore
>>114686199KEKThe girls are grouped by jp, en and id so they'd have to remove that grouping too
>>114686154The vtuber asylum, another Phase den
>>114686190Saba orchestrated the merger
>>114686200"I'm going to...undo your bed."Ceci: "Mhm."Gigi: "See that you enter..."Ceci: "Okay, I'm...entering."
>>114686200autofister nation don't care about the merge
>>114682878niji also hires troll farms to disrupt vtuber discourse at the internet, so i'm not surprised
>>114686166>people who hate EN singing JP songsthis is retarded.you're retarded.you're whole list is retarded.kill yourself.
>>114686246that's like 90% of towa tho lmaothey want en songs
>>114686261Based, all jap trash should die
>>114684177>no more EN concerts>maybe faster game perms?
>>114686261then tell your oshi to make songs in English?oh wait, their oshi likes to sing in Japanese though...who's fault is that?because Cover ain't gonna pay (x) amount of money for an English cover.
>>114686201If we're being realistic EN5 was never happening and I've been saying that for over a year. Justice flopped too hard.
>>114686293tell that to the towerfaggotsI like JP music
>>114684635HoloEN fans used to hate this faggot. Now they’re enabling him. No wonder EN is dying. Hopefully the EN faggots leave like the homobeggars.
>>114686190>ifPOTENTIAL VTUBER STRIKES AGAIN
もうあたしの英語版「Bad Apple!」のカバーは聴いてくれたかしら? でも、なんと54%以上の方が、まだあたしのYouTubeを登録してくださっていないみたいなの。気に入ってくれたなら、ぜひチャンネル登録してね。これから投稿するカバーも、ぜひ聴いてほしいわ
All those "EN5 soontm" hype posts for nothingAll that "Skibidy sold well, so they'll do another concert" posts for nothingIt's all over, enjoy Meloco 2.0 and Meloco 3.0
Foobs is a transformer!
>>114686315You really need to stop fooling yourself, Jurard. You and your friends are done for, there won't be a merger for you guys just downsizing
>>114686335I smell projectors, lots of them
>>114686234
>107 posts in 4h30mDid the merger kill /#/? KEKYPOO rest in piss retards
>>114675455it's not explicitly based on anyone specific; the algorithm tries to place every circle optimally with respect to their connections and collabs, and biboo/mori almost always end up in the centre as they have the most connections
Jaime Paige?The same nigga that made the Gigi song?Gigi is tapped into nijien?
>>114686358>8hr replyKYS
>>114686358Wait I posted that 13h ago? goshBut thanks anon I thought it was based on one girls
>https://youtu.be/JfT3IgxyeVU?si=vbde368KE9BZPZbwEssentially what is happening.
we are so back bros
>>114686367 (me)8h not 13...
>>114686347they probably smell like plastic and electronics
>>114686363Well I mean......
>>114681848Phase acting innocent but we all know all the dramafagging comes from them
>>114686373Towanon was right, without Hololive, this board is doomed
oh shit he's back? didnt he say fuck your company and peace out half a year ago?
>>114686350not even the Asobi debuts would fucking save this dying board lmao
foobs was talking about EN & ID but I can't speak JP so I don't understand shit
>>114681675Actual previous: >>114681628>>114686350recycled thread
Why are IDs all acting pissy? Isnt this basically a lifeline for them? Also you'd think cover would have given them the rundown about this so they didnt have public freakouts like this
EN5 never everLast English holo was JusticeTotal /jp/ domination
Fuwamoco are currently thanking the spirit of emperor hirohito for bringing them the hololive merger and they're now wishing death upon the western world and the rebirth of the glorious japanese empire. They will eventually decapitate all the remaining english speakers within hololive and offer their remains to the general japanese public for consumption and/or desecration.
Matsuri been previewing the merger for months and we didn't notice! She's now the official event organizer for ID+EN+JPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUnKfpL-OuAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGsgS1NTJQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhaWvzgi9zQ
>>114686358what site is this
>>114686421a country without a cultural identity would never understand why ID values their identity.
Yagoo is my super positive funny chungus friend though, he's not like other CEO's I swear
>>114681848So does this mean Phase Connect bros are our allies now?
>>114686364I sleep sometimes>>114686432https://charts.vtaac.workers.dev/charts/group-collabs?c=hololive-en
>>114686435so it's just brown patriotic bullshit? ID truly is worthless then
>>114686456amerimutt please
>>114683620/vt/ is an echochamber of schizos, they get banned on towa, so the only way to get a legitimate response from people is twitter.
>>114681848They saw this and got worried the Holofanbase was gonna start attacking Phasers
>>114686475>NOOOOOO MY HUGBOX
>>114686373>the literal death of HoloEN could only bring us to 40kWhat a fall from grace
EN twitter isn't gonna like what FBK is saying ngl
BASED GREMCHAD WITH THE TRUTHNUKEFuwamoco et al.. should be called out for their selfish Meloco bullshit
My soggy doggy in fuwawa's fuwawas.
>>114686226KEK
>>114686483look at the other threads and the catalog and then tell me I'm wrong
>>114686494jap company. assimilate or fuck off!
>>114686511soggy swimsuit paizuri
>>114686421People will say it’s stupid cultural identity bullshit but the reality is that the IDs have had way more freedoms because of how small and irrelevant they were as a side branch and now they may see restrictions on the stupid shit they used to get away with so they are throwing out hissy fits over it.
>>114686484>the literal death of HoloENalso ID,JP and devis
What's the latest on the ex largest EN chuuba company?
>>114686494Qrd?
Fubuki is being extremely aggressive right now. Hey Rima or some dramafag clipper if you want to make a lot of people mad this stream will do it.
Damn parrot nigga uploaded a new vid while holoen was collapsing
Friend thinks the company name is more important than subdivisions like EN ID and she is surprised to see so much complaining. She does say cover should have made it clearer what was changing
>>114686518yeah we love the wholesome chungus yagoo and holo, we're all a big familyhopefully Ollie is gonna collab with FWMC now that they are part of the same branch, maybe invite the bois
It's time to clean house
>>114686546>company before anything elsenot surprised
>>114686535>>114686546she's a major shareholder in Cover, of course she's going to react negatively on the complainers.
>>114686421Because this guy is basically right >>114686009 ID knows they're fucked cause they lost all their managers and are now in HomoStars status, they gotta fend for themselves and use their own earnings to hire staff and get things done.
>>114686546>Upper management herself thinks the company should get full priority instead of the prolesHold the presses!
>>114686546>retard that's not affected doesn't understand what the issue ismany such cases
>the Dodgers collab was actually Hololive's Spirits Within
>>114686494qrd?
>>114686541Nijisanji EN still exists so I mean....
>TL: Kaifaggots should stop bothering us. Kaifaggot? Am I using the word right? You wanted me to speak English, right? That's English for youWow, FBK, are you sure you are allowed say that?
>>114686546>She does say cover should have made it clearer what was changingThis is what makes all the shitposting here and bitching on twitter so stupid. They really didn't say anything apart from logo change and branch name distinctions disappearing.
https://x.com/oozorasubaru/status/2097254593923326366uh oh holos are dropping like flies now
>>114686511CUTE
>>114686541>parrotCamilo Caipedo
hololive > side branchassimilate or fuck off
the rrats are getting too strong...
Friend said phasefags should stop harassing Kiara. This is why y’all need to learn Niponese
>>114686576and those bitching are affected in what way? they keep saying they are upset but not why they are upset
>>114686549>Proving him rightkek you guys aren't that bright huh
>>114686596Because there will be change, bitch is just lying. Whether it's bad or not, time will only tell. They think Cover would took the time to overhaul their vary talent hierarchy just on a whim? The fans are not fucking stupid
>>114686623>no more EN concerts>WHY ARE YOU UPSET
>defends cover
Which ENs are confirmed committed to Japan?Confirmed: IRyS, Bae, Mori, Ina, Raora, Biboo, FWMC, Gigi, CC, Nerissa, Kronii (?)Confirmed not Japan: ERB, Kiara, Shiori
Fubuki is talking about Dubai but I don't understand japanese
>>114686623>Let me just say NDA stuff and let me get suspended and have the antis swarm meOh yeah bright idea there bub
>>114686535the Cover bootlicker Yura would have a field day with that clip and will spin it as something positive for everyone
>>114686621Phasefags dont care about Kiara, they are just happy she snaked Clara back in the day.
>>114686639rule #1 of hololive: always trust friend
>>114686648>instead i will keep bitching and moaning and let people speculate yeah that's so much better
She's talking about Mekpark now I still don't understand japanese
Cover needs to make the girl's contract renewals/non renewals public like sports do it. That way we know who renews and who doesn't and we're not left in the dark wondering until we get a sudden out of nowhere surprise "important announcement" stream
holy bootlicker, she's practically deepthroating that boot, almost got the top shoelace in her mouth
>>114686656>they are just happy she snaked Clara back in the day.wait what? what's the story on this?
>>114686665she's using food analogiesshe's saying they're a different menu
>>114686643Gigi, CC, Kronii are not confirmedRaora is not technically confirmed but she's already living in Japan so I like her odds thereIna isn't technically confirmed either but she'll keep moving back and forth to and from Japan with no issueThe rest is correct
>>114686672not now retard we're busy with future Cover CEO Fubuki
>>114686679They taste like pizza with Mayonaise
>>114686643>ENsWho??????
>>114686687Ina goes to Japan for long periods of time every year she might as well live there
>>114686694MythPromiseAdventJusticebetter?
>>114686694mainly english speaking hololive members sorry
>>114686643Kronii and CC are taking trips to Japan but not confirmed to be moving there (probably going to record their graduation lives) ERB is likely not moving to Japan, Shiori might do it to stay with the Homos, Kiara is gone, GG is up in the air
>>114686651Yura only clips Suisei and Ui
>this is the future Yagoo wants>you WILL become a truck
https://x.com/Murahochaaaaan/status/2097222169134796925https://x.com/aaaremomi/status/2097232570551550182https://x.com/dragonsmatsu/status/2097226636576031111come to Japan bros
>>114686646
>>114686703Kek caught me off guard multiple times
>>114686710HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHATHD
>>114686707floods in China are worse and more catastrophic with infrastructure failing due to shoddy construction
>>114686397Why do these people think it's a downsizing when it's explicitly not?
>>114686679>she's using food analogiesShe truly loves American culture...Fubuki come to EN
>EN expands through Europe>gets killedMaybe don't expand through Europe and expect anything positive.
did we talk about this?
>>114686730should've recruited more NA members to get more Faunas and Mumeis
living in Japan seems boring unless you're a weeb or something.like none of the EN holos travel through Japan to go hokkaido or go on those expensive exclusive train rides.like shit, do they know anything outside of Tokyo and Kyoto?
>>114686730It's confirmed that trying to pander to Europe killed HoloEN and made Cover give up on the entire Europe market. I can't believe they were more worthless than SEA in the end
>>114686718holoPRO doesn't exist anymore, which means they are now officially off-topic on the sub, which means I can freely report their posts over there
>>114686730>expands through EuropeBy doing nothing but having concert rescreens?
>>114686739>Faunasyuck
>>114686740>like none of the EN holos travel through Japan to go hokkaido or go on those expensive exclusive train rides.ahahahaha retard!
>>114686740>none of ENBiboo did
>>114686740I mean from my eyes, America is the most boring country on Earth, literally nothing to do there except stuff your mouth with fast food
>>114686674Pre vtuber days. They were on the same idol circuit
>>114686531>>114686584>she thinks it's regrettable that the official program didn't explicitly say what changes and what doesnt when announcing something new.>holostars and mekpark isn't hololive so please stop talking as if it is>there are a lot of projects, events, and sponsors that are jp-centric or en-centric, so removing that wall is a good thing>if you have the time to complain about mekpark not debuting yet, then use that time to actually watch and support them first>she doesn't get or like branch tribalfagging>if hololive is a ramen shop, holostars is a curry shop, and mekpark is a farmAnd this is me already softening what she actually says so that people don't attack her
>>114686740Stupid post.There's tons of fun stuff to do in Japan but none of these girls do it because they all want to stay in Tokyo or just play games in their room all day lol
>Fubuki say Holostars is excluded Total homo death
>fubuki explaining it as an animal farm uh, you don't wanna go there with the everyone is equal but some are more equal quote
Haaton bro is she back?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYLnktu3OPU
https://youtu.be/0wO8d70KSXw>This kino will never be performed again since EN concerts are just FES lite now with J*panese members joining in en masse
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3VK1rzC-Fg8Oh she's mad
When does watching streamers behind anime avatars play games/sing become so complicated bros..
>>114686738Yeah, theyre exciting with holo merger
>>114686759>if you have the time to complain about mekpark not debuting yet, then use that time to actually watch and support them firstBased
>>114686084Hololive already made all the money they lost on Holoearth back with Holodori. The game is doing crazy good and exceeding everybody's expectations.
>>114686759>mekpark isn't hololiveBrutal. I still don't get what their point is if they're going to debut real holos anyway.The rest seems fine, what did you soften? Just her tone I guess?
>>114686718>conditioning us to see stars as part of HololiveHoly fuck they really are pulling a Nijisanji and merging ALL the branches into one...
>>114686755I do not disagree with you.I do not get the hype of going to the US.I swear everyone in my country wants to go to the US.we consume so much American media that it already feels like we been there and lived there so I never got that urge other people get.I wanna go to Europe though.
>>114686759>there are a lot of projects, events, and sponsors that are jp-centric or en-centric, so removing that wall is a good thingI would imagine that the reason they were centralized to one branch in the first place was the language barrier, which this merge doesn't solve.Everything else is not news
>>114686769>censoring Japanesekill yourself
>>114686788I mean do you consider Anycolor's VTA as Nijisanji? I sure am don't.
>>114686787next cope: Qualiarts take 99.99% of the revenue
>>114686740our knowledge of Japan is only limited to Tokyo and maybe Kyoto. it's like foreign vloggers claiming Philippines is a beautiful country because they only visited Bonifacio Global City
>>114686804The thing is that no one gives a fuck about VTA so if they expect anyone to care about Mekpark before they debut then the entire project is doomed to fail and they should just get on with it.
>>114686767>HaachamaReturning from the mental asylum>KiaraAbout to enter the mental asylum
>>114686800the thing is why would you want to sponsor someone like IRyS when someone like FBK or Korone is infinitely more profitable and will give more returns as 99% of their fans are already in Japan, while the IRyS' is 20% Japanese at most
>>114686787I think with Serendipity not performing as expected and Holodori popping off in their domestic market, Cover might have realized where their true priorities are and decided to pivot their resources back into their domestic market cutting losses Overseas after ID has been on life support mode and NA facing difficulties due to tariffs
>>114686315The subreddit is so obviously raided
>>114686759>mekpark isn't hololiveDamn... Mira-chan...>holostars isn't hololiveLET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>114686788Cover already talk about it on their shareholder's meetings.It's a program to both train talents and producers. From what it looks like, unit-B have inexperienced talents while achrora have inexperienced producer
>>114686759Lmao the bitch is just butthurt Gura beat her to 1M, she never got over it
>>114686810This post was made with filthy southerner flip hands.
>>114686819So what would this merge solve? Sponsors would still choose fbk/korone over IRyS
>>114686829Just need to clip the 2nd part and you'll get 100k views in a hot minute
>>114686787Holy shit I haven't seen this before. Those are some pretty big fucking games that it is ranking higher than. Very impressive.
>>114686797America's national parks are cool.The cities can't compare to the ones in Europe or Asia though.
>>114686759>there are a lot of projects, events, and sponsors that are jp-centric or en-centric, so removing that wall is a good thingyeah right as if anything is gonna change in this regard lol
>>114686817
>>114686787The money split in Holodori with JP vs Global revenu probably helped them realize that EN was a dead branch.
>>114686854>this picwho would be the dictator of hololive?
>>114686851so the 5th HoloEN concert can still happen :^)
fubuki said fuck ID, if they dont wanna become part of hololive they can quit
>>114686841That's why it's so weird, atlesdt with the split you can say sponsors can approach EN talents so they can attract the western paying audience. Now it'll just go through big management first and they'll go "you want Biboo? Why not go with Laplus, she has amazing reach for things like this for the JP audiences" etc,
>>114686759>there are a lot of projects, events, and sponsors that are jp-centric or en-centric, so removing that wall is a good thingso HoloReco will be a mix of all 3 branches instead next year and Gonathan won't be the main ch no more cause the larger JPs will outshine him. Or maybe Reco just gets axed all together and Peko/Miko replace it with some other event
>>114686826I mean Starmin are Holoanti
>>114686883Gonathan hasn't been a big deal since S1 bro
>>114686877All I'm witnessing in this stream is how she loves capeshit
>>114686841they can bundle them with irys>you can pay $10k for Korone but add another $5k and you'd also get IRyS, Iofi, and Ollie! That's almost 3x the total subs count for 50% more!
>>114686875sure, in japan :)
>>114686873Fubuki the chief of HolO.N.IOh she's talking about Peter Parker and MJ now
>>114686755America has no cultural identity, that's why even their parks feel boring. at least on Asia and Europe you get to witness their culture which makes visiting there worth it.
>>114686873Fubuki, obviously. FubuKINGDOM, remember?
>>114686865It still made about 4 million of that from Global which is still impressive. Every gacha game does better in Japan. This isn't a Hololive specific phenomenon.
>>114686898yes! japan is easier to get to than burgerland for me anyway
>>114686896JP sponsors are literally not interested in EN people
>>114686893Gonathan is the only person people watched EnReco for
>>114686883None of the JP girls have good enough English to join something like enreco, what you'd get is more ID there.
>>114686896You say that as if Cover couldn't do that pre-merge
>>114686875It's gonna be a mixed concert though with JPs, ENs and IDs. It you think Serendipity is already underperforming, see what happens when people see their EN oshi isn't performing at the fucking western concert for some godforsaken reason
>>114686909ALL HAIL FUBUKINGDOM, ALL HAIL COVER CORPORATION KEK
yab fubuki is spoiling the new spiderman
>>114686890They always go for the most extreme and negative narration and when someone provides a more plausible explanation they just lash out
>>114686919>see what happens when people see their EN oshi isn't performing at the fucking western concert for some godforsaken reasonI'm certain that if Fauna and Gura had the option of not performing at the EN concerts they would've taken it
>>114686755>>114686797>>114686907fucking faggots, everyone who came here for the world cup felt ashamed of going back to their shitty Yuro and Chink countries when it was over
>>114686912Yes and every gacha game panders hard to their JP/China fanbase while ignoring global because they are irrelevant while being annoyingly noisy
>>114686906someone's a Halo enjoyer here
>>114686935Yeah, most of their fans are Nijisis, and they hate Hololive
>>114686883Who fucking cares about enreco bro it’s a shitpost-tier event at this point and holo will be better off if it gets permanently canned
>>114686950Haven't some gacha just cut global off because they chimped out over loli designs
>>114686759>if you have the time to complain about holoSTARS death, then use that time to actually watch and support them first
>>114686949>trust me broI only saw europeans laughing at americans
>>114686918they could but they'd have to wait 5 business days for EN management and ID management to sign a form and fax it to them before they can offer that to the potential sponsors.
>>114686953Yeah I grew up playing Halo 2 and 3
>>114686915there have been a bunch of JP companies giving sponsors to EN members
>>114686973>Halo 2based
>>114686959Then what events are the EN girls getting now thanks to the merge? ARK? HoloGTA? you didn't need to merge the branches for that
>>114686969You saw retarded ai videos on twitter then
>>114686973I was literally playing Sins of the Prophets earlier (the Halo mod for Sins of a Solar Empire), and there are lots of O.N.I. shit in that game
Said all of that then proceed to not have EN/Id in the holo anime lol
>holoEN is gone>nijiEN concert when?
>>114686988Nothing but they also weren't getting those events before the merge. You could already see the budget for ENReco Season 3 was reduced compared to the previous season and I can only imagine it'll be even lower for Season 4
>>114686988yeah but if the branches were basically merged already why not make it official and just merge them all and get the benefits others have spoken about
>>114686949>World CupYes I understand what you're saying.American sports culture would be 20x better if euros and Asians were involved thanks for reminding me.>The Face of NBA is a French>The Face of MLB is Japanese>The Face of NHL is Canadianat least you have American football.
>>114686998FiVe yEarS iN ThE MakINg
>>114686919ya the only way it would work if it was moved to taiwan or some other asian country
>>114686991yeah right lmao you're a laughing stock of the whole world amerifat
>>114687011>actually thinking Wemby is anything but a slightly better Bol Bol
>>114686949you saw retarded aislop on twitter
>>114687013>5 years in the making bro trust me>holoX is there and haachama is not? uhhhhhhhhh don't notice!!!!
>>114687010Because sometimes they would want to have EN-only collabs. Now if someone does that, you'll see people asking "why aren't you inviting your japanese/indonesian branchmates?"
>>114686907>American national parks>boringThey're absolutely stunning views of nature, that's only boring if you're retardedHiking the trail is amazing
>>114686983I kind of miss the old Halo...>>114686995I didn't even know about this mod (I'm a consolefag), but I remember that in the novel, Master Chief gets a little scared when he faces the O.N.I.
>>114686988It’s obvious none of the ENs care about events bro who are you trying to fool
>>114687011>>The Face of NBA is a Frenchflopped in the finals, already on fraud watch>>The Face of MLB is Japanesechokes in big games and just got benched because he's slumping hard>>The Face of NHL is Canadian0 stanley cups and captained his team to a loss against the fucking americans
>>114687048There's more of "why aren't you inviting EN/ID" going on all the time tho even when they were separate branches
>>114687049stop pretending you even go outside
>>114687037>Bol BolSounds like a Frieza minion's name
Niji actually won?
>>114687011More like Euro/Asian sports would be better if they were in the U.S more often. Why you think Otani cam here.>>The Face of NBA is a FrenchNigga what? The face of the NBA is still LeBron James lol wtf?Yeah Hockey and Baseball are not as popular as they used to be in the U.S so I guess other countries can take those 2 if they want
By far the best statement I've seen on this and it would have helped if several JPs reiterated this a lot earlier. Especially disappointing that the likes of Miko, Fubuki, and any other prolific "unity" JP Holo didn't chime on earlier to calm everybody down. The idea that JPs will also being strongly encouraged to make some sort of effort to change things and branch out to beyond their own language will take away the bad taste in peoples mouths. What percentage of JPs will actually bother to try remains to be seen though.
>>114687062>he doesn't do oshikatsu on hiking trailsNerd
>>114687059No? Not a single soul asked that for the Big Walk collabs
>>114687075nobody does that here lol
>>114687076>no one begged or complained when EN/ID weren't invited for box eventsyeah okay
How’s your oshi today anons? Mine’s good and will be streaming today. She’ll probably give a statement along the lines of “i dont really give a fuck” like always.
>>114687076not asked but welcomed nontheless, the final hurrah for holoEN
https://www.youtube.com/live/Vxp6wu8cOM4Holox is watching nisemonogatari. Drop by if you want to (potentially) see a naked blonde loli in Youtube by episode 4.
Fubuki is talking about the MCU
>>114687058>flopped in the finals, already on fraud watchgot out played by a better coach and better strategy>chokes in big games and just got benched because he's slumping hardis being rested so he can come back in October >0 stanley cups and captained his team to a loss against the fucking americansthis is true LMAO
I like how EN and ID how axed in a quick successionthe EN's didn't even get to have a collab or celebrate 6th anni lol
>>114687073It's kinda hard not to be cynical when she's being doing all she can to gain popularity (undoubtedly for a Sololive slot), which is not limited to suddenly entertaining the unicorns again and the sudden rush to fill in the gap as the EN-ID-JP coordinator
>>114687086And do you think every JP event going forward will be opened to EN and ID members?
>>114687087kek, don't hold your breath over that. they are probably going to cancel it for girlfriend reasons
holy esl
>>114687073Miko is dying from the lack of sleep (due to her leading role on ARK and sololive prep) and was busy on that day.
>>114687094no thanks>>114687108it's okay, she's gonna do like 2 duolingo streams for the overseas bros!
>>114687073>posts in japanese on a sub accountwow so genuine
>>114687094Wait they are actually showing the thing, nice
>>114687072LeBron is LeOld and will retire soon.he isn't the face of the NBA anymore.you think he's gonna get a proper chance to ring chase with those guys?
The people lapping as Hololive fans do know that they're in a primarily JP-coded hobby, right?
>>114686988>Then what events are the EN girls getting now thanks to the merge?I believe its time, for a Hololive Star Citizen Server to make its debuthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t65JQL7frtE
Thoughts?
>>114687134Philly is going to eat him alive once they go into a losing streak
>>114687139why bother recruiting EN speaking talents then
>>114687111They literally have been for years.
Hey HellDescended I know you're /here/ don't forget about this
>>114687147STAR CITIZEN ANON HOLOLIVE EN AND ID IS KILL DO YOU REALIZE YOUR DREAM IS OVER FOR EVER BECAUSE JP GIRLS WILL NEVER PLAY YOUR GAME
>>114687073The JPs don't understand why ENfags are chimping out over a nothingburger
>>114687139I cant just download the entire Japanese language into my old unmalleable brians to enjoy Japanese streams
>>114687161Oh if he is here he should know mahdeen nigga is Pakistani not Indian there is a difference but call him paki to get reaction else he is gonna ignore you
>>114687169GO FUCK YOURSELF I WILL NEVER GIVE UP HOLOLIVE WILL DISCOVER STAR CITIZEN SOMEDAY
>>114687134Yeah when he retires he won't be the face of the NBA no more, but for now he still is, may not be the best player but he is the best merch seller and everyone knows him. As far as a ring, he'd have to join a team with Steph Curry or Kevin Durant to have a chance
>>114687073Oh wow. It's possible to tweet without being a retard. I didn't know that
>>114687114Get on with the LuKnights program anon. shit’s good.
Isn't the statements made by the girls about hololive merge the same statements they should have been making about AI?Is the difference how trooncoded the artists behave?
>>114687073If they say something, faggots will just shrug it as "Company Mandate Tweet"
>>114687159So again, what's the point of the merge?
>>114687147I think they should play Starfield instead
>>114687000Concert?
>>114687211so people can stop asking for new EN/ID gens or complain about them not being included in something
>>114687208stop noticing
>>114687239I want a new EN/ID (mixed) unit
>>114687211Just pointing out that ENID beggars exist and have existed while you're building up a strawman of JP beggars to argue against the merge.
I'm horny gonna fap to phase porn
>>114687193listen bro, if you bring up this game to a holo their first question would be>isn't that the game that got a billion dollars and still in development?I stopped playing when they pushed back the release of Squadron 42they just gonna drain you fools for money.
>>114687259okay, what's the point of the merge then
>>114687193isn't star citizen a donation embezzlement scam
Are you guys really angry or concern trolling?
Chat is this true? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42PaUWytOq0
>>114687269You Fap to GAYtuber?
>>114687284>Top 10 questions FBK can't answer
One day, we'll all look back and analyze in retrospect how retarded Kiara, Ollie and Iofi were being about the merge
>>114687269Phase porn aka blacked raw
The EOPs and normalfags who loved to shit on EN girls for doing archived karaoke or speaking Japanese are why this is necessary. If you ever complained about a JP hours stream or any JP related content, you are the problem that needed to be solved.
>>114687305Or they were correct and this move is the start of how Cover lost the western vtubing market
>Star CitizenOh yeah SelenStarmin tried to LARP as StarCitizen anon
>>114687312If we're holding everyone by the same standard I'm expecting JP speakers to take English lessons
>>114687305But that's already the opinion I have of those 3
>>114687300neither, just waiting and observing
>>114687312>this is necessaryLULImagine getting butthurt over people complaining that you decide to restructure your entire talent pool
Hololive wonNothing changes for BibooDon't listen to Twitter drama whores like Kiara
>>114687301>Hololive Merger DISASTERnothing happened yet.>Ollie speaks outshe hasn't given a proper statement at all.if saying>I'm upsetis equal to speaking out the holy shit
JP collab arc to kick off the merge? Let's gooooooooooo that's my Money Mori
>>114687340post this on twitter so kiara can see
>>114687340Kekkk
>>114687340>Kiara's tearKekion
Shareholders: look how much money we saved axing starsjp!, can you show us the numbers for HoloEN and HoloID?Yagoo: Wtf bro, they don't exist, all the girls are "hololive" look how much bank they made us!Shareholders: OhYagoo: but i do have these pitiful StarsEN numbers you can look at.Silverlining?
>>114687351watch it be>Mori >Ina >BibooX1000
>>114687326If a JP members chooses of their own accord to do EN content, they are also free to do so. The way you try to force girls to do things your way speaks volumes. EN girls can do EN and JP content, JP girls can do EN and JP content. It’s up to them
>>114687351It would be funny if it's all EN collabs
>>114687340Pebbles... your days are numbered
>>114686787I see...
>>114687284it cuts off homos more and that's all that matters
>>114687284Centralization of the organization. As an example, game perms. Every branch had their own channels to request perms which then only counted for said branch.In theory the merge will now make this process simpler and means the perms count for every Holo member.
>>114687361Stop coping
>>114687208anti-AI bothers me so much because its the opposite of what the industry needs.Soon, every EOP will be able to watch JP streams with perfect subtitles and anyone who speaks against that should be killed
>>114687367I will now watch your collab
>>114687369Correct. So people complaining should not be addressed and there was no need to merge the branches because of it
>>114687373Well she's already participating in the JP pokajan tournament so nope
>>114687381but jobs and such
>>114687394Coal miners and such
>>114687381>every EOP will be able to watch JP streams with perfect subtitlesYou can already do this if you have a decent GPU.
>>114687340I can't wait for kfp to beat you up
>>114687379Are you saying they couldn't give everyone the same perms without killing off holoEN?
>>114687369so what's the point of the merge, again?
>>114687389EN girls were frequently attacked for it. Cover reacted appropriately to protect the members from the normalized hate towards girls who did both
>>114687381Yes this is exactly what we need more brown animals and western mentally ill trannies watching the JP girls
>>114687161Reminds me of when Birdkun got torn apart for implying Miko was pregnant. That is a deep cut for the oldfags in here.
https://x.com/Wawwa_PrincessW/status/2097000575619518506the usual holodrones are yet to try to counter this tweet, I'm noticing
Kiara is right, we should be angrier.
>>114687379>process simplerwishful thinkingnow JP's will blame EN's if they don't get perms for some game
>>114687118Miko is in no state for that anyway when she's already being hounded by her own antis for every little thing. Winning the ark in a tie is still smouldering. It was for the best that she didn't do a stream with it.
>>114682343wasn't vshojo paying some suspicious flip company for PR? You know what that entails.
>>114687419>Kiara is rightSaid no one ever
>>114687412Last I checked western trannies watched Phase and hate hololive and Japan in partricular
>>114687381Train the AI well enough on their old vods to learn who's who and it'll be able to split subtitles during collabs too.
>>114687412well that's what Cover wants, so better get used to that
>>114687427KFP say it all the time
>>114687419Kiara is always right
>>114687411So if people started attacking the JP girls now for being in a global brand but not speaking english, will Cover react appropriately and have separate branches for different audiences?
>>114687409That's how it worked before, also EN is killed in name only until shown otherwise.
>>114687367Mori did sway she was playing crash bash with Biboo and is goign to try and rope soem others in to pass controllers around since it is local MP only.
>>114687375you ain't fooling anyone here faggot
>>114684177nobody really knows what's actually going to happen, of course the monkey in turn itt will tell you that everything is over and nothing will be done for EN talents but in the end they can literally say "we're gonna launch SERENSKIBIDI 2" with EN talents and call it the day
Will ID finally stop speaking id in group collabs? That would be nice
>>114687432>kfpsubhuman tier fanbase
>>114687419>Kiara is rightnever heard of this one before
>>114687431?but I didn’t see EU in the list of regions they are expanding in. timestamp for the mention?
It's always Kiara vs the world, it must be difficult to be fighting alone all the time.
>>114687448>xhe thinks america is any differentlol
>>114687413No way all the newfags in here would possibly remember that, lol.
4 hours until Zelda direct
>>114687419many are NOT saying this
>>114687437>EN is killed in name onlySo the merge was pointless?
>>114687446Trvke
>>114687435I see you aren’t even pretending to not be an anti now.
>>114687461It isn't a merge, it's a restructuring. For a merge to happen there has to be two companies joining together.
so... are they going to close down the Cover USA branch?didn't they build a branch in the US?
>>114687469everyone is calling it a merge even the talents themselves though?
>>114687470it's staying there for operative stuff like merch and deals
>>114687470no
Kiara is very sensitive, so the heartless way Hololive EN was killed devastated her.
>/wawa/ deadkiaraschizo actually won
>>114687461Outwardly to us probably yes, organizationally internally it should remove administrative barriers we might not have been aware of.
>>114687479Based
>>114687351damn, which former EN is graduating
will erb gonna release more songs now?
>>114687461nta but i think they could've literally made this change while keeping the names in some kind of way, like calling them "units" or some shit like that so ppl wouldn't be so retarded about "le identity"
So.. are they relabeling stuff in holodori now?They're all by branch
>>114687351QUICK DEPLOY THR EMERGENCY COLLABS TO DAMAGE CONTROL
It's just a branding change and anyone thinking it'll negatively affect them is retarded
>Serenskibbidy selling out despite all the nerfs -> NO MORE EN CONCERTS ANYWAY LOLthe holo equivalent of the homo "the 3d live exceeded expectations!" into THD announcement combo
>>114687479Theme song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
>>114687485I sure hope not.
>>114687493its mostly the EOPfaggots throwing a melty because the "EN identity" is gone
Who should you trust?>Kiaraor>a dozen other EN members9/10 /hlgg/ posters cannot answer this question!
>>114687435I do kinda wish they'd do engrish versions of their voicepacks, like the EN girls do jap versions.Hearing Marine do broken english while trying to sound horny would be peak.(But that's just my inner gooner talking)
>>114687494it didn't sell out tho
Gura was the main pillar of EN, we all knew it but we didn't want to admit it.
>>114687489What about in the holoplus app too
>>114687492LOOK AT HOW HAPPY WE ARE, FUN AND GAMES, YAY
>>114687464No I'm just pointing out how stupid your logic is, as if Cover would merge their branches over a non issue like this
>>114687501Kek>>114687504A lazy whore of a pillar
we will see what happens when new fes starts, if we get graduations we should worry, if not, nothing ever happens
>>114687501Kiara the honest one vs the gang of liars? A truly difficult choice.
>>114687480Then why make it such a massive public facing change? They can do internal restructurings every other week and we don't have to know about them. This was a big buzzword ridden announcement at a fancy Nintendo Direct event that they did for their 9th anniversary celebration.
>>114687416Because they already know she addressed it on the members stream and all these "fans" actually don't care about her
>>114687504mostly absent pillar, no wonder the house collapsed
>>114687507with FRIENDS!
none of you fucking retards even noticed that Astel is having a meltdown on twitter lmao
>iroha being disillusioned by nadeko acting like a whorelove to see it.
>>114687527I don't follow him
>>114687517They can't kill 2 branches and not conduct some damage control or spin. That was the point of that yagoo stream and having a branch rep each acknowledge it.
>>114687527he's literally joking because he watched some shitty ass show, nobody takes it seriously
>>114687323>Or they were correct and this move is the start of how Cover lost the western vtubing market>Kiara, Iofi, OllieThese three in particular have consistently shown that they're very unreliable in narration or assessments of events. If ERB didn't correct the record that she doesn't brag about VA skills at all, KFP would've left her stream thinking ERB constantly brags about her VA skills behind the scenes. If Kronii didn't say the main reason why collabs between Kiara and Kronii are scarce is because Kiara simply can't choose a game, KFP would've left the stream thinking Kronii was the one delaying their collabs. If holos didn't reveal that their shirt design merch wasn't a universal discord ping asking for holos to participate, you would think management is specifically targeting Kiara but it was actually just a discord ping she missed because she was on the maldives vacation. Kiara has consistently shown that she's an unreliable narrator for events and situationsIofi's doesn't understand basic reality (Where's my nendo?) and most of ID is upset about the name change mainly. Iofi is also a dramafag and always goes with the any ongoing popular holotwt narrative Ollie also doesn't understand basic reality (even though she's closer to reality than Iofi). Like most of ID, she's upset about the name change due to patriotism and the memories associated with "holoID". She's also concerned about ID specific problems but this is conflicted by Kaela's optimism
>>114687527give us the qrd anon most of this thread know about the homos thanks to ernoul or the 8chian spy
>>114687527he vagueposted something that sounded like a long winded take on the restructure.then followed up with a manic "lololol you guys are stupid i didn't mean THAT"
>>114686722merge usually means downsizing
>>114687351It's not time for collabs Mori, Hololibre EN has just been murdered.
>>114687527Why would I ever care what the homos do on twitter? he could blow his brains out live on camera and I still wouldn't care
>>114687517You've seen the reaction of some of the members. Imagine they announced this internally, following this the doomposting of several ID and EN members then when questioned about it they probably couldn't really talk about it.Just imagine the amount of rrats and doompsting it would cause to the fans.
>>114687544he replied to a burner account that saod holostars have nothing to do with hololive kek
>>114687535>>114687552So the merge is a bad thing then?
>>114687493ID talent is already under a lot of pressure financially, we know that Holos pay to produce their own content. Wouldn't being part of Hololive now, with no distinction, make it harder to negotiate rates?These are the kind of real-world questions that nobody seemed to discuss. Even if the merger has some good points, nobody likes a one-way conversation
>>114687517Because they don’t think it’s a bad thing?The worst thing would be just let them be while secretly cutting all supports and letting them rot.We have yet to see if there’s any change. If anything bae and irys getting their sololive say otherwise
Biboo is brutal still going ahead with a Zelda watchalong instead of cancelling to show solidarity with her senpai Kiara
>>114687538nothing makes me more confident in this decision than knowing the NA and JP members are happy and the EU and SEA are mad about it
>I feel like EN is being sidelined. Like, the merger is sidelining EN and ID girls from opportunities and… yeah. […] Don’t worry! I’m not leaving I’ll tell you that. I’m okay with being sidelined.>people won't get it until It's too late>it's just over and sometimes things don't change for the better>that's just the way it is>I'm won't be surprised if I get in trouble for this stream, I'm already in troubleKiara is so brave to say all that even if it gets her into trouble.
>>114687558It certainly LOOKS bad, which they probably knew from the start. it BEING bad still remain to be seen with time. But being open about it like this to at the very least soften the inevitable bad reaction.
still the funniest shit is FWMC immediately tweeting in japan and telling "hehe we're not EN anymore, you can oshi us now JP bros"
>>114687538Insane cope, you niggers always employ blame tactics, try to evaluate things from a business perspective and nothing else. "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is a very simple concept
>>114687563if it comes to that they still just claim "IDs are runts anyway they should be fired" despite just months ago SCREAMING that the homobeggars were delusional to claim ID would be next. Nobody here has beliefs it's all just whatever makes Cover look good
>>114687574>feelsounds like woman talk. She doesn't have any concrete facts just retarded feelings
So this means JP, EN, ID and DEV_IS are all in one sololive queue right? How many slots will EN snag in 2027? Will Moona and Risu be contenders for 2027?
>>114687493All I know is that companies don't make big changes unless everything is wrong.
PURE SEXO
>>114687589pfffftt
>>114687581Baused
Visual Update for EN speaking members in like 6 years btw
>>114687581the average jap has about as much interest in actually watching foreigners as hlg does, so good luck with that
Together but not mixed up.
>>114687589>nowThey have always been in the same sololive queue. >first 4 girls to get a sololive1. Watame2. Mori3. Okayu4. Towa>first 4 girls to get two sololives1. Watame2. Mori3. Towa4. OkayuThere has never been separate queues
>>114686421>Also you'd think cover would have given them the rundown about this so they didnt have public freakouts like thisNobody got a rundown, even Mori was speaking out of her ass based on vibes it's weird because this thing was discussed for months and nothing was properly clarified regarding how it supposed to work outside of the most vague corposlop bullshit I wonder if Cover based their decisions on a chatGPT prompt or something
>>114687501I don't trust Kiara because >Menhera>Caused the death of Myth>MEMEMEME>Helped traitorous Nimi and gangs
>>114687582It WAS broken, didn't endure the 2025 graduation train because shit was broken?
>>114687574Who do you trust more, Fubuki or Kiara?
>>114687611All valid points
>>114687582"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" doesn't work in such a dynamic business like entertainment, especially streaming and idol activities. You have to constantly evolve and stay ahead of the game.
>>114687611Just go to bed
>>114687593EN and ID being failures there's that.
FWMC will eventually realize that they will never be Japanese, right?
>>114687581do you think they realize all the actual Japanese girls probably find them kind of pathetic for their larp
>>114687605Then why has ID1 not gotten a sololive despite being seniors to Promise?
>>114687600>they expect to do like 7-8 members per year and they wanna go in orderthere's no fucking way old EN's will be here in like 5 years to see that
>>114687613Isn't Fubuki the ultimate bootlicker in Hololive?
https://x.com/torizen_/status/2096956928870191406glad she got out of hololive before Cover killed its identity
>>114687617what does blending all the branches together "evolve"? lolboring retarded corpobabble
>>114687600IRyS is literally going to be the next one to get the visual update. They said they are going to do it based off activities and upcoming events. IRyS has a sololive in a month. She is 100% getting the visual update next. Then probably Bae since her sololive is in December.
>holoEN should've gone indie and bought out their brandAsmongold was right, now the brand is dead and it's too late
>>114687645Are you arguing for the status quo that lost us several members then?
>>114687648asmonmold
>>114687582I'm have questions about the merger but it doesn't mean I'm going to believe spergouts from people who have consistently shown they're unreliable narrators. Especially when there's several conflicting views
You know who would've never approved of the merge?
>>114687647no they didn't, they have literally stated they want to do it in order
>>114687647lol lmao
>>114687634Seniority doesn’t matter. The first sololive per gen order went4 > 2 > Myth > Gamers > 3 > 1 > Promise > 5 > 6It’s based on numbers and popularity not debut date
>>114687645The talents are just part of the "merge". It's more of a management and logistics restructure anyway. Hololive has needed a restructuring of their management for years and they are finally doing it.
I didn't think we'd have an EN member be as retarded as Fauna pouring fuel on a fire but Kiara proved me wrong by being retarded maximus
>>114687650The change should've been Cover setting holoEN & ID free as hololive global with 70% of the current assets while they go off being their retarded little nip company in Japan
>>114687648na he just wanted more streamers to join his agency
There is no reason to be optimistic so long as the "positive" ones are literally just going>DURRR WHO CARES ABOUT EN CONCERTS LOL I AM JP NOW CHINGCHONGNIPNONGWe have not gotten a single ACTUAL reassurance that EN will retain anything they've had until now. Just Melocoslop or neutral "I'm worried but thinking positive" stuff like Bae
>>114687658>It’s based on numbers and popularity not debut dateRight so this merge doesn't change anything in that regard?
>>114687558from the looks of it no one is really sure about thison one hand losing your identity as a group is definitely something to be wary about but on the other, people (who watch streams) know how fucking awful EN managment has been through the years aside from individual managersand while JP is not exactly great either having to deal with two groups of useless retards managing your projects is definitely something that needs to change but still looks like most of the naming thing is pure nip retardation, im 90% sure they could've find a way to keep the names in some way
>>114687656No they didn't. They specifically said the opposite. Sora was just first because she is Tokino fucking Sora.
>>114687611If Kiara ever went indy, imagine how many times she'd break NDA and gossip dump
>>114687665that is pure cope
>>114687679A useless relic that most EN fans don't even know? Tell me again how this merge is supposed to be good for EN
>>114687640she's a major shareholder
>>114687677Who said the merge was to unify separate sololive queues? They were always merged in that context to begin with. There was no JP, EN, or ID, only hololive. Maybe you’re a newfag and didn’t know? Now you are educated
>>114687571>If anything bae and irys getting their sololive say otherwiseAren't they both Japanese speaking, holding both their sololives in Japan, for primarily a Japanese audience? What does that say?
>>114687681I GUARANTEE she already gives insider info on hololive to all her indie whore friends
>>114687581They won't be laughing when they themselves found out they'll have to compete for a sololive slot against other JPs like fucking Subaru and the likes. And they'll get scrutinized if they ever skip the queue, just like the JP Idols they've always dreamt of becoming
>>114687674bijou literally made fun of you by saying she's going to start speaking french
>>114687519something this simple should be explained in public for fuck's sake
>>114687678yeah this retardation would had been entirely avoided if Cover just allowed EN and ID to retain their EN/Id Label and made the restructuring entirely internal
>>114687698retarded angle when we have proof Cover held back a significant number of tickets for kaigai and region blocked Japan from buying them
>>114687667Kiara has been a loose cannon since day one, honestly she is not worth the troubles cover should just terminate her at this point.
>>114687689So would she tell the truth, or the "truth" that the company needs her to tell?
>>114687688en loses Fuwamoco but we get Kaela and Haachama
>>114687702of course little miss company girl from the most coddled gen outside of the jaypees would do that
>>114687679Yes they fucking did say that you mongoloid. 29:10
>>114687712go to bed
>>114687716epic response totally not a bot
>>114686970I don't really see a problem in that this cases have to be quite exceptional.
>>114687670Who's side are you arguing for here? So you are for "Killing holoEN and HoloID" then?
>>114687678"Hire competent managers" seems like an easier fix
>>114687641why are you hiding noombas?
>IRyS gets a visual update next yeah right LMAO
>>114687593well we know that everything was wrong management wise, the fact that yagoo is sitting on the meetings once fucking again should tell you that
>>114687711that was before they decided on doing the rebrand which was only announced internally this year July
>>114687715Woah, a stone with no personality and a girl who doesn't stream anymore, we've won.
>>114687689Source?
>>114687731I'm for "holoEN and ID should be freed from retarded nip management with everything they earned for the company", centralization is the furthest thing away from that
>>114687713fubuki's truth aligns with the company, because she is THE company
>>114687700They have always had to compete with JP. IRyS got her sololive the exact timing she was supposed to based on her sales. Mio was the last JP member to have better album sales than her and the last JP member to get a sololive before her. She got it no earlier and no later than we predicted in this very threadWhen FWMC’s sales finish, we will see whether they have what it takes. They know this that’s why they have been shilling it as being essential for their future.
>>114687711>we'll reserve some tickets for you to come japan>otherwise, get fucked lololol>HoloEN
>>114687716Adventschizo seethe
>>114687757so when is ID's members sololives? they're equal to everyone now
>>114687754That goes against their wishes to stay with the company though. Sounds like something an anti would say.
>>114687735yeah but that's actually hard, like unironically hard
>>114687712No one seems to like her anyway so it's a win win and no more kfp subhumans stirring up drama
>>114687740She has a sololive in less than a month. She is 100% getting it next.
>>114687709they have to shove they're failures to their faces if not what's the point
>>114687361Wait..... The shareholder rrat
>endless complaints about management bureaucracy slowing down or halting projects and causing issues >Yagoo decides to merge the branches to streamline the processes behind the scenes and make life easier for everyone >twitter trannies EXPLODE What causes this reaction among the phase cucks and sisters? Does a well run business scare them so much?
>>114687775lmfao
ENbrony status?
>>114687777This is very obviously the reason for it to happen, particularly ID but it's not like EN hasn't very clearly declined in viewership too
>>114686759this makes no sense you could include some EN members in JP stuff easily because they speak nihongo but you can't just push JPs into EN events when they can barely form one coherent sentence it's not going to work unless said events are all very basic and lame anyway.
>>114687767ID albums have been so bad they do worse than Kiara, who already had the worst album in JP and EN. That’s why Kiara doesn’t have a sololive despite being senior to IRyS and Bae. Her numbers are just abysmalSololives are earned, not given. ID has always been allowed to work towards one, but no ID member has had the musical success to justify it
>>114687770A management restructure doesn't make managers better though.
>>114687758well no one got fucked at all considering there's still tickets available
>>114687571is the duolive just not a thing anymore?
>JP twitter pedantically sperging about how it's "all branches are hololive now" and NOT "side branches become part of holoJP" (DON'T GET IT TWISTED!!!)LMAO they're so fucking xenophobic, good luck fuwamoco, surely killing your EN fanbase will be worth it
>>114687792nothing EN could've prevented, the fad simply moved onto other things
>>114687775I'll have fun grudgeposting this in a month
>>114687788nice try but it’s mostly holonigs seething
>>114687788Centralization is the opposite of streamlining
>>114687792EN's viewership has been very consistent for years now. I guess you could make the argument that they aren't growing per say, but they certainly aren't declining.
If they fire Kiara, I will do everything possible to destroy the integrity of Hololive.
Does this mean the official en channel won't get uploads anymore or will they just rename it?
>>114687767JPs are more equal than them
>>1146878061 JP viewer = 1000 EN viewers in FWMC eyes, it's worth it for them
>>114687774but you're still simping for that one racist KFP cosplaywhore right Okabe? did she sleep with u or something
>>114687788>streamline the process in what way? half of the EN's can't speak japanese
>>114687800Japan is finite. Having the JP-focused ENs compete for the same market doesn't make Japan magically bigger
>>114687806based ENfags can't sustain them as well as JP
>>114687809>mostly holonigsSure sure Phasebro
>>114687813meh they don't really hit 5 digits in regular streams anymore
>>114687829Bro it’s 2026 a language barrier doesn’t mean anything anymore
>>114687813>EN's viewership has been very consistent for years nowno it has been not lmao
>>114687810Nigga just juggling words to make it look like its bad for hololive
Just to wind things back a bit... why did they say this was a good idea? I see anons throwing out speculation, but shouldn't Cover have justified this in some concrete way themselves?
>>114687769They're better off outside the company, it's Stockholm Syndrome speaking and most of them don't want to stay anyway after Cover just killed EN and ID's identities
>>114687830the japanese bought out all of there tickets in a minute so it does work
This change feels perfect for fwmc now they don't need to consider their 5 applications into jp not successful
>>114687740Two lolis will destroy the balance
>>114687809The only holo fans complaining are KFP and fucking ID plebs who were already second class among the side branches anyways
>>114687844yeah right, because casual speaking = beauocracy language
>>114687803it was clearly a cope solution to keep kiara from quitting even though the didn't trust the salesthe thing is that every single talent next in line is a wannabe-JP that can just host their concert in Tokyo where it's piss-easy to sell out because random holofans will just buy tickets if there's any available. IRyS Bae and surely next in line is FWMCOnce we get to Kronii or Nerissa, then it's possible that a duolive option might be needed but by then EN will already have been castrated in favor of JP
>>114687848it's the correlation to the foundation actually
>>114687788Yagoo love holostars
>>114687724only if you come with me
>>114687845Nice english pajeet and yes, it has been very consistent.
>>114687868>where it's piss-easy to sell outwellnot for IRyS lol
Since Gura left, the average CCV of HoloEN members has fallen, even Biboo lost half and is only kept afloat by bots.
>>114687862>Grems are complaining>Chumbuds are complaining>Saplings are complaining>Teamates are complainingsure, "only KFP & ID" care about keeping EN alive and trying to get Cover to reverse this bullshit
>>114687746better than vteletubbies that is fuwamoco
>>114687848>long long english noipad kiddies shouldn't be integrated into society. go back to mobile games or fighting on nu-twitter
What's Laura so mad about?
>>114687875sure lil guppie
>>114687798like i said, is x10 times easier to handle one group of retards instead of having to go through a filter of people who are just as useless if not worsewe dont need EN's "middle managment"
>>114687855it won't work for all of HoloEN.rrat leaving a sinking ship
>>114687887everyone used machine TL on her japanese post
>>114687849They thought that announcing a new unit would distract people, they were wrong. People completely ignored the announcement.
>>114687889>we will always be ENso that was a lie
>>114687798it lessens workload when you do not need to do everything 3 times
>>114687882interesting how the people normally complaining about justice twt are suddenly pretending like grems aren't having a fucking melty and literally being racist towards Japs
>>114687868If they need a partner, they don’t get a sololive. Nobody is entitled to a concert. Otherwise NoeFlare would have had a duolive with how both of them have been fighting for a sololive for years at this point. If the numbers aren’t there, it’s a no. The precedent set for Kiara is that threatening graduation is the one way to overcome bad numbers. The precedent was not that duolives are a thing, remember Cover calls the duolive “Kiara’s sololive” to prevent her from asking for a real one
>>114687884Plebbitor like you doesnt deserve human rights btw
>>114687890Nice comeback. Don't you have pagpag to consume?
>>114687906>complains about racism>uses Japs
>>114687889HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I still don't understand what will happen to EN concerts, are they no longer happening?
>>114687892anon, why is an organization broken down into smaller groups rather than just mashing everyone all together, wouldn't that be more simple? Try and be serious please
>>114687911not sure what that is but I'm sure you do know thatno 5view streams ever ever again btw
>>114687899I guess Mori is also ID, Ms. Worldwide.
>>114687889And of course the pink leech will not speak a single word of English during it.
>>114687813It's been declining, also the yen has been declining too so in order to offset the decline of the yen, you'd need to increase your viewership, but that's also not happening.
>>114687925Holofest US
PHASEGODS & NIJIGODS, we lived to see the downfall of Rom—I mean Hololive.
>>114687889>Making Mori watch the Cincinnati RedsJeez, JP really is bullying EN after the merger.
>>114687930>damage control
>>114687931Well yeah, Koyori is Japanese. Mori will be the English commentator.
>>114687935But that's not an EN concert.
>>114687935lmao this is never happening at most you'll have a holo booth at a con
>>114687889GLORY TO NIPON
>Fubuleech is rallying the JPfags to fight back against angry EN and IDchadskek this fanbase civil war will be even worse than what happened with NijiJP and NijiEN fans
>>114687889FWMC are salivating right now
>>114687925>are they no longer happening?I hope so.
>>114687948If I get to not have my ears bleed from hearing Raora sing and exchange get Watame, you bet your ass that’s an upgrade
>>114687889Man, she's just like FWMC. EN has already been forgotten....
>NijiEN has outlived HoloENHumiliation of the century
>>114687930>First JP collabing with ID and EN is Haachama Cover really doesn't understand who's best placed to help them reassure people. She's a JP senpai from the main branch and honest to a fault. Imagine if they'd promoted some upcoming integrated events like this to reassure everyone
>>114687889ya that's what I thought the merger just means only mori gets opportunities like always
LET'S GOOOOO! FUCK THE DOOMERS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObOvNDajwLk
>>114687845proof?
>>114687889Thanks for showing us that HoloEN is still alive, you lying son of a bitch.
>>114687965I was busy watching Lyra as anons requested wtf is this
The translations always give me a chuckle.
>>114687965>>114687978Not fair, CC is going to stomp everyone else
>>114687978what game is this?
>>114687978>No GGWhy didn't she join?...
>>114687908Kiara never "threatened graduation" and said the duo live suggestion by management came out of nowhere when she already had given up on ever getting a liveCover counting it as a solo live was also just her assumption, it's almost certainly true (obviously) but just because she inferred it doesnt mean it was a one-time thing that will never be repeatedThe survey also had feedback questions about whether future duolives, although it probably doesn't mean much
>>114687978>ID and EN clearly involvedDoomers aren't going to like this
>>114687997This would be the first time ever CC plays holodori, no? What mode is this even the tournament for
>>114687889Please don't make me side with Kiara in this....
>>114688001Holodori
>>114688004JP event no even gonna bother
>>114688004why would she?
>>114687889Imagine if they banned samefaggers here like they do on towa.
>>114687889Kiara whore lostered
>>114688010the rhythm game mode
>>114687899>>114687919>>114687972>>114687988>>114688017Mori has done plenty of collabs with JP before, what the fuck are you dramatourists talking about
>>114688020Because she's the best holodori player in the company...
>>114688009Doomers tend to be mentally weak people
>>114688018The actual rhythm game? If so Anya's team will probably win since she is the best player in Hololive. Although IRyS and Flare are pretty damn good too.
>>114688034what's the point of the merge then?
>>114687889>Mori: Finall! Thank you Yagoo I don't have to collab with those runts from EN anymore, I can finally mooch my way into JP and get ALL the JP Mindshare! And ALL the clout from JP senpais all for myself!
>>114688029CC? with her fucked up hands? >>114688036That might be exactly why she's sitting out, to give everyone else a chance
>>114688042It's the rhythm game and the chase game
>>114688010>>114688029The new cops and pranksters game too. It’s two parts IIUC
>>114687965of course pigwhora is leeching both marine and vivi again kek
>CC was going to join Aki's ARK event>missed it because of airport problems>now joining Botan's Holodori event>GG nowhere in sightWhat is she planning?
>>114687889>One of the hardest working members of Hololive gets to do a collab>Apparently this makes ENfags really mad for some reason
>>114688027you can fuck right back off to your hugbox then
>>114688036so?
>>114687978CC doing anything but a solo stream for her fans
>>114688064It's all dramafags
>>114688042Is Anya better than Gigi? I haven't seen Anya play. IRyS is pretty damn good in her own right but she isn't quite on Gigi's level. IRyS can just clear 28's and 29's whereas Gigi can full combo them.
>>114688036that's kanade
>>114688063You can merge the branch all you want Gigi will never join these phony events (BASED)
>>114687910Oh nyo anonI shouldn't have made you so angry by using a word with 5 syllables
>>114687889KIARA WONKIARA WON
>>114688063gigi? nothing, she hates events like this
>yesterday a Pokajan tournament >today a rhythm and chase tournament >Both are being made to seem like they are organized by talents, but they're clearly organized by holodori staff
>>114686740Mori literally did a whole stream about places to go in Japan when she did her tourism stream. She did her teaching on an island which she took a ferry to get to in Hiroshima
>>114687889uhhhh, EN?
>>114688034It's free for all shitpost hours so everything will be over analyzed and used for shitposting if it fits a narrative
>>114688078The best players are GG, Anya, Flare in that order
https://x.com/Veibae/status/2097036579772481562Veibae is coming backrrats?
>>114688078From what I've seen of Anya it's neck to neck. I think Gigi is more intuitive in that she can FC something on first try if she puts her mind to it but Anya can learn to FC a 28 song by just like 3-5 tries, while sometimes Gigi just get stuck with something like she did with Monster and Mdn
>Niji gets to organize tournaments for whatever games they want>Holo forced to organize tournaments for their company's gachaslopMan...
>>114688078gigi played against anya on stream and fced songs anya didntdont think its anything conclusive but its all we have
Hello fellow Hololive watchersIs this HoloX Monogatari watchalong the entirety of their collab or is there more to it?
>>114688089>Management helping them organize eventsThis is a good thing.
>>114688080Ok that's based of her. She's not a leech
>>114688089no shit both are true since the talent is hosting it
>>114687978Isn't the fact that more EN members are showing up in JP events at JP hours part of the doomposting?
>>114688078it depends if IRyS is on iPad or on phone. on phone it’s no contest but on iPad she’ll be nerfed
>>114688063Gigi doesn't fuck with JP. If all of Justice moves to Japan one by one she will be the last one in the US. She's our only hope for HoloUSA now along with Shiori.
>>114687978>Branches merged>FWMC don't jump at a chance to mingle with the JPsWhat are they waiting for?
>>114688107There's something else coming in Octhttps://x.com/holoXmonogatari/status/2096901299333922963
>>114686596Isn't that very telling in itself? It's obviously a shocking move, obvious it will be interpreted as downsizing of foreign branches so if they don't actually plan to fuck them over it's exactly the time to explain how they're actually helping. Also holo EN lost it's branding they're fucked in similar way ID was when they're largely speaking English, now people will assume hololive is just Japanese and that's it.
Oh look cc doing a collab instead of a solo stream as usual
>>114686907Nigga we are swimming in American culture it’s in every cinema and on every radio.
>>114688078I thought Flare was number ONE (Elf superiority)
>>114688113there were more EN in the ark collab
>>114688127based ngl
Suisei had a live concert today btw and no Holo account retweeted it: https://x.com/Rikei356064/status/2097248255931498825
>>114688118She will be nerfed on iPad? Mobile rhythm games are better played on tablets so that doesn't make sense. Is she just more used to the phone?
>>114688103Is this really the best you can do anon?...
>>114688034>don't worry EN will still be EN, stop the doomposting>btw here's a full week of JP collabs to introduce myself to my new main audienceRIP holoEN
>>114688143not holo
>>114688127>Gigi doesn't fuck with JP.Wrong she's friends with benefits with Okayu
>>114687926>why is an organization broken down into smaller groupswhy are you suggesting this wasn't exactly the problem? even tho we know from the taletns themselves that they were all managed differentlydid you forgot that lui's talk about how JP and EN were completely different?and we dont need to look at ID that shit speak for itself
>>114688131They don't want to get shat on for their shit rhythm skills (very close to Noel level)
>>114688143Suisei isn't Hololive. She even confirmed she's not affected by the merge at all
>>114688143no holo, no watch
>>114688127Of course she doesn't fuck with JP she is Chinese at heart and chinks hate the nips
>>114688103>sega pays pekora to host a tetrispuyo tourney>niji gets koshien sponsors dropped
>>114688140From the players I've seen Anya and Gigi are the top tier and Flare and IRyS are on the tier below them. Still damn good players just not quite as good as the top tier. I haven't watched anybody else play (aside from those funny Noel clips) so if anybody else could comment on other members that would be great.
>>114688034don't you think the time is not the best for that right now lol
>>114687965what's this?
>>114688141And?
>>114688166Wtf I love Chinese women now?
>>114688145she has been playing rhythm mobages named for being played on mobile phones for over a decade. the iPad cover gave her has a screen protector she doesn’t like and she had never played on iPads before
>>114688173Why? Because you're a xenophobe?
>>114688180it's decreasing members not increasing
>>114688113what do ppl hate JP events now? now everyone hates holoGTA?
>>114687193Anon at some point you hae to give up the 100s in spaceships as sunk cost>>114687292It’s not a scam in that it is actively being worked on it’s just that the people working on it are incompetent loons who get halfway through something before deciding to add something different
>>114688143retardhttps://x.com/holocommu/status/2097248577642737690
>>114688127if your only hope is a chink and a whore it won't end well for you
Back then:>what, Mori doesn't know a thing about JP!Now:>what, all Mori does is collab with JP!The antis are broken lol
ENfags should've been kicked out of /#/ when they couldn't make the tally anymore
>>114688203That account even retweets graduated holos, does it really count?
>>114688195yes as long as it helps us push our narrative
>>114688034Mori said yesterday that she'll do everything she can to keep the spirit of EN alive and the first thing she does is a collab in Japanese lol
>>114688195Your talking to 4 browncorders on a dead board.
>>114688195If the merger is supposed to take hololive global then why isn't the event happening in global hours? Most people don't give a shit about staying up to watch JP crap
>>114687978I used to be one of those who would always ask for more events/tournaments like this from EN, but now I just don't give a fuck, you lazy whores wanna be followers instead of trendsetters? Fine not like the branch can set trends anymore cause it's dead!
>>114687951youre really hunting my post arent you?
NAKED LOLI ON KOYO CHANNEL
>>114688219It's an official hololive account so yes
>>114688216dont you have your own /#/ for SEAmurais? go back
>>114688216b-b-but the tally tranny said he will still make EN tally
>>114688227majority of hololive fans live in japan
>>114688143not hololive tho.
>>114687978The only difference is that they included Ollie. Is that what the merge was for?
>>114688216Based. There's a reason why we called it the cope tally. It should have been retired once 10k golds stopped happening.
>>114688227sure thing sis
do all these vtubers have daddy issues?
>>114688224Yeah Mori's up coming collabs are:Mori x Jp memberMori x Ironmouse and other liggersMori x jp Majong tournamentway to keep HoloEN alive
>>114688204I want them to kiss
>>114688195Yes. When JP organize events EN are available. But when EN organized event JP's are nowhere to be found. Where are the JP members when hytale server was up?
>a restructuring is now a MergerWhich Company is Cover merging with?
>>114688109Management-organized product shilling is clearly the future we all look forward to
>>114688143I mean today's concert wasn't streamed, let's see if they tweet tomorrow's
>>114688244ollie has been in multiple jp events before
>>114688262HoloEN is literally dead anon there's no point keeping it alive. It is dead. So why not invite Ironmouse?
>>114688273Phasebros and Nijinegross cant think please understand
>>114688136>if they don't actually plan to fuck them over it's exactly the time to explain how they're actually helpingWell, here's the neat part
>>114688279So what was the merge for?
How long will it take Cover to prove Kiara was right?
>>114688293She's already been proven right by how upset the fans are
>>114687813>EN's viewership has been very consistent for years now
>>114688293when she stop leeching from graduated members
>>114688285I kinda blame the originator of the "NijisanjiEN is so bad it'll merge with Nijisanji JP" rrat because he clearly doesn't understand what a merger is.
>>114688291so cover could fine the retards seething 1.5million yen per post
>>114688157Neither of us has enough information to suggest how to better restructure Hololive. I'm just pointing out divisions aren't a bad thing. They exist for very good reasons
>>114688294lol, lmao even
>>114688302They were obviously bad in Hololives case because they created a difference in how talents were treated. You people were bitching about EN getting the shaft for years and now they're finally being put into the same system all the JP talents have you're complaining.
>>114688296That chart just proves my point, lol. Only a year ago they were at their highest ever and upswings and downswings have been a part of the trend since 2022.
why do I feel like kiara isn't close with any ENs now?like I'd think during her breakdown Mori or some else would message her to reassure but Jesus no one?
>>114688272half of EN didn’t join hytaleif Kiara wanted them to join she should have hosted it in NA or JP hours instead of EU hours
>>114688294only kfp indogs and grems
Kiara was right, it's full Japanese from now on.
>>114688282why that damage control from Mori then
>>114687978I know IRyS and Ina are decent, but how good is CC? Does EN team have any chance to place within the top 3?
>>114687889The merger effectlook at all of this ENGLISH here... oh wait there isn't any, but you can't complain because it's still hololive teehee :^) See? see what they really wanna do here? or do you niggers need another year for it to settle in properly?
>>114688317>a difference in how talents were treatedYou don't need formal divisions to have favoritism. Just stop talking before you embarrass yourself any futher
>>114688326good
>the fans are upsetYou mean the EN tourists who only watched for le shark?That's the real problem: EN fans didn't become Hololive fans. Cover looked at the data and saw that Murricunts will abandon you if one of theirs left. They have no sense of loyalty and will be frontrunners.
>>114688327she was trying to get pity clout and virtue signaling clout and twitter likes, that's all
>>114688319How do you know they haven't? Not everything has to be public.
>>114688333I wouldn't even care if Mori didn't write some essay after the announcement how she's gonna keep the EN spirit alive lmao
>>114688337The issue with Omegatroon was hardly anything to do with favoritism
>>114688333Mori has done JP collabs ever since she debuted what the fuck are you talking about
>>114688341>the EN tourists who only watched for le sharkWanting to do a global expansion, but resenting the global talent and fans seems somewhat counterintuitive
>>114688331No clue but I assume the teams are balanced so she's got to be pretty mid considering how good IRyS is
>>114688331>Hand rhythm gamesShe'll be mega shit
>>114688319Because she's intentionally isolated herself from the rest of the branch. She hasn't made any effort to join any collabs in years. All she does is stream during dead hours and complain to her KFP about how unfair everything is
>Hololive members can freely collab with each otherThey already do that>Free to do content in whatever languageThey already do that>JP Girls will try to speak englishThey will stop after a month or do it when they need subs like always?>Free to check out whatever member despite language\Again already free to do that>So what are the benftis again for the merger
>>114688357why should they bend over backwards for twitterfags that don't watch streams dont buy merch and don't go to concerts
>>114688296Hilarious seeing that decline considering the incredible amount of botting that happened It'd have fallen like a rock
>>114688349I'm talking about within JP itself. Or did you forget that already
>>114688318Their peak is from Gura graduating and this is by far the longest downswing they've ever had. They're objectively at the lowest they ever have been
>>114688341Yuros still seething they are literally South America and Africa tier now? You guys lost to fucking SEA LMAO
>>114688341Are you pretending nousagi or 35p or hoshiyomi or ichimi wouldn't leave if their oshi did?
>>114688342The only thing she said on Twitter was that she was sad that EN didn't last 6 years when there was only a week left until the anniversary.
>>114688296NTA, but a 1K difference in average CCV over 4 years (only around 10% +- few % from the second highest peak at the start) is definitely stable enough. (I'm comparing to 2nd highest peak at the start instead of the highest in 2025 since I'm sure anons wouldn't count that 2025 peak due to the engine)
>>114688367Muh unity
>>114688367>So what are the benftis again for the mergerno more EN concertsno more EN eventsfuwamoco becoming meloco 2.0faster game perms
>>114688369Wasn't Gura the most subbed vtuber ever? If Cover can't see any opportunity in that, it's better they're JP only. But just stop pretending to care about any other audience. Honesty is a virtue
>>114688136>now people will assume hololive is just Japanese and that's itThis is what Cover wants, this is what the elimination of other branches means and it's the entire point of why they did it. They want to return to full JP only while promoting hololive to the world. They didn't mean to go "global" by hiring more foreigners, they just want to promote their Japanese existence to the world. Don't ask me why they want to try and sell their japanese product for japanese people only to the rest of the world somehow, ask them about it not me. Because it goes both ways: japanese people are not interested in learning more languages, especially english, but the rest of the planet does NOT speak japanese nor does anyone have an interest in it and people learn chinese or spanish instead, along with english. Their apathy towards other languages is the same thing others feel for japanese since it's a useless language outside of japan.
>>114688382This fact terrifies Cover because it shows their business isn't sustainable. That doesn't get talked about as much as it should
>>114688376It's barely a 1k fluctuation in viewership over a period of 4 years. That is consistent as fuck. You killed your own argument by posting that chart, lmao. You played yourself son.
>>114687451merge is actually le good because entire hololive is going global! How will it happen? With the power of positive thinking!
>>114688341Literally even reddit, the biggest Cover bootlickers are upset and already attacking Fubuki
>>114688262Why you ignoring Kaira and Ina are also in the VRchat live?
>>114688227I'd watch happily if Cover actually invested in some live translators. They keep throwing shit at the wall trying to tap into new markets but they could easily solve the issue by employing a handful of translators
>>114688367to btfo homos
>>114688387Meant to >>114688326
>>114688382No, but I know for a fact that Pekora, Marine and Suisei won't rest on their laurels like Gura and Ame did.Myth did nothing with their superiority and now you idiots are reaping from "just laughing at the lazy shark hee hee".
>>114688396are you talking about the past or about people complaining now?
>>114688419She's lost her touch
>>114688319Because she did it while everyone but maybe ERB was sleeping.
>>114688416Now remove the bots and realize how embarrassingly stupid you are
>>114688447You are getting really desperate.
>>114688319Her breakdown in her prechat where only some KFPs can see?
Every minute that passes only proves that Kiara was right. How did that happen?
>>114688419and they're right, someone who isn't affected shouldn't fucking speak for others and fubuki has no right to pull this "listen to ME i am le unity Jesus of hololive" shit Mori is the one who needs to grow some balls, FACE her responsibilities as the face of EN, and give us a real talk, preferably after grilling Cover beforehand
Honestly at this point all of EN and ID should leave and create their own group as indie. Hololive is over at this point.
>Gura dropped her ball and left.That's the real problem. For all the praise they got, Myth (except for the two who are clearly remaining after Kiara leaves) never pushed their boundaries. As a result, the expansion ultimately failed.
Can someone explain why not a single American member is unhappy? Why is it only European and southeast Asian members?
>>114688419She's the fakest bitch in the company. I'm not surprised.
>>114688428I'm saying Gura was commercially viable. Why they didn't embrace her to keep her around (and all of EN by extension) is something I truly don't know.
>>114688416>at their lowest point ever>it's consistent though broAnyone who wonders why SEA is the way it is should just come to this thread
>>114687722>29:10NTA but try watch till 29:35 they actually explained it
>>114688455Ah, running away when you're proven a retard, at least you're self aware.
>>114688469>Mori is unhappy>Bae is unhappy>Cecilia and Gigi and Shiori don't even want to talk about it because they have nothing good to say
Uh.... so who's excited for Hololive NEXT
>>114688469Err...Biboo?It's more of their traits. Mori just soldiers on, Same with Biboo. Kiara is a doomer.
>>114688483I hope it's a good one like dissolving EN and ID.
>>114688472wtf did you want them to do, magically cure her illness?
>>114687493branding change is a negative in itself, I mean holo JP will not be affected because everyone knows they're Japanese. Whole purpose of EN and ID label was to make it clear for foreigners that this hololive members will speak in their language (some of the time in case of ID) English speakers had their own brand that makes sense, merging means potential foreign fans will only get confused.
>>114688487Kiara is honest* She isn't a bootlicking whore like biboo
>>114688481I asked for an explanation not headcanon. Try /wg/ if you want feedback on your fanfiction
>>114688469There's only 5 Americans left in the branchThe two who don't live in Japan (Gigi and Shiori) haven't said anything yetThe other three (Nerissa, Biboo, Mori) live in Japan. Nothing will change for Mori. Nerissa is excited. Nothing will change for Biboo (she had a good message on her stream today).
They should just adress the fact that EN concerts got axed, none of his vagueposting both negative and positive means anything until they address the elephant in the roomyou know why they won't? because then people will have a solid fact to point to WHY this merge that was feared and all the forced positivity girlies will look retarded.
>still trying to say Mori doesn't like the news.>while calling her out for collabs with JPSo which is it,retard?
>>114688487biboo wasn't unhappy
>>114688464>fubuki has no right to pull this "listen to ME i am le unity Jesus of hololive" shit And when did she do that?
>>114688483>New techMy oshi will probably leave before she gets it>AnimeLol, lmao>Future EN events like concertsShe's not even guaranteed to be there since it's probably optional considering the cost and time constraints of doing it overseas if they rebrand it to FES liteSo yeah there's nothing to look forward to
>>114688514That's what I'm saying. You're saying that SEA members aren't happy.
>>114688520Well let's have a party if it's the end of Hololive. We had a good run
>>114688477Yeah, so the anon who mentioned IRyS being next is probably right. If they are doing it in consideration of upcoming events it would be kind of silly to not have it ready for her sololive.
>>114688519fubuki literally RAPED me by not immediately trash talking everyone
>I'll only believe Kiara because she backs my negative thoughts and ignore all other conflicting opinions>I'll never take a neutral stance just to observe and see results. Doom doom doom like the retard I am
>>114688539You're trying too hard
>>114688536I don't think IRyS needs another redesign anyway
>>114688526no shit she's not a sea member
>>114688419It was easy to see that everything she said was bullshit.
>>114688536Her face in the sololive art is a bit off isn’t it? I remember there were jokes that she looked like Miko with horns
>>114688519
>>114688536I wonder if this will also be a point of contention when some talents get it earlier than others. Imagine if fucking Gigi got it first and the JPs went mental
>>114688542You've already lost by letting someone from 4chan dictate what you should feel.
It’d been 24 hours and nothing has actually changed. Hololive won.
>"Fubuki shouldn't have had to explain it, Cover should've done it">Fubuki didn't say anything that wasn't already covered in the Yagoo stream???
>>114688542Pebcucks can't stop licking those dogshit covered boots
Jp bois must be so lovely
>>114688551Anon, Thais are from SEA.
>>114688519She said it over 7 years ago when ZERO people itt were there at that time.
>>114687889Bro why is she always watching the dodgers fuck the dodgers at least watch cubs vs brewers
>>114688509There's no reason for them to stop doing concerts in America with all the EN members involved. It just won't explicitly be an EN concert and will probably have more than just a couple non EN members.
>>114688585>wanting to watch Pete Crap Armshit
>>114688579She’s American. Your European retardation not understanding how the melting pot works is showing
>>114688583That long ago? Why do anons keep bringing it up like it has anything to do with current Hololive?
>>114687665just like Anycolor did leading to their IPO? Some talents were fine with it because niji KR management was horrible but in the end you had mass graduations anyway.
>>114688587>EN concert will now have non EN membersSo just like all the other EN concerts
>>114688579she's as american as hotdogs are, or hamburgers
>>114687889WHAT THE FUCK? THIS IS BIG NEWShttps://x.com/MLBJapan/status/2089319386477973695https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W43c9qfYZAk
>>114688143Hololive has too many concerts. Did anyone even know this was happening?
>>114688561What are you even talking about?>>114688573And nothing is changing for Biboo at all. For some reason, that makes you seethe hard. Good. Seethe more
>>114688579she has never lived in thailand and is half american
Time will tell that Kiara was right. It's only been a day and it already seems like it's happening.
>>114688302>I'm just pointing out divisions aren't a bad thingI didn't suggest that either, I'm talking purely from Hololive's perspective and how these divisions just didn't work out for them
>>114688603The difference is that NijiKR and NijiID were already dead/failing branches. HoloEN and HoloID are in a much better position than those Niji counterparts are. Niji's "merge" was done to cut the fat of failed branches. Holo's "merge" is a restructuring.
>>114688169nahoone
>>114688627No, Kiara bet on the wrong horse and is now suffering from that decision. That's why she's crashing out.She literally uses MCU parallelism to argue, that in itself is a red flag.
>>114688623of course she'd say that, NijiID and NijiKR said that too when the merger first happened, then they all left
>>114688627kiara is always wrong, she has an entire history of misinterpreting things
>>114688587>>114688608>All the EN members Doubtful, if they want to make it more of a neutral concert with more ID and EN, something's got to give. You think they'll ship all ENs + more JPs and IDs together more than Serendipity did? Despite the already precarious financial nature of such an event?
>>114688627Kiara can’t even figure out which country she should live in. I don’t think she can be right about anything
>>114688627she already said it, by the time people feel the effects it will already be too late
>>114688614Yea way bigger than Dodgers night for sure, hololive didn't fall off after all
>>114688583>>114688602>>114688559>"As long as I'm still here". Because there's no time range given by this management cocksucker.
If this was the same kind of merge that the nijishitter insists it is, then why are Holostars officially been separated?
They already told you, it's just for branding. For you the viewer nothing practically changes. In the background everything management related gets streamlined and sped up with bloat removed.
damn it looks like an all out war here
>>114688627>It's only been a day and it already seems like it's happening.damn everyone hates JP events ig
>>114688643>The difference is that NijiKR and NijiID were already dead/failing branchesAlso, Niji debuted 18 EIGHTEEN!!!! talents a year after the merge and 5 in the very same year of the merge kek. It's like people forget this very crucial fact
>>114688666cover chose not to renew the license because they liked the taiwan baseball betteryou can see that shoheis birthday this year had no promotional giveaway or event
>>114688623Watching you bootlicking is actually funny, you really are a turkey wishing for Thanksgiving Keep swallowing shit cuckie
I'll bet anything you want that the whole idea of the merger was something Mori pushed for. she's always hated Hololive EN right from the start.
>>114688617No, but stars too have concert next year
>>114688670Can you show us your merch and your membership?
>>114688677>For you the viewer nothing practically changesWhy was there a Coca-Cola NYE stream and not Hololive Shuffle? Things absolutely change, just 6 months in advance so you don't see the impact immediately.
>>114688713Retard. Dodger Night was on the weekend of Serendipity… they obviously don’t want to overshadow their own event with a triple header. Taiwan was a footnote in the financial reports
I hate Kiara and Ollie and all of ID they must graduate now.
>>114688652>of course she'd say that, NijiID and NijiKR said that too when the merger first happened, then they all leftYou're assuming Cover shares the same retardation as Niji
>>114687652I see no conflict here Kiara is always cup half-empty kind of person but no member said anything to contradict her, they're just trying to be positive about it but none of them sounds too excited if anything they just seem defeated because whatever they might say doesn't change the decision. There was 0 reassurance that things will stay the same so far other than with usual streaming activities which is obvious.
>>114688721You're so mad that nothing actually changes for them. Continue seething. Biboo is closer to a sololive than your shitters are to a 3D live. Seethe more you would've actually provided numbers if your shitters were worth something
>>114688751Nerissa was rather explicit about this being a good change, but she's in the FWMC camp of selling EN down the river in a heartbeat if it means extra interactions with First Army
On the bright side, looping has been less common for the last day
I wonder if all the English collabs are scheduled for next week.
>>114688603This clearly isn't anything like what Niji did. Niji did it because they were done investing in those regions and is more like what happened to Holostars where they can stay but they aren't getting anything anymore.Cover reiterated their commitment to expansion and it's obvious that the girls are still going to be involved in company projects.
>>114688677>streamlined Shows how many underage people actually post here, or people that have never worked at an actual non fast food job. When department's within a company merge 99% of the time it is for monetary reasons. Jobs are cut and people are asked to absorb the tasks of the jobs that were cut. It is never streamlined and if anything slows slows things down as you are now trying to do the same thing as before with less people. Almost every talent has one single manager and very few managers work with more than one talent. In what world is less staff going to make things better for EN and ID? They're absolutely not going to be priority over JP
>>114688784y-yeah2 more weeks
>>114688768>>114688721
>>114688741it's a day after it wouldn't overshadow but instead get more people that are already in LA to attend
>>114688784>One of the few members that plan group collabs is in JP nowLol, lmao
>>114688677>streamlinedthis buzzword is used constantly but nobody explains WHAT is getting streamlined lol
>>114688751>>114688776What puts Kiara's narration over Nerissa's narration exactly? What puts Kiara's narration over Kaela's optimism? What puts Kiara's narration over Ina and Raora's cautious optimism? You don't have anything because you're just picking and choosing which narrative you want to go with because of a preconceived notion you already had without Kiara being a factor instead of simply standing and observing. I know you're never going to provide proof so I'll just watch you squirm
>>114688816We already told you: it's management. Remember when Yagoo said that management issues were being resolved? This was their solution.
>>114688816Well its only been a day.
Trust me guys getting merged is actually a good thing. It's been one day and we already have EN doing JP Introductions The merge is EN/ID falling off and JP needs to save them.
>>114686959NTA but I will defend enreco for releasing monster which is a banger for my ears
>>114688741taiwan is a neighbour to japan the logistics are better to hold their holo night there
>>114688536I don't know how long to make the new model, if it took long time then they must've prepared it about the same time as Sora's upgrade but that's very unlikely imo
>>114688835what is the solution lol, what managementEOP EN's will be forced to talk with japanese management now, how is that a solution
Oof, that Reine and Risu members talk was dire...
>>114688784Why are we being humiliated like this bros?
>>114688787>Cover reiterated their commitment to expansionActions not words anon
>>114688858No, a centralized Management structure that caters to all
>>114688858Less staff means that everyones projects will now happen faster obviously
>>114688779definitely better than cuckposting/homoposting
>>114688744>both Japaneseyes, and Cover is actually more retarded since NijiEN is at least still debuting new nijis
>All former ENID who don’t live in Japan will graduate by 2027Would this improve hololive or make it worse?
>>114688792This anon knows.>>114688816>WHAT is getting streamlinedIt's getting fired
>>114688835What kind of manager allowing this to happen?
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>>114688874We'll return to regularly scheduled timeloops once the retards realize that their angle was worthless.
>>114688834Kiara is more honest than any of those girls.
>>114688881wtf we need to merge homos too then
>>114687930so ratts were true other jps hate haachama for some reason
>>114688784you can always count on autofister!heavy rain kino soon™
>Mushroom is a fruitokay zeta
>>114688871>>114688867that is just pure cope
>>114688893the one that has none
>>114688912>CC will be busy with endless JP collabs like the Holodori and the Minecraft horror one>Gigi busy with her own stuff that she's planning like 3D live Lol, lmao
>>114688900>>114687538
>>114688905Haachama's got a lot of friends among the talent. Among the management, I couldn't say
>>114688900Some people can't understand that Kiara earned people's trust because of her extreme honesty.
>>114688905
I heard japan is great place for offpako
>>114688879Is would show shareholders that Cover isn’t worth investing in since their IP is worthless without the talents. So overall bad.
Watching Reine tomorrow will be interesting
Protip: Kiara is only "Honest" when she agrees with my Narrative.
>>114688871>>114688867so how is mine "it will be shit in the future" less valid than your "it will be better in the future" postingin the end only time will tell what's gonna happen but merging branches does not sound appealing at all and it looks more like a sign of defeat than anything
>>114688948She's still eating chinese pasta?
>>114688961Name one time Kiara ever exaggerated anything
>>114688963Defeat by who? Hololive doesnt have competition.
>>114688961all of Kiara's doomposting came true tho
>>114688961No, she's always honest which is why she's always getting into trouble, because her brain won't let her close her mouth ever.
>hololiveNeXT is just systemd>Kiara is Lunduke.
>>114688731 (me)Since he dodged the question, I guess it's the 30k schizo.
>>114688950Biboo knows this very well
>>114688981you can only be blind for this long, anon
>finally watched a biboo clip talking about the merger>she's just saying that "other ENs are not source of answers" for internal happenings because they don't know eitherwtf i thought she's trying to shit talk Kiara when she said this. there's nothing of the sort where she's implicating Kiara there! did /#/ fucking lied to me again?
>>114688985Trust cute wife (mostly)
>>114688902they get to merge with bin
NIMI EN GOLD!
>>114689005>did /#/ fucking lied to me again?Yep
>>114689000Cant answer, because you know the alternatives are deader than dead?
>>114688792>In what world is less staff going to make things better for EN and ID?when most of them are useless retards that serve no purpose and still have to abide to JPs management
>>114688863They've been doing things outside of Japan and there isn't any reason to think that they'd stop.Besides, if this move really was about soft terminating non JP branches and activities they wouldn't have announced it the way that they did and DEVICE wouldn't have been involved.
GO TO HELL!NIGGA JUST DID
>>114688997No wonder hakka is so happy
>>114688979Extra protip: Remember to shit on other holos who feel differently from Kiara
>>114689032yeah because the branches didn't compete with each other, retardwe literally know they constantly talk about performance in the meetings
>>114688961YES, and lying bitch when she disagrees
>>114689052What branch?
>>114689005every post here is a work of fiction
>>114689050When they're contradicting Kiara's words and implying she's a liar like Biboo did? I'll shit on them.
>>114689005pebbles are in deep trouble
>>114689005/#/s? lying?i dont know anon we dont do that here
>>114689071except those that are true
>>114687351>forced greamreaper slop
>>114689070yeah you're right, it's just individuals competing with each other now lol
The world refuses to listen to the Austrians when they tell the truth for some reason.
https://x.com/ayunda_risu/status/2097301582891430249/
>>114689096What competition?
>>114689005she was saying Kiara is having woman moment and should not be taken seriously
Oh it's getting bad out there y'all Phasecucks and Pebblebots are going at each other's throats! The merger is causing a vtuber fanbase world war!
>>114689005Did the clip include the part where she first told chat to not ask her about it as she has no clue? the part where she said to not ask the other girls was an afterthought so the other girls don't get ambushed by questions too.Biboo didn't have time to notice Kiara's meltdown as she spent all day trying to think if she could fill her response with memes or not
>>114689005Maybe Biboo shouldn't speak for others and claim to know what the other members know.
>>114689113you're free to stay blind, it does not concern me
>>114689090>GremreaperFuck yeah I WONNERED so hard
>>114689108>New costume>She's a male nowYeah Holostars is definitly dead
>>114689108risu is going to replace the homos
>>114687849I mean they probably know it's bad that's why they keep it vague and just slow boil the egg about the whole downsizing it will be a long time before people start asking about ENreco or the concert (no talent allowed to comment on it) obviously they've waited after everything this year was finished so it buys them a long time, no official announcement means there is nothing to rally over again it will take a long time for hardcore fans to figure out there is nothing or actually that lame "thing B" like a mini-concert on some smelly con with some EN and ID talents actually was the replacement.
>they're competing with each other now lolcan someone tell the sister to go back to her thread
Protip #2: Never trust a person on its way out.
>>114689125Cant name any?
>>114689005She's still kinda speaking for Kiara though, indirectly saying "she doesn't know". What if she does know? What if talking about it breaks NDA?
>>114687889>>114688614REMEMBER NIJISANJI COLLABED WITH NBA >:)
>>114689125Yet you keep replying to my posts (even if you don't answer my questions)
>>114689108>male outfitI mean lol
>>114689108What a way of spoiling the outfit.
>>114688614>japanyawn
watching peko
>>114689123she exactly said that on the same clip i watched
>>114689119Oh Donnie you brownoid what have you done!
>>114689075This is just routine at this point>Kiara says something retarded>Instantly gets disproven by multiple people>shit on the people who disprove Kiara's assessment So the cycle continues
>>114689192>She hasn't said anything since She might have killed herself guys
>>114689192stop posting this and go to sleep
>>114689191That doesn't change the fact that she did it anyway.
>>114689157Rakuten :p
>>114689145>>114689096Sorry I have low T so I couldn't respond directly
>>114688627kiara is never rightshe's a stupid pissy woman
>>114688137shut the fuck up Roli
Fck you holodrone
why is the fubuki thread locked?
>>114688201I won't give up.
>>114688009how is this going against any narrative again?
THIS IS NOT A DRILLFUWAMOCO ENGLISH STREAMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abKHLvPa56Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abKHLvPa56Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abKHLvPa56Y
Calling it a merger is on the same level as calling talents livers or gens waves
>>114689235It's the damage control, to the failed damage control, to the failed damage control
>>114689210your fantasies aren't facts
>>114689225upset about what?
>>114687678En management has been pretty good post-omega, their biggest roadblock was getting jp management above them to sign off on anything..which is not a problem that's been solved and has now only been made worseTook marine years just to get a no, remember
>>114689245yeah I'm sure it will be in English lmao
>>114689201Doesnt help that Kiara is closer with her indie friends over other holos, it was always going to end up like this. In reality, she should have probably left with the rest at that time, now shes in limbo.
>>114689246Yeah, for a merger to happen, two companies need to be involved.
>>114689225Ollie being upset is a good thing
wtf
>>114689258
>>114687978This collab was most likely scheduled before the merger so it's not indicative of anything.
>>114689245At least they're not playing with Gigi, that's a plus.
>>114687612>gura the dying consistent flake>mumei finishing paying for college and immediately leaving to go do her internship>fauna leaving to LITERALLY suck homostar cockCOVER WASN'T THE FUCKING PROBLEM
>>114689267what is it with you retards and being blind?
>>114689256maybe Biboo should keep to herself and not judge other holomems
no more branches means no more branch budget btwnow all holos are going to get treated like the homos with support being based on individual performance and viability of proposed projects/ideas etc.
>>114689278??
>>114688341BASED!
>>114689259>defending tranny poledancerThis is why Holoantis are reduced to
>>114689286>management that forced the girls to end up that way wasn't the problem
>>114689285 Because Gigi is EN, they'll invite Polka and Lui though, especially the latter to shill the new song
>>114689256You don't have very good reading comprehension.
>>114689307no, it's because Gigi is annoying
so the newest cope is>cant be a merge because it has to involve two companiesnow?
>>114689289She did, also literally said to not bother other girls and go and watch the actual stream for information.
this is a real screenshot from the stream
Isn't the unified hololive great? So many wonderful new partnerships and groups now that barriers are gone.
>>114689306>management forced fauna to suck homocockAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>114686718You can nkw report this for advertising vtubers outside Hololive productions because the homos aren't Hololive Productions anymore
>>114689306Wow, management forced Mumei to leave after it's not funding college anymore?And gave Gura terminal 7?And FORCED Fauna to have sex with an ex-homo and leave to get knocked up to be female northernlion?WOW, THEY'RE EVIL
>>114689119Yup it's HoloEN fans vs HoloJP fans vs HoloID fans vs Phase fans for some reason vs Indie fans vs Niji fans, forget a Holo civil war it's the first ever vtuber world war!
>>114689320the actual stream gives no information though?
>>114689316No because they want to shill their merch to the JPs
>>114689321Monogatari is a 20 year old anime, who cares?
Every talent that does not share the same sentiments as kiara is considered as traitor and a cover bootlicker
>>114689316We love gigi here
>>114689317yeah we call it restructuring now
>>114689339Whatever they had is what was said there, everything else is gossip and drama.
>>114689344Both can be true. Shilling to JP and also Gigi is annoying.
>>114689328>>114689334>didn't give EN the funding they need>didn't approve of EN's projects>didn't give EN enough rest days yeah, retard
Only 4?
>>114689338No no it's a Holo civil war, Holo ID and EN vs JP fans. Phase, indies, Niji are just observing and commentating on it
>>114689362whatever you say retarded pebble lol
>>114689364>gura>not enough rest daysLmao, faggot.
>>114689364why would Fauna need funding to suck homocock wtf?
>>114689364>gura>mumei>Fauna>needing funding>the flake>the forever student never around>the one too busy saving for her fucking wedding fund with a homo to do a 3D live
>>114689370>all the bad onesNo one cares
>>114689286You're right, we needed more management-friendly hacks with no individual identity or spine
>>114689373Enjoy your indie avengers lol.
>>114689370Apparently 4 = half of Hololive production
>>114689389TRVKE
>>114688585She doesn't always watch only the dodgers. She has sometimes only watched the cubs
why is Kiara the only one having a woman moment of this proportion
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>>114689375You know how many of her projects they rejected because nip boomers don't get what is popular in the West?>>114689377>Why would Fauna need incentive to stay around we don't need to fund any of her covers Retard>>114689386It's called employee welfare, I guess Cover can give them even less of it now that they've killed the branch
>>114689406She's emotional and expressive
>>114689370It seems like it's hard to find people who aren't cowards in Hololive.
>>114689371What about holostars?
>>114689416heh
>>114689419>employee welfareIt's against Japanese business culture
>>114689406>why is KiaraBecause shes a loud retard, thats the source of all her problems
>>114689406Because she's right, she knows she's right but no one listens to her.
>>114689315you don't even have a grasp of reality
>>114689419Shes free to do those projects now, she never gave a fuck.
>>114689370Everytime i see it's just the shitters whining. i'm more convinced it's a good thing.
>>114689444it will come with time, people will be in for a rude awakening next year
>>114689429Oh yeah stars fans are also battling it out with the other Holofanbase
>>114689444>>114689465KFcuck melty
>>114689419>employee welfareWhat, did Fauna need extra fertility pills or something?
so how do you know former EN and ID is magically going to get everything they for now?
>>114689119>Pebbles dropping the F-slurI see why Grems and Pebbles don't get along
>>114689493they want*
>>114689419>Why would Fauna need incentive to stay aroundthe same Fauna that never made a single 3D live? the same Fauna that stopped making asmr streams? the same Fauna throwing everyone under the bus for Gunrun's "TALENT FREEDOM!" scam? why would someone like that need an incentive for anything
>>114689481No, I'll just wait and see. I trust Kiara's word.
>>114689271I don't really care about Kiara's relations with indies or holos. The problem is she can't be a retard in isolation and it always spills over to other people and it gets annoying. I could make a supercut of Kiara's contradictions. You can express your apprehensions without going super retard. Mori expressed her apprehensions without going retard. Bae expressed her apprehensions without going retard. Ina did. But Kiara goes out of her way to make these definitive ass statements about things she's not even sure of which is very annoying
>>114689493In theory that's the point of the merger, isn't it?
>>114689493They're not lolIt's all going to high performers, and even the biggest en are just roboco tier turbo runts
>>114689493only mori, everyone else is shoved to the sidelines
>>114689523Go ahead and make your supercut. You seem super eager. Post every example. Don’t half ass it either with mixing in your own opinions. Just facts only.
>>114689540>and even the biggest en are just roboco tier turbo runtssurely you have proof of this right?
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>>114689119>WHY ARE YOU SHITTING ON DUBAI YOU'RE NOT A PHASEFANThe fuck?
This wouldn't have been quite as bad if they pushed it to next month instead of quite literally ripping away the branches sixth anniversary Way to kill the fucking mood and sour everyone on your decision
