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EN 6th anniversary ruined wont be having a 7th but it the merger is ''meaningless'' to numbertards
This one
>>114695779Who this?
EN must all feel like humiliated second-class citizens except FWMC who want to be token foreigner slaves
>if Roboco is so dumb how come AI just solved one of the Millenium Prize problems?https://x.com/OpenAI/status/2097374640582668336HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!
>>114695753Funny thing about that. Navier-Stokes was actually solved months earlier by humans, they ran their solution throught Codex, and then suddenly a month later OpenAI announces they have the exact same solution. The humans to who solved it first reached out to OpenAI about this, and OpenAI's response was to threaten to "ruin their career" if they went public.
>>114695823Only Kiara feels that way because she is a imposter syndrome mentally ill loser.
>>114695838nice
>>114695833If your oshi isn't acting llike this she doesn't actually love hololive
>>114695823Already confirmed to be a nothingburger for everyone except Kiara
former holoen chuubas will be humiliated now that they'll be under same umbrella as the jp juggernauts, noombers wise
>>114695833>love you guysLuv U too Kiara Takanashi <3
Did the two anons who actually like Hololive get banned for posting about Jesus
>>114695753is this the one they stole or it's the other one? (maybe they stole that one too)
>>114695779WHO??????????
EN tally is only phase vs niji now since Hololive isn't EN anymore
Since this is the # thread, what's the chance we ever get an exclusive English speaking talent again? Since I doubt fucking Cover will even debut a full English speaking gen of 4. Give me a number out of 100.
>>114695838I wonder if AI can solve pic related via brute force.
>>114695874Grim if true
>>11469589810-15%. This is a clear signal they'll only debut people who have the best RoI, which means JP exclusive.
>>114695779Seriously who tf is this?
>>114695898/#/ should be merged
>>114695898Zero, if they left ID for dead and current EN talents don't think they'll get their own concert this year then it's clear the Cover doesn't see any growth in the EN vtubing market similar to their stance on ID.
>>114695926yeah with trash
>>114695891You started your own? I already saw yesterdays get posted, it was Biboo gold, Mori silver, Nimi bronze.
>>114695898auditions are open
>>114695874Thread is exclusively antis so it must be
>>114695935It's funny because a Holo-less EN Tally would be a complete wasteland unless you lower the requirement to like 500 CCV
>>114695954Well, you heard the announcement. Too bad for you
>>114695954lower it to 1k
If you're brown I can help:Hololive has 4 EN gens and 3 ID gensThere will be a 5th EN gen
Let's see the new EN tally. I'm curious
>>114695946Yea, so they don't get called out for discrimination against non-jap applicants. Cause you can't tell me they can't find four girls over fucking two years now.
>>114695972This thread is not endorsed by Cover, are you ok? Tallyanon can post it or not.
>>114695833>>114695860What's different for her compared to Ina, Kronii, Shiori, ERB, CC, and Gigi?
>>114695898I think eventually, at some point, we will get 1 more EN gen, just to calm people down who think the branch is dying on the vineThat's it though, no more aftewards
>>114695997EN is dead
>>114696001I think we should respect the merger
>>114695898Chances are extremely low we ever see anything like EN5 or ID4. The dissolution of holoEN and holoID makes that fairly clear. Best we'll get is one person in a unit that can speak relatively decent English.
>>114695954Just start including twitchniggers. I mean why not, it's not any more arbitrary than including non-ENs in an EN tally.
https://www.youtube.com/live/Vxp6wu8cOM4?t=5658Seriously, why is this allowed? It's honestly fucking disgusting.
*SEPTEMBER 8TH 2026 FINAL EN TALLY*>9,082: Bijou (Hololive Advent)>7,586: Calliope (Hololive Myth)>6,290: Nimi (Indie)A rose, by any other name, is still Hololive. Gold for Koseki Bijou's playthrough of Onimusha Way of the Sword, Silver for Mori Calliope's playthrough of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Bronze for Nimi Nightmare's playthrough of Abiotic Factor alongside Limealicious.>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)Calliope = 13pBijou = 11pKronii = 6pBaelz = 5pGigi = 3pIRyS, Nimi = 2pIna'nis, Clio = 1p
>>114696015Up to tallyanon, not me.
I hate Kalanashi Khuyara.
>>114696025kys sis
>>114695874The fact that Scott is one of the best posters in this thread has me doubting other posters now
Dang I wanted to see more feathers fly
>>114695998>looks around the wasteland that is western vtubingyeah I can
>>114695946they are open but native level Japanese is mandatory.
>>114696019nice try ennacuck
>>114696042All the verified posts of his are just images of holos and the correct take
>>114696078damn, even FWMC, Bae and Kiara are nowhere close to native level
>>114696078>is mandatoryno it's not
>>114696078I mean, you literally have no information on that, just vague shit from mori.
>>114696072swap ina and mori's place
Do you guys have that one video of Kiara saying all that shit about White people out of the blue on stream? The one that doesn't cover the entire video in a collage edit of some random xitter whore?I saw the edit a while back on both here and Xitter, I've been trying to look for the original for a while. Having trouble finding it. ENcucked friend couldn't find it either.
>>114696005Nobody but Kiara knows
>>114696042>>114696096Embarrassing cuck samefagging
>>114696072ultimate twitterfag tierlist
When I first got into this hobby people acted as if you were a retard for not learning Japanese for subbed anime, now people aren't willing to learn Japanese for literal Japanese women
>>114696005she have some other long term issue of at least few months and it's not getting any better, hard to say what it is maybe they're pushing too much pointless homework? Very hard to say but management was shit for a while.
>>114696175I can learn Japanese to shit on Cover more accurately
>>114695838Holy shitRoboco is still in the company
>>114696175Why would anyone learn a dead language to watch NTR whores?
>>114695851sounds like bullshit
Let's be real, the only reason some like Kiara being overly dramatic about the merge is just because they lose their made up special status, they can no longer pretend that they are EN or ID Sora
>>114696130>>114696134just go to the hololive audition page and be amazed.residency in Japan is a requirement now too apparently.
>>114696161Every time I see this image I think the poster is retardedIs that 5 IPs
>>114695998They were accepting applications but they weren't lookingThe cope they gave us was "we want to make sure current talents are taken care of"
>>114696157Herehttps://x.com/overcockedkimch/status/2075629700299571652
>>1146962074
>>114696190If you don't believe me, feel free to look at the numerous replies in the linked xeet calling them out and giving credit to the original authors.
>>114696197>we will no longer respect your branch as different and specialThat sounds like an entirely valid reason
>>114696207It's 4, but 2 of them are the same person.
>>114696175The Japanese language isnt even my big problem with JP streams. It's that the timezone difference is fucking ASSLike my options for some of these events and collabs is just be a vodfag or nuke my sleep schedule. I can do one or two events at 4AM a year, I dont want fucking more of these
>>114696078
>>114696005I feel like Kiara loved to brag a lot about being Myth and getting to hang out with Gura the #1 VTuber
>>114696207Ironic considering it's only 2, retard
>>114696217Is this real?
>>114696005Kiara wants constant 3D/music/promotion stuff while the rest of those just want to coast or keep doing what they've been doing.Bae and IRyS are already getting a sololive so they're fine and Mori is basically her own thing.
>>114696217lmao how did they recreate her cadence so perfectly>trans atlantic slave tradekiara literally is not educated enough to say these words back to back
>>114696225>>114696238...
>>114696005None of those care about EN as a brand.We will literally never get English language concerts, events, anything, ever again. But those girls don't care so long as they can do sponsored video game streams
/#/ post of the day>>114689736thanks to everyone who stopped looping.
>>114696284Now you understand why these anons can't be trusted Scott is legit
>>114696206https://audition.hololivepro.com/enstop lying, retard
>>114696242>he believes "welcome skills" in a job description is optionalngmi
>>114696285Well yeah. At some point you accept it and move on. This is Hololive
>>114696291that's what i've been saying!
>>114696285Just because they aren't flipping out publicly doesn't mean they aren't upset or worried for the future. We shouldn't expect every member to publicly badmouth the company they work for.
>>114696310It's fun seeing the Nips see us as the schizos for a change
>>114696295It's funny you can't spam when you're on your phone, cuck
>>114696312Mori saying she's not gonna bother protesting or fighting anymore when she famously went on a two week strike this year should be the real red flag
>stand up comedianDid they treat the meme as something serious?
confirmed lesbian holos?
>>114696242you have never applied for a job and it shows
>>114696175>literal Japanese womenI only watch EN though?
>>114696326Scott is married?
>>114696332cover doesnt care about you
1. Cover's management is universally dogshit2. They are out of touch with the western audience3. Yagoo didn't even know about the dire state of EN until 4 talents had fucked off4. No new EN talents 3rd year in a row5. EN talents are unsure if they will get another concert5. Fold EN and ID into JP6. Announce an anime without ENs and new JP genI can't fucking imagine putting this list on a whiteboard, give it a green light and expect no backlash. Management does this shit and says that the management is going to be better after the merge. Then company's mouthpiece decides to do some damage control. Cover's 4d chess moves are beyond my comprehension
>>114696332Not anymore you don't.
>>114696304I got my job as an interpreter despite not having any English proficiency certificate (IELTS, TOEFL, British Council, etc)That's what interviews are for. We have six HoloEN talents who don't speak a lick of Japanese
>>114696342Watch something else, I dare you.
>>114695410The explanation from diehard weebs is that nips companies are defending the quality of their product, or maintaining a class of experience by not appealing to foreigners. But it doesn't seem like that's what's happening here. It's not like Gura and Mumei were so odious to their precious idol brand when they were around. They're just defaulting back to their domestic market because it's the path of least resistance and they're scared to try something different. I guess it's a valid business decision but let's not pretend like they aren't just taking their ball and going home because they aren't flexible enough to adapt to the tastes of foreigners.
>>114696342>Cover's 4d chess moves are beyond my comprehensionThis seems like a fun topic. How are they so smart? Help me out, anons
>>114696361Where is the *real* tally for EN
>>114696340He's saying Scott is a cuck for being a hololive fan, not you
>>114696342They've very obviously given up on the overseas market and are not even trying anymore. It's actually understandable from a business perspective, no reason to debut a whole new EN gen when they could make more money at 1/50th the cost from a single Pekora merch release, but pretty disappointing none the less.
>Oh FlowGlow was a success? Kill the branch>Oh HoloH3ro was a success? Kill the branch >Oh Justice was a success? Kill the Branch>Oh Armis was a complete flop? They can stay.Cover has impeccable business sense.
>>114696382You're a cuck for watching whores, not hololive.
>>114696361why are you intentionally picking low ccv streamers mousey is first army level and mogs all of holoEN
>>114696374This is all there is. If you want to LARP about HoloEN not existing anymore you're left with the piece of shit that is Phase, the corpse of NijiEN, V4Marriage and Nimi playing absolute garbage with Twitch whos as collab partners.Enjoy
>>114696362What's funny is the amount of people defending it as if they wouldn't shit on any other company doing it. Very reminiscent of today's political discourse of a thing being bad until my political party does it, then all of a sudden it's a genius move. Totally rational and not cultlike behavior.
>>114696402Isn't your whole thing about Scott shitting on Nimi?
>>114696227EN and ID are just side branch they exist because of the main branch, you don't get to claim to be the founder or pioneers, that's actually disrespectful towards the JP because it denied their contribution, acting like EN or ID exist because of them
>>114696418>>114696361
>>114696394>>>Oh HoloH3ro was a success? Kill the branchWhat the fuck is HoloH3ro?
>akshually the homobeggars were right that ID is next, and in fact this is good because they deserve to get axed>akshually we never liked EN despite worshipping the normiest, whitest, most anti-JP bitch as our "queen" for the majority of the threads lifespan>akshually, behaving like Meloco is based and redpilled and all of them should do it
>>114696361You think that not watching Hololive means you're obligated to watch other vtubers and that makes you retarded.
>>114696394Those are successes in the sense they made money, but they are actually losses because of the opportunity cost. They could have focused on existing assets and made more money, so every one of those moves was actually a mistake that hurts the shareholders' pocketbooks. It's like how MTG doesn't do blocks anymore, and moved away from their own lore universe to just release Spider Man and TMNT stuff. Any time they release a block or a set from MTG lore, they are voluntarily losing money, because they could have released something else that would make more money instead. So blocks are completely gone and never coming back, while MTG universe sets are dwindling while more and UB sets get released.
>>114696394>Oh FlowGlow was a success?No one said this. Pekora, Suisei, and Subaru were successful, not Vivi, Riona, and Su>Oh HoloH3ro was a success? ID3 isn't 3 Kobos, sadly it's only 1>Oh Justice was a success?Europe proved for the 6th year in a row why Cover was correct to not consider them a valuable audience>Oh Armis was a complete flop? They can stay.Not for long, just you wait.
>>114696426Kek
>>114696442Great, so you don't watch anything and your opinion is worthless/b/ has a very nice OTK thread
I'm back, who is winning?
>>114696426Use your brain, cuck. Nimi is in the same boat as azki. And stop talking about yourself in third person it's cringe
>>114696304>>114696331what the fuck are you retards yapping about???this was on the site for years and they debuted people who don't know japaense at all just fine. Actually the whole justice is like that.It's like I'm talking to actual braindead retards. What fucking job applications are you talking about? You both are like 12 MAX
cover probably looked into the make up of holoEN's ccv and realized 50% or more of it is just JP fans anyway
>>114696414>If you want to LARP about HoloENHoloEN does not exist anymore. It was absorbed into hololive, the Japanese branch. The HoloEN brand was immediately removed from every members' description as soon as it was announced that the branch had been closed, because it doesn't exist. None of these facts are even remotely disputable.
>>114696463That's not what I said, it just shows how stupid you are.
>>114696477Wow so Scott is right and you're a cuckposter
i like how the conversation has now become holos begging people to stop asking for kiara to be slapped
sex with depressed kiara?
>>114696345>We have six HoloEN talents who don't speak a lick of Japanesesure this was fine back then when an English branch existed and they are grandfathered in.new gens will need to follow the hololive (JP) standards tho.so personally I'd prepare for talents to be more like A-chan or Peo rather than previous EN gens.
>>114696361What's the point of this post? What are trying to communicate? Watch phase because cover is retarded? Unrelated: phasewhores did more to tardwrangle their retards than Fauna
ERB is posting like a facebook aunt
>>114696342Fold EN during its anniversary week and also announced a new JP gen in the same stream.
>>114696484Cool, enjoy your EN VTubers
>>114696491That should be obvious
>>114696493that's not what they're talking about, no one is shitting on kiara outside of /here/. they're refering to people going schizo on the dogs for dancing on holoen's grave.
>>114696493No one is asking for Kiara to be punished, they want whoever decided to shut down Hololive EN to be killed.
>>114696516i dont know how to tell you this but....
>>114696472Definitely not Kiara KEK
>>114696500nonconsensual sex with Kiara, i am nonconsenting one
>>114696503No it's even simplerHoloEN will still be the #1 EN group of VTubers forever and ever because everything else is pozzed AIDS. Any doomposting would be relevant if other VTubers weren't pozzed AIDS.
>>114696536>they're refering to people going schizo on the dogs for dancing on holoen's grave.He's right, you know.Justice should behead FWMC for being disgusting traitor Meloco-clones.
>>114696527What is this supposed to prove? Yes, EN vtubing is dead outside of 3view shitters and Twitch whores. Cover killed it. RIP.
The real losers are the chuuni power scalers who now have to put Nerissa in the same universe as neet and nurse demons like Towa and Choco.
>>114696565there it is. just like saplings, shitting on the girls as soon as they disagree with Lady Kiara. /hlgg/ has been a wreck too
>>114696551>But EN will get less stuffPeople will not stop watching>But there will be graduationsPeople will not stop watching >But there will be JP only streamsThose are 5view streams, are you kidding me?If you want anything to happen, find an EN VTuber that is not pozzed AIDS and can get more than 10 viewers. You tried with Nimi and look how that turned out.
>>114696582They started as losers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iWKB-Tq8aAhave you listened to fuwamoco lewdly baubau'ing today yet?the song already has over 200k views barely 24 hours after release!
>>114696575That nobody thats not hololive ever mattered? You can interpret it however you want.
Gura was not only the backbone of Hololive EN but also of the entire EN vtubing.
>>114696575Great. Who is your oshi
>all these little meek JP girls sitting in the 3d studio >in comes erb, visibly taller than everyone even the men >heavier than the men too>h...hai erb - miko says meekly >OH HOHOHOHO HEY MIKO >ERB's thunderous gaijin voice easily penetrates the paper thin walls of the studio >outside car alarms go off, people run for cover, its the first time they heard a noise over 15 decibels
>>114696617Surely they are used at Mori by now
>>114696042He seems like the type of person who is honest to a fault which makes him unique for this thread
>>1146965012 things1st you are stupid2nd you are talking out of your assbasically a troglodyte
Vedal and Ironmouse are more popular than any of the HoloENs.
>>114696551>HoloENDoesn't exist anymore along with ID. You can continue to cope and make up excuses but this is an undeniable fact :)
>>114696501Peo speaks English 99% of the time nigga, the only reason she never got into the EN Tally was because she was a Jap and never got the numbers to do it
Jap autisms ability to ''love'' someone until they say something about about the company and then those same people do a 180 is so strange to americans no wonder you guys retreated from EN, you just dont ''get'' americans
>>114696646Vedal's average right now is 5.8k
not gonna lie a girl who can't speak Japanese is a huge red flag >Gura>Ame>Fauna>Mumeiit's strange there are people who want more girls like this
>>114696658lol she 100% was talking about the merger huhfrankly situation in murica is so bad I dunno if doing another concert there will be even viable next yearwe'll see tho
>>114696675>the best EN's never spoke JP
>>114696646Technically random shitters are more popular than HoloENs, because "HoloENs" is now an empty set. They're all just runt to mid holoJPs now.
>>114696677Serendipity sold just fine despite stacking every debuff imaginableIt's just not enough for Cover's suits they want to axe all of EN and completely retreat from the market.
Are you guys really still unable to accept that Hololive ENGLISH is dead?
>>114696658If you ask the average EN fan whether they would rather go to a concert that has Raora or Suisei, which do you think they would answer?
holo will never recapture the magic of gura fauna ame and mumei because they dont hire real ENs anymore
Phase is now the worlds biggest EN vtuber org kek
>>114696690holoJp is not a thing too
>>114696703It didn't sell out. That's not "just fine" from a business perspective.
>>114696300>enThat’s the old outdated page EN no longer exists
>To own the /#/chuds I'm going to pretend like Mori Biboo and today Ceci didn't just pulverize every other EN VTuber like they have done for years
>>114696709WE ARE HOLO ENWE CARRY THE FLAME
>>114696714Raora doesnt even do karaoke, sounds like a retarded example.
>>114696703nobody is getting axed
>>114696659Peo wants to be an American so she would hate the merge. I want to experience an American Peo Summer so badly
>>114696717meme of the guy spraying champaign on the podium but there's literally no one else there
>>114696689>best
>>114696726you wanted them to lose money?
>>114696730All three of those people live in japan or plan to move there they're Japanese so if they beat EN vtubers doesn't matter because they're not EN
Am I the last real poster?Hololive won btw
>>114696730>ENThey're JP talents now anon
>Ayame stream 3 times this month
>>114696749>pretending gura was not the greatest vtuber >pretending fauna was not /#/s darling >pretending ame didnt craft kino events >pretending mumei was not beloved
>>114696734Mori's comments and my question were not about karaoke. Raora participated in the EN concert. If she might get cut for a JP singer like Suisei, do you think the average fan will prefer Raora or Suisei?
>>114696727>That’s the old outdated pagesays who? new logo is there yet requirements are still the same so yeah not only you are retarded but also WRONG https://audition.hololivepro.com/ is basically the same too
>>114696730In their own category, JP, they are getting pulverized by actual heavyweights.
>>114696730We're also going to ignore the fact that their average CCV is half of what it was last year, right?
>>114696291towa propaganda even in japan...
>>114696773Kino events like Worms and singing duets with Blue Homo
>>114696761they are hololive talents
>>114696773uh oh darkie
>>114696756THD anon got a 3 day ban an hour ago 0
>>114696782...why do you think Biboo's average last year was like 20k
>>114696784find me one event post graduation wave on par with the spelling bee
>>114696773>>pretending gura was not the greatest vtuberonly if you were delusional enough to not see how weird her shit was since day one... and especially when it became very bad after she stopped streaming normally
>>114696798was he schizoing out at Nerissa again I wasn't following
>>114696491Scott is a cuck*
>>114696780HoloEN's average (6.4k) is 3 times bigger than NijiJP'sGo ahead do Holo vs Holo like every single month ever
>>114696802Anon.... twice 6K is 12K
>>114696791Yes JP talents. The EN seat is now vacant
My take is still "it's about $$$" as a foreshadowed it here >>111848094By integrating, they basically degrade their Japanese brand since the "EN shart EOPs" are part of the community, this means that if they wish to express their views, the nips must listen to them and there's no gracefulness in that, some smarter Cover bootlickers like SephirothSword have already grasped the implications of the merger and been against it.
>>114696828wrongyou are retarded
>>114696821No nigga I remember Biboo's average on April or May 2025, or Mori's or Bae'sWhy do you think it was that fucking big
They keep saying HoloENs even though they don't exist anymore.
>>114696752This is what you don't get. They DID lose money. They could have done a concert in Japan that would have made more money, so Serendipity was a loser. It didn't even sell out. They won't make that mistake again.
>>114696809From what I understand the Catholic-protestant thing is heavy in Scotland and he is individualistic.The posts got deleted last thread
>>114696832>some smarter Cover bootlickers like SephirothSwordyou know that guy is a joke character right
>>114696841Because of the data?
>one concert doesn't sell out while under massive debuff from world events >YAGOOOO PULL THE PLUG EN IS OVER AIEEEEEthis is unironically what happened japs do this all the time
>>114696855You don't lose money with 11,000 tickets sold out of 11,960.Hell for all the jokes, Halfsold Serenade PROBABLY turned on a profit too.
>To own the /#/chuds, I'm going to livestream my gender-affirming surgery to become a real womanFeeling silly, huh, numberchuds??
>>114696820HoloEN's average is 0, because it has 0 members, streaming to 0 concurrent viewers.
You retards do realize that hololiveEN was still a japnese corpo?Now that there's no "en" moniker... it is still a japanese corpo.
>>114695898I don't think it happens any time soon. They need new JP blood to sell new merch sets and 3D debuts and all that now that everyone has crossed that milestone and the mekkies aren't good enough yet. Even if we do get a 'new EN' in a few years, I think it's going to be a smaller than normal filler type of debut where each gen with a graduated member gets a new one or something. Or a complete reorganization of EN with new 'units' among the survivors at that point.
>>114696879I still can't get over how dumb this is lmaoWhat was the fucking point
>>114696893Shut up Scott
>>114696774I think speculating about something like that is to early and childish really. Suisei is a big and popular artist. I doubt she would all of a sudden start getting plugged in to this and that concert out of nowhere.
>>114696832>he's stupid enough to not get the jokehuh would you look at that
>>114696896this is akin to millies ''wait what happened'' post
>>114696877They lost money because, instead of putting resources to doing a concert in LA, they could have done a concert in Osaka that made more money. The purpose of a business is to create value for shareholders.
Do you think Mori's strike has anything to do with the merger? She was complaining that she wasn't treated the same as the JPs.
The merge being good or bad can be answered by looking at the homos. Do you think that them being not merged is a good thing for them or not?
>>114696774Can hololive afford Studio Stellar's appearance fees?
https://www.youtube.com/live/sS5I-EUFfJcMiko addressing the branch merger, summary in pic:(3:45:24) "That topic was also pretty big news, wasn't it."(3:45:28) "Well, everyone was quite active on the timeline, but it's not like anything is disappearing or that an existence is... whatever."(3:45:39) "I don't think it's a negative thing."(3:45:44) "But when something that had a shape ceases to have one, you do feel lonely, and I understood why [fans] would think that."(3:45:54) "Since I'm JP, well, but even in the profile section, it's like, 'Well, maybe it's time we also use a unit name,' it's that kind of flow."(3:46:13) "It's the flow, right?"(3:46:14) "It's not that [the entity] has disappeared."(3:46:16) "The EN members will remain EN members, and I still fully recognize them as those members."(3:46:30) "I think the listeners probably feel the same way."(3:46:39) "Saying things like 'Oh, we can't do [EN] anymore,' such sad things—honestly, I feel like, 'You guys shouldn't be the ones saying that!'"(3:46:54) "It won't change, right?"(3:46:59) "It won't change. Well, but the fact that JP and EN, JP and ID will do more various projects together—like, what should I call it, various collaborations and such."(3:47:17) "There are all sorts of things, right?"(3:47:20) "I think things like that will increase even more. Well, we're already doing it, though."(3:47:23) "Even if the Harajuku Hololive Production place has JP and EN members mixed together, it doesn't really change."(3:47:34) "It doesn't change anything at all."(3:47:41) "That's what I think."(3:47:50) "Will we get a shared office too? I want to see that! Well, surely that will happen, right?"(3:47:59) "It'll happen, Hololive-kun."(3:48:03) "If you think about the positive side, I think it's happy."(3:48:09) "Actually, I had been thinking ever since the explanation about the device [system] being created that 'integration will come eventually.'"(3:48:21) "I thought it might become that way."(3:48:24) "Because there were things within the 'stomach' [internal changes] too, and Miko, originally, the company... how should I put it, I was doing solo activities, but eventually we merged, after all."(3:48:44) "After all, it's Hololive, right?"(3:48:53) "Even if you change the name or change the country, I still think, 'Well, it's Hololive, isn't it?'"(3:49:01) "From the listener's side, they are just Hololive members who haven't changed at all, right? That's what I think."(3:49:12) "That's what you think, right?"(3:49:18) "It's the same group, and as members, it's not like, 'Oh, if it's a device member...'"(3:49:25) "It's more like, 'Welcome, Hololive member!' isn't it?"(3:49:35) "That's what I thought, but..."(3:49:43) "The internal members don't change, right?"(3:49:50) "Regarding integration, it's more like an organizational direction, right? Well, that's true, I think that's also part of it."(3:50:00) "Is it so they don't complicate things?"(3:50:04) "Well, I don't know about the difficult adult organization stuff."(3:50:12) "But more than anything, moving towards the 10th anniversary... I think it should be a Hololive that can deliver lots of fun things and evolution."(3:50:29) "You really rely on Yagoo, right?"(3:50:34) "It means everyone is going to run towards the same direction, right?"(3:50:49) "Get along with your juniors, okay? Oh, I'm looking forward to it."(3:51:01) "They're finally coming, huh?"
>>114696916as long as you're making a profit you're creating value
>>114696239Pretty much. And I can't really bring myself to want to bother watching archives of stuff since most streams have so much filler and down time that you're just wasting time without being to chat live. And if you're using it as background noise then what's the point at all?
to protest holoEN being killed off i will leave EOP comments in your JP oshis chat
>>114696896Corporate cocksucking cunt
>>114696903And yet it's also 100% indisputably true. HoloEN does not exist anymore. If you're mad about it, tell Cover, not me.
>>114696917No because she folded like a lawn chair as soon as the merge was announced. Whatever she was complaining about before had nothing to do with this
>>114696936This is cope
>>114696783nips acting like they don't have entire websites dedicated to schizo anti insanity
>>114696916Shareholders have never matter and will never matter to Hololive, there is no dividends no exclusive benefits not even free merch, they get a glass of water every QnA and that's it.
>>114696948I don't care I haven't watched Hololive in years
beggars won btw
>>114696948Whos mad? Anons will keep watching their oshis, they will continue to not watch anything else, simple.
>>114696896I guess the Japanese also use pretending not to understand as a tactic.
>>114696936Based Miko confirming that even with the EN label removed they will still be treated like a second class side branch
>>114696936Holy copium. Why the fuck are the talents acting like the PR team?
>>114696936>right>right?>right>this is hololive, right?>hololive, isn't it?that's a lot of hand waving around two entire branch histories being erased because suits wanted it to be. If it isn't a big change then why do it at all and remove the identifies?
>>114696896Typical bootlicker
>>114696945Okayu will genuinely love it and respond!
>>114696962yeah im sure the publicly traded company doesn't care about investor sentiment
>>114696937Wrong. If you invest in rinky-dink stuff instead of stuff that will bring in the big bucks, you are leaving money on the table. Companies cannot do an unlimited number of things at once and have prioritize the things that will bring in the most money, or else they're betraying their shareholders' interests.
>>114696896Of course she doesn't understand. The only example western fans have of merging branches, means cutting the fat and fucking the talents in those branches. That's why normal fans show concern, fags here are just homosexuals though. Not that there's anything ok with that.
>>114696921Oh pfff fuck no, being excluded out of this system means they're not even considered part of the company anymore, I really don't know what will even happen to them from now on
>>114696967>beggars won btw
>>114696995Is English your second language or are you just dumb
>>114696984>rightthat's how the AI translate nye (ne)
so when erb collabs with dubais now its like they're collabing with pekora because erb and perkora are in the same branch
>>114696936>(3:46:14) "It's not that [the entity] has disappeared."
>>114697019I know, but the intention is still the same. She's acting like it's obvious what she's asking even though she's clearly playing dumb about shit. Unless she's actually that stupid about business in which case I was not familiar with her game at all.
>Nijien's rotting carcass lasted longer then HoloEN and IDFucking grim
>>114696983Because Cover never defend themselves
>>114697013You know nothing about business because you have never had a real job. Cheers.
>>114697034Riku is just a superior business man who understands the value of a long term investment
>>114696917This >>114696951 As soon as Mori found out he wasn't the biggest fish in the tank, she suddenly started loving Hololive again. Mori probably shit her pants.
>>114697034Are you back to spamming your reaction image folder after you seethed at the EN tally earlier? KWAB
Am I the only one who thinks this new tech for streaming looks cool?
Without the regulars this thread is pointless...One of them even calls it his thread... He might be right.
Don't you think Cover gave up on Hololive EN too soon?
>>114697046You are creating value if you're making a profit regardless of how much you could be makingShareholders what you to maximize the amount of value you're creating
https://x.com/Yogiri_hololive/status/2097001322281325047Yogiri has made a lot of posts for a retired vtuber. I wonder if she's a staff member for hololive.
>>114697060Yes
>>114697072thats not a real account
>>114696954>>114696983you lost
>>114697080lost whatthe EN branch?LMAO
>>114697060Why the fuck would I want the main screen to be some generic ass room thing instead of the actual game? fucking zoomers i swear
>>114697071if you could have one sold out show in japan and one almost sold out show in america but the american show costs more to set up you'd rather just do it in japan
>>114697060You don't watch them, they're just background noise to me.
>>114697080Technically true, EN fans did lose.
>>114697091Yes but you're still creating value, you haven't lost money, you've lost potential money
>>114697080Lost the EN branch yes.
>>114697060it is very very VERY pointless
>>114697112you could create more value by just hosting both shows in japan EN got outsourced like manufacturing in america going to china
>>114697060holoearth devs had to waste time on something so making something as pointless as this is right up their alley. Who the literal fuck asked for this? Yes you are the only one who thinks it is cool.
>>114697112>what is an opportunity cost, never heard of it
I will never ever let EN cucks live this down, for months they coped about "nuh uh there won't be a merge nice rrat" and look at what happened lmao. EN faggots continue to lose and seethe, all that coping about Serendipity flopping "totally not mattering" ended up meaning shit. Get fucking bent you losers
>unironically all repeating the same witless responseThis type of low intelligence is very nijiesque
>>114697144opportunity cost is losing potential money
>>114696936>It won't change, right?Yes, it has to change because that's what Cover wants, stupid retard.
>>114697060''guys what if we put the vtuber in the cuckchair and had her stare at wall during stream''
>>114696896>bootlicker prime surprised people dont like the taste she needs to get raped
>>114697091My prediction is that all concerts will be in venues in Japan moving forward. And the extent of international support will be showing it after the fact in movie theaters like they've been doing in Europe.
>>114696984I understand HoloEN's history and identityWhat's HoloID identity besides being the homocollab branch.
So far the main doomposters have been KFP, IDfags and Phasecucks. aka people who literally do not matter in the grand scheme of the holosphere
>>114696936It sounds like she liked to keep things separate for some reason.
>>114697033She's not asking she's reading the chat retard
>>114697087>>114697109>>114697117melty
Why does EN and ID even give a shit about "identity", JP never cared about that because they were always just Hololive. I think that really speaks volumes that the overseas branches didn't even consider themselves part of the main Holo group, but their own separate thing and now they are pissed because they'll be much more easily overshadowed by the actual relevant members in JP. I truly hope this leads to mass graduations, fuck the entire ID branch and pretty much most of the EN branch they're all just a bunch of shitters
>>114697179>gura leaving doesn't matter >ame leaving doesn't matter >mumei leaving doesn't matter >fauna leaving doesnt matter >EN ccv being lower than 2024 doesn't matter >serendipity not selling out doesn't matter HoloEN gets merged <---- you're here >getting merged doesn't matter >less EN concerts doesn't matter
>>114696896Why wouldn't she expect people to take it negatively? Who wouldn't come to that obvious conclusion?
>>114696896I think it's safe to say fubuki is no longer trustworthy she's too compromised
The merges will continue until morale improves.
So what caused the phase melty
>>114697214You forgot "talent not streaming doesn't matter"
>>114697214Nothing matters because EN has 0 relevancy
>>114697225male collabs and bf yabsaka the usual
>>114697225I think Scott mindbroke them or something
>>114697212>Why does EN and ID even give a shit about "identity"I think only Kiara and maybe Mori care, the rest don't seem to give a damn.
So like what is the point of mekpark I thought all new future debuts would come from them but they just announced a new gen separate from them so whats up?
if ID actually cared about their identity they would have exclusively talked in Indo instead of English
>>114697214Your mistake was thinking I care about any of that. I like my Oshi and that's it. EN concerts being cancelled would be a blessing because she wouldn't be forced to pretend to be an idol by wasting half the year preparing for a shitty fucking EN concert when we already lose months of streams to fes and expo and other bullshit. EN was crippled by having near year round practices and rehearsals. JP didn't have to put up with that shit which is why they have way more streamers and popular members.
>>114697208It's okay to laugh through the tears anon. It's all part of the coping process.
>>114697212Think of it this way: if Hololive were merged into Nijisanji and all Hololive vtubers because Nijisanji organs, that would still be something of a loss, even if nothing changed otherwise, right? Of course, you'll want to say that's totally different, but it really isn't, identity does matter, you just don't place any particular importance on the HoloEN or HoloID identity, while you do value the Hololive identity.
>>114697256yeah thats the problem the rest never cared they never tried to expand the brand they just coasted on holo's name while playing vidya
>>114696991Japan does not have legal fiduciary duties to shareholders like America doesThey could spend the entire q&a session literally flipping them all the bird and farting in their faces and the most they could do is dump their shares at a lossStock price only matters to the trader, not the companyNiji and riku care because it's his golden parachute
>>114697225>Hololive literally imploding>but what about phaselike fucking clockwork
>>114697256I have not seen any EN member speak positively about it, its all been cautiously optimistic. All of ID has been worse with their doomposting.
>>114697225Phase peaked at like 800 yesterday and the own Phasewhores told them not to be such dramafag little cockroaches
>>114697257mekpark is a 2 year trial of talents where the company can profit off of them while paying them next to nothing. Didn't you read the announcement blog post?
>>114697277cuck
Holos that desperately clings to "identity" like Kiara and Ollie knows that their value ends on their affiliation to such identity.Mori, Kaela, Kobo, Biboo, Bae, and IRyS all knows well that they bring actual value to the table regardless of what identity they are a part of.The response to this announcement just simply exposes which members are having impostor syndrome AND are desperately clinging on to it.Raora may have some form of impostor syndrome but by not reacting negatively to the news she has proven herself that she is willing to challenge herself to actually earn her place unlike the two holos I previously mentioned.
>>114697277You realise you just admitted to it
>>114697257it's a training camp for new managers
>>114697257Mekpark is obviously its own separate thing, they weren't even mentioned anywhere in the announcement
>>114697293>cautiously optimisticThat's still positivity you stupid nigger
>>114697257It's a training camp for inexperienced talents and inexperienced producers.
>>114697293>All of ID has been worse with their doomposting.Maybe it's because even after the merger their salary is still lower than everyone else's. I hope that's not the case.
>giga phase yab>but what about hololivelike clockwork
>>114697298800 is still more than holoEN on the account that it doesn't exist anymore
>>114697293>cautiously optimisticno it's "this sounds like shit but I hope it will be good somehow" which is not optimism at all
>>114697060Yes, first thoughts; COMFY and COZY
>>114697332So you are a phasecuck seething at holos
>>114697271HoloEN/ID has no value in their "identity", their entire value is on the Holo brand itself not on their branch status lmao what even is this cope
What did Gigi say in her stream?
before if you wanted to join holoEN you had to audition for HoloEnNow you jsut audition for hololive so now you're fighting Jap retired idols pekora fubuki nepos, you're fighting SEA, its harder for good talent to get noticed in auditions now
>>114697314If you have to decide to remain positive or look on the bright side of things, you're just coping about something negative.
>>114697346The HoloEN identity had a huge amount of value and it's gone overnight
>>114697293Fwmc and Nerissa were ecstatic lmao.That's already more EN holos happy with the news than holos that weren't happy or neutral about it.
>>114697300Look at your entire branch holocuck>>114697305There's nothing to admit, you cucks always deflect to Phase or Niji whenever there's holo drama
Reminder DON'T RESPOND to them they have admitted its a raidJust report for spam
Do the retarded suits really think someone is going to see a hololive clip, somehow go to the hololive website and then scroll through and check out all of the talents? If people even go as far as looking into hololive they'll see the website is in Japanese and odds are the first talent they click will only speak Japanese and then they'll fuck off and be soured on hololive forever. Having a distinct hololive EN was critical for brand identity why the fuck would you throw that away? Do whatever restructuring you want behind the scenes but done make public changes for no fucking reason.
>>114697346It's be like removing states from America and just having it be one big blobIf you can't see why that's bad, you're either darker than black or a commie
with holoEN dead mousey is the #1 vtuber in EN btw
>>114697374ironic, you are here in the numbers thread every day seething Hololive.
>>114697314uh no its not you retard>>114697329Good, they shouldn't be draining resources when they barely bring in anything>>114697334That is quite literally being optimistic you retard
>>114697348Basically the same as CC. >personally neutral, can't help if viewers are upset but don't be a schizo about it
>>114697358>HoloEN>Having any amount of valuenice joke
>>114697358It has value to shitters desperate for something to rally againstCant compete against hololive? Well at least look how this compares against a sidebranchThat is gone now and there is no pretending there is competition
>>114697384i just tried this you have to scroll down on the talent list to even find a EN kek, if you didn't know the gen names you'd be fucked
>>114697407Hoping an apparently bad situation will turn out well is not optimism. It's coping
>>114697421It has value to the English-speaking fans of HololiveOr are you going to pretend they don't exist
>Without Ceci the second biggest EN stream would be Kirsche at...1.6k I know you niggas hate this thread but LARPing is not worth it with these shit numbers
confirmation of milftomo soon
>>114697367Fuwamoco have always wanted to be JP, so of course they're gonna be happy about it but their EN fans aren't. idc about Nerissa she's a shitter
>>114697384What they're going to do is they'll add a language tag for each talent that you can filter.If you're viewing the website from EN then you'd get EN members + ID + JP who can speak EN
>>114697348She said she forgot it was even happening and (you) are retarded
>>114697441ironmouse has 7.8k
Ignore and report
>>114697390Uh not really, because JP never separated itself by a "state" they were always the US. No amount of retarded analogies makes the doomposting seem better
>>114697455On an event?!
>>114697446Damn, you just recreated branches without the good parts
>>114697446That's retarded for one after getting rid of those same labels and secondly why would that not be ready at launch? It's a half day at most of prep.
>>114697367>That's already more EN holos happy with the newsThat's not true, there are only four or five who are happy.
>>114697461Merging all the branches would be like if France and Germany and The Netherlands all decided to become one country despite not speaking the same language
>>114697112nta, you talk about value a lot. I'm literally watching this now, and for example, Market value is what a company is worth on paper today, but paper wealth only becomes real money when you sell. CASH is everything, basically. Don't know if it applies here, but it's interesting. https://youtu.be/fd0ZCw1ZVNE?si=NFSde4gbISGMMfDp
>>114697425You're just stretching out the meaning, optimism can also mean coping
>>114697473reinventing the wheel is a japanese specialty
WHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIES
>>114697440English speaking fans of hololive are fans of hololive or are you too retarded to have realized that?
>>114697477Again, this analogy makes 0 sense. Holo ID/EN were created by the main branch, they weren't already established entities. They also have 0 value in being separated
>>114697485>optimism can also mean copingNo it can't. Optimism is when you think things will turn out well. Coping is when you wish it will turn out well so you pretend it will even if you believe it won't
>>114697514uh...no? im a fan of the EN parts of it
all of ya'll are mad because now that the merge is happening, the en girls are gonna be exposed as frauds and coasting through while the jp are the ones keeping the company afloat.
>>114697514>English speaking fans of hololive are fans of hololiveNot really, they're mostly fans of HoloEN, they mostly aren't interested in JP
>USA: HoloJP>Canada: HoloEN>Mexico: HoloIDThe merger is basically if Trump suddenly decide he's the emperor of North America and merge all three nations to become a new larger USA.
If you don't respond moderation can't pretend it's on topic
>>114697516and all Europeans probably came from the same place too doesn't change the fact that they're different countries with different cultures that speak different languages
>>114695823They already were though? And hololive has matured enough that even shitter ENs who still have dreams can eventually make it to something.
>>114697533>the en girls are gonna be exposed as frauds and coasting through
>>114697520>still stretching out the meaning
>>114697533that's literally just kiara though
here it is, the final cope >HoloEn didn't matter anyway
>>114697060no, I actually want my Coco-era rhombuses and twitchy eyes back.
>>114697552Is this really the state of HoloEN cope right now, having to compare the merging to countries being merged lmao. Give me a break, get the fuck over it and stop crying like that bitch Kiara
>>114697560The truth NVKE that no one in /#/ wants to hear.
In the end, hololive English is the negligible.
>>114697565pretending that coping is optimism is stretching the meaning of optimism
>>114697271It is totally different you retard fuck, the value of EN and ID identity are tied to the main branch, Hololive and Nijisanji are two completely different company
>>114697474they need to wait 15 business days for all 60 talents to send a signed fax which languages they want to be tagged with
>>114697587>no argument
>>114697533Actually it bothers me more that now that the brand is dead there won't be any new EN units.
>>114697547>Thinks this board gets real moderationlmao
>>114697598And trying to say that they aren't being optimistic is retarded
New mwocha cosplay is up btw
>>114697611The last good EN unit was CHADcast formed in 2021 almost 5 years ago.
>>114697617they aren't. they're like "I don't know what this means but I hope it will be good" which is not optimism. The only EN I've seen optimistic about this is FuwaMoco
>>114697608And your argument is using something that has 0 correlation to try reinforcing the doomposting retard. You fucking lost, serendipity flopped and this is what your whore branch gets
>>114697588>>114697547>>114697614I don't even know which posts are bothering you.
I thought you guys hated concert prep for taking time away from streams? Now that the EN concerts are dead, the girls can skip streams for entirely different reasons.
>>114697151>very nijiesquejust like holo after the merger
>>114697614Real posters were banned last thread for Jesus posting.Actually fucking report them retard
>>114697638>my brain is too small to understand simple analogies
>>114697636>I hope it will be goodthat is literally being optimistic, you're just saying its coping because you already have your mind made up by losers like Kiara and the ID branch that its a bad thing
the arc of history is long but eventually /#/s always loses
>>114697529you are why there never should have been an EN branch
Why are Ruffians so insistent on portraying everyone else in EN as upset? Do Ruffians not read the girls' tweets or watch streams?
>>114697658>that is literally being optimisticno its not"I think it will be good" = optimism"I hope it will be good" = nothing
>>114697160this.
When Gura returns to Hololive, Cover will revive Hololive EN.
In the end Gunrun was right that running an EN vtuber corpo was expensive
>EN fags actually thinking this is going to change anything, when the EN girls barely fucking streamed or did anything as a separate entity
It's funny people view the current situation as EN / ID losing something, but actually EN5 and ID4 are only going to be possible because of the merge. Now Cover can shield them from Shareholders during years that they underperform, where previously they could demand a downsizing. Yagoo was so charitable to shitters like the Holo Stars but now for some reason people honestly believe hes going to mistreat EN.
>>114697657You're using a retarded analogy that has literally 0 connection or relation to this. We're fucking talking about anime girl streamers
>>114697668Why should i care about JP? i cant speak or understand or read the language, they mean nothing to me, thats why i liked hololive EN, specifically gura and kiara
>>114697697Report them
Serious question, why aren't my posts getting replies? am I shadow banned?
>>114697693The only people who want EN5 are beggars, sisters, and liggers. Nobody's asking for another gen, and Cover isn't looking for them either. The new focus is on making the girls that are already in Hololive happy rather than number go up for shareholders.
>>114697671>Optimism is a mental attitude of expecting good outcomes and a hopeful view of the future.Checkmate retard
>>114697695>We're fucking talking about anime girl streamersYes, an analogy is where you take one thing and compare it to something elseAnime girl streaming companies aren't countries, but we can make a comparsionI suppose that's too difficult for you to understand though
It's crazy how much of a W this presentation could have been if they didn't fucking axe EN+ID, it completely overshadowed a fucking anime AND new gen
>>114697658It's really not that hard to tell the difference between optimism in the sense of "I hope things turn out for the best" and optimism in the sense of "This is a good change that I approve of". By the definition you're using, there's only either optimism or dooming, with optimism including all potential emotional ranges above dooming. With the exception of the dogs, every member so far has had a mixed response, with levels of optimism mixed with levels of concern.
FUWAMOCO should do a Japanese children's episodic show on the holo jp channel. It wouldn't have flown in EN but without the burdens of that they are free. There are lots of holo listeners that want content for their children to watch so they can learn to love hololive too in a safe controlled environment until they are old enough to enjoy the full library of programming.
>>114697725>expecting good outcomesYes, expectingIf you expect a good outcome you're optimisingIf you HOPE for one you're coping
>>114697682That's what makes me laugh the most, when they were actually a group none of the girls gave a damn and they think that now they'll stick together more than before when there's nothing left to connect them.
At the end of the day Donie is doing victory laps around you guys while you scramble to come up with an explanation as to how this is a good thing
>>114697722I never understood people who want new gens, like is your oshi not enough for you?
>>114697740ESLs ITT (im just saying a fact not even racism) dont understand that in english saying you ''hope something works out'' is cope,
>>114697571all her fault btw.
>>114697705if you want to larp we could pretend to be gaiogagars
>>114697759trvke
>>114697729And I suppose you're still just a mentally retarded monkey who has to bring up unrelated shit to support his doomposting because his whore oshi is crying like a bitch
>>114697760People who want new gens don't watch Hololive. They always have ulterior motives>new girls means potentially new homo collabers>new girls means accelerating EN to death like NijiEN >new girls means my shitty 2view might get inThey don't care about Hololive at all
>>114697784You are literally too stupid to have this conversation
>>114697759>lapslike around a volcano?
>>114697753Kiara will try to keep the EN legacy alive but i fear only mori will humor her
>>114697744>completely ignoring that hoping for a better outcome still falls into being optimisticYou can't just change definitions to suit your argument, you fucking lost go back to twitter and bitch about it with kfp
>>114697808>>completely ignoring that hoping for a better outcome still falls into being optimisticIt doesn'tYou literally posted an incorrect AI summary you ESL moron
>>114697763You repeat yourself if you're wrong and if you are correct you move on.Spamming is against rules and moderation is harassing hololive for under the desk financing again
>>114697760She's not my girlfriend dude, I just want to be entertained.
>>114697786>new gens are bad actually >pre merger everyone wanted EN5
>>114697753Seriously, EN unity was and always has been a joke. Their only yearly event enreco is a management mandated slop to get them all together once a year, and even then they can't manage that because several members only show up for a day or 2 lmao
>>114697477>become one country despite not speaking the same languageSo like Belgium or Switzerland?
>>114697794And you're a delusional cuck who is bending over backwards to try finding shit to support your doomposting
>>114697823Who wanted EN5? Management proved they could not support girls and work on debuts. Nice self report
>>114697852I'm not the one doomposting, I don't even care, the Hololive members are certainly doomposting though
>>114697819>moderation is harrassing hololive by not banning dissenting opinions
>>114696703clearly decision for merger was made before serendipity even happened
>>114697830Kiara's anti-Japan, pro-EU agenda is why EN unity never existed from day 1. She's too blinded by her hate for non-Europeans to realize she was her own worst enemy
Stop responding to them and report for spam you fucking retard French cunt
>>114697817It is quite literally the definition of it, stop coping you blubbering retard
Kiara status?
>>114697887It's notIf English isn't your first language, don't try to act like an authority on how it's spoken
>>114697821Having an oshi doesn't mean she's your gf what even is this stance
>>114697738Do you know that holopro+DevIS getting axed too?
>>114697865That makes you even more pathetic if you're doing this just being a cuck for the girls doomposting
Yes you are spamming.You've said the same thing hundreds of times this thread and it's been every thread.Report and ignore
>>114697760it's a good chance their oshi graduated
KEKYPOW busted niji prostitutes
>>114697884Report for what? Jannies want this to make it seem like the board is not dead.
>>114697881I never understood why she never moved to Japan, "oh muh cats" just fucking bring them. She's the one who has the most idol experience in EN, she should've been the first to move to Japan
Stop pretending it's a discussion and report for spam
>>114697953shes been to japan it fucking sucks for foreigners to live there
>>114697933>just being a cuck for the girls doompostingwhat the fuck does that even mean?I'm just saying it's a dumb idea, I don't actually care because I don't watch HololiveYou getting really mad about it, it sounds like you're the cuck if anything, sorry you're stuck defending the stupid decisions of somebody else
>>114697905https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism
>>114697953>why didn't the girl who moved away from move to Japan?wow
I feel demoralized, I think I'll go out and touch grass.
>>114697969Didn't stop Mori, Ina, Bae, Fuwamoco, Nerissa, Raora, Biboo
He's not going anywhere he will spam for daysReport them
>>114697719>he thinks the literal jeet nigger mods will moderateKEKYBREKKYDOOOOOOO
>>114698000Who?
>>114697970How do you know its a stupid decision, its been literally 1 day. I'll trust actual holomems like Fubuki who have been there since nearly day 1, compared to overreacting nobodies in the side branches or retarded fans who think this is the end of the company
>>114698000>>114697964>>114697884lil bro thinks he's on Holotower
>>114697969Why do so many problems only occur for Kiara? Why do they never occur for anyone other than her in EN? Can we find a common denominator?
Ignore and report spammers
>>114697972Why even join Hololive then, did she seriously think her work visa was gonna be enough
>>114698015>nobodies from the side branch this is exactly why fans of those side branches are freaking out because of people with this attitude
>>114698000literally what the filter is forI have like 99% of posts in this thread auto-filtered
>>114698015>How do you know its a stupid decisionHoloEN is (was) a very strong brand, strong identity with many people with a very high opinion of it. Gone overnight. There's little crossover between HoloJP fans and HoloEN fans because of the langauge barrier. This just makes things far more confusing for everyone. And for what? What do they gain from this? Nothing as far as I can tell> I'll trust actual holomems like Fubuki She's literally a company shareholder
>>114697953Kiara lived in Japan in the past and had tons of bad experiences, she doesn't actually like the country all that much anymore.You can tell whenever she's there for Cover stuff how she talks about the trips she accompanies the other girls on and stuff, she never really sounds like she enjoys being in Japan vs any of the other countries she regularly travels to, the only thing she enjoys there is hanging out with the other girls.
>>114698040Stop lying and Do your job tranny janny
yagoo is like dana white
>>114698036Well good, the company doesn't need shitters.>>114698043HoloEN brought literally nothing to the table. Gura was the only relevant one, and her being gone replaced by the 2 newer gens didn't do shit
>>114697455>bustedmouse>40 year old beaner and has a kidKEKEKEKAROOOOOOOO
>>114696896"let them eat cake" ahh statement
>>114698059Sounds like a larper then
>>114698077>HoloEN brought literally nothing to the tableThis entire board and thread are HoloEN fans. HoloEN has a huge following
>>114698094well she was molested there a few times plus it's not an uncommon sentiment for even weebs who actually try living there
>>114698077Fair. If you hate EN and everyone in it, this is a good decision. Otherwise, not so much.
>>114697670You mean kfpiss trannies
>>114697953You actually don't know what happened to her in Japan? There's videos of it out there if you actually look it up. Actual fucking scary shit and traumatising for a girl.
If I don't see any bans for spam in this thread I'm done with this siteTHD anon gets banned all the time.
>>114698098Hooo boy time to shut down the board then
>>114698098>Using /vt/ relevancy as an argumentNone of them get 10k+ anymore, at best they might get 7-8k ccv with an average of 3-4k. Their stream frequency is also pathetic, with Biboo hard carrying the entire branch. They also failed to sellout their 1 yearly event, so clearly not a "huge" enough following.
>>114698123What spam?
this merger has hit some people so hard they're reverting to factory settings with the /jp/ ''ensharts dont matter'' copeposts
>>114698000Hilarious of you to think there are enough holofans left to report all the trolls or that the janny is on your sideYou lost a long time ago
>>114698123Stop spamming
>>114698123You don't even know what spam is or what the rules are, that much is clear. You need to go back.
Biboo couldn't even reach the million subs before Hololive EN died.
>>114698123THD stands for TOTAL HOMO DEATH!KEKEKEK
Report and ignore the spam
>>114698155holy shit you're right lmfao
>>114698138kek
>>114698115Only Kiara and the IDs doomposted about it, the rest of EN was optimistic. Plus yeah I mostly watch JP, might catch an EN stream if there's nothing else, but Hololive has always been JP for me because that's what got me into it when it was only them. Like i'm someone who never watches EN dub of anything foreign, so the concept of an anime girl EN branch was never appealing to me
>>114698133The biggest English-speaking female streamers (not just vtubers) were HoloEN vtubersAnyone trying to claim HoloEN was insignificant is just a moronIt's declined since its peak, but Cover just keeps making bad decisions to make them less popular
>>114698123Well just go away. To be honest you're being more annoying than any other poster here.
>>114698184>the rest of EN was optimisticthey werent
>>114698122boo hoo, she shouldn't have applied to work for a Japanese company then where its required to be in Japan at least several times of year for work
Look how desperate they are for attention. Report for spam
>>114698185plus they're back to playing dumb about why the branch is stagnant after a bunch of huge graduations and acting like it's the fans fault or something
>>114698204Who is spamming?
>>114698138But ensharts don't actually matter
>>114698197Kiara would agree with you, she shouldn't have done that.
>>114698133I mean, thats a massive following, and nobody can even come close to selling the amount of tickets they do for concerts. I dont really care though for irl shit, always watched online due to work.
>ITT towa trannies REEEEEEing because they can't handle life outside their padded safe space
>>114698185The EN sphere is insignificant, its not just Hololive. JP reigns supreme for vtubers across the entire industry
>>114697953There's lots of nice things about Japan but it's not like it's literal heaven on earth. Tokyo is crowded as SHIT I would never want to live thereLike maybe Kiara just doesnt want to live in a big city anymore. You cant really blame her for preferring pic rel over constantly being own the move or being crammed into the Tokyo subway like a literal bug person
>>114698234You have numberfag mental illness where you think if you're not #1 you're irrelevantThat's not how reality works
>>114698229a lot of them are tasting for the very first time the consequences of disagreeing with Kiara on a site run by /hlgg/
>>114698193Really gonna continue this cope loop again?
>>114698256Let the Ruffian have this and ignore him. I don't know why he so desperately wants only FWMC to be optimistic, but his life seems to depend upon it
>>114698206It really is funny how nobody brings up the wave of graduations for why the branch is the way it is, well plus how most of them barely stream as well. They have nobody to blame but themselves
>>1146982294chan is a safe space for mod cliques
Report these spammer freak
>>114697993They have friends and hang out with each others frequently, though
>>114698269>Ruffian??? I hate FuwaMoco
>>114698229Someone got banned the other day on tower for saying vtubing is a Japanese focused hobby, its insane over there
>>114698234>JPyou mean holoJP
>>114698271>brings up the wave of graduations for why the branch is the way it isIt's pure cope. It happened 2 years ago so they've had time to build up their mental defenses and pretend it doesn't matter, but it killed the branch, Cover could have tried to hire new decent vtubers and get things going again but they did not
someone make a list of the final sub count for each EN member since the branch is dead
>>114698288uhh sister it's just hololive now ty
Why does Fubuki come off like such a fed? I'm genuinely starting to believe she owns a large amount of shares.
Apparently there's going to be another Hololive Next in November and Fubuki will be appearing as guest this time.
>>114698217Like I said EN still doesn't matter, even the biggest runts of JP are at least competing with the biggest Holo EN members. Meanwhile the biggest Holo EN members don't even get 1/3 of the amount of viewers that the biggest JPs get
Our fight was supposed to be legendary. A victory given because your opponent shot himself isn't even a victory. It's just hollow.
never forget enna and elira are the busted whore cumdumps of fatty vox KEEEEEEEEEEKEEEEEEEEEEK
>>114698296i mean justice is objective a mid gen, the CCGG shit sells merch i guess but raora and ERB are not high quality hires, they had to hit it out of the park after the graduation wave and failed to do so
>>114698307>I'm genuinely starting to believe she owns a large amount of shares.She does, this is public knowledge not a rumor
>>114698234EN is a massive market with a lot of money in the entertainment industry to just give up on. But yes, I don't see anyone saying that hololive can't survive just with the JP audience, I'm sure they can.
>>114698296That requires EN scene to be able to provide "decent vtubers" to begin with
>>114698312Its almost like they said it would be monthly for a year
>>114698324>the CCGG shit sells merchThat's a bit of an exaggeration? They are solidly tier 3 in EN with FWMC
>>114698313Choco and Matsuri and Roboco are getting the same numbers as Biboo, GG, CC?
>>114698251Except that's literally how it works, when you think of a sports team you think of their star athletes not their 2nd string guys or most of the rest of the roster
>>114698307And she was shockingly aggressive, I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.
>>114698334There's plenty of decent vtubers, Cover doesn't hire them and instead hires shitters like ERB, Nerissa, Shiori and Raora
>>114698313Whats JP?
>>114698197Thats not even the fucking thing that is keeping her away from Japan you retard. She has a stalker in Japan who tried to rape her btw and there's a video of her recording the whole thing with her begging the guy to go away while the guy keeps on knocking like a maniac and you have Kiara terrified sobbing while begging him to go away.
holoEN post graduation wave is like the patriots post brady
>>114698344Nobody cares what you 80 IQ retards think aboutIf #1 brings in 10 million dollars and #2 brings in 5 million dollars #2 still fucking matters
>>114698296The wave of graduations did damage to the branch, because nobody was able to makeup for the losses. At least JP still had popular talents after all their loses, losing Gura and the rest was devastating for a branch who barely had any unity and no real face besides Gura
>>114698301doesn't change what I said, it's Hololive.
>>114698366I doubt they bring in 5 million dollars.
>>114698384that was an example really is like talking to fucking 5 year olds in here, can you even dress yourself in the morning?
>>114698332Sure EN has a lot of potential, but they have had what 5 years to tap into that and it clearly has not brought worth. Doesn't help that only like 5 members stream frequently
>>114698402>hey have had what 5 years to tap into that and it clearly has not brought worththey didn't even trylong stretches with no new vtubersthe ones they hire fucking suck
>>114698361boo hoo kfpcuck, I hope she gets raped
>>114698396an example only a retard like you can make.
>>114696896selfish cat
>>114698366Except EN absolutely does not bring in anywhere near half the amount that JP does
>>114698422Are you actually intellectually disabled? You can't carry on a conversation
can the mods just ip ban the guy?
>>114698332I feel like people are misinterpreting what cover wants to do nowI dont think Cover is giving up on NA or the western market, what I think they want to do is deprioritize EN specificallyBasically they want to go back to 2019 Korone Eekum Bokum days where the western fanbase was all into the most popular overall talents. Because that's easier than trying to make Shiori or Raora sell out venues. Instead of JP being it's own separate thing now all of hololive is together, meaning they can do things like do a merch collabs like Omocat one but with JP talents, or like Mori suggested a World Tour style concert with JPs who are more likely to sell such as Towa. From a Shareholders perspective it makes sense when they see artists like Ado going on tour in America that there's no real need for EN specifically to be the end all be all of global expansion.
>>114698307the biggest shareholders are not a secret for public companies you know
>>114698411Doesn't help that most of the EN members they hired are just grifters, at least with JP a lot of the old guard members actually had relevancy in the online sphere together so that allowed for an easy transition into a group thing for them.
>>114698438I believe you're referring to yourself and you should refer to yourself as mentally retarded. KEEEK
Lol okay
>>114698433I doubt the entirety of EN brings in the revenue of even the top 2 JPs. Likely not enough to justify having their own separate management structure and ecosystem.
>>114698438Maybe if you stopped bringing up retarded comparisons, then you'd understand
/#/s so mindbroken by kiara they start posting blacked porn jesus christ
>>114698457How are you not embarrassed to be this stupid
only one guy having a melty btw.
So in the end, Gura never joined hololive
>>114698471Normal people can understand examples and analogies. I assumed your weren't intellectually disabled, maybe that was my fault
Still an entire raid spamming on cool down
>cuckposting grim
>>114698481why would I? I'm not as retarded as you.
>>114698466Pretty much, and it makes sense with how many EN members struggle to sell out their merch and shit. Guess that's what they get for harboring anti-idol sentiment to own le heckin unicorns and parasocials, they brought this shit upon themselves by harboring a tourist audience. Never let Kronii forget the "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" retard moment she had
>>114698494where is the spam?
I think people are on Kiara's side on this because a lot of Hololive EN fans feel the same way she does right now.
Fubuki words aged like milk huh....
>>114698508You cannot grasp the topic of conversation. You can't understand simple examples and analogies. You can't formulate arguments. You are literally stupider than a 10 year old
Ignore and report spamming
>>114698491Normal people don't compare a vtuber company merging to entire countries merging
Good to know that despite getting absorbed into the main brand EN members still keep their long-time honored tradition of not fucking streaming at all (nor have any frame) right now
Lol, wonder how many deleted.
>>114698542Normal people can make basic analogies and understand them
>>114698528Fuck this whore… seriously
>>114698527Its literally only kfp, most holo EN fans are neutral or positive
>>114698366We already know that they don't matter given that the branch was shut down. If they mattered they'd still have their own branch.
>>114698529You cannot grasp the fact that you're retarded. Is that how bad it is? I feel bad for talking to you now.
>>114698571Who knows what Cover is thinking but objectively they were a valuable brand
>>114698565Normal people don't think that a company merging with itself is something to doompost this much about
>>114698402EN made a big splash before and you acknowledge the market had potential so I don't see what we're disagreeing over. Yes Cover just isn't interested in trying anything else and wants to pack it up so they can take the path of least resistance that is less complicated for them. That doesn't mean Cover has exhausted all of their possibilities or that they aren't ultimately leaving money on the table, they're just playing it safe.
>>114698562Dude HoloEN just died, they are probably feeling depressed or something.
>>114698528Friend?More like Enemy
are we really arguing if holoEN was profitable or not
>>114698586If you work for the company and it's your livelyhood you would doompost about it because it's important to you
>>114696896WAIT WHAT HAPPENED D:
>>114698563None of the spamming has been deleted it's like they don't know what spamming is
>>114698581How so, Cover could cut the entire EN branch and JP would be able to make up for it
>>114698384Didn’t the report show that about 30% of their rev are from overseas which would be around 20 million
>>114698607can you point out the spam?
>>114698612>How soThey had a large amount of recognition and goodwill and their streamers were popular and made a lot of money
>>114698607I meant if the janny actually does his job.
>>114698604Then maybe the EN girls shouldn't have been such lazy whores if it was "so important to them." Actually streaming would be nice, not shitting on their fans would be appreciated.
>shitting on FWMC>shitting on FubukiGlobalfags really will turn on anyone and everyone if it means protecting Kiara's fragile world view
>>114698607Who is spamming?
>>114698442This is how you get a NijiID situation with turbo antis and empty concerts.
>>114698628>alot of money>recognitionnice joke
Pre merger:>HoloEN is doing great >not streaming doesn't matter >EN5 soonafter the merger:>HoloEN didn't matter>it can be cut and not matter>EN fans are bad
>>114698528Well, those words still age very well if you compare them to the other big JP corpo (AnyColor) or big idol groups
Why are kfp being such fucking faggots, can Kiara just graduate already so she can move her cucks out
>>114698597jpfags keep confusing "being less profitable than JP" with "not being profitable" all the fucking time and it pisses me off. Streaming shit for the company have cost near 0, of course all the people selling their merch are profitable.
>>114698632FWMC deserve it for that absolute snake behavior they did right after the merger
They're still spamming tranny janny
>>114698677>>114698654why is this guy so mindbroken
>>114698653Has this thread always said this shit or is it just reactive cope and rationalization?
>>114698654sure, i reported you for spamming because thats the only spam i can see right now
>>114698618No not exactly. Overseas was 25% of revenue at MINIMUM. The report said>Revenue for overseas sales that can't be estimated is assumed to be domesticThat means 25% is the absolute lowest it can be, and the real number is likely significantly higher.
>>114698684This thread was 100% HoloEN supremacists until today where now HoloEN doesn't matter at all and was an insignificant sidebranch
So are we already at the part where all of the advent and justice babies turn on kfp and tutn them into the next saplings?
>>114698597The funniest thing is that when homobeggars were saying "ID is next" everyone here was arguing to death that they make a profit.
Hard not to see it janny do your job
This board was holoEN central before the merge, now everyone is pointing out how EN never mattered. Did EN fags finally wake up, or did they just become tower refugees because they knew they'd get shit on after all the cope here they did
Do you see it? There's something there that shouldn't be listed.
>>114698737>or did they just become tower refugeesIt's the opposite.>If Kiara says it's bad, the other dozen EN members are all liarsThat's a take only globalfags could have
>>114698696>>114698701It's almost like the thread just adopts whatever stance makes Cover look good.
>>114698739Yeah, Holoearth
It's obvious spam Do your job tranny janny
>>114698696im sorry did you think the seven asterisks you were using to claim whatever was competing against hololive actually mattered?
>>114698739nice, homos are no longer part of holoPro
>>114698799what?
kek
>>114698739fixed
warningmerge ahead
Just a reminder, 90% of the time when middle management gets blamed for a problem, it's actually because upper management had unreasonable demands and shit rolls downhill.
so if my oshi doesn't live in japan, how does this merge benefit her?
>>114698696HoloEN has 3x the average of NijiJP, 10x the average of NijiEN and about 8x the average of Phase on a normal month.It will continue being that way even if remove monikers, names, or whatever.
Report the spammers and don't respond
>>114698845You're one step too high. Line managers get blamed for middle management. Upper management is rarely the problem, it's the dozen mouths that the mandates and results get fed through that cause problems
>>114698819mindbroken lmao
>>114698866your oshi already said they knew about it before hand and she doesn’t care also called dramafags niggers
>>114698866>my oshi doesn't live in japanYet
soooooooooo where is Kiara
>>114698902forced hiatus she already said she was in trouble after her membership meltdown
>>114698866>half of the girls have a better time in EN>the other half are equal if not better in many cases>Gigi herself is fine with it>still complainingGrems are so selfish
>>114698866She has more chances to leech off JP sponsorships / collabs
100% of the last 7 posts are spam
holo still failing to get into twitch with duel streaming shows they are retarded and dont know the EN market, most sponsors and the best rev splits are on twitch
>>114698361that's false she had a stalker who touched her (she confirmed it wasn't in the butt though) and she recorded herself in a noisy room she really hated because it was creepy, there were no stalkers involved at all in this "incident" but some retard added his deranged fantasies to it.
>>114698946There is nothing to gain on twitch, the viewers are fucking subhumans who consider fansly whores the apex form of vtubing. They will never watch hololive
>>114698946If they have to get onto Twitch to "know the EN market", then they don't need to. I'm not going to mingle with Twitch trash
>>114698946>TwitchIsn’t it bedtime for Europe?
Why does Mint have so many cosplayers?
Why would I want my EN branch to be merged with this? How does this benefit me or my oshi?
>>114698618>>114698688Overseas doesn't mean EN, Cover has never reported sales by branch and given how most Holofans from Asia seem to watch the main branch. I wouldn't be surprised if EN+ID is like maybe 15-20%~ of revenue.
>>114698982> she had a stalker who touched herI feel like that’s the important part
>>114699015the brown one is way hotter
>>114698243She basically already said this is the reason why, she just wants to live at home and not in some foreign country, it's LITERALLY that simple. She is too old to do this "le grind le grind le hustle" bullshit life, her dream is to have a lakeside house.
>>114699016Whos your oshi?
>>114698946>the best rev splitsYes anon they are the ones out of touch not you
>>114698982>In the video she actually begs the guy to leave while crying.Why do you lie? I don't want to post it here as I might get banned, but the video is out there and you can actually see her begging the guy to go away while she's crying.
>>114699015nobody watches her
>>114699064Do I detect seethe?
>>114699079>shilling indiewhores in a holoGOD threadlol
>>114699062That's how I remember it too, you could hear someone at her door, and then there was the other incident which was also recorded lol
>>114699015OG cam whore attracts other cam whores
>You can't be a JP fan if you are not JapaneseWhich retard claims this?There are Gundam X and ZZ fans, despite those series being only available in Japanese with subtitles.In fact, /a/ once had a no-dubfag policyHow low can election tourists go?
>>114698913she also said she can't stream for the next few days because her depression got too bad and she fights panic attacks to just think about the situation, she had trouble breathing. Unclear if she will stream for her anniversary.
>>114698814Even the Japanese know that cover gave up on the west kek
The holo sub has completely flipped on Cover and are full on anti posting, even attacking Fubuki.
I literally only watch JP, so this shit doesn't matter to me lol. If the EN/ID branches relied that much on their "brand" separation being EN/ID separate from the main JP branch, then they never had any value in the first place. At least the EN branch is somewhat relevant, I have not seen 1 defense for ID this entire thread which is hilarious because there is no way to try to cope about them
>>114699112You're talking to a board of people who can't even identify Seiyuu and go "Who?" Over people like fucking Yuuki Aoi or Yuki Kaji
>>114699140>reddit Bunch of onions subhumans
>>114699150we don't watch 2views here go away.
I'm not at risk of going so crazy over a woman.For whatever reason I'm not attracted to women that don't show interest in me although I'm not as successful as such a thing would imply
>>114699062>>114699101I know banned pagpag posted it on his patreon but this was an anti edit, one time not-Kiara got angry and actually addressed this on her twitter.
>>114699112the most popular animes only got that way by having a good EN dubyou NEED EN to be great hololive should be pandering to us not JP
>>114699140Its not just there, tower/yt/twitter are generally leaning towards doomposting about it and even saying that Fubuki is a shill. Ironic because Fubuki was often their go to defense from her older statement about "as long as i'm here then Hololive is still a good place." Which really thinking about that statement its kind of fucked up, implying that only her opinion matters
I want to watch more jp streams but my nihongo is not at that level yet so I can't keep up
>>114699155they were bigger Cover bootlickers than towa
>>114699112Livestreams aren't subbed. Maybe in a few years AI autotranslate will get there but it's not really usable right now, so all you have is clips. And sure if you're a real otaku you will devote years of your life to learning a foreign language that's incredibly difficult for English speakers to learn, but that's not a really good business strategy for a mass market company like Cover to rely on.
>>114699173>animes>dub
>>114699140Wtf did they expect from not softening the merger by showing SOMETHING with everyone unified together?Instead they gave us a JP only anime that very obviously began production when EN and ID were two gens in each
>>114699156see I can't even tell if this post is ironic or not because there's so many normies in the fanbase that started to watch anything weeb-like during covid lol>>114699150this anon is right
>>114699079Sexy
>>114699173Dragon Ball Z changed the world with the Ocean Dub...
>>114699140That bootlicker deserves it.
>>114699185Anon, Hololive got famous because of internet memes, that had nothing to do with "being English". Hell, Ai had no problem with this.
>>114699140Yeah it's basically a disaster at this point and they're doing absolutely nothing to address it.
in the west we dont care how you word things all that matters is how it makes use feel and right now it feels like hololive just cut and run from the EN sphere
>>114699230it got popular in the west because miko said nigger than gura debuted thats it
>Kiara watched spiderman with her brother>she loved it
This is why Bandai Namco caters their gunpla towards East Asia and SEA. Murricunts are dramafags.
>>114699230Yeah, and the second EN came out, 95% of the EOPs went over to EN. Also, I've been here since the very beginning and Kizuna had all over her videos professionally subbed, which is something that was actually doable with short skits but completely impossible for a company with dozens of hours-long livestreams.
Today, I will remind them.
I saw EN retards trying to argue that cover needs to have live translators on streams now because of the merge lol, Fubuki was right go learn the language yourself instead of being a tourist and relying on everything being translated for you
>>114699189All they needed to do is announce HoloGTA S2 and I guarantee that not a tenth of the complainers would remain.
the merger is complete
>>114699231It's the cover wayStick your fingers in your ears and kick the talents into the front to do damage control for youNEVER answer questions or clarify yourself
The real reason:Most of ENfags are frontrunners.
>>114699016Ohasuba has translated text for 5 years now anon
>>114699259The movie or the brother?
>>114699280I really don't understand why they aren't doing a 2nd one, this would've been the perfect time to have it in October right before gta 6 comes out and it would have been a nice padding to the merge announcement.
>>114699287American baseball match in JapanesePerfect encapsulation of current events
>>114699287Thank you for keeping the spirit of EN alive for so long Mori, almost a day.
>>114699140Based redditchads actually fighting for the talents instead of rolling over and pretending Total Holo Death is actually good
>>114699287Why does Hololive keep trying to push themselves in MLB, if they want an American audience they need to do shit with the nfl
>>114699287>i have so many collabs lined up!!!!!!!!>jp lmao so much for her doing that sappy en tweet
>>114699272I will simply watch media in a language I understand.
>>114699287haha I'm goign to samefag this post 30 times like I did last night.
>>114699267Isn't that the exact same as a clock face, the hands change location but it doesn't erase the foundation
>>114699347cope
>>114699351nope, moonrunes don't work that way
>>114699303Subaru objectively does more EN pandering than any Japanese member barring Haachama, and despite that she has some of the least number of EN fans, which functionally sums up why none of them bother.
>2020: Mori doesn't even know any JP!>2026: Mori knows too many JPs!Wow, the fanbase had become mostly larpers.
>>114699339Goodbye then
>>114696936Based Miko, she knows that sidebranchwhores are just leeching japanese holo even more now. Also sidebranchwhores afraid of the merge because they know they're basically on the chopping block lol
>>114696518>Fold EN during its anniversary week and also announced a new JP gen in the same stream.Cover was delaying the news about visual updates and unironically delayed it until the week of the Myth anniversary. That is bad even for a Japanese corporation but I don't think it was malicious. Would have made more sense to announce the merge 2 months earlier but management dug themselves into a hole so they had to announce it this week.>>114698442>I dont think Cover is giving up on NA or the western market, what I think they want to do is deprioritize EN specificallyEN vtubers though are the only thing which could expand the number of EN viewers. The 2025 graduations hurt the EN branch a lot but cutting back on EN to hype up JP talents would only cause them to lose more EN fans. The EN vtuber market has declined and Hololive concerts in North America will be a tough sell in the middle of a recession but Cover is once again making some dumb short term decisions.
>>114699365>EN pandering"HELLOOOOOOOOOOO OVERSEAS GUYSSSSSSSS" is not EN pandering
>>114699330You can actually thank Gura for that.
>>114695779Hinami, my love~ Good thread. Also, was reading back some threads i missed and i find it hilarious that not even JPs like Kiara and just call her bitching the norm which should be ignored, kek.
>>114699384Translating for EOPs is, evidently more than they deserve
If you still like or support fuwamoco after this, you're a literal braindead drone NPC creature and deserve nothing good in life. Imagine supporting people that openly hate you for not being japanese despite not being japanese themselves.
>>114699287so mori will be speaking english in this right?right?
>>114699365Isn't Subaru known for RPGs? Her percentage is actually high considering she streams the equivalent of numbers poison to western viewers
>>114699362It literally is how moonrunes work but I was talking about how your brain works
>>114699287It's all so tiresome...
I just had a nostalgic flashback to the first EN/JP amogus collab where everyone fell in love with Polka (remember her? she exists)
>>114699306both, I'm her brother btw we had sex, she loves GoT.
>>114699361I hope you are having fun posting to the 6 people in this thread.
>>114699017>and given how most Holofans from Asia seem to watch the main branchEast Asia is very likely to spend money on EN actually, the region represents a large portion of Myth (-Kiara) and Promise's audience. In Korea, all of Promise is as popular as first army as well as in Hong Kong. Taiwan's biggest collabs with Hololive were with Gura, then Ina. The newer gens don't have as much presence in Asia, but globally the top earners of EN are just those 5 anyway.
>>114699445melty
>>114699365That's pretty crazy considering she does translate her morning stream recaps in english, wonder why she's so low. Subaru is definitely in my top 3, I love how she's always energetic/tomboy/straight man/etc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZzt5aS-6ZoHolo EN peaked here and it was never the same. It was like seeing someone reach for the stars and shoot themselves in the head because they are mentally ill.
>>114696936Miko and Suisei got their success after they joined hololive proper, so why couldn't EN? if they couldn't adapt then it's their fault
>>114699455yes that is what you are doing.
>>114699410Yes, but it's not only that. Subaru's second main form of content after JRPGs are anime watchalongs in JP hours, so he's just being retarded.
>>114699387Even when Gura did it, I don't think it really affected much because all it really did was funnel holo fans to go so they could get the elusive merch there lol
>>114699365Her voice is fucking awful
>>114699397Based Japanese pandering dogs, I hope they stop speaking English entirely
is holodex down
>On the last 24 hoursSora ticked AZKi tickedFubuki tickedIofi ticked Reine tickedElizabeth tickedRirika tickedKanade tickedEN Gold by Biboo, Global Gold by Miko, that HoloID vs NijiEN Tally was won by Kaela, COPE GOLD was won by Biboo, the song with the biggest growth was Libera Me From Hell with about 800,000 views. Uhmmm, what else....fuck it even the alternative metrics, that Kiara post had like 2 million views.
The merge really improved everything HUH?
>>114699477>second main form of content after JRPGs are anime watchalongs in JP hours>a dedicated watchalong day once a weekAnd you're calling other people retarded?
>>114699462>HoloEN peaked in 2024nice cope
>>114699397
>>114699508Hololive EN deserved to die
Where are the streams at holobros?
>>114699504yes
>>114699460It's an old chart, also no JP actually needs those EOP viewers, they don't watch streams they don't buy merch they don't join membership, EOP viewers are worthless
>>114699508the only person in en who ever streamed around this time was fauna anyway
>>114699508thanks for proving that literally nothing has changed because of the merger
>>114699370No one asked, ESL gaijin
>>114699519The second part is true tho
>>114696936>Even if the Harajuku Hololive Production place has JP and EN members mixed together, it doesn't really change.I was just there in Harajuku last week actually. If you didn't know better, could a passerby really guess Watame and IRyS were in different branches and not both JP members from this?
>>114699446I know Bae is popular with Koreans but most Korean Holofans I've met and interacted with online and offline were primarily watching JP Holos. At the end of the day though, there's no real definitive conclusions on how popular EN actually was unless somehow we get official numbers from Cover which will probably never happen now outside of maybe a leak.
>>114699561tick tock enshart, sidebranchwhores termination soon lol
>>114699374It's not delayed or anything, it's announced during Sora/Hololive anniversary so they do it exactly as they planned, the merge thing isn't even the main focus
I'm noticing that Nijishitters larping as Hololive fans are spreading FUD.
>>114699508The retards in this thread told me that HoloEN must move to Japan, conveniently forgetting the dead hours it causes.
>>114699589Stop leeching english discourse on this site, go back to your native pagpag language where you can form sentences properly
>>114699374>The EN vtuber market has declinedDo we actually have any numbers on this? I know there's Streamscharts but they use watchhours and also include the peanut.
>>114699555Pretty much, all my holo oshis have a very limited eop presence and its awesome.
>>114699594The cool thing about this being the numbers thread is that you can take a quick peek at the numbers and see that there have been literally 2 days of pointless shitting >>114699505
>>114699573cont. If you told a random shopper to pick the only English branch member here, would they be able to? The merch doesn't say "hololive English" on it
>>114699560Exactly>No streams>No EN concert the next year>No new EN units for yearsEverything is still the same.
>>114699605What fucking Holo would stream at 5 PM EST besides Gigi.Shiori? She has bronchitis nigga that's not Japan's fault
>>114699627>>114699505
>>114699634Dumb burger.
>>114699634Kiara
>>114699608ironic because those sidebranchwhores are leeching japanese holos now lol, vtubing is fundamentally a japanese hobby, not for some enwhores larping as japanese cartoon characters lol
>>114699585Well their streaming numbers are all we can go off, and judging by that its pretty clear that they are decently popular as a side branch and that's it
The best part of this retarded merge is that it's also happening RIGHT as we're entering a potential 3 month dead periodCover is literally fucking themselves with a cactus right now
>>114699508They don't have an incentive to do anything now other than to pander to japan. At least before they had a CHANCE to get stuff, now it's literally gonna be nothing. Don't be surprised if they stopped streaming as much because they learned of the merger early on. I assume kronii took her break because of it since she sees that their entire journey in holoEN meant nothing and they've been demoted to being dancing foreigner monkeys in a japanese company that doesn't want to keep them around for much longer and it all happened for no reason at all.
>>114699634
>>114699650Don't associate me with your schizos, you homosexual faggot.
Remember when biboo said she'd keep her usual timeslot after moving to Japan?What a lying bitch she was huh
I read half the thread and it's like you live in an alternate reality. You post and post but it's just nonsense, narratives, headcanons and discussion that goes nowhere. You say a lot of things about Hololive which are simply not true, you talk about members and put your feelings onto them as if they were their own. You shit on members over some image of them that only exist in your heads. You make multiple false equivalence examples about the merge situation, you make things up about the merge just to get mad about. I got a headache reading your posts.
>>114699657And you are ESL and post on this site obsessively without getting hired and paid to do so, it shouldn't be difficult for you to understand
>>114699687...her usual timeslot is 8 PM and all of her streams have been at 8 PMRetard
>Be an EN tourist>unironically only watch EN instead of familiarizing with JP proper>know that vtubing, especially Hololive is Japanese-adjacent.People spamming "le black ships" don't realise that the resulting Meiji era causes the Japanese to become modern, yes, but more isolationist.Tldr: you idiots brought this on yourselves by never actually learning the historical significance of "le black ships"
>>114699710Just like Gura's "usual timeslot' was 8pm when she overlapped Biboo right
>>114699716Cope and seethe, I'm watching indies.
Holo EN had been dead for at least a year, we were just coping.
>>114699719What
>>114699716Expecting millions of people to learn Japanese to watch women play video games is unrealistic.
Who mentioned black ships..
>>114699705the current owner of this site is literally a japanese esl, dumbass EOP lmao, maybe you should learn another language preferably japanese, knowing that your enwhores will be speaking more japanese and leeching japanese holos even more from now on, EOP retard
>>114699716bro you're insane if you think streamers are worth learning a language for
>>114699671Japanese companies are all ran by old retarded faggots so this isn't a Cover-exclusive thing. Jap game companies are far worse and even more retarded than Cover, if you can believe that. My main thing is vidya so you'll have to trust me on this, but it's real. They are retarded as fuck and it's seemingly ON PURPOSE.
So ID basically just has Kaela and Kobo as their only relevant ones, who seem fine with it. EN is kind of harder to regulate which ones matter more than others, but everyone except Kiara seems ok with it
>>114699725Like who
The only people saying its not worth it are phasecucks There are valid reasons not to learn Japanese but the perfect reason to do so is the hololive girls
>>114699746Then find a new hobby
>>114699750What does that have to do with it being an english-language site founded by an American? Sounds like special pleading, again you don't belong here but you post here in ESL gibberish for years anyway, samefagging hundreds of times with a proxy.
Protip: Most Murricunt fans were "tolerating, not accepting" idol culture. Now that the announcement has made. They're going mask-off.
>>114699785>>114699785>There are valid reasons not to learn Japanese but the perfect reason to do so is the hololive girlsTrue and based
>>114699813eufag seething that it was never relevant to begin with lol
>>114699764Oh believe me, I knowI'm just saying it's hilarious that they did this right now when all of EN is going to be MIA and doing things in Japan, making this an unfixable doomspiral for the fanbase worse than the grim era for the next few monthsAnd we don't even have a fauna to try and carry it this time lmao
do you really expect people to learn fucking japanese one of the hardest languages in the world just to watch vtubers
>>114699794pathetic EOP enshart can't even learn another language even for their enwhores lol, that American who founded this site? abandoned this site just like all the enwhores abandoning their EOPshart viewers lmao
>>114698992>>114698998complete fucking idiots who couldnt run a business to save their life
>>114699813Not even half of HoloEN members tolerate the idol culture.
>>114699834Depends, if you started watching in 2019 and are still watching today then that's 7 years
I'm not gonna learn japanese btw, this whole thing just solidified hating the language even more. It's an incredibly awkward, unspecific, caveman-like language for its people that have a culture of being obtuse, inconvenient, indirect and they just fucking hate being sentient and alive. Fuck japanese. There's a reason even they slowly adapt english words in their dumbfuck language that doesn't even have proper words for certain things. Fuck japanese, fuck Cover and may fuwamoco burn in hell right next to emperor hirohito.
>to just watch vtubers>just watchKek, this guy is unraveling himself to be a poser.
>>114699844They get paid to speak that language, you're here where no one wants you ban evading so you can speak my language for free, lol
>>114699140Ive always hated the whole "Fubuki is le wholesome chungus moral guardian of Hololive" bit
>>114699112comparing vtubers to anime is peak autism
>>114699852Fillian jumped to YouTube before dyingHenya started doing dual platform Bao went fleshieYou have Mouse because she is a 3view on YouTube, that's it.
>>114698313>even the biggest runts of JP are at least competing with the biggest Holo EN membersAnon is completely off mark here. The EN girls, alongside the DEV_IS girls are solidly in the middle of the table for viewership, being indistinguishable from the rest of the company in performance.Pic related has the YTD average live viewership for all of the Holo girls. Three things pop out of this otherwise unremarkable tables1) Vivi is surprisingly strong for her branch2) No ID girls fell to three views, that's an improvement from their typical performance. Also Kaela continues edging Kobo out, a prediction of this humble table maker going all the way back to mid 20243) Other than Chihaya (lagging for whatever reason) the FlowGlow girls (even Riona) took a commanding lead over the ReGloss girls with Raden and Ririka (by a large margin) trailing most of their branch.
>>114699884Because most EN fags only view the talents through memes, so Fubuki is just the le wholesome fox friend who can't do anything wrong
>>114699899You can stream on BOTH platforms retardThere's no downside
The holo ENs will keep streaming in English.... it's just that now they'll be sucking Japanese dick more often, we'll still have content to watch.
If your oshi was a jp holo it's not even a serious question.If your oshi is en you don't need to but the unspoken thing about being a hololive fan is self improvement and language is one of those methods of altering the way you think.
>>114699903>Marine being #1 with 43 streamsholy shit wtf happened to her
>>114699903Here is a better chart to better identity "top, middle and bottom" of this table
>>114699921being a weeb is the opposite of self-improvement
>going full mask-off and even suggesting Twitch.
>>114699878EOPshart melty lmaooo go learn japanese your enwhores need you to know japanese now because they'll be speaking it even more lol
>>114699934>calling someone a weeb on 4chan.Election Tourists were really the beginning of the end of this image board.
>>114699903preface to say I'm not agreeing with him, but EN looks in the middle because ID buffers almost 10 entries at the bottom and without them there, most of EN is bottom half right?>52 entries of JP+EN+DEV_IS>midpoint is 26-27only 3/14 EN girls are above that midpoint
>>114699934The self isn't how others perceive you
>>114699676Speaking of, didn't the merger happen at like 4am PST? If this merger actually was about globlization then why announce it at the worst time humanly possible for your main foreign audience?
>>114699952been here since 2008
>>114699924How do we save Polka?
>>114699140Good. Blind corporate worship is NOT a good thing no matter what people here say. I've always seen the blind worshipping of Cover to be a weird LARP of people here, like they're trying to be corporate cultists like the japanese are by default as a way to feel more "otaku" and hardcore about watching some fucking pretend anime people streaming. A lot of behavior here is sort of tied to that mindset, actually.
>>114699903>Matuli is dead last in JPhuh didn't know that
>>114699949Well you obviously understand the concept because you're here speaking english and you can't even form sentences properly, I don't see what the disconnect is.
>>114699922She lost Aqua, Shion, Ao, and Kanata even tho with her they kind of fell off years ago.
>>114699832Since Kiara is going insane again maybe we get another sock puppets arch where she copes by re-creating the best times of the dead EN branch.
>>114699967The stream was for Hololive's 9th anniversary, which targets Hololive's primary audience. The merger is only a very small portion of the stream
>>114699924>Sora all the way down thereWhy is the daisenpai of hololive so unpopular
>>114699999milquetoast
