I don't understand this merger debacle, I think it's a nothing burger. EN and ID talents are still here, and what's up with people offending Fubuki?. My head hurts just to see this pointless debacle, people are exaggerating. and I am not a bootlicker or a shill.
It's not a nothingburguer. We are never getting a new English speaking chuuba again.
A comment Foobs read while she was talking about how nothing changes and viewing it only as a positive, because it will enable even more freedom between collabs and events, summarized it well. "There was never a feeling of borders or restrictions for collabs between members, so people don't see why this is needed".She then pivoted to speculate that maybe the actual change is within management and that she doesn't know much about that.
>>114709931I think /vt/ at large hasn't realized this yet. Or at least internalized it.
It’s opportunists shitposting as if the bones and skin of each branch aren’t still intact. Some of it is genuine uncertainty, obviously, but any change will elicit reactions such as those.
No one actually knows how this will turn out. It could be bad or it could be good. I think we don't have enough details to really know one way or the other. We can only know with time.Much of what you are seeing in terms of debate is little more than baseless speculation from fans, spectators and tourists alike being egged on by drama channels.Most of the actual talents have expressed hope that the changes will be a good thing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh643cBijiwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNC3ueDsxBUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNDPxbCtPbIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fNkwSZS6nYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOV1gHoiw4Y
>>114709931you really cant be sure about that, they could for all we know do a mixed language gen now. while it might be a terrible dynamic for a gen it is now possible.
>>114709917Why are you asking in the anti board? You would only get bad takes here
>>114710139Ah, yes, here's the Mori "hope" in question, by the way.>Where are the EN members, where are the ID members? Well... From here on out, we're hololive. All of us. ALL OF US. So... So, something like "You're EN, you're ID"... I don't want to hear that! ...From here on out. And I don't expect go hear that! ...From here on out. We are one..... Right?Or how about Ina saying "I WOULD LIKE to think positively about this"?The girls know Cover just crippled them. They are just not melting down about it cause they ain't babies like Kiara.
>>114710165I am as sure of it as I am sure that Niji will have another buyback. I'm not interested in the "B-b-but what if" cope scenarios that we are pretending to engage in for peace of mind.
Better get comfy in that chair EOPs
>>114709931>We are never getting a new English speaking chuuba again.Stop watching hololive and watch phase instead or go indie.
>>114710400It's not the same. No collabs with holos, for starters.
>>114709917I think the issue is people just don't know what it means in terms of vtubing and the talents specifically because Cover has done fuck-all anything related to vtubing in years. Does this mean we're never getting any debuts that aren't Japanese chuubas anymore? Who knows, this company hasn't done a proper debut in years, in any language. What about community/corpo box events? Do we even still do those? People just don't know what it means so they default to a negative response.
>>114710531>Does this mean we're never getting any debuts that aren't Japanese chuubas anymore?It does btwThey have been moving in this direction and this is all the confirmation we will get until it's implicitly obvious years from now
>>114710215I am screenshotting your post, so that I will grudgepost you if Hololive does debut a new EN gen
Looks like competition for the next JPs IS real. They are going to drop the losers. They will probably pull a Niji and graduate the worst performing EN / ID. JP are protected once you make it though.
>>114710615The last proper JP debut is further back than EN.
>>114710729Go ahead. I will live comfortably and rot away in your failed grudgeposts folder.>>114710776>Hiding behind "proper"We're not getting debuts. Proper or not.
>>114709917you need to stop reading posts written by seaniggers
>>114710400Yuck
>>114709917The jp side isn't losing anything, and mio even said that absolutely nothing will change for her. Meanwhile the rest will have to give up their identity, and recognizable branding.Honestly found it really hard reading all that from her, its so utterly tone deaf. Basically "Nothing is changing for me so I dont understand why anyone else would be upset." Not what you'd expect from her.
>>114712180Nothing changes with the larger talent pool and larger fanbase.
>>114710400>watch phaselmao phasebeggar
>>114709917I see it sort of like the dream of capitalism vs the realism.Ideally, everyone has equal opportunities, but realistically nepotism, connections and money wins out.
>>114710531new gens will come from mekPark which seems to be only for jp
>>114709931Based if true
>>114710139doesnt counts
>>114709917>Ok miss fubuki, from now on, you are no longer Hololive Japan, but Hololive Global!>Yes, your branch is merged into global. >Yes, please remove that Japan flag from your Twitter profile>Aren't you happy you can now play with your global friends?>Nothing changes, your branch is just merged into Global! You can still speak Japanese! Didn't you understand our announcement just now (which was in English?)>Don't worry, you can still join in the Global (English) events! Nothing changed right?>What do you mean 5 years building home grown fans? They're not going anywhere silly, you're just global now!
>>114709917I always trust the opposite of what shareholder Fox says.
>>114710776Ah... It's one of those "Dev_IS isn't really JP it's just coincidentally have only members speaking Japanese" arguments...The fact that you need to use word "proper" just to exclude them really say a lot.
>>114710776Disingenuous nigger. There are two JP only mekpark gens and a whole new Jp only gen they have just announced without even bothering to translate the announcement into English.
>>114710139So Kiara, Ollie, Iofi and Moona’s opinions are invalid?
>>114709917dramafags rrat, doomers doom, tribalfags oogaboogathats all there is
>>114709917Since she is so insistent on there being just Hololive now I am going to grudgepost in her chat asking her to speak more in English.What is good for the goose is good for the gander
>>114710400>every time
>>114713979
>>114714036We don't need more EN schizos
>>114709931This
>>114709917Imagine a branch called Hololive USA, and it gets merged into what is effectively Hololive Japan. That's how it feels to lose the thing you've been proud of and fighting for
>>114710355Kek
>>114710165>"Here is our new gen, with each member separated by a language barrier, ensuring there is absolutely zero cohesion or unit identity."Yeah, it's just going to be JP members going forward. No amount of copium will fix that.
>>114710400Go fuck yourself
>>114710435It's exactly what you're asking for when you're saying you want to watch english speaking vtubers.
>>114720703Its. Not. The. Same.There's>no IRyS>no Biboo>no Flarerys>no Ina>no Subaru>no Koroneand I could go on. I can't give two shits about Pippa or most of the other Phases. Maybe Uruka, but thats only because ahe actually plays the violin regularly unlike CC. And Marimari, whose about the only actually good Phase talent. But Phase in general is just kinda meh
>>114719642>>114710816ok, we will see soon lolkeep piling the responses for a grudgepost
>>114710139>No one actually knows how this will turn out. It could be bad or it could be good. I think we don't have enough details to really know one way or the other. Anyone who had a job and lived through "mergers" knows how this shit always turns out
>>114709917Let’s check in on the talent reaction: >Kiara: Suspended >ID: Doomposting and memeing >Bae: Memeing on her alt>Rest of Holo EN: Corpo statements
>>114721194This. No company merges branches because things are going well. It just makes it a hell of a lot easier to fire 90% of the people employed under those branches later on.
>>114721113It is the same.
>>114710139it seems not even the talents know what the fuck is going to happenwhy is it so hard for cover to be transparent and explain to both their fucking employees and their customers (fans) what exactly is changing and how is it going to affect day to day and larger scale operations?
