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Ollie was playing a fishing game with Michi, Arielle, and U-san, and one of them made a joke about Ollie having management and Ollie went "about that..." and then Michi started laughing and was like "right! I forgot! I'm so sorry!"

I don't think the future is bright for non-Japs in Holo
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They will try to keep Mori and Kobo at the very least
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Based indogs
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If they don’t have management, isn’t that a boon to them? Ollie specifically has always been unhinged. A gripe had by countless viewers has been that management is too strict; is a lack thereof suddenly a bad thing now?
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>>114733019
Of course it's Michi stirring up drama for Ollie, she's such a retard for associating with that social climbing trash
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>>114733019
According to Cover’s biggest boot lickers on this board, none of this matters and the merger is a great decision.
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>>114734628
why wouldn't she associate with her IRL friend?
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>>114734846
Knowing someone IRL doesn't mean the friendship isn't transactional. Once nijitrash always nijitrash
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>>114733268
If you're unfamiliar with japanese employment, they're implying it's a "quiet firing". Typical case where an underperforming employee gets isolated so that they voluntarily quit rather than the company firing them down the line.
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>>114735036
They can't be stupid enough to not know the money they pull in can support their entire families comfortably in Indonesia. So no matter how isolated and uncomfortable they try to make a streamer that discomfort will never compare to getting a real job or barely making ends meet as an indie after the novelty of them being ex-holo fades.
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>>114735242
>barely making ends meet as an indie after the novelty of them being ex-holo fades
Michi is doing better as Michi than she did as Mika. Could Ollie not potentially stay in that group orbit and grow to a respectable indie?
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>>114733169
Mori is dead.
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>>114735333
Maybe I guess but isn't Michi a powerhouse in terms of stream hours? that I imagine contributes a ton to her succes.
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>>114735242
You never know. They can revise their contracts to be hostile to the legal limit so that it's unreasonable to renew.
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>>114735486
How are these stream hours?
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>>114733019
please post the vod link with timestamp

>>114733268
>isn’t that a boon to them?
an ID manager for an ID talent means a certain degree of leniency that JP man agers will not offer, they're stricter, and far more unwilling to let things pass, or willing make trouble out of fairly innocuous things.

i wouldn't be surprised if they already axed some of the ID and EN staff.
i think the changes aren't as simple or as superficial as they make them out to be, and that the merged branches permit "thinning out" the members of those underperforming branches, and pushing the remainders towards doing JP only/majority content. FWMC is kind of a proof of concept for this, and that holo making talent's transition into making some/most/all JP content is a possibility.
i think separate branches are harder to kill off, at least not without outrage, the opportunity of affected talents reappearing as indies and their audiences following them and ditching holo; they can't kill them off without creating competition and instantly losing goodwill and customers to them.

i wish i could believe what they say, but holo's actions signal the complete opposite, and that's impossible for me to ignore.
maybe 2-3 years from now everything's fine, the ID and EN are happy and genuinely thriving doing what they want under holo, and that today i was just being a doomfaggot, but man...
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>>114735774
it was somewhere in this clip
I didn't think to save the timestamp or I would have put it in the OP
https://youtu.be/nPrt3uxIET8
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>>114735852
found it, it's a bit after @ 20:54
https://youtu.be/nPrt3uxIET8?t=1254
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>>114735852
>>114736019
also find it funny that she's apologizing in japanese, almost as if it wasn't towards ollie.
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>>114736019
how'd you find it so fast? what's the trick?
I didn't want to comb through the whole video to put it in the OP lmao
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>>114736276
open comments, 'view transcript' button.
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>>114735612
she streams during them
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>>114736072
EN vtubers randomly say Japanese words all the time even if they don't actually speak Japanese, it's fucking annoying
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>>114738048
Only one of the vtubers in that collab is an EN vtuber, and she's not the one speaking Japanese.
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>>114735036
The difference being vtuber companies don't give you severance pay so this strategy doesn't even make sense from the company's perspective.
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>>114738127
If they quit on "their own terms" then it spares the company some flak if done right (see Coco)
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>>114733019
Ironic being bbfs with the one person that understands exactly what Ollie is going through.
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>>114733019
Everything that the holomems say keeps vindicating the idea that the merger is nothing more than a desperate attempt to cut operational costs (ie; reducing managerial structure, support teams, licensing costs, streamlining promotional layouts) to keep the company afloat.
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>>114735774
It's a good thing and a bad thing. As a company you want your managers to be honest with you and not cover (heh) for the talents.

Aren't a lot of EN Managers brought in from the talents themself? At least for the few ones that lived outside of japan.
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>>114733169
The only good non JP holo anyways, so that a win for me
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>>114742922
You are not Japanese, Ken-sama.
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>>114733169
I doubt it.
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>>114737743
Yes, she does.
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Everything will be fine.
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>>114738127
>The difference being vtuber companies don't give you severance pay so this strategy doesn't even make sense from the company's perspective.
It's to act as buffer for inevitable backlash, while fans went full Doakes on cover but nothing more.
They did the same fucking thing to the boys.



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