>holoEN fucking imploding>Holostars on its very last leg>HoloID looking at the writing on the wall in horror>DEV_is and FLOWGLOW sad that their units are effectively disbanded to be subsumed by the whole of the Hololive mass>fans of every chuuba in complete disarray>Suisei:
Hololive will do fine. All thats going on is Nijisisters and Phasecucks being retarded
>>114735025The queen does not concern herself on what these pitiful peasants are going through. Let them eat cake as they say.
>>114735025>holoEN fucking implodingliterally just Kiara, everyone else is doing fine
Throughout heaven and earth and all that
>>114735025DEV_IS are happy about it lol, one less layer of redundant management to block them from getting the same shit as "real" holos
>>114735025I told you JP is the only worthwhile branch, but you didn't listen.
>>114735339they have STOLEN kanade's dai senpai status from her.
>>114735025That's how it all starts in 5 years her gunt will protrude so much she won't even be able to see her feet and I couldn't be more excited
>>114735255>Kronii, ERB, Shiroi all taking breaks>CC streaming much less often>Kira having a massive fucking meltdown live>FWMC being totally tone def to the mood and jumping for joy about this>Calli getting annoyed because perms>almost universal issues with management across the whole gen for monthsyeah things are going great man lol
>>114735424irys and fwmc are the only ENs that matter
>>114735463>irys and Mori* are the only ENs that matterNo one cares about the twins when the novelty of them being soft voiced synced twins wears off.
>>114735424How convenient you leave out Biboo, who is still cute, funny, cunny and the JPs are still uoh'ing over her. Or the fact that she still streams, and inf act streamed FOUR TIMES in the past two days. Also very convenient that you leave out IRyS, who very much benefits from this move the most, along with Bae.>>114735463'xactly.
>>114735255Everyone else is pretending to be fine with it so Cover doesn’t "forget" about their visa.
>>114735424When has EN ever not taken a break?
>>114735618>so what if the vast majority of EN is losing it right now, one of the EN members still streams a tonyeah you really got me. that's my point blown out of the water.
>>114735424>Kronii>taking a breakliterally in Japan for work but keep repeating that lie I guess
>>114735698Yes, blown out of the water. Also you conveniently focus on one while ignoring the other four that will benefit from this move.>its a minorityAbout the only thing I MIGHT give you for, but I remain optimistic. Time will be the real judge.
>>114735618Biboo is funny and sexy but too tall to be a proper loli, I don't understand how japs are uohing over a girl that's 8 or 9 inches shorter than them on average lmao
>>114735424>all the ENs are either taking breaks or having woman momentsSo nothing has fundamentally changed.
>>114736079i mean... yeah i guess i can't really come back with a counter argument on that one.
>>114735424>>Kronii, ERB, Shiroi all taking breaksKronii and Shiori are literally in Japan doing work right now >>CC streaming much less oftenShe went on a sabbatical cuz some of family members died or something, but she's also in Japan right now with Gigi and Kronii >>Kira having a massive fucking meltdown liveShe's always very dramatic and emotional but also she's also clarified that other shit is bothering her beyond the merger >>FWMC being totally tone def to the mood and jumping for joy about thisI mean, yes lol this is a fair point >>Calli getting annoyed because permsShe was mostly just trolling/taking the piss about the merger potentially getting rid of the concept of "Regional perms" >>almost universal issues with management across the whole gen for monthsLiterally everyone is almost always butting heads with Management about something, that's like pretending the Middle East getting bombed is newsworthy, it's normalized and excepted if anything lol>yeah things are going great man lolFor someone supposedly concerned about EN's wellbeing, you don't seem very aware of what most of them are even doing or where any of them are even at.....
>>114735062have you even looked at any comments? it's longtime die hard holo fans that are freaking out, because the talent is freaking out
>>114735025Fat fuck
>be DEV and FLOWGLOW>Everyone is confused about the distinction when your gen launches>Get debated about whether you are officially part of Hololove JP or not>Get a fraction of the support other games got on debut and it shows from sub growth>Cover waits almost two years until pulling the "actually you're Hololove now :DDD" card after it heavily impacted your debut and successActually hilarious. Right up there with Hololive Earth or Cover investing in a 3D studio they can't even staff properly
>>114735255Kiara's freakout alone would already be a headache for Cover if EN cared, they're trying to silence her almost like they tried to silence Haachama. This is probably gonna be a turning point for Hololive's reputation.
>>114737512No one is going to take her seriously when her meltdown is just because of her ego can't handle losing her arbitrary EN daisenpai status
>>114735994They did it for Gura, and they now do it for Biboo
>>114737417So you want them to keep being side branch? They are literally happy about the merge tho
>>114737535I've seen her unarchived karaoke meltdown (which Cover went to lenghts to scrub off every part of the internet apparently...) and that shit was BAD. It completely shattered my trust in Hololive. She might be menhera but at the end of the day she shows her face and is accountable for her character. The suits aren't. And I don't trust a faceless bureaucracy.
she already negotiated her own deal with the company separate from all this
>>114737603>I've seen her unarchived karaoke meltdownOh? So I assume you saw the part where she mentioned that her reason behind her melty has more to do with other shit she's choosing not to disclose than just the merger?
>>114735424>FWMC being totally tone def to the mood and jumping for joy about this>and other things brownoids tell themselvesthey're happy precisely because they SHOULD be happy about it, fuck EN branch as a whole
>>114737692I mean I know she also has the fibromyalgia and other personal stuff but she still mostly talked about the merge. If the chronic pain was the main issue she'd have talked more about that. Keep in mind that I've already had reservations about Cover and the absolute disaster the last couple days have been have kicked those suspicions into overdrive. For the record I'm a JP starmin so I already had the bitter experience of a "corporate restructure" making my oshi cry.
Yagoo is far more trustworthy than some spoiled westoid cunt
>>114735025i can fix her
>>114735424if you say so, indian cuck
>>114737603Oh yeah? Tell me how BAD it is, there is literally no valid reason to be overly dramatic about the merge, you can complaint all you want when something bad actually happen, but right now? It's basically just crying about something that may or may not happen in the future
>>114735062They were saying that about Ubisoft as well in 2016.
>>114735062Hololive WILL be fineIf anything, it's the fans that are going apeshit and refuse to think of anything other than "EN and ID are disbanded"
>>114738838>fansRetard, its Nijisisters and Phasecucks. This board has gone to shit ever since the 4chan crash a year ago and all the real Holobronies moving to Holotower. Add on to that this fucking site becoming more of alt-right echochamber and you have a dwindling userbase across ALL boards. Back a year ago we could at least pride ourselves as the last hope of 4chan. But now even that is fucked thanks to Holotower and no EN 5
>>114738905>brings up alt-right out of nowhere>on this site of all placesGo back to plebbit/twitter if normal opinions make you this upset. If anything I've seen more fags here than usual since the EN sphere accommodates these troglodytes.
>>114735062ThisAll the fussing over the merger is just phaseniggers deflecting from pippa sucking on that one guys gear stick
>>114737512Nobody tried to silence Haachama, they tried to save her from herself. It's always such a bizarre narrative to pretend to both be a fan of her but also mad at Cover. In any other company and if she were allow to make choices while in a bad mental state, she would have been fired and/or her quitting would have been accepted. They've literally bent over backwards to find a new category just for her so she doesn't throw away this opportunity.Also, Haachama was having actual schizoid delusions and that makes her sympathetic, Kiara is just trying to rile up her freak fanbase to support her roommate even more yet again.
>>114739363While that's true but Gen 1-fubuki hasn't always been treated the best and that's something I feel lead up to the incident among others
>>114735424>Kira having a massive fucking meltdown liveYAGAMI RAITO!
>>114735062Imagine blaming Niji and Phase when it is the Holo side being schizo. Lame and hilarious to see.
>>114735424>Calli
>>114735025>FLOWGLOWnone of them said anything
>>114739363The stress and unhappiness was real but she was far less delusional than is usually implied by Cover's usual PR drones.
>>114737512>This is probably gonna be a turning point for Hololive's reputationPast a certain point companies can survive a shitty reputation, ie. Blizzard. They will just tank losing their old audiences and move onto attracting someone who they haven't alienated yet.
ONE blue bitch quits and the entire thing falls to pieces. Jesus Christ.
>>114735025Based Queen.
>>114735025>Dev_is and Flowglow Holy retarded larper when the right one should be regloss and flowglow.And also the Dev_is girls have no problem with the merge instead, they're all happy with it, the only one "complaining" is Kanade memeing about the first dev_is senpai. Dramaniggers are so ignorant and retarded
>>114742802holo seethe
>>114735025Architects eating good when their girls are eating good
>>114742641
>>114735025>Suisei makes a tweet about her personal lifeOP: How do I make a shitpost out of this?
>>114737768Shut up Fuwawa
>>114737417I mean, this is 100% in FlowGlow's case, but Dev had Raden (who is a massive success, by any metric) and healthy meme culture surrounding Hajime and Kanade. Ironically, getting rid of Ao was the best thing they did before this merger.
>>114738905>spoileradVent
heel cbt and pegging
>>114738088Too bad Yagoo isn't in charge anymore, dumb fuck. The shareholders are
>>114743739You have the timeline completely wrong, ReGloss got established by their concert and then grew from there. But to get their concert was where they were openly sub-begging and making it clear management didn't even regard them as human until they hit specific sub goals. And in that era of ReGloss, Ao was arguably the most popular member. Ririka is still barely ahead of her and Kanade also only passed her while she was on hiatus.Flow Glow had barely any struggle because people know what Dev_is was by that point. People are just delusional and think they would have gotten more subs if they were Gen 7 but no Hololive stuff is getting past an initial burst of subs anymore. Even the most popular members often grow very slowly and the industry is mostly dead subs.
>>114742593Delusions by their nature are just as minimal as a state of mind the delusional individual is in. Anyone who killed themselves would have opted not to kill themselves a minute later if they received the right chemicals in the brain.
>>114735062>NijisistersAs someone whose oshi took the brunt of NDF depravity it's so funny to see Holodrones corncob themselves like this after two years of insisting that NijiEN's with the main branch merger was imminent.
>>114745805That's not what I'm talking about. It's more like there's ultimately limited opportunities for talent and not everyone will be promoted equally. You're not supposed to crash out to your chat about that because these are just the ugly realities of the entertainment industry that most fans and certainly the corpo don't want to acknowledge. But she also go involved when Hololive was a glorified tech demo, not an executive-tuned idol factory, and she was selected as a minor, which makes it a messy situation for Cover. Pretending it's "just" a mental health crisis and it's sunshine and rainbows and she's hallucinating the same problems everyone else has remarked on quietly, saves face for everyone. You can disagree but I won't see you as an adult. I understand acting like the lie is true, it protects a lot of people including her, but I certainly would never actually believe it. And I hope she has an exit strategy or at least gets some more leverage or allies inside the machine. Welcome to the big-time entertainment industry. It's not playing Minecraft with friends in 2018 Hololive.
>>114735025Isn't it basically rigged so that Suisei gets all of the money from Hololive for her own stuff?
>>114746056She's doing the right thing, which is to get Cover by the balls and squeeze anything she wants out of them. If you trust them or don't get leverage, you end up like Kanata.
>>114735618>How convenient you leave out Biboo>Also very convenient that you leave out IRySHolocuck, management thought Irys and Bijou were the same person...
>>114737768they never liked their en fans, and the en fans they have left are retarded cucks that would buy did fleas in a box, if Fuwamoco were shillling it.
>>114736226The hiatus is just smoke and mirrors. CC doesn't stream because she got raped ans groomed by her Managers to do so, and becausw her fans mean nothing to her. Streams dont let them watch her 5 hour dance lessons and they don't help with selling her IP to the next milk tea store either. If she love her fans like she often lies about shed simply stream but talking her 7th Japan vacantion this year is just so much more important.
>>114742641If Holo EN was an anime, then Gura's graduation was the end of the series peak popularity. Fauna's graduation was when it started falling off. And now it's been canceled and we're just in an infinite OVA.
>>114746687>Streams dont let them watch her 5 hour dance lessons and they don't help with selling her IP to the next milk tea store either.You have 3 options, anon
>>114746263Kek forgot about thatCan't tell them apart, they both speak dead branch
>>114735424Shhh, these are the same people who cheered on Selen abuse; wrote Haachama off as a nutcase and spend months spinning narratives about all former Holos being "traitors" on /vt/. Most of them really like to pretend to be holofags post hack and think they fooled everyone.
>>114737768Really letting the mask slip aren't we KumarThank God that Gura, Fauna and Mumei got away from you freaks. You and Cover deserve each other.
>>114738088>why yes I do oshi the company>lick the corpo's feet like a subhuman bugslave or you are spoiled and lazyGenuinely indistinguishable from boomers, from the drone mentality masquerading as work ethic to the self-righteous and self-deluded entitlement. This illustrates precisely why the Americans expended tens of thousands of Chinamen on building the transcontinental railroad - because grueling slave labor comes naturally to the Asiatic and their lives are worth a fraction of a white man's.
>>114749049You're literally sucking the farts of the most self-righteous and entitled person in the business. She thinks the entire industry exists to serve her exclusively.
>>114735025
>>114745979None of the legitimate crash out shit she did is a problem, literally every Holo and their mom has done the same without issue. It's the way mental illness warps her perception to make her wrongly believe she was specifically persecuted and had no means of forming bonds or success that was the problem. Letting her indulge those suicidal fantasies just becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you tell yourself everyone hates you and it will never get better, you'll do things that make your life worse.
Suisei is not Hololive anymore, she is a complete outsider.She's literally a dog for Sony Music now, an industry plant if you will.
>>114749567What suicidal fantasies? Are you sure? What she did do was talk metaphorically about the "death" of her vtuber persona. This is what I mean. Don't just assume whatever you hear is true, there's so much misinformation out there already, now you're just adding your own. It makes you part of the problem. Unless you're doing it on purpose for your own reasons, you should really know better. There are people out there who are quite happy to spin rrats too, and not as a mistake.
>>114749482What else do the voices tell you
>holoEN impldingI fucking wishI miss the golden age so much
>>114735025>DEV_is and FLOWGLOW sad that their units are effectively disbanded to be subsumed by the whole of the Hololive massAHAHAHAAHAHA AO GOT HER RETARDED ASS FIRED FOR NOTHING AAHAHAHAHAHAALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS WAIT <1YEARAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHAHAH FAGOOOOGOGOGOGOT
>>114737807>I mean I know she also has the fibromyalgiamade up middle class white women disease doctors "diagnose" them with because they'd get fired if they told them the truth: their problems are almost all self-induced so stop being a dumb bitch and your problems melt awayit's basically the white women's adhd diagnosis
>>114735424Who the fuck are shiroi and kira?
>>114753094I think she's quite happy in Avengers JP.
>>114753439>Avengers JPliterally who?
>>114735025She doesn't really need hololive desu.>>114735062The company has ditched the western economy and has decided to go all in on the dying yen
>>114735424This garbage was posted on X several times too all the while said hiatus girls where in offcollabs lmao (dunno about ERB)I don't know why people are afraid of ai spreading bullshit when your average retard on the internet will say whatever they want to force a narrative
>>114753500Your toilet paper money is crashing even faster, fat fuck.https://youtu.be/WvFCWACPfnY
>>114753500>The company has ditched the western economy and has decided to go all in on the dying yenConsidering en is dying because amerifats can't buy their acrylic stands anymore because of orangeman's retardation then you can't really blame them for consolidating
>>114749951Cover owns literally half of her company mongoloid
>>114735618the botting astroturfed whore is a company shill? #whoa #wow
>>114749951You don't even know what industry plant means you fucktard
>>114748566Don't post mumei for your parrot posts you nigger
>>114753210Saiken MD (a real doctor) made a post about fibromyalgia it's real diagnosis and has real treatments.https://x.com/saikenMD/status/2086658183511085263
>>114753490Sakuna, Roa, Ruka, Rei, Mizuma, Rica, and probably more in the future.
>>114753766lol
>>114753779>ricaShe doesn't even have anything to do with any of those, like at all.Whatever analogy you're making is less "Avengers JP" and more whatever the state of marvel capeshit was before yidsney took over and gave that feige guy the go ahead to attempt a shared universse, ie it's a disparate bunch of characters that you'd think would be linked but due to release dates and other circumstances have virtually no connection.
>>114753500I'm a total retard when it comes to finance, but now that you mention it, I can't help but think that America buying trillions of yens one day out of nowhere is the underlying cause of the merge. Especially considering it was for nothing anyway, apparently.
>>114753624>anon has been in a coma for the past 18 years>btw let me blow money I don't have on plastic tat made by our geopolitical adversaries that's more important than jobsAnon, I hate to tell you this, but it's not the orange man who is retarded
>>114753967It's more I saw this collab, it's not like they aren't capable of building tighter links if they care to.
>>114754046I should say totsu rather than collab, one is also Kson's artist.
>>114753977retard
>>114753977it's still the best explanation for cover's pivot:declining sales nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumbers from en goods because of tariffs and now that burgers are gonna be made to die for israle in order to prize open the straight of whorejews etc., which has caused havoc with transport prices worldwide etc., that they now think it best to consolidate and defend the homeislands like it's 1943 again. you think europoors can buy enough chinese made plastic crap with holo labels on it to make it worth their time to keep en gong? lmaoooooooooooooo
>>114754191I can see the declining sales angle and the tariffs/global economy being an elephant on stilts are definitely two of many grains of sand on the pile. My only point is that American disposable income has been falling steadily for decades regardless, as it has been across most of the West for that matter, which means less expenditure on vtubing and pretty much all hobbies for that matter (see: vidya).I simply wouldn't be shocked if in most alternate timelines Cover went ahead with this kind of contraction regardless of the particulars of how mudslimes and Israhell decided to blow up children this time.
>>114735062Cope
>>114753977explain
>>114737575They hate the merge
>>114745732Ao was literally never popular. She's the only japanese member in the history of hololive to fail at selling out a limited merch set.
>>114753779She only has contact with 3 of those and one of them was sent in by Marine.
When it comes to Holo, I always have to wait and see what the accepted reaction will be because it swings back and forth so much.One day it's the corpo's fault and you should never question the talent.On another day it's the talent who is wrong and the corpo knows better.If Fubuki makes a statement then anyone who doesn't agree is wrong.If Fubuki makes a statement then of course she did since she is a corpo mouthpiece who will always defend the corpo like a typical japanese.
>>114735025Isn't Suisei currently getting shit on by a bunch of normies for appearing at some concert?
>>114754046Rica isn't even in this picture.
