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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://vtubertracker.info/en
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vstats.jp/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/
>https://holo-tracker.vercel.app/
>https://www.holostats.com/
>https://charts.vtaac.workers.dev/
>https://logs.holofun.net/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com
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I love kiara
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>>114784748
The last time I was here, the OP image was always manga page
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So holodrones are now no better than Nijinigs?
They'll just throw Kiara under the bus because management's mouthpieces told them to?
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>>114784848
boy nijiniggers never got over the public siding with Doki over them huh?
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Kaela confirmed that the dedicated branch budget for ID and EN projects and events is now gone.
>"All of this time right? All this time, like Chromatic Future, HoloID concert right? It's just pure management project. Okay so we have management project and we have individual project and all of this time what we considered as management project gonna go by management budget and what we consider individual project gonna go by individual budget. Since there is no such thing as ID or EN anymore, there's no more budgement anymore for management project, so yeah. So if you ask me that, if HoloID really really wanted to still have a concert, of course we can, but there is no budget anymore for that because maybe we're gonna prioritize our own individual projects. So yeah... But again, propbably there will be more and more and more individual projects from each of your oshi, and this is not only happening on ID or EN, it's everybody guys. It's everybody, so like you know, I don't know guys changes are super scary but now each talent, each individual talent has more time to focus on individual projects somehow, and if they wanted to invite individual talents to their projects, it's good to go. And there is less things we are forced to do because it's like 'we will support what you want to do in what way you want to do' and it's more specific, kind of, yeah. I don't want to say all of this are pros, and all of this are cons. Everything has their own pros and cons"
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>>114784848
someone should just kill this poster
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Rurudo's voice is so sexy
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>>114784881
>>114784889
He is trying the biboo schizo strat spam it everyday and make people finally hop on his dick
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>>114784881
Yeah nijiniggers were raped by Selen and Doki winning
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Biboos new outfit kinda sucks huh
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>>114784939
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Fun fact of the day :
An average full body commission art is around 150$ and when a corpo vtuber ask for commission they ask corpo tax depending on how big your corpo is

So biboo spent around 4k on 23 art commission plus extra for the ui art and another 1k on the gacha animation ludokano did
So she spent roughly around 10k on just show casing random shit on her stream because her fans would love it
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Biboos new outfit kinda rocks huh
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>>114784939
lel
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>>114784921
The bibooschizo strat doesn't work either so why copy a shitty strat like that
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>>114784951
Heh it's okay
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>>114784983
Because our schizos are retarded as fuck . The pcg on are cool and always end up making funny shit but we get repeat schizo no29 everyday
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>>114784994
I wish this one would at least use less shitty pics
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>>114784972
I literally don't care
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this is blue archive tier
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>>114784881
Are there even any significant male watchers other then Aia and Scarle fans with a % of oilers now that Rosami fans bailed with her (Maybe Petra fans waiting for her to bail as well)
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>>114784869
Yagoo looking a little like pic related.
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>>114784972
I care and it's true about the corpo cut thing.
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>>114784972
Biboo is either making a bank or she is too retarded to spend all her money on her dumb fans
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EBAH4eXDxnk
how come the English channel still uploads English stuff?
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>>114785027
aia and scarle are only significant locally, their entire audience can fit inside a city bus
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WHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIES
WHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIES
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTY
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTY
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYY
WHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIES
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the VOD of Mekpark's Unit B's Mira, who doesn't even have a live 2D model, of her randomly playing 2hu songs on piano and occasionally screeching has 46k views.
So, compare that to picrel
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>>114785072
It has over 1 mil subs. Of course they aren't going to just throw it away like that.
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>>114785174
If Gigi looked like this I might actually have watched her
On mute
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>>114785174
holy booba
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>>114785019
>>114785071
Such a melty for no reason kek
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Is We Getting Clara next or is that a schizo throwing shit and seeing what sticks
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always leeching
always shitting the company
always after pussy
never leaving
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>>114785231
Sex with this Biboo while she's still in the shopping cart
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>>114785269
When will Holostars starts their invasions to Phase and other indies again?

They need to soil the competitions
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>>114785026
Gura made a cover for the game, maybe Biboo could also do it someday.
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>>114785027
Scarle and Aias fandoms are tiny, paypig heavy, and insular. Someone posted Scarles graph in the Niji EN thread the other day her fans don't watch anyone else in the company, they presumably only watch other gooner/ASMR indies and small corpo girls. Petra/Elira/Enna/Millie all seem to share the same pool of remnant fans. No one watches Finana, Maria or Klara. Meloco has fans but they're Japanese.
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>>114784972
Btw she has been doing these since the first outfit
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>>114785306
>starts their invasions to Phase
>starts
>>114745016
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>>114785048
Stop working with people who charge extra fees if you want them to stop doing it. If people just keep paying they have no incentive to stop
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>>114784869
>Biboo is the Advent transfer student into Promyth Koukou
I'd trade Kiara for Biboo
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>>114785347
Yeah I know but 23 artist is way too crazy of a number
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>>114784972
sasuga Vibhu
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>>114785368
From my understanding the big vtuber artist are on some private discord where they do these group art posting on x and other shit
It's like an unofficial art union and the rates are fixed so the chances of finding a good art person who doesn't take such corpo cut thing is very low
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>>114785139
Grim.
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>>114784791
Rakuten will close on September 30
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>>114785254
No one even knows if Clara's still around there's no recent news about her.
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I wonder how Kiara is doing.
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>>114785254
>is that a schizo throwing shit and seeing what sticks
This one
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>>114785400
You got the link to the post?
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>>114785400
>>114785428

Oh I didn't even know they had a french branch
The JP Rakuten is way too big to close now
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>>114785400
Isn't that just for frogs?
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Can you stop mentioning Kiara? You're ruining the mood of the thread.
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Richest rapper on the scene call me Mr lean
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>>114785174
she is hiding grems
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>>114785453
>Doing JP streams like management ordered her to while staying silent while Kiara gets the Selen treatment
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>>114785436
>>114785437
Yeah and it's NijiEN fault
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>>114785416
god, schoolgirl biboo is sex
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Yeah it's over for Studio Stellar...
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>>114785480
You may not know this but Rakuten was a major sponsor for nijikoshien and they dropped out of it last year. I guess Rakuten is cutting loses or running on red
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Gn
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>>114785453
riona mogs
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this is a ragebait game
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bros I don't think our Kiara Selen meme is catching on...
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>>114785499
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>>114785499
I was thinking about the NBA thing but kek
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>>114785387
Kind of illegal but yeah good luck actually getting anyone to regulate something like "vtuber art".
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>>114785499
biblue archive my beloved
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>>114785410
If you mean Clara from Phase no one except a microcorp would hire her
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>>114785512
N-No...
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>>114785521
I know about this because one of the retard with like used by 30k followers tweeted that they are preparing something for art thing. They generally do a lot of kronii art because somehow twitter algorithm like blue woman with big tits
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>>114785519
This is the most liked and that cutie line wait a sec-
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#whereiskiara
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>>114785538
Rrat is forming
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>>114785531
BASED
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>>114785546
You're out of your element.
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>>114785546
Here
https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Selena
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>>114785512
>He didn't see the youtube comments on clips of Mori and Ina throwing Kiara under the bus
This is the only place full of holodrones being management bootlickers
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>HoloEN throwing each other under the bus for the corpo cock
meanwhile indie avengers have had no such drama during their 2 years so far
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>>114785577
Let em know! Despite that non-compete non-collab clause they slapped on us Avengers, we are still more united than Holo is!
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its funny watching this retard samefag so hard while the rest of the thread just ignores his attempts to shitpost
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>>114785564
>>114785577
>>114785599
>>114785601
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it's fucking over. stop coping
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>>114785601
Well you can only milk a shitpost for so long, eventually people will get tired of your bullshit.
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Indie avengers treated Kiara better than her fellow genmates did, it all makes sense now!
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>>114785613
Richest rapper on the scene call me Mr lean
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I smell shit in the morning air. Must be ENsharts.
Greetings from Eastern Europe you faggots.
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>>114785634
>Eastern Europe gypsie fucker
Ppft
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>>114785623
Kiara might have been having fun but nobody else was
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>>114785623
>Kiara had fun doing Skyline Serenade
>Both Mint and Phoebe melted down on Twitter afterwards
Why does Kiara always have fun at the expenses of her friends?
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#DonieWasRight
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>>114785684
Mint was depressed because she was stuck in her hotel room sick while everyone was out having fun together going to broadway plays and sightseeing.
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>>114785577
Nimi and Saba (and Dooby's) last collab was on July 20th 2025

Guess what happened 24 hours later!
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5ch speculation on new members based on their handwritten messages

>1st: Handwriting resembles Kakapo Kitashirakawa, Raden’s VTuber friend who went on hiatus in June
>2nd: Speaking style is classic loli-babaa. Looks young but talks like an old fantasy/folkloric hag, think Shinobu Oshino from Monogatari or Power from Chainsaw Man type shit
>3rd: 3 Japanese mistakes so you’d think she was a foreigner, but handwriting is unmistakably Japanese. Probably just an idiot
>4th: English handwriting looks off for a Japanese person, possible overseas origin
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>>114785499
>Operating income: ¥−194.7 billion (2024)
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>>114785789
Berylschizo finally won.
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>>114785789
4th looks a lot like FWMC lol

Holy shit they hired Mofufu
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>>114785789
>>114785816
>4th: English handwriting looks off for a Japanese person, possible overseas origin
>4th looks a lot like FWMC lol
FWMC seething status if a foreigner makes it in a fully fledged hololive (JP) member?
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Fuck. Can the merge save us? It's looking bad.....
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>>114785801
A lot of JP corpos are running on red huh
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>>114785823
the foreigner would still probably be actually japanese
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>>114785848
No , hololive dead tomorrow
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>>114785848
Nigga we all saw the -8% on operating profit and the 70 billion yen buyback
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>>114785823
>>114785864
Reminds me how Kiara was supposed to be part of Nepolabo but was shafted into myth
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>>114785873
Isn't it 40 billion?
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>>114785848
>Sales drop in Q1
it's almost as if their top merch seller went off to do her own studio and sold her own merch and now gets to keep all the profits from her own merch.
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biboo is the only reason I stay, I was starting to not give a fuck about any vtuber thing at all before she showed up
im so glad she's around

goodnight my numberniggers, see you cuntfaggots tomorrow for another day of shitting and screaming
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Reminder that Clara had said that her graduation had nothing to do with phase and that the timing of it would line up with Cover's training for new debuts. She absolutely auditioned, found out that she got accepted, and graduated. She's coming home.
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>>114785902
sorry but she's forever Phased now
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>>114784848
If you're asking who to trust between Kiara and Ina, i will trust Ina's professional word every time. She is more down to earth, and has more work experience as a skilled non-entertainment related professional.
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>>114785902
And then cover axed the EN branch and her debut training went they way of ID4
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>>114785919
>Management is my oshi
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>>114785873
Buyback is a good thing because it signifies that you still enough money to spend on stuffs outside of your business. Even better that this makes your investors happy so they are more likely to invest in your company = more fundings to spend to grow your business
Do you know why Cover doesn't do buyback? Because they don't have money to do so
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>>114785468
>She stays silent
>She gets shit on
>She says anything
>She gets shit on
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>>114785924
She was never going to be a part of EN though. She's debuting as a JP member.
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>>114785823
braindead-chama, its all just hololive now.
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>>114785946
Hololive member *
FTFY. There isn't any JP, EN or ID anymore
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>>114785933
TRUTHNVKE
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>>114785929
so kfp are gonna turn into the new cucklings huh. Perhaps she should graduate too since you fucks are gonna start calling all other talents 'bootlickers' now.
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>Haachama gets the Selen treatment
>/#/ turns on management and Fubuki
>Kiara gets the Selen treatment
>/#/ sucks off management and are okay with Mori and Ina acting like Elira
So /#/ are just hypocrites? You're okay with acting like nijinigs and turning on talents when it suits you?
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Oh shit >>114785966
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Btw Mori Liz cover soon 3 million
It's like the fastest growing song of this year
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>>114785972
>*Sounds of management getting sucked off*
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>>114785453
>another Mori collab
so like.... are the other EN members ever gonna do these cross branch collabs? I'm of course talking about the one's who haven't committed to moving to Japan and have all mysteriously stopped streaming regularly in unison.
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>>114785975
A and K are different so sadly or happily no
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>>114785985
The others aren't management stooges. They didn't join Ina and Mori's black screen stream to where they ran a smear campaign against Kiara.
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Did holo actually hire Clara? That's hilarious
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>>114786003
no they didn't, it's just a phase cope
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Why did they choose a long ass name like Asobimawaritai?
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>>114785984
I rest my case, kfp are the new cucklings. I look forward to you fuckers getting filtered utterly away into forgotten corners of the internet. You really know how to drum up support for your oshi alright.
Incompetent fans are truly the bane of those they support, creating hate for them like this.
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>>114786005
>IDs leeching now that management allows it
Mori supports this
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>>114785902
now that's delulu
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>>114786018
it's actually AsobiMAWARI-TAI but the damn star won't render on this site
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>>114785973
Who sides with Haato? They’re lucky she isn’t getting culled on the spot.
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>>114785973
/#/ is in a precarious position. They clearly hate the merge and want everyone in management gone, tarred, and feathered, but they also hate Kiara because she might have been critical about the merge. VTuber fans are just fickle reactionaries at this point. Unintelligent cattle obsessed with larping, all of them.
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>>114785929
can you photoshop the elira hair and change its color to that of Ina's hair so it doesn't feel out of place?
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>>114786007
Phase hates Clara. She's your problem now.
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>>114786023
Holy shit. Drones are the new nijinigs.
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>>114786018
It's asobi but yeah it basically means let's play so maybe streamer gen?
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>>114786044
why?
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did Kaela not get the merger buff we were promised??
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>>114785601
>>114785940
this schizo-looking girl should join Hololive
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>>114786047
It was supposed to be Devis 3, but there is no more Devis so you know...
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yaaaawn phasecuck deflection from more male collabs and bf yabs
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>>114786047
it should be something like streamer-gamer gen otherwise why would they call themselves tai
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>>114786051
You'll find out about 6 months after she debuts
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>>114785601
>>114785940
>>114786065
she looks like she's inspired by Mito from Nijisanji
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>>114785975
wait wtf..? The rrrats are real?
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>>114786080
so she's either going to be like Kiara 2.0 or FWMC 2.0
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>>114786062
Nobody did, GG mogged the shit out of Fwmc and Mori during JP hours despite the 2 getting the "JP buff"
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>>114786078
They better be good at fighting games
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https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/2097082733847527882
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/2097082733847527882
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/2097082733847527882
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>>114786113
English stream, no JP buff.
>less likes
POV swapping to whoever had the manual by the way
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I liked Clara and MIGAjeets don't deserve human rights
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>>114786046
and kfp are the new liggers. Just gotta get you guys filtered right out, and Hololive will be a better place for it. Just like we filtered the cucklings out after they became liggers brained. your kind aint welcome.
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>>114785873
>we made more money but also invested more
>and dont look at our report!
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>>114786041
Or /vt/ is just /v/ but with anime girls. Full of contrarians doing it for free.
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>>114786125
Wow you guys are worse than nijinigs
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>>114786027
It's okay when IDs do it
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The other think that made Kiara anxious and depressed was discovering that Clara got in
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>>114786133
So this makes you the new Brownfeet, got it.
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>>114786150
both are better than phaseniggers. Absolute bottom of the barrel.
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>>114786160
what is she so afraid of?
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>>114786150
Why is this phasenigger so mindbroken?
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>>114786127
>more people "swapped" to GG despite it being during JP hours
seems like the JP crowd wants to watch GG more than the other 2, yet only Mori stays being the one doing all the JPxEN collabs
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>>114786041
>want everyone in management gone, tarred, and feathered
yes this is what the merge did
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>Kaela is going to collab with Kronii and Raora in a How To Fish collab
>Kaela wants princess treatment whilst they carry her
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why are phaseniggers such massive failures? Is it because phase is such a fucking failure of a corpo too?
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>>114786177
>can't refute
>seems like [seethe]
uh oh meltbrown
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>>114786192
No, their oshis are mad at them for attacking their Hololive Oshis aka. The people who inspired them.
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>GG has more mindshare with the JP crowd than Mori or FWMC
too bad GG doesn't want to move to Japan and will likely walk out with CC
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>Phase Talents intentionally cucking fans because the fans attack Hololive.

I'm not noticing lol.
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>>114786227
>GG has more mindshare with the JP crowd than Mori or FWMC
this is blatantly false, and evidence even suggests otherwise
>will likely walk out with CC
could be true
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>>114786240
Like Zognald Trumpstein before Plappa, chuds cannot win
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>>114786248
Nah the evidence suggest GG mogs both them bootlickers during JP hours >>114786113 so I mean....
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Hololive status?
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>>114786192
They're permanently afflicted with small dog syndrome. nijiniggers thought they were competitive so they got a big head from their gigabots(some still do), but post selen shock for nijiEN, and with nijiJP's massive recline(>50%) to their box in the last 2-3 years, Hololive is the clear winner. phasecucks think they're somehow competing as an underdog when in reality they've been around about as long as the rest of the English vtubers, but the only thing they have to show for it is a convention that didn't sell out and uhh, merch that hasn't shipped for 2 years. Same deal as nijitrash, all 2views and 3views that nobody watches because they suck and their communities are filled with the most dogshit, evil, subhuman turdies imaginable.
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Am I the only one who thinks vtuber apparel is way too costly
Like who in their right mind will spend 200 bucks on a jacket
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>>114786265
not good homos still exist
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>>114786262
GG loses in unique member chatters
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>>114786265
Wonnering. Everyone else lobstered.
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>>114786267
I think that the newer Phase fans are Vshojo refugees.
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There's a nonzero chance saba appears as a guest somewhere.
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>>114786284
Or they're the same browncels that get bolder and bolder every time Hololive does something that offends the Chud Code of Conduct.
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>>114786296
>chance saba appears as a guest somewhere
same chances you winning the lottery
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>>114786211
This.
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>>114786262
How the hell is that proof of JP mindshare when the streams in question you linked started at Euro hours and were ongoing during Euro hours?
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>>114785139
Ah its the girl who absolutely BUTCHERED Pernelle's Hurricanes. Bet ShiftUp regrets that collaboration.
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>>114786190
she is part of global managment so they either obey her or she makes them visit her for "correction"
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>>114786335
This. I would expect high euro viewership for GG via her CC connection.
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>>114786335
He's just mindbroken by Mori and Fwmc and wants to cry
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>>114786284
Impossible, the only people who anti'd Vshojo harder than nijinigs were PhaseJeets
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>>114786348
Especially when all GG is to them is "that yellow Gura clone"
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>>114786355
Well, we know that false flags exist. Also, most Vshojo fans are "anything who beats Hololive is our ally"
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CC is gay..
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I'm a shooter. A drastic Baby.
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>>114786349
I don't even know how his gimmick works, you'd need to have an inlking of appreciation for Anime and Japanese Culture and Music to appreciate Hololive
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>>114786382
not when she's with me
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>>114786410
This is why saying "Who?" to a Seiyuu or well known Jap composer is always a red flag.
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all vtubers are boring that is a fact
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Suisei is not boring
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>>114786355
No, VShojo was the big hope of the indie adjacent corpos. So they'd go to somewhere with the same vibe of "freedom" (read: anti-idol audience).

Also I was jokin before but yeesh, ShiftUp, you lost money on that dawg.
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>>114786410
The gimmick is either
>felt scorned by Mori/Fwmc
>the usual Holoanti subhuman
The end result is the same though.
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>>114785789
All of them are nepohires. Information that should be relevant is:
>Homo nepohire
>Male enabler nepohire
>Niji collaber nepohire
If the Raden acquaintance rrat is real, then that one goes straight to hell.
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The end result is the same: boring shit.
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>>114786441
Apparently the new model is far more receptive to facial muscles.
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>>114786472
Why you in it then?
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>>114786444
Trvke
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>>114786355
I've never seen a nijinigger or phasecuck trash talk vshojo when they still existed. Hell, ennacuck used ironmouse for shitposts for a long time until the implosion happened and then he kind of just disappeared, or changed his style.
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Whats the point of merging the branch
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watching women play video games is entertaining maybe for 1 year but after that it gets stale very fast
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>>114786490
i've been watching pekora for 5 years
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>>114786485
JP gets access to more funds previously reserved for EN and ID branch budgets
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I think it's not that the western vtubers have become bland it's more like the schizos have become too bland
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watching woman haha
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>>114785789
>kakapo

isn't that the same kind of parrot as popo? maybe she'll be friends with gigi
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>>114786497
pekora is one the few ones who can keep it entertaining
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>>114786497
sorry i didnt know it was that hard
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>>114786510
gigi wouldn't leech a new member like this like how hakka tried with holotori
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>>114786482
They change their style, see the attacks with Advent. Their MO is to try to infiltrate the fanbases and kill from within, cause ain't no way they win fair and square, remember this is the time of paid trolls, and clear favoritism by the paparazzi (the dramatubers) to use Hololive for clicks and also subvert their reputation for the purpose of lifting other entities they favor. Its why they try set KFP against Hololive with the merger talks and Kiara's break. Which, I really, really hope none of them are that stupid.
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>>114785789
You know what? The 4th is French
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>>114786482
I still want to believe Ennacuck was Gunrun seething because tallyanon didn't put his vshojo girls on the tally.
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>>114786485
Mori gets all the money previously reserved for the entire EN branch
Why do you think she's spamming JP collabs?
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>>114785823
HoloJP doesn't exist anon
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>everyone is hololive
>CC still can't speak japanese
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Seems phasefags debunked the Clara rrat, keep looking
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We should start /#/ on Sharty
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>>114786543
She liked Kiara's tweet. She's not part of the Mori clique. She's probably on management's shitlist too and her streaming time is being limited.
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Glad hololive is ending soon
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>>114786485
EN management requested it so they could focus on what they really care about, duboi
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>>114786560
I mean I don't have anything against phase people or the Clara girl but that alphabet thing had both a and k different so Idk
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I can't believe /#/ is anti hololive now
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>>114786575
Disgusting this is like watching the homostars
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>>114786510
More like kekapow
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>>114786355
Phase fans anti everyone the hardest, Holo, Niji, Vshojo, random indies, their own company. They're just like that.
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>>114786577
Its weird people say this, because the one thing that is likely to happen if Hololive goes down is a catastrophic disinterest with vtubing, meaning all their indies next words coming out of their mouths are likely to be "do you want paper or plastic?" if they didn't already have solid employment, and a great many just...don't. Worse in this economy.
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Shouldn't you guys be learning Japanese now that HoloEN is dead?
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>>114786589
All it took was one little merge. Amazing. Funny how they never criticized management during any of SNO's graduations
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>32,332: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>26,472: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,651: Pekora (Hololive)
>19,606: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,467: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>12,715: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,155: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>11,987: Ina (Hololive)
>11,986: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,349: Mana (Nijisanji)
>10,969: Towa (Hololive)
>10,168: Cecilia (Hololive)

Gold for Kanae with SurgeTOWN, with Subaru getting silver with 7DTD and Pekora, bronze
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>>114786605
And they never anti male vtuber.
Weird uh?
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>>114786523
Are they really that powerful?
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>>114786620
Wow Kuzuha is really dead
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>>114786523
Also notably the case with Justice due to their debut's proximity to Selen shock, a small amount of nijiniggers that dropped nijiEN tried to latch onto them and it's apparent what ones are ex-nijiniggers from their posts shitting on any Holo that wasn't outright against the "merger".
ex-niji, still niggers.
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All holos are a danger to themselves.
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>>114786612
I'll give you the same advice I give beggars. If you have the time to troll and lecture others, watch your supposed oshis.
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Feeling proud to see and support "women," hahaha.
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>>114786655
How drunk?
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>>114786626
Nigger did you not see them harass Pippa into dropping that racefag collab? Theyre currently having a meltdown over Lia interacting with a homo. They hate male vtubers too. They hate everyone.
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>>114786620
miko getting blown out again?
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>merger buff
LMAO, that's not how it work. In fact it could be the opposite because there is now a larger pool for discovery. EN will get less spill from other EN
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>>114786654
My advice will be stop watching vtubers and fine another hobby
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>>114786655
What's Sam even up to these days
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>>114786589
>>114786617
Why do SNOfags blatantly lie?
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>>114786667
They shit on Pippa, not the male VTuber
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>>114786676
It's true though. Your existence lies within the former corporate structure of HoloEN. Now that's gone after the merge, giving you the green light to be a Holoanti. You followed the path of a classic cattle.
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>>114786642
2225 knows whats up. You can even save it to make cheap fried rice. You wanna save food, you do it right. Bananas getting extra ripe? There is a wonderful recipe for banana cream pie cookies. Inexpensive, and easy to make.
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>>114786690
>giving you the green light to be a Holoanti
All you nigger
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>>114786690
glad to be a holoanti vtubing was a mistake
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>>114786672
Your "hobby" is hoping you depress some dozen people from supporting a vtuber group. Ain't nothing sadder than that.
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Phasecucks found a shitpost spam to deflect from their 4 yabs on a single week, huh?

This won't heal Pippa's butthole, though.
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>>114786699
You know I'm right. I've never seen this thread be blatantly anti-Hololive up until the merger. Like I said, the /#/cattles' existential affairs lay entirely in the corporate HoloEN structure. And the merge killed just that. So now, like a good slave, you're now a sentient anti, when you failed to do so for any of SNO because it was putting you in a position of vicarious power, now gone and leaving you with the easy answers on how to deal with losing it.
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>>114786589
because Neoholo is Niji2:
>Mekshart is just VTA reloaded
>Mori as the Elira of Neoholo gets all the opps
>Shitters are left to their own devices, no budget, no projects, no support

expect shitty acrylic stands with default art for the low performers soon
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I have a confession to make. I haven't watched any vtuber for over a year. I just regurgitate shit I saw on /vt/ with my own take
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>>114786638
Well, lets not mince words, we've had infiltrators even as far back as Myth. Its just hard to be rid of them once they're allowed to mingle in. Only reason not to get riled is that it makes the girls uncomfortable.
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>>114786699
Clearly not. This hobby is losing its core support, which is this website. When that goes, so does everything else.
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>>114786719
So true, my brother we have to support our oshis unconditionally, giving it our all.
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>>114786751
Kek
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>Please reply to my comments, I've been blatantly samefagging you know
nyo, fry your neurons alone
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Lmao what is this bitch doing

https://x.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/2098688550183297131
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>>114786730
I know you're a retard, projecting your own hatred onto others to justify being a subhuman online. I guarantee you're one of the fags that called every other HoloEN a bootlicker and worse when Fauna announced her graduation, the same as you're doing right now and samefagging a billion times a day.
You just feel scorned because your unit oshi left and most people didn't agree with their fans' meltdowns or cared that much because 2/3 of them hardly streamed. And ironically Mumei's departure was felt the most by other ENs because she was the most likeable of that group.
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>Chat asks Reine what which fire emblem characters she likes
>List a bunch of female ones
>Goes on a rant that liking edelgard even though she's evil is valid because she's hot
>Someone asks her thoughts on a male character
>Reine bluntly:" I don't care he wasn't on my radar"
Is Reine like gay or something?
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>pretending /vt/ didn't turn Holoanti after most Holofans moved to Towa.

Wow, they're really PPMbegging now
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>>114786732
>>114786726
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>>114786781
dont forget to say phasecuck
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>>114786751
trvke
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>>114786667
They are generally fine if it is a one-off, but Pippa/Racefag and Lia/Homos have a history of repeated meetups and interactions behind them.
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>>114786620
lmao pigwhora sub 20k
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>>114786779
getting paid?
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>>114786799
Every vtuber has interacted with males, retard
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>>114786732
>Shitters are left to their own devices
If it works for the Homos then the Girls will thrive.
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>>114786781
> know you're a retard, projecting your own hatred onto others to justify being a subhuman online
Ironic much? Look at where you are anon.
>I guarantee you're one of the fags that called every other HoloEN a bootlicker and worse when Fauna announced her graduation, the same as you're doing right now and samefagging a billion times a day.
I only asked for management to do a fucking better job though. It's you who attacked Fauna endlessly and still do to this day.
>You just feel scorned because your unit oshi left and most people didn't agree with their fans' meltdowns or cared that much because 2/3 of them hardly streamed
Neither of the three were my oshis. Try again.
>And ironically Mumei's departure was felt the most by other ENs because she was the most likeable of that group.
What a damn shame the other ENs' fanbase repay Mumei and ex-Hoomans with nothing but scorn. The damned French will pay.
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>>114786667
>Theyre currently having a meltdown over Lia interacting with a homo
QRD?
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>>114786779
>>114786809
sellout
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>>114786792
Didn't the PPM make notable gains this summer?
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>>114786793
unfortunatly not Anon.
I would love to be a phasekek tho, at least they stream.
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if a woman interact with homo then ernoul will react
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>>114786831
>Ironic much? Look at where you are anon.
Again, that's your behavior
>It's you who attacked Fauna endlessly and still do to this day
Nope.
>Neither of the three were my oshis. Try again.
Mhm
>What a damn shame the other ENs' fanbase repay Mumei and ex-Hoomans with nothing but scorn. The damned French will pay.
Paranoid schizophrenia
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Vtubers ruined my life.
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>>114786792
If /vt/ are holoantis then why is this thread relentlessly defending Mori's management bootlicking and Kiara getting Selen'd
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>>114786799
>They are generally fine if it is a one-off
Nobody really means that. Especially because its pretty transparent most male vtubers see any opportunity for setting up with a female vtuber of any size as the opportunity to flirt, leech, get the panty drawers, then move to the next target once fallout has occured. In that order. Everyone knows it. It just causes more problems than it solves to voice it.
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>>114786854
phasecuck, phasecuck, phasecuck, phasecuck
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>>114786862
first step is recognizing what is wrong with you, second step is trying to fix what's wrong and to start you need to leave here first
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>>114786865
Well, feminized Mori is a thread darling
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>>114786861
>Again, that's your behavior
Because /vt/ does not deserve to exist, enough said.
You have no arguments for the other three points. So ergo I am correct.
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>>114786868
>Especially because its pretty transparent most male vtubers see any opportunity for setting up with a female vtuber of any size as the opportunity to flirt, leech, get the panty drawers, then move to the next target once fallout has occured. In that order. Everyone knows it.
Umm that's sexist, chud. Females are the REAL sex pests!
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>>114786589
Your fellow raiders or retardlarpers don't turn /#/ into hololive anti
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>>114786865
Because the Jekyll and Hyde contrarian nature of /vt/ mirrors that of /v/, they exist as both Holoantis as well as bootlickers. Are you this new to 4chan or something?
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>>114786879
why are gender roles in vtubing flipped? why do women in vtubing hold more power over men
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>>114786879
>meninism in 2014+12
+1 for the CuckReviews and RevSaysILoveBBC camp
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>>114786879
Male vtuber are disgusting
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woman having rights ahaha
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>>114786869
>phasecuck, phasecuck, phasecuck, phasecuck
Again after HoloEN is finished now I suppose I need to become a ligger....
Cuck is probably right tho.
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>>114786902
"TAKE YOUR DAMN CLOTHES OFF!"
-Mark Thresher
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I miss wawa
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>>114786879
Whoo boy, that guy was mad. But its so obvious you're not there to foster a career, you want to clap some cute nerd girl cheeks while making cash on the sly. One of the big reasons its so obvious is the vitriol seen with the rest of the fanbase, especially if they see they got an in. Humility out the door, they RP the NTR dude in the ero doujin in a heartbeat.
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>>114786899
>>114786902
The two genders
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i hate wawa
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>>114786877
>Because /vt/ does not deserve to exist
True. Post hack, this was a Hololive board and now it's mostly not. Coupled with jannies deliberately being told to not moderate, the sooner this site dies, the better.
>You have no arguments
I don't "attack Fauna endlessly", I've only shit on naplings that attacked Holos when she announced her graduation. Those naplings still do that endlessly by the way.
>Neither were my oshis
You wouldn't be decrying SNO's "treatment" every time something like this happens otherwise. Stop the cap.
And the last claim you made about people attacking Mumei and Hoomans is indeed paranoid schizophrenia.
You have no arguments. You just cry "EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET MEEEEEEEE" after flinging shit at others for the last 2+ years, every day, all day. Now, even those who were initially receptive of your complaints have grown tired of the increasing levels of hysteria and dramatization you belch out. Your oshi moved on, it's time for you to do the same instead of acting like a crazed, obsessive ex-girlfriend.
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>>114786939
>>114786931
I neutral wawa
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>>114786879
>You are inherently disgusting and predatory for existing, and you can only blame yourself
This but unironically
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>>114786879
so angry
kek
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Holostars are fucking your oshi
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>>114786981
Yeah this represents the average schizo grem here
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>>114786940
There was actually a lot of influx of (njji) sisters when nyfco shut down, but it was masked by the holofans still around.
Then they left for towa, leaving us way less pro-holo
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>>114786940
>Those naplings still do that endlessly by the way.
Are these Naplings in the room with us? Have they been in the room with us since last year?
>You wouldn't be decrying SNO's "treatment" every time something like this happens otherwise. Stop the cap.
Asking management to be better when preventable graduations occurred, isn't necessarily decrying treatment, it's an open-ended request for management to do fucking better, something someone like you either cannot comprehend, or deliberately refuse to comprehend because you live vicariously through the old HoloEN corporate structure.
>You have no arguments. You just cry "EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET MEEEEEEEE" after flinging shit at others for the last 2+ years, every day, all day.
All because I asked for management to do better years before you did. Now I'm here to call you out until you get it.
>Now, even those who were initially receptive of your complaints have grown tired of the increasing levels of hysteria and dramatization you belch out
Because fighting nonexistent "Naplings" makes you the sane one in the room. Hilarious.
>Your oshi moved on, it's time for you to do the same instead of acting like a crazed, obsessive ex-girlfriend.
Or I just want management to DO A BETTER JOB so that there aren't any more preventable graduations. To you, that is not only an attack on Cover, but yourself, since you've lived vicariously through it. Who are you, Helmir?
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>>114786879
they big mad
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>>114786975
HOLY
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>>114786975
Nekaishi is either trans or ugly. Maybe even a James Gandolfini look-alike.
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>>114786981
I can work with that.
Booty goes binted, if you know what I mean.
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>>114786980
If they were, they wouldn't be crying about women not supporting them, or more embarassingly, having to get ideas from the supposed girls to try to get women to support them like a charity case. Pretend to be gangsta, but your residency is at the Weenie Hut Jr. I'm more wondering how they ever get any female vtuber to talk to them, given the low, LOW female percentages and the constant, chip on the shoulder begging. Does the Matou Shinji type stir maternal instinct or something?
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>Cuckling trying to drag Shachi into it.

There have been Multiple attempts in this board to get Hololive fans to shit on Mumei and they have all failed.

Also what is this obsession over "Civil War"?
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>>114787006
>RaidaZERO Cat Vtuber
>Shit like this is why I stopped wanting to be a vtuber btw
I didn’t think I could hate vtweeters any more but here we go
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>>114787061
Hope you realize this, but Nimi and Shachi are in fact friends, and no, it was not just a phase.
It doesn't matter either way. The cattle treat all ex-Holos like trash.
>Also what is this obsession over "Civil War"?
Forced meme by Donie Sharto
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Oni? Gaijin? Gen song on launch
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>>114787070
Another thing that Mori was vindicated over.
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>>114786577
we basically witnessing the fall of Rome in real time
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>>114786999
>Are these Naplings in the room with us? Have they been in the room with us since last year?
Yes redditor, he's even complained about getting banned on towa for posting exactly like you do on towa /uuu/. Still shits on Holos like he did as a sapling, now napling.
>Asking management to be better when preventable graduations occurred
>Gura
Not preventable, she's still doing nothing as Saba. She is a flake and has little drive. Shitposts about Cover "burning her out" aren't valid, many ENs have suffered worse setbacks than she did.
>Fauna
Not preventable, she wanted to get married and have kids and that wasn't compatible with remaining in Hololive(at least how she wanted to go about it, and also considering what was found out it was never, ever going to end well)
>Mumei
Not preventable, she wanted to be a marine biologist and didn't see Hololive as a longtime career.
Also you're being disingenuous by pretending like Holo fans haven't been bitching about Cover's retardation for years. The reaction to the "merger" was mostly negative until Ina's recent stream.
>corporate structure
Try to be less obvious avengersfag, it's no surprise you're being disingenuous though.
>All because I asked for management to do better years before you did
Nope, see above.
>Because fighting nonexistent "Naplings"
Nope, see above.
>Or I just want management to DO A BETTER JOB so that there aren't any more preventable graduations.
SNO leaving wasn't preventable.
>To you, that is not only an attack on Cover, but yourself
More schizophrenia, I don't give a fuck if people shit on Cover. I've complained about them for longer than you've been watching Hololive, nigger.
>helmir
And there's the accusation of being your rapist. You have nothing left, you can go back to your Holoanti loops now.
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>branch merges
>Mori Immediately spams JP streams during JP prime time
Damn she really is a management pawn now. No wonder she Selen'd Kiara.
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>>114787103
>that Essie girl now on this
Every, single, time. They can't buy an ad, but they'll use any Holopull they can get to hope someone, anyone, becomes their Great White Hope, to bring down Hololive. Its pathetic.
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>>114786609
I mean it when I say Hololive are the only true VTubers.
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I dare you faggots to name a single thing that feels different post merge if you don't give a shit about Kiara
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>>114787141
Post merge something different I've noticed is that Kaela has gotten cuter.
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>>114787141
>I'm acting like a nijinig but that's okay because I'm a hypocrite and Kiara deserves the selen treatment
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>>114787117
t. dumb Helmir, keep with the times, Shachi is already coming back as a vtuber
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kiara isn't selen she's not a fat chink
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>>114787165
Not your rapist.
I was told she would never do that. So she lied then?
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>>114787141
They just want to use Kiara as a stepping stone, they'd be and most definitely have in the past insulting her with dox and other assorted shit. Its funny, they tried last thread to project Nerissa as just using Kiara, when that Serenade concert or whatever was the perfect example of doing just that. My only hope is that its the same Holoanti bluster and no one genuinely falls for that shit.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FweMA5sV3pg
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>>114787180
She never said she wouldn't do any vtubing ever again, it was corpobootlicker cope trying to pretend Cover wasn't at fault for chasing her out
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>>114787117
>Yes redditor, he's even complained about getting banned on towa for posting exactly like you do on towa /uuu/. Still shits on Holos like he did as a sapling, now napling.
Sorry but I've never seen any wild Naplings here. That's just your imagination until you provide substantial proof.
>Not preventable, she's still doing nothing as Saba. She is a flake and has little drive. Shitposts about Cover "burning her out" aren't valid, many ENs have suffered worse setbacks than she did.
She could have stayed and no one would have bat an eye if she carried on, outside maybe you obsessed catalog chimps. Clearly something happened that she didn't like. Next!
>Not preventable, she wanted to get married and have kids and that wasn't compatible with remaining in Hololive(at least how she wanted to go about it, and also considering what was found out it was never, ever going to end well)
All speculation when several Holos are married with children (not telling you who) and have not been harassed to death and doxxed over it like you have to Nimi. Fauna even stated her reasons for graduation in her video, which means something must have happened for her to leave. Next!
>Not preventable, she wanted to be a marine biologist and didn't see Hololive as a longtime career.
How exactly do you know that? When did she say that she did not see Hololive as a longtime career?
>Also you're being disingenuous by pretending like Holo fans haven't been bitching about Cover's retardation for years
Yes, but not as ever fucking performative like this
>The reaction to the "merger" was mostly negative until Ina's recent stream.
Actually I'd say Ina's thoughts made matters worse for the EN purists. As you can see, there's a lot more regret in getting into the hobby than ever before.
>Try to be less obvious avengersfag, it's no surprise you're being disingenuous though.
No one's not disingenuous when they're on opposing sides. You don't get to play middle ground here at all.
>SNO leaving wasn't preventable.
2/3 were preventable. Assuming you are correct on Mumei.
>I don't give a fuck if people shit on Cover
I welcome it every time something preventable happens happens.
>I've complained about them for longer than you've been watching Hololive, nigger.
3 years isn't a long time, Junior.
>And there's the accusation of being your rapist. You have nothing left, you can go back to your Holoanti loops now.
Come on anon, I was joking right there.
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>>114787200
>chasing her out
>helped fund her college education and kept on the payroll with multiple months long hiatuses
Anon, most companies would never do that for you. Even if you're the star worker. Thats more breaks than executives get.
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selengrem hours
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>>114787233
you sound obsessed
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phase gold today
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wtf is a selengrem
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As I said, there's been a constant campaign to get hololive fans to hate Shachi/Mumei.

It doesn't matter. They will always be remembered for how they left and you avengerfags can't do anything about it.
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>>114787244
Why even bother when he's making stuff up about the reasons why Mumei actually graduated?
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>>114787244
It's just deadbeats shilling for management
They're already running a smear campaign against Kiara now she's getting Selen'd too
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>>114787244
>They will always be remembered for how they left and you avengerfags can't do anything about it.
All under the guise of revisionist history, courtesy of the cattle
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Why are morifags turning on everyone who isn't a management stooge?
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>>114786642
oh god lamy is retarded...
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>>114787244
Whomei?
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>>114787253
That's impossible... because >>114787244(me) I'm a deadbeat.
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>>114787244
I ain't in with this whole avengers thing, nor do I think people should hate her. She used the opportunity she got, funded her education, and is trying to survive as a person doing contract work. I sympathize with how this current economy is, especially if she has a very ill pet too. The whole avengers thing can go fuck itself. But the truth is the truth, there is no need to hate on her for it though. Shits tough. Not much being done by the market in this generation to relieve people needing to scratch for any way to get ahead.
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>>114787244
The "constant campaign" is done by the cattle themselves. Particularly the ones that fight invisible Naplings and the French Kronie.
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>>114787296
Nail on the head anon.
World economy is a mess, always puzzles me how this thread/board is just completely unaware of the problems that lie today. Maybe because they're MIGAjeets.
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stfu grimmi!
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>>114787306
With all the falseflagging I see in this board, I don't see any real fans doing shit to her.

Mumei hasn't really done anything to warrant action.
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>>114787332
man just imagine what she would've been like in Justice...
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>>114787060
>Pretend to be gangsta, but your residency is at the Weenie Hut Jr.
KEK
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Holo CN will save hololive
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>>114786620
Pink leech was too busy with U-san once again?
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>>114787336
There is no falseflagging. A year and a half of ironic shitposting done by "Napling"-obsessed faggots convinced the cattle that because Shachi is friends with Niimi, Mumei's career is negligible just as Fauna's was. And that's mainly from the French Kronie who is ungrateful to two of his oshi's former genmates, as the e-celeb worshipping cattle just follow their leader like the dumb slaves they are.
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>>114787214
>She could have stayed and no one would have bat an eye if she carried on, outside maybe you obsessed catalog chimps. Clearly something happened that she didn't like
That doesn't mean her reason for leaving is more valid than the others' reason for staying. You've been mindbroken by, or groomed by shitposters into thinking she was abused when it's apparent from her activities outside of Holo that she was most likely the source of her own problems. The only valid criticism she's ever bothered to give were Jap mixers fucking with her songs. If that's the worst thing she had to deal with it's pretty tame in comparison to Holos that have toughed out far more adversity than not being able to tell an audio team to do what you want.
>All speculation when several Holos are married with children (not telling you who) and have not been harassed to death and doxxed over it like you have to Nimi
I don't do any of that, you're genuinely schizophrenic. There's also a stark difference in how post Holo, Nimi treats vtubing much more like generic indie trash while any of the ones you're hinting at keep a complete separation between real life and virtual.
>Fauna even stated her reasons for graduation in her video, which means something must have happened for her to leave
Same as above, source of her own problems.
>Actually I'd say Ina's thoughts made matters worse for the EN purists. As you can see, there's a lot more regret in getting into the hobby than ever before.
>"As you can see, my fellow threadshitters are the true Holo fans."
Nope.
>No one's not disingenuous when they're on opposing sides. You don't get to play middle ground here at all.
Actual midwit take, no wonder you argue like a scorned woman.
>2/3 were preventable
Nope, you can't contest anything I said and just have a nebulous cope of "something happened!" When the most likely explanation when seeing their behavior post-Holo is that they were either the source of their own problems, didn't want to pursue Hololive as a longtime career, or wanted to do something incompatible with staying in Hololive.
>3 years
Try over 7
>I was joking
Mhm
Next!
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>>114787359
kek
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>anons slugging huge walls of text at each other
LMAO
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>>114787361
> A year and a half of ironic shitposting done by "Napling"-obsessed faggots .
Maybe if Saplings didn't act like their oshi is the best thing since sliced bread, she wouldn't be in that position.

also:
>Naplings aren't dragging Shachi, it's the Kronies and the "bootlickers"

Is something a Napling would say. Like I said, Mumei's exit was visibly the most amicable of the three, I'd argue that it's also more Amicable than Ame's despite the Latter being an affiliate.
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>>114787358
is it really happening though? seems just like a shitpost narrative to me
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>>114787200
Over a year of stating she wouldn't use a model for streams and now she's been convinced by her "friends" to betray that. I'm sure it definitely wasn't the avengers group that fell for a failed poaching attempt from vshojo(rest in piss).
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did miko lose?
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miko is loose*
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>>114787404
It's more indicative of the real situation: SHACHI IS A DOORMAT. That's the real issue.

I'm sure that if she got closer to Mori/IRyS or FWMC, she wouldn't give up being Mumei easily.
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>>114787233
hi selenfag
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Uh oh, the PekoMiko schizo is samefagging again. The mental asylum guard let him use a smartphone after he drained his balls and polished his dick 3 times under the desk. Kek.
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>>114787336
Wow... It's almost as if there aren't actual fans of Holo's or ex-Holo's left in this irredeemable shithole, like it's just a handful of subhumans larping hoping to find something funny enough to copy to their Twitter account.
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tonight's dogshit wrassling main event
10-6 Nijisanji victory
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>>114787244
>constant campaign
this thread is not real nor relevant enough to do anything
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>>114787332
It is funny how we live in a day and age people can't just honestly take the L and backtrack stupid remarks. They just take the diaper donnie stance of pretending your mistake doesn't exist.
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>>114786642
>Leave the home cooker at "Keep Warm" for 3 days
That's how you know Holos are rich
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>>114787440
I kneel
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>>114787370
>The only valid criticism she's ever bothered to give were Jap mixers fucking with her songs.
I mean yeah I'd be very pissed if Full Color never got a proper release and if it took what, a little over a year to get that settled, could that have been the last straw, not the rest of your speculation? All preventable.
>Nimi treats vtubing much more like generic indie trash while any of the ones you're hinting at keep a complete separation between real life and virtual.
"Indie trash" also happens to include Shigure Ui, a very successful and well-respected person in the medium and artist of Subaru. How dare you call what she is trash. This is how I know you're a poser.
>Nope, you can't contest anything I said and just have a nebulous cope of "something happened!"
There's last straws, and in Gura's case, perhaps I could have spelt it out for you.
> When the most likely explanation when seeing their behavior post-Holo is that they were either the source of their own problems, didn't want to pursue Hololive as a longtime career, or wanted to do something incompatible with staying in Hololive
Well your opinions are not facts. And there had to have been some thing that ultimately caused the graduation, not "outside influences" unrelated to the job like you clamor for.
>Try over 7
With how you said all indies are trash despite it making up the overwhelming majority of the VTuber atmosphere and combined success, I'd say you've been following Hololive since Advent debuted, since it's clear you know absolutely nothing about this medium at all, and live off /vt/'s confirmation biases as your facts.
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Is Mori disqualified from the cripple tally now that she's primarily Japenese speaking vtuber?
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>>114787359
but enough about pigwhora the actual fat pig, taro's personal cocksucking whore lol
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>>114787440
HoloEN's fans are moving over to NijiEN, leading to all their numbers gong up so it makes sense that Phase can't match them any longer
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why the bibleposting?
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>>114787480
lmao now that's actually true, bitch had to suck managements cocks for preferential treatment
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>>114787472
Same requirement: at least 10% chat message are in English and she qualifies as EN VTuber
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>>114787486
schizos take themselves very seriously
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>>114787411
pigwhora is loose*
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I feel like there's an influx of hololive reaction videos lately. Just random youtubers reacting to holo music.
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>>114787446
Despite /#/s screeching otherwise, this isn't the most influential thread. It frankly, never was.
Any attempt of anyone here to try to convince people otherwise is simply delusional.
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Miko is winning
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>>114787521
The black guys and people who talk about Star Wars?
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>>114787521
Holodori plus the fact there has been a assload of music put out over the last year.
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I got the 2 cc ones in my recs
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#whereiskiara
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>>114787528
They're influential but for the wrong reasons, i.e. flooding the 5th Fes promo video with coordinated spam when no one had to talk about a certain matter.
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So we hate Kiara now?
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https://x.com/search?q=%23whereiskiara&src=typed_query&f=live
Must be fun to force a meme when your only friends are 3 random foids
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>>114787480
KWAUFPLB!
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>>114787557
4 random foids but still
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>>114787557
Hololive fans are vocal about Kiara getting Selen'd and they are not happy. They're discontented with Mori ignoring how Kiara got stealth fired and all of en ignoring the #whereiskiara movement. I guess they were holding out hope for Kiara coming back. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have Kiara come back. Obviously that won't happen, but it shows how unhappy they are
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>>114786892
>why do women in vtubing hold more power over men
this just shows me if women were in power irl they'd be acting like how men act. It all comes down to power in the end
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>>114787431
Bros... is this place only antis now?
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>>114787583
slow anon...
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>>114787484
>HoloEN's fans are moving over to NijiEN
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SHE KNEELS
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>>114787350
The tumor would've taken her by now in that timeline
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>>114787578
is this an ai post?
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>>114787546
They have pretty voices, very 2010's Kpop vibes.
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>>114787506
https://youtu.be/3Kycs5b68io
by the way puruaki was one pigwhora's male eceleb ex-bfs, here's a video of then flirting with each other
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>>114787614
lmao newfag
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>>114787578
>signees: nicole moore,
esquizofréMIK, ƇΔƳΔ , and YA
Move aside Indie Avengers, meet the Xitter Foids behind the biggest mystery in Hololive History
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>>114787610
>Neither responded to Kiara's hiatus announcement
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>>114787629
not everything revolves around your whore faggot
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>>114787614
>>114787627
Newfags
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>>114787641
Holodrones make nijinigs look sane
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Ririka is the runt of ReGloss. Raden and hajime crossed over to mainstream with memes. Kanade is big in the hololive fandom with the stupid Monday thing
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>>114787646
Forcing a meme the way you are still won't change your movement from 5 to 50000, Donie
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>>114787661
shes for the homos and their beggars
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>>114787661
She chose the side of the Mori/stars management bootlicker clique instead of Kiara's
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>>114787661
why are you so angry?
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Numbers?
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>>114787661
Ririka is my wife so it's fine.
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Why SelenStarmin is melting down?
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>>114787696
thanks for the info pagpag but nobody cares
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>>114787708
they are still upset that the Kiara=selen thing failed to take off
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>>114786575
cute
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>>114787696
This NijiEN is streaming during JP hours, I guess she hate her EN fans (like Meloco)
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>>114786832
Lia revealed on stream to her phase fans that she had a dinner date with Flayon
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>>114787711
I don't know why they think Holo are like Elira when she tried to kill one of her coworkers (Selen).
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>>114786751
>which is this website
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>>114787546
Riona has got to be so fucking happy.
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>>114787583
>now
Anon... This thread has always been an anti thread. Now, it gets to be a general anti thread for everyone as well as a thread for general vtuber drama!
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>>114787732
Because Mori is le grim reaper get it??? DAE she has the power to kill others because she's Death herself??? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD MORI KILLED KIARA XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>114787610
who wouldn't
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>>114787770
Mori killed Octavio's mom...
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>>114787724
Yeesh, for God's sake ladies, get some fucking taste. And self-respect. Its still funny how despite this, they don't like these guys as entertainers. They could be swimming in leagues of /lig/ cootch, but the cold hard truth is they're still absolutely not seeing those same ladies watching their music, or their streams.
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>>114787770
>>114787732
Also, Elira did it because despite being the Management favorite, Selen was mogging her.

Both Ina and Mori have no motive.
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>>114787661
She might be the runt but she's infinitely more entertaining than your average cumrag, ENshart.
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Oof... RIP /#/!
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>>114787811
what about taking a weighted average over all these metrics
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>>114787463
>not the rest of your speculation? All preventable
What exactly was preventable? She ghosted her colleagues, didn't stand up for herself, rarely streamed, and gave up most likely of her own volition. She has a pattern of doing this in her other personas.
>Shigure Ui
Weird deflection, clearly we're talking about EN Vtubers here. I doubt you've even watched a minute of Subaru's streams either.
>There's last straws, and in Gura's case, perhaps I could have spelt it out for you.
Do detail how the woman known for being spotty and flaking out for years, both before, during, and after her Holo career was not at fault for anything and only the big bad corporation is to blame for her circumstances. Especially now that said corporation hasn't had any influence on her activities for over a year outside of maybe an NDA.
>Well your opinions are not facts
Nothing you've stated is a fact. This is all speculation, and I have a much better case built by observing the actions of the women you're bringing up and comparing them to their former coworkers' and her new contemporaries.
>And there had to have been some thing that ultimately caused the graduation, not "outside influences"
You've lost the plot. And outside influences are some of the most common causes for graduations anyway, newfagchama.
>With how you said all indies are trash
Not what I stated, try being less disingenuous next time.
>despite it making up the overwhelming majority of the VTuber atmosphere
This means nothing. There's an endless sea of garbage content not worth consuming, and that's what most indies and other content creators, authors, artists, novelists, etc. are-- not good.
>and combined success
lmao. Indie VTubers haven't mattered since 2018, it's apparent you're an EN only that started with Myth. Stop posting.
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>>114786751
>Clearly not. This hobby is losing its core support, which is this website. When that goes, so does everything else.
>This website
>core support
For. Fucking. Who. anon?
A handful of desperate 2views? PhaseConnect talents?
This place was losing relevance pre-hack. Post hack this place is little better than somewhere for Twitter schizos to post bait that they can repost to Twitter
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>>114787484
Holo fans don't watch niji, what you're seeing is meloco pandering to the veeery small percentage of nijiJP's audience that she leeched for 2+ years to build. And she's still losing to superchat reading streams.
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>>114787811
If this is trying to salvage the last of the star's dignity, it does a bad job of it. CCV, fan presence, views, subs, begging for cash from both talents and fans telling the girls to share the money with them, their own fans licking each other's wounds in videos saying you can be a fan and not watch videos or buy merch, tweeting only is somehow okay. Its cope of the highest level.
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>>114787795
Crazy whore
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>>114787811
if every single metrics are bad then maybe, just maybe you are bad, where there's smoke there's fire and stuffs
have they ever thought of that before?
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>>114787864
How did you get homos from that post? Was cockanon right all along?
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>>114787885
>>114787864
where did you read from this image that this is a defense of homostars
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>>114787795
It wasn't just Elira that was jealous
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>>114787855
Other NijiEN also won their matchups, though
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>>114787898
where did you read from my post that this is about homostars
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>>114787907
misquoted you
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Explain why Mori selening Kiara is justified without sounding like a nijinig?
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>>114787918
your premise is already wrong so there is nothing to argue about
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>>114787918
She isn't. There, I did it.
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Foursome with the hags.
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>>114787532
Yeah the 3d shorts has been a bit on the main channel
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>>114787898
If you want the source
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1w8kr1t/nine_nine_direct_scheduled_discussion_thread/
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>>114787484
>HoloEN's fans are moving over to NijiEN
Someone give this monkey a banana, cause this is the funniest post I've seen in this cesspit for weeks!
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>>114787811
Yeah that just means you need to sell more merch but if you have to sell more merch you need to attract pay pigs and how do you attract pay pigs?
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>>114787941
so it's just a reply to why Gigi is so unpopular wrt subscribers?
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>>114787972
Ah then that was my mistake, I am mam enough to take it back. Sounds just like beggars though.
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And here we fucking go the nijification of hololive has begun
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>>114787811
>watch hours
>basically useless if you don't divide by hours streamed
So... CCV? Because most of the sites like vstats and others aren't actually pulling detailed, active watchtime stats per user. That's something generally only available to the content creator. It's just CCV Avg x hours streamed.
He also forgot that inflating watch hours is the goal of botting for most of the serial botters. Some NEET 2view that can stream 12 hours a day could bot themselves to 10k, now suddenly they're "competing" with the top of the industry. This is the niji, phase, twitch, and kick strat.
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>>114787995
Explain
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Looking back in hindsight I think ex holos won
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>>114787918
it's ok when Hololive does it
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>>114788014
It's okay when Hololive does it
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>>114788018
Yup they're all happily engaged and having mind blowing sex everyday with their boyfriends while the wholo girls are stressed out and wasting their youth twerking for neckbeard chuds
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Go woke, get broke
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>>114786751
>which is this website
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>>114788000
Does CCV even earn much money?
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>>114787905
It's really not by enough for it to really matter, they're basically all 3views anyway.
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Holonigger lost
Phase won
Nijien won
Indie won
Vspo won
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>>114788018
Specifically the JP ones.
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>>114786840
no? just during the merge annoucement
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>>114787995
elaborate?
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>>114788043
Iofi...
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https://youtu.be/w669NEAkl5s
https://youtu.be/w669NEAkl5s
https://youtu.be/w669NEAkl5s
Chamingo
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>>114788032
HOLOTROON IS REAL KEKAROOO
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>>114787103
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In case people didn't watch Shiori's member stream, she said her outfit will take a while
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>>114788075
>Poojeet family within the first 15 seconds of the video
Nihon has fallen...
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>>114788014
>>114788056
I guess almost all niji unit have their own social media account and YouTube channel to track how good they are doing. It's something nijisanji has done to make fans of units stay close to said talent as a group in whole.

I wonder if advent and justice had a group channel and SNS account whether en would have more retention
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>>114788088
Don't worry it won't take as long as the Justice outfits
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>>114787972
is this from the homosub? cus he would know already that she's not the lowest, since a long time ago in fact
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>>114788109
see >>114787941
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>>114788045
>squeals the monkey into the empty halls of /vt/
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>>114788100
Are you retarded?
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>>114788111
oh ok that's the ligfags sub, no wonder he doesnt know shit
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KINO
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>>114788075
>>114788093
bald nigga too
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>>114788129
>got shit numbers yesterday
>MARINE MARINE TASUKETE TASUKETE I NEED TO LEECH LET ME LEECH LET ME LEECH TASUKETE
kek this ALWAYS happens
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>>114788129
>Mori & GG but japanese
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>>114788153
Calm down 35piss
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>>114788088
So merge change nothing
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>>114788169
change nothing except that holoEN and holoID and dev_IS no longer exist formally
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>>114788169
It changes nothing for advent and Mori
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>>114788167
lol cuckfaggy pigwhora never beating the leeching whore allegations
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Oh? Sakuna's new outfit also looks like school uniform?
she really looks like Aqua now
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More clip numbers.
(HL, NJ, VS)
Split is 367.6M(+700k), 316.5M(+29.5M), 150.7M(+4.0M)
Recent is 153.9M(+4.3M), 129.2M(+25.0M), 61.2M(-9.8M)
JA Split is 294.2M(+940k), 310.4M(+28.6M), 147.6M(+4.3M)
EN Split is 50.0M(+640k), 4.9M(+920k), 1.2M(-330k)
Regular Split is 138.0M(-5.3M), 80.6M(+850k), 23.8M(-2.0M)
Shorts Split is 229.6M(+6.0M), 235.9M(+28.7M), 126.8M(+5.9M)
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>>114788222
Graph.
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>>114788222
More clip numbers, filtering out JA.
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>>114788169
Wrong, we can forget where Gura was buried now
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>>114788050
>ex holos won
lol
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>>114788216
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https://youtu.be/_Rvx92mPFT0
Koyo Starting
sololive announcement?
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started!
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>>114788267
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>>114788216
>>114788267
back to school
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REGloss AR Live (paid)
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/2098728759235170446
Seems to be part of a bigger thing called holoALIVE?
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>>114788257
HOW TF SO LOW
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>>114788036
Only to the effect that having more actual viewership has the potential to have more paying fans. Ad revenue is generally a joke, most people use adblockers. For example, for VTubers to actually earn more than a couple merch sets a year, before the view counting changes, they'd have to be pumping out tens of millions of VOD views a month with at least $3/1k views for their ad revenue. And the reality is with most people using adblockers, that was probably more like $3/5k views or worse. Now that isn't bad money for one person, but it's not great either for full-time content creators that need to invest a lot back into their content creation. That's why most creators are taking sponsors, selling merch, and using support sites and membership/subscriptions. Diversifying their income streams, mostly because those earn more for the effort. Ad revenue skews higher for finance and tech than gaming and chatting streams/vids, but conversely people that are into tech are more likely to use adblockers.

With the view count changes, estimating ad revenue is likely impossible. What I'm curious about, is if YT still kept their daily view limit per video, per IP. I'd assume it's unchanged for the engaged viewership, but it has potential for abuse for the displayed viewcount. But that's likely intentional since they want to compete with other short form video sites like tiktok, instagram, twitter, etc. that count views in a similar fashion to this new system. They also changed their partnership program to be harder to qualify for because of the new view counting changes.
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why is it so low?
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>>114788330
Towa debuff
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>>114788200
Finally, a PPM BVLL here to boost our ridiculous, pathetic, small ppm. If it weren't for them, being blessed by our mods, we'd be less relevant as a thread than Reddit, heck , even KiwiFarms!
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>>114788330
karma from overlapping too much
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Why did HoloEN flopped bigly??
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Miko unboxing her tsubasa game deluxe edition gift from bamco
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>>114787972
The guy is asking how does popularity work because GG has less subs than all of EN, but is more watched than people like Mori and FWMC >>114786113 thus he wonders if GG is actually more popular than they are despite the lower subs number
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>>114787885
>>114788128
He isn't wrong, though. The horse race is fun, but speaking seriously, no single metric reflects how popular a VTuber or streamer is. You will need a combination of several metrics to get a more accurate estimation for general popularity.
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Marko seething about Holodori lmao
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>>114788376
sample size of 1 could very well be a statistical fluke
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>>114788330
Cursed for overlapping FWMC
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>>114788330
Who in their right mind would want to hear Koyori "sing"?
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>>114788381
Holodori was made by Qualiarts though, not an internal Cover team. It's what he should've done all along, outsourced to an actual development team instead of thinking he can create a game in house with his ping pong buddy.
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>>114788399
cover is a tech company at its core though
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>>114788330
The merger killed hype even for the JP chubbas
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>>114788114
>Nigga doesn't know the kpop formula of the power of friendship
Why do you think the ktranny sisters always try to make their group famous and then their oshi famous
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towa sounds horrible
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>>114788330
Even under a normal Subaru stream... Is acoustic that much of a debuff?
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>>114788314
ReGloss is the new golden gen
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>>114788424
it is
i dont know why some holos push for it, it's literally worse than the normal version of songs
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>>114788376
Even "watched more" is misleading because Mori and FWMC get better viewership for typical Hololive streams like 3Ds, and they have more paying fans. From the standpoint of Cover(and even Holos) high CCV may as well be useless if it isn't bringing money with it.
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>>114788411
No it isn't, every tech venture they've tried has failed. Even their own in house Live 2D app is complete shit compared to open source now. Hololive is where it is because of the talents. The sole decision that has actually helped on Covers side was building the 3D studio
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>>114788381
If you read the job description it clearly states they need people who can handle projects and take care of IP licensing. No where it says game developer or game dev skills are needed. This nigga is seething for no reason. Hope the post goes viral so he is called a nigger
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>>114788379
>You will need a combination of several metrics to get a more accurate estimation for general popularity.
Here is the thing: popularity is not a quantitative metric, it's a qualitative one and absurdly insular.
For instance: this song right here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzG4uDgje3M) has five billion views on YouTube and I assume most people never heard of it except, of course, for the ones who did in whatever niche of audience this song captured.

Is this song more popular than Michael Jackson's Billie Jean? Is this song LESS popular than Michael Jackson's Billy Jean?
I don't think it is possible to answer that question because, as mentioned above, popularity is a qualitative metric very dependant on context and there is no number that can be used to compare two dissimilar works or creators and determine which one is more popular, people know intuitively but it's not mensurable
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>>114788376
multi povs that close in ccv are a joke
just someone having a good moment on stream can drive a bunch of viewers to check out their pov
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>>114788399
It was codeveloped, Qualiarts really is only responsible for the rhythm game and even that has been modified.
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>>114788447
NTA anon but cover is listed as a tech company and their core philosophy is tech. Hence why we have shit like holoplus holodori the thing they are developing with Sony for card game and the new streaming app with holoearth stuff for talents. They aren't a talent agency like nijisanji
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>>114788456
Gotta build that wall higher, that Niji monkey clearly can climb it!
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>>114788471
That's like saying Apple is a farming company if they happen to own a plot of land somewhere that grows wheat. 99% of Covers revenue comes directly from their talent management, concerts, youtube memberships and superchats and merchandise. None of that has anything remotely to do with tech.
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>>114788451
>seething
He's literally a market analyst.
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>>114788484
Nigga THEY ARE LISTED AS A TECH COMPANY ON THE STOCK MARKET.
They are a tech company. You are actually retarded. Their revenue can come from any resources but if they consider themselves as tech company they are tech company.
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>>114788459
No wonder holodreams is shit and failing already after not even 3 months
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Miko's PS5 broken...
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>>114788495
He is very bad at it then
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>>114788453
the fuck is this?
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>>114788498
>if they consider themselves as tech company they are tech company.
So they're the trannies of the stock market basically. Don't question it, they identify as a tech company, bigot.
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>>114788506
I would have told her to get a PS5 Pro, but I think they're sold out because of GTA.
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Not sure why they canned dev_is, they are actually growing well especially kanade and hajime's music and dance videos. Even the so called runt, ririka has found her niche in her short videos, check her video views.

https://youtu.be/qaCyE_mfotY?si=xjdZ-o4BkL0HnIRX

Compare to say holox who started hot but kinda wasted their potential, it is kinda the opposite for dev_is. I think a 3rd gen of dev_is would actually blow up and cement their footing.
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>>114788511
EXACTLY! Whatever the fuck this is, it got 5 billion views on YouTube.
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>>114788453
This shit was huge if you had 6 year old cousins in 2020
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>>114788516
>kanade and hajime's music and dance videos.
>ririka has found her niche in her short videos,
I don't think either metric is enough to help a vtuber to read their potential (or even break even) if their live audience and, more importantly, if their PAYING audience doesn't grow to match.
ReGloss, in particular, the claim is that they're doing well in pretty much every area: mindchair with the art world, shorts, dance videos and whatnot but if they fail to attract an actual paying audience all of that doesn't really advance their careers.
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>>114788453
this song was actually very popular when it released and it was posted everywhere as a meme version of despacito released the year before
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>>114788538
That's part of my point: popularity can't be quantified numerically because of the way it works. Something can be very popular within a niche of audience but that popularity can't be compared (numerically or otherwise) with something else popular in some other niche
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>>114788554
Any hope for the full tables for old times sake?
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>>114788513
Yeah who should I listen to a random loser on an anonymous board or the people who are actually running the company.
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>>114788516
Because they are simplifying branding. Dev_is was a solution in search of a problem. Nothing would have been different if they had just called them 7 and 8, other than people being confused for like a month.
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>Sakutan reading superchats with ATMs in the background
HOLY KEK
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okay has ANYTHING changed viewership wise with the merger?
like any increase or decrease in viewers?
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The return of Mikoo?
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>>114788592
nigger it's been like 3 days
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>>114788565
See >>114788571, my point is not that that song is not popular, it is that popularity is not comparable and not numerically quantifiable

>>114788573
>Any hope for the full tables for old times sake?
vstats polluted the database with a billion very obscure vtubers from smallish corpos and Indies, and also with non vtubers so "full table" in the "every vtuber vstats carries plus a separate kaigai table" is unlikely but a "full-ish", yeah, I'll prepare one for this weekend with as many entries as possible.
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Nerissa is the only good voice actress in EN
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>>114788588
Is that an AI background?
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>>114788554
well theres no way to tell that unless you work at cover
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>>114788592
Why do think it would change instantaneously? Are zoomers this stupid?
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>>114788588
Isn't that where you buy train tickets?
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>>114788576
They might aspire to be a tech company but until they start making a significant part of their revenue from actual tech products and not talent management then they are not one. It's that simple. Tech companies do not make profit from selling overpriced acrylics and plushies or concerts, or youtube streams. They make their money from actual tech products. If Covers new streaming platform is successful that will make it their first profitable tech venture
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>>114788554
I agree with you, popularity =/= paying audience. There's no metrics to gauge actual paying audience except actual sales data. If i am cover right now, i would start by giving kanade and hajime their sololives starting from small venue capacity and slowly scaling up.
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>>114788642
Anon you can call an apple product a knock of version of Huawei as long as you want but unless and until apple admits that yes it's a knock of version they will keep saying it's their own taken on foldable. No matter how many post you make or how many people rile up on X saying no it's a knock of version apple will continue to say it's their original version so yes cover is a tech company according to their own ideology you can bang as much head as you want the only thing that can change this if they make changes when applying for prime stock or the current restructuring leads to them switching from tech to entertainment which doesn't seem to be happening considering how much tech shit they are involved in
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KOYOLIVE INCOMING?
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OOOOOOOOUH ALBUM
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wtf they are handling out lives like candies
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>>114788642
Also the talents have been using Holo app since the begining of their streaming career so yeah there are certain tech stuff that we as audience don't know about.
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Koyo sololive!
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SOLOLIVE DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>114788698
I mean the talents pay for their own sololive I think cover only loans them money and shit
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https://x.com/MunSiiOuO/status/2098321548423921711
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HoloJP wins again!
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>12.2026
is that like the 7th sololive this year?
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Tokyo garden theatre
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As part of the new globalization push, Koyori's sololive will be in Minnesota
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>Koyo Sololive
hope this makes Koyo stop sperging out
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>>114786620
just for this day
we should delete one spot
so tally will be 11th place
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>>114788554
You could use superchats but I'm pretty sure two of the members have them closed I think. I kinda assume they have a paying audience since they push a lot of group merch and their fwu plushies sold out a couple times, and a lot of collabs with outside brands(jimmy, raden). But no real hard numbers.
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>>114788613
You are absolutely correct, all we can do is to speculate. But of course there are hints in their publicly available metrics.
For instance, the only ReGloss girl with a higher SC revenue than Shiori is Ririka, and by a small margin.
Kanade and Hajime, in particular, trail the rest of the group by a huge margin despite the successes mentioned for them in terms of songs and dances views.

Of course this is donations, a fraction of their revenue but there is no indication that they're doing significantly better in the non public metrics.
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>>114788722
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10 sololive
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>>114788742
holy shit it's a lot more than i thought
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>>114788698
Suisei sololives were very expensive and now that they don't have to foot the bills on those anymore they can do more of the rest of talents
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>>114788715
does that means despite all the bs kiara was on about sololives, she just doesn't wanna spend money for one?
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>>114788742
18 Sololive this year?
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>>114788742
>>114788743
Why do I feel like it's more from last year also next year? I do remember compiling it might be in archive
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>>114788741
Holos don't even read superchats anymore and encourage fans to buy merch instead of sc so that metric is kinda useless nowadays too.
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>>114788756
Who knows?
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>>114788716
Same venue as Nene 8K capacity
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why did it drop off by more than half from last years
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>>114788764
Suisei has like 7-8 sololive of her own (JP tour basically) and she has a big announcement at the end of next one
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>>114788740
See >>114788741 for the SC comparison. If any of them has it closed it doesn't reflect in their lifetime number.

>>114788660
See

>>114788660
>If i am cover right now, i would start by giving kanade and hajime their sololives starting from small venue capacity
Cover never ever ever even once "gave" any of the girls a sololive.
All sololives are self produced, self funded and the girls have an uphill battle to prove the viability of their plans before getting the green light.
That's why Watame has two and also why Noel still doesn't have hers: the sheep put the legwork to make it happen and Noel self admittedly still didn't.

I think with Cover doing away with DEV_IS they also done away with the idea of it being a pair of gens that got carried by the company with "group activities" coming from the branch funds.
That means it is very likely that they will eventually get their sololives, but because they'll do the legwork to make it happen.
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>>114788796
missing the two faces of EN buff
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>>114788795
Imagine this but pink
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>12k outfit reveal for the biggest indie avenger
Avengersfags? What went wrong?
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>>114788796
How was the overlap last year?
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>>114788796
Literally who cast and one id and one flowglow debuff towa doesn't hold big numbers the only one good is azki
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>>114788816
saba came back?
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>>114788772
I agree that it is an useless metric in absolute values (a single good birthday merch run dwarfs most Holos lifetime SC revenue) but it is a good tool to eyeball the size of their paying audience in comparison with each other
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>>114788803
>she has a big announcement at the end of next one
REAL WORLD TOUR
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>>114788816
>You know shit is bad when biboo outfit reveal beat sakuna
Thing about indie avengers is they don't have the collective might like hololive but still getting 12k is a big thing
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who is the earliest member who doesnt have a sololive yet? answer is probably something boring like choco but i'm still curious
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>>114788816
>>114788833
Not even shitposting with the moniker the girls themselves came with:
>it's "akatsuki", doofus!
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>>114788841
rbc
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>>114788821
but azki was in both
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Outfit reveals is an outdated old meta, they don't really get big numbers anymore.
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PARE PARE PARE!!!
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>>114788841
That would be Haachama and Aki, no? Actually >>114788850 is right, that would be our cutest robot
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>>114788860
It's NOT an old meta for the first few outfits, specially with Saqua having to ditch her old design due to her illustrator escapades
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>>114788878
She had a few outfit reupdate reveal and a meme one. It is already way past the novelty period.
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parepare really is the new sss
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ENGLISH TIME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uuGlURu9cw
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>>114788860
This is the cope we're going with?
I'd like to remind you that Sakuna's birthday stream got mogged by Shiori's. Let that sink in.
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wrap it up koyori good streams are starting
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we're eating good today fellas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uuGlURu9cw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uuGlURu9cw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uuGlURu9cw
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>>114788901
>>114788910
>>114788914
>iofi
PASS
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Pretty big venue for koyori.
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>>114788910
>Mori
no thanks
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>>114788902
Is it a cope when it is a fact? Any holo outfit reveals that get actual big numbers nowadays? It's just slight buff nowadays.
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Kino ending
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>>114788934
What capacity?
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OHHHH Biboo TA ToT
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>>114788901
is this another one of management's "hey look how unified we are, our little family loves each other so much, there is no drama here"
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>>114788934
2.5x Lui's Sololive
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>>114788945
7-8k
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>>114788910
>watame
never
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uuGlURu9cw
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>>114788934
A bar would be big venue for that failure
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>>114788945
8k seats
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>>114788945
8000
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perfectly even doooorya
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Biboo is already being a brat...
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>>114788986
MORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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is it just me or is justice barely a thing anymore? I legit forgot about them with how active they are and how much they are mentioned
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>>114789015
You are not wrong. Justice turned out to be a big failure sadly.
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BIBOO NEEDS CORRECTION ToT
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>Mori's chat full of #whereiskiara
Her silence is deafening
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>>114789045
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>>114789058
Where?
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>>114789058
Generally we call people schizo who hates a talent but you are an actual schizo
Fker being seeing shit
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>>114789058
>Mori's chat full of #whereiskiara
Nigga I'm watching the stream and I scrolled up just to see if you're shitposting and I didn't see a single hashtag
Can a picture next time
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Why is Mori so big?
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>>114788945

8K
>>114788795
>>114788815
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>>114789085
God I need to have sex with schoolboo so badly
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>>114788588
holy fuck that model is a downgrade. gaou you motherfucker why did you admit to it.
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What cover should have done instead of holoearth is to straight up build a venue to hold vtuber concerts kinda like akb47 with their akb theater. They can even rent it out to other performers. when they don't have the production to use it constantly
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>>114788939
>Be former first army
>Get mogged by Shiori
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>>114788631
Yes
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>This could've been Gura instead of Iofi
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>>114789085
>anti homo on the right
>homo whores on the left
sasuga
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I'm done with the normalfag summer life. I need my degen dose again.
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>>114789116
Mori is a management shill who Selend Gura and Kiara
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>>114786781
>>114786940
>>114787117
>>114787370
What kind of stupid are you. How do you actually fall for the same old holo vs holo.
How are you not embarrassed to have been so easily and continuously manipulated like this for so long.
Is too much pride to admit that the same schizos that have been attacking holo for years, attacking anyone really, actually tricked you.
I know you'll reflexively lash out at me, but I just think you could do better then this.
Don't let the schizos beat you like you are
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>>114789106
Why is this wolf trying to steal my gem child?
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>>114788571
Well within the niche you can figure out who is more popular by looking at a combination of numbers, like as far as streamers go iShowSpeed is just the top guy at the moment, that's very hard to deny. But if you compare Speed to some one outsie the niche who is in another niche like say The Rock, then that's were you gotta do some hard calculating, clearly they're both super well known and among most popular people in their lane, but against each other it's kinda tough
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Remember if you hate on Iofi you're siding with Kiara and aren't on Mori and management's side
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>>114786779
Jesus, have some self awareness woman
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>>114788804
I still think gen lives are a good idea, and Cover should encourage them.... though its really just my greed cause I want to see a gen 0 live... I guess its the opportunity cost is too different since they can all make successful sololives, with 2 of them doing so individually in massive arenas (I think azki sololive could fill an arena if she had guests)
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>>114789128
Based
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Watame murdered 40-60 million people and holofans still defend this
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>Cannibalism waaaoooww
Made me laugh more than it should've
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>>114787811
I mean, this thread never correctly identifies who the biggest Holo is, so it’s pretty accurate.
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>>114789123
Watame literally said she likes boob and biboo said she likes the word fart on stream how much more Degen you want anon
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>the 2 faces of EN together in one pov
>two 2nd army JPs in one POV
>Sub 15k ccv...
Mio can get this doing her morning show by herself btw
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>>114789203
better oil up the goalposts nigga
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>>114789203
Kiara isn't there though
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>>114789203
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>>114789203
EN is a strong debuff
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Fucking Helmir taught watame boob
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>>114789203
Mori's channel is number's poison, why is cover still trying to make her the next Gura or even the next Mumei, it's just not gonna happen
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>>114789203
A lot of people are boycotting Mori because of her treatment of Kiara
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>>114789202
Good to be back.
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>>114789236
you lost napling, now kill yourself retard
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Mori and Ina stream was 12k
This means Watame + Mio < Ina
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JWU did Mori address the Kiara situation yet?
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>>114789257
Yes she said watamates should be spanked for teaching watame boob
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>>114789257
Nothing to address. Entitled Kiara can fuck off.
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>>114789203
meanwhile when Bae hosts a JP x EN collab
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>>114789135
Wolves like to do this shit
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>>114789257
she said death to all nijinigs
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>>114789282
Both has biboo and Mio hmmmmm rrat
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>>114789280
Deadbeats are treating Kiara so bad they make Nijinigs their treatment of Zaion and Selen look sane in comparison
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>>114789299
you are so pathetic
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Why are JPs learning english? You said it was EN who would be forced to become JP???
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>>114789312
Just say management's cock is your oshi bro
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>>114789299
Cry me a river and put a ward in it.
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Donie status
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>>114789143
First off fuck your Holo vs. Holo slight of hand beggar. Second, Iofi brought all the smoke on herself, trufax.
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GOOD VS EVIL
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KEK
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>>114789136
They each have their popularity strengths Speed can mog the Rock in ccv in a live stream and beat him in social media views, but Speed can't sellout Wrestlemania, but overall right now I think Speed is hotter the attraction. Like if there was a convention and they both attending I think Speed would have the longer line to meet him
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>>114789328
What a cuck, what a brown clown, kek
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>>114789282
that's why Bae is getting a Solo this year and not Mori
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>holodrones spent years shitting on nijinigs for attacking talents and siding with management
>Currently they're doing copying nijinigs in this thread
KEK
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this is the cutest shit I've seen in my life
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>>114789328
Kek
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Not gonna lie Mori's treatment of Kiara left a bad taste in my mouth I can't believe deadbeats are defending her
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>>114789382
You haven't seen my kitten then.
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>>114789381
IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A PHASEGOD
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>>114789354
Brother, people would just go to both. You really think they would forego shaking the Rock's hand or getting a signature to talk to Speed?! Hello?!
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Are they ever going to release more information about that hololive concert in early January?
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>>114789058
why do you lie?
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>>114789399
>bad taste in my mouth
Open your mouth my dick will help you with your taste issue
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Melon Soda isn't an American thing sensei
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>>114789404
If the lines are long as fuck, you may only have time to go to 1, I think most people would pick Speed first, but then again I guess it would depend if there's mostly young/kids there or if it's more older people who may not know who speed is
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>>114789433
DAMN Haoto? I watched some of her HoloGTA reactions
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does mori not actually speak that much japanese
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>>114789437
I know who he is I wouldn't go see him if there was no line.
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>>114789461
Daily reminder
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>>114789474
Mein Gotto.
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>>114789461
She speaks it fine. She was literally speaking it the entire stream with Riona before this
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>>114789474
What am I looking at
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>>114789381
>Niji - has literal paid and unpaid troll antis getting sued for shittery, people willing to kill for chuuba cash, botting galore, stock buybacks, abuse of talents, literally cannot go a month without a yab
>Phase - /pol/ with vtuber audience mask, talents and fans insulting each other left and right, yab after yab including an actual shooter, shares VShojo's old envy of Hololive audience
>Hololive - well adjusted fans and talents who are contributing members of society, give to charities and have many stories of philanthropy

Easy to see why one is on top.
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>>114789485
huh
she does the N3 thing where you shorten your sentences so you don't fuck up
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>>114789486
That's Indian money lmao
Jarvis check him out I sense false play at work
Doko risu his ass
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>>114789328
who is this "she"?
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>>114789502
>That's Indian money lmao
Bruh, jeets are cattle
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this is ass compared to the fuwamoco english from a few weeks ago, surely we can do more than read english words
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>>114789516
A shart in the wind
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>>114789524
You've never watched a Mori stream?
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>>114789524
I just want cute engrish from JPs, this delivers that better.
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>>114789493
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This is funny
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Mococo hiatus. Guess we get Fuwawa streams now
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>>114789524
I'm enjoying it actually. They're being cute
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you're all shitposting and mocochan is graduating
https://www.youtube.com/live/QmxzjAsWqAI
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>>114789554
?
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>>114789554
Finally someone is addressing the Kiara situation. I'm glad Mococo is calling out management for Selening Kiara.
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>>114789554
oof
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important announcement from Fuwamoco
https://www.youtube.com/live/QmxzjAsWqAI
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>>114789562
>>114789554
Mococo has been sick a week
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>>114789554
What is wrong with these two why do they always get sick and burned out?
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>>114789550
Oh it's real, well shit. Hope it's not too bad
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>>114789562
damn, shame. maybe next time
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>>114789570
So? She's sick every other fucking day since the move to Japan. it's time to go back to the NWP and focus on their health and family.
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>>114789554
after fuwawa now it's time for mococo to give birth to my second child
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>>114789576
>>114789562
Okay, I understand it's not a graduation because they say it's not in the description.
But, did you have to use the graduation bait thumbnail? That's a conflicting message.
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>>114789568
>>114789576
FWMC MARRIAGE ANNOUNCEMENTS: THEY CAN LEGALLY MARRY THEMSELVES NOW
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>>114789568
After Fuwawa's hiatus at the start of this year, it's now Mococo's turn
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>>114789554
>we need to share something important (not gr𝗮du𝗮tion)
nice try retard
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>>114789581
kys Aku piggy
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>>114789596
They have to numberfag and bait dramafags
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>>114789554
She's always sick so it's probably just another hiatus announcement. Fuwawa will also not stream while she's out again
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>>114789584
My guess is appendix removal
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>>114789596
I agree, same with Raora's hiatus announcement, why not add the "not graduation" in the thumbnail?
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>>114789554
Let me guess it's another surgery? Are these mutts getting plastic surgery like Kronii?
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>>114789610
>Fuwawa will also not stream while she's out again
Mococo streamed without Fuwawa, so she probably will too
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>>114789562
That doesn't leave out Mococo getting fired
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>>114789610
Mococo did stream while Fuwawa was away, but then again Mococo is the tech literate of the two so...
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>>114789610
Nah Fuwawa is able to go solo unlike Mococo
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>>114789596
It's exactly the same fucking thumbnail as when Fuwawa went on a surgery break
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>>114789626
half of EN is going on break maybe she is timing it the same
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>>114789607
They could have put that in the thumbnail but they wanted to bait numbers so I get to bait too.
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>>114789610
>solo moco streams while fuwawa was away
>every stream was a collab
>every stream had crazy good numbers
>fuwamoco come back as a pair
>go back down to their usual numbers
>suddenly mococo sick and fuwawa doing a month of collabs
Wait a second...



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