>Be me, new indie chuuba that hasn’t debuted yet >Posting on xitter to get chuuba frends and network >Only male chuubas want to interact >Not popular enough to reject interactions, but I’m very anti-male collab >Male chuuba comments on all my posts and wonders why I ignore if I want frends Genuinely what do I do ? I don’t wanna seem like a huge cunt, but the only males I care for are my supporters . The indie chuuba scene is sensitive as fuck to things like this, so I’m not really sure what my best move is for optics…
>>114859477>new indie chuuba that hasn’t debuted yet here is your problem
>>114859477You keep it silent, and network you yourself with girls. You might have to just shove it for the first couple of collabs, where it might at best be mixed genders, or "all female" with some troon mixed in, but after your 5th or so collab you should be capable of doing only girls if you actually are doing things right.To get the first girls: open streams, join, interact, and try to see how things are there WHILE they stream.
>>114859477I'll bite your larp and say that you already fucked it up, you DO NOT ASK FOR FRIENDS so early on when male vtubers are in every corner trying to jump you, you build a fanbase and tweet on every other cute girl vtuber you see, now you either make it big while ignoring those fags and see your reputation getting dragged thtought the mud because they will use the ''she only wants popular peeps only'' card to excuse their sexpestiness OR accept that you fucked it up and talk to them but never collab.
>>114859504Waiting for my model to finish, but I wanted to build things up first on xitter to create a small community
>>114859551Never posted specifically asking for friends, just posted the general “cute girls show your models below ! !” and I’ve only , only strictly reply under girls posts. I will say I did fuck up by posting discord server too early I think
>>114859551>do not askNope, you have to ask for friends actually, nothing stupider than not taking advantage of retarded males who will raid you, become viewers, be consistent chatters, and even drop subs or more in hopes of a collab.
>>114859477>I don’t wanna seem like a huge cuntToo late for that bro
>>114859477Indie of 2 years here. I also used to be afraid that people would react badly to me not wanting to collab with women (yeah I know) but it ended up being totally ok. I think there's a good chance things might turn about as well for you if you end up deciding you need to directly say you don't want male collabs.I don't know what'd be your best move honestly. I think... probably better just to ignore and many will pick the hint. If some guys keep insisting eventually you can say something like "I'm really so it takes me time to get used to new people" and you can discretely start interacting with other girls. If you really have to address the topic directly and you're not comfortable saying "I just want to be loyal to my fans" etc. then you can handwave it by saying that you had "bad experiences with men in the past" and that should be enough for virtually everyone to leave you alone.For a girl I imagine you'd still get the pushy guy now and then but at that point no one in Vtubing are going to think you're stuck up for not wanting to network with him.But again these are just my thoughts. The advice a lot of people gave me is that outside of Twitter people really really don't care that much at the end of the day, and many times the outrage mob itself peters out after like a couple days. So yeah don't take this situation as if it a nothing burguer nor as if it were a grave situation that could define your chuuba future or anything like that. Just an akward first step.
>>114859551>male vtubers are in every corner trying to jump youW-What???
You should start talking with Saken the sexpest MD.
>have literally nothing to offer other than having a vagina>surprised when only men bother to respondWho could've foreseen this
Why is vtubing so chock-full of misandry???
>>114859477STOP TWEETINGSTART STREAMING
>>114859477>The indie chuuba scene is sensitive as fuck to things like thisNot reallyTons of indies large and small interact and collab with male vtubersIt's the corpo fans who have a conniption over Twitter interactions>>114859552Start streaming with a PNG
>>114859477Make fan art for the female chuubas you want to be friends with to start talking and open the door to friendship. Just keep ignoring the groomers!
>>114860722This poster is the male chuuba replying to your tweets
>>114860818Who says they have any artistic talent?
>>114859477Nice LARP , I R8 8/8
>>114859477Literally just say the truth.Men DO NOT get hints. Just be polite about it.>sorry but I dont think we would vibe well, I am looking for female friendsAlso just ask and interact with smaller chuubas that you like. If you have an indie oshi you can literally DM her and look for support in her community.>>114859552STREAM BITCH STREAMModel is less important than stream presence and experience. You can use a png or a cheap as shit customisabl chibi or something.
>>114860975KYS sabaschizo
>>114859477JUST FUCKING IGNORE THEM JESUS CHRIST
>>114860899Why is he white?
>>114861050He can afford the tier 3 sub
>>114859477start an onlyfans for the male chuubas to interact with instead
>>114859477They WANT to fuck your pussy dni
>>114859477>hasn’t debuted yet>Posting on xitter to get chuuba frends and networkFucking retard
>>114859552Until you're streaming literally none of this matters. Right now you're just a nobody on X, same as me.
>>114859683The indie male vtubers scene is awash with sexpests that only use their model to facilitate harassing and grooming new 1 views. It's a known problem.They'll attention whore in your comments, slide into your DMs, pressure you to respond amicably for networking and push for collabs to "grow your channel" but they're basically just looking to dump dick pics on you. If you ignore them they'll either vague post about you or actively smear you so there's pressure to manage these clowns without throwing up optics that alienate actual viewers.
>>114859477They are trying to groom you. Just say no males on stream reee. That'll earn you some brownie points with another group of schizos but at least they aren't actively trying to molest you. Groomer hell is real and is filled with vtweeters and trannoids.
>>114859793>Cuck can't even spell his name right Lmao
>>114859477It's time to debut!
>>114859477Okay first what you do delete that post and 2nd Make a short video using your PNG model explaining that you're looking for female friends because you missed out on a sisterly bond growing up and don't want to miss out anymore (or if you do have a sister, mention that you weren't close when you were younger). Videos get much better engagement, and that emotional hook will get the girls to come out of the woodwork.Also don't be afraid of streaming with a PNG because most Indies did that.
>>114863968I must have been pretty lucky or picked the right circles then because that hasn't been my experience at all and what little I asked mutuals they always had positive experiences. That said I'm a dude and my channel is very seiso coded/don't interact with the female space at all so I guess me and the weirdos we naturally stay in our own lanes.
>>114859552If you can't entertain an audience without a model, you're not going to be able to with one. Unless it's a pure pedo bait one, but that's a different story.
>>114859477Even gigi and kaneko lumi did male collabs before as a small indie
>>114859591>I did fuck up by posting discord serverLikely the first and last time you'll ever see someone admit this.
>>114869158Why do weirdos always ask if you have Discord first of anything?
>>114869215It’s one of the easy landing beachfronts of degeneracy and grooming.
>>114869215easier access to whoever they are trying to get access too. though still never understood discords for streamers that aren't just run by fans like the holo ones. streamers really should just not have one other then for stuff like hosting events where its good for coordination if you do any at all.
Man, being a start up female indie sounds a bit rough or at least you gotta watch out for some stuff between the sexpests and meangirls.
Consider reaching out to a vtubing journalist like Salvi or False. Both are trusted and respected in the community. Getting an interview with one of them would be a great way to start your career!
>>114865271Same except I collab with femchuubas if they are okay with it. When I get told no in private (because there was no public indication that the invitation was girls only) it tends to go like this>Hey, can I join thing?>No, sorry, it's girls only>Oh, okay, thanks for your time!There are plenty of mixed/male only spaces, there's no point in getting annoyed at girl only spaces
>>114871043meant for >>114869064
>>114871010False is dead and salvi isn't exactly trusted and prone to dramafagging.There really aren't any remaining journalists, just dramafags like salvi. Just stay the fuck away from rima and nousagi because they will actively hurt you if you get close.
>>114871184>There really aren't any remaining journalistsThe Lydia news girl seems relatively ok even if she isn't exactly on False's level. Kazahana is kind of mixed. Rima is mostly ok on her own but yeah her social circle is cancerous.
>>114859477Are you going to just be you? Well you are in a tough spot, but ignoring them is the only thing you can really do.Are you going to kayfabe and be a character, lean into that shit and openly insult them as your persona. Whether a mesugski or ojousama you can play up the insults as part of the character making anyone that takes them at face value lose ground. Fuel up the interactions and hype and if anything gets too hot just play it off as part of the character.
>>114859477Just start streaming and stop vtweeting, retard
>>114871533Salvi is trusted enough in the community that a major corpo vtuber reached out to him.No comment on Lidia Backstabberozawa.
>>114859477kys grifter
>>114859477male vtubers are desperate sexpest bums. ignore em
Don't interact with them? If a malevtuber is interacting with you he's trying to have sex with you 90% of the time.
Post your feet, it's the only way
>>114874341>major corpo vtuberWho?
>>114869215Every discord fanbase sucks ass and they get so mad when you point this out, they also get mad if you as a non-groomer join in good faith assuming people just want to hang out (they don't, they want to groome the vtuber). It's funnier still when you realize how broke they always are (but claim to be software engineers).
>>114871184>salvi isn't exactly trustedYou know one thing that really bothered me about him? There was this one time a girl got embroiled in a legal battle with her former agency. Yeah, *that* black corpo. Anyways the legal documents doxxed her real name which sucks but I mean what can you do. You know what that asshole then did with those documents?? SHOWED THEM ON STREAM AND IN HIS NEWS RECAP VIDEO WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO CENSOR THE NAME. Like he couldn't give a shit that the chuuba's full ass name was showing up on *his* stream. I don't remember if he even said the name out loud but I don't think he did. That really pissed me off.
>>114859477ew
>>114859552put on a PNG whore, start the show now so when you officially debut, it won't be as empty and maybe you could retain some people, stop the vtweeter shit and grow a pair
>>114869215Discord is where the grooming happens. Like 99.99% of controversies, altercations, spats, rumors happen, or start, is in a Discord. You want a chance at fucking, sexting stalk a chuuba then Discord is the way.
Let's not kid ourselves, anyone just starting now this late is not serious. Just join some dating website skip the bullshit.
>>114859477Spread wide and learn to enjoy it it's for your career
>>114875341ey if it works it work
>>114884615>Canadian
>>114884900Sorry did you say Indian moslem?
>>114859477keep ignoring them, block them if you have to. they know exactly why they're being ignored follow the smaller vtubers you like, maybe they'll notice you. you won't be making any friends before your debut because no vtubers you'd want to be friends with will want to risk that, especially with how many trannies are in the community don't worry, making friends will be easier after making one friend since she'll introduce you to her friends too >>114859591delete the server before it's too late, this will be the best advice you'll ever get as a vtuber
>>114859477>what do I do?You have put in no work yet and expect collabs from someone who doesnt just want to fuck you? Go live by yourself. If you're good, they will come. If not, keep going live. Keep going live and do not stop.
>>114859477Who are you?
>>114859477fake
>>114860899The slop didn't even try with this one
>>114859477Shill here and be inflammatory and clickbaity. Later you can deny that was you and scrub any association with this place because it's anonymous.Literal cheat code to chuuba life. Be sure your avatar looks like a modded FF14 character for max engagement.
>>114859477if you're making posts asking for friends you should always always every time specify girls."are there any cute vtuber girls" etc.also if you're a tranny it's already over, give up
>>114889687Saba
>>114859477Keep ignoring the sexpests, you know what they are up to
>>114859477For the love of god mute them all and just ignore the freaks.They are literal sexpest predators.They are hunting for easy 1view pussy to groom. They dont succeed much though I'll tell you what.Keep on chugging.Uploads some content videos and such to things.I can tell you one thing. No man wants to ever see male collabs ever.At best its tolerated. At worst its something you drop vtubers over.Just remember men and women cannot be friends.
>>114897040The Pippa way
>>114859477first of all, you should rape yourself for using IM as OPsecond of all, you should rape yourself for using reddit spacing
>>114897040Could be the next zentranny model if it had much larger boobs
>>114859477Ignore all of them they do it to everyone.
>>114863968if this is true then where are all the leaked male vtuber dick pics? if vtubers are getting groomed and tell people about the grooming then surely someone would have leaked the pictures
>>114875196Twisty from Nijisanji reached out to him and he broke the story.
>>114859477>>Posting on xitter to get chuuba frends and networkHere's your mistake. If you don't even have audience (since you didn't debuted), what did you fucking expected?
>>114909292I think it turned it wasn't Twisty but one of her former groomers that was trying to make her look back. He reached out to False first but False had some suspicions and journalistic integrity so he reached out privately to Twisty to double reference the story. When she told him about why this guy was leaking it he declined to publish the story. Salvi just went ahead and published the story without checking or questioning (probably) harming his credibility in the process. It also doesn't help that he had a regular program of showing the NijiEN superchat ratings to dunk on them.
>>114859477Grow the fuck up. The only people that care if you communicate with men are chuds on this board. Stop holding yourself back for people who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire
Why are you even looking for streamer friends? They're the worst kinds of people, they'll backstab you the second you become inconvenient in any way shape or form. Spend your energy on something that will actually help you grow as a creator such as high quality assets, properly setup stream shit and figuring out your niche. The more unapologetically yourself are the more you'll stand out, if that means telling male vtubers to go choke on a turd then do that and the people who value your "no males" policy will be attracted to your content anyways. Just be a " huge cunt", it's legitimately not a big deal.