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Flip edition

>Is Stars/Niji/FSP/Indie allowed?
Yes! If your male is cute, he may stay.
>Is BFE and gosling allowed?
Yes! There's no harm in loving your oshi without repercussions.
>Is female collab discussion allowed?
No females or female only related drama is allowed, you have the entire board for that.
>I'm an indie doing research on how to be a cute boy! Any advice?
Watch streams, lurk, and don't selfpost. If you want to self-shill, go to >>>/vt/wvt instead.

>Additionally:
Ignore bait, shitposting, samefags, discordfags, numberfags, tribalfags, falseflaggers and don't derail the thread with fighting. Fujoshi, yumejoshi, and hornyposting is encouraged. Genderbends of males are discouraged and considered off-topic

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>>114909238
There's even a philipino cover
https://youtu.be/ipVRC92Wq9g?si
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https://www.youtube.com/live/vAwgsfkDpcc
Nakao Takao Shinomiya TRPG
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>>114909238
no collab happened in flip sing se
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>>114909238
Who's the black haired dude with the horn? The one between Octavio and Dubstep.
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>>114911707
Anon, I don't mean to be rude, but there are a total of 5 posts in this thread. Please, just look up a little bit.
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>>114911774
Oh shit yeah I looked it up thanks.
Surprised this Zoren dude is getting a collab with big corpos if he has less than 1k sub. Dunno if he's PL friends with one of them or something
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>>114909274
>700 subs
>Cover song with Octavio and Ryzar
>Collabing with them, Ruze and IZIGENIA guys
???
Who the fuck is this industry plant
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>>114912148
having friends doesn't make someone a plant
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>>114912148
Ruze? I don't think so.
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>>114912013
I'm pretty sure it's because he's just flip. Flips all just stick together like that
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Varis Raft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDL-9_pmgWY

Liron Don't Scream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjFKvjjiiwk
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Nice streams lined up for tonight. We've got Leader X Flayon Avatar collab, Hakka and Liron Smash Bros collab, and on the Niji side we have Backrooms-
>fish whore is in it
Ah, unfortunate since I haven't watched a Niji collab in a while. But it is what it is and we still have variety. Thank goodness Niji isn't the only one with male vtubers anymore compared to years ago.
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>>114913163
>Leader X Flayon Avatar collab, Hakka and Liron Smash Bros collab
Little Brother streams, all for me!
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>>114913193
Based!! T o T
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Cass Solo Valo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gfRG57_Qpo
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>>114912930
>Flips all just stick together like that
Fuck me man maybe I was onto something with the Flip cabal comment, inviting a rando to your corpo collab just because he's Flip is crazy. I mean I'm sure (I hope) he was fully vetted and all but still...
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Izumi mahjong
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>>114916467
zoren has been around some years, no? jutai have definitely collabed with him previously
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>>114913163
I forgot Flayon was doing second stream
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Gave this cover a re-listen recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBBcjXT3-20
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u-san 6 months strong.
https://x.com/unnamednow00/status/2100721986939064675
twitch.tv/unnamednow00
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boys?!
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>>114922239
Hakka and Liron Smash Bros collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXuU45QGu8o
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>>114922239
Leader X Flayon Avatar collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kECsecsQQzo
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Design your perfect ideal boy vtuber from scratch.
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Very cute!
https://youtube.com/shorts/rkVqaHRg4oQ
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>>114913193

Leader and Flayon are brothers?
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>>114924081
to me
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>>114909238
dubstep’s design is truly so beautiful… he’s not my type of streamer at all though so I’ll just admire from afar
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>>114925574
Everything other than the headphones is great.
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Do women actually find Luca's himbo goofy shtick attractive?
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Never heard of Izigenia, what are they like? Are they any good?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzqKlqtHnFY
Cass VA Submission Stream
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YJYD79MQhA
Blazelust Date Night
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Sega gave them a segment at TGS. Think they'll have another TGS segment some time later.
https://www.youtube.com/live/PDEPHKqmmnQ?t=2498
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Zanny's trying to colonize Ryzar.
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>>114930085
The doberman Senzaki bro sings well. That's all I know.
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Splatoon 3 collab
Altus pov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE9xvRecAJ8
Malim pov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft0qmTXqNe4
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https://www.youtube.com/live/kNIL028QLsE
Leon Village in the Shade
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ETA until Solan gets tired of the yandere schtick?
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..... boys.
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>>114930085
Sedric is one of the best singers out of all corpos out there, (probably only beaten by Octavio) not sure why no other corpo picked him up before.
Shao is difficult to get into unless you're a furry. He has a really nice voice, good for ASMR and reading, I just wish he was given a human model. I really don't care for the games he plays though.
Dubstep, I can't say anything about, haven't really watched him. And there's nothing drawing me to him.
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>>114937444
>not sure why no other corpo picked him up before
You can have all the talents in the world but you also need to be entertaining. I haven't watched his streams so I can't say whether he is or not, but he did do a lot of karaokes in his debut week and not many games or creative streams. Corpos hire talented people but they mainly hire you on how entertaining you are. A couple of boys have always stated they got in because they made the interviewer laugh during the test stream.
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Axel slander!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0sJjH7x-rU
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What I find most frustrating about this thread is everything you people say you want, you imply it in isolation or don't follow through with incentives.
>all a guy needs to is just [insert trait/behavior here] and they'll print money
But then you can easily point to a million examples of males with that exact trait who aren't popular or nearly as popular as others who don't do/have that trait or behavior. Example is female collabs, if you believed this thread you'd think it's a death sentence for any guy but there's seemingly literally no consequence. Guys, regardless of their female collab status or frequency, still get posted and lauded here. Exemplar being Flayon, who is know for being a groomer of indie female vtubers and not being able to keep his mouth closed about his general lust.

Still gets posted here
Still gets people praising him
Still no real pushback

It's not a wonder why males think that they can basically get away with anything because women, at least /here/, seemingly just put up with anything. On the other side of the coin, male viewers become schizophrenic hate-filled wraiths when someone they watch violates the social-contract between viewer and vtubers, and they require huge amounts of compensation to repair that relationship. So I suppose my question is, what's actually wrong with you people? Do you just like being bullied or having your rules violated? Are you just stray kittens and nobody else will take you in? Do you just not know what you actually want? Do you just deliberately say things you don't mean?
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How lower or higher is the bar to get picked up by a corpo as a male vtuber? You have to be entertaining, but what if you barely started streaming or don't have a following?
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>>114938781
>being a groomer of indie female vtubers
Dang brother Flay's womanizing irks me but Even I wouldnt go that far. Anyways Flayon would probably be as popular and loved as Zanny if he didnt have the bad traits you mention. Hes just Hot & unique enough that a lot of fans are willing to put Up with his coomer stuff
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>i lov yuri tho, go lezbeannzz!!1
>"Yeah, too bad we didn't have enough ice. I love yuri on ice too
Kek Zanny
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>>114938843
You're replying to the incel indie schizo. He always says "you women never do this!!" and assumes every anon is the same person. Look at the file name of all things. Hide his post and ignore him.
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>>114938801
It's infinitely harder to become corpro as a male because, despite what the surface might tell you, the gender split of actual vtubers is about 50/50. But the gender split of corpo vtubers is like 80% female, 20% male, if I'm being generous. So you have less than half the opportunities, but the same amount of competition.

It's going to be much harder if you don't have some sort of existing successful content creation experience because whilst yes, you have to be entertaining, you also have to have a work ethic. You could be the most talented man in the world, but if you cannot sit your fucking dumb retarded ass down at a computer and tolerate being slightly uncomfortable or bored or having to sometimes follow orders you don't agree with, then you're completely useless. You also have no idea if you even like streaming or content creation, and so there's no guarantee you won't just quit after the contract is up meaning that the corpo just invested a shit ton of money into an IP that is basically dead. You have no proof that you have any ability to manage a community or how to not step on a PR landmine. You have no proof you can relate to the audience they're trying to build and retain. The immediate question I would be asking if I saw a very talented but completely unproven guy applying to my corpo would be, "What proof is there that this person can actually do the job?"

Maybe if you could show me like some other things like a university degree in a non-meme field at a non-meme institution, a distinguished career, strong volunteering participation, etc. That would go some way to proving that you can actually apply yourself.
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Imagine turning up to the shooting range and you see some dude in a revealing leotard and knee high boots with bondage straps with incubus horns and tail. WWYD?
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I think you guys should take out a loan and start a new vtuber corpo.
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>>114938843
>Flayon would probably be as popular and loved as Zanny if he didnt have the bad traits you mention
I know what you mean in spirit, but I do find this to be a bit of a cop out since you can't prove this and I earnestly don't think that if Zanny sprinkled in the occasional female collab that he would experience any significant decrease in viewership.
>Hes just Hot & unique enough that a lot of fans are willing to put Up with his coomer stuff
This is also part of what I mean by "you imply it in isolation or don't follow through with incentives". To me, it just seems like anything a female fan says isn't actually a binding resolution, you can theoretically get away if you can just redirect their attention (and men are arrogant, they all definitely think they can get away with it). Like jangling keys in front of a baby. He hasn't fixed the issue that is said to be a cardinal sin, but as it turns out a cardinal sin actually means trivial annoyance.
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Zanny wants to be the protagonist of ADHD
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>>114939116
Turn tail and run lol
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>>114939208
>as it turns out a cardinal sin actually means trivial annoyance.
I heard many female fans that said they wanted to give Flayon a chance but they ended distancing for one reason or another. His branch is about to be downsized while the agency that embraced the opposite ethos had a meteoric rise in little above 2 years. In the interest of fairness it should be mentioned that the FSP guys were always kind of well connected and had a good insight into the industry so it's not 100% a rags to riches story.
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C-cute snek....
https://x.com/hxzelnutchoc/status/2100893159211569311
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Shiki's Poppy Playtime Saga Begins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55EGZje3RWE
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>>114939395
>meteoric
FSP has been successful, but there are so far away from the heights of what corpo vtubing has already done so I feel that's a bit of an exaggeration. They are successful in their niche, but recalling the heights of Luxiem which didn't care at all about keeping the genders separate which indicates the the 'no girls allowed' niche seems to be incredibly tiny and not at all the standard template for success. If I recall correctly, Niji fans gloated about how their talents had the freedom to collab with whoever they wanted and still did NOOMBERS whilst Cover was trapped in an eternal gender civil war. If anything, the key to male success seems to be don't make 'your mom' jokes in front of the Chinese.
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>>114937444
>Dubstep
He's easily the most talented and successful hire, relative to own field of specialty, from all of Izgenia. In fact, hard to find that level of a hire in corpo.
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>>114940443
What else can he do besides play Valorant?
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>>114939993
>heights of what corpo vtubing
Luxiem also had some degree of luck in debuting when the quarantines were still kind of a thing and before LADS launched, as well as first mover advantage in an agency that earned a reputation for doing male chuubas "right". Incidentally before Luxiem's launch Holostars JP was making serious bank. Numbers like CCV and sub counts can also be misleading since they don't have a direct translation to earnings (they really do vary a lot from fanbase to fanbase)
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>>114940980
But if you believe this thread, Luxiem wasn't right at all because they did co-ed collabs very regularly.
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>>114940539
He could play CSGO but maybe people don't want to watch that or collab for that.
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>>114941063
Malim.....
Also how is that a talent? The game doesn't look THAT hard
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>>114941418
CSGO took the mantle of 1.6 as THE coop team fps game of the ancient (lol) era when characters didn't have wacky special abilities or any weaponry that was out of reach for other players. Your character literally didn't matter, it was just skeelz and teamwork. It does seem like most Vtubers didn't really grow up with it.
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>>114941552
So Dubstep is the most talented and successful hire of itchyscratchy because......he can play CSGO which is rarely played by vtubers......g-gotcha.....
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>>114941668
Oh no you don't
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>>114941750
And no he didn't apparently, whatever that was looks like it got insta deleted
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>>114941829
They misspelt Dubstep as Substep which isn't funny, it is funny that they found it embarrassing enough to delete and post it again with a correction
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>>114941867
Stoooooooppppp uee you guys are meeeannnn
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If I want to be a male vtuber but I have a colorful internet footprint, am I just fucked?
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What's with the influx of male vtuber advice posts? My guess is because of the new debuts? Just stream bro
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>>114942218
>just stream
Unironically the worst advice for anyone starting out
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>>114941971
POINT
and
LAUGH
hahahahahahaha!!!
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>>114942237
Damn you're right. Virtual youtubers shouldn't stream
If you're a vtuber that streams, FUCK YOU
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>>114942369
>you're not a vtuber unless you stream
tourist radar going off right now

you shouldn't stream immediately because you will just stream to nobody, waste hours of your time, get demotivated and quit. you should be creating some form of non-live content first, music, asmr, essays, random shorts. grow some sort of following first and then stream because you'll at least have a handful of people then to actually watch you stream so you don't feel like a total loser
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Didn't read, didn't ask
Don't care, take it to /asp/
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>>114942672
>/asp/
Have you seen that thread lately? It's deader than a graveyard and the zombies left are so toxic just reading the posts gives you radiation.
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>>114942932
I have not read anything there in over a year and I don't care to. I think it's always been bad.
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>Vain on my recommended because of the Unholy 3nity collabs
>Okay why not, let's check out what he's doing
>Bed cam? What's that? In 4D? How does that work? Let's see-
>It's him showing his IRL body
Oh, no thanks I'm not hungry for that at all.
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What new debuts?
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>>114943185
Your mom debuted some new outfits for me
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>>114943366
Errrm anon we only like men here. Please use your dad jokes next time. Thank you.
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I miss the fih I can't wait to see him again in the collab
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>>114943393
Well I'm your new dad so
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>>114943431
Can I fuck you?
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>>114943751
No I'm not gay
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>>114944114
Boy have I got good news for you then!
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>>114942970
>I think it's always been bad.
Yeah you'd think it couldn't get worse than what it's always been, but somehow they did get worse. Much worse.
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Sontaris Gameshow!!
https://www.youtube.com/live/5KSFqZZ-GnM
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>that's my protector!!
C-cute....oh my size difference heart
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Naruhodo
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What the FUCK did bro download??!?!?!
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"I would never commit a crime"
- Varis Hemlock
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>Saeir unironically almost cried recording his lore video
Awwwh.....
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Oooghh every time Nimue says something mean and condescending I want him to belittle me while shoving his toes down my throat
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SOLAN FERNWICK: A Horror Movie
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They're so silly I love when they laugh together
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>>114944136
You hate faggots too? I'm so happy.
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Fih......
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>Time to get to crying, snek boi!!
Uoooohhhh Nimmy please be condescending to me next
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Saeir is very open mindeu
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec40ZdKyr58
Flayon 【UNDER NIGHT IN BIRTH II】
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Nimue's small fih brain....
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Solan likes matching clothes and just doing things in general with other people. He's like a little brother who just wants to be like you :pien:
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>>114945317
Lmfao did Nimue actually say that
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Solan is /fa/ regular isn't he
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>>114945672
Yes but it's out of context lol he's referring to gorgon tears being able to un-petrify someone
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I can perfectly imagine Varis surfing in a suit www
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>Solan used to collect ants
Not giving his model shorts is a crime for how shota he is
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Wow they really can do magic! They made Solan disappear!
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Snek laugh is too adorable, I'm getting fuzzies in my tummy
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Nimue desu!!
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Even manesans know the appeal of these boys uoooohh
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They're trying so hard to make a Pilk version of Addict kek
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ADDRESS ME
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Sontaris is 4.....
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KEK Aurel's noise gate ruined it
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The 6th member of Sontaris is named Frank
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Ryzar Unarchived Karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR_u9TYLasg
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Otsontaris! Ueee I miss them already....
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>>114943029
he seems more like a sex pest the more I learn about him
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>>114945800
>referring to gorgon tears being able to un-petrify someone
They can? I thought part of the tragedy of gorgons was that getting petrified was just as incurable as dying. Then again I assumed Medusa was the only gorgon in Greek myth.
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>>114947350
Maybe it's in some mythology or instances of gorgons but not others. It's listed in the Superpower Wiki if you search tears so there's that
https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Gorgon_Physiology
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Oh my God Flayon I don't care about your fucking 3DPD hands I want to see the anime game and the anime model!!!!
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>>114941736
An actual answer would be that he's already got a fanbase, plays a variety of games, and also dips his toes into ASMR. His cover wasn't bad either, and his streams are usually pretty cozy.
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>>114941736
He plays CSGO? Someone needs to hook him up with Altare.
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>>114938537
I think Sedric is entertaining, he's not a crazy loud person, he's very chill and cute.
I think the problem is ALL the boys are chill.
They really need to hire someone more chaotic to add into the mix.
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Just my opinion but I think people were a bit too harsh on Solan about the NTR stuff. That said I can totally see why some really didn't like the hime sama stuff.
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>>114946137
finally! now they’re amazing
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>>114946137
The way that literally everyone voted Saeir...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ6isFzYDNQ
Altus SF6
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3VvCcBEkzM
Zanny House Flipper 2
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https://www.youtube.com/live/yT1ny6CJYbk
Nao Jiyou 18TRIP
https://www.youtube.com/live/2Acoj-jn0sA
Nakao Takao Shinomiya TRPG
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Zanny is annihilating vaguetweeters
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Nice to see Oni-sama already getting better at Street Fighter. I want more boys to do fighting game arcs.
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>Guys, I'm a roofie! That's a person who does roofs, right?
Never change, incubus
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Saeir Parasocial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m5g8TU_Pe0
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>I'm pregnant, my oshi did it
I wish
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>>114953681
Starting a Parasocial stream with borderline nsfw ASMR is so funny of him
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>A British soap opera called Coronation Street has almost 12,000 episodes
Pokemon and One Piece found shaking in their boots. I love learning new information in Zanny's streams
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Who has better bfe, shiki or ash
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>>114954503
My pet rock does better BFE than both of them combined
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>What were you guys playing? Parasocial? Enough about me towards my Jellies, what were you guys doing?
Kek
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u-san has something in the works, they said his manager is whipping him to make sure they get it done
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>gale refuses to play with apollo
lul was his audition really that bad
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Zanny Buckshot Roulette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnJtIDLWbio
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2-i9SJlmUw
Varis zatsu
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Zanny PLEASE! Leave the dead JP branch ALONE!!!
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>Zanny's demographic is majority late 20s and late 30s adults
Based
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https://www.youtube.com/live/sy44U5HK31I
Waiting room is up for Leon's new model 3D
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These boys are so funny. I once again kneel to the hiring team.
https://x.com/NimueEversea/status/2101419254251696138
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https://www.youtube.com/live/FpBAU-Wqu4Y
Izumi Dave the Diver
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https://www.youtube.com/live/OBRbarYS7k4
Atanaru watchalong
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Varis and Nimue Advice Stream
https://www.youtube.com/live/NY1P4VqKcs0
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What did he mean by this?
https://x.com/ShikiKatagami/status/2101481416014045490
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I like when Nimue says "Yaaaaaay :D"
Cute fih
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Rosco Voice Acting Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A9SOfPP7uU
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Windrose Collab!

Shinri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ledbdlX0okc
Altare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CyG6DJtZc8
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Let's gooooooooo
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>>114965273
He is tired of seeing people still talk about his talking to minors drama of which he still deserves lashings
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6RX9aGSPLE
Flayon Handcam
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You can pick any two boys from any agency or indie for a threesome. It can be either MFM or MMF. Regardless of the formation or if they'd get along you are magically guaranteed that they'd be ideal lovers or that everyone will have a great time. Which boys do you choose and how much would you make them kiss each other? You can even say some of what you'd like to happen if you're feeling adventurous. And remember they can ANYONE. Graduated, "rival" corpos, never even talked to each other... anyone with anyone, they're all for your picking. Choose your pairings, and you can pick more than once.
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Altare read all the Harry Potter books. I guess he doesn't support the cause anymo-
AXEL JOINED
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Flayon got his hair on camera lmao
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Rosco saying the moe moe kyun line in that begrudging voice made it 100000000x cuter
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>>114966728
>Altare read all the Harry Potter books
Supposedly by the fourth book the film adaptations start dropping the ball big time. I think it was Order of the Phoenix that a lot of the book readers started really shitting on the movies Harry's asian gf was a qt tho, shame about her name however
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>>114966836
I don't know why you are telling me this information
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I can't wait until this new RP event starts I want to rip the vocal cords out of everyone who won't shut the fuck up about district slop
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Solan Zatsudan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9LxpJ_Nlmk
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>>114966749
Is this video going to be privated now....
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I mih fih.....
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They dun meme'd the lore.....
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He read the whole Brother may I have some oats meme......I kneel
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If you are watching Flayon model kit its going to take awhile also stuff might get broken
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>>114966596
I don't know about all that but I'd like to see a Kaz Jiyou Nidaime love triangle.
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Solan's singing and guitar is amazing. I see why he was chosen
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Do women actually like the gay inflection that some guys like Zanny and Roy have? If so, why? As a dude hearing it, it makes me want to rip my skin off despite not caring about gays.
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Sometimes I wonder if he remembers there are Straight women in chat. Watching Flayon right now. Maybe my brain is messed up
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>>114969742
>I went to the sexuality and gender torment chamber and all I got was this confusion about my sexuality and gender
new holostars merch idea
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>shinri wasnt allowed to comm anybody who ever produced R18 art
>bettel still slobbers all over gigglepox, famous for putting magni's entire arm up his asshole to the shoulder
make it make sense



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