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Just like how VShojo used to manipulate public opinion about hololive, Saiken has his little SEA army try to scream nonsense whenever someone questions his so-called "achievement"
https://x.com/saikenMD/status/2097020650816761870

I pointed out days ago >>114882889 that "doctor" vtuber channel does not have the correct doctor label that other real doctors channels have. I posted hard evidence that this guy has a completely different label and he and his discord simp army start seething, not even seething, but DERAILING the entire thread trying to bring up cucking different vtubers or just blatantly ignoring the links right in front of them.
At the end of the day this has to be blatant advertising, and it has to be against some rule against post manipulation, derailing, or shilling. I'm tired of this faggot getting away with it and thinking he's smarter than everyone else.
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>>114918532
>I pointed out days ago
Maybe you should find a more healthy hobby
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>>114918532
It was pretty obvious when the cuckspam started he's probably hoping the negative publicity gets him hate views lol
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>>114918532
Your oshi got fucked by a jeet doctor lol
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i think op is cooking here, keep investigating, someone has to stop him before he fucks all our oshis!
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>>114918612
Funny how his simps will cry to remind you he's not brown because he posted a korean flag once or speaks a few words in chinese. Then try to use the noise to drown out one anon found his college frat (a literal SOUTH ASIAN fraternity btw) and people saw him at offkai. Because if there's one thing flips hate more than themselves, it's indians.
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>>114918680
He's a fat manlet larping as a doctor because he peaked as a nurse or some other "health professional".
I highly doubt he's fucking your oshi or having these con orgies like some of the cucks on this board will fantasize about. But there have been twitter accounts of him being a con sexpest and having receipts of his behavior, so overall my opinion is unchanged he's a piece of shit and deserves a good cancellation yesterday.
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>>114918726
>Because if there's one thing flips hate more than themselves, it's indians.
Based desu
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>>114918680
OP should probably just apply to medical school
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>spends all his time ineffectually seething on /vt/ instead of doing anything actually impactful
lol
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>>114918532
Is it worthy to fear him so much?
Think like this:
Midas might transform all he touches into gold, but the things this guy touches might already be trash.
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>>114918532
Here's another doctor whose label only says health professional
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_nQwik8-po
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>>114919394
>brown
Thanks for proving our point
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>>114918786
>>114918532
hes a fat brown asian man who gaf. everyone is using him for clout like they do the holostars only to drop them once hes no longer useful
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>>114918612
>Your oshi got fucked by a jeet doctor lol
>Karin Edelfelt in Saiken's bio
Oh no..
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>>114919661
the fact he has clout, or that people think, to begin with is pretty telling lol
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>>114919939
Even though they are a joke the holostars have clout. In vtubing the climbers will use every bit to climb the ladder.
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I honestly don't give a fuck if he's a doctor or not. Such a red herring. He's an insufferable faggot and that alone is enough to hate him
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>>114919939
numbers is laughing at this guy
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>>114918564
If what he says is true, I think you should find a more rewarding job.
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>>114918532
You also claimed that "Doctor Mike" was a real doctor, and he doesn't have any kind of medical license disclaimer on his channel.
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>>114922132
Doctor Mike is a real doctor though, he did family medicine residency and works as a GP
https://students-residents.aamc.org/specialty-perspectives/mikhail-varshavski-do-family-medicine
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>>114922207
So why doesn't his youtube page have it?
Apparently that's the only evidence you'll take.
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>>114922288
His youtube page doesn't have it because he never applied to the health program. You don't get the label just because you say you're a doctor, you need to send in an application for them to verify.
https://health.youtube/features-application/
Obviously Doctor Mike has been on the news and in magazines, so he is big enough to not need to rely on YouTube to vouch for his credentials. I dont understand what the point you're trying to make here is.
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>>114922461
But again, that's the only evidence you're using for the vtuber guy, and this is a youtuber you yourself brought into the conversation
So what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Either the disclaimer is proof or it's not.
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>>114922625
Mama Doctor Jones is a doctor youtuber and has a disclaimer that says she is a licensed doctor. You can also look up her real name (Danielle Jones) and find all of her medical practice information.
Doctor Mike is a doctor youtuber who doesn't have a disclaimer because he didn't even apply for the program. But he has been on traditional news media like TV. You can look up his real name (Mike Varshavski) and find all his medical practice info.

Saiken is a doctor vtuber and has a disclaimer that he is a "health professional" now why is that? He applied for the program but could not get verified as a doctor. Because he's not a doctor. Or he graduated from some Indian medical school and the US does not recognize him as a doctor. Or he is a nurse or some other licensed professional and there is no other way to figure out what he is. Because he's a vtuber you cannot look up "Saiken" to find his medical practice info because he doesn't use his real name.
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>>114922867
He's literally a licensed health professional in the US though.
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>>114923079
Ok? That doesn't mean anything. He could be an acupuncturist for all that implies.
If he was a doctor, then it would say doctor. There's nothing else to say.
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If it's so important to him for people to believe he's a real doctor why not post your real credentials? No one has to take you at your word for anything. A little youtube disclaimer doesn't mean jack shit
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>>114923365
>He could be an acupuncturist for all that implies.
No? Those don't get actual medical licenses, just business licenses. He has a medical license.
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>>114918532
ham fucker
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>>114923468
You don't understand, vtubers have to stay secret identities!!!
>>114923519
Yes, acupuncturists get health professional licenses. So do podiatrists, nurses, physician assistants, physical therapists, and a bunch of other jobs. He can be any one of those things but CHOSE to make his branding about being a "medical doctor", and youtube called him out on his BS and assigned the correct category to him. It's just so shameless for him to advertise that in a tweet with 40k likes and brag like he accomplished something when in reality that label is the biggest hole poked in his entire story.
Why are you trying to defend him so badly?
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>>114923468
Do you not know what vtubing is?
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>>114923636
The fuck? No, they don't. Acupuncturists are not given medical licenses.
Jesus christ, did you think chiropractors and nutritionists had medical licenses too?
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The man who killed /pxl/
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>>114923683
Is that why he shows up in person to cons and orgies in his lab coat?
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>>114923683
Vtubing USED to be about playing a character. Not flexing your real life status. Obviously Saiken doesn't know what vtubing is, and neither do you
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>>114923683
If he's so desperate for people to believe he's a real life doctor it's the only way. Otherwise there will always be doubt.
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>>114923851
so it's kayfabe then
what's the problem?
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>>114923702
Acupuncturists have health professional licenses, nutritionists also have health professional licenses. In the 21st century these are legitimate medical treatments and some doctors even prescribe them as part of treating complex conditions (chronic pain syndrome, intubated patients dependent on tube feeding, for example).
Chiropractors are not medical professionals. It's a pseudoscience and completely irrelevant to this conversation, so I shouldn't have to argue this with you.
You also didn't answer my question. At first I thought you were Saiken (or another member of his Discord SEAfags) but I think even he has too much pride to throw in chiropractors as a red herring, so but I think you are actually just that dense.
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>>114923925
holy retard
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>>114923997
>Acupuncturists have health professional licenses, nutritionists also have health professional licenses. In the 21st century these are legitimate medical treatments and some doctors even prescribe them as part of treating complex conditions (chronic pain syndrome, intubated patients dependent on tube feeding, for example).
No the fuck they don't, and no they do not.
Seriously, where the fuck do you live that an acupuncturist would ever be taken seriously in a professional setting?
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>>114924036
You are correct nutritionists technically aren't medical professionals, however the guy you're talking to is probably conflating them with dieticians, which are legally registered health professionals. As for acupuncturists I have no idea but you can probably google it. Anyway I think his point is that doctors aren't the only registered health professionals, which is absolutely true
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>>114924036
https://www.nyp.org/integrative-health-program/our-services/acupuncture
This is from New York-Presbytyrian, one of the best hospitals in the world. Doctors work very closely with acupuncturists to tr at those kinds of conditions. Obviously they are not going to be helpful for things like heart attacks or cancer, but doctors really to integrate and prescribe things like acupunctures, nutrition consultants, physical therapists, and others as part of their process.

Also you're dodging my question again.
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>>114924175
Christ, apparently "oriental medicine" is its own thing.
What the fuck, you don't need any kind of proper medical training for a certification. Gross.
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>>114918532
Are the femanons in this thread trying so hard to defend him because they did in fact let this guy have sex with them under the impression he was a real doctor?
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>>114924321
Which brings me back to my original point. His "licensed health professional" label means absolutely nothing. He's not a doctor, or else it would say doctor. And the fact that he's proud of his "accomplishment" and bragged about it on twitter just means he hopes that everyone else is either too stupid or too lazy to do the 5 minutes of research to prove that he's a phony.
Unfortunately based on how popular that tweet and the video he made off of it are, looks like both are true.
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>>114924175
>Also you're dodging my question again.
Alright, I'll spoonfeed you.
I'm not defending him. I'm poking at a schizo so desperate to be heard that he's making threads citing his other threads and samefagging them to bump limit.
Hell, nobody in any of your threads as far as I can see have defended him. Nobody's talked about his content or anything from any of his tweets or streams. (does he even stream?) They've only been laughing at you specifically.
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Fuck him and phish
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>>114924511
>He's not a doctor, or else it would say doctor.
>>114919394
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>>114924660
And you think "Nav Badesha, MD" is a US physician with a US medical license?
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>Hey guys the proof that I'm a real doctor is this Youtube tag that can be obtained by any type of health professional besides doctors
Yeah ok bud. Gonna need a higher standard of proof here
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>>114924652
Nobody is laughing at me saikenschizo, pretty much everyone agrees he is bad news and a blight on vtubing. You're the only one who's bothered to challenge it so I had to spoon-feed YOU the argument that you were too stupid to understand unlike everyone else.
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>>114924777
Are you genuinely retarded? Use Google.
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>>114924777
Have you been to a hospital in the states? Nearly all of the doctors are imported because americans tend to be too stupid to pass.
The power of the american education system
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>>114924869
Nope, spoonfeed me this time. Show me any non-self-referential proof this Indian went to a US medical school and has a legitimate US medical license.
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Admit it Femanon.
You had sex with him because you believed he was actually a doctor.
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>>114924818
If that were the case, literally anybody else would also have made an anti-saiken thread
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my money is on him being a nurse or some shit kek
no real doctor is gonna moonlight as a 2view vtuber
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>>114924906
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nav+Badesha+MD
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>>114924896
When you only look at White and Asian test scores, the US is consistently in the top 5 and top 10 for science and math respectively.

I know that goes against your narrative Ranjeet. But take solace in the fact your village might finally get a toilet this year.
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>>114924961
Yeah? Try looking at the names of the people actually getting those scores, as well as where they got their education
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>>114925040
If you’re suggesting they’re Jeets from the Punjab I’ve got some bad news for you
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>>114925102
Oh, you'd be surprised.
Indians make up 76% of the doctors in the world, you know.
You can tell because it shows up on their youtube channels.
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>>114924921
I don't think this board is a stranger to him at all, and given that he's supposedly a 31 year old man who's constantly online, he's not a stranger to here either. Which is why I suspect him astroturfing himself or samefagging drama threads for that exact reason. And why I suspect your supposed stupidity and why you kept dodging my questions just another thing you're trying to hide connecting you to him.
>>114924806
>>114924917
>>114924950
I had other things to do, so I stepped away for a bit and still found this on page 1. These posts are very obviously him or someone in his circle trying to anti himself to bump the thread.
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>>114924961
https://x.com/saikenMD/status/2055130148844789918
Look at this video from his subathon (what kind of doctor has time for a subathon?) and see how pathetic it is he had to excessively brighten the video to whiten his skin to appear less brown.
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>>114925376
Idk man bro is so obsessed with making sure everyone "knows" he's a real doctor I'm not sure why he would try to push the narrative that he's not one. More likely than not he's the one defending himself though. NTA btw if that even matters
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>>114925376
>These posts are very obviously him or someone in his circle trying to anti himself to bump the thread.
ok how the fuck did you come to this conclusion? Hell, a quick trip to the archives shows he's only ever brought up in very specific threads like /lig/ or /corpo/, with most of the posts being from you specifically.
Any replies are either telling you to kill yourself or talking about how you killed /pxl/ with your schizoposting.
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>>114925563
It's just my intuition. We know that he has a private discord or a group chat for his hardcore fans to defend him on /vt/ at all hours of the day and night, and it's simply the most logical conclusion. Their biggest grounds are in /corpo/ /#/ /lig/ and /tingles/ just waiting for someone to complain about him so they can rein down their shitpost about him sexpesting their oshis and rendering places like /pillow/ and /pxl/ completely unusable.

Glad they moved to towa or /zords/ which I don't think he's discovered yet and get to continue their threads in peace.
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>>114925806
that's just how nu/vt/ treats male vtubers in general.
Vesper, Flayon, Jurard, etc. all get the exact same treatment so I don't know why you think he'd be different.
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>>114925887
Those male vtubers are at least in a major corpo which actually holds them to some modicum of standards so they're 1) actually streaming 2) not openly sexpesting girls at cons or 3) trying to constantly replyguy them on twitter instead of just doing fucking 1)
As if the fake doctor thing were bad enough, somehow it's the least problematic item on the docket considering nobody has a paper trail of inappropriate behavior like this guy. It's a mystery to me why no one has spoken up yet and the only hint of a google doc we have is from this one account who refuses to make good on their threat.
https://x.com/LadderVtub62850/status/2027648701963923967
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>>114926013
>who refuses to make good on their threat.
Because there's nothing to pin on him. Schizo
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>>114926040
So do you just ignore every piece of evidence you find in your archive or what? You're doing the same thing over and over again where you plug your ears and refuse to engage, like a child.
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>>114918532
I don't care whether he's a real doctor or not, I just find him annoying. He's a glorified replyguy on Twitter, and his fans take a page out of ironmouse's book whenever he's called out: "but he's a doctor!". OK, I don't care, just go away.
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>>114918612
How brown is he?
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>>114926079
The girls like him and the only ones mad are literal who loser schizos like you. If there was dirt on the guy, why isn't it out? Because there isn't any
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>>114926110
>>114925460
might need to bring the gamma down a bit yourself
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OP is rin wasabi and he was raped by saiken, uwoslab and professorbloom at magfest one year and he never anally recovered
the rape explains his constant seething hatred of these male vtubers and also his (self admitted) endless torrent of shit dribbling out of his ass which requires him to wear diapers
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>>114926100
another saiken shill recycling buzzwords and bumping the thread. his fans really are the most pathetic.
>>114926128
Because I guess the girls like him and their fans are too cucked to make them angry by going against their wishes.
But don't you think it's strange before every con he has girls lining up in his twitter replies and then after the con itself they suddenly vanish? (Lia after Final fantasy con comes to mind) something is really going on there.
This really isn't my personal agenda priority compared to how I feel about his fake doctor license, btw. It's more just underlining how shady his character is.
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>>114926172
haha, oh look another one
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you can tell its rin because the shitposting in /lig/ dies down when he is replying on cooldown in this thread
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>>114926235
Obviously he's in their dms and private discords, unlike you
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>>114926324
so I'm assuming correctly that you're from /tingles/ since they're the only ones who genuinely believe that?
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Imagine sucking off a 2view pretend doctor and not even getting paid. Just sad really.
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>>114926374
no, from /choc/
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>>114926374
This is how socializing and having friends is like. He's in their dms and discord. Everything public is just performative
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I hope he is drugging and raping them at conventions. They deserve it.
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>>114926516
I hope so too. Then he will actually get criminal charges like he deserves.
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>>114926575
He's fucking your oshi for free while you pay to get your chats read and seethe online
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>>114926422
I'm sure he's paying off his discord server to defend him the conversion rate of USD to PHP is very strong.
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>>114925806
Zords is for homosexual cucks
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Just gonna put this out there but taking money or gaining trust under the false pretense of being a physician can lead to charges like fraud. If he is a licensed physician then it's literally malpractice to do either without having verifiable credentials. So either way this guy is extremely retarded.
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>>114926599
Are any of you pathetic flips capable of a real response to any of the evidence in this thread?
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>>114926714
Someone made this point months ago and was laughed out of their own thread. Just goes to show you the IQ of the average retard that still browses this board. >>112630460
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>>114924959
https://www.uclahealth.org/providers/navpreet-badesha
>MD, Caribbean Medical University, 2018
Yeah, that's what I fucking thought. Sit the fuck down.
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>>114926861
Are you really surprised that the average /vt/ user is subhuman IQ? I thought that was pretty obvious.
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>>114926913
>2018
The Caribbeans are part of America, retard.
also

>Medical Board Certifications
>Geriatric Medicine, American Board of Family Medicine, 2023
>Family Medicine, American Board of Family Medicine, 2022
>Fellowship
>Geriatric Medicine, UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine, 2023
>Residency
>Family Medicine, Southern Illinois Univ School of Medicine, 2022
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rin RAMPAGE
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>>114926982
You are once again proving just how little you know about actual doctors.
Caribbean med schools are the lowest of the low and disrespected across the board. they're essentially only for people who failed courses in uni, or switched to med later in life. Graduating from a Caribbean school is a stain on anyone's resume and tells you exactly how serious they were as a student even before they became a doctor.
It doesn't matter where he did his family medicine (again, the lowest of the low specialization) or geriatric medicine training. The fact that he graduated a Caribbean medical school shows me how he got the "health professional" badge. They are treated as basically foreign grads in the US healthcare system.
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>hes not a doctor
>okay hes a doctor but hes a BAD doctor!
what next
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>>114927098
I know you're retarded so I'll explain it to you, the jeet they're talking about is not Saiken. You're confusing 2 different conversations. I know following reply chains is SUPER difficult for the intellectually challenged, so you're welcome.
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>>114918532
Pillowcuck deflection thread
Saiken won
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>>114927098
At least Dev Badesha uses his real name so even if his YouTube channel exposed where his shit tier med school was, anyone can look up his credentials and see he's a licensed doctor.

Now again, none of this applies to Saiken. He has the "health professional" label and no other verifiable credentials to say he's a legitimate practicing doctor. Maybe he went to a Caribbean school, maybe he failed out of residency training but the point stands that you cannot say with any definitive proof that he is a real, licensed doctor in the US.
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>>114927141
Saiken is Indian because he's insecure about his skin color and obsessed with skin whitening as evidenced by how he edited this handcam video.
https://x.com/saikenMD/status/2055130148844789918
If you didn't know, skin color is huge in indian/paki culture and they market DIY skin whitening creams heavily to the average slumdog there.
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Maybe he is licensed in Homeopathy or yoga or some shit like that.
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For the first time in all of my time in vt, I can say, I'm unironically too employed for this level of schizo lol
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The downfall of this loser is gonna be glorious lol
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>>114927141
>>114927147
who mentioned saiken
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>>114927416
I really hope you mean saiken
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>>114918532
Youtube's certification standards vs. one anon from who knows where
Who is more trustable?
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>>114927019
Would it really be him? I don't think they'd ever move in even similar circles
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>>114926013
>It's a mystery to me why no one has spoken up yet and the only hint of a google doc we have is from this one account who refuses to make good on their threat.
It really makes you think doesn't it
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>>114927497
I'm OP, I'm American and I've lived here my whole life. And I know a lot about doctors, suing doctors, and investigating how their credentialing system works (probably even more than some doctors themselves) because of some personal experiences with my family.
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>>114927545
Or, use your brain, he deliberately targets girls who have nothing to lose (Elia) too afraid to speak up (Mwocha) or too afraid of losing their audiences (Pillow).
Why haven't girls like Essie or Cera spoken to him in 4 years? Why did Lia go from sucking his dick on Twitter to suddenly not interacting with him publicly after FF Fanfest?
It really makes you think doesn't it?
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>>114927621
obsessed lol
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>>114927564
Funny thing is I'm quite sympathetic to people in the US because the whole medical system sounds super messed up over there not just because of insurance but also because of malpractice, you guys really have it rough.
But there's no way Youtube would lie for some random guy. This isn't like hiding the dislikes where they can play the fool, they'd get in serious shit if they were caught lying about someone's medical certificate. Guy might be dodgy but there's no doubt he's a medical professional.
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>>114927621
I'm fascinated in how you know all this, but the reality is you likely dreamed it all up
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>>114926599
I don't think my oshi knows he exists because I don't worship low 2views
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>>114927706
Youtube is not an official licensing board so their "credentials" are literally as baseless as a random anon itt. Also it seems the problem is that Youtube is just saying that he's a licensed health professional, which covers a wide variety of professionals who are not doctors, so using it as a way to verify if someone is a doctor is useless anyway. All in all the burden of proof is on Saiken, and he has not proved he is a real doctor. This literally opens him up to a ton of legal liability whether he's a real doctor or not lol. Dude is playing a dangerous game for sure.



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