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>>114953197Would
>k*ara threadGross.
>>114953405Pregnant her too double gross but no one else is making a thread
I want to fuck chocomint
>>114953308I did notice we haven't talked about them as much lately with collabs faltering and the light burning out. Only the cuckposters bring them up on the regular. I'm glad because shit I fucking couldn't care less about them
>>114953405>>114953411>Kiaraschizo can't post images
Is 100k debut possible for Asobi?
>>114953443how much did Justice have predebut?
>>114953443200k debuts destroying Saba so hard that she'll delete her channel Screencap this
>>114953411Why make a /#/ thread?It serves no purpose.>B....Buh....But we discuss numbers sometimes!Bullshit! This thread is little better than a thread for twitter drama farmers, BVTM or whoever else wants to pass a bait thread off as genuine discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfTK2g1aJCo
>>114953443It's the absolute minimum required to not be a flop
>>114953461Flowglow highest was 190k
>>114953323Are you seriously saying people on Towa don’t take nonsensical schizobabble “theories” with 0 proof seriously and that’s why they’re bad?
>>114953485The stick figures look way too reasonable and wholesome
>>114953485>nobody making OC anymore>only someone making slop edits of the previous thread.You numbersissies really need all the help you can get to boost your pathetic PPM huh?No wonder you let schizoBVLLS rail you day in, day out huh?
>>114953497Of course it's bad! How will I convince people that my rrat is somewhat real if other people aren't repeating it 24/7?HOW DARE THOSE REDDIT KEKS DEMAND I ACTUALLY PROVIDE PROOF TO MY CLAIMS.
>>114953509An accurate one would be monkeys screeching and flinging shit in each panel
>>114953547well no i don't think anyone would be appreciative of proof reallyits more like what does it have to do with anything?
guess it's this one then
Goatgirl winning in subs means we will get more kemonimi gens later, age of humans is over
>imbred 4chan ads are backHow does this guy afford it and why does he keep doing it
>>114953583>muh ENSHrts>now if you’ll excuse me I have to go shill Astels epic karaoke and spam about how Oga and Aruran are so based and broiled and the same copypasta about how Shien is so UNHINGED and CHAOTIC
>>114953568>well no i don't think anyone would be appreciative of proof reallyPlease clarify your point.>its more like what does it have to do with anything?Honestly, a perfect summary of this thread.
>>114953638you see ads?
>ENshart so triggered by the truth he needs to make up something about the homofaggots from the JP branchCase in point >>53913524
>>114953638I’d be shocked if 4chan ads aren’t stupid cheap considering the only people willing to pay to advertise on the neonazi cuck porn site are people using it to shitpost, sites selling flashlights and AI/crypto scams
>>114953197The baby is black btw
>>114953197Sex with prego Wawa
>>114953673I don't have my adblocker enabled here for fun sometimes since the ads can be amusing>>114953677I keep seeing gooner ads too not sure if legit or not
>new girl understands Simpsons shitOnly a westerner gives a shit about that series deeper than "Bart-kun kawaii!!11"
>>114953730Not really, king of the hill Simpsons and Futurama are beloved over there, although quite niche.
>>114953583>memoryholeA few anons were willing to give the failures a chance. They squandered it.
>>114953730>>114953757>belovedFor westaboos, I pressume.
Weird, I swear I saw that it was over 400K a couple of hours ago.
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like it
>>114953764A few? Really nigger?
>>114953782It was, I think some bots got culled
>>114953583It was discord raid, plus>2025debut was in 2022 retardo
>>114953675Nigger, Global used to livepost Astel, there is this MS Paint comic about Shien interacting with AmeFUCKING NTROBERU REMEMBER THAT SHIT? THE WHOLE WINNING SON SHIT?
>>114953197Jesas
>>114953793A lot of anons didn't like them on account of the whole T3MPUS being subtly shilled as EN3, and the usual suspects later going from "I'm happy with no more (girl) holos for now" to "OMG NEW BOYS SO HAPPY, you're happy too, right?".
>>114953817>WINNING SONRetard, that shit was from before the failures, when there was a modicum of hope for StarsJP, before they realized western fans are fickle and worthless for them.
Wawa Livehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Y3lKsAaTkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Y3lKsAaTkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Y3lKsAaTk
>>114953817There was one faggot spamming on repeat about MUH ASTEL KARAOKAY who right up until the 4chan crash and move to Towa of global was having semi regular crashouts over homos being banned from global
>>114953817>Nigger, Global used to livepost AstelDuring dead hours in what... early 2021?You were promptly told to GTFO when HolostarsEN launched. And you weren't welcomed back.
>>114953880Tell us when she's dead
>>114953880im good bro
>>114953901Phoenixes never die, pay attention in class.
>>114953874>admits he's a JP homocuck LMAO
>>114953893Wrong.Their crashouts stopped well before the Hack. They stopped right after the Global/Stars split.If you're going to shitpost, at least get your story correct.
Does cursing in the first 10 minutes actually debuff the stream?
I'm watching Kiara
Remind me again why Kiara had a melty and was hysterical as fuck when Myth gets an anniversary anyway?
>>114953966She's one of the few members who still care about EN. The others are happily planning more JP streams and concerts in Japan.
>>114953991>care about EN>almost never join EN event unless it’s convenient for her
>>114953991She sure distanced herself from EN and their events quite a bunch, barely going out of her way to join anything.
This shit is a banger.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iWKB-Tq8aA
>>114954005>>114954038You lost phasecuck
>>114953726chikens lay eggs you idiot, but egg will be brown
>Serendipity was the last hololive English concert wish we knew at the timeI guess they don't know anything about concerts continuing at least in the same format. That's not a good sign at all.
>>114953880Nobody cares
>>114953757naruto, bdz and pokemon
Kiara just said there will be no more EN concerts, no more TakoTori concert ever again, and she will never get a solo live
What the fuck is the point of mekpark if they were going to keep debuting normal gens anyway?
>>114954070good more resources to the real holos instead of ENsharts
>>114954080Maybe you're retarded. Mekpark never meant they can't still do normal hirings. Mekpark is specifically for girls with very little experience.
>>114954080Pay attention in class and you'll figure it out
>Kiara: "Extras?">Kiara: "Huh..? Doesnt that word look like Kiara to you? it looks like Kiara to me">Kiara: "What? You guys don't get it? Don't clip this hehe maybe I just need more sleep I'm seeing the vision"So she considers herself an "extra" now? like one of those extras in a tv show, the background actors that just stand around to fill out the scene.Jesus christ woman...
>>114954063Anybody with two brain cells to rub together and a 3rd grade education knows that the NA concert is gone now. It's been fucking over for two weeks.
>>114954080they said it was to train their directors
Ultraman actor is a holofan
>>114954070Mr.Tanigo said cover is focusing on supporting real talentsit is rather clear
>>114954097That was such a fucking stupid thing to sayI have no idea how she thought that was a good joke to make considering the circumstances99% of her chat didn't even pick up on what she was saying it was so out of left field
>>114954110What's clear is that Cover is slowly morphing into Niji where all the resources just go to the biggest talents.
I have a feeling some holo's already met the new girls already at the studio
>>114954113>>114954097Maybe she's just retarded, hysterical, manic, histrionic and yet narcissistic. Maybe she should do her own semi fleshie indie thing instead of dragging down holo with her shitty mood and menhera episodes
>>114954063ww3 will start soon so it won't even matter
>kiara: the new girl is Clara
>>114954097I'm sure you'll provide proof anon.Like, a timestamp from the stream would be good.Hell, I'd even let you post one of your brown filipino clippers as proof provided they've actually clipped something with context.
>>114954097she probably lost her mind already
>>114954155>I'm not watching the stream!lol
>Makes you mad
>>114954080It's for girls that didn't quite pass the vibe check, Neon, Sayana and Lyra need the training
>Calli is worse than Elira and a management bootlicker Damn Kiara confirmed it
>>114954139Singers sing and shitters stream, both get merch based on their speciality, how is that bad?
Out of all the new orisongs / event songs holodori has had, Tri Unity by FUWAMOCO and Lui is the first to hit 1m and like 400k ahead of the 2nd place That's quite impressive. It's a great song.
>>114954070She's always a giant doomer but it shows upper management didn't communicate with them for shit. Nobody so far confirmed that they will keep English concert format but they were never confirming it before either so now it's a bit of a problem they're so secretive about everything nobody knows what happens next.
I like the over-reaction to Kiara making a joke about being an extra, so far that you're spamming retarded shit and acting like she said nothing.What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>114954209>people overreact>Kiara is the queen of overreacting and almost sudoku'd over an administrative change that doesn't even do much and Myth clearly still has anniversaries and she can still stream in English what a fit
>>114954206this is on Kiara for not asking about things, as most talents just skippa askippa if there is muchos textos
>>114954205new view change + asmrthe song itself is just okay
No matter how many Kiara fanfiction you guys write unless and until you post a timestamp along with your green text I ain't believing your shit. This ain't just me but every other anon who browses through this text agree with.
>>114954145They most likely have. Biboo, Raora, Nerissa and FWMC are basically guaranteed from the EN side. They've probably met Sora and Fubuki already
>I refuse to watch streams that are currently live and tell everyone watching they're lying!Real /vt/ mentality of you there Anon.
>>114954235It was confirmed that ONLY Ina got the full rundown and PowerPoint because she said "convince me or I'm not helping you with the promotion stream"They didn't think to maybe send them to everyone or have a meeting so everyone has the same info and is on the same pageBecause they're retarded
>>114954235its not about asking about things but Cover making decisions behind talents backs without asking for their opinion on the incoming changes
>>114954167Great response anon!" lol "So when asked to provide proof of your claim, you responded " Lol "I mean, I guess you'd almost get away with it considering there aren't any actual Holofans left on this board.
Towa just said there will never be another Hololive concert again
>>114954254Not him but I'd rather believe a random anon here saying things about her than watch Kiara myself
>>114954145weird behavior from gigi ngl
>>114954198>meanwhile Subaru is a streamer and they're trying to shove a sololive on her because numbersLmaoIt's high performers versus runt shitters, not "muh streamer vs singer"
>>114954070Kawaisou-peko(wish that were true).
>>114954267kk faggot.She just spent a chunk of time talking about Switch 2, and made a comment that she was going to 'do the shota off stream'.
>>114954198>Why is Niji's corporate model worse than old Hololive's warm vibeSeems like a question you could answer
>>114954178So basically smoothing out a lot of the edge/roughness. Isn't there a big possibility that will lead to more neutered and bland talents? For idol activities it makes sense, but for streaming I personally believe a lot of the talents/new recruits know better than Holo execs/managment.I'm not sure it will lead to the best results, but guess we will see. Personally I prefer the rougher recruits that are figuring things out as they go from the early JP and EN generations vs talents influenced and molded by the company for years before they even debut.
>>114954232Kiara knows the branch got the axe. It's not just a branding change. It's a massive budget cut where ID and EN get $0 for this fiscal year and JP first army get all the investment going forward.Kiara can only do projects if she takes it out of her vacation budget now. And she needs to save money for after she graduates or is terminated.
>>114954293There have been like five Sololives since the October quarter (the one that supposedly said that more resources would be given to First Army) and not a single one of them contained neither First Army nor a Second ArmyTOWA got a Sololive, BAE (before Snake Eyes)
/#/ can't decided to side with Kiara to shitpost about the merger, or to anti her as this thread normally would.
>>114954324The merger is fine and nothing will be lost. Kiara is a dramatic bitch and annoying.t. holochad
>>114954305I hope this shitpost is real. Would mean the English speaking talent would spend far less time on bullshit and we'd still get a few songs/events here and there. Perfect, honestly.
>>114954305Oh don't worry sweetheart no one is graduating anywhere after Halfsold Serenade
>>114954266Hololive got turned upside down, from talent driven with Cover providing tech support, to corporate-run where talent are ultimately disposable. I don't think you can understand it another way
>>114954324it depends on what's convenient for us. we are the masters of doublethink.
>>114954324this thread's schizos have a bigger hateboner for Mori.
>>114954338>t.drone
>>114954261>Because they're retardedBecause Ina has numbers and lives in Japan most of the time. The strategic vision spiel that Ina got was exclusive to Ina only. Mori or maybe Fuwamoco or Biboo could have gotten it but only if they got time with a busy upper manager in a hall by sheer fortune.
>>114954357>please overreact and believe my "EN is ending no more EN stuff" bullshitsorry little phasebro
>>114953583NGL, I fell for the magging memes and gave thema a chance, while some were akward some were awesome and together they were just bros being bros.... all that changed when they reminded us the reason why they joined Holostars, not to work but to try and hunt for Holopussy, that's when all hell broke loose and many people started leaving.
>>114954370Mori, FWMC, and Biboo would be far more likely to have some kind of offer/explanation given to them than Ina. They're way more popular with the Jap fans than Ina is.
It's so cute how this narrative is entirely the opposite of reality, it has been a year and if anything, First Army has been totally fucked by whatever Cover is thinkingSubaru hasn't got shit, but you know who has? HoloX. Yeah, the part timer Laplus got a Sololive before Subaru, isn't that shit great? Or the Botan Cup before anything by Pekora or Marine. I don't know who the fuck these people think the First Army are. Pekora, Miko, Subaru, Marine, Suisei, Aqua (RIP). Who of these have gotten ANYTHING? Suisei, only Suisei have gotten anything this past year. Miko got her book and the release was fucked, Pekora got...a karaoke? Subaru has been fucked for years even if she does want a Sololive. Like, what the fuck are you talking about. How is Hololive less of a runtocracy when compared to 2024
Phase really is that corpo with small dog syndrome, Especially their fans.
>>114954155I can link the timestamp after her stream if I remember. It happened around when I posted that while she was sitting on the main menu of FE, so 20~25 minutes into her current stream.
>>114954038cause most of them live in JP or schedule similar, things get planned when most are awake(not when Kiara is), if she even see's the ping she gets awkward about asking to join when all the planning is done or there are no slots left. She also just doesn't like most friendslop games.
>>114954402The retards only founded success outside of vtubing by being brostreamers. Almost as if that was what they should have focus on.
>>114954379>"maybe if i tribalfag hard enough i can pretend things aren't changing"Do you really think this will work
>>114954407>Laplus got a Sololive before SubaruWhat?
>>114954407since when did laplus get a sololive?and subaru doesn't even want one atm
>>114954436Sure "anon". I really hope Shiina gets raped in front of the wontons. oops.
>>114954299>Kiara>ShotaIf you mentioned finishing Yakuza next week, no matter what, it would have been more believable
>>114954370what about CCGG? They don't live in Japan.
>>114954339>we'd still get a few songs/events here and thereWe're not getting any events and songs are just talents pissing money away so they really need to cut back.I bet every orisong going forward is a Holodori song, once per year since that's the only way to get their flop paid for by the company.
>>114954098I wouldn't expect them to stop doing US concerts but probably not in this format anymore it's a big question where the fuck are they going with the kaigai expansion from here
>>114954436Literally all this thread ever does is deflect and punch at ghosts as if any fucking fans of other companies or holofans come here
>>114954436>they are changing okay, everything is changing, no more EN concerts no more EN hires no more money for anything EN>just trust me
>It's clear that based on what Kiara has said, she is copying Fauna's playbook to the step.>EN is doomed because the talent likely out of it is doomposting.If anything, Given the reactions of the others, I'm thinking Kiara didn't re-sign with COVER and is trying to go scorched earth.
>>114954407Subaru has been saying "I don't want to" to a sololive for like two years
>>114954441>>114954443You really expect some shitposting faggot to pay attention to anything?This Cover shill should end his life instead of getting paid minimum wage to shitpost on 4chan.>>114954450She was talking about playing the male characters off-screen for their stories.
>>114954063It will probably be a full hololive concert. You lost some "EN" representation but maybe you get micomet as a trade.
>>114954406>They're way more popular with the Jap fans than Ina is.Ina is a beloved legendary artist. She's practically a shoo-in for being a holo mama in 2 years.
>>114954491So like before? All the "EN" concerts had non-EN guests
>>114954445You sound more like a Phasekek than a Holofan. Who oshis a corpo and not the girls? Oh worse, a number? You're a minor variant of the "miko miko miko" schizo
So, what happens when Kiara does Graduate and just a day after, an English-speaking Unit is debutted?Will the fucking KFP say sorry? Also, shitposters: the mere fact that you're already dismissing the possibility of this is betraying your "partiality"
>>114954480If Kiara didn't re-up her contract why is she doing 6 year member badges?
>>114954491I'm just worried about the MC's getting dominated with Japanese now that it's not an 'English' concert.
>>114954304There's rough in the edges and then there's mira/laila who couldn't string a coherent sentence on their first few streams or collabs.They need to be at least as good as rirara or hinami at talking or streaming to debut as an actual holo talent.
It's going to be funny next year seeing the NA concert being replaced with JPs and IDs and the ticket sales drop
>>114954355Kek fucking retard. Nobody bumps every thread and starts spamming new threads when Mori is the OP image.Watch the catalog once this thread reaches bump limit.
>>114954506The non-EN guests only perform a song with other EN members before the merge. I expect the non-EN will now have to participate in the opening and ending theme, a unit song, and a solo song
>>114954510>When all the original talent is gone, will you still care?Obviously not. They expect audience churn too
>>114954523If a single EN is missing from the lineup it's dead and a PR disaster, so we'll see
Kiara is into Sean Paul?
>>114954512Gura also did them for fourth years. It's plausible deniability.
>>114954519weird worry to have. You should be more worried about EN concerts happening in Japan instead of the US.
>Kiaraschizos talking about Kiara graduating>Literally was asking chat what kind of outfit she should get next year yesterday because she has to submit ideas soon
>>114954480If this were true then Kiara took Fauna's playbook by heart and amplified it by 11, Fauna just said shit on her graduation making everyobdy else look bad, but Kiara is doing so again and again and her graduation is not even being announced, that's shitty as fuck, maybe that's why nobody else wants to contact her from Myth.
>>114954523The ticket sales will be fine. It'll sell out in like 4 hours but NA keks aren't getting any tickets. It's going to be all Japanese fans, mostly usagis and 35p, flying over and getting cavity searched by CBP on their way through LAX. Anybody who skipped Serendipity and lived in the US at the time brought this on themselves.
>>114954552I don't care about that. I've gone to 2 of them and don't really feel a need to ever attend another one irl.
>>114954480Kiara has said on pub stream her start date was in June, so contract stuff will be in March, so we will see how doomer she get's around February-April.
>>114954557>Kiara for once not shitting on Cover while talking about her garbage friends like Mint or Matara or Elira while doomposting and saying she just doesn't know how to continueNot very believable
>>114954576>I don't care about that.Then why are you complaining...?
>>114954070how is that a bad thing?
>>114954482You're either a KFP that got left behind, or a hatewatcher.Which are you?
>>114954552What would be the point? Might as well just do a mixed concert.
KIARASCHIZO COMPLETE MELTDOWN IN PROGRESS
>>114954557>Gura was talking about Fes and the Hololive cube, she said to aim for it next year and how she's excited!!>announces gradaution 1 week laterSure anon....
>>114954575the majority of JP fans aren't going to fly out to some mixed concert when they already got 10 sololives in a year and fes to save their money forwatame and mio being announced (both having sold out sololives) barely moved tickets at all
>>114954523It will be funnier if half the concert is JPs and the concert sold out.
>>114954594I don't care about being there physically. I do care about understanding the cute bits during MC's.>>114954600Why would I hatewatch anyone? What's the fucking point?
>the "anon" complaining about how Concerts in the US "will have JPs">gets exposed that he doesn't watch them."BUT MUH STREAMING" -we can see clearly, Phasekek. I really hope that Karmic energies won't ravage your pathetic corpo the next time retribution activates.
>>114954611why are you lying?
>>114954481Where are you getting this from? As far as I can remember it's the opposite?
>>114954611Reminder, fauna wormtongued gura and mumei into graduating together
>>114954566Kiara has always been an obnoxious self centered bitch since 2020 anon.This is literally business as usual for her
>>114954611Link it.Gura was fucking going "YOU'LL FOLLOW ME ANYWHERE RIGHT?? WINK WINK" during membership.
>>114953516You okay buddy?
>>114954632From SubaruShe talked about how management keeps bugging her to do one but it's too much effort for her
>>114954611Every time someone claims Fauna/Gura/Mumei were talking about future activities right before graduating and someone asks a timestamp it never gets posted
>>114954261>ONLY InaActually, Nerissa hasn't done a solo streams since before the announcement. So due to her excitement, though unlikely, maybe Nerissa too? >>114954247Nerissa and FuwaMoco are at the studio every day. Sometimes even on weekend
>>114954620of course the impossible situation would be funnier but I'm being realistic
>>114954523>America getting their own piece of HoloFes concertswhat's the downside? You literally get your ENs + extra
>>114954441Remember the HoloX-Nepolabo group live? Wasn't that shit great?Nene, Polka, Botan, Lamy, Iroha, Koyori, Laplus, Lui, you know how many of these have an average above 10k? None lmao. Name one single exclusivity that First Army has gotten over others, for this past year. I can name these exclusivities on Niji, see how Lazulight and Denauth got absolutely no merch at all while Luxiem and Noctyx got 300 dollar merch AND reruns. That's favouritism, that's stripping resources from one group to give it to another.
It will be funny :>Kiara graduates>no one cares but Promise + Myth, but her last actions made everything bitter.>she gets a reaction like Fauna's>then Ame coincidentally returns>COVER's next event reveals that they signed an Indie vtuber from Europe>It's sabaI'm praying to all the saints and Mary. PLEASE
>>114954611If Kiara was graduating she wouldn't hide it. Either on her cat account or explicitly on main.Check back next spring, when negotiations start again. If the cuts are bad she probably walks like Mumei, Fauna, and Gura.
>>114953778i mean, korone knows about south park and htf so of course
>deadbeats once again trying to Selen Kiara and running a smear campaign because they're management bootlickers
>>114954510If I thought there was a possibility of a new EN gen, I wouldn't be dooming about it.It's pretty clear to me what is happening, though. You're just either stupid or in denial.
>>114954681no I'm saying some ENs getting removed and replaced in the lineup like mori was dooming about
Holotroon melty
>>114954634Or Cover's management just sucks. Lots of JP left too
>>114954683That's not a sololive you fucking moron.
>>114954717retard
>>114954717Shiori would downright bribe a JP member to take her place during the NA concert.
>>114954717Why would Cover even drop ENs in an American concert?
>People are still Ignoring the fact that the Unit name with the most casualties is>Umisea
>>114954708Wut? This place has always hated Kiara, or at least the majority. What's funny is the flip on Mori because she became management's pet and the face of EN. Trinity posting was 75% of the posts here back in 2021
>>114954627>Why would I hatewatch anyone? What's the fucking point?So a KFP that was weirdly left behind, or are you watching her to post this thread?
>>114954738If it was year 1 shiori sure but now she has been idolpilled by Midwest lady pussy
>>114954711It's not great to doom pointlessly, but what do EN speaking Hololive fans have to look forward to now. It's sololives in Japan, and well... what's on the radar?
Everyone here should watch my oshi, chudlogic instead of vtubers.
Second Asobi to hit 70kMela
>>114954719Must be a day ending in y
>>114954740because they're retarded and have been doing retarded moves for years?
>>114954778Tsuzuri will mog Gura and Saba's subs combined by December
>>114954717They wouldn't seriously have an NA concert without Kiara, right? That's a bridge too far even for min-maxing numbers-only runts-need-not-apply Cover in 2026/7.
>114954189>114954708>another discord raidgrim
>>114954757Nah I used to be D1 Kiara hater for the shit she used to say prior to serendipity but my mind was changed by a gook in /gmd/ he posted a vid of traumatized cake and I was like nah this woman has gone through too much to be hated on
>>114954738>goes out of her way to participate in every Advent online and offline collabI'm sorry, Shiori may be a homocollaber but she'd do anything for Advent.
>>114954774Sounds awful
>>114954778why is the goat winning now? Is it because of the Ui meme?
Realistically, they don't need to replace anyone. There are only 15 ENs. That's more than enough space to throw the heavy hitter JPs in and still leave decent time for everyone.If more ENs leave slowly over time, all the better. They won't be getting replaced.
>>114954785So basically
>>114954795That's Advent, Shiori loves Advent and every member of Advent would die for Advent. But she is just so low energy during FES and the NA concert.She barely moved during FES 2025, she hung out with Biboo during AFO, and...I think that's it. To me, Shiori would gladly stay at home doing freaky art shit, maybe doing handpuppets or something.
>>114954800>nowThe goat has been winning the entire time and it's a combination of her design just being the most attractive and it being very apparently gachikoi/unicorn friendly from the onset
>>114954819>maybe doing handpuppetsWould be kino
>>114954805>New US concert gets announced >It's just Mori and Suisei>Mori goes on another hiatus because she feels disrespected >Turns out she just wants more money
>>114954819Easy. Advent is in a concert = Shiori in a concert.
>>114954768How can you tell? Is it her streaming output dropping by 90%? The usual holo death spiral.
>>114954805What if a lot of ENs leave at once?
>>114954811the first post said mori
Hint: Kiara has the most to lose if the term "HoloEN" is relegated to antiquity.Everyone Else has a claim to fame, and are either part of a Group (Advent/Justice/CCGG)Kiara leeched off everyone she can, hell, she fucking does it on a song (Gold and Blue) and it's shameless.
>>114953480They can't collab with Hololive, can they?
>>114954836I mean, every single member at this point is Gachikoi/Unicorn friendly, they haven't interacted with any Homos (ReGloss style) and they're just playing footsies with their new senpais>oh my God let's play oh my god you're chou kawaii kyaaaaa let's collab yataaaa
What is it about Kiara that makes her so hateable?
>>114954870Her entire design with the love letter is very much leaning into it was my point
>>114954846Why would this happen? Pretty much all HoloENs are comfortable other than Kiara. It won't take much to placate Mori, either.Even a decent pay raise for all the EN talent, which is obviously something Yagoo would rather not do, would still be better for their pockets than continuing to debut new ENs
>>114954800yes it's the ui design, the most mass appealing one
>>114954689Brother no one in Myth cares about her let alone anyone in promise, Mori will make a sad stream to farm fans but she's not cared in over 4 years.
Kiara didn't develop her identity past Myth "Leader" and "Lesbian sexpest" both of which, Ina and Gigi do better.
>>114954845Idk she had an aversion toward collab shit and music stuff during her first year of Holo but she is different now. It's like she is more relaxed and is able to do whatever she wants too. Plus if she was fauna or gura level of "oh I hate Japan and concert" she wouldn't be flying every 3 months to Japan to take part in some 3d live or record that many songs with advent. I mean the whole fucking gen has more ori song than myth. It says a lot anon even justice hasn't been to dish out that much stuff
>>114954866>It's just the term, bro. Everything else wjll be the same.We'll see if you're still spouting this cope 6 months from now when Asobi is long gone and there is still no new English unit.
>>114954899At this point, I associate kiara more with nimi/mint than with other holos lol.
>>114954879 she gets screechy/peaky at times. Its annoying.
>>114954689Still more likely than a 3+ hour CC solo stream.
>>114954757>Trinity posting was 75% of the posts here back in 2021Wrong fucking Trinity, 2021's trinity was Gura, Ame and Ina, you dumb, stupid idiot.
>>114954866Then wouldn't raora be most psychotic now? Because at least Kiara has le senpai role raora is just runting in the corner with no one paying attention to her
>>114954866Blue and Gold was absolutely embarrassing and in a less lenient industry like KPop she would have been forced out of the scene
>>114954866Counterpoint: She loves shitters like Mint/Nimi/Matara/Phoebe/some other indiesShe also without a doubt would love to stream as a semi fleshie instead of 100% vtubing, she already meets fans as is.
>>114954846vshojo is dead, it won't happen again.
Instead of developing her bonds with Justice, and Advent, she kept going>BUT MUH GOORAH AND AMMMMEEEE>ad infinitum.
>>114954921all of the top holos subaru peko miko all get screechy/peaky
Good to see that we still hate Kiara
>deadbeats shitting on Kiara like the good little management bootlickers they are
>>114954932because she's part of Justice. Much like Shiori is part of Advent.
Kiara speaks out against the hive and for that she must be eliminated
>>114954931I know exactly what I said you stupid fuck. Kiara's been hated since day one and Mori used to be hated until ultra-bootlickers had to kowtow because she was pushed as the head of EN. So now Mori is 'GREAT'.
If the doomers are right and we get no new English holos anymore, will Kiara be redeemed?
>Muh MoriEven Nerissa has distanced herself, the next would be Reine.
Deadbeats doing management's bidding and selening Kiara huh?
>>114954944>asked Justice to collab with her on stream>has been ignored while CC goes collabig with anything that breathes
>>114954932Raora is comfortable being an illustrator, doing outfits or illustrators for other Holos is her claim of fame.Even if Kiara wanted, she couldn't provide a service for other Holos. Her biggest talent is extrovertedness but why would any Holo pay her to talk.
>>114954978>Mori being a management cocksucker is based actually You guys are worse than nijinigs
>>114954960justice is basically just autofister, the group fans don't care that much about erb and raora
>>114954951its simply different, her voice isn't nice to hear. Subaru, Miko, and pekora's voices sound funny, Kiara's just sounds grating. Not everyone will agree, but enough do that its noticeable.Oh also her personality is too blunt, it can come off as bitchy. That's the austrian in her probably, but CC doesn't come across that way at all, and german is close enough.
>Selening>Implying Kiara had the same charisma as SelenKEK, it's really a shame that Nijiniggers are now comparing Selen to Kiara because it's really insulting....for Selen.
Deadbeat discord raid in progress trying to justify obeying management
>>114954757>this place>one obsessed 3world schizo spamming on cooldownman you're boring and your recycled shitposts are not even funny
>>114954879Do you want to unironically know? Like earnestly, 100% no bs. For me it's how she has on more than one occasion indirectly thrown shade at others or downplayed the achievements of others / made it seem like x would have been better if she had been the one doing it.
>>114954899she never claimed to be Myth leader, she always pushed that to Ame. Fan's and the other myth mems pushed calling her the speaker because she would actually read the script. Holotori was where she pushed for being center
>>114954976No, because no one can ever admit they were wrong.
>>114955004>Kiara deserves itAnd there it is. Morifags are worse than nijinigs.
>>114954999You have not seen a single CC stream where she wasn't sitting next to another holo. I can smell the LARP from a mile away
>>114954981>asked Justice to collab with her on streamAnd they did, they really did.>The last time she collabed with ERB, she ended stream like two hours in and then spent the next two hours playing with JeanWanWan and her husband>She collabed with Ceci multiple times and in most of those times she just kept acting weird about Autofister>She is currently collabing with Raora...and basically ignoring Raora's existence in order to soapbox>Her last collab with Gigi had Gigi jumping hoops to shut her up because NO ONE UNDERSTANDS HER AND EVERYONE MISUNDERSTANDS HER WORDS like we didn't just saw her defending the Homos on Twitter while they were being killed.They tried, they really tried.
>>114954932It's funny how much Raora makes you seethe
I love how any conversation about Kiara has to be interjected with mori bad because of morischizo lol
Does Mori pay you guys to run damage control for her and management or do you bootlick for free?
Not unexpected but both Japan and the West sure moved past Gura surprisingly fast, for someone who seemed to have such an impact on the medium there sure is close to no cultural memory or legacy to her she was just deemed an unnecessary footnote, massive popularity but generally low impact
>>114954999that's completely your opinion on "nice to hear" they all do the same screechingand cc does come off as bitchy, she has a whole bit about it
>>114955024Where did you get that from:>Selen and Elira have a different situation wherein Selen still mogs Elira despite being Management HERSELF.
>>114955036Bootlick jap management harder corpo shill
>>114954879she's white and wealthy while local schizo is brown and poor
>>114955051That's alot of buzzwords lol
>>114955039I never gave a shit about Gura, but EN debuts and the HoloEN brand as a whole ending after she leaves feels pretty fucking impactful.
>>114955039She was just a face, one that only showed up rarely at that. If she would have come back with any actual frequency after she had her redebut, things might have been different. Instead she was just a lazy faggot.
>>114955030>Ceci multiple times and in most of those times she just kept acting weird about AutofisterLike you guys don't want that for le epic clips and le epic self report or do the same thing in her comments, here, on Twitter ect.
>lamy overlapping myth live in the middle of the day.based?
>Muh JapaneseJapanese Company, Japanese Rules.COVER is tired of your polshit and trumpshit,burgers.
>their shitting on mori and bootlicking management quick bust out the gura posting
>>114955065How about they just fucking play Minish Cap in peace OR let Ceci talk about AutofisterIt's the same fucking problem with Ollie
>>114955039They got so angry over Gura leaving that they decided to stop hiring non Japanese speakers.
>>114955045yea, its my opinion, but its shared by many. Yours is the minority. There is an obvious difference, and if you're too dumb to see it, that's your problem.
>>114955036Kiara is an idiot, has a dwindling fanbase, and is likely going to leave in the next year or two at most.Mori has become the posterchild for some of the most retarded 'actually she's good now' posting while doing nothing but becoming the management's doormat. Literally nothing has changed about her past bending over for Jap management and people suddenly love her.
>they noticed Mori is a bootlicker start shitting on Kiara
guessing tsubasa tomorrow.
>one matured>the other still wallowed over her past.Well, shit. I wonder who I'll pick?And it's funny, because all the shitposts here seem to be affecting Kiara more.
I don't get the amount of shitpost I'm seeing here on both sides that is suggesting that Mori has been sucking management cock over the merge. She very clearly hasn't. I'd even argue she had some melties about it, just not on the same level as Kiara's.
>>114955082The only good thing about CC is that she doesn't bring up shipshit unprovoked. All of her retweets are solo art and usually when she talks about autofister cancer its because some faggot like orb spammed her Chat to bait her into it.But my point is the same, I know your kind you're all like orb. You want the slop but you hound Kiara for it. You're hypocrites
>>114955090God you're pathetichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEKvUtvVVUw
>>114955030her CC collab was great
>>114955119lmao fuck off
Kiara is retarded but a lot of you assign extra malice than some of her actions actually warrant and project your feelings about Kiara towards other holos. You can easily tell the difference between in criticism by someone who actually watched Kiara and someone who's actually playing telephone with this threads criticisms and just repeating what they read in threads
>>114955075I thought there was a no-overlap within branches rule. Only ID gets a pass for overlapping since they stream exclusively for SEA in Bahasa Indonesian and don't share a box.
>>114955114yep, the whole "No more EN Gens" is a Phasecuck creation.And because Kiara is "LE REBEL" she'd be more succeptible to being exploited by phaseshit antis.So whenever Kiara egosearches.... She'll gravitate towards the "I am le voice of le people" not realizing she's just some pawn by the Phaseshits.
>>114955119ngl that orb guy needs to fuck off
>>114954969You are a great example of why /vt/ went to shit.>Trinity posting was 75% of the posts here back in 2021The archive is a mere few clicks away, ready to disprove you.Grudgepost me.C'mon. Grudgepost me.
>>114955089by who deaf people?if you're going to bring up viewers they also mog everyone else that doesn't have high pitch voices
>>114955139Accept you're a second class citizen that doesn't even have an official class anymore, ENshart
>>114955120Aww poor baby hates being called out. Her cadence and general demeanor in collabs and solo hasn't changed whatsoever, the only difference is instead of sitting around playing with her offline friends like trash taste, she's playing nice with management and trying to get as much as she can out of Holo.
>>114953443If they don't get at least 150k it's an absolute flop. They're the first new gen in ages and have everyone advertising them. They should at least beat vivi's 3D or hololive is dying even in Japan.
>>114955060HoloEn was always going to cease to exist, not only did it make no sense to keep them as an international group when there are other non "international" members who are more popular overseas, but the market shrank to such a degree that activities planned specifically for western audiences were going to inevitably become less and less profitable/popular, making everything just Hololive makes it so the more popular JP branch can tank the diminished income coming from the less popular EN/IDs, and allow for the money allocated to international promotion to go those who are actually popular overseas, so Pekora can get western deals instead of fucking ERB who was first in line just because she belonged to the international groupKiara and Ina had to share a 1k venue, while Nene a far less popular holo can fill on her own an 8k hall, even if not outright failed the scale of both projects were massively different and Cover is REALLY in the mood for chop heads, had EN continued their existence they would have gotten the same treatment the homos got, by rolling everything together the super strong JP market saved EN from meeting the same fate the males did
>Being professionalvs>Being an unhinged source of unnecessary dramaMorischizo, everyone.
>>114955110
>>114955147>yep, the whole "No more EN Gens" is a Phasecuck creation.Nah, cover would dispel doubts about this if it weren't the case. They're keeping the lack of information going because it's by design. They are clearing their hands from having to debut more non-JPs
>>114954720Except they confirmed they decided on it as a groupAnd we all know the real reason the jolly green grifter left
>>114954683>Nene, Polka, Botan, Lamy, Iroha, Koyori, Laplus, Lui, you know how many of these have an average above 10k? None lmaoActually Lamy, Botan and Laplus all have an average above 10k for 2026 so far.
>>114955177>pretending that YAGOO's follow-up never exists.Yep. Phasefag is retarded, and grass is green.
>>114955156She hasn't changed!...but she has changed!
>>114955177You're genuinely retarded
>>114954689I'll be waiting for the guerilla stream from Nerissa immediately after the graduation, personally. Those are always funny.
>>114955172its just selenfag with another mask
>>114955177...but they fucking did
>>114955147"no more EN gens" is a cover creation by getting rid of the EN name and debuting 2 japanese speaking gens in a row after 2 years
>>114955177>Nah, cover would dispel doubts about this if it weren't the case.They never ever ever did before, their answer was always vague and non descript
The new hololive unit is crazy
>>114955149/#/ loves him. He's essentially the same but on Twitter.
>>114955171Don't know about you, but I'd prefer a completely separate HololiveEN that is not mentioned anywhere else but still gets 4 debuts every year than this dead branch getting merged in with no more debuts.
Your favorite girls fightinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6jTL0cMgzIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6jTL0cMgzIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6jTL0cMgzI
>>114954976getting new English speaking holos doesn't mean EN members will not be sidelined or maybe they will only invest in new girls holoX style
>>114954740Why would cover debut homos?Or go 3+ years between English speaking talent debuts?Or do half of the stupid shit they've ever done?Because they're retardedThe only reason they succeed is because their talent scouting is good (fauna aside)
Protip: They can't manipulate Mori to "Yab" anymore, that's why the Eliraposting happened.But they can absolutely amplify Kiara's doomposting because Kiara is a dumbass who never learned. And I'm saying this as polite as possible.
Most of them release normal versions of their albums. I checked briefly and these were the ones I found that didn't:- Roboco 1st album. Maybe felt pressured to recover costs as she has the smallest fanbase in Hololive.- Baelz 2nd album. Heavily in debt from MV production and stuff. A bit disappointing but understandable. I feel Bae wouldn't do this if she felt she had another option financially.- Fuwamoco 1st album. Always wanted to be idols where these kinds of tactics are normalized. I'm not surprised.Not a single one will profit from making their albums. They won't sell enough. You could argue whether this is actually the best way to go about things. Unless you write your own music, only a handful of members (being generous) are popular enough where they can profit off of music. The rest are paying to be idols.Like you have to realize how small they are musically. Baelz has fewer monthly listeners on Spotify than HACHI. Have you heard of HACHI? Probably not, and she's probably the biggest small corpo VSinger in Japan. Baelz is arguably a smaller artist than that and this is with a big hit in Snake Eyes.
>>114955187>>114955193>>114955203>>114955207Uh oh meltieWill you still be coping that we're totally getting a new EN gen when that still hasn't happened 6 months after Asobi's debut? Or will you finally get the message by then?
>Kiara shitting on Loki the tv show
>>114954870I can't fucking wait for the rugpull
>>114955250Please go ahead and tell me any of them will homocollab with a literally dead and forgotten branch
>>114955033What I mean is these fags keep saying Kiara is dooming because of the whole merger thing while she has said multiple times it's only the tip of the thing she is annoyed with like a catalyst. The main issue no one really knows other than Kiara and management
>>114955244>Not a single one will profit from making their albums. They won't sell enough.You’re overestimating the cost of releasing an album. Even if they had to press them ahead of time (they don’t) and got stuck with half the run (they won’t) they can make production costs back in online sales easily
>>114954866He really said >Justice
>>114955245Why did you reply to me? I agree with you we won't be getting more mainly English speaking holos.
>>114955156I ain't reading your schizobabble retard
>>114955139No-overlap rule is for when there is merch involved
>>114955245I would absolutely LOVE to see one, two, even three new EN only gens released as quickly in succession as possible. With that said if in six months zero new EN girls debut nothing significant changes for me.
>>114955245There will be no more new ENsharts and that is a good thing
So its what, just Kiara thats dooming every stream? Does that make the IDs bootlickers for not continuing dooming as well?
>>114955220Lol, what made you think that if it had not been for the merge that more EN units were on their way? ID hasn't gotten shit in years, and JP who regularly see far more success with their gens has also been spacing them out more and more, they don't want more girls man, specially not for branches that are seen as less profitable there's 3 >>114955185 ENs in the top 30, and even for the less popular JP girls they got far easier ways to make a profit out of them because making a small cafe collab or even throwing a smaller live is a million times easier than it is for an EN The merge changed nothing, it's a simple as the fact that doing anything for EN, be it lives/new debuts/whatever require it to be 10x more profitable than it would be for JP, and that's just no the case anymore
this thread really loves larping as holofans
>>114955030>she ended stream like two hours in and then spent the next two hours playing with JeanWanWan and her husbandThat one was a really weird thing to do. It was a collab with ERB and Shiori. Kiara mentioned that those 2 used to check up on her but they didn't even message her during her melty. I guess her inviting jeanwanwan and her husband directly after their collab soured their relationship
>>114955291IDs ARE bootlickers for stop complaining after getting some bare crumbs that management should've given them beforeIt's like stop complaining about the government just because they finally fixed the road in your neighborhood
Every complaint about kiara I always see sounds like some roastie foid complaining which us why I write most of it off
>>114955327Why did I ever have faith in cover to give me EN5? I deserve to be disappointed.
>>114955254Oh right, I forgot they can just go suck off any other male and it's conveniently excused because it's not the homos :^)
>>114955039>fastshe was barely a presence since the second half of 2022 first half a year you had fans demanding answers but over time they had to give up
>>114955245Sure faggot and gura will graduate in two weeksGo apologize to whoever taught you english
>>114955343i still don't know how this thread can act worse than twittertroons discussing about ships
Funny how kfps keep saying no one likes Kiara because they didn't comment on her melty, yet she didn't even bother saying anything about an MV that directly featured her
>>114955327I treat Hololive not getting new ENs as the equivalent of HoloEN losingEven shitter companies debut new English speaking girlsCover turned off the English debuts before other far less successful companies did
>>114955343most of it comes with 0 proof as well so...
this place write more fiction than /wg/
>>114955387>>114955401You say that, but have you seen the shit thrown at theothers? Its definitely not exclusive to Kiara
>>114955327Based accurate /#/ effortpost explaining why ENSHARTS are dead kek
this place has more cuck obsession than /vcuck/
I found an interesting sitehttps://logs.holofun.net/
>>114955039Anon? People latched on the hope of getting Gura back from Feb 2022 when she took her foot off the gas and started coasting and cherished her every appearance all the way into early 2025, when it became clear that she was not going to return to form. There is a reason her graduation announcement got 200k+ but her actual graduation didn’t beat that stream: it was a book closure, the announcement, after that people finally was able to put her back and cherish what she had been but only in a nostalgic sense.
>>114955396We're just making sure our current talents are supported, it's what you (reddit/twitter) asked for, to stop debuting!
Is the biggest winner from no new English speaking holos Nimi? Unironically.She'd have gone into the low 2k average if we got a new gen.
>>114955420no one is saying that
>>114955445>She'd have gone into the low 2k average if we got a new gen.Source: My ass
>>114955435>open site>dead homo on my screenfuck you
>>114955435>opens it>the first thing on the screen is a fucking homo. and a dead one by that
Just because all holos are holo now that doesn't stop Yagoo's international growth plans.There will still be units speaking EN. Or even ID. Or ES or KR or whatever.
Arsenalkeks status?
>>114955464he recooked the "once advent/justice debuts the other holos are finished"
>>114955445This is why kiara hates the new direction
>>114955435MIKO FUBUKI LOVE
>>114955479Except the koreans refuse to be koreans. You will never get the secret koreans sub unit
>>114955485It's good to be the keKING
>>114955336that wasn't there last collab Squirreled Away was the last they did anything together. Shiori hung out with Kiara after the concert till a bunch of ID showed up and dipped.
>>114955445Nimi getting to comfortably and safely live in the 4view zone is the worst part of no new ENs
>>114955387the twittertroons are in this thread, don't you see all the random 2 likes tweets being posted
>>114955479It's pretty likely that all new debuts will speak Japanese, so you will get a bunch of hafu bilinguals living in Japan, who will all end up speaking 90% of the time in Japanese because that's the biggest audience and getting into HoloJP evens will do far more for your career than doing the same for EN ones, that don't ever happen in the first place
>>114955479You're retarded if you actually believe this.See >>114955327
>>114955435>Minecraft is the most streamed game for most holo (excluding Advent and Justshit)The backbone of Hololive
Next bake>>114955414>>114955414>>114955414>>114955414
graduation coded song
>>114955479Yes, anon, now that cover has officially ended the brand for the lesser performing units, surely they will still be debuting units for those non-existing brands with a confusing messaging. Totally.You interested in a bridge I'm selling btw?
>>114955333Oh, come now Anon, Even the most mentally unwell poster from anywhere in the world knows there aren't any genuine Holo fans here.Hell, look at /hlgg/ here... to call it a graveyard is an insult./vg/'s /hlgg/ gets more attention for fucks sake!
>>114955445she's already averaging 4k dropping from 15k, any lower would be very sad
>>114955479That tweet and the minimal English we'll hear from the orange one on debut and within the first few weeks (to try and get more EOP to look at her) will be all we get. May happen a few more times in the next 3-5 years.
>>114955336>random schizo theoryKiara wanted to end before jean messaged her out of the blue, it's not like either Shiori or ERB would have a problem with something like that ERB plays with her non-holo friends on Twitch like every week
>>114955592Well yeah, we can doxxpost all we want on /vg/ kekIt's fucking great
>>114954755and Kaela is person that has most holofes songs with graduating members.
>>114955473 I even forgot pizzahomo already graduated kek
>>114955609she will slowly go lower without a box and by breaking her consistency during pregnancy etc.
>>114955609Would be based as fuck and now it won't happen cause cover is greedy
>>114955291IDs have bitched about not getting nendos or concerts or whatever despite most of them outside of kaela streaming the bare minimum, causing pointless drama and nonstop homo collabing for years.
Their most recent EN focused unit was a complete flop compared to the previous one, which has now all moved to Japan to do more Japanese content. There's no world where any more EN focused talents let alone a full gen are even planned let alone released. The door isn't closed because maybe they get some crazy huge VA or influencer that for some reason wants to join and bring their audience but barring a drastic change there's no financial incentive at all to put any more money into EN when they barely can justify the current spend.
>>114955479I don't care what language they speak. I care that ex-JP (location) holos are getting fuck-all in funding.How does Yagoo expect anything good to happen if the talents have to pay for everything while also getting a 75% cut taken out of their grocery budget.
>>114955672I hope northernlions wife convinces her to bring randon on for a double date stream after she gets knocked upHe'll have to show by then, sonce it'd be real awkward if he suddenly has a babbling baby in the background
>>114955696So that's it? Nimi just wins?
>>114955632it also wasn't the last time the 3 collabed, and those collabs rarely go over 2 hours. was odd that she did just go play off stream with Jean
>>114955706Nimi has refused to stream with NL despite him being her idol. And it'a literally Nimi refusing, not NL.
>>114955712Wins what? The ever-shrinking EN fanbase? Wow, what a win!
>>1149555572026 is lacking minecraft, that's why it's so grim these days
>>114955534>It's pretty likely that all new debuts will speak JapaneseThis is already your headcanon
>>114955696proof of all this?
>>114955712EN vtubing as a whole is dying, so no. She'll be a flesh streamer too in a year or two
>>114955726No, she doesn't win that. The former HoloENs do.But she wins the safety of a consistent fanbase for as long as she streams cause there's no new ENs coming to bite her shit off.
If Kiara was here she would be really sad about this thread
>>114955738You refusing to see the truth that has been planted right before you doesn't mean the rest of us will play along with your delusions
>>114955764good
>>114955754Yeah, she had a more stable fanbase than Dooby and Saba.
>>114955739Look at their YouTube subs and views for starters
>>114955754The 'formerly known as HoloEN' talents already had the ever-shrinking fanbase. They didn't need to fight/win anything.>>114955789And what of the new Japanese members? Wanna talk about their subs too?
>>114955738Retard
>>114955783Ironic.
>>114955754a tiny stable fanbase is not a win, all the holos don't just automatically lose their fans after the merge
>>114955245Cover has already stated their goals for an International scope. Naming North America as one of the key regions they're aiming for. Guess what the common language in North America is? English. Guess what group of talents they'll push there? EnglishCover has acknowledged that there are cultural differences between regions and they'll use talents more familiar with the regions to boost the name "Hololive". Not HoloEN, not HoloID, just Hololive. You're just going through high effort to be retarded when it's already been explained
>>114955754I'm not convinced Nimi would have lost fans from new ENs anyways. The cucklings that are left are loyal.
>>114955642Sure Queen, you can doxxpost all you want.But do the /vg/ audience care? It seems they don't.
>>114955721she didn't plan it and was a little inconvenient with chassis being there too, not sure why spin some weird narrative around it though.
>>114955813Yeah, they'll be higher than justice by the end of the year
>>114955831ya and that says nothing about hiring new english speakers when they can just use the current ones
>>114955831cover will be trying to spread their Japanese talents to the world the same way Hatsune Miku tours globallyThis is a change in how the international focus works. They don't need to hire new specialized lower performing talent for it.
>>114955754>the safety of a consistent fanbase>lose halft of them after the LLDvery consistent indeed
>>114955741Nimi is never going to be a fleshtuber lmao. She doesn't even go to conventions in person.
>>114955831Suisei is the most popular holo in NorthAmerica and she does not speak English. You do not need English speaking holos in order to get popular anywhere in the western sphere of influence, Ado, is more popular than Hololive as a whole with her grade school level English.
>>114955874Yeah, and she's have lost 4 fifths of what she has now if new ENs kept debuting nowBut they won't.That's the whole point of the conversation.
>>114955886lollmaoyou got some numbers to backup your fantasies?
>>114955789>subscome on...>viewsaside from ERB they're doing almost the same
>>114955831This is such a sad cope.>SURE, THE BRANDS WILL BE DEAD, BUT THEY WILL STILL BE ACTING AS IF THE BRANDS ARE STILL A THING BECAUSE... BECAUSE THEY JUST WILL, OK?
>>114955897>But they won't.proof?
>>114955831You don't need to speak English. All the people who are into anime, jpop, kpop, Japanese vtubers are going to go to concerts even if the talent doesn't speak English. You don't see people boycotting Suisei, kpop band, Ado because they barely speak English. No, they are the biggest acts and most popular brands in the West. People don't want some western woman pretending to be Japanese. They want actual talented Japanese idols and acts.
>>114955904Is this ID's most watched gaming stream?
>>114955914You're retarded and refuse to take their own words at face value. You WANT EN to be history and for them to never hire more EN people for a future EN unit.Your retard ass dream won't come true though, phasetard.
>>114955831This ENshart still doesn't realize he's dead. Poor soul.
>>114955764Oh nyooo~
>>114955738Mori said she expects more English speakers some day even without the branch
>>114955886>>114955918kek no one cares about ado in america
>>114955764she wouldn't care
got pulled up to mic in the justice pub quiz and didn’t know the question (raviolins canon duo name) and they make me sing as a batsu and so i go ‘i cant sing im so hungover-‘ and goes ‘Oh I Saw.’I FEEL LIKE A TEENAGER GETTING CAUGHT BY THEIR MUM COMING IN DRUNK HELPPPP >this is the current state of justchadsWhen even the self proclaimed biggest fans don't even know what raviolin is it's clear why hololive considers EN a lost cause. They don't even watch streams they're just all larpers.
>>114955831Your leap of logic is here:>Guess what the common language in North America is? English. They will be promoting all their talents from now on. Maybe teach them to sing (not speak) English. That is their direction when they killed EN as a brand. You just pretend not to see it.
this thread really is like going to the zooThe same dumb animals shitting all over the place
>>114954689bro gura is so mentally ill she streams even less as indie it's crazylet it go
>>114955964It was funny seeing that bingo thing on twitter and how many people have never watched a single full stream
>>114955937No, her literal words were>If... I mean, when we get new English speakersAnd>I'd like to think we will get more English speakers one dayAh, yes. She would LIKE to think that.She is not dumb. She sees the same writing on the wall we do.
>>114955925Yes but that was before Jewtube culled everyone's ccv. 34 000 was kind of low at the time.
>>114955980Thankfully the new thread is much more peaceful.
>>114955951She sold out a 27k venue in LA and had over 100,000 attendees at the us stops for her tour last year.
>>114955965>Maybe teach them to sing (not speak) Englishkek
>>114955992That was really bad and eye opening. The square was just watching A SINGLE STREAM IN FULL. How the fuck do you have an oshi mark and make being a fan your entire online personality without watching even a single stream? What the fuck.
What is it about Minecraft that just brings the worst out of people? It isn’t even a vtubing thing it’s everyone who’s ever touched the game.
>>114954778I'm surprised mera is not 1st desugoat girl doesn't look that interesting but her twitter game + UI looks are carrying I guess
>>114955915literally just look at what they're debuting right now, another fucking JP gen they betrayed all EN fans by killing EN after all the support we gave
>>114956048You're such a pathetic shitposter. I really hope you don't expect anyone to take you seriously.
>>114955575how can she graduate when she's forever in debt now LMAO
>>114955980ENsharts were a mistake after all.
>>114956048the only thing that proves is that the new gen's will be 4 people from now on
>>114955867>>114955886You're the one making the claim that "Cover isn't going to hire an EN gen anymore" and my explanation directly counters your claim. They can also debut new talents just like they did with JP. If we follow your logic, and let's say we exist in a time where ASOBI MAWARI-TAI wasn't announced, would you say Cover has stopped trying to hire JP gens. Because the wait between Flow Glow and the new gen is 2 years just like the wait between Justice and a new EN gen is 2 years. I'll ask again. Would you say Cover has given up on a new JP gen in that hypothetical scenario?>>114955873Miku is a single individual and marketed as such. Hololive is marketed as a conglomerate of talents. This is just a shit attempt to say they're the same just because of a superficial similarity>>114955914You're the one making the assumption without any explanations. My explanation clearly holds more weight than yours. Also you're using the same circumstances that Flow Glow had prior to ASOBI as an explanation for why EN isn't getting another gen even though those exact same circumstances contradict your claim. Read the first part of my post and answer the question posed there
>>114955851I didn't say she planned it. I said the arc collab was not the last time Kiara, ERB and Shiori collabed.
>>114955873Crazy why people don't seem to understand this. They don't want to hold an 'EN' concert, they want to hold a Holo concert where the lowest performing EN's won't be allowed because they want to push Holo as a full brand instead of segmenting the fanbases into classifications. The dumb thing about it is that if they keep taking more and more of the English talent out of the concerts in NA, they'll 100% see a loss in attendance. People go to this shit because their favorite streamer is doing it. The fraction of people in the west who will go just because there's a show, especially if it requires flights and hotels, is pretty small. Idol shit isn't popular in the west.
>>114956067you're not japanese SEAmonkey
>>114956085I've always said 4 people is better. Tons of games are 4 player or 2 v 2 5 is really rare
So are they just ignoring brand consistency and not updating hololive dreams? It still shows references to the now non existent EN, ID, dev is. They can't even get the simple things right with this integration how much else are they messing up?
>>114956093They released 2 jp gens since the last ENthat has never happened since ENs creation
>>114956032That's just nijinigger things
>>114956097You don't have any proof for your claims and you just want to be retarded lol
>>114956048Support to whom? None of your cumrags stream nor care about (You). Management also need to beg first army like Pekora to produce an event catered to EN, just to have mediocre views because ENsharts never watch streams, only watch clips and whine on twitter.
>>114956097Especially when frankly most of the talents are dog shit performers. No one is going to go see some random Japanese girl that can barely hold a note but they will go see the person they have seen speaking their language in clips and streams. Unless every concert everywhere is just going to be Suisei and other holo singers repeated forever I don't get how they will even have western concerns.
>>114956093>the wait between Flow Glow and the new gen is 2 years just like the wait between Justice and a new EN gen is 2 years>what is mekparkgo count how many holos stream in JP hours and how many holos stream in EN hours retard they're literally abandoning the EN market after all we did for them
>>114956122they also released two homo gens after Council
>>114956097you lost napling
>>114956152 No one has proof of anything you dipshit. The only thing we know directly is that they want uniform branding for all talents. That's it.
>>114955980no... NO!You simply don't see that letting monkeys wipe their shit over everything is actually a good thing!Where else are you going to get such robust, enlightening discussions about cuckoldry, a pointless discussion about which line graph went higher than the other and who is or isn't another mentally unwell frequent poster of this thread?!?
>>114956161and? those are EN too not jp
>>114956183>they want uniform branding for all talentsAnd yet in their flagship mobile game they can't be bothered to add that uniform branding because they know it's retarded.
>>114956102police woman erotic
>>114956183We have proof of Yagoo and Cover saying they have big plans for their global expansion from not even long ago.You have nothing but feces in your eyes from watching too much phase.
>>114954088Do the girls they're hiring now have a lot of streaming experience?
>>114956197>those are EN toothose are homos, doesn't matter if they're EN or JP
>>114956201Global expansion for HOLOLIVE.They got rid of the naming convention so people don't go 'shouldn't this be an EN side of things?' or 'Why is there an ID in this JP concert'.
>>114956223tell that to omega
>>114956122Justice and Flow Glow debuted in the same year. Meaning they both have similar wait times between their gens>>114956160Notice how you're running off from the original claim you made you knuckle dragging retard. I asked a very specific question that you're running from. Actual shit for brains lol>>114956183>No one has proof of anything you dipshitAnd yet you're going so hard fighting for the most negative interpretation? Hmmmmm. So when I ask you to give proof NOWWW there's no proof for anything. Ogey kek
>>114956227No one asked that to begin with. And no, they literally talked about more than that. There will absolutely be more EN hires. Having an "EN" in the name or not has zero bearing on whether or not hololive as a giant umbrella can house people speaking all kinds of languages.
>>114956097>they want to hold a Holo concert where the lowest performing EN's won't be allowedEven if this were true who would be at risk? Kiara is a great MC and performer
>>114956250What is negative about my interpretation? I don't get why fags get so pissy about everything
>>114956232omega is dead beggar, literally the reason why the merge happened in the first place
>>114956255easiest grudgepost of my life
>>114956255I can quite honestly guarantee that any new 'EN' hires will be people that live in Japan and speak Japanese but are able to do at least basic English. There's 0 chance they are hiring any more western talents who don't live in Japan or speak JP. They've made that abundantly clear with how they're essentially forcing every existing EN talent to move to Japan or suffer.
>>114956276>They've made that abundantly clear with how they're essentially forcing every existing EN talent to move to Japan or suffer.Okay Kiara, you're being hysterical again.
can we get back to the single timeloops? is tiring looking at all those wall of texts go to AO3
>>114956269Oh please. You and the other faggots will go around replying to everyone who says there'll be a new EN gen saying>EN is dead>No new EN debutsDon't go around acting like a pussy now when I actually push you for proof when Cover's direct public statements and the circumstances for Flow Glow and ASOBI contradict that
>>114956271ya but at the time he was in charge and treated them as a real EN gen debut for 2022 that was supposed to match luxiems bots
>>114956288 (me)*simple timeloops
>>114956293Hololive is no longer bound by labels and titles like that. That's all there is. The guys saying NEVER EVER are wrong, but so are you for saying 'YES THEY WILL'.
An official management approved fangame JOBBED
>>114956288No you must hear anons fanfiction about bullshit he made up
>>114956328Why is the title card a basic powerpoint slide
I just ran the number, and....Its not looking good...
Imma a sex haver.
>>114956372probably with men
>>114955136>A literal adYou just know that picture was management trying to shoehorn their manufactured ship. Ceci most likely never even installed the game.
>>114956302omega's feelings or how he treated them dont matter, especially when they were never included in any holoEN events
>>114955993Nothing said about the merger was all that reassuring ID members are sort of fucked because their market was always shit I don't see why would they just give up on EN though, shareholders constantly push them to expand.
>>114956361The game gives you generic grass, desert, snow levels even though the zombie theme hands out tons of ideas. You really can't expect quality here.
>>114956102Clara would never agreed to be police
>>114956409>why would they just give up on EN thoughbecause that's what nijisanji did
A week has passed and not a single Hololive member of any branch has lost one single point of CCV and not a single Phase, Ligger or Niji has gained one.So I don't know what the fuck are we doing.
>>114956328Jesus christ, 2 ATH basically means the dev played it and no one else. And people say holo indie is a seal of any quality at all, kek. It's easy as fuck to get.
>>114956328what the hell is thisand why is this $1, should be free like Miko in Magma
>>114954273Proof?
>>114956437You can thank both Kiara for needless dooming and being menhera as fuck and phaseniji tards for jumping on that chance to act like her word is truth and hololive is imploding with this administrative change
Stop being mean to phasetards you are being goaded by naplings
>>114956117feels like the consolidation or whatever you call it was rushed, not much discussion internally with the talents either.
>>114954097Anon while she might be doomposting it wouldn't be a shock if Hololive did the merge so they could heavily market the JP talents. On a cynical level that is the obvious reason for the merge since there is a much lower chance of the JP talents graduating and the JP management will start throwing JP talents into all the of the English language marketing.>>114954523>It's going to be funny next year seeing the NA concert being replaced with JPs and IDs and the ticket sales dropCover is a Japanese corporation they unironically would blame the EN fans for not buying tickets and would never even considering that they did anything wrong. Mori also talked about a World Tour type concerts so there might not even be a major English language concert in 2027 but a few smaller concerts. There is less risk with a 2000 seat venue compared to a 6000 seat venue.
apparently this Fire Emblem is the worst in the series and japs on 5ch and twitter have been non-stop bashing it for the past 3 days
>>114956327Oh fuck off. You just want to smuggle in baseless premises. If you're going to make absolute claims, I'm going to counter you on an absolute level. Unlike the other retarded claim, I can actually back my claim with real statements from Cover with explanations.You just want to make it a split possibility to imply your claim has grounds when that's not the case. Even if we aren't certain, my explanation has a stronger anchor
>>114956478Utter retard write 5000 words on why that is bad
>>114956485>9.0 user scoreI doubt it
>>114956437The best part about this post is that you could go back to the week this cesspit of a board was made and the point of>So I don't know what the fuck are we doing.Is still true.
>>114956505I just saw the post compilationsI haven't played a FE since the Gameboy Advance
Oh good lord
>>114956485Fire Emblem is a bad franchise for brain damaged women Japs would have strong opinions on it
>>114956302>>114956406If EN fanbase actually accepted homos as hololive and gave them holo-tier numbers merger would never happen, holopro EN would be it's own niji-style brand.
>>114956527If there is one thing I fucking loathe it's the incessant need of retards to do this whole "family tree" garbage. Every single time. It's not even exclusive to vtubers.>lol who's the mom and dad and the daughter and the sister and the lover xd
>>114956551so true homosis
>>114956502Right, so you're just being optimistic while they're being pessimistic. There is NO proof of any future, other than some half-hearted 'we won't abandon you NA!'. What does that look like? We have no idea.
>>114956596Like I said already>You just want to make it a split possibility to imply your claim has grounds when that's not the case. Even if we aren't certain, my explanation has a stronger anchor
>>114956596The people being "optimistic" (I'd call it realistical) have literal statements from Yagoo and Cover talking about their global growth strategies and their plans to grow in the western/EN esports and gaming sphere through new hires and so on.You have nothing for your "pessimistic" side. That's the point.
>>114956556The TakaMori tree with Kobo was cute but then Kobo decided to do this family gimmick with Blue Homo and now it's not that cute
>>114956502>my explanation has a stronger anchorDoes it though? They just got rid of the entire brand and talents are dooming left and right about there being no more actual EN concerts. Mori doing that is one thing but even FUWAMOCO were and they're basically never one to criticize anything cover does. Like you said we won't know until it actually happens but I don't really see any reason to think EN is on the upswing right. Outside of the sololives in Japan, what has been better this year for the branch compared to the previous ones?
>>114956609>nothingWhat do you call still not debuting more EN girls for 2 years in a row when they're now down to 10 people?
>>114956556The annoying part is that ASOBI hasn't even debuted yet and yet these retards already want to confine them to some retarded shipping box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KxkqV1oeLI
>>114956609>Through new hiresNow look who's making shit up
>>114956638A coincidence. They wanted to slow down for a while and focus on strengthening the existing JP, EN and ID by not hiring more into those three branches. Which they did. dev_is was not JP7, they were music focused units with a different approach and the designs being much more based in realism and "normal human" style.
Imagine if the little purple girl has a deeper voice than the orange policewoman
>>114956609>literal statements from Yagoo and Cover talking about their global growth strategiesThey said that in 2024 and earlier. In case you didn't notice it's 2026 almost 2027 now and nothing has gotten better outside of them eliminating all EN and ID branding entirely. They're just making shit up for shareholders. They also said that holoearth was a critical part of their future and look where that is now. I don't understand why you think what they say is any indication of anything when they should only be judged on actions.
>>114956485Took them long enough to notice.
These two are fighting already
Forgot the pic >>114956822
>My opinion hasn't changed by the way. People say it can't be changed and it is what it is - yeah in fact it can't be changed and it is what it is, but I still don't think it's okay, they will never make me think that it's okay, I will never think that's okay. Never. I will always think it's stupid and just.... pleasing shareholders. Because of statistics. Probably.>And I don't think it was worth the sacrifice. That will forever be my stance. And I'm not gonna be like "let's wait and see" because it's way too big of a step to take to just then wait and see.>If EN concert turns into some kind of like "Hololive Concert" with like... We always had guests but let's say it's more balanced than this, like the Japanese one. Well, that's nice too but our thing will be gone. It will not be our thing anymore. And I think the EN community was very proud and wholesome and we had something there. I thought it was really special for us.>Yeah ID too. They'll never get a concert again. It's depressing. They've worked their asses off for years. For what?>It can't all be about numbers. But... it is. To a business. Unfortunately. That's so sad. There should be some... Some creativity and passion should remain. Some openness to explore and innovate.>Yeah yeah... Public stuff. Public trading, public whatever.
>>114956627>Does it though?YES. Because I'm using actual statements from Cover and Cover has already acknowledged the limitations of trying to market JP in the West. That's why they use ENOh my God here. Here an actual primary statment>hololive English (hololiveEN): COVER Corp., Ltd. has been implementing a strategy to reach out to potential customers overseas by localizing hololive content (making it available in local languages), and we are doing the same for English-speaking countries. Since YouTube now has a total subscriber "population" of about 2 billion users as of November 2020, we believe that one of our main tasks, namely subtitling archived videos, is very important as a means of acquiring overseas fans.>However, from a long-term perspective, this alone will limit the spread of our content and gradually weaken its influence. I was in charge of localization right after I joined the company, and in order to solve this problem, one day I suggested to President Tanigo that we should localize the entire hololive content itself. This is what led to the establishment of the current hololive English.Cover knows they have cultural nerfs in certain aspects of the world and they'll use ID/EN to establish footholds in those regions. Cover named North America as a key region and since Cover already acknowledges the limitations for JP talents, they'll just use EN
why do you waste time with disingenuous retards? when they debut a new english group they won't care that they made you spend months arguing about it never happening.
EN5
>>114956875(me)Also Mori already said there are still going to be EN exclusive events and Ina talked about cultural limitations for JP corpos in her merger explanation
>>114956551>holopro EN would be it's own niji-style brand.And I thank each and every God who ensured this never came to pass.
>>114956875>what they sayMeanwhile what they're doing is not debuting any ENs or IDs and also letting them all stream in non-EU/EN friendly times>>114956894>when>still believes there's a new EN gen coming
>>114956905She did not all mori has said is that she HOPES and EXPECTS there to be english exclusive events but she has received no guarantee from cover
https://x.com/sorashina_sopia/status/2101361209023021309Sopia grooming Su
>>114956638Thats not how it works, HoloEN lost 5 members in 6 years so when theres no new members for 6 more years they will be down to 10
>>114956916So you'd rather EN killed and dead like it is now
>>114954879She's like Cristiano Ronaldo, but it's not as fun to watch her fails as his
>>114956959nta but yeah unironically, better "dead" that merged with homos (actual death)
>>114956917I'm using primary sources whilst you're just a retard in the thread going "nuh uh". So clearly my argument has more seasoning than yours. Keep crying>>114956929Mori explicitily and definitively said there'll still be EN exclusive events. Same with Ina
>>114956929Don't argue with the guy, it's not worth it.
>>114956854Again you can post as many green text fan fiction unless you share the timestamp or the clip of the stream in catbox because no one will take your shit seriously other than kiaraschizo if you arent him already
>>114956996Your primary sources mean jackshit when the only primary source you have is a lying corpo
>>114957001>crying after getting btfo because all he can do is go "nuh uh"
Su is grooming sopia
why did justice having 4 vtubers cause so much shitposting when advent and now asomawatai didnt?
>>114957009All you can do is cry and I love it. Keep on going "nuh uh" like the retard you are lololol
It's funny that not a single member of EN even knows if enreco is ever happening again
>>114956894>why do you waste time with disingenuous retards?Maam, if we didn't, this thread would have no purpose.>when they debut a new english group they won't care that they made you spend months arguing about it never happening.Again, this cesspit of a thread serves no other purpose other than to argue about pointless drama. The less evidence you have on a subject, the better. Provided you can post in all caps and have two or three people repeat your nonsense for a 24 hr period
>>114956427niji still keeps the corpse of EN branch
Entertain the thought that we might never get an EN gen again, or far more likely, it will take more months or a year for one to show up, do you think ERB deserved her spot over anyone else?Is the EN talent pool that dry?
>>114957058there's a reason the post count on this piece of shit board goes down every month and its only kept on life support by schizos spending 12 hours a day posting here
>>114957051They dont think an EN only concert will ever happen again but Im sure some retard will post something from 2023 as if real companies don't change their guidance and plans every fucking quarter let alone years.
>>114957071and yet no lazulight merch
>>114956437how is this about CCV?
>>114957078>ERB deserved her spot over anyone elseYes because out of everyone in Justice she probably its what cover's ideal employee is. She is willing to do a ton of voice work, is an amazing singer and promotes unity across the entire brand. She doesn't cause drama, doesn't bitch about being overworked, doesn't cater to retarded gachikoi or anything.
>>114957040>They did the same with COVER USA, which is now no longer in operation and folded back into the Japanese cover brand and office.Well, that's not what they told an American court just yesterday
>>114957060Damn this kinda counts as semi sex doesn't it...
grim
>>114957095anti retard is going to be real quiet after this one, kek
>>114957090hags are best as has been proven time and again
>>114957040>They did the same with COVER USA, which is now no longer in operation and folded back into the Japanese cover brand and office.So you're just lying now?
>>114957126dawn
>>114957095
>>114957095>>114957129>I want you crying for me, I want you, I want you>Wa-Wa-wa-wa-wa-wa
>>114957138>>114957095Why are you responding to a literal retard that is just making shit up? Don't you have anything better to do?
>>114957040Nigga cover USA still exists
>>114957219>>114957040Oh he deleted
>>114957095Well sorry I misspoke I'll go kill myself now you win. I thought this was the post bullshit opinions thread.
>>114957211It's one thing not responding to a retarded schizo. It's another thing correcting retarded misinfo and it's good to show how stupid someone is
POPULAR DEMAND
Nightmare fuel for schizos
Raora now has +3 new casual outfit prediction art bringing her total up to 5 now from the previous check of 2 predictions!
>>114957211Don't you have anything better to do to post shit out of your ass?
>>114956117A reorganization always takes a couple months to flush out especially where other companies are involved. And this merge was all about cutting the fat in the budget so why would Cover's media mix team pay out for QualiArts to redo their menus post-launch out of their budget?The branding department needs to pay up for that which is probably stuck between two middle suits debating which department cuts the check over to accounts payable to make it happen. Then it'll take 6 months+ to code.
Huge line for Mousey's Vexpo panel.
Prediction: there will be a Qualiarts stage next Holofes that only has Holodori songs
>>114957368Probably a safe bet.
>>114957362If I was there I'd go in just to ask her how big the money bag was for her to sell out completely on her strict anti AI stance
>>114957288>ERB next to NijisanjiVery fitting
>>114957088Let me put it in the nicest way possible. If there is no downturn in popularity, literally nothing that will ever happen to the girls will matter. Their average is 6.3k for HoloEN, on the same point that it was at Spring 2023. With all the complaining, the doomposting, etc.
>>114957368I wouldn't mind a holodori stage or even concert. Some really good songs already and there's so many more to come.
>ctrl+f Kiara>91 mentions
>>114956959If you think the EN girls would have been better off supporting the homo's, then you are absolutely retarded.The girls thrived, and continue to do so.The homos... I don't care. May Allah condemn them to an eternity of Hellfire.
At least the dumbass monkey stopped flinging shit after getting shut the fuck up by hard facts.
>>114957424Remove EN concerts, remove EN ITSELF, graduate whoever the fuck you want, treat them however you want, it's not my problem, I do not have any attachments to these people above the content I consume. Now you know why 10 of the past 19 EN Tallies are Holo-only despite all
>>114956609I've survived downsizing before. I know what downsizing looks like and so do most people who aren't NEETs and justice babies still in undergrad.
>>114957362Link?
>>114957503https://x.com/AbyssalHayashi/status/2101328047840296969
>>114957426Don't think so this month hasn't crossed 1 billion yen still. I think it will crash to 25 rank this time
>>114954407All i understood is that you are a permanent resident of numbers and you don't watch any jp streams
>>114957499Agreed. You can tell who is still a college student or welfare queen. A down sizing/ integration/ realignment whatever magic words the company uses is never a positive for employees especially not ones in the divisions and branches that are being forced back into the main branch. And almost without fail in a decade the company pretends none of it happens and proceeds to push splitting out once again so that people can focus on what's important to them.
>>114957424avg ccv won't change much but event ccv peaks will be hurt which we will see today with the upcoming myth anniversary live
>>114957288Is that Doppio on the right? Jesus christ wtf
>>114957531Good thing no one used any such terms other than you, retard.
>>114957522Luckily they already committed to everyone getting an original song and I have to imagine that most are already recorded. Even if the game self destructs as long as we got 1 new original from every hololive member it will have been worth it.
>>114956609>Cover says they will slow down debuts to invest in their upcoming talents>EN gets a duolive and two sololives>Cover says they will continue to support EN after the rebranding>?They don't actually care about EN. They wish Cover was retarded enough to spam debuts for EN because that's how NijiEN went from a distant but recognizable second to complete dogshit
>>114957526Alright then, name one thing First Army has gotten that others haven't gotten, sometimes even before them
>>114954683It's a live sponsored and hosted by Abema itself you fucking cunt, it doesn't even matter
>>114957521https://x.com/BenjaminOscar77/status/2101349851938107509Oh connor was also there
>>114957531no... JP is dead? why did they merge JP too
isn't phase connect the vtuber org for cuckoldssome nigger keeps spamming them in my general
>>114957566You're right, the brand sponsored language this time was "one hololive"
>>114957083Ugh...If only the people knew what riveting and thought provoking conversations we had here.I really hope this place never actually dies!
>>114957575>>114957606
>>114957652JP was always just 'hololive'. But yes they will also likely be negatively impacted by having to deal with EN and ID shit that had nothing to do with them in the past but is now forced into the same queue.
>>114957652There never was a JP
Mori and Ina didn't suck a cock
WHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIESWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYWE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTYYYYYYYYYYYWHEN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH DIES
>>114957376I love safe bets>>114957426No I agree, that's why i made that prediction. I liked>Boom Boom Boom Tropical Vacation>NightBreak>Stardust Capsule>TriUnity Love SystemAnd i think Luna's Takoyaki Glazing would go really fucking hype.
>>114956473It was solidified over the summer, well after holodori was going gold
>>114957716Did you hear the new aki one. Shit is banger
SUPER EXPO this year is just going to be one big holodori ad isn't it?
>>114957470this board die's with out Kiara being around to hate. Other ENs to lazy to talk about most of the time.
It's an administrative change that makes perms easier and isolates some holos less, plus it makes it easier for sponsorships to apply to all holos instead of only some branch. Also it takes wind out of the sails of investorpigs who demand x or y branch changes or closures. That's it. You're idiots.
>>114957794new cope just dropped
>>114957794Okay so where are all of the EN streams with the massive mountain of perms they allegedly have now?
>>114957531>>114957499this
>>114957794Thanks Ina. Also who's gstring are you wearing on your eye?
>>114957653King, you are in the right thread!Come, take a seat next to us.You don't have to livepost here, or actually be a fan of anyone really.Just... post... please.It doesn't matter what, we don't care.Please, our ppm...Have some mercy...
>>114957368I doubt it. I don't really think they will be able to fit in a 5th concert. A completely separate concert though? Yes please.
>>114957794cope
>>114954097You do know that "extra" can also be used to refer to someone incredibly dramatic, right? It could very well be a self aware joke
>>114957841I don't see why they wouldn't be able to fit it. They had 3 days with 5 concerts last year they can just put 2 shows every day. even more lotteries for overseas fans to lose
>>114957877No one is more extra than her
>>114957761I was playing it just a moment ago. Shit's pretty difficult ngl
Expert 25.The song is going to be slow upbeat?
>>114957925Damn that art sucks
>>114957911Yeah I saw the expert map. It's like psychedelic shit
>>114957841>>114957890Consider the following>More Concerts = More People = More Ticket Sales = More RevenueIt's a matter of whether the talents are up for it, but i doubt they don't wanna perform
>>114957925>>114957944Can confirm, expert is nuts. I'm no Gigi or Anya though I often have trouble with expert beyond 25, but this one specifically is super hard.
>>114957942These events have static art mv so it's not going to be animated anyways. The song needs to be good enough that's all
>>114957890>5 concertsOnly 4 no? Stage 1 - Friday nightStage 2 - Saturday afternoonStage 3 - Saturday nightStage 4 - Sunday afternoonI mean I guess they can add one more for Sunday night
>>114957961>I often have trouble with expert beyond 25, but this one specifically is super hard.Yeah, i have not gotten a full combo above 25 either
Btw hololive is doing a show at Saitama arena. It's that big firework and drone show shit
>>114957678Gamers got two abema grouplive in a row, see that's why you don't watch hololiveMiko got a sololive in two months, see that's why you don't watch hololiveanything else schizo? Are you gonna come here trying to complain why pekora and subaru didn't get anything in all these years, have you tried watching hololive
>>114957987Yeah they did fireworks and drone shit last year too at Makuhari beach. I assume this is going to be a yearly thing now.
>>114955119>>114955149you need to fuck offits funny how unironic troons like you are so against autofister maybe it comes with the flip cuck tendencies
Here is my analysis from X>The astronaut girl isn't too deep into networking stuff> She pops up sends some post replies to shit and goes back to whatever she was doing >Same with the orange girl but for some reason the MTG people are really looking forward to her stream. They have also started making cards based on her>The salamander girl is getting lots of art and she has a good amount of social media engagement because of her mask and noja talk>The GOAT girl has the most amount of art like artist are going wild drawing her all cute and she same as the salamander is good at the whole X thingAll 4 have decent amount of artwork but goat and salamander have the best ones out of 4. Their subs are also on a equal range which compared to previous gens is kinda weird because usually there is like an imbalance with one of the better looking one getting more subs early on happened with Niko and Raden. Also the anti are already riling up I saw a few of them taking dig at the engagement saying why are the Holo shit showing up on the fyu page. They are currently way too deep into ui shit so their attention is a bit limited about the new girls for now
>>114958069Troons are the main fanbase of shipping, and 90% of them are grems.
>>114958059This one is for Holodori. Also there is going to be a concert from hololive records.
My beautiful Fox friend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TrwId2K-AE
Reading through this thread just makes me sad at this point. Where did Hololive go so wrong? Honestly I'm happy I went back to watching anime
My venerable, wholesome sheep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqt2kbYiaJI
>>114958115the anon who was there said this nigga is a groomer troon who forcers his shit on everybody to the point of grems and otomos avoiding taking pics when he is nearby lmao he is probably the shitter hating autofister here desu
>>114958201I jgh, what happun?
>>114958201Cover destroyed whatever western goodwill there was.
>>114958201anime is infested by normies now
>>114958219Love these, very nice
>>114958216>to the point of grems and otomos avoiding taking pics when he is nearby lmao based?
>>114958216Sure
>>114957573I don't think anyone is asking for spam debuts like Niji. But surely you must acknowledge that the situation is totally different to that NijiEN vs HoloEN era. The four that left were never properly replaced.We are going to go an ENTIRE WEEKEND with basically zero English streams at a good time for EU/NA viewers, apart from Kiara being decent for EU viewers. The few streams EN we have for this entire weekend are in a timezone that's good only for West Coast at the best if they start at early JP times.People are asking for one gen, to bring excitement and increase the numbers and options a bit, that's not anywhere close to Niji factory mill.
>>114958255>2025move on lil bro
>>114958262Why do you need to find a 1:1 replacement for any holo that leaves in the first place? Not that I would mind EN5, I've literally listed some indies that I think would be great hires before myself.
>>114958201QRD?
>>114958230Nothing. Retard is being kiara
>>114958280https://x.com/GrempaPesocchi/status/2093797297406792088Okay
>>114958288I want a replacement for FWMC. Give me a talent that'll enjoy streaming VN and retro more than once every 2 months.
>>114958255despise being 2% of the fanbase, troons commit 90% of tweets
>>114958329 (me)Pic to pair
