ホロスターズ+
>>114965016last thread >>114710701
currently livehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKfW9CQ8c0Majin Dogengers watch alonghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9YVh5q3oYoDogengers Tourism #11
https://spwn.jp/events/evt_EoCDAfJdEsV8GjyWZGusRoberu's solo event will start soon
Why there's no photos of the cafe? I want to see it!!!! Well at least someone said the food is better than holoexpo
https://x.com/san_3_t/status/2101484198100078679
Astel chuki
https://x.com/Deluta_IV/status/2101586431152128411Birthday art from Deluta's little brother
>>114971672Damn... it's been a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHD_qMWd62gUyu ARK
>>114953832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ledbdlX0okc&t=12816>Cover doesn't let them commission artists who do NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpq7BRKIQ2QFuma ARK
>>114972121Yeah? That should be obvious? If the first thing people see on your profile is talents getting their back blown out, it's not a good look for the company. Even an artist known for his ero doujinshi like Raita keeps nipples off his account.
https://x.com/RC_REJECT/status/2101612331142660134lol. lmao even
>>114972443https://x.com/lalalalack/status/2101614669333233792no way he was giving up on his son
>>114972121funny thing is that most holomamas had done NSFW at some point, some even doing it to this day! what's with the sudden hypocrisy?
>>114972443>>114972485This is just aruran with inside out hair lmao
>>114972443>>114972485Stole Seaweed's theater mask on the way out.
https://x.com/astelleda/status/2101627632723087364kek
>>114972443An anti couldn't come up with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW6lpQXfkNMAstel GTA
Will Roberu quit next year since he done his solo event?
>>114973227Why would he when the company has literally zero expectations for him and Regulars have no standards so he can just stream gachaslop until the heat death of the universe
>>114973227Depends on what he wants, he probably won't get anything after this year. If he's content with spamming gacha then I doubt he's leaving unless Cover just shut downs the whole thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CbmPMQqhJoDeluta "Loose Leaf: Afternoon" Part 2 Voice Drama
>>114973227I don't know about quitting but I was actually wondering if he was planning on this being his last solo event just based on how much stuff he added this time. The amount of info and all the different tickets feels a bit overkill.
>>114973330He can't quit with others because his solo event prep already ongoing
HOLY DOWNGRADE
>>114973227I assume all of them will leave during the next contract renewal, that being said I kinda wanted him to stay here forever as punishment for being a selfish ass.
>>114973227he just announced a new project at the end of his solo event. He's not going anywhere anytime soon.
>>114973456Even if he didn't have his self-fellatio event, he wouldn't quit cause he only cares about his own ass.
>>114973524No one's quitting. Roberu is getting the superchat cut funneled to him, Bratt are doing the idol journey redux, Oga is being spoiled by management because he shills Hololive, and Fuma and Uyu will have to be dragged out kicking and screaming.
Roberu's situation is weird, his solo events is something no one else at Cover got, even if it's incredibly cheap.I assume it's staff and contacts from outside, but surprising Cover gives him okay.
>>114973592>being spoiled by management because he shills HololiveStaff is so disgusting wtf
Oga followed nuAruran. And he followed Oga back.
Hello anons, this is one of your /stars+/ (previously /manstars/) divegrass anons here!/vt/ League 11 is continuing today in about 4 hours. /stars+/ will be playing /lig/ in the very last match of the day which will be around 5 hours after the start of the day. We have already guaranteed ourselves a path into the knockouts.Will we finally be able to 9-point a Group or will we job? That's for us to find out.Stream Link: https://vtleague.420699.xyz/League Wiki Page: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_11Be there or be square!If you have any questions, feel free to ask
>>114973227He ain't leaving since he announced a new project, plus if he did. Who would be writing polka 's scripts?
Lack really loves this guy huh
>>114974526Always has.
>>114974948Also he's already added him to his banner.
>>114974964LMAO He really REALLY loved his china dress hairstyle
>>114972967I really want him to stop with all this bullshit tweets that he has been spamming recently. The invincible fad died out already.
lmao she doesnt give a shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40AxGZi1gycUyu
>>114972622>most holomamasThat is a stretch. Most have not doing nsfw.
>>114975583>posted 11:27 PM>screencap shows 7:57 PMNo wonder this thread stinks...
>>114975350He's desperate to get his numbers back, unfortunately nobody gives a shit anymore. He can't hit 1K in GTA, or Karaoke, he also doesn't have any particular collab group that people would wanna tune in to either
>>114974068League is LIV
>>114975350>fadAstel has always been like that. He was already called invincible before the downsizing and it was the whole basis of his jubutsu bit.
>>114972121What in the fuck? Why????????? Is it some stupid fear about brand risk for the girls or what??>some folks get some leeway in some things>why them and not usJesus so it really is open discrimination, what a shit fucking company.
I saw some JP fans freaking out. Who's doomposting this time?
>>114980956Isn't it just about Aruran reincarnating? For some fans associating Holostar personas with their roommates/reincarnations is NG, so seeing a lot of fans make references upsets them.
>>114981811>君は俺のこと、知ってる?He is not trying to hide.
>>114974068After this game concludes, We're up!!!
>>114974068It's time!!!https://vtleague.420699.xyz/https://vtleague.420699.xyz/https://vtleague.420699.xyz/
Ruze'd to 9 points
That was certain a game, but we did win.
well anons, we've fucking done it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVQ99B8Q2ZERoberu asakatsu
>>114985455Roberu is going to have a new show, no more details for now
So what happens with streamer servers? Are Holostar members going to avoid notAruran? Is Cover going to ban them? They let Bettel collab with Caspurr but the JP graduations are still pretty fresh. I guess if Oga and Uyu are following them there's probably no restrictions, but there's no precedent for this.
>>114980956Apparently it was Astel hinting at graduating at the end of the year, so a nothing burger.
>>114989657Is it really that common for him to pull menhera stunts like that? I mean being a Holostar would drive anyone a little insane but still...
>>114989703It's common for him to joke about quitting, but that's all it is. He already said he has no plans to quit anymore and he's preparing stuff for next year, so if that's what fans were freaking out over then they don't watch him.
>>114987908i want to lick his bussy.
>>114990371First time I've seen anyone thirst over Fuma
>>114989384Did astel meet mikeneko on surge GTA? There's your answer
>>114991098I don't know because I don't know what identity she's using.
>>114990030I was in the middle of catching up with his latest stream and I guess this is what people are referring to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW6lpQXfkNM&t=13145>He has an important announcement around November or December>He's been job hunting>Someone in chat tells him to use a cheerful thumbnail, he says it'll have the title "Thank you for everything up until now">He found a job so he needs to start preparing to work?No idea what he could be implying, a graduation would contradict the way he's been talking about the future recently, including working hard in 2027.
>>114989355https://x.com/roberu_kininari/status/2101646062222291056here's the teaser he showed during his event, the show starts on 10/23
>>114993821The announcement is that he's getting married to Donald. It's why he needs more money. For the wedding.
>>114994132A talk show? Knowing him it will not have the sister branch? So realistically will it be VAs and some random ass people
>>114995274Will there any guests at all?
>>114994132Sounds like paid watchastars where they had guests of certain professions...Well if it works, then good for him
>>114995212I support him.
https://x.com/izurusub/status/2101945560572072290>Going out to grab lunch in a fucking typhoonIzuchama...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvR9QpQlwZQFuma ARK
>>114993821Being a leda fan must be exhausting. You wage slave all day come back and open a stream to relax and be entertained but then you have your dude just doomposting and vagueposting every other day.It genuinely is off-putting, him losing viewers is warranted.
>>114998917>Being a Holostars fan must be exhaustingFtfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr_Cv2atBLsUyu Valheim
>>114991098Mikeneko wasn't even in this server.
https://x.com/Deluta_IV/status/2102062687828234471It's Deluta's birthday!
https://x.com/souma_co0/status/2102064279910543667
https://x.com/Suzuka_960118/status/2099782565246947640
>>114998917I've been watching Seaweed since 2021 and not really.
Rio debutting much later means he's going indie rather than picking an agency. Most likely joining atanaru as predicted.
Today is Deluta and Capla's debuts but it's also the Holostars fan event, there's going to be a DJ event that will be streamed, but that stream won't be archived, so if you want to watch it will be at 14:30JSThttps://x.com/Seikansai_info/status/2099453111173800259
>Izuru talking about how all of his underwear is stretched-out>Most of it is underwear he's had since debut>He has to stick his hands in his pockets to lift/hold them>"At least there are no holes right?">"There are some holes but I don't care">Chat begging him to buy some but he says there's never an opportunity and doesn't like buying basic necessities onlineWhy is he like this?
>>115013164>Why is he like thisWouldn't have become a holostar if there isn't anything wrong with him.
>>115012133https://www.twitch.tv/seikansaicommitteeStarting soon
Huh, the covers they're playing are using the original vocals instead of Holostars' (but using their MVs). Guess it's some copyright fuckery.
cute starmin jumping
I'm sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erkXTRExqN4Astel opening Digika
>>115017957part 2 now
A.scort really is a good song. If only it had an MV...
Kinda amusing that notNodoka is doing a debut watchalong of notAruran.Made me remember when Shinove, A-chan and her did a watchalong for 2nd ACT...ah good times.And then Shinove quit, and everything went to shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2mUz7v-49ACapla Libras Debut Stream
https://youtu.be/-2mUz7v-49Aget in
>>115021270Nah.
He has such a strange voice. It just doesn't fit ikemen or young looking characters. But it was perfect on Arupapa.
Ewww... he's white
>Aruran had an ability to make wormholes>Capla fell through a wormhole and got amnesia
Mfer lore is so fucking convenient lol
Whose fucking baby is that
Holy shit prime aru-san shitposting???
>>115021613Cover is gonna sue
>>115021635They're not even trying to hide it
>>115021613>>115021707Oh fuck, I didn't realize it's his old eye Holy lol
This felt more like a new outfit reveal than a new vtuber debut
>>115021721It's so blatant. The audacity is almost impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5yCedTFAE0Libras Peace Sign Cover Premiere
>reject>company is full of rejectsPottery
https://x.com/chinoppido/status/2102354006714859612https://x.com/yuragi0916/status/2102354404116734388Chinotaro and Yuragi had sukiyaki together
>>115022097Sextape leaks when.
>>115021983Wasn’t there an anon that predicted that he would go to Reject? Spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-x8nobdg08Deluta Re:Debut Stream
https://www.youtube.com/live/9-x8nobdg08Deluta debut
>>115022413Lol every single person who watches him knew that he was joining Reject. Clippers, streamers, his audience, everyone.
There he is
his eyes blinking at different times... i missed him so much
Not a big fan of the rig. Feels like he still has to adjust some sensitivity settings.
>>115022595Definitely a little too sensitive, but do enjoy how he keeps hitting this smug face
3D live ganbare...
Damn, this guy really is Shinove
Merch!
>>115023011Sample (cakes not included)
ribbon kawaii =^_^=
>>115023163sexo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahj1hY4uDA8Deluta Kaleidoscope Cover Premiere
the hibiscus... this is not fair ;_;
>>115023290Began sobbing halfway through
>>115023011https://www.mtshop.jp/view/category/deluta-debut
Lack released a free jewelry brush pack so that fan artists can draw NotAruran more easily...This man really loves his boy
https://x.com/curemoto_dot/status/2102413653563896082
>>115023011i hope he can make his dream plushie soon
https://x.com/animatekakami/status/2102335431660683419
I'm going to miss Miyabi's dumb face... Deluta doesn't give the same feeling.
>Capla is already going to spam collabs after debutStill retarded I see.
https://x.com/wakamiya_hanae/status/2102531502068441457
>>115037817Anon you dumbfuck. Spamming Collab is the easiest way to tell the world that he's back
>>115037817??Is this jealousy or just retardation?Why wouldn't he collab? All his close friends who did the watchalong were fucking eager to collab with him again.Setsuna, Moshu, Kazuyo, Ditto, Robin all of them.Fuck, even Oga was in Setsuna's watchalong chatYou are just jealous that your oshi doesn't have a friend circle who are eager for their return.
>>115042258>>115042389There's a reason that cover bans collabs outside of gens for the first few weeks of new debuts. It's so they can build their own audience without relying on the box.But it's clear Capla's whole thing is "Guys did you know I was Arurandeisu?" so of course he's just going to spam collabs with old partners.
>>115042932Aren't most reject reincarnation and former indies?
>>115042389He is still a "new" vtuber, there are going to be people checking him out in this period who have no idea who Aruran was or his connection to any of those people. It's not that he shouldn't collab, but that post-debut he should be appealing to new viewers, not acting like he just came back from vacation wink wink nudge nudge, but well, maybe he's content with just that.
>>115043045>>115042932Baka Anontachi, Reject is not normal vtuber company
>>115042932Why wouldn't he want his old fans to know that he's back? A lot of people aren't terminally online, so the way for people to find him again is through streaming and collabing...Also, literally everyone was hinting that he's aruran. Ditto or Kohaku literally called him arusan by mistake in their watchalong.Why yall mad that he's popular?
>>115043012And transfers from other agency
>>115043142>madNot mad. I just think he's going about it in a tacky fashion. This isn't a case where he got terminated; he made the choice to gradate. He wasn't forced to give up being Arurandeisu. He could have stayed just like the others did.
>>115043218Tell that to other reject talents lmao. What he's doing is standard over there
>guy who only spammed collabs continues doing that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf2Uq302YX4Izuru Kabuto Park
>>115043661Robechan... Please spam collab again....
>y-you're just jealous your oshi isn't popular like mine!!And just because your oshi is popular, doesn't mean you are, brownoids.
>>115042932https://youtu.be/yjAJbbmKVL0?t=1886This is a reject esports div member calling him Caparandisu a day before his debut stream. Timestamp includedMake of this what you will.
>>115043792Robechan loves himself too much.
>>115043142>Why yall mad that he's popular?You’re joking, right?
>>115044586By Holostars standards, he was popular as a star. He had 2 big hololive clippers clipping him and 2 more pizza-ya clippers who were dedicated aruran clippersHe's valuable enough to get poached by a gaming orgHe's well known in streamer servers and in the SF space.idk what metrics you are using to compare against, but whether you like it or not. He is popular. Both among the audience and his fellow streamers
What an amusing timeline
>>115044749You don't seem to realize that people are capable of disliking Aruran/NotAruran for reasons outside of his collab spamming/popularity. Just because people like him doesn't mean everyone has to.
Deluta Membership Openinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mGXuya2A8wYuragi Monetization Streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoMOs7nyvvg
>>115044815This, I despises arufuckboy but complaining him spamming collab right after reincarnation is silly
>>115042932>There's a reason that cover bans collabs outside of gens for the first few weeks of new debuts.Holostars did this, and the result?
>>115045108>Holostars did thisDon't most vtuber corpos do that?
>>115045189Vspo and neoporte don't iirc
roberu said that it was 50/50 female and male at his event.
>>115046035Nice. Sasuga Winning son...Now please stop playing gacha slop
>>115046035Wasn't the first even more female sided?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplx32_IODEUyu Valheim
>>115046650The point was that all his events before had female majority. Even staff was surprised.
https://x.com/Deluta_IV/status/2102789088067875047Deluta is accepting maros for tomorrow's stream
https://lit.link/en/deluta-IVDeluta fan guidelines
>>115053812He doesn't allow liveTL?
>>115043142>>115044749People are not mad because he's popular. Being the most hated in HoloPro over at sukikirai is an amazing feat. There are a lot of reasons why people don't like him. His attitude after the model change, loud and disruptive in collabs, not reading the room, looking down on others, pushing blame, not being able to control his viewers from being pigeons. New haters are usually the viewers of the streamers he collabs with. Adding on how he is now going about reincarnating in an extremely tacky manner. Good luck to him.
>>115054387looks like it, at least he still has some of his old clippers
https://x.com/Refilm_Official/status/2102932316498886933Oga's here.
https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/6898>Holostars featured in this article when they're not allowed to book the self booth anymoreCover is a strange place.
>>115061033Roberu is still allowed to do his joya no ketsu stream
>>115063119He booked the studio last year, before downsizing. But it would be super idiot if they wouldn't let him for joya no ketsu. It always trended higher than every Hololive new year shows
>>115062584cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raT1xwkbxlYAstel Utawaku
Deluta Answering Maroshttps://youtu.be/FOH4iEeSG4YChinotaro Prince of Tennis Doki Doki Survival https://youtu.be/QAS0nh_55k8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8seTiOZyoLgUyu
RoberunightMea tomorrow
https://x.com/chinoppido/status/2103138156917018718It's Chinotaro's birthday!
>>115070805Announcing it on twitter, huh?
>>115070931yea
BTW, the blurred baby footage in Capla's debut? That was actually him...He was asking around what to do for his debut, and Kurage jokingly said that he should put a being born bit but literally. So he hit up his parents and they actually had it on vhs
>>115070931Why announce so late? Post coitus?
>>115072633He accidentally knocked her up, so they're going to set up a crowdfunding for maternity expenses.
>>115073729Can't believe Robe is pregnant now.
https://www.youtube.com/live/y6D6w108_JYDeluta Asakatsu (if he wakes up)
>>115079218he did it! (idiot forgot to set an alarm)
>>115073729>accidentally
>>115071686I think it'd be really weird if it wasn't him.
>>115079372my pon flower... what should we call him now?
>>115084037pon plant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDY9Zp1h2s
>>115084567Birthday countdown? When was the last time he did it?
>>115085362money is running out
Why are they pretending that they've never in each other room?
>>115088069Why are they discussing how they would decorate the interior of their houses? Are they planning to move in or something?
>robe know jack shit about Disney Is this why him and seaweed hates each other?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBLprGF1vNwFuma ARKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av4v1F5O5nUAstel BLEACH Rebirth of Souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Z9uMpxQxoOga Onimusha
>>115084567starting
>>115084037Tea leaf, maybe? Or tea pot?
>>115071686What the fuck
>>115084567He keep talking about marriage lmao
>>115094349he's marrying himself
The only reason he did a birthday countdown is that he has a live to attend to today, probably an Imas one.Lol happy birthday, you fucker
>>115094880>His money condition is okay....>Meaning ear licking ASMR is still far away...Noo....
>>115094880>probably an Imas oneBingo
>>115095051Lol, you gotta admire this man's dedication to what he loves.God I hope he doesn't pick up Wuwa...
>>115095316>God I hope he doesn't pick up Wuwa...You know it's happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaj3_wxljdQDeluta clip
Why is the Fourte group glazing Astel and Izuru so hard? Having them as special guests in their live, performing their song on their anniversary. Do they wanna poach them?
>>115097480Why not? Talent wise they're really good
>>115097480Cause they're bigger than them but not so big that they're out of reach.
>>115097624Rather than trying to poach Bratt, they're trying to poach their fans by pretending to be fans themselves.
>>115097500Nothing, it felt kinda abrupt and out of nowhere.
>>115097798500 of them?
https://x.com/san_3_t/status/2103499772724433356
https://x.com/MBluesekai/status/2103552912047968314
>>115097454>minna, herroi'm gonna combust hes so fucking precious
>>115097972I wouldn't say it was really abrupt, they performed Find It in one of their online lives and Astel was watching and commented, which led to them all following each other. Izuru had already been following them for a while--Miyabi also commented on it on twitter. The anni songs were chosen by fans.
The bartender nui is having a cake. His birthday is September 26th… Oh my god…
Sorry to ask, but I'd really appreciate any help regarding Rio's menshi karaoke treams. I recently found out most of my personal archive was corruped, and I've been frantically saving any I could before they privated them - I was half way through the playlist when they became unavailable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNr_ncAeKkYFuma Ark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0svrnRH0FcDeluta Short
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TEiM1rrRQAstel The Death Game Report
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/148248551
fags
liv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOsEkBxjINMOga Dogengers watch along https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_YCzIBCSM0Dogengers Tourism #12 (final ep)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfY6BmY2wq8Roberu zatsudan
https://x.com/chinoppido/status/2103844721068277965Chinotaro visual reveal?
>>115137701Only for the live reading thing he's doing with notAstel.
https://x.com/Deluta_IV/status/2104105501399318555
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKIMpOB68UEIzuru Terraria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcujWBGVv84Astel Apex
go back
Why seaweed and tower often plays same game recently?
Tsumugi??
>>115141603>>115147633And Riko
https://x.com/nozomimanjuu3u/status/2103861455397478799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcB_O8EzelAYori cover at 21JST, also has a waiting room after
Hello anons, it is one of the /stars+/ divegrass anons here.We have made it through to the Round of 16, but first /fig/ and /warkop/ will play in the Round of 24 to see which one will face us. Their match will be played in 5 days time on the Friday. For us, we will be playing the day after on Saturday. Will we win and make the last 8 and final day? Well that's for you to see in 6 days.Be there or be square!Link: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_11#Knockout_Stage
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https://first-light.hololivepro.com/news/All EN announced was the title of the concert and website, but there's nothing on it. Also they're calling it their first concert? What was the last one then? There's a tab for tickets but the front page says online.
>>115158126>There's a tab for tickets but the front page says online.Streaming tickets.
>>115158126First because it's paid?
https://x.com/z9aCTtjjMY60344/status/2104432295939899897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Z2Q9t85pQDeluta Zatsudan
Fuma Arkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ1sz6wh8AwYori Tengoku Cover Premierehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcB_O8EzelA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WObYCoQFbYIYori Post-Cover Zatsudan
I missed his laugh ;_;
Yone-kun!
>>115164644Cute water tail
https://x.com/Hug_n_o/status/2104563624513823224Starting to believe that one rrat about them being exs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmaVb5U5wl8Astel Utawaku
>>115166057Both dated twappi? That's gay
>>115166788Nobody gives a fuck about your whore
>>115166956Don't be rude to Astel like that
>>115166788>twappi?Whos dat
>>115170827Someone who made this anon >>115166956 angry
>>115170827Someone so irrelevant to this thread that no one talked about her collab with Majin last week.
>>115171621To be fair, it kind of boring
https://x.com/akitakomatin/status/2104511658781708346A fan made a little RPG with Uproar and Astel.
>>115173739Cute!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN1RXJctb10
I want to hear Holostars together again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGtcmQ5SPRMRoberu NIKKE
>>115180817Yaoi still makes my stomach queasy but this is really cute.
>>115187704You don't hug your bros?
>>115188615I don't have any friends IRL and hugging my family or really any kind of physical contact makes me feel weird or uncomfortable.
>>115187704>'i sure hope i don't see any yaoi at the yaoi factory'Brother
https://x.com/Deluta_IV/status/2104862581714522496Deluta Schedule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wNsFUfNCXIFuma ARK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w26EgzYZPaoDeluta Clip
NIG DANCER
>>115193433Didn't he also sing this as Rikka?
>>115194407Yes but that was 3 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kb5Pm8BqBkUyu Valheim
>>115194845Everyone should kiss Miyabi
>>115195232Yes
>>115195232True
>>115195232One more kiss before the thread dies