>>114993588
Probably decent for the dumb girls who can't afford/can't find a manager but still want to make this a serious job.
Price doesn't seem too bad, especially compared to bullshit like photoshop licenses.

>>114993693
This doesn't do any of the bullshit actual managers do like arranging sponsorships and answering emails.

>>114993744
Yeah but you also won't get groomed

>>114993693
Even Kana can afford a wink wink "manager".

>>114993588
Massive risk as if this blows up, she may as well retire

This screams Seth, but I can't prove it.

Has any vtuber or normie streamer ever credited a course or program or whatever for their success? It's not like you're learning a skill. You press start stream and talk to yourself. And you can do that in an entertaining way or you cannot.

>>114993797
As proven many times before in this predatory hobby, simps will keep the money flowing regardless of what crimes a vtuba commits.

>>114993588
Geega next Ponzi scheme now that Vshojo and the merch corpo went under.

>>114993588
Here's what's going to happen in 6 months:
>She's going to turn full control over to her co-operator so she can "pursue other projects"
>Vtubers will start talking about how the $200 never got them anything
>"It was a glorified Discord servers full of 0views!", "The consulting was a bullet point list of bog-standard improvement tactics!", "The artist in the trustworthy list didn't deliver on time!", "I was asked to give a lecture and never got paid!"
>Geega's going to play victim, how she got scammed by the co-operator, how she "tried to warn others but nobody listened" (bonus points: the co-operator is Seth)
>1 year later she'll come up with another business venture that people will blindly trust because "she talks smart!"

>>114993815
If the bones of it look like his work, it’s safe to assume he at least inspired it.

>>114993588
The only time I hear about this person is when they're attached to a predatory scheme

>>114993816
i have heard several small corpo vtubers, including ones that got into phase (eimi), credit this stream with helping them get into their small corpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VaH6nJcN08

granted it is free

>>114995413
why would someone want to be like Lia?

if you are a beginner and poor, you should simply not pay for something that you can get for free. as long as there are things you can do yourself, you should do them yourself.

>>114995465
if you watch the stream, it is not about "being her," rather it is about how to audition and the nuts and bolts behind stuff like that (it is from 2022 mind you)

eimi, who got hired, said she studied this stream forwards and back. and iirc a few other small corpo girls did the same. I want to say vgen courses also cite this stream.

>>114995534 (me)
and she is quite qualified, because she auditioned for 3 agencies at the same time and passed the auditions for all 3 (Phase, Prism, Cyberlive) and had to pick which contract she wanted

also the fact that she picked the right corpo compared to the other 2 which imploded also says something about her judgement I guess

>>114993588
obvious scam

>>114995600
she got into 3 shitter corpos and chose the least shit one of them

>>114995651
you're mostly looking at that with hindsight knowing how it ended up for all 3. in early 2021, it was not so clear

if you were a betting man in 2021/2022 which of those 3 would be the safe bet to make it, most people would have bet on Prism

also the point is there are streams and resources out there for free from credible vtubers that cost $0 to find and not $200. Like I wrote, this one is from 2022 so there have been more since then others have done that also have good info in them... for free.

Reminder she knew Novel Horizon was going broke and didn't tell all the vtubers that were getting their hopes up for the figures Horizon never delivered

This sounds like a scam, and I wouldn't trust Geega after that

>>114995742
Same thing with vshojo

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>>114995742
Predatory shit. meanwhile, Zen and Mousey will stay silent knowing their friend has been scamming people for years now

>>114993588
a group that assists 1 view vtubers get partner and stuff would actually be a good idea but thats not what this is for
you have to be partnered already to join this
its just a scam

Nexas 2

>>114993588
Stupid idea, if she wants to show this to be working she should have invited interested people in a pilot and have them talk freely to the general audience. Would be a win-win as the included project people would also get free publicity.

Also the disclaimer absolves her of all risk if things can't be provided as advertised :)

>>114995742
Reminder that Geega has been a known associate of Seth Weinstein (MSM Talent, allegedly Novel Horizons, allegedly her personal talent manager post-MSM), Endra (MSM Talent and Kinetic Fusion), Jonathan Solis (Novel Horizons), and TheGunRun and Mowtendoo (Vshojo), all of whom have commited widespread scams and grifts on vtubers and collectively accounting for hundreds of thousands of dollars. A woman who surrounds herself with nothing but snakes is probably a viper herself.

Finally the new Weinstein Company

oy vey another opportunity to steal from the goyim

>>114996035
I feel like this Endra person has been brought up a few times but /vt/ doesn't know much about her and it bears investigation. QRD?

>>114993588
Final pump in the ass of gullible idiots, before vtubing completely dies in the west.
Really? Even Holo EN's numbers plummeted but SHE knows the secret on how to blow up? Because she leeched off vshojo for years?
Eat shit you scammer whore. I hope someone T bones you and splits you in half.

>>114996103
It's not stealing when they are giving you 40 000 half ton bombs out of their own free will

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>>114993816
you can't teach someone how to have a good personality and know how to be entertaining or provide good commentary/banter

>>114994503
Don't forget the inevitable grooming. You get a bunch of desperate <2views into one big group and really expect groomers not to take advantage?

>>114995491
Yup. Learning a new skill is free. And if you can't/won't do it and can't/won't pay your way, just pack it up cuz you weren't gonna make it anyways.

>>114995895
>you have to be partnered already to join this
WHO IS THIS EVEN FOR THEN?

>>114997517
You can, but I doubt this course does that.

>>114997869
people with money to burn

>>114997869
You have to be either Affiliate or Partner, not just Partner. The price is the only substantial entry bar.

>>114996016
Yeah I don't know why she didn't create a guerilla marketing campaign or demo showcase to advertise her new business. She easily could've asked any of her 4-view streamer friends to endorse her services, but this whole thing feels a huge "dude just trust me on this" with the entire trust hinging on her being a somewhat known nae in the indie scene that's around big social circles. It's dubious a best even if it's proven to work later down the line, not a good first impression really.

>>114997903
Clearly
>>114997912
Still seems like a useless course being aimed at a target demographic that doesn't really need it

>buy this book on how to save money
>it's only one page long
>"How to Save Money Step One: don't waste it on this stupid ahh book"
>The End

Somehow Seth returned. The only way it could be more blatant a scam is if Grimmi starts promoting it

People are really that desperate if they fall for this scam when the one doing it is just some mediocre vtuber at best no notable achievement, imagine if some Hololive member pulling something like this, they can easily charge more more money and people would eat it up.

>>114998426
>if Grimmi starts promoting it
i will gape her ass

>>114995891
>Zen and Mousey will stay silent knowing their friend has been scamming people for years now
zen hates anything to do with management or marketing hence why she joined socks agency
mousey she knows the side of business which i am shocked she is staying silent about this

>>114998550
She? This is zentreya you are talking about right? It is widely known it is a man piloting the avatar.

>>114993588
Odds on Seth being in on this?

At this point if you're trusting anybody from that clique you're just asking for the trouble

>>114993588
>instead of percentages that allow the bottom 80% to benefit from the overachievers, we implement a flat fee that will cripple unsuccessful losers and be irrelevant for the top dogs
At least they are open about it

I posted in the other thread, but I have two perspectives on this; One as a streamer who started from zero and was able to claw my way to some really significant opportunities and recognition (even if it eventually came to an end) and one as an artist who made money selling artwork & graphics to other streamers.

For the first one; There is no "advice" worth paying for that will help you accomplish anything. No one needs to tell you how to "tweet better", to keep a schedule, to follow gaming trends, to collab with people, and to be a social and interesting person. All of that advice already exists on the internet and paying for it doesn't make it somehow more valid or better. At the end of the day, your success as a streamer is 50% luck and being in the right place at the right time, and 50% the opportunities you create for yourself, because no one is going to give you anything.

From the other side of things; I used to do custom overlay work (and I was very good at it) and even $100 was often such a huge expenditure for people starting streaming that I have had so, so, so many people try and haggle me down because "I'm just a small/new channel and don't make any money". So the idea that people who make nothing from streaming are going to be able to fork over $100 to $200 A FUCKING MONTH for literally nothing of value, is such a wild scam that I honestly wish I could have a part of it because if someone like Geega who is "clouted" enough to have big connections, can wrangle some of those big names to co-sign or even offer to give a talk or something, they'll be swimming in money from rubes (they already are, but even more I mean).

>>114993588
Nice hustle. Morons will pay for this, despite the glaring black marks on her record because "she's business smart" lmao
Has any streamer of note actually made it big after paying for this scammy kind of shit?

This could be a front so she can onboard a bunch of her scamming associates at once into vtubing so they can multiply their schemes

>>114999078
Also, let's assume they have 1000 members in the Discord. People are saying it's 700+ right now, but let's say it tops out at 1000. Let's ignore the upfront, day 1 $100k+ that just made this one streamer for literally zero work.

Ok so you're in there, and supposedly you get a "manager" who you get a 1-on-1 chat with to help you out. For 30 minutes. Once a month. How the fuck is this random person, who is not financially invested in your success in any way (since they don't get a commission/percentage, and they already got paid by Geega) supposed to figure out who you are, what you're about, and how your content works, and provide any sort of feedback in 30 minutes? And then they're just going to remember who you are by next month after they've had these speed-dating sessions with hundreds of other people, all probably functionally-identical 0-viewer generic Vtubers?

Fuck off.

>>114993588
Jesus christ this reeks the same way those "AI sidehustle" courses do. Anyone getting scammed by this deserves it 100%

>>114993588
Obvious scam

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>>114999143
30 minutes of compute can provide plenty of feedback.

>>114993588
I know close to nothing anything about her. I've just seen some clips and she struck me as Dunning–Kruger effect personified much like that robotics girl that can't build a robot to save her life

>>114999538
TRVKE

>>114997517
Shiori's a good example of the fact that no matter how many opportunities you get as an indie, sometimes you need a corpo for people to finally notice you.

>>114993588
Con artist

This seems... fine? It's not really an agency at all, more like a vtubing 101 school with some networking opportunities. Hard to get burned there beyond the fee and you know after the first month if it's worth it for you.
>>114994121
Please explain how the fuck this is a ponzi scheme.

>>114999610
>all I needed to get noticed was a guaranteed 5,000 viewership box and 400,000 subs all provided by the company
gee what a great talent Shiori is

>>114999708
I think it's fine, a lot depends on how it works in practice. Advertising never tells the whole story.

>>114998927
Near 100%. She already continued working with him after MsM and somehow got away with it so why stop now?

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>>114999407
Plenty of feedback? Your average upcoming star will spend about 20 minutes on "uhhh" and "idk man". Vtubers are better off looking for cheap management/business/theater classes and starting with that.

>>115000081
A $100 fee to listen to 30 minutes of wannabe streamer rambling might not be enough

>>115000081
You missed the joke.

>>115000129
Ah, shit, you are right. I might be retarded.

It's always a 2 view eating this shit up. If you go to any "vtubing consultant" on twitter all their clients are 2 views that never incline but are wholly content to pay for this stuff then say "they were really helpful". The funny thing is the consultants themselves are also 2 views that do subathons every other month just to make ends meet.

>>114999407
I decided to test this, I asked a budget AI/LLM what to do If I was sinder and it fucking failed on the first step
>If you did things you shouldn't have: one clear, specific apology.
Name what you actually did. Fuck no, never fucking apologise, this is massively outdated advice.
>don't blame your team or the mob, and don't center your own suffering in the same breath. Audiences detect PR-scripted apologies instantly.
Actually good advice if you are super fucking retarded enough to actually apologise.
>Then actually go quiet for a while. don't like posts, subtweet, or respond to drama — every reaction gets screenshotted.
>Come back normal, Return with the content you're known for. Address the core issue once and clearly, then move on. avoid sponsor-dense or merch-heavy content right away, and don't chase clout with dramatic collabs to force views back.
>Rebuild through behavior, over months
>Don't outsource your defense, If your standing with peers genuinely improves, some will speak up on their own, and that's worth ten scripted defenses.
<10 seconds of compute, see you next month. Honestly sinder would have done better to follow Chink AI's advice.

>>115000349
An apology for a fuck up you caused is "massively outdated advice"? Pffft

>>114996107
She was the COO for MSM, when it collapsed she formed Kinetic Fusion which is/was an events company for gigs, cons etc. A month or so ago it came out that she hadn't paid people, with Porcelainmaid/Jowol alleging she scammed him out of 40k and Bao saying she was owed nearly 3k. I tried going to the site and it's just a white page so I'm assuming she's cut and run now it's come out

>>115000399
How old are you Anon? apologies haven't been in vogue for about a decade, digging in, doubling down and sometimes going on the offensive has been the standard approach for crisis management for a while now, tons has been written about this.

>>115000557
How well has that worked out for every fucking nitwit that's done it, hmm?

>>115000399
You can't admit to doing something wrong and apologizing for it anymore. The social media drama machine will make it the whole of your online presence forever, because that is more entertaining for them than any content you could ever produce.

>>115000592
extraordinarily well, you don't even have to leave /vt/ for examples, all of /smug/ have been under constant attack and cancellation attempts for years and have grown massively by doubling down and going on the offensive; currently Chacha and that terminated gremlin vtuber are taking this approach and its working out fucking great for them.

>>115000740
The fuck did Chacha do?

>>115000753
Made a joke about Filian being deported by ICE.

>>115000753
accidentally chudposted and triggered the twitter libs, she's now a honorary nazituber with leaflit and kirsche

>>115000770
>joke

>>115000740
I'm interested in how the Jelly approach will work out in the long term
>Go full chud
>Company apologises on your behalf and suspends you
>Come back with double your CCV
>Repeat

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"reducing the discounted rate"
= Increasing the price

>>115000592
works for the president and all his ilk

>>115000940
Shouldnt they just straight up cap membership if they have limited managers instead of just increasing the price and FOMO-ing people?

>>115000969
No, that would make sense if the intended goal was to actually provide the service she's advertising. This is such a fucking obvious scam

>>115000734
Chink AI agrees with you and is now apologizing for ever recommending I (Sinder) apologize.
>It amplifies — your statement gets more reach than the original drama ever did, pulling in thousands of people who didn't care before.
>It invites forensics — people dissect every word for insufficient contrition, and any miss becomes fresh content
>Nobody reads an apology as sincere.
It further recommends
>Don't clarify, don't apologize again, don't respond, Every follow-up restarts the news cycle, belief is never restored by statements.

>>115000969
Depends on whether the goal is to make the founders rich or to help people.

>>114998927
100%. Every time a Seth scam died she started shilling a new company a week after which turned out to be his

>>114995413
I hope chromu, hina, coqui etc all start promoting free vtuber advice material that is out there from credible vtubers
there are streams full of good info, frankly better info than what geega is charging for, because they are coming from corpo vtubers who got thru the audition process (something geega never did) -or- were indies who started with nothing and made their own way (something geega also never did)

frankly I don't know what geega's qualifications for handing out vtuber advice would be. get into a friend group, and then use that friend group to get into a big corpo and ride that wave forever.

>>115001377
Geega isn't handing anything out, she's charging $200/month for it. She's also more than likely not the one giving any of the advice. It'll be people like Heavenly, Froggy or any other more successful friend or notable indie dope they can rope into this (SIGRID)

Geegler won

>>114993588
is Geega the new Seth since he can't show his face anymore?

>>114993588
sounds fishy. nothing about sponsorships or helping with legal work.
>service reviews from other creators
so it's @everyone help! but no one will respond.
Sounds like a club that hopes the clubmembers will fix each other problems instead of really the club owner/staff doing anything.

Networking. talents will hope they can connect with other creators on the paid discord server but that's all.

Sounds like a hotbed for getting exploited, hopefully nobody with a good heart is applying to this shit and just the greedy clout chasers. Those types can get scammed all day for all I care.

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>>114998528
hot

>>114993588
This reads like those fitness influencers who sell "courses" on stuff that is incredibly obvious and free to find online

>>115002442
MODS THERE POSTING MUDDY CUNTS

>>115002622
but enough about you

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>>115002638
That's not mud

>>115000753
she DARED to collab with kirsche, not pol stuff was done, just some chatting, but if you like kirsche then you're a nazi according to twatter and reddit.

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>>114995413
>A phase talent glazed a phase advice stream
You people are so simple minded, no wonder you seriously thought Shondo would be your gf for life before she paid off her house.

>>115002936
>phase talent makes a stream saying this is how you get hired by a small corpo
>girl interested in becoming a corpo vtuber watches it
>implements that knowledge in her audition & interview
>gets offered to join multiple small corpos
>joins the one of the girl who made the blueprint vid
really eimi is just smart

>>115000940
any retard who buys this deserves to lose all their money unless they are offering one on one consulting and really promotions which i doubt she will offer. mythic all over again if they do not hire enough managers to handle all of this it will look like a scam which it already does

>>114993588
This is such an obvious scam and is labeled as such, all this management talk is worth nothing to beginners, what are they gonna say to 0 views who stay 0 views after following their useless advice? pay another 200 and try harder? The truth is that you have it or you don't, nobody out there is going to make you a star unless you are already one yourself. Read some tutorials online and use those 200 to keep yourself on air that's the only realistic use of money for someone who just started.

it's paid "course" or "pay" to network with bigger streamers, and "pay" to collab

>>114995600
On paper Cyberlive was a better contract but their business model was flawed and they had basically no capital.

just do some earlicking ASMR for a bit, and then slowly do variety, it'll get you some viewers and get partnered

>>114999407
based leaflit AI enjoyer

>>114993588
https://x.com/chromuchromu/status/1447094849166090242
Chromu cucks

>>114993588
After learning that the 4 girls who were supposed to join vshoujo did it because they all fell for the talent freedom meme particularly Tori. This is go great and get a ton of people to join and support it no matter what its about.

>>114993588
Another thing for the indies to fuck up lmao

>>115007972
>former vshoujo
2 years from now it'll come out she wasn't providing the support she promised, took the fees anyway, demands extra money from the girls for trying to graduate etc. All the typical blacked company stuff.

Geega and her clique are super retarded. Smarter vtubers like Stronny tried this with pure benevolent intentions and still failed, Geega will be more like Eien project.

>>114993588
This is basically her selling a course with some additional benefits thrown in. Self improvement gurus and finance scammers used to do this crap all the time. Same with Tate's Hustler U.
Granted, $100 is not as bad as the thousands that those dudes charge, but the value is very dubious. "Talent Development" is not what I'd use to describe it.

the google dockeys this scam will produce in the future will be priceless

>>115002936
I want to glaze shiina's face if you know what i MEAN

>>115008070
200

>we're so cool and nice we're only charging you a fee of $200 a month for all of these awesome benefits instead of taking a percentage like all the other big bad agencies/managers
>almost all of the people who are signing up have made like $79 in the last year
Can't believe people fall for this shit, shame on every vtuber taking part in shilling it.

>>115008174
Is it 200 now? That's worse.

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>>115008722
I don't know but it looks like it, didn't try to it our myself

>>114993588
This will fail from the simple fact that she hasn't actually thought of the incentive structure of how she is supposed to police the talent if it's a management spotify subscription.

Just feels like those community servers will have high school drama and geega will have to shut this down within a year.

>>115008838
$200 a month???? this is hustlers university but with a less charismatic idiot at the helm.

>>114993588
>Not just your other talent management company!!
I'll give a year.

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You know what's the best thing about this scheme? those 0-1viewtards don't really have a platform or fanbase to complain to on social media. even if they do, they'll just be labeled as the biggest morons by geegacucks trolls

>>115008722
base price apparently was like 100 bucks? so halve that for the discount or so

I figure it sounds like something you'd buy for one or two months at most, learn what you can, and then leave.

>>114993588
geeg

>>115014441
$100 FOMO special, normal price $200

>>115014632
Is there a source for that?
The one image I saw about the price was 100 as the cheapest, with 200 as the priciest tier (for whatever that's worth)

seth's newest grift

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https://imgur.com/a/LWmIZE6
Someone paid the money and shared screenshots of some stuff on the Discord server.
The "Guides & Tools" channel is just a bunch of links to videos created by other streamers and freely available o nYoutube.
And besides Geega, the other admins/staff are:
>Realchair, a TCG Shop Simulator modder
>Netto, a literalwho 2view
>Oshi(ball), a literalwho 2view
>Garek, flesh streamer who averages <200 viewers when not streaming Nopixel GTAV
>walnutcast, a flesh streamer who averages ~200 viewers when not streaming Nopixel GTAV
There may be more, but this is all that I see in the screenshots that someone else uploaded

>>114993588
Why anyone has any trust in this woman is beyond me. Anyone presenting themselves as knowledgeable, well spoken while trying to sell you something doesn't see you as a human. Only a number. She's a used car salesman. Simple as.

>>115017025
>She's actually getting people to pay $200 a month for some youtube videos on how to use OBS

>>115017025
Holy fuck anyone who falls for this grift has to be the most retarded person physically imaginable. Anyone who has defended this at this point looks like a complete moron. This also cements my opinion of Geega just being a scammer who came into vtubing looking for an easy mark. Thanks Zen she couldn't have done it without you.

Jumping the shark a bit. Her other company, Sponsorbot is pretty successful. Wait and see.

>>115000969
she said on stream earlier today there is a hard cap

>>115017641
zen is one too. birds of a feather.

>>115017669
Artificial scarcity creates the appearance of demand

>>115017655
>Sponsorbot is pretty successful
Technically it's still in closed beta, but I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes part of this Level One thing later.
As it stands right now though, it's working because it does not require a vtuber/their fans to pay money. Instead, the vtubers are getting paid (plus a free game key).

>>115017025
>The guides are just links to tweets and YouTube videos
Holy shit this is so worth $200

>>115017025
LMFAOOOOO

>>114993588
To call it "talent development" is a stretch

>>115018604
Wallet enlightening.

>>115017025
Grimmi needs to become an affiliated reseller.

>>115017025
art of deal type shit

>>115017025
you can learn all of these from random jeets on yt for free, why the fuck would you pay this bitch 200$ for this bullshit

Man I hate shit like this so much
It wasn't enough that you already achieved stardom and being set for life? You just had to scam people who are worse off than you? Just... why? When is enough, enough?
Modern humans are so broken and it's so fucking depressing to see this greed encroaching on vtubing

>>115022111
She is a filthy whore and needs her teeth to be kicked in, thats why. Some people only respect force and until they experience it, they act like "ahhhh the world is my playground!".

>>115022111
This is the kind of shit i don't get. Getting to a place where you are comfortable, getting the choice of making other people's life more miserable/less miserable and STILL making the choice of fucking with others. At the very least just stop getting involved, is it that hard to just go into the sunset and enjoy your life? Is it not enough to enjoy things, you just need to fuck it for other people? I have always asked myself what i would do if i won big money and the answer i have come up with is that i would feel an immense pressure to actually help people in my community. Does this pressure make people so upset that they act maliciously towards those in their nearest community? As in "i'm upset that i am feeling this way towards my fellows that i will punch the nose to spite the face?". Or am i just thinking way too hard on this?

>>115022111
>Modern humans are so broken
all humans are broken including me and you. We lie, we steal, we lust after having more and having what others have. Dostoevsky wrote nicely: human, bipedal, ungrateful. The question is: can something that is inherently broken fix itself? I don't think so

>>115022111
Deserves to have her mansion set on fire and all doors nailed shut while she is asleep.

>>114993588
I know I said I would never scam again but here's my new scam.

>>115021868
Because she talks like pirate software and is overconfident in everything she says. By the way she supposedly also had cancer.

>>114993588
i dont know why people would give a shit about the company behind the management of vtubers
is it just e-celeb gossipfaggotry

>>115017025
Yeah, between this shit and her proximity to Seth, she's 100% a scammer and this is blatantly trying to exploit clueless 0/1views. It's kind of a pump and dump thing since I'm sure retention will fall off a cliff by month 2, after everyone joins and finds out how little benefit this actually provides, but it's a passive/"innocent" scam that most people won't take major offense to and call out. She and the others shilling it need to have their shit lit up.

>>115023201
>it's a passive/"innocent" scam
That's just a business with a weak product

geega will part ways a short while later stating she was overworked and stressed from the work and then later it will turn out to be a scam and everyone will throw a pity party

>>115017025
Did they leaked it on twitter?

>>115022111
How do you think she achieved all those "stardom"

>>115022469
>all humans are broken including me and you
nigga you gay
but seriously this is a pathetic, whinging opinion

>>115023451
Perhaps there's a white man she can blame for it.

>>115023170
>Nothing to see here, stop talking about it

>>115023803
There's two white male fleshies she can blame this idea on. Because why the fuck do two gtarp streamers know jack shit about vtubing

>>115017025
Shouldnt those channels be made aware that someone is selling links to their public videos like they own them?

>>115023830
She may regret the wording in the announcement
>MY NEW PROJECT
>I'm starting
>I made this

>>115023943
Give it a couple weeks and she will throw everyone under the bus with excuses

She didn't even take the time to record her own "tutorial" vids?
What a lazy cunt.

What exclusive help are these retards even paying for?

>>115017655
Yeah, I think the reactions to this are very knee-jerk. We'll see how it really is in a month or two.

>>115023825
explain why I gotta care about this shit (for vtubing)
without sounding like a dramatranny

>>115023451
100% no cap

>>115023451
I give it a year max

>>115017025
>>115017977
Staff are some of the people who promoted sponsorbot? Was that an astroturf?
https://x.com/nettomorph/status/2022106584768557131
https://x.com/GarekTwitch/status/2078347128401703128

>>115025741
that is so scummy

I said this in the other drama thread about this but the real purpose of this isn't tutorials, it's to enter the shitty little clique.
Seth has actively and purposely tried to turn vtubing into Hollywood cliques where you have to play retarded status games and brown nose to get access to anything or else you get black listed.
It's all theater kid drama shit.
Vshojo did it. MSM did it. The novel horizons people did it to keep the scam going.
Geega is a pawn of Seth just like Grimmi is, though I think he's discarded that toy for the next idiot.

It really doesn't matter if this service is good or not because it's real purpose is creating that sphere of influence

>>115026614
So what's his goal with sponsorbot, to monopolise sponsors so that the in crowd exclusively get the good ones?
To play some kind of social mind game where you had to advance cliques to access better sponsors?

>>115026900
NTA but just watch, they're going to move Sponsorbot access behind the Level One membership

the heck is sponsorbot? is it literally what the name says: a bot that finds vtubers sponsors?
my oshi rarely whores herself out for sponsors. find an oshi who is not really for sale.

>>115026900
>to monopolise sponsors so that the in crowd exclusively get the good ones
In some ways they have already done this. They've signed an exclusivity deal with Koei Tecmo America, meaning that any (North American) sponsorship for KT games has to exclusively go through Sponsorbot.

>>115026900
The goal is no sponsors unless you're indebted to the twitch clique

>>115026614
The sad part? Coqui tried to warn everyone about him 3 years ago and she was met with laughter and alienation.

vtubing is in a strange space to where I don't think we are far off from seeing literal sponsorship logos on default outfits.

as it is these indie/small corpo concerts have advertisement feces smeared all over them.

>>115027076
>as it is these indie/small corpo concerts have advertisement feces smeared all over them.
I never saw any during any of the Oshispark concerts.

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>>115027076
holy fucking projection

>>115017025
spiritually indian

>>115027123
I saw them with Fantastic Reality, Bonnie Barkswells 3d debut, Lisa's concert, recent v4m 3d concerts (very strange there was an ad break for a phase connect themed trading card game in the middle of it) etc etc

>>115027016
an app/service that matches sponsors with streamers using metadata to find 'suitable' matches.

>>115027197
>Fantastic Reality
I watched Doki's concert and didn't see any sponsor ads

>>115027249
so basically a mailing list?

>>115027301
not doki's concert, but during the day 1 concert there was a 1min ad for iriam

>>115027301
Fantastic Reality Found Futures it's all throughout it
https://youtu.be/1r4Y17LIETA?t=1730
>presented by IRIAM
>presented by IRIAM
>presented by IRIAM
>presented by IRIAM

>>115027364
>fat fleshie shilling Iriam in a half empty theatre for an ex-vshojo concert
i hate western vtubing so much it is unreal

>>115027071
was coqui the girl who whined about phase connect banning her or was that someone else

>>115027432
Coqui is the footjob legend

>>114993588
yay another scam

im telling you there's something about money that makes you a faggot degenerate.
>be set for life
>do whatever you want
>nahhh i think ill scam others less fortunate than me and fuck with em
holy shit people just have your fuck off money and leave others alone its not that hard. though i shouldn't be surprised shes a new Yorker living in a city turns you into a schizophrenic back stabbing freak

sponsors are tricky
when you have nothing starting out, you want your oshi to get some sponsors because it is validation that they are good enough for someone to pay them for a product.

but then after a certain point, you hope she makes enough money from her community that she is no longer for sale for chinese companies and stuff and just streams what she enjoys and youre not constantly being sold something like a podcast.

>>115025741
This is so fucking suspicious, it's like trusting a salesman's testimonial about a product they're trying to sell you.
It's a given at this point that anything with Geega's or Grimmi's name attached to it is going to have some sussy shit going on

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>>115027364
>>115027301
IRIAM was only involved in found futures if I remember right. Doki's concerts had no ads as far as I remember outside of the credits or glazing the members of the live band.
>>115027402
seethe

>>115027544
>doki
nobody has even talked about her except you. I never mentioned her once find where I did. I said Fantastic Reality had ads, and provided timestamps. Not my fault you were not aware.

also
>SPWN ad feces smeared right in the middle
kek

>>115027432
No Pippa and Shiina raid her sometimes

>>115027311
Supposedly it does some (probably vibe coded) algo magic that lets sponsors set out a series of requirements like metrics and matches with the 'right' streamer for their ad campaign

>>115027517
the scary part is that many of them actualyl think they are doing something GOOD to society with their scams
they lost all sense of money so 200 bucks just seems like chump change to them
and they think since they made that they ate wisdom by the spoon and their word is some holy mandate that carries so much worth that success is just garantued if you listen to them
when this shit goes under Geega will sit there 100% convinced that there is no fault on her side, she sold all her wisdom for literally nothing and people made it fail because they simply did not put in the effort

>>115027592
Doki's concert was part of Fantastic Reality. You should have specified "Found Futures" instead.
Also, all vtubers, be it Hololive, Phase, V4M, indies, small corpos, etc. will at least state where their 3D concerts are being streamed/performed. How else are people supposed to know where to watch it?

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My wife can do no wrong

>>115027764
the "A show" Fantastic Reality this year was Found Futures. Kou Mariya created Fantastic Reality, and whatever concert she is in is the main one. Found Futures was her concert and it was built around her.
That concert had no less than 5 Iriam sponsor drops in it.

>>115027795
You're wife is a retard.

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>>115027592
>>SPWN ad feces smeared right in the middle
That's literally where you buy the tickets.
>>115027836
Genuinely how is it a problem? for a minute or so of plugging the event, you get a full concert from people who wouldn't normally be able to do one themselves.

Also I guess Doki DID do a proper ad during her concert because like every event she always reminds people to buy her merch.
I really liked the cd charm

>>115028136
you're the kind of consumer who likes ads on sports uniforms or digiorno logos on wwe mats or slim jim logos on tables
you're exactly the kind of person who would buy geega's program

>>115028196
Life is pay to win bro
Nothing wrong with Geega's program

>>115028196
I don't care about the ads. I care about the vtuber(s) I like.
If ads help them continue to make the content I like and they aren't massively disruptive, then sure.
Why are you even here if you don't care about vtubers being able to do vtuber things?

>>115028196
corporate greed is FUN.

now, please enjoy Fantastic Realty 4 brought to you by IRIAM, where the final solo of the concert will be brought to you by Goddess of Victory: Nikke, with the house band being provided by DudeWipes

Dont forget to get your GamerSupps concessions outside and use promocode "FAT" to get 20% off your order, and if you download the app take an additional 6-7% off.

>>115027364
>Fantastic Reality and DokiDoki were some of the worst 3D concerts you will ever see
>sponsored by IRIAM
it is like everything that company touches turns to ass.
the Lionsgate of 3D.

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>>115028412
You keep trying to push this but everybody who went was raving about how good it was for weeks after

I don't understand why you bother

>>115027071
She was met with scorn and alienation because she was basically warning the ones who were willingly and actively participating in the theater kid secret club bullshit.
Heavenlyfather, Grimmi, Froggyloch, and several others. The ones who ignored her didn't want to get caught in the firestorm. A few actually did listen. Finnster left MSM immediately after hearing about Seth. I have suspicion that Grape helped with the downfall of MSM.
Anyone who got a lot of vshojo collabs out of nowhere that had a heavy Novel Horizons presence should be looked at with scrutiny

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>>115027795
>Geega WILL continue to succeed
>anons WILL continue to desperately beg and plead for her downfall
>every ligger WILL join Geegacorp and use Sponsorbot
One day her detractors will realize just how foolish they were for ever doubting her.

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>>115028544
>everybody who went
and what about the people who bought the streaming ticket?
i would imagine way more people bought streaming tickets than in person tickets.

>that webm
all those smoke and mirrors to cover up technically speaking one of the worst 3d concerts since the niji one. you're the kind of simpleton who gets distracted by lights and balloons.

>>115028657
>and what about the people who bought the streaming ticket?
same deal, anon.
Good luck finding anyone on twitter complaining about the concert.

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>>115028723
and plenty of anons on vt have been mocking the concert since it happened
but let me guess: that's just one guy it doesnt matter what he thinks?

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>>115000753
Made an ice joke once. Apparently ironmouse had a meltie about it and approached her directly and scolded her for it.

>>115028779
>but let me guess: that's just one guy it doesnt matter what he thinks?
Yes, actually. He was even whining in positive threads about the concert, crying how people shouldn't be enjoying it.
Meanwhile, people with actual confirmed history, names, and that were guaranteed to be separate people enjoyed themselves and loved the western styling and setlist.

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>>115025741
no? I know phase connect uses it. can't you guys do simple research?

can you go post somewhere else? this thread has nothing to do with Dokibirds shitty concert we all had our laugh at it last month.

This thread is about GEEGA and Seth, thank you.

>>115028885
>stop asking me to support my arguments! I know I can't do that and it's making me look bad on this anonymous forum!

>>115028865
>phase connect
it is likely up to the individual talent if they want it, not the company. some talents spam low level sponsorship every week, others dont ever touch sponsors unless the agency forces them to.

>>114993588
reading that it just seems like most indies would still be better off going solo anyway

>>115022212
>>115022469
Nice to see I'm not the only person who feels this way. Seeing people like geega behave this way reminds me of a quote I like
"After basic needs are met, the best things in life are free"

>>115028865
Netto and Garek are part of Phase Connect?

I think lvl1 requires affiliate status so they're not praying on zero views. But there's probably an ocean of 20ccv andies who might. And who knows, if you can hold 20ccv maybe you do have some potential to entertain.
I've seen some 1views with perfect setups. Good computer, good Internet, good mic, half decent model with a gimmick. And they're absolutely terrible at streaming or being entertaining. So maybe the ones who make it over that hump could use some tricks.
The fact that geega isn't even recording videos for this is fucking hilarious though.

>>115022111
Rich people have ALWAYS been like that. Is in the bible: you should never trust the rich because they always want more, that's how they got rich. The idea that the rich wouldn't steal from you because they have money is a myth. All of them are walking with a bag of money that was taken from you since you were born.

inb4
>we decided to add tiered pricing for those who want more.
>Never takes accountability.
>Throws managers under the bus.
>only hires men as managers while also saying "A woman would have never messed up this bad."
>steps away from her position so she doesn't have to eat her words and "advice" she gave vshojo.

>>115028885
We've pretty much worn ourselves out on unsubstantiated rrats about Geega being part of an evil secret shadow cabal that's trying to destroy the indie scene for her own nefarious gains. Now we simply have to wait to see if it really happens, or it's just another normal successful business like Sponsorbot.

With the information presented here what's the over under on sponsorbot having some sketchy bullshit behind it? Anything that seems to involve this woman so far has been revealed as some grift at a later date.

>>115025741
>"I LOOOOOOVE Geega's Sponsorbot! It's made me so much money!"
>t. Billy Bob, Staff at Geega's Level One Corp.
>Geega: "W testimonial"
Holy mother of red flags

>>115028586
>Grape
close but after finnster left and jabroni mike she acquired some info

>>115027076
NASCAR vtuber could be kino

>>115033195
pippa is planning for next year since one of the drivers is a capipi