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I get why the idea is exciting for her fans, but being exciting on paper doesn't necessarily mean she's an obvious fit for the roster.
I just watched her most-viewed stream and frankly, I'm not sure I'm seeing the level of polish you'd expect from someone stepping into an environment like Hololive. There's something there, but it still feels fairly raw, and I think she'd benefit from spending more time developing her craft.
Maybe a few years of experience and refinement could make the difference. Five years from now who knows? Right now, the jump to Hololive feels like a much bigger leap than some people are making it out to be.
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>>115184195
She's a true weaboo like Fuwamoco. It's just what we have been waiting for.
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>>115184195
They're coping hard, because realistically, it's NijiEN or a new corpo.
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>>115184195
it's pure cope, hololive is done with EN. They wouldn't be debuting a new branch after dismantling it, that would be peak retardation
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>>115184195
There's literally nowhere else for her to go and she genuinely likes doing idolshit.
Girl could probably buy phase or niji if she wanted and no other corpo could give her anything she couldn't have gotten herself
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>>115184195
Because saying a 440k sub indie is dumping it all to join Phase or NijiEN is just a shitpost. Not to mention Nene gets past Hololive's implied distaste for EOPs
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>>115184752
retard
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>>115184195
Because only Holo would be an upgrade from what she already has. Then again a lot of these women make retarded decisions so maybe she is joining some shitter corpo like niji or phase.
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>>115184866
>440k
dead shorts subs. What's next, holo is hiring Rye? The Tranny?
>indie
Only because she killed the company that was built around her
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nene is already in hololive, thoughbeit?
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>>115184195
They see big number on her ASMR and think all her streams have that viewership.
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What’s the point of having another EN gen after pulling the happy merge shit and having Kyoko stream in both EN and JP?
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>>115184195
Nigger still thinks holo has quality lmao erb and shiori are in hololive
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Niji - way too small
Phase - too small, if she joined she would be an invader
Who else would it be?
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>>115185350
>Who else would it be?
If she hadn't called out being a vtuber specifically, I would say flesh idoling. She has a Japanese record contract already. Look it up.
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>>115185279
>nd having Kyoko stream in both EN and JP?
That's not lasting long.
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>>115184195
I hope she isn't. I got fed up with her clickbaiting years ago.
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>>115184195
I only want it to happen so /lig/ melts down so hard that it breaks the board
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She has nothing to offer phase and phase has nothing to offer her, is friends with Fuwamoco, SPEAKS JAPANESE among other advantages.
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Nene is the only non ex holo indie to have a thread on the tower, it was always going to happen.
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>>115184593
No one is going to nijien because it's trash for gfe streamers.

>>115184839
>Girl could probably buy phase or niji if she wanted and no other corpo could give her anything she couldn't have gotten herself
>buy
Are you retarded
This is why cloudtomos suck, you're all dumb kids (derogatory).
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>>115184195
As an ex-small corp indie, she and her genmates made a decent cut for themselves. So there isn't much to improve.

NijiEN tends to treat girls poorly
Phase may not do much even as an invader
And she ain't esports enough for VSPO EN
And nearly every other western org dies sooner or later.

So if it isn't Hololive, then some JP org.

And if a lack of polish is an issue, then we wouldn't see Biboo (talented newbie) or Shiori (Western OG.... and that's it) in EN. And I suspect someone in the company wants an AMSR talent that actually does it
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>>115186086
I'm sorry. I forgot /vt/ can't fathom basic concepts like hyperbole.
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>>115185279
because you're another retard who thought getting rid of the individual labels meant they "killed" english gens
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>>115185462
assuming a new "global unit that speaks english" is debuted next year with nene amano and various other whores in it, kyoko would have plenty of bilingualoids to hang out with like Irys and Kiara and the JPoids in her own unit and the various existing JP members.

If holo keeps hiring bilinguals there is no reason for her to not be bilingual, it's literally leaving money and her gimmick on the table.
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>>115185121
I thought Gen 3 bailing did that
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>>115186124
>sorry I was only PRETENDING
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>>115184195
Because she's bigger than phase and no intelligent creature joins nijien in 2026
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>>115186160
Are you an actual child?
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>>115186189
We have seen women making terrible decision these years and more so recently so we can’t discard Nene doing a stupid decision too.
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>>115184195
Wouldn't Nene be one of the bigger faces to join holo on the english side if she did get in? I'm just basing on channel size prior to debuting
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>>115184195
Holos entire thing is finding rough gems in the indie sewer and lifting them up though
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>>115186243
If we don't count Gura PL, I assume Fauna/Cece/Raora are probably some of the larger Indies that have joined.
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>>115186284
Neither Shondo's clique nor V4Mirai are the "indie sewer."
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>>115186284
Not so much these days; they largely go go for known entities with the occasional crude gem of raw talent. Nene easily counts as the former.

>>115186322
Her PL was likely like Gura, blew up in a freakish fashion, thus her issues with her popularity
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>>115186395
Biboo was a literally who and about as small as you can get, Nene is a monster in comparison
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>>115186322
There's a lot more than that.
Off the top of my head, Mumei, IRyS, and ERB were also relatively large in their circles (Mooms already having a million subs pre-holo), though I'm pretty sure Nene would be top 5 for HoloEN(former) hires in terms of subs at least.
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>>115186423
Hence the gem remark; she's in the latter category, an exception.
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>>115186581
rissa as well
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>>115186581
That's fair I was assuming we were just looking at Vtubers.
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Process of elimination:
It can't be Phase, because she could just join as an Invader and keep her already strong brand.
NijiEN doesn't focus on idolshit, which she's been pushing for years, and probably makes more than a lot of the girls combined..
And she's too big to redebut into any of the other small corpos.
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>>115186618
So the entire point of the OP and her somehow not being "ready" for holo is retarded
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To leave her well deserved throne of queen of vtuber asmr to join fucking phase connect or any other smaller corpo would be the dumbest fucking thing any vtuber has ever done, EVER. Its either Hololive or she's becoming a proper irl idol. Or she won the powerball jackpot and will be taking me specifically on a romantic honeymoon.
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>>115184752
They're still in the English market, retard. They didn't exit the market just by doing a merger. If they REALLY wanted to leave the market they would have done what they did with China, which was graduate the talent while axing ythe branch. This is a MERGER where the old talent remained and STILL SPEAKS ENGLISH. And the debut of Kyoko only proves that they're pushing English content, even if it will be a bit more subdued.
Holo is still in the EN market, and I do think they had been planning this English speaking unit for a long while now, even before the merger.
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>>115185121
>holo is hiring Rye

That would be THE FUNNIEST SHIT EVER
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tl;dr because OP is a retard

Nene Amano is the fauna killer. Fauna messed up by graduating (but she also had the LLD, so whatevs). Nene Amano is her replacement, and from what I understand, is superior at ASMR
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>>115186965
That'd be a bigger shock than Nene graduating as the whole Yuko incident likely made her a red flag in many books, including fans. We may see an Aloe 2.0 if that were to happen
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She is replacing Fauna.
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>>115186680
Add that Cover has debut multiple gens in succession before
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I would HATE to see her as a holo. The ASMR would be shit and lackluster, if it would even exist at all.
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>>115187020
Karma for Fauna taking the best ASMR award away when she hadn't done ASMR for a year at that point. Nene cried when she found out she was nominated.
excuse the r**dit link but I can't link the stream anymore obviously
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1h0nhzt/nene_amano_finds_out_she_was_nominated_in_the/

Nene is the sweetest girl, never make her (sad) cry Yagoo or I will find you
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>>115187166
Karma? If I remember right, Fauna told people outright not to vote for her since she hadn't made ASMR in like a year at that point.
You can blame the saplings if you want to blame somebody, I guess.
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>>115187226
Fauna's graduation was the big news story at the time, she was as hot as she could ever be
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>>115187166
>Nene is the sweetest girl
she's a snake
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>>115187099
You seem to overlook people here batching about her not going far enough in her AMSR.

>>115187226
ENers doing ENer things
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>>115184195
Nah Maaru was a 50-90 ccv indie for years when she became Chloe , If you past the test , you past the test
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>>115187419
And then became an example of why they should be pickier
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>>115187020
You'll get asmr for 2 months and never again
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>>115187739
Not their fault YouTube is been so homosexual to nuke everything ASMR
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>>115187351
people will gloss over this but unironically she did show her colors when her corpo was imploding and it turned me off of her a lot
I get the GFE and shit is fake but I couldn't suspend disbelief and enjoy it anymore knowing what she's really like
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> phasewhores in replies
It's over
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>>115186423
That was years ago it’s a different company now
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>>115187914
Anon... that was her kohai and almost genmate
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>>115187379
There's plenty of other girls for that even more lewd ASMR. Nene always hit that perfect spot for me that could maybe exist in Holo years ago, but I just don't see them letting her stay the same in those regards. Okayu was one of the few Holo girls I watched, but her asmr isn't really a thing anymore.
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>>115187843
what'd she do? I wasn't around then...
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>>115184195
>>115184866
if she can speak japanese then debut in a big JP corpo for japanese audience is still possible, it's just that hololive just debut newbies few days ago so her retirement now makes no sense as the next holo debut is probably at least a year from now, not counting Mekpark is still in the waiting line, from her word in the graduation post and her unicorn pandering contents, it feels like it will be hololive but who know, maybe she will debut in nijiJP if she can speak japanese and live in japan
anycolor's CEO said he will focus on EN market with their japanese vtuber in the future not long ago so the chance of they are hiring a bilinguals with sizeable EN audience is possible, and nijiJP is still lucrative enough for a big indie like her, they even have a female idol audition few months ago so it seems like they are turning in an unicorn pandering niche now
though it also can be some raising star middle size corpo in japan like Millipro who know
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>>115187992
She started saying the F word instead of fruit sometimes
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> all star lineup
Izigenia will surpass phase in 2 years
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Nene…no…
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>>115184195
>seiso
>GFE
>ex-JP corpo
>relatively big
>owns her channel but has to abandon it now

well what are the other options, V4Mirai?
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>>115184195
this just doesnt make any sense, even hololive wouldnt be such a step up from what she has right now, im genuinely confused
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I wish Phase had just absorbed Kawaii
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>>115188140
sometimes it's not about steps up, it's about money
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>>115188099
>>all star
the only one I know is in for sure is Daiya and she's a rave slut who partied with Saiken at offkai
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>>115188140
Holo would give her resources she doesn't have
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>>115188140
>even hololive wouldnt be such a step up
they spent $40k on a concert this month and it got 700ccv
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>>115184195
I have a better question - why does anyone care?
Her ASMR is so bad I've had to force myself to watch it because certain people (fuck you EB) insisted it's good. It's not good. She sucks ass.
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>>115184195
Coping mechanism from her simps. She is a 3view ASMR vtuber. Hololive doesn't hire ASMR vtubers anymore, the last was Fauna. They would literally be shooting themselves in the foot because YouTube randomly attacks ASMR streams.
Realistic scenario is that she got hired by some other company, or found herself a you know what.
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>>115187795
Not that it stops Patra

>>115187986
Hard to say as I don't super follow every girl (Lamy, Noel) though I can say that Aki, Roboco and Choco have dialed back on that for various reasons (though in the AkiChoco program there's maybe bits). But it may be different for someone who wasn't whacked by the AMSR crusade.

>>115188071
>Niji
>Treating 97% of its female livers better than third class

>>115188140
She likes singing so it's a natural progression and Hololive loves singers
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>>115188499
FWMC was even smaller and more niche
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I hope she goes to holo because I don't watch her and I don't like her content. I'm losing nothing lmao.
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>>115187914
Oh no no no no
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>>115184195
wouldn't it make more sense she's going to phase?
look the facts
fraiki graduated and is 100% confirmed to be joining phase
some others (who admittedly i don't know) have also now graduated, along with Nene
that's enough for a new gen
so it's EXTREMELY likely that they'll all be with fraiki, joining phase
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I don't hate Nene but she is not Hololive EN material. Granted, most recent girls are also not good enough for that company. The only ones I can say we're good hire in last few years are Fuwamoco and Bijou, since twins is an unique choice and Bijou actually streams a lot and filled that much needed Gura spot. All the others either don't stream enough or are not entertaining as vtubers. I guess Gigi can be considered entertaining if you think loud = funny, in which case I will admit she was a fine pick, but her loud granny voice is a big pass for me.
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>>115188740
>>115187914
>rooting for Nene "most boring ASMR in the biz" Amano
I sure hope she's not coming to Phase. Clara was bad enough.
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>>115188744
>fraiki graduated and is 100% confirmed to be joining phase
Really? What are the hints?
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>>115184195
nothing else will make you drop stuff than going to Hololive.

She very recently got new merch out, so this was a surprise graduation for me.
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Where are these Nene fans coming from, even /pkg/ turned against her long time ago
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>>115188106
she recently debuted 2 new models, this graduation feels too soon. must be something important worth abandoning stuff you built over 5+ years
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>>115188744
Phase would be a step down as she'd have to get in line for a 3d model and Phase doesn't have a ton of resources for music stuff like Hololive.

>>115188814
And the likelihood of inadvertently kneecapping her genmates (she is to Eonia what Fubuki is to HoloJP Gen 1)
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>>115188855
would be funny if phase immediately gave her all that, after what happened with anya
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>>115184195
How about a quick rundown?
And where is the proof,
you dumb TOXIC CHUD?
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>>115187914
Having so many Phase vtubers replying like this is so weird. Did any of those girls ever collab or even talk to Nene before? Cuz if not this just screams fake to me. I doubt they actually give a shit she is graduating unless she is joining their company.
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>>115188855
I don't know why she would give up her old stuff to join, she's worth much more to Phase as she is. It has to be something bigger
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>>115188998
Malice is her former kouhai. I don't think she collabed with Shiina, and I don't even know who Nasa is honestly, first time seeing her.
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>>115188998
It's not that weird. If you're in any of the members streams of the girls, you know that they talk pretty regularly with Phase.
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>>115189008
EXACTLY. This is why people are thinking Hololive; for someone like her its basically the only way to move up in her areas
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It should be holo but after tanya I'm convinced EN indies can make incredibly retarded decisions.
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>>115188990
Well because if it was Holo's intention to start hiring JP speaking EN talent, then Nene would be like the #1 option on the list. That is the first and most prominent name everyone would be bringing up.

Frankly I found Nene's stuff unlistenable because she was doing the dual language thing
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>>115189057
Hmm Nene is normally such a strategic schemer I didn't even consider the possibility, but she's still a woman, so I guess it's possible that she's just doing something completely retarded.
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>>115188998
Only the smaller, fully independent Kawaii girls we have anything to benefit from joining Phase. I firmly think they should if only to expand their social network and grab new slices of audience, even if that comes at a significant hit to income. Hell, Nami and Isla should be onboarded for no other reason than the technical skills they can provide on retainer.
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>>115188814
Yeah , pregnancy is that important
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I think Nene ASMR is fine but only issue I had is that she never did earlicking at all. Now if she joins a company it's never gonna happen. She seriously blueballed us to the very end.
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Nene is too boring for hololive
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nene is a shitted whore. she’d fit right in with hololive
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Izigenia
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Nene "solo trip to Jamaica" Amano
holocucks love whores like Kiara so I'm sure she'll fit right in
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>>115188099
aren't they all flops so far?
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>>115189239
that would be like Michael Jordan joining your local baseball team in the suburbs.
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>>115189258
I hope this is true
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>>115189276
It is, she even said she wants to do it again
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>>115184195
what if she joins phase to whore out and stop doing gfe asmr content
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>>115189223
It was barely funny the first few seething replies anon , you can stop now
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>>115189322
this i believe given her past and the fact lua is in phase and did the same shit
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>>115189139
I've been begging, pleading God for more of them to join Phase.
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>>115189359
Charzu and Isla both would rather quit vtubing than to stream for the Phasefag audience and work for that faggot. You retards don't realize just how hated you all are
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Yeah I think it's pretty obvious Fishman got her. He must have given her some crazy money to make her leave the indie empire she built over the years. Still stupid decision in my opinion.
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>>115189397
I'm not even a phasekek, but half or more of their audience already watches people from that company and they're probably the only ones who will just take them as they are without needing to rebrand and start from scratch. They need the promotion and a sense of community to be more successful.
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>>115189418
>but half or more of their audience already watches people from that company
no they fucking dont
you should kill yourself
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>>115189435
Being part of an ecosystem really helped a lot of the kawaii girls and more than a few have said that it feels like they don't really have a place to belong since it has been gone. Eonia can't continue with just for three of them, all that aside.
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i see the phasebeggars have found the thread
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>>115189451
you should post this in their chats so they can ban your ass. you faggots dont deserve to live
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>>115189467
I would rather anybody else but Phase, but tell me how they're going to continue as a group with Nene gone and Reina on semi-permanent hiatus? If you were there you know this kind of stuff does affect them very strongly, they feel lonely man.
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>>115186086
>No one is going to nijien because it's trash for gfe streamers.
In the meantime, their two only gfe-lite streamers are among the top western superchat earners, mogging most of ex-HoloEN if not all of them. Just two of them are one of the reasons why HoloEN was earning less then NijiEN even during the lowest NijiEN times and forcing Yagoo not to release HoloEN performance in financial reports in shame, and now even forced the humiliating merge of all Holo branches. Imagine how much moggery would there be if NijiEN actually leaned into the gfe instead of having only 2 gfe-lite members.
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>>115189486
you don't even watch them faggot
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>all these phasebeggers
thanks for reminding me why I don't come here anymore
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>>115189525
must be nice being this delusional
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>>115189543
Alright brother, I'll see you again in members and we can pretend this conversation didn't happen.
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I find it hard to believe that some of you actually have any positive feelings towards Nene or Kawaii and this is just a fucking opportunity to pretend to be concerned while shitting on them.
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>>115189555
Your projection and cope level are staggering
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>>115189672
my feelings about Nene are basically that I'm not interested in ASMR, her singing isn't good enough, her GFE is too tame and her game streams aren't fun enough. But I respect her work ethic and I'm glad she's there to sell something lots of anons clearly want to buy.
Also I'm not too into the ditzy cute facade on top of a really cold and calculating woman thing, but that kinda comes with the territory, so I don't fault her for it.
I do think she'd only do this move if she got into holo, so obviously I'm not really excited about that, but maybe I'll be into one of her genmates.
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>>115189814
NTA, but I've seen this before and I still don't get it. Can you explain it to someone who doesn't play the game?
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>>115189722
HOLY BASED ANON
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>>115189880
you're not going to tell him shit as you have nothing to say
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none of the girls in phase have a boyfriend
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what is "boyfriend connect" even supposed to mean?
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I love SEA hours. Truly, the best discussion
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>>115184195
It's just a guess anon. She can still end up in phase connect
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>>115189931
why would that be a thing that ANYONE cares about though?
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ah, now this finally feels like /pkg/. It was just missing a nice pinch of cuckposting and tribalism
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>>115190021
price per message $10
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>>115189918
Wow. Kek. Thanks, anon.
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>>115185413
you can do flesh idoling while in holo, if she abandoned her channel to go all in on flesh idol... well that doesn't sound like the most rational decision
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>>115186117
she would make a great Fauna replacement cucklings have to feel uneasy
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>>115189950
imagine you hate something. imagine you hate something which such a fiery burning passion that it's all you think about from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to sleep, and then even when you sleep you dream about how much you despise this thing
for incels that thing is women, and finding out a woman they hate is happily in a relationship is like.. literally the end of the world for these people
if they were to create a list of the worst things that have ever happened in the history of humankind, they'd unironically put "i heard that woman i don't like has a boyfriend", right at the very top

those are the kind of people who post on this board. remember that the next time anything around here confuses you
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>>115189672
Welcome to /vt/ outside of some generals
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>>115189525
>t. least delusional nijinigger
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>>115186236
yea I would think Miori Celesta would also have a chance for holo but somehow she ended up in a normie job and some korean vtuber shithole instead
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>>115190084
There's a guy in corpo who tells them to just go see a whore and I honestly think it would fix a lot of them
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>>115187992
Project Kawaii had their own version of a black stream (before niji black stream) in which Nene participated among other talents but it was far from the same situation since gen 3 decided to just fuck off and do their own thing without asking anybody else, pretty shitty move.
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>Project Kawaii
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I think you are asking the wrong question OP, instead of wondering what other idiots think, rather ask yourself; if you were the hiring team at Hololive, would you hire her?
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>>115189180
with me, I'm her future child.
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>>115185311
ever since i started watching phase, i realized how mediocre hololive is
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>>115190224
yeah only phase girls cuck their audience this much
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>>115190235
So who isn't cucking you? I want to know what girl is considered safe for you.
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>>115189672
The halo of hololive extends to potentials
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>>115185121
>holo is hiring Rye
The piss drinker? No thanks
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>>115190264
>eternally immortal
for two weeks
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>>115190313
So who is clean?
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>>115190313
I know you're obsessed with cucking monkey boy, so I found a good vtuber for you. It's just 5 bucks so even you can watch her.
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>>115190335
No I'm asking you who do you know that's not engaged in any of this?
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>>115190356
don't ask a literal schizo any serious question
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>>115190358
no need to thank me. Go wild monkey boy.
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>>115184593
A new corpo wouldn't redebut a well known vtuber under a different alias, maybe a few years ago they would but nowadays a new corpo would precisely try to bank on having a couple of recognizable names on their roster to draw attention.
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>>115190371
I'm not deflecting, I accept it. Who's on your list for good to watch?
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>>115190384
How can it not be your style when you bring up cucking unprompted pretty much every day?
Now you're just lying to yourself.
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>>115190394
You know he doesn't watch anyone
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>>115190445
Sir I accept what you say, I'm asking you who I should move on to. Why can't you give me a name?
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>>115190470
Just go and watch that hemmi girl and get it out of your system monkey boy. It's for your own good.
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>>115190469
>>115190445
Come on, tell me who makes the cut. I believe everything you're saying, I just want to know who I should actually be a fan of.
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holofag here
what the fuck is going on in this thread lmao
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menace is better than nene
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>>115190606
I'm just shocked that you can't name a single person that you enjoy. I'm not disputing anything you're saying, but since you're such a discerning guy I figured you would have somebody that you approve of. Instead I kind of see you running away
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>>115190601
Ligmelty
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The crazy thing is we should have had Nene Amano in Council, which she applied for but Omega was only hiring homo compliant girls. If you notice Council is a 5/5 Holostars collaber gen, she Nene could have lost to Lemonlelaf for the Fauna slot purely on her no male policy
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>>115190660
he's so into cucking that he even cucks himself out of watching anyone
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God I missed you /pkg/schizos. Please come home
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>>115190678
saying that anyone but Kronii and Bae are homocollabers is just disingenuous
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>>115185266
Hololive doesn't look just at numbers, they look at other talents and how entertaining they are. Biboo used to be a 3view in a good day.
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>>115190248
Your mom.
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>>115190728
But she's not entertaining either though?
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>>115184195
cause Hololive fits her like my dick would fit between those milkers, and she's not gonna settle for a small company like Phase or a dogshit one like Niji
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>>115190695
Do you watch anyone? I'm not fighting you man I just want to hear
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actual npc
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>>115190783
I guess school is out in SEA
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>>115184195
I bet izigenia did some black magic to convince her just like they convinced Miwa
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>>115190844
she's not as retarded as miwa
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>>115190871
>>115190783
>>115190695
>>115190445
>>115190371
>>115190335
qrd on this schizo?
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>>115190882
npc
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>>115190882
What's there to say. He's just mentally ill.
Menace region blocked his ass and probably wished him dead so he's mad.
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Shitposting used to mean something
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>>115186236
Miwa...
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>>115190918
Do you watch girls? Can you name me like a best five?
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>>115190918
nobody is squirming though
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>>115190932
You seriously don't have anything else in your script do you?
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>>115190954
You've done it, you've destroyed me with facts and logic. I will immediately oshihen. Just point me in the right direction.
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>>115190971
Oops sorry I clicked the wrong guy >>115190942
There you go.
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niji is finding a bilinguals for their nijiJP girls
see you there cloudtomo ^^
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>>115191011
So I'm going to guess that you don't actually watch girls, you're just here to be gay and brown. Could you post your hand? I'll post mine
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>>115191035
How is it shutting down anything? I'm agreeing with everything. 100% I agree and you're right. I'm asking a completely different question after conceding the point to you.
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>>115191061
I replied to the wrong guy, mistakes happen. I'm not defending her from anything, everything you say is correct. So can you answer my other question?
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All GFE chuubas are whores.
Why is that hard to accept?
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holy fuck some of you deserve to get shot irl
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>>115191073
Yes, I've been taken advantage of. I mean to change that now by moving on to somebody new, and I'm asking who you would recommend because I would rather not be in this position anymore.
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>>115184866
Daily reminder that Miori Celesta did something even dumber
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>>115191112
>>115191103
Okay, but I'd like to move on. Can you give me the name of *any* vtuber you'd recommend?
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>>115191143
>stay tuned
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>>115191143
This is actual bot behavior.
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she'd be perfect for hololive considering she speaks both languages fluently and she clearly said in her announcement that she's not leaving
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>>115184195
She has nothing to gain from joining nijien, phase, v4mirai or those.
She's already very well known and big enough. Her only true step up is holo. And she LOVES idol stuff.

Also she would be a fwmc nepohire
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>>115191241
She will replace Mococo
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>>115191245
Nah, I don't fuck with Menace, JP Holo only. You're just a seanig dramafag that can only say shit on repeat.
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>>115191241
If she gets into holo you are not gonna like what you see every holo gets massacred by the corpo bullshit unless they are top 1%
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>she deleted/unlisted her best ASMR videos
Idk how I should interpret this but hey
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>>115191241
If she's a foreigner she needs that professional visa. any jp company will do desu
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Joining holo is the most likely and logical answer but what if she wants to pivot away from GFE so she's just making a brand new indie persona to have a fresh start
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interesting how his posts started after the schizo menacefag got banned, almost like he got mad after getting banned and started doing it to falseflag
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What does Menace have to do with anything. Some ancient drama back when Cyberlive and Kawaii was a thing?
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>>115184195
You're retarded. Fact 1: she's a big indie. Fact 2: she's reincarnating and saying as much in her graduation announcement. Because of fact 1, there's only one place she can join that justifies discarding this persona. Any other place would try to get Nene's brand too for publicity.
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>>115191472
It's just one or two mentally ill sea schizos that anti menace.
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>>115191483
Yeah Phase is a sidegrade at the very best plus they would bring her in as an invader. NijiEN is a complete downgrade and all the other small EN corpos aren't worth mentioning
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>>115191483
Yeah I'm seeing people say Phase but unless they completely did away with Phase Invaders forever they could just straight up fold Nene into Phase and it'd be way more popular than a redebut
The only corporation that's a meaningful step up from being Indie that wouldn't take her past life in is Hololive, that's pretty much it.
I GUESS she could join Nijisanji but who does that in 2026
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damn, now we see who was samefagging
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>>115191517
Malice evermore was lua she didn't phase in she rebranded into phase. Nene probably wants to protect the nene character IP as it was said by herself to be her core identity and would make sense. That nene wants to keep ownership of it just remember that. So it could still very much just be another kawaii phase rebrand. Nobody can honestly say they know for sure so no point in pretending that you do.
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>>115184195
>polish
>Hololive, the embodiment of scuff.
LMFAO
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>>115191115
Miori has an extensive history of being a fucking retard.
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>>115191830
Lua was never super happy with being Lua and probably just took the chance to redo it all
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>>115190844
a bunch of money maybe? izigenia feels like a rich man's dream
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>>115191950
It's been almost a year and there's no sign of Malice getting tired of the fake bong accent. If anything, she's leaning even more heavily into it.

Also I have no idea how much she loves being Malice because she said on stream that she basically said yes to Sakana and management's inputs on her new model because she was so scared of losing her spot in Phase.
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>>115190844
Oh yeah , you just reminded me of that Miwa girl who liggercucks also swore it was Holo or nothing , look at her now
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>>115192297
>>115190844
Miwa? The Warhammer 40k pickme?
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>>115191515
How so? Not to defend Phase or NijiEN, but does anyone actually knows how much their members make a year? Keep in mind that there are much more to a VTuber's income than just donation
For all we know, what if Nene checked with her acquaintances (in private due to NDA) and knew that Phase & Niji members make a lot more than her?
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heh heh heh
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>Deleted her Dragon Age review video that went viral where she tore it to shreds
>She was super proud of it and tried multiple times to hit the algo jackpot again

Thats how you know its Holo. Their perms autism means you fucking know they wouldnt allow a member to have a recorded video of them absolutely shitting on another companies game
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>>115192624
holo fans wouldn't be okay with chud pandering videos like that one
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>>115192624
Nene truly is dead
Hopefully Hololive makes her do a stupid verbal tic again
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>>115192624
holy grim

Fuck Veilguard
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>>115192624
Taking shots at something popular is easy. Convincing a contrarian fanbase to love it? Now that takes talent.
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>>115192624
Veilguard streams were fucking amazing.
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>>115192624
fucking inquisition is her favorite game of all time, she only shat on veilguard because the whole internet was doing it
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>>115190393
Miori drooped her 508k subs channel to reincarnate in a micro corpo with exactly 1.6k subs and average ccv drop from 600 to 15
Never understimate how much these women can self destruct 5+ years of career like nothing
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>>115192998
miori was more mentally ill than your average korean woman
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>>115192854
Veilguard is just a shit game anon. No need to try and defend it.
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>>115184195
>Literally a sociopath and well known for her manipulative tactics
>Clique leader who has caused several corpos/associations to shut down
>Sabotages anyone who poses a threat or simply dislikes
>Attacks her own audience over any trivial matter that bothers her
It's basically all the bad stuff that corpo already has rolled into one person, a genuine corrupted idol. Kek please let it be that corpo, it would be the funniest way to see it go up in flames. But honestly, she's also pretty stupid and arrogant; she probably got herself involved in some other business. Either way, the chaos she causes is always entertaining.
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>>115192998
Her numbers are shit because she is forced to stream KR only on chzzk and korean unironically despise her and spitefully already tell her to fuck off back to america already so the growth there is negative and half of her ccv can't understand korean
When she will stream monstly in EN on youtube again and she will her numbers will pick up back fast
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>>115193156
She already had an english stream.
Peaked over 500 ccv and the youtube channel already has double her main chzzk doa account subs
Koreans can't complain if she will go back full time streaming English if they don't watch her she will stream for people who want to watch and support her
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>>115193285
her fans are actual subhumans for still watching her after everything jesus christ. these "people" really dont deserve to live, no wonder no vtuber actually respect their viewers
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>>115193285
it always happens when women try to stream to koreans, they attempt thinking "oh i'll be the woman the korean losers will want!" but it never works and they have to go back to EN or JP
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She's joining Filians new corpo
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>>115191251
I’d cum
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>>115193315
People still follow Saba Doobi Sachi Namie and unironically want Nimi to stream the wedding.
At least Miori fans will get some streams
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So is there an archive of Nene's ASMR anywhere?
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>>115193337
Sinon from Phase opened a chzzk channel and had almost 5k koreans watching her debut
They just really really hate Miori for some reason
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>>115184195
It just makes sense with how she emphasized the fact that she's reincarnating.
Why would she quit indie vtubing for any reason other than to join the biggest corpo?
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>>115184195
Hololive is not hiring EN people right now, they LITERALLY JUST DEBUTED talents. She's going to one of these smaller startups or Niji.
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>>115193659
And her ex fans don't hate her enough
>koreans are less cucked men with higher standards than the average westoid lonenly man
GRIM
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>>115194042
they’ve debuted groups a couple months after one just debuted before. doesn’t mean this is an indication that there will be one this time, but it’s something to keep in mind.
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>>115193285
>graduates and leave her GFE fans in the dust
>can't remake herself a proper new identity and goes back to the same people she wanted to leave behind forever
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>115194289
koreans are the ultimate incels, they know how evil women are because they have the most evil and insane women in the world
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>>115186965
that might actually get me to watch hololive again, Yuko was great when she actually gave a shit. some tard wranglers might whip her into shape
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>>115194707
And they are going to shower her in money too
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>>115184195
Excellent bait. It even got a ton of replies in 12 hours.
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>>115194042
These things usually have a three to four month lead time
a dec-jan debut would fit in nicely
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>>115184195
Holo is the only upgrade she has, unless she got promised a huge investment budget elsewhere.
The one thing that makes me hesitate on it being holo is that I don't remember any previous members being allowed to be this explicit about reincarnating. Though I suppose the rules might have changed.
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>>115195128
What would an investment budget really be worth in this market? Brave and Izigenia have thrown money at things and all they've done is eat shit.
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>>115189632
I applaud your patience, anon.
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>>115184195
Nene has been around a LONG time, and was reasonably successful.

You don't throw that away for nothing.
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>>115195537
The one thing I can imagine being worth it is if the company pays a decent base monthly salary + large monthly budget for personal projects.
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>>115194651
As you're behind:
>Merged everyone into one identity
>They debuted a group
What you're thinking of is when they debut JP/ID/EN/Side Project separately, this is no longer a thing. It's also too early for someone to start "training" for a next group.
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>>115195963
Gen 1, 2, gamers, and 3 debuted within an eight month period
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>>115194651
>>115196003
You are just making the grudgeposting so much easier at this point .
She is Phasing In
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>>115196176
>phasebegging
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>>115196003
>within an eight month period
Which is exactly why I said it's too early for them to scout or go through auditions, they just finished a debut.
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>>115196487
they have had open auditions for years now anon
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I can kind of see why some would mention Phase since two former Kawaii girls who are friendly with Nene have a contract there, one as a talent the other a manager, but lets be honest its probably not going to happen.
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>>115196913
you just never know for sure right? a lot of people didn’t think kitanya would graduate for phase, but she did.
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>>115184195
Because her going anywhere else but the blue Dorito would be a demotion. She was already pretty successful where she was, the only way she could go even further is to utilize the support and tools that only Hololive possesses rn.

Also, Terra 404 also just announced graduation, and I am sure some others have as well, there's your next EN gen right there.
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>>115184195
Delusional holokek. She's more talented that ALL holoEN whores besides maybe Irys.
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>open /vt/
>holobrowns are holobegging for indies that are doing well to join heir shitshow
Anything but watching the streams of the whores you already have walking around with the brand stamp on their ass.
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>>115184195
>I just watched her most-viewed stream and frankly, I'm not sure I'm seeing the level of polish you'd expect from someone stepping into an environment like Hololive.
What the fuck am I reading? If you saw fuwamoco's PL you'd say the same shit, they were amateur as hell. They even collabed with Nene. You admit you never watched her, go to her channel and just look at one video, then spew this retardation.
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Reminder women are stupid as fuck. You literally cannot exclude the "i have just suicided my career over empty promises from some no name start up" option
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>>115198046
Mio is a mentally ill korean woman
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>>115196970
Kitanya has literally 1/10th the subs of Nene, who has more subs than anyone in phase. Be realistic here.
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I think the worst part is losing her absolute sexo model
So fucking unfortunate
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Joining hololive is such a meme these days, no one expected anyone in Justice or Advent
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>>115198368
What are you talking about? 3/4 of the members of Justice were identified before debut based on the name and model alone lol. This shit is incredibly obvious
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>>115198046
Miori burned her success to get away from you faggots and the EN community. Women are stupid but every single graduated/reincarnated vtuber have said they hated their community. Think about that.
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>>115191447
Why would she hint at reincarnation then?
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>>115184195
nigga who?
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>>115198435
https://www.youtube.com/live/8WW4C1gQXtY
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>monkey paw curls
>she joins phase
>lig has a melty
>holofags have a melty
>nene fans have a melty
>phase fans have a melty as ohomie tier schizos shit up /pcg/
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>>115198477
Why the fuck she graduated to just come back after 2 months?
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>>115198323
Subs don't equal livestreaming performance or video views actually
Nene had tons of dead subs

Last year I saw someone comparing Nene's overall channel metrics to Pippa and apparently Nene was less than half of Pippa's metrics in almost everything with some being far worse despite the sub disparity
Video views, stream CCV, superchats, all much worse than Pippa
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>>115198537
watch the vod
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>>115198537
because she knew her retarded simps would forgive everything and run back to her anyway
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>>115198862
retard
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>>115198862
They didn't forgive her
Mio is basically dead in the water with her new persona
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>>115198902
they did though, did you miss the stream
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>>115198924
you also missed it if your idea of why she did an EN stream was because she knew her retarded simps would have flocked in
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>>115184195
>Nene can still get this much people talking about her in 2026 post hack
well done
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>>115198902
>They didn't forgive her
EN fans did and wants to support her
KR "fans" who are the people supposed to be her new main target audience in a KR only corpo wants her korean larping ass to graduate and fuck off
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>>115199035
Not Nene, but EN5. This is basically just a soft confirmation, who but Holo is “brighter and more beautiful” than a 450k sub channel?
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>doesn't lick ears
>doesn't masturbate
>doesn't paizuri despite having such a design

Irrelevant woman.
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go away Menace
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>>115198337
true, I never really watched her but the model is pretty peak.
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>>115184385
Fpbp
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>>115198641
do you really think sakana wouldn't be salivating at that sub count
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>>115199285
You can blame youtube for that. On twitch the whores still slurp on my ears like it's the asshole of a hairy, fat, old man.
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>>115194781
yuko "when she actually gave a shit" was just a temu pippa doing jerk off instruction streams
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>>115198862
forgive her for what? im kinda lost, i barely heard she was on hiatus, wtf did happen? she did a handcam with her ring on? KEK
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>>115199285
Zero paizuri JOIs despite that body should be illegal
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I masturbate to Nene's ASMR
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>>115200652
You're so brave for this.
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>>115198337
Look on the bright side: if she ever returns to indie, she has the PERFECT model to return to
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>>115192854
>fucking inquisition is her favorite game of all time
Anon, no. Umineko is. She replayed Inquisition on stream and discovered it sucked. We watched the cutscenes on youtube instead of finishing it KEK
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If she joins phase shit gg friggen ez
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>>115201100
She was basically burned by dragon age and bioware and is now angry at them for being so shit
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>>115202047
She liked Origins still on replay
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>>115192413
The successful nijis made enoguh for them to buy houses.
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>>115202273
Considering them successful just because they were able to buy houses in a 3rd world country is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
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>>115201100
>troonyneko
dropped
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She's way too idolpilled to be wasted on anything but holo, phasebeggars are hilarious as always



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