Amagai Ruka, formerly Sakamata Chloe from Hololive, has announced an indefinite hiatus of her activities due to physical and mental considerations
>>115190939we did it holobros
another holotraitor gone, good job holochads
Rewarded as a traitor deserves lol
>>115190939I have not been following her since she graduated. How has she been doing?
>>115190939that’s what you get for abandoning hololive
>>115190939The model downgrade from Chloe to Ruka was insane.
Nice holoLARPs
>>115190939She doesn't have the blue dorito branding, so I really don't care.
>>115190939I fucking miss Chloe so much, she was one of my favorites, but after she graduated I stopped caring. It's just not the same, and I think she was barely streaming anyway. Still, I hope she gets better from whatever health issues she has. But my gut tells me that maybe she just does not enjoy streaming to begin with.
>>115190939Weed and a good dicking would solve most of these bitches' problems
>>115191002chilling with her friend doing her thing. she also collabed with other ex holos but went inactive a month ago so this is no surprise
What the hell is up with girls quitting Hololive and not giving a fuck anymore, or suffering from some horrible affliction? It's like they either don't care or are dying. Saba, Roa, Dooby, Ruka, all basically disappear for months or don't give a damn.
>>115191367Not hard to understand, really. They're rich and no longer have any form of peer or management pressure.
>ex-JPs are dyingtoo bad this don't happen in EN since they are cucked fanbase
>>115191367Why bother? Indie is just a cope, if you really want to stream for a living you'd stay in HololiveI'm surprised how they almost always go Indie instead of just packing up and coasting for a few years
>>115191164Indeed. Could've been mitigated somewhat but she became 100% prudish.
>>115191367How is it confusing? They get a comfortable amount of money and then lose any oversight, most girls that get into this kind of work are mentally ill in some way or another, of course they're gonna fall off.
>>115191164Tbf chloes tits were just too perfect, no matter what losing them was always going to be a hurdle.
>>115191479If they do that they'd lose the vast majority of the fanbase.
>>115191292She was streaming a lot, the problem is that her holo-side of the fanbase barely translated to her current persona because most shikkuins were into her for the sexo content she delivered, not much for her singing side of things. Neither did her popularity translated to her friend/sister/whatever.>>115191367>RoaSo nothing changed?
>>115190939What exactly is so stressful for her?
>>115191367Most of them already have a wealthy lifestyle yet one that's not healthy, because if you think your average person ends up in vtubbing, you might be kinda stupid, a lot don't live a healthy lifestyle and that only gets worse and worse with the pressure of a entertainment job where you are 60% talking to a manager. That's why they quit, yet they still want to work on it, because there's a reason or two why they started in the first place.That passion isn't followed as much because they just replaced the manager position from a oppressive management (like any company) to themselves handling everything. Could they do the bare minimum? Yes, but that also implies no growth, so they overload, blew themselves up and go into hiding for a couple of months, effectively doing what they didn't want to do.
>>115190939Maybe she has seen the error of her judgement and will redbut under Hololive. Anycolo let Lulu do it so surely Cover would let their members get their job back too
>>115190968>>115190982>>115191156>>115191367>>115191718>"Indie Avenger" schizo
>>115191614She's the main producer/manager for her own agency. She hasn't been laid back at managing Weather Planet too. It's pretty ambitious of her, but exhausting herself was bound to happen.
>>115191479Ruka is not an indie. She set up her own agency which is different from how the rest of the graduates continued their streaming career.
>>115191367Henya talked about it at some point, she said being an indie is a drag. Most vtubers probably underestimate this fact.
>>115191790How many times do we have to tell you that Weather Planet is not an agency? It's a unit. It literally says so on their official web site.
>>115191790It's fully under her own control so she's indie no matter what you say.
Unlucky, I like her karaoke streams
>>115191367There're no pressure to work anymore, no big enough funds to do interesting projects anymore, no more other famous colleges you could collab and have fun with anymore. They ended up feeling bored, tired, unmotivated which will make them quit the job to pursue other fields, but they realize they can't because their whole life source has been attached to vtubing. Being in Hololive might be incredibly stressful but it gives you so much opportunities if you work hard (for the JP side at least). And if you ask 10 people would they watch Aqua or Sakuna they would 100% answer Aqua.
70% of japanese vtubers have mental problemshttps://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000238.000097346.html
>>115191367Some people aren't built to be their own bosses. If you just want to stream vidya and ASMR in your pajamas, go indie sure. But if you want the concerts, sponsors, brand collabs, you're gonna have to put in so much of your own work it ends up not being worh it unless you REALLY want it.
>>115190939Did she get mind broken that she could not nepo her friend (sister) to holo and now matsuri / raden could
>>115192403It's not her sister, retard.
>>115190939she still has affiliate status, she can return
>>115192272Damn...my god>Approximately 70% of streamers experience mental health issues related to streaming activities. About 80% continue streaming even when feeling unwell>About 90% of respondents face some form of sleep trouble; the most common was "feeling sleepy during the day," followed by "fatigue not being relieved even after sleeping," "cutting into sleep time to perform activities," and "difficulty falling asleep".>Approximately 80% reported having the experience of continuing activities despite feeling under the weather.>Many streamers feel that taking a break poses a risk to their activities, leading them to stream even when in poor physical condition.>Around 70% reported experiencing psychological distress through their streaming activities.
>>115191367Chloe basically quit for the same reason. Laplus even joked about it when she said that some people are just too weak to stream
Damn it. Why can't they just do porn?
>>115192432You need to be utterly retard to believe she would abandon Hinata. In the first place her pride alone won't let her return.
>>115192469And how does laps streaming hours look like again?
>>115192511retarded*
>>115191367You know how old school music entertainers and actors used to get into drugs and crash out?Well, this is the streamer equivalent.
>>115190939i dont give a fuck
>>115190939huh funny /vt/ anon said holo asobi will make ruka seethe because NEPOHIREis it related tho
>>115191367Quitting Hololive is basically like going into retirement.Sure you can still do some "job" as an indie, but why even bother?
What if she pulls a Lulu?
>>115191164It was bad but not as bad as Shion to Roa or Fauna to Nimi. But yes a downgrade.
>>115191367There are already plenty of holos who don't give a fuck like Lamy for example. It's just the difference of quitting or not and in Lamy's case I guess there's some slight pressure still coming in to do something sometimes which she spams zatsudans and nothing else. A lot of those people who quit already never streamed in the first place while in Holo.
>>11519227290% of japs have mental problem
>>115191367Hololive drained the life out of them (hence why they graduated in the first place). They come back as indie to try and rekindle their vtubing spark, but unfortunately the damage is already done.
>>115193365Wpuld it be even possible?
>>115193724Black company?
>>115193776Pretty sure Yagoo said as long as you're not terminated (obviously not explicitly about that), you can come back. He said it'd be nice if Coco felt like she would want to come back some day. Any Holo could just get a new contract, though probably not as good and lock them in for 2-3 years, and go back to Hololive.
>>115191689>because if you think your average person ends up in vtubbing, you might be kinda stupidI'd say that this is primarily true for Hololive (and other big corpos), as they only really hire people who are already in the entertainment industry, had successful channels, or successful artists. Because they're very safe picks and usually require less training for the idol side of things.
>>115191367>Girls who don't give a damnMade a shitload of money and realized that they don't even like videogames or streaming. >Girls who got sick Firsthand exposure to the Japanese overwork virus
>>115191367>What the hell is up with girls quitting Hololive and not giving a fuck anymore,They made their money and don't need to pretend to like your pathetic ass anymore.
>>115193845I don't mind if they come back
>>115193600It's sad that when they were still below a million sub they worked so hard and passionate then they change immediately after that
>>115193724The mental anguish of having to... talk in an office chair and then sing and dance... Truly kills a woman's joy de vivre.
>>115194055>and don't need to pretend to like your pathetic ass anymore.Do they like anything anymore? Seems like girls go indie and say >Oh yeah I might play that game>Oh yeah let's do a watch along maybe>I have really big creative ideas coming upThen, wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>115190939Ah, the saba strat. I see where this is going
>>115193365??? Lulu wanted to stream but niji forced her not to because of the stalker, so she quit niji so should could still stream. Then she went back to niji when the situation was resolved and they let her stream.Nothing to do with mental health or whatever reason chloe gave to graduate.
>>115194732 (me)>graduatedoh yeah I forgot chloe was the only other one to take the associate contract that ame had. I still think that has to do with residual use of their likeness (in this case, their voice/behavior that is endemic to the character) instead of complete termination of the business association as with a "graduation".
>>115194732Hey man, Chloe might have thought that Yagoo's ghost was telling her to not stream
>>115193600>which she spams zatsudans and nothing elseThat's the asmr girl special. If your complaint is that she doesnt play games, most of them dont really do. They push themselves to stream vidya and maybe do some other occasional things, but thats it. There are some games in between but they generally are the type that's done in a stream or two.
>>115192454Independent people tend to be like that. Its just part of the job since (You) have to deal with all of the responsibilities related to the business instead of just sitting on your desk and mindlessly droning on until the end of your shift.>gotta make something people want>then improve it>marketing>networking>must constantly research the market>must hunt for reviews>must deal with the negative ones>cant become stale>therefore there must be some sort of event every once in a while>must organize shit>unstable income>gotta deal with unreliable people>also unsatisfactory results from said peoplethe list goes on. Shit is stressful. This applies regardless of the field, be it vtubing or even making fucking ice cream.
>>115191367the retirement home isn't just a meme lmaocan't really blame themonly reason Nimi is still about the same is because she has to support her deadbeat husband lmao
>>115191367Not all of them have Delu or Mikeneko menhera energy.
>>115191367Women are lazy when they need money, now imagine how lazy they can get when they don’t need money
>>115193365gonna be a huge humiliation ritual lol
>>115195855I think women should stop being allowed to have money
>>115191367Why quit in the first place? They are either dirt rich or have a bf that will work for them. Roa disappearing for months and not giving a damn fits her Hololive personality so nothing changed.
>>115192454>Many streamers feel that taking a break poses a risk to their activitiesI mean, this one is just a fact since that's how Youtube works.
>>115190939Sex with Hinata
>>115190939>quit hololive>stream once a month or once a year in case of EN quitterswhat are these hoes even doing in their downtime?
She and Ame need to come back, they've both hit rock bottom.
>>115190939ok?
A Japanese FF of mine actually threw a Weather Planet-themed wedding, complete with Ruka and Hinata merchandise and drinks in their colors
>>115192226It doesn't help that modern Hololive seems to discourage collabing outside the company so when they leave they have next to zero connections, thus compounding certain feelings.
>>115191604Kinda odd that she went for something more conservative as she LOVED flaunting her looks, considering her other outfits are quite showy with her NY outfit having "fucked behind the shrine" vibes.Kinda a shame as she is a good singer; maybe If she didn't go so hard in that direction.... guess Suisei was right.>>115192432Why return when there's no Shion anymore? Shion was the only reason she had that status. She doesn't seem to care about her former genmates and they're aware of it.>>115192454>About 90% of respondents face some form of sleep trouble; the most common was "feeling sleepy during the day," followed by "fatigue not being relieved even after sleeping," "cutting into sleep time to perform activities," and "difficulty falling asleep".Sounds like Choco-sensei in the past>>115193600I have to ask what made you expect more than that from Lamy?
>>115190961>>115190968>>115190982>>115191156https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nvsGz70ZT0
>>115191367sitting in a comfy office chair and playing video games 10 hours a week is just too difficult, please understand
>>115191367How many times does it need to be repeated that most people who graduate are effectively retiring from vtubing? This is why muh "indie avengers" is and will always be a shitpost.Also there are plenty of girls still in Hololive who stopped giving a fuck without graduating, just like most of the graduates before they pulled the trigger. These girls are just further along the path.
imagine if all the graduates got together and came back. Coco and Kanata, Aqua and Shion, Ao and Chloe, Gura and Ame, Mumei and Sana. Imagine them all coming back at the same time! Their characters enshrined in Holodori! It ould be glorious! No im not crazy, you're crazy! GLORIOUS!
>>115204356Thats all you do. And you are in pretty bad shape as well mentally and physically
>>115203982did those outfits actually come from her, or were they suggested by her manager, who she listened to? If she acts differently from how she did in Hololive, then it was likely a manager giving her advice on how to be than herself actually being like that.
>>115191367They left precisely because they didn't want to stream as much anymore. The only exception with that was Nimi and that was just because she wanted to LLD
>>115191367why do you think they quit Hololive?
>>115197505
>>115205042who the fuck is that?
>>115203982>SuiseiOga.He's the one that was spot on, as much as I hate to admit.
>>115205135The legendary Amelia Watson (who now streams once a year)
>>115192454The majority of streamers are 2 views, so they worry about viewership and income very often
>>115204574I presume her as Lui didn't continue the general vibe of her first outfit (to the disappointment of many), Koyori went Sevier.If anything she fell into the classic vtubing trap of mistaking her success as nothing to do with looks.>>115205316I mean about how she disliked traditionally sexy looks as she feels it distracts from her music (putting aside the fact that she in her own way gets people down horrendous). But yeah he was also right.
>>115203982Feel kinda bad for roa, I heard she doesn't go to college. She will has to stick with streaming or manual labor without a degree
>>115203659>It doesn't help that modern Hololive seems to discourage collabing outside the companyTo be fair, it isn't just holo putting up a bit of a barrierI'll just vaguely quote someone who barely got to 3 views>you never know what the true intentions of the other vtubers are>I've been approached by girls who were very kind and caring, only to get dumped after they got whatever clout and contacts they could get off me>I'd chalk this up to an isolated event but it happened a couple of times and I dunno who to trust anymore>we've been on friendly terms for months, talking regularly and even then they it just kept happening >in retrospective, they did approach me after some viral moment so I guess they wanted a bit of traction from that The rant was a bit longer but you get the gist of it. Imagine what the situation might look like at holo's scale. Remember, they are women and are surrounded by women as well.
>>115204545>Thats all you doI play more than 10 hours a week and am in pretty good shape actually.>you are in pretty bad shape as well mentally and physicallyWhy because I commented on how easy your oshi's "job" is?
>>115191367If they had the drive to continue, they would have never quit. Being in Hololive is objectively superior to being an indie, no matter what indie avengers fags want to tell you. Only a retard would retire from Holo - or someone who is already set up for life and doesn't want to work a day more.
>>115192543Better than indefinite hiatus bimbo for sure.
>>115205530Yeah that bit was a factor in Haachama's crash out. (Manly how it sticks in my mind);But either she does well enough not to worry or it becomes a side thing much like Shion became.>>115205599Is that vtuber east or west? Mind you the Japanese side doesn't have its own pitfalls (anti blow ups over subpar performance in SF6, what happened to Mel, Matsuri's GTA incident), but it seems more a thing in the west. That said I remember Haachama having a non-vtuber friend be just like that.It also suits the company well as the less outside connections they have, the less likely they are to quit, at least that's how the logic held.... though there's holes in that
>>115190939She's back bros.
>>115206175>Is that vtuber east or west?Western. I do watch nip girls as well. They're far, far more vague and dont like to bring the mood down, so this kind of topic is pretty rare but some have mentioned similar things. The descriptions are far more restrained though and often are sugarcoated.A couple have described the whole thing as "transactional" and impossible to expect any sort of real friendship, if that serves as reference.I watch introverts though, so who knows if its like that everywhere or these girls just suck at making friends.
>>115191604I suspect part of it was also the sense that she choose her friend/etc over the Gen (which isn't helped by Iroha saying basically "Don't hold your breath on Chloe") and maybe a sense of her being lazy as the company wanted to make her a music star but didn't care to do what it took.
>>115207230Hard to say as introversion seems common among vtubers. Subarus and CeCes are rare while it's easy to find an Aqua. And then there's the overpoliteness the Japanese tend to have. Some collabs haven't happened in Holo because at least one of the parties have a hard time making any sort of waves, be it Koyori unwittingly discourage attempts with her packed schedules or Aki and Korone's chronic social stalemate (despite mutual interest, requiring a third party)But I do wonder if being more proactive comes off as "transactional". I can imagine some seeing Suisei as such as its her business woman side that gets attention than the caring side.
>>115207287>and maybe a sense of her being lazy as the company wanted to make her a music star but didn't care to do what it took.I mean... I can't blame her for that.Blue Journey, UmiSea? Both of those projects fucking fumbled.
>>115207667UmiSea was forced as he'll and Blue Journey was poorly marketed for most (and for others didn't give a shit since it didn't have Suisei/etc). But for anyone who considers themselves a true music enjoyer would like it.
>>115190939Gura taught her well
>>115190939Wtf, she owes me streams!!!
>>115190939EN5!
how come nobody ever talks about ao?she seems to be doing fine and streams at least weekly.is it because she's doing fine that people don't want to bring her up?
>>115213256No, because she is unremarkable - in both good and bad sense. They left Hololive, their numbers dropped, they kept going on in more or less my-own-pace mode. There isn't anything to talk about unless they get something really great or really bad
>>115213256There's no woman here
>>115192335And there's instances of some post-corpo indies handling it decently well. Just that most of them are lazy and saw the retirement from the corpo as 'freedom'. People just like to point at the ones who are lazy as the main ones because then they can say 'YOU BETTER NOT LEAVE OR I'LL HATE YOU'.
>>115213256She's gonna switch personas again in about a year and a half from now. What's the point?
>>115190939Just another case of a woman being too prideful to admit that she needs the guidance of a man(ager).
>>115193845When did he say that? Was it before Cover went public?
>>115219997NTA, but he said it several times in a few different occasion, with the last one (that I can recall) during early Jan '25, long after Cover went public.Not that going public matters anyway since meme asides, the power players over Cover remained largely the same before and after their IPO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkfjtpFS3EM
>>115220283Yeah as Yagoo and the 2nd highest guy has the biggest chunks of stock, everyone else owns pebbles.The real issue is all the questionably hired middle management
>>115224421Meanwhile, the one secret half Chinese middle manager>Oooh I hate that Coco! I wirr never ret her back into the company!! Now to sabotage the EN Twitter account again.
>>115224513Doesn't have to be Chinese as the fact her role in the incident cost Cover a sizable amount in various deals/etc. Chinese gachas only started to deal with Holopro semi-recently. Add in her refusal to sing and seeing her stunts as liabilities...
>>115226919retard
>>115190939
>>115222288based nin nin
>>115191367the afflication is growing up, having a life and finding a husband. Truly horrible.
>>115190939BLACK COMPANY
>>115226976FAFO Potential
>>115226976why doesn't she like tummy?
>>115190939Unironically hope she's ok
>>115231878whats fafo
>>115231879feces rest in the tummy
>>115213256Her numbers are shit so holoantis can't use her to shit on hololive To be fair all exholos crashed and burned. Even sakuna who's doing the best now gets low tier holojp ccv.
>>115234702I don't think she cares.And which talents are low in CCV to you?
