Yagoo's ability to fish out absolute hidden gems from the indie grifter swamp needs to be studied.
>Nene>Mio>Hidden gems
>>115193542Who? x 6
>>115193542The indie scene is comprised mostly of these gems. It just so happens that you only know the very few whores hidden among them.
Aside from Nene I have no idea who any of these are. And she's Phasing in.
>>115193542What's happening? Why are some people suddenly hallucinating a new Hololive gen featuring their favorite indies?
>>115194224Just /vt/ being schizo as usual, nothing new.
>>115194045that's the point
Indies are suddenly good when they're invited to hololive, I suppose.
meanwhile...
>>115193542There's some connection between CC and Mint?
>>115194675probably the one who made it in and the other who got rejected
>>115194729Well the other two pairs are former genmates where one made it in Holo and the other crashed out and are increasinly fading into obscurity.
>>115194762>one made it**supposedly made it in in Nene's case before someone has a tantrum.
>>115194442yesligseethe about it
>>115194045It's not that it's impossible for Nene to Phase in because she has friends everywhere, but I don't know if that's her destination. She seems closer to some of the V4Mirai/Chromashift affiliated girls outside of the people that were in her gen at Production Kawaii, and if she isn't heading there either to help her friends or because the company gave her a huge bag of cash to scout her, it only seems inevitable that she would appear in a Hololive gen because she has enough idoru material on her resume and because she has a good reputation both among vtubers and fans.
>>115194442You act like being a Holo reject isn't a good thing? Lots of indies even brag about making it to the finals of the audition.
"Graduation" instead of "indefinite hiatus" means she can't fathom the possibility of going back. So it's Hololive. If she were Phasing In, fishman would definitely have her invade with her current channel and it would be stupid for Nene to start all over there.
>>115194442
>>115194442Its the opposite of sour grapes
>>115196244mm yummy these grapes have the correct logo on the packaging now
Hololive would provide Mio with the perfect amount of distance from her fans.
>>115193542>indieretard
>>115194224Doing Idol stuff has always been Nene's dream and she's too big for any other EN corpo so it's obviously Holo. Liggerschizos are melting down over the fact that girls actually want to sing and dance, not sit in front of their computer streaming every day.
>>115193542i only know bellrose and immerblue. who are the others?
>>115198413You know bellrose but not her genmate?
>>115194762>>115194812Still funny how the resident retards genuinely thought Hana/Beryl/Clara was the cop. Anyway, how likely is the Nene thing?
>>115197415But at the expense of much, MUCH less frequent physical interaction with the other girls in the agency. That's why she joined a KR agency instead of an EN agency, or the EN branch of a JP agency oh by the way she JUST joined an agency, so unless she auditioned for Holo before signing her current contract she can't get into Holo even if Bae personally asked Yagoo to hire her>she could move to JapanHer parents would disown her if she moves across the street, much less to another country. The only way she can move out without her (Korean Confucian) parents unpersoning her out of the family is if she marries a Korean salaryman who they approve of and who makes more money than she currently does, AND if she quits working entirely to focus 100% of her time on being that salaryman's trad-housewife.
>>115198673Nene is the most obvious holo I have ever seen.She has been working hard for 5 years every day.
>>115198714This board has a huge list of "obvious holos that never got in" (ironically some would argue that Clara is part of said list) so I'm asking if the graduation announcement implied anything.
>>115198692>she JUST joined an agencyEh, I've seen enough chuubas weasel their way out once HoloEN or NijiEN came knocking.
>>115198798https://x.com/NeneAmanoVTuber/status/2104753044097569125/photo/1>Please be happy, because I know that we'll meet again in an even more brighter and beautiful future!! This is definitely not goodbye!!Nene has more subs currently than every EN corpo other than Holo. So yes, "brighter and more beautiful" can only imply Holo
>>115193542the holofag cycle all indies are bad shilling your indie here? fuck off only hololive vtubers are good oh your indie joined hololive? she was always good its just blatant retardation by SEA, there is nothing special about any vtuber in hololive, they're as good or worse than what indies offer
>>115198798She said stuff like "brighter future" and "even more friends/viewers". I get that big chuubas from small corpos are who's here, but she's too big for a corpo other than Hololive to say that kind of stuff. NijiEN, she'd be retarded.
>>115198905>Nene has more subs currently her viewership for non ASMR are in the guttershe is like Mio who has a bunch of dead subs for a certain thing
>>115193542I thought Mio was staying indie
>>115198975she averages 300 ccv shes not bigger than any corpo
>>115198905>>115198975Interesting. It definitely feels like hololive since afaik she's very much not niji material (which is generally a good thing). Using Kakapo's graduation for a rough timeframe she graduated in June and debuted 3 months later so if Nene is indeed going to hololive (formerly known as hololive English) then we might be looking at a potential January debut. I might be misremembering stuff but on a precious investor's call Cover did mention something about multiple new debuts during the current fiscal year (April 1st 2026 to March 31st 2027) so if they're including a new English-speaking gen it does fit the schedule.
>>115198891Sure you have.Holo EN and Niji EN have had a combined 65 debuts: Gigi Murin, and 64 others. Of those 64 others, who among them was in some other vtuber agency for less than 6 months, and then left that agency specifically to join either Holo EN or Niji EN?
>>115199124Rosemi
>>115199012She has 450k subs and averages 6 figure vod views on her ASMR, she is absolutely bigger than every EN Corpo outside of Holo
>>115193542meanwhile Nina will never join lmao
People are paying too much attention to her dead subs as an indicator honestly. Punkalopi had 500k subs and joined idol corp.The thing that has got people saying "wow" is because she is of that 2020/2021 small corpo OG class with Phase Origins, Tsunderia, etc and she has never been anybody else but Nene. So if she is willing to give up Nene but we will see her again soon, then it must be something significant. It has to be hololive because nothing else really fits her vibe and vice versa. She could go to Phase and do well there and they would definitely help at least triple her non ASMR merchant CCV, but they would want her as Nene so they can just add her subs to the company total to boost it. Phase makes no sense given that she is killing the channel.
>>115199012Do you believe that's the most important number to Hololive hiring managers?
>>115199155>She has 450k subs400k of those are dead subs>averages 6 figure vod views on her ASMRshe is an ASMR merchant and she only does it because it does numbers. Her 3D concerts have not done well lately especially compared to her huge sub count because viewers of her channel dont care about her goals. They care about masturbating to her ASMR.She would trade in all 450k subs and all of her ASMR shit and her EONIA genmates if it meant people cared about her 3D idol stuff. And that is exactly what she is doing.
>>115199124Marica Bellerose graduated 3 months after debuting on MyHolo and Seru Kisen after 4 months on Virtuality Project and less than a month before Clock's debut, tho everyone else for holo was either indie, not a vtuber or left their previous agency months before their holo debuting (iirc the twins are the only case for the last one).
>>115199234>Nene is bigger than anybody not named hololivemeanwhile her last sololive in January averaged 600 ccv, and her idol groups 5th anniversary concert averaged 400
>>115199305Her idol shit is obviously not as popular but show me a non-Holo who can pull these numbers, I’ll wait. Not sure why you’re bringing up her worst performing content as her main metric
>>115199451>why are you brining up the content she loves and mentioning her normal streams!>just pay attention to buff streams!nene does not give a fuck about asmr and it was likely absolutely soul crushing putting months of work into concerts for nobody to care because all about wants to do is masturbate to her asmr. her idol live viewership gets destroyed by phase and even v4m. gooners dont watch idols stuff and normal streams, and that is what nene wants. she has always wanted to be a holo idol normie and that is where she is headed. she will never have to whisper into a microphone and pander to indian gooners again.
>>115198960No, Nene Amano as an ASMR VTuber is whatever. Nene Amano as a indie singer/dancer is gimped by a lack of resources and viewer interest. Nene Amano as a singer/dancer in Holo is absolutely perfect.
>>115199516All I said, and you replied too, is that she’s bigger than any non-Holo corpo, which is true. Whether or not she likes that content is irrelevant to this fact.
>>115197415Ironically it seems that despite it all she *doesn't* want to distance herself from her fans at least not completely. And to think I was convinced she hated us but it seems to be more nuanced than that.
>>115199234>400k of those are dead subsHololive is full of million+ sub channels that are 4view.
>>115199545she is a bigger ASMR streamer than any non-Holo corpo that I can agree with.Without the letters A, S, M, R in the title? Nene is a 300 ccv regular small corpo.again there are individual corpo girls who have 1/4 the subs of her and their 3d concerts did x4 the live views. that is simply devastating for someone like Nene who cares so much about idol stuff. that is why she is giving up her channel is because she wants idol support like that (and even greater than that like she would find in holo)you spend thousands and months working on WINGS sololive actual hard work blood sweat and tears for it to get mogged by your own ASMR of you whispering for a couple minutes that requires no effort becuse gooners need to goon and all Nene was good for was masturbating to. She is more than that pair of tits and an ASMR mic, but nobody saw her as that. and that is why she is killing Nene and starting over.
>>115193542>MioI implore you to refrain motherfucker
>>115196925Correct , you finally understand
its not phase because there are phase og's who came up with nene in the 2021 era who are shocked and wishing her well
>>115199234Delicious grudgeposting
>>115199736And she might do it, but not in Hololive
the only thing that gives me pause about it not being holol is that she is very heavy handed on the "look for me in my next role" stuffto me when a vtuber says that, it feels more like it is something new and that new group wants people to think it is going to be the next big thing and they want people to be looking out for you/themother than that? nene amano is about as hololive as it gets and a no brainer why was she not there already is the only question.
>>115200222>nene amano is about as hololive as it gets and a no brainer why was she not there already is the only question.Anon, Right now, what you said right there is the most solid counter-argument for Nene not being in HoloEN. If they didnt hire her before why would they change now? If they didnt care before why now? Why would she on their radar now?
>>115200434She wouldn't be the first Nene to get in after multiple rejections.
>>115193542holotoddlers are desperate for new shiny things since all of the old hidden gems have been destroyed by the meatgrinder already
These kind of threads are always funny because Holo-onlies act like they know about shit going on outside of the cave.
>>115199234People look at noombers but you just spelled out exactly why hololive isn't 100% a guaranteed pick. Anyone that can offer her an out from the ASMR grind is exactly the type of opportunity she would hop on.
>>115199234Holy fuck phase is doing pretty well
>>115201698doing shit you mean
