>flips>misses the litterbox
Can I interest you in my oshi, Pipkin Pippa, while you wait for filian to return?
>>115243050previous thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BPLXepRC8E
/pcg/ said the filly debut date dropped but i dont see it where is it
>>115405826That was me, I lied
>>115406567Yuo sunuvabitch.
guys I'm beginning to suspect she's not coming back
So why is she not back? She got trademarked, right? And she had like a year to prepare, surely she was ready way before the trademark stuff ended.
>>115405314man imagine filian squatting down and shitting live on stream. I can't believe what we've mcfucking lost
>>115405389I would like to suck on your oshi, Pipkin Pippa's, milky breasts
>>115405314When do you guys just start calling this the Manta thread?
When did you realize she was so uncaring?
>flips>becomes a sea creature
Lots of big things coming!
>>115409913just two more weeks
>>115409913Yeah me
I miss my wife /flip/I miss her a lot
Did you know she was capable of great evil?
>>115411558She isn't, she split from her evil half (gilian)
>>115404152Got any examples of your 3D work that you can show us?
filian
>>115414147is the cutest
>>115407793Around 2024 I would say, when I learned new stuff about past streams and how she basically cut contact with everyone who helped her or was friend with herIt was only a matter of time before she leaves (you) too
>>115414434She's loyal, the type of woman to wait 20 years for her missing husband to return. Just like penelope in the odyssey.
Rare moo time
I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really wanna touch Filian's butt
>>115412880This is what I'll do. I've been meaning to make this character I made a sketch of for a while now. I'll start monday, then I'll post it the next monday in the /flip/ thread hanging out with filian so its on topic. October 19, mark your calendar.
>>115412880>>115418391>Shit dude, you guys are starting to make me think maybe I actually am world class. I'll have to test some things now.if you were good you would know itbeen working professionally as a 3d character lead(yes, as in full time 8 hours a day) for 7 years now, and i know im nowhere near best guysgood 2d is 10x easier, if i can get away with it i fake everything in substance painter, modeling and baking down high poly for ao and curv maps gives me a stroke, i end up fighting my maps with my new vision for a texture as i want to make something more stylized, dont fucking get me started on stylized shaders, sometimes half of the process i spend setting up nodes then asking a shader guy to write it in an optimized way so it dosnt run 1 frame per minuteanyway, you suck ass if you cant tell how good you are vs the industry standard for both movie/game 3d character modeling as well as good 3d vtuber avatarsif you can hit models like those in wuwa or ZZZ you know it, there is no ifs
>>115418539Who cares. No matter how good you are, some idiot can point to someone better.Still movin'. You can't doom me, fucko.
>>115417486I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really want filian to stream again
>>115418581its you who claimed you can make this in a week and than 2d is somehow much harder, its not2d is complicated since its bunch of faked fuckery, with endless mesh deformations to fake perspectivebut if you ever seen a complex animation rig for a 3d character you would notice a lot of shit is similar, with blend shapes, layers, bone weighting and constrains and linking shit together, if you think 2d has a lot of corrective deformation, you never seen a 3d model with 200 corrective blend shapes a team of 10 people worked on for 2 yearsin both 2d or 3d its just a matter on how much you can spend and how much time you are willing to put into itbut the fact i have to spell it our already tells me you lack the skill set to be as you said "world class", unless you spend 2 weeks straight making blend shapes for an animation set you have 0 idea how much work it takes
What if filian comes back and it's immediately obvious that she has severe and untreated PTSD? Also, she pretends that she never stopped streaming.
WHERE is FILIAN?
>>115419320Smackers got her.
>>115419084So If I say the words "world class", its like I put a spell on you. Do you think it works on people in general, or just because of your values structure? What about your values structure makes that such a tight spot?
>>115419360Jesus.
>>115405314>misses the litterboxyeah my cat is getting old so sometimes she just shits on the floor next to itit sucks but there's not much you can do
>>115419366i dont care if you call yourself biggest dick sucker in town, if you gonna ego trip with unrelated shit in dead streamer thread then expect to be called out
>>115419612So you're triggered by ego. Especially concerning your industry that you care about status in very much apparently. If you want to continue the debate/discussion we can do it somewhere else. This sounds like a great sit down and coffee talk but if you want to stay anonymous, we can move it to /3/.
>>115419674why wouldnt i care about something i do daily? are you autistic?and yeah, this discussion is over
>>115419822lol
https://youtube.com/shorts/XrrE9i3e8NM?is=eskPTnXFnpsCeUsK
>day 305 of the fillyOffline special operation
>>115405389Pippa is also Filian's oshi in case you didn't know. She said so herself, and that Filian didn't start out as a vtuber but her biggest vtuber inspiration was Pippa.
>>115422141Just 60 days left until one year.
>>115422477i don't think i'll have it in me to continue after reaching the big 365
https://youtube.com/shorts/Xy2Sx97D0pUI rember filian saying this a lot
>>115422477>Just 60 days left until one year.She's gone for good.
If I ever do completely lose hope that Filian is coming back, then I hope I don't turn into one of those disgrunted /flip/ doomposters that seem to plague every thread.
>>115423406>every threadAre you a /swarm/fag? Because I don't go there yet I'm in every other Filly adjacent thread and haven't seen what you're talking about?
>>115423406haha doom doom doom. Whats your favorite thing about Filina? Whats your favorite Fili era?
>>115407793lol remeber when she was asked what does with the stuff sent her for the unboxing and she said most of it was "trash" so she threw it out then when they asked why she didn't just or give it away she said "why?" This before hwr last unboxing and people still continued to send her stuff after she said this. Imagine wasting your money on her only to have her throw it away lol kek.
>>115426018I like to imagine she kept the thing I sent her
A very credible anon told me that filian spits on homeless people when they ask for money
>>115426122Rudy the cow?
>>115419405It probably looked interesting irl seeing as how Mini is supposedly around 173cm and Filian is around 146cm
>>115426018Do you have a clip of this? Because (while I doubt this is true) I remember her saying she saves everything because she can't throws stuff away.
>>115429120It does seem like she can't find her garbage can.
>>115419360It's me, I'm smacker
>>115428112No
>only 139 people chose Filian in today's krillion
>>115432125A unicorn dildo?
>>115432125The pickles. The pickles. The pickles.
mandatory "-Filian- Becomes a Mom". Because https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bx8QdYj0Pg>Now You're in real life>Now You're in real life>Now You're in Reeaaalllll Life >Now You're in Reeeaaallll Life
>>115423211One year less 46 days is two weeks from now, I think that's when we expect to hear an update
>>115432846She likes pickles, unless the pickle stream scarred her
>>115433862
>>115434366>her when she sees my pickle
>>115436247sniff
>>115436247Today's the day, snackers. I can feel it.
>>115438492
>>115438492Is 'it' in the room with us right now?
looking forward to another fun YLYL tomorrow, I bet she has a really zany punishment in store
>>115441907>I bet she has a really zany punishment in storeYou laugh you go on hiatus for another year.
There is absolutely no reasonable explanation for any of this.
>>115442690Funzies.
>>115442690"She wanted to" is perfectly reasonable to me
>>115443464More like she hates us
>>115443544Less reasonable, she doesn't know any of us, why would she hate any of us
They found all the Chaos Emeralds before they found Filian.
>>115442690there is a perfectly reasonable explanation, you're just not willing to accept reality
>>115443679Because she knows I'm the God of Goons.
She will return when you finally stop making these threads, only when you forget her
just saw this on swiiika's website>2021-2025she's gone....
>>115445006Flip in Peace
>>115445006Kwab.
>>115445006>taking credit for a dead womans work
>>115419499yeah mine too but she has a condition where i have to give her laxative to soften her stool. then she also wipes her ass on the floor afterwards sometimes
>>115445006>2021-2025F
>>115445006any idea how long it's been like that? seems nobody else has been talking about it anywhere yet. that's basically the same way that everybody recently found out marc hudson was leaving dragonforce, seeing the years suddenly get specified on his social media
uuuu i miss her...I just need a sign...
>>115449019dunno just checked out his twitter out of curiosity and saw his website
>>115449221>braaaaaaaaap
>>115449418Weak sound, slight smell of sulphur, foul but... not rancid.I give it a 6/10.Also your period is in 2 days
>>115449279well shit. somebody's probably gonna have to do it then... somebody's gonna have to break containment
>>115445006how are we gonna rationalize this one, guys? i'm sure someone can come up with an interpretation other than "she quit"
>>115450946we've never payed attention to his website before so don't really have any previous versions to compare. but for what it's worth, his discord profile still says that he's the editor/social head of her channel and still admin of her clipping server and apparently did some clipper class for them back in september
>>115445006
>>115449769Anon pregnant women don't have periods
>>115452114They did during covid.
>>1154450062021-2025
do you think swika knows where filian is?
>>115452497playing league on her third "secret" account
>>115452945are you swika?
>>115452945
>>115452225too soon
>>115445006Faggot lol
>>115418676Time for you togo take your meds,you CHUD!
>>115445006She's not gone until his social bios say something about a new job: "Production Editor for RandomChuuba67" or something like that.
>>115452497yeah
after checking her clipper discord im more convinced that she's coming back. curious what swiiika said about the situation in the september class/meeting he did though
milian
>>115454890do they still get paid or is it onhold?
>>115445006THAT MEANS SHE JOINED A CORPO HOLO EN 5PHASING IN NIJILIVERITS HAPPENING
>>115454890two more weeks
>>115459013Im not gonna make it...
>day 306 of the fillyOffline special operation
>>115460350
>>1154616365Stop missing filian
>>115463734Prone bone, raw and deep
which archive has the most of her earlier vods? most of them seem to pick up around late 2023 at earliest
>>115467137if she didn't have a big audience yet, there weren't enough people around statistically for one to be making recordings.
>>115467137Because Filian is an industry plant
>>115467835more like a houseplant
>>115467137Vods from January 8th 2022 start herehttps://www.youtube.com/@filianvods/videosNormally this should be linked at the beginning of the thread, no idea why it isn't in this one.
>>115467867oh okay thanks. tbdesu i probably wouldn't have seen it even if it was though. those post usually either trip my filters or i just minimize them out of habit
>>115467853My wife is a vegetable tyvm
The bread...
>>115471083Country boys make do
This year i'm thankful for all the good times I had with filian
>>115438725The way she moves here is super cute
>>115438725>>115473963honestly kinda looks like she's situating herself on a dick
>>115467835who planted her?
Pregnant
>>115467867she's so bubbly in her old vods
>>115450946she will change name so she will not be called "filian" afterwards
>>115454325also here faggot
>>115476288Manta sounds like a good name
>>115445006>"come find me">quitswhat did she mean by this
>>115432125Does she even eat fruitsnacks?
>>115478237It's obvious that Manta is Filian. They have the same voice and do the same hand gestures when moving around and reacting.
>>115480003>t. Helen keller
Have you guys moved past the "denial" phase yet? Have you accepted that she is gone for good?
>>115480846I haven't even acknowledged she's gone. I'm still in the "Oh it's Sunday, that means Filian stream tomorrow."
>>115480846she's not gone, she's been streaming her usual schedule for the past 10 months
dead chuuba storage
>>115480846I've pretty much given up at this point, I keep this thread open out of habit but I generally just scroll quickly through to see if there's any news. If she does come back then I'll check out her first stream but I've got the feeling I won't be as interested since I've filled that gap with other stuff. I half expect her to come back and just treat the missing year as a big joke but if she did that then I'd feel like she doesn't really care about her viewers. If she came back and was like>yeah sorry X happenedThen I'd probably accept that but if she comes back and is just>what are you guys talking about, it wasn't that longOr some dumb shit then I'll be annoyed since yeah, I missed her and making light of those feelings is going to hurt.
>>115480846gone?
>>115484415https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6-R9odBFWo
Rubio announced yesterday that Filian's return stream gonna be Zelenskiy public execution watchparty.
Layna went completely crazy without Filian munching on her carpet
>>115482665It's filian, she isn't going to apologize lmao
>>115482665it's been a year and you're still here. don't kid yourself, you would watch like nothing happened if she magically came back.
>day 308 of the fillyOffline special operation
>>115405314>Disappears from streaming>Give literally zero explanation on why or for how long>Gives zero updates or contact for an entire year>Puts out a countdown timer to a stupid graffiti wall that’s worthless>Still no informationWhat did she mean by this?If she comes back are you actually going to crawl back like nothing happened?
>>115488277yes
>>115488277you're talking about one of the funnniest characters ever created on the internet.
>>115488617You’re right I liked her streams.But ghosting your fans for a full year with no updates because “Le ARG mystery!” is bullshit behavior. At this point say something already holy fuck.
I just watched another streamer do meme react for the first time... All I will say is that perhaps we judged the mods' meme/video choices too harshly.
>>115488773>we
>>115488657listen, it's a very parasocial genre. you could say it's the main and almost only selling point. that being said, none of these performers actually owe anyone anything.
>>115490078And the reverse is true too.When she comes back after a year and explains away what happened with a shitty joke, nobody owes her continued massive views and support. She can flip burgers instead.
>>115490147yea but that has nothing to do with what you think. the crowd decides.welcome to media ecology.
>>115490078holy shit you people really gotta stop shoehorning that "owing" analogy. unless somebody explicitlyuses it 1st, it really doesnt fit the situation
>>115490273no one ever shit on robin williams cause he vanished into a coke hole for six months, ya know?you're just victims of the medium.now if you could zoom out and see the machine for what it is, you might just be able to enjoy it like a normal mentally healthy individual.
>>115490273what analogy are you talking about? he just said "none of these performers actually owe anyone anything". that's just a statement.
>>115490348>>115490603NTA but calling them “just performers” and comparing it to TV shows and actors is disingenuous. Vtubing and streaming in general is inherently parasocial and involves a direct two way interaction and a daily habit. Having the streamer you watch every day suddenly fuck off with no explanation is a little different than Brad Pitt going an extra year without releasing a movie.
>>115480003Manta also did a really cute blebleble the other day but I was on mobile so I couldn't clip it
>>115490603in case you somehow hadnt noticed, the "she doesnt owe you anything" is a line which has been used countless times over the past couple years in the vtuber community and has become a go-to method of dismissing people's feelings. shifting everything to a transactional frame and reminding them that it's all "fake" is an interesting tactic, but sometimes you just gotta let people venti understand her doing what i think she's doing, and think the pre-recorded video was good enough, but i also understand people being annoyed or upset with how things have been done
>>115445006Welp.
>>115429069i thought mini was mini lol
>>115491383She doesn't owe him anything, or you anything.But she owes me something
>>115491464Guess she mogs like half the vtubing fanbase kek
filian is a heartbreaker
>>115491383you didn't answer his question tho
>>115491910Don't joke while i'm bleeding out on the ground
>>115491910Foxy
>>115490147She already farmed enough money to stop working for her entire life if she invested a bit lmao
>>115491383I agree but you'd kinda hope people would stop venting after like 6 months of doing it
>>115492469ive always liked watching the occasional freakout desu
>>115480003she's pitched up a bit
>>115491910A love taker
is it true that she quit streaming forever?
>>115494464I dunno.
Any lifesigns of Filian yet, or is she still "died from cancer in the middle of the ARG that was meant to save time while she's on treatment"?
>>115495232https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_nmdbJI8rM
Filian owes us a sign
>>115492444>stop working for her entire life if she invested a bit lmaoMost nations projected to face severe debt crisis before the end of current decade. (((They))) will rather let stocks and cryto eat shit, than abandon bond market. Back to the mines you go.
cant believe none of you managed to infiltrate that meeting in september. i didnt even know about it so at least i have an excuse. you mean to tell me that there are 0 clippers in this general?
>>115495662You think I WORK?
>>115495577Nah she'll be fine
>>115495662the last one? 09/22 meeting? It was just the usual bullshit
What if she's homeless and destitute, too proud to accept help from the people who love her? what if the vtas are her debut?
>>115495953tell us about the clippers. also questions were asked im sure
>>115496706Most recent update is they're stopping payments and clipping for a bit to update the entire system. Officially.In practice it kinda smells like "yeah we'll stop because we're a bit tired of burning money, especially as end of year approaches so we already filled our accounting stuff and there's no point until she comes back"meeting was swiika saying "uuuh no guys we don't stop and we're just not trying to keep you on the hook for later uuuh I promise it's just an update uuuuh big things coming guys"then analyzing clips or whatever bullshit
>>115495855There was no malice in my post. I let go long ago.
>>115496662my oshi kinda homeless bro
>>115497080yeah i figured, but since he'd announced that earlier and said he was going to answer questions, i also thought there'd be a bit more revealed or at least implied with his answers. then again I have no idea what those clippers are like or how much they really care at this point. thanks for the update if not bullshit nonetheless though
Ten straight months of anal slavery... Her ass might never be closed again...
>>115493730Don't you mess around with me
>>115492306Is she...?
>>115498041I didn't remember the whole thing but I don't remember any interesting questionssomeone archives the meetings so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_QD915O_I here you go if you want to check yourself. As I skipped here and here it's entirely possible I missed somethingBut they never talk about filian's plans or when she comes back or anything like that
>>115405314Incredibly long, old, thread Every day snackers lose their hope more and more......
>>115498661Oh thanks. Yeah there's some new/interesting stuff in there to me at least. Some of the comments made by clippers about filian saying itd just be a few weeks last time they heard from her among other things. I gotta say though, the dude was reminiscent of a politician or lawyer by how careful he was being with his word choice. Such as "I'm not sure when the return date would be" - using "would" instead of "will" adds distance and avoids confirming that there will even be a returnHe did put down the trademark/legal issues having anything to do with why she stopped though. Basically scoffed at it and said that he doesnt think that has anything to do with why she stoppedIt is a combination of kicking the can down the road and beating around the bush though for the most part. I came away with the impression that he's generally nervous about the situation and still doesn't know if/when she's actually coming back, which is different than how I thought it was prior to hearing this
so that's what she's working on
>>115498661filian was right: swiika is zestyalso it seems pretty clear to me that the wall and stuff is all swiika and not filian
>>115498661after watching the VOD I lost my believer status. I went from 99% she will come back to 5%. Either she just ran and started a new life or she has a serious illness and wanted to go out at her peak. Swiika has no idea where she is and what's happening. My guess is that he's trying to get some other big chuuba that can use this clipper network and program
>>115499854>>115500110>>115500415So Manta got it right? Filian left/ran away because she felt unappreciated? The few persons relatively close to her didn't treat her too well?
>>115498661>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_QD915O_I>filian told them she will be gone "3 to 5 weeks", its been 9 months>told them she will keep updating them, shes been mia ever since, 0 communication>swiiika: i dont think it will 3 more months... i hope ( has no idea)>has to pause clipping since even swiiika is loosing hope>99% of the stream is trying to avoid the subject and talking about random shit until someone forces the topic>swiiika: "i dont know anything">dosnt know if there will be any updates and if there is any point in making any more meetings or if its ogreNo idea how anybody can watch that and think filian is coming backEven her team gave up, they have no info we dont have, and swiiika is living off pure copium and hopes she will come back one day so hes just working on backend in case it happens one day Hes straight up says hes not even sure if she wanted to redebut or just come back like nothing, and he dosnt know what to prepare or what to do
If they've been paying clippers until now... who has? There's no way Swiika is doing it out of his own pocket, does he have access to Filians funds? She hasn't pulled them?
>>115501213shes a young woman and went menhera, if you treat her like that everything makes sensenow the longer shes gone the more pressure she feels to say something, so shes just ignoring the problemand like all women she will keep ignoring it until it gets too big and someone contacts her irl
>>115501861you forgot the timestamps
>>115501885i bet they talk about it in one of their meetings, but doubt anybody here has access or even cares to look trough itif i had to guess, mix of out of his own pocket and with funds filian gave to pay clippersin this vid >>115498661 he says hes doing everything on his own initiative since filian is missing in action, but does that mean hes paying for it? who knows>>115501927if anybody cares they will watch it, i didnt really feel the need to timestramp itbut if you are to watch only one part watch from 15:00 onwards, its when they straight up say she told them she will be gone for 3 weeks, and at 16:30 they say that they had 0 communication with her since not even a single message
>>115501861You know, I used to think that her known friends were just joking about not being able to contact her and that they knew what was going on behind the scenes. But now I have to admit I was wrong and that they were telling the truth, Filian really did just go MIA and just cut all communication with the online world. Perhaps there is maybe one or two of those friends who she knows closely IRL that are keeping her status under the wraps, but the chances of her returning to content creation are really not looking good at all. And now I'm fully convinced that the ARG stuff was a stalling tactic to keep her return hype up while awaiting for some kind of activity.
but then where did the dokomi ad come from
>word words wordsHow about you just come back, huh?
What do you think Filian's name is? I bet she has the most white girl name to have ever white girled
>>115501979he's reading chat, he did not say filian told them(swiiika) that it'd be only 3 to 5 weeks lol. swiiiika was involved in the arg so he def knows what's up but he's just being evasive and retards like you lap it up
>>115502072It's just a recording. There's nothing about the recording that indicated it was a fresh recording. It could've been done way before she went on her planned hiatus. I've said it before that her team is on autopilot, executing a long campaign planned before she left. She's not even there. They can't get in contact with her. They're just following orders.
>>115502127watch more before you posts, like 30 seconds later he goes "oh yeah, she did say that bla bla bla ..." or something like that as he finds it> but he's just being evasive and retards like you lap it upat this point everybody around said the same thing, but more importantly shes been gone almost a year, who else do you need to tell you this before you believe it?she might come back, but sure as fuck nobody but her knows when, at this point its 100% in filian hands, so as always
>>115502168why do you think other people would spoil when she's planning to return, are you actually retarded?
>>115502127NTA, one guy (not Swiika) was clearly directly repeating something Filian said, then Swiika pauses and listens to a sound file someone posted in chat called "Filian-LyingToHerClippers.mp3" and then Swiika goes "Dang, she did say that!" Long pause... Other guy follows up with "Yeah, she actually said it..." and Swiika proceeds to start making jokes about it.Start around 15 minutes and listen from there.
>>115502188"Spoiling" it would create anticipation and hype, after having already shot all her ammo for nothing, like blowing up all her social media and her YouTube channel.
>>115502223and now you're answering your own question why swiiika pretends to know nothing
>>115502250>he's still believing that there's a planThere's not a single vtuber in existence that thinks disappearing this hard for this long is acceptable or reasonable.
Just focusing on a few of the clipping-related interactions, and this is heavily paraphrased since it was a long discussion:>Swiika: We're pausing the clipper program, but you should totally keep churning out Filian clips (just for free now), because the algorithm and stuff...>Clipper: Probably not...>Swiika: Yeah, but like, you should totally keep uploading Filian clips even now the program is closed. You should do clips of her friends talking about her, and if you run out of those you should go back to old vods and clip those.>Clipper: Why are you closing the current program (meaning we won't be getting paid) before the new one is ready?>Swiika: Like, it would just be totally super messy if we were making a new system while the old one is running.>Clipper: If we keep clipping, can we just register them in the new system when it's finished and get paid that way?>Swiika: "I don't know", proceeds to explain why it's a definite no.>Clipper: Can we use anything from anywhere, like ironmouse or other clips?>Swiika: Uhh... It's still gotta be Filian focused (even though they're not being paid anymore)...>Swiika : I hope you guys find motivation to keep clipping Filian even though the program's not there.Text can't really do justice to the huge number of long pauses and the uncertainty in his voice about this whole thing. It seems like he's just trying to keep them on hold indefinitely, which to me suggests that this whole thing really is going off the rails.
>>115502377i don't deny something possibly went wrong or got delayed, but you won't get anything worthwhile from other vtubers or employees
>>115502411while a few fan clippers will stay, we can assume its the end of "official" filian contentespecially since at the end of video he says this is probably the last clipper call ... for now ( lol, sure )
This was a rough night for /flip/ and therefore the world
>>115502421we wont get shit from them since they basically all just got firedlets get real, that was a mass layoff call, and everybody got fired due to lack of revenue stream, no filian channel, no money, no employeesswiiika will stay on for few more weeks until he finds some other gig, but thats it, filian™ business just got closed down
ha ha she's just still riding out the bit right guys?Like she's going to come back one day with a video of Rindo lying dead in an alley with flies and maggots all over and then the camera pans up to reveal her new model right?It's all just a funny prank
>>115502686
>>115502649obviously you can't clip someone that doesn't stream so it makes sense to put the thing on pause, the rest is just you making stuff up since we don't know what's going on
Glad I jumped ship months ago, I guess
>>115502750>months ago>still posts here
>>115502728i dont care whats going on, but lets call things by what they are, her staff got laid offi know vtubbing is full of literal children who think money grows on trees, but for filian and all other big vtubers this is a real job, and should be legally regulated like oneinstead we have retards saying "you got paused", not "you got fired" in the display of most psychotic reddit speak, fucking "unalive" tier Newspeak straight out of an Orwell bookand when a company, even a tiny store, starts laying off entirely of their staff then you have to be legit brain dead to not figure out what that means
>>115502804take your meds and argue from reality, you schizo. or post some actual proof staff got laid off.
>>115502823proof of what you retard? what you think happens to everybody in that clip? they go on 6 months paid vacation?they got fucking fired
>>115503000you know that's just clippers right, not actual staff
>>115499942Fucking chimp ass proportions.
Any more green button pressers? C'mon, guys. Just a little more.
>>115503104The second green makes me sad, because she hasn't been doing something she loves for so long.But i'm still hitting it twice
>>115503058fuck you on about, they were being paid, they were her contracted staff by definition and while you retards think clippers are important, seems they were important enough for her to pay them
>>115503230they're just clippers who got some extra money for hitting some view target, not actual staff lol
>>115502764Ye
>>115503296filian dosnt have payrolled staff you twat, everybody working for her is a contractor
>>115502048>And now I'm fully convinced that the ARG stuff was a stalling tactic to keep her return hype up while awaiting for some kind of activity.very likely the ARG was planned for a few weeks until filian came back. then swiika and the team got nervous as there was no more comms from her. so they added time-gated clues which led to the whole fumble, add to that the other things (t-shirt, wall, etc.) which was just something to try to keep the hype alive
>>115491383okay? interesting non sequitur but it's still not an analogy.
>>115503104rolling
Fillian ows me tight tomboy pussy.
>>115504251How tight?
Once you recognize the secret reason for her disappearance, you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds.
>>115504567My only regret is not being able to be there for her
>>115504317Running for 3 hours tight while nervous about re-debuting tight
>>115504567Is it being sexualized or what?
>>115504567the reason?she had to took a shit
>>115504567filbert in the next metal gear?
Thread TLDR: Connor, Shaun and maybe Bryan think it's a good idea to post retarded "psyops" stuff on here to build a excuse for all their stuff not working. No guys, you just failed. Own up to it and do better or you won't salvage it. And stop the immature and insulting "it's a prank, Bro" communication from during the_wall... i blame swiika for that.The big release alone will not override the current sentiment. thats not what i mean with "soft reapproach".
>>115507241How's about you do it then?
>>115507241which of the stages of grief does "fighting ghosts" land on? bargaining? anger?
retarded schizo talking about its previous posts
Theory time: Filian, for whatever reason, decided she wanted to see what would happen if she gave the reins of her brand completely and entirely over to other people, namely that Bryan guy, and her only means of communicating with them is literally, unironically, this thread, because this way she can give her opinion without it being tied to her name in any way. The experiment here being if they could make her go viral with literally zero input, absolutely nilch, from Filian, the brand in question, herself. And this anon >>115507241 is Filian displeased at their shit, but also partially intellectually curious to see where it goes.
Happy thanksgiving snackers, what are you thankful for?
Watching the clippers meeting recording has certainly been eerie. And the fact that Swiika has a new super fancy "please hire me" website is not encouraging at all. But on the other hand, the money for clippers and the wall must have come from somewhere, and now he's developing a new clippers payment platform, which seems like a complex (and expensive) engineering project as well. So I don't know what to think anymore. Was he bulshitting all the clippers rather than being straight with them? Why insist that they should conntinue clipping if there's nothing in it for them, money-wise? If he truly has no information about her, it seems like a shity thing to do. Or maybe he just doesn't want his clipping project to die? Seems like he's proud of what he's built. Until now I never considered that she actually just disappeared. I thought that she was cooking up something, or something went wrong behind the scenes. But now, I don't know. The whole thing has been so unprofessional that it left a bad taste in my mouth.
>>115507997Not being Canadian
>>115508186I seen similar behavior from general managers before. It goes like this>main revenue / client is going away>if I tell this my team they will all go crazy and leave and my whole company crashes down>I feel I can bring in another client before it crashes down and everything will be fine>"yeah the client's budget currently is a bit low but I know it will get better">"yeah of course we use this time to build up our capacity, the future will be bright!">"yeah the revenue is down a bit but everything is under control">2 weeks later>"we're bankrupt"I believe he has good intentions and tries to get another big vtuber signed up to his clipper platform
>>115507531The 6th stage: schizo.
>>115508762With the added benefit that he would essentially be targeting a bunch of Filian's large and recently abandoned fanbase towards the new streamer through the clip channels that they're already subbed to... I can see it.
>>115494464It's true until proven false.
>>115501861I will hold out until the 1 year mark. And if there's still nothing... Then GG I guess
Filian.... please.... I.. need... to cum.
>>115494464no, she just stopped streaming, stopped using social media, deleted all of her content, and has shown zero signs of life, to the point none of her friends and acquaintances know where she is or what she's doing, she'll be back in about 2 weeks.
>>115509034didn't the wall thing collect a bunch of emails?
At least one of her "friends" know where she is.
>>115507682Nah, Swiika is just so chopped that when he asked Filian out on a date she had to retire or rebrand as Manta.
>>115513199Neuro
>>115513495>the response she was most comfortable with was ghosting everyone for a yearSwiiika fucked up
Coming back to an old theory where Filian planned with like a month of hiatus, for which she set up the ARG.Then she realized that the 3rd new model doesn't look all that good/she promised way too much for her future content/she is still just out of any new ideas, so she gradually lost interest in streaming and bowed out.But she didn't have the guts to tell her crew that so they desperately kept the marketing machine running, which led to it becoming more and more ridiculous.
>>115508186the clippers are employeesHe's just trying to keep them and redirect them to the next vtuberThe money to pay them was likely company money that was not going in anyone's pocket. It's cheaper to pay "contractors" as a business expanse than pay taxes on large amounts. But that kind of stuff -budgeting, accounting, taxes etc- gets updated every quarter, or every year at least.Likely this is all mostly a budgeting question
Kaniki here. Hope Fillian comes back to you, buds. I know it's rough
>>115502106probably rachel
>>115516525she's the avoidant type so this is within the top 4 theories for methe other three are1) Pregnancy. A very common life event among women.2) She's actually preparing something3) Accident. Anyone can just randomly get in a car accident.
>>115516035neuro always knows
>>115516525With someone as ADHD as her, I actually do think there's merit to her getting bored of VTubing. It'd be a sad and unfun ending to a notable VTubing career without any type of graduation, but it happens. But there really is no way of knowing. She very well may have gotten pregnant. Or she started a career in high-quality MoCap and is doing AAA video games now. We'll only find out if she posts a letter on socials after however long, or she appears in a vtuber documentary retrospective in ten years.
c'mon guys, you can't spin exactly same copium theories forever. come up with something new
>>115519031Do I look like a dancing monkey to you?
>>115518751She doesn't have ADHD, it's just a bit...
>>115407282Waiting for Squadron 42 to release so she can fully test her VR rig.
She's training in tibet to be unbaitable. Once nothing is able to ragebait her, and no chatter able to trick her she will return to us.
>>115519542ye
To be clear, we now have official confirmation that she's not in contact with and is not contactable by even her closest friends and employees?
>>115518751>Or she started a career in high-quality MoCapI doubt it
>>115521105we've known for a long time that she's not in contact with usand it's been fairly obvious that she hasn't been in touch with anyone - even if they haven't made an outright statement literally saying the words "we have not heard from filian"
if she doesn't show up in EN5 i'd assume that she's quit for good
>>115497080No, there was som stuff that was addressed. Swiika mentioned that the trademark thing is BS and not the reason since they could sell merch anyway. But he also mentioned that he doubt Filian wil come back before they have fixed the clipper thing, so another half a year at least until she returns. But now it isn't her fault but Swiika's.
>>115499854>>115501213Yes, I saw a Tectone video a few days back where he talks about how Vtubers will collaborate with each other even if they are not friends and how it doom piled him. Considering how Layna has been trashing on her and how they unfriended each other in Twitch a couple of months before the debut, it really could be something like that. In other words, Layna and some other people like Bao and Shylilly could be the reason why there is no Fillystream.>>115501979>he says hes doing everything on his own initiative since filian is missingWhere does he say this? I listened through the whole video and heard nothing like that. If this is the case, though, it raises the question of what was created by Swiika and what was not. The wall and the signals was created by him and Team Filian, but what about the whole fake ARG? It was found because of a video she had in her stream so that part was approved of by her. Swiika is likely the person that privated all her videos too, but what about stuff like the black-index site and the minecraft server?
>>115523141good to know- I don't see how it's swiika's fault though. He mentioned his doubt in the sense that he thinks they will be done before filian come back, not that filian will come back when they're done. What did you mean?
>>115508186>Swiika has a new super fancy "please hire me" websiteHe has what now? Where?>If he truly has no information about herThis part make no sense at all. Considering how much money he has been handling for her, I can't see any reality where he doesn't know her real name or knows who she is irl. Unlike people that she was just collaborating with or were low level grunts, if she suddenly ghosted him he would have other means to still get in contact with her. If she still refused to even tell him she was burned out and needed a longer break, at somepoint he should have logically told her that he would have to ask the clippers to stop clipping and shut down everything. Maybe he did do this, but his interactions with the ARG company paints different picture since these guys mentions in their social profiles that they are working for her. One of them was even mentioned in her trademark stuff. This is why there are things that just don't add up. If the company had never been found I'd agree that Filian had probably just ran away and that Swiika had been ghosted, but the company just make this seem unlikely. Only other possibility here is that the people working at that company are Filian's irl friends and they are helping her out even when she is on mother's leave or burned out.
https://swiiika.com/#mentorshiphttps://loopd.live>I founded LOOPD to turn interested fans into skilled clippers—and build communities that help creators and brands reach new audiences.
>>115513495she had to retire or rebrand as Manta.People joke about this, and other treat it as if it is lunacy, but we really have no concrete proof that she isn't Filian and more than circumstantial evidence that she is.* No stream older than 2 years can be found of Manta anywhere, not even a clip.* There is a stream where she was streaming when Filian did, but this stream was a marathon. Unless we have that stream and can show that it wasn't a sleeping away screen or something during the period when Filian was streaming, we can't say that she wasn't just pulling a Moussy.* hand gestures are the same as Filian's* Voice is the same as Filian's whenever she breaks that fake accent* She is good at hard videogames, something we know that Filian was irl but enjoyed pretending she wasn't on stream since it was part of her whole schtick to fail at stuff.* Manta makes sure to show us that she has no physical skills, but then when she pretend collapses or hurriedly gets up on her feet, she shows us that this is BS.*Manta suggests that she can't dance, but you can tell that she does have rythm and it looks more like she is holding back and pretending that she can't move around.
>>115523593>Creators>MizkifThe fudge?
You're all wrong. The reality is that Filian HAS AIDS. Quite possibly cancer aids.
The result of "Who's going to come out of dead vtuber storage last?" wasn't fun.
>>115523593>https://swiiika.com/#mentorshipLooks more like he is trying to change his own job and build on Filian's platform. He is trying to scam more clippers into his pyramid scheme knowing fully well how the streaming market is not only hemoraging money.His site was registered on 2026-09-20, which is five days after The W4ll was closed down.>https://loopd.liveThis site is much older. Existed at least as early as 2024.
detective anon, focus on finding filian instead of her leeches
>>115518479>4 theories>posts 3
>>115524010Anon, the fourth theory was the one I was answering to...
>>115498661>https://youtube.com/shorts/Xy2Sx97D0pUSince you seem to have access, can you share some other meetings? Ones that happened during 2026 and maybe right after 8th December 2025? It would be interesting to listen to what was being said during the whole year since .
>>115524067They never say anything interested, sorry I'm too lazy to pull themIt's easy to have access, you just need to create a fake account, put the bot code verification in your description and you're good to go
>>115518479>1) Pregnancy.This one is my top contender, but with a twist. It wasn't an accident but it was a planned pregnancy. She was 24-25 at the time, which is when a woman starts to reach the age when it is lat to have children. So if she wants to have any in her life she needs to start on it now. But since she is using a 3d model and moves around a lot, unless she plans to reveal to people that she got pretgnant, the only time to keep it under wraps would be now. So she took a hiatus planning to start a family. She could have become pregnant a few weeks before it started, or she could have started working in it during the hiatus. There were four posts on her Youtube channel that all sugested that she was having sex.If she started working in it during the hiatus it could also explain why it is longer than 9 months since getting pregnant can be difficult.If she isn't using this hiatus to get pregnant and give birth, then we have at most maybe 2-3 more years of streaming since the periood of starting having chldren isn't that big.
>>115523593kek he got the cover presentation
>>115498661Uh-Oh. Seems like Swiika cauhght wind and now he is purging.
>>115524560>2024
>>115524147gotta say that the meeting that you did post wound up pretty interesting despite you saying that you didnt remember it being that way though>>115524560good on you for going through all the steps, if you do. would like to see some of those other meetings, mainly the ones around december. i noped out once i got to the account linking shit. i never sign in to anything though and not gonna start now>>115524621oh shit
>>115524147>It's easy to have access, Not that easy>you just need to create a fake accountEasy>put the bot code verification in your descriptionskipped a few steps there, buddy. How do you get the bot verification unless you actually start uploading clips? So you actually have to follow all the steps and download everything before having a chance at this. This would at least take a couple of hours. So it isn't as easy as just clicking on join.
>>115524621works on my machine
So I guess this is a thing.https://x.com/FilianHistorian/status/2092312673794883825Do we know of any other channels or sites Filian did anything on?
>>115524915
it's just like when marty's hand starts disappearing in back to the future... or that guy in looper who starts losing his body parts while he's running away
>>115525033>>115524621Is Twitchmetrics connected to Twitch? I was thinking that maybe it is just mirroring what is happening over Twitch itself? But I checked the other site and it still has it's icons. So maybe the Twitch tracker autoremoved them because Filian hasn't been active for alost a year?
Manta is streaming. You can clearly hear that she is Filian. She did a sigh and murmured a bit, breaking her fake accent and yes, it was Filian's voice.
>>115525276i think you need to get your ears checked, anon
>>115524621this is the most retarded thing since you can just go to filian's channel on twitch and see that the emotes are stil lthere
>>115525305No, just listen to it while not watching her on screen. You can only recognize her voice every time she breaks her accent. As an example when she says go uuuup, she slightly breaks the accent and you can hear it in the uuuuup.
>>115525347i think you need to get your ears checked, anon
>>115525109There isn't even dust left.
>>115525347>>115523640Manta being Filian does fit what she was saying before about her debute. When talking about her debute, Filian mentions that nobody has ever doneanything like what she plans, before, then changes her mind and says "Well it will definatelly be the last".So if we accept that Manta is Filian, this would be similar to how say Saba had her Saya account before she became Gura and still had it.So Filian could have gotten the Manta account from and older cousin and had the account for years, and started streaming now. This way she has actually shown us on stream her new ordered model so we know what it will look like, but we don't know that it is Filian. Meanwhile she has redebuted but we don't know it, and instead her return stream will just be a big reveal. Maybe on the Manta account or on the Filian account.This would also somewhat excuse her failed viral campaigns since in reality she was rebuilidng her platform with the Manta account.
>>115523327>The wall and the signals was created by him and Team Filian, but what about the whole fake ARG? It was found because of a video she had in her stream so that part was approved of by her. Swiika is likely the person that privated all her videos too, but what about stuff like the black-index site and the minecraft server?He explicitly says towards the end that he doesn't have anything to do with the debut and ARG stuff, then agrees with a comment from chat that he's just an editor so it's not really anything to do with him. Of course he could always by lying, but with the general tone and everything else he said in that stream, I believe it.
I can't tell if the Filian = Manta stuff is just a bit, or if people are genuinely that retarded?
>>115525716He is an editor, but his name was found in the blackfile-index sites coding and there are also photos of him hanging out with the ARG company. So at the very least he should have more involvement than just the w4ll
>>115525822it's a bit by retarded retards
with filian officially gone it's time to look for somebody else to watch. Other vtubers aren't as entertaining to me so back to the depths of youtube to find some interesting channels
>>115525822100% a bit. Manta was already a streamer before Fillian, and they streamed at the same time multiple times while Fillian was still active.
>>115525890ive actually completely dropped vtubers desu ive been watching northernlion for a few months nowi used to bake these threads but i seriously think im gonna leave for good now, 4chin includedbye
>>115525890I've been through a few, but the two I've really found myself feeling the urge to oshi are:Berry - 3D, physically active in streams rather than those 3d chuubas that just sit around, high energy, funYuy - Different vibe to Filian in that she's 2d, soft spoken, girly etc, but absolutely loves playing the role of getting bullied by chat. Great collab group with Aquwa and Lina too.
