EN5

>>115425884
you think Miori is in EN5? on what basis?

>>115425884
EN doesn't technically exist after the merger though so I dunno what you'dd call it

>>115426300
The 5th unit that has English as their main language

>>115421161
stop being annoying and just go watch her on her new account like the rest

>apologizing to Mio
lol she is the one that owes apologies, but she is too much of an entitled bitch to admit that.

>>115430191
Grow a spine.

I'm sorry to my oshi. Even though I jerk off to you every day, I still feel like it isn't enough. I am not strong enough for you my oshi

>>115421161
Well, I also have to apologize to Mio for having said a lot (and I do mean a lot) of tactless stuff that pissed her off. She was way more patient than anyone else would have been.
Also I get the impression just my general personality seemed a bit abrasive to her and I absolutely hate myself for having been unable to help her in her hour of need. She was the kindest person I've ever known and it just sucks that no one could help her when she was suffering so much. At least she seems like she's doing better so I've no doubt she'll work things out with time. She's just that good. also I don't know if you're aware but there is someone who sounds just like her in a KR microcorpo who will go full EN in 2027 and she didn't totally close the idea of returning from hiatus so you don't need to feel too guilty
But yeah sorry that we failed you Mio, and specially sorry that I caused you so much suffering. I'm really sorry.
One thing I guess I should say OP is that its also kinda "on" Mio for taking stupid shit online too seriously but honestly it seems like a lot of people do that. I dunno if it came about with the advent of social media or what. Like you gotta admit there is something almost comedic that something so fucking stupid ends up affecting someone that even Holos look up to. It's just absurd.
>>115425884
Doubtful, but not completely impossible I guess.

>>115431259
>Doubtful, but not completely impossible I guess.
holy fuck how blind are you can you not do even the slightest reps we dont need this mio loop again just take a spoonfeed
https://www.youtube.com/@AmorettoDemon

>>115421161
Miori kept in contact with her whales for months after graduating and doing exclusive content for them. Then she reincarnated as some 2views korean idol vtuber that only does korean streams even though the few viewers she has are the same old Eop fans that follow her everywhere... Such an ungrateful bitch.

>>115431832
I know about Retto I just tried to tell him she isn't going to Holo in a nice way but it might have been too indirect sorry.
>>115432358
>Miori
The worst part is that is the THIRD thing in your post that screams tourist.

I should have bullied Clara and her deranged troomies more. Sorry.

>>115432358
>Miori kept in contact with her whales for months after graduating and doing exclusive content for them.
schizo

>>115432788
If you care about Phase's reputation I would ask you not to do it.

>>115434413
Doubt he does, phasechuds don't really care about the reputation of their so-called oshi or her company as they're just things to justify their actions and they'd find something else to attach to and drag into the shitty muck

>>115421161
No

>>115430191
There were a bunch of things that she herself made which were not great or mistakes but they were the sincere missteps of a girl with severe mental health issues and nothing calculated or malicious. Most Honeymeads are aware she isn't flawless but it was difficult to talk about that stuff because you tended to get lumped into one of two internet battle groups: a "simp" that defends anything his lady does or say (many greynames said stuff like that in some of the pre-hiatus streams) or an incel asshole who thinks women having the right to vote is already a sin deserving of being stoned. Modern internet doesn't really do a lot of nuance so obviously most people preferred to just not say anything.
It doesn't help that a lot of people who backseated or tried to help her tended to give her kinda useless advice, nor she was extremely dismissive of any advice or help that other peeps online wanted to give her (partly cuz she thinks she didn't deserve it, previous bad experiences, etc.). It wouldn't surprise me if she thought there was no one she could confide in despite having 3 people that would call her their best friend. You've no idea how much the abuse made her mentally self-flagellate. Also because she was in so much pain she couldn't always see how the way she hurt herself or listened to antis so much hurt her own fans really badly. She did try her best to comfort them but sometimes when like she started speaking only KR and some schizos used that to peddle the rrat she hated her fans it would have been nice if she had been faster to say some clarification instead of just leaving the mic for bad actors. But yeah she's not a saint or a bitch or a girlfriend or some manipulator or anything. Just a really smart girl with a lot of psychological baggage but a heart of gold.

>>115439121
>nor she was extremely dismissive
*nor did it help that she was extremely dismissive

>>115434413
I don't and neither do troomies.

She nuked her channel because she missed a concert lmao no sympathy from me

>>115425884
She's a 2view Korean vtuber now

>>115439712
Have you ever stopped to reflect that the events you watch happen might have a deeper root cause than the phenomena you directly observe? Do you see someone having road rage and assume they were in a normal state of mind hours earlier?

>>115426231
Bae nepo hire. It'd be a really bad idea, but it still has basis.

>>115421161
>it was precisely because of online comments about her over the years
Like what? I thought it was the logical conclusion of her menheraing the fuck out over missing a Witcher concert.

>>115439739
>>115425884
>>115426231
>>115426300
She's 'amoretto/etto' now and streams for 10 koreans and 80 americans who pretend to be korean.

>>115439873
Hmmm
I'm not being rethorical, I'm being genuinely curious. Do you use words like foid or feel strongly about the 19th Amendment?

>>115439121
Mio is one of those chicks who inexplicably has massive parasocial whales willing to sell their kidney to keep donating 50000 bucks to her donothons, and actively dislikes them like Shondo and other types of those girls. It's actually pretty funny- people who part with their entire bank account always end up doing it for the worst possible women.

>>115439920
No? What the fuck does that have to do with what I asked?

>>115439923
She openly offered full refunds to all the donators both longtime and donothon (btw many donothon donors donated only to get the reward or look good then claimed back their money supposedly) and one of her most heartfelt requests as Mio was for her fans to live their life and not make the mistake she did of making being her whole life online. Shondo seemed genuinely sweet on the streams I've seen and she is the one taking care of her family.
I know you want to think that all women are heartless stacies who try to manipulate men at every opportunity (and frankly you're not wrong with a few) but Mio has a long history of being far far kinder and giving to her audience than most other entertainers. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the crazier shit you hear about Shondo is exagerated.

>>115439964
I'll be honest I thought you were the kind to hyuck hyuck about hysterical women being dumb ignoring the deeper issues that led to that crashout. No one who even casually watched her thinks the Witcher concert was the main reason, and they know why it was such a huge deal for her at the time.

>>115440049
Well get off your cross. The only things I know about her are being Bae's friend and her menhera sperg outs like pretty much everyone outside of r/lig/.

>>115439893
what was the fucking point of her graduation

>>115440017
>crazier shit
she blatantly got 100k from her donothon and then said she didn't like parasocialism or gfe and only did it because she needed money. She is just out in the open telling you she's a grifter who dislikes what she does. People should not give money to women who hate them like that. This is not exaggeration, schizophrenia or anti-ing, this is what happened and how she reacted to it.

>>115440092
Attention.

>>115440091
>The only things I know about her are being Bae's friend and her menhera sperg outs
Yeah maybe thats the problem

>>115440104
>People should not give money to women who hate them like that.
This just makes it sound like you want to push some culture war shit. Her feelings on GFE are more nuanced than what fits into the public discourse. I don't wanna be mean but a lot of your post seems like the typical "women bad" election tourist drivel.

>>115440129
Being friends with Bae and multiple public meltdowns is a huge problem, yes. Both reasons I have zero interest in her.

>>115440160
>Her feelings on GFE are more nuanced than what fits into the public discourse.
Does she pander to lonely men for money or not?

>>115440178
>a huge problem
To who? Why is her being friends with Bae a problem? To clarify I don't think you are ill intentioned or anything, this is something that I heard a few times and as a non-Holo watcher its just baffling to me. Never have I seen someone having a personal crisis and thought less of that person so I just don't get it.

>>115440215
No amount of lawyer weasel wording is going to change the fact she offered full refunds to everyone, was incredibly patient with a notably difficult fanbase, and went out of her way to diversify her income sources. She worked for Holo regularly and kept lowballing herself because she didn't believe in her own skills. Now she makes more money from investing than her 4 other jobs combined.
Are there women that take advantage of men's feelings? sure. But Mio isn't one and from what I can gather has never been one. If the EN scene hadn't been infested with politics bullshit we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I undersand and lament that reading some of this stuff makes her feel bad but I believe that arguing for what you believe and trying to understand others is a good thing. I kept my tongue quiet in the past out of respect for her and her feelings.

>>115440219
>why is a GFE baiter being friends with a male collaber a problem???????

>>115440439
Mio herself doesn't talk openly to male chuubas or figures, although she did so in the past and was openly friends with some (honestly that one podcast with her two friends was really nice).
That aside, don't you feel that disapproving of someone because they have a friend who talks to/collabs with males is a little... well, unreasonable? I mean if that's your preference thats your preference I just don't know if you'd have a lot of oshis being that picky.

>>115440092
>>115440120
I'd say the opposite as if she wanted attention, why would she quit her well known comfortably earning persona to go be a minnow in a Korean corp? She wanted to shake all the negative attention she was getting, hoping (in utter vain) that her harassers would go elsewhere

>>115440587
>she doesn't talk to males!!!!
>immediately says she's friends with and podcasts with males
lmao